From Crisis to Connection - with Geoff & Jody Steurer

Why do some people heal from betrayal and rebuild their lives, while others stay stuck in pain and resentment for years—or even decades? In this powerful episode, we speak with Dr. Debi Silber, founder of the Post Betrayal Transformation (PBT) Institute, about the three groundbreaking discoveries from her PhD research on betrayal.

Dr. Silber breaks down the specific symptoms of betrayal trauma, explains why time alone doesn’t heal i...

After betrayal, it’s common for women to turn inward, blaming their bodies and questioning their worth. In this important conversation, we talk with Dr. Lauren Barnes, therapist, researcher, and director of clinical training at BYU’s Marriage and Family Therapy program.

Dr. Barnes shares how her clinical and personal experiences led her to work with women struggling with body image and eating disorders. Together, we explore the conn...

When betrayal strikes a marriage, the pain is immediate for the couple—but what about the children? In this powerful and eye-opening episode, we speak with Morgan Ellsworth, a board-certified betrayal trauma coach and MFT student, who brings both personal and professional experience to this often-overlooked topic.

Morgan was a teenager when her family experienced betrayal, and she vulnerably shares what it was like to navigate that ...

What if the things you dislike most about yourself aren’t signs of failure—but invitations to heal? In this episode, I sit down with Haley Hinkle, associate marriage and family therapist and IFS-informed practitioner, to explore a compassionate and non-pathologizing way to understand the parts of us that act out, shut down, or sabotage.

We dive into the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model—a powerful therapeutic approach that helps u...

In this follow-up to our popular episode “What to Do When Your Partner Lacks Motivation,” we dive deeper into an important listener question: How do you tell the difference between a lack of motivation and a lack of ability in your partner?

At first glance, these two challenges can look the same—lack of movement, stalled growth, avoidance. But understanding what’s really happening changes everything. In this episode, we break down t...

Healing from betrayal trauma is a deeply personal journey, but why do some people seem to heal and move forward while others stay stuck? In today’s episode, we welcome back Dr. Jill Manning, a renowned therapist, researcher, and speaker with over 20 years of experience in betrayal trauma recovery.

Dr. Manning shares the key factors that help betrayed partners heal, as well as the common obstacles that slow down the recovery process....

Have you ever felt stuck, unmotivated, or unsure how to move forward—especially in your relationship? In this episode, we’re flipping the script from our last discussion on what to do when your partner is unmotivated and speaking directly to the partner who feels stuck.

If you’re struggling with motivation, feeling overwhelmed, or comparing yourself to your more driven spouse, this episode is for you. We share why feeling unmotivate...

When betrayal happens in a marriage, the emotional impact on a betrayed partner is overwhelming. But what about the children? How can a mother (or father) navigate their own healing while still being present for their children?

In this powerful episode, we’re joined by Dr. Jenet Erickson, an expert in family relationships and maternal mental health. She shares research-backed insights into the connection between mothers and children...

What happens when you’re motivated, driven, and actively working on personal growth—but your partner isn’t? In this episode, we explore the challenges of navigating a relationship when one partner struggles with motivation—whether due to personal crises, depression, or long-standing patterns of complacency.

We discuss why this imbalance happens, how gender differences may play a role, and what you can do when your partner isn’t taki...

In this episode, we explore the intersection of faith, mental health, and agency—how our ability to choose extends beyond simple decisions and impacts how we respond to betrayal, anxiety, depression, and life’s unexpected challenges.

Our guest, Brianna Holmes, joins us to discuss how agency is more than just free will—it’s deeply connected to truth, meaning, and the way we engage with our experiences. Whether you’re facing the emoti...

In today’s episode, we’re talking about something so many people ask—What if I’m bad at connection? What if I don’t know how to connect? If you’ve ever felt disconnected or unsure how to build meaningful relationships, you’re not alone. We’ll walk through the developmental roots of connection, how it’s learned, and what you can do if it wasn’t modeled for you growing up.

We’ll also explore what real connection looks like in relation...

One of the most common questions I hear from couples navigating betrayal recovery is, “Is it even possible for us to heal?” If you’ve ever wondered the same thing, you’re not alone. In today’s episode, I’m sharing the five key things I’ve seen every couple do when they successfully heal from betrayal.

I’ll also help you reimagine what healing actually looks like—not just surviving, but creating a relationship that feels safe, connec...

I was honored to be a guest on KayLee Dunn's "Navigating Betrayal" Podcast discussing: "Timing is Everything: When to Begin Rebuilding as a Couple After Betrayal".

If you’ve ever caught yourself checking your partner’s phone, feeling anxious when they’re late, or wondering if you’ll ever trust again, you’re not alone. In today’s episode, I’m diving into the four hidden fears that keep so many people stuck after betrayal—and, more importantly, how you can move past them.

These fears aren’t signs of weakness. They’re normal responses to an abnormal situation. I’ve seen these fears show up again ...

In this solo episode, I’m diving into three hidden barriers that can keep you stuck in the healing process after betrayal. Whether you’re the betrayed partner or the one working to rebuild trust, these common fears and beliefs can make it hard to move forward. I’ll walk you through why these barriers exist and share practical ways to navigate them so you can keep progressing in your healing journey.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode...

In this episode, I address one of the most common questions couples ask when healing from betrayal: “How long does it take?” I discuss the factors that influence the timeline for recovery and highlights the challenges couples face along the way. I also explain the importance of creating emotional safety, overcoming fears of relapse, and synchronizing individual and couple healing journeys.

I'm also excited to introduce my new pr...

In this episode, I discuss the common mistakes couples make during betrayal recovery and provide guidance on how to move forward with intention and clarity. 

I also share the inspiration behind my work and introduce you to my upcoming program, Courageous Together, designed to give couples a trauma-informed roadmap to rebuild trust and connection. Stay tuned for more information about this groundbreaking program!

Key Takeaways:

• Why...

The idea of “consent” can be difficult to teach to children, but in this episode our guest has been able to effectively describe body autonomy and help parents and children recognize the importance of personal agency and consent even at a very young age. We welcome Rachel Brian, author and animator, to discuss her children's book on consent, which teaches kids how to set boundaries and be helpful bystanders. Rachel shares the perso...

In this episode we continue our conversation about great listeners in our lives. Join us as we discuss how feeling truly seen by someone makes it easier to truly see others. These personal stories we share highlight the importance of genuine curiosity, engagement, and presence without seeking personal benefit in conversations.