October 10, 2025 • 29 mins
A bargain part that looks perfect, installs easily, and quietly destroys your engine months later—that’s the nightmare more drivers are waking up to. We dig into the growing wave of counterfeit auto parts sold online, from fake water pumps that toast head gaskets to sensors that never program and starters that die long before their time. As shop policies shift to protect both customers and reputations, we share how to source smarter, when to insist on OEM, and what “too good to be true” looks like in the real world.
From there, we widen the lens. A rapid-fire recall rundown spans multiple brands and real safety risks—corroding starter relays tied to fires, camera failures that erase visibility, and steering components that can detach. We talk through how to check your VIN, schedule fixes, and understand why these campaigns matter.
Then we have some fun with market surprises in “guess the sold price,” where a resto-mod ’69 Camaro brings big money, a clean ’82 Mustang tempts first-time buyers, and an unlikely Amphicar floats to a premium. The thread through it all is value—when it’s real, when it’s hype, and how to tell the difference.
We round out the ride with racing highlights and a compact tour through auto history, connecting today’s choices to yesterday’s milestones—from Henry Ford’s early credibility on the track to the Model T’s scale, the Chevy-Ford rivalry, Plymouth’s role in accessibility, and the elegance and exit of Duesenberg.
Along the way, we unpack tire buying the smart way: using trusted installers, reading codes, and understanding OE fitment without falling for counterfeits. If you care about reliability, safety, and the thrill of owning something that lasts, this conversation gives you the tools to buy better and drive with confidence. If you enjoyed it, subscribe, share with a friend who wrenches on weekends, and leave a quick review so more car lovers can find us.
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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Welcome to another In Wheel Time podcast.
(00:05):
Welcome to the award-winningIn-Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
I forgot to turn the page again.
It's all your fault.
No, it's not.
It's Mars' fault.
Isn't that right, Mr.
Be here, Mike?
Hey, absolutely.
Welcome to the award-winning cartalk show, In Wheel Time.
Make me call David.
(00:27):
Yeah.
We've always got that in ourback pocket.
We can call David and uh have agood time.
They'll maybe turn this around.
He's been texting, so yeah, he'sawake.
All right.
This is your all place, uh, yourplace for all things automotive.
Coming up, our story of theweek, recalls, guess the sold
car price.
That's all coming up.
Gonna have fun with that.
Mars has this week in autohistory.
(00:48):
Jeff has the racing calendar,and I'll get you caught up on
the stories making automotivenews headlines.
Howdy, along with Mike Out ofThis World, Mars, we always need
more Jeff Zeken, Chief Engineer,David Ainsley.
I don't know who I am.
I'm coming or going or doingsomething crazy that I shouldn't
be doing.
All right, it's what we call inwheel time.
(01:08):
And um, we're gonna start withour story of the week.
And for those of us that like toputter around in the garage on
our cars, where is this going?
SPEAKER_02 (01:20):
Putting around?
First thing he showed me thismorning, the guy I had to take a
tour of his garage.
He's all excited.
Did I really?
Yeah, he's all excited.
Why did I?
It's a nice garage.
He's got it all cleaned out, allis ready to go, and he's gonna
be.
Yeah, but he just moved in.
Yeah, he did.
It's been a couple of years.
Yeah, what you know, no.
There's nothing, there's no nono.
SPEAKER_03 (01:40):
We don't do that.
It's slick and lean.
That he is.
He's ready.
Here's our story of the week.
A failed water pump.
Now, this is a story fromAutomotive News that came down
the pike, and I'm going, hmm,who hasn't gone to the auto
parts store and bought a uh analternator and put it on
yourself?
Piece of cake.
Okay.
Or a water pump, whatever thecase may be.
(02:01):
So a failed water pump led to ablown head gasket in a Toyota
Prius wrecking the engine.
A spark plug melted and fellinto its cylinder, ruining the
engine of a Toyota Land Cruiser.
A starter in a Toyota Camrymalfunctioned after a year.
These situations may seemunrelated, but there's a common
link.
The failed parts were purchasedonline and billed as and looked
(02:24):
like genuine Toyota parts, butthey were counterfeit, according
to Ahmad Ibrahim, owner of thecar care nut automotive in
suburban Chicago.
Ibrahim came across counterfeitparts often that about two years
ago he required customers tosign a waiver if they wanted him
(02:45):
to use parts they bought online,relieving him of liability for
any ensuing issues.
In August, the Toyota masterdiagnostic technician went even
further, opting to no longerinstall parts purchased online
by customers.
He said, I started askingmyself, why are we doing this?
Most of our customers buy partsfrom us.
(03:08):
So why would we put ourreputation on the line for such
a small percentage of customers?
So the story continues.
Counterfeit auto parts aregrowing, uh problem nationwide.
The pandemic played a big rolebecause the millions of
consumers under uh stay-at-homeorders started shopping more
online, which makes it easierfor counterfeiters to do
(03:30):
business.
Uh, the council is a nonprofituh alliance of almost a dozen
North American automakersstriving to raise awareness and
combat counterfeit parts.
And uh it is called AutomotiveAnti-Counterfeiting Council.
How bad's the problem?
U.S.
Department of Transportation'sPipeline and Hazardous Materials
(03:50):
Safety Administration issued asafety advisory regarding the
rise of counterfeit auto partsacross the United States.
The biggest one was airbags.
People try to change out theirairbags.
(04:12):
And it is dangerous to do that.
SPEAKER_02 (04:13):
Yeah, very explode in your face.
I saw a technician have one fireoff on them.
SPEAKER_03 (04:19):
Well, the potential hazards associated with
counterfeit auto parts are farworse than an impossible to
program key fob, loss of vehicleperformance, or expensive
repairs.
Key fobs, number one on thecounterfeiters list.
Be careful what you buy online.
I'll tell you my online story,and that was with the Corvette.
(04:41):
If you remember, you helped meput in the emergency blinker
relay.
Yeah, we had to take the dashapart.
Had to take the dash apart toget to it because it's up
underneath the dash.
It was a counterfeit part.
I went and had to buy aChevrolet part, works fine since
then.
Uh another thing.
Well, we only did it once.
You had to do it again?
Temperature, no, the the the uhpressure sensor in in the
(05:05):
wheels, right?
SPEAKER_02 (05:09):
Yeah, you had that done.
SPEAKER_03 (05:10):
I had that done.
And you got your new tires.
No, I didn't.
And I had to go and buy somesensors because it kept popping
the notification on thedashboard.
Bought some sensors, it didn'twork.
Couldn't program it.
So I wanna wound up having topay double the price, and I
bought GMs and they work fine.
(05:31):
They last for 20 years.
Just spend the extra money andbuy the original parts from the
manufacturer.
I want to know how the sparkplug in the first part of the
story.
SPEAKER_04 (05:40):
Well, yeah, that's that sounded kind of strange.
Let me ask you, Jeff, from fromyour experience in the tire
world, I mean, you can buy tiresonline now and have them
shipped.
You can I you know, I to me thatI don't I can't imagine having
four tires shipped to my houseand then taking them to
somebody, Firestone or Jack theRipper down the street with the
(06:04):
used tire place to have themmounted.
SPEAKER_02 (06:07):
Well, you can all if you do it online, you can use
that end user, that like adiscount or uh you know Bob's
tire shop or whatever as thedelivery point, as the place
that accepted.
And then you go in there and youtell them, hey, I'm gonna buy
these tires, they're gonna comein three days, and I'm having
them sent to you, and I'm gonnacome in and you're gonna put
them on for me.
You can arrange all that.
Uh TPC numbers on tires are allfactory numbers.
(06:28):
Uh, you've got the born on datewe talk about all the time.
Right.
You you do have uh tires thatare OE fit for say a Ford GM or
a Stellantis vehicle, but areare can be purchased at a Costco
or a SAMS, but they're not theTPC number, they're not designed
specifically for that vehicle.
So there are you wouldn't Iwouldn't call them counterfeit,
(06:49):
I just call them uh out of agood, better, best are probably
a good scenario whereas you canbuy the the better or the best.
So there are things out there,not necessarily a scam, but be
careful.
SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
Use caution when you buy exactly car parts and try to
put them on yourself becauseyou're I don't know, you gotta
be careful.
Let out refuse.
Yeah.
Um time now for uh some of thecars that have been recalled.
God.
This should be a guessing game.
BMW has issued a major recallaffecting nearly 200,000
(07:20):
vehicles in the U.S.
due to a significant fire risk.
Um it it's it's not good.
They're advising you to parkyour vehicle outdoors from 2019
to 2022 vehicles.
Core issue lies with corrodingengine starter relay.
Here are the vehicles the Z4,2019 to 22 models now, BMW 330i,
(07:42):
the X3, the X4, the 530i, the430i, and the 230i.
Also includes the Toyota Supravehicles 20 to 22, which are
manufactured by BMW.
Kia recalling 39,000 U.S.
vehicles because of an issuewith the HVAC system that may
lead to overheating, increasingthe risk of fire.
(08:05):
Land Rover, Range Rover Evoke2023, rear view camera doesn't
display.
Driver and passenger window trimpieces may detach in the Jeep
Grand Wagone ear and wagonear.
High pressure fuel pump may leakand cause a fire.
Porsche Cayenne, Panamera, andPanamera E Hybrid, 24 to 26
model years.
Engine compartment fire, FordExpedition and Lincoln Navigator
(08:28):
for 2020.
All these are recalls.
Loss of steering control fromsteering column detachment.
Martha, hold this.
Hold this Ford F 250, 250 SD,350, 350 SD, 450 SD.
And the list goes on and on.
2020 to 2021.
I hear Fords recalling cars theyhaven't even made yet.
(08:50):
That well, they are.
Yes, they're on the list.
Preemptive recalls.
Yeah, preemptive.
All right.
Um, let's do uh the sold carroundup.
Shall we do that?
You got this, Michael?
And Mr.
Mars has this.
Uh I've been working with Mr.
Mars and trying to get this.
So um he can't participatebecause he now knows the prices,
but we're gonna start with thefirst car up a 1969 Chevrolet
(09:14):
Camaro.
Now, this is a resto mod,clearly.
Uh, that is not a factory paintjob.
But um, I will tell you thatthere's something rare about
this car.
What do you think that thatwould be uh that would affect
what the price you think it'sgoing to be that was sold for?
SPEAKER_02 (09:33):
I seem as owner or something.
SPEAKER_04 (09:35):
Aftermarket tires, wheels, the grill.
SPEAKER_03 (09:38):
I'm gonna go 32 on this one.
32.
Is anybody else online with us?
Uh Mr.
SPEAKER_04 (09:44):
Yeah.
Uh George is sitting here.
He's with us.
SPEAKER_03 (09:49):
$13999 for George.
Yeah, no doubt.
Um, uh well, let me just goahead and move through this.
So this is a 69 Chevy Camarosold for$79,800.
unknown (10:00):
Woof.
Woof.
SPEAKER_03 (10:01):
It's a little steep.
Okay, and what's the what's thereason it uh don't know.
Oh uh sold car price for the1967 Pontiac Catalina, our next
car up.
It's a convertible, it's huge,it's not gonna fit in the
garage.
And this car is yours if theprice is right.
27.
27?
That's probably high, but I'llgo 27.
Well, um, I'm uh I I will tellyou that um it's a convertible.
(10:26):
It's a convertible, and it'sreally nice.
Uh anybody else want to bid onthat?
Let me just tell you at 25725.
SPEAKER_02 (10:36):
I wasn't far off.
No, you weren't.
You did good.
Well, I did it with TTL.
SPEAKER_03 (10:40):
Oh, I see.
That's what I put over the top.
Here's one for Mr.
Mars.
I can see this in his driveway.
A 1956 DeSoto Adventurer.
56 DeSoto Adventurer.
What do you think that that'ssold for?
18.
18.
Let me just let me you mightwant to reconsider that.
(11:02):
Okay.
I think this is a this is a uhthis is not a resto mod, this is
a stocker, and I think that it'sall original.
Okay.
Now how much?
19.
19.
SPEAKER_04 (11:13):
Gotta remember that's a big heavy car, Jeff.
That could be a lot of scrapmetal there.
SPEAKER_02 (11:18):
Yeah, I'm I have no idea.
I'm just gonna stay with it.
All right, well, we're gonnasold for$41,475.
George is saying under 10 grand.
SPEAKER_03 (11:26):
Yeah, my my parents, I think that was the first car
that dad bought.
Oh, wow.
And not this particular one.
He bought a really ugly greenone back in.
And and that's pretty comparedto this gold.
Yeah, compared to this gold,that ugly green one with the
stoplight on the back trunk.
Oh, yeah.
That my mother was taught how toget out and get the starter to
(11:47):
work with a hammer and a bigstuff.
You go, Mom.
That George and I get a pool ofmoney to buy this.
Next car up a 1982 Ford Mustang.
82.
82.
Now, is that a fox body?
82?
I believe it is.
I believe it is.
82 Ford Mustang, black.
Um, it looks like it may be acobra or something.
(12:08):
Don't expect big horsepower outof it, but it looks super clean.
Uh and um, it may be somethingthat for I think would be
something to consider.
82.
I'm gonna go 14.
14.
SPEAKER_04 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah.
They're pretty popular.
SPEAKER_03 (12:22):
I know.
Do you remember how much it was,Mars?
SPEAKER_04 (12:25):
Uh, I can look.
No, I don't want you to look.
That's why I'm asking you.
No, I don't remember.
SPEAKER_03 (12:30):
Okay, so George says $15,999.
It sold George is spot on.
$16.8 is what it's sold for.
See, now that'd be a great carfor a kid going off to college.
Yeah, absolutely.
Looks good in the wholenine-year-old.
SPEAKER_04 (12:42):
Yeah, smoke the tires with the red lights and
everything.
SPEAKER_03 (12:45):
Stop.
Stop.
Uh, this one here, uh, this isfor you, Mike Mars.
A 19.
It's a green 59 Studebaker Lark.
It's a gold one, now a greenone.
Actually, this is more along thelines of George's car.
SPEAKER_04 (13:02):
Is that aftermarket wheels?
SPEAKER_03 (13:05):
Uh uh It looks like it's it looks like it's got some
Corvette wheels on it.
SPEAKER_02 (13:11):
I'm gonna go with George, I'm gonna go with$89.99.
Tudor hardtop.
Um I'm telling you.
$89.99.
SPEAKER_03 (13:19):
Earl Scheib painted that, didn't he?
Uh, it looks like it, yeah.
$59 Studebaker Lark.
It sold for$24,675.
Man, you must be reallydesperate for a car.
The color sold it.
SPEAKER_04 (13:31):
I can see me going up and down the drag in that,
man.
You talk about you get someattention.
SPEAKER_02 (13:35):
Uh-huh.
You'd call you a drag if you'rein there.
SPEAKER_03 (13:40):
A 1999 Chevy Silverado.
All right.
SPEAKER_04 (13:44):
Why are we not?
SPEAKER_03 (13:45):
Single cab.
And I I'm I I I'm drawn to that.
A 99 Chevy Silverado 1500.
Got some custom wheels on it.
Looks like a nice clean paintjob on it.
SPEAKER_04 (13:56):
But make the buttlers off of it, so it's nice
and light.
SPEAKER_03 (13:59):
It's not it's not a square body, so it's nothing
special, but it is special tothis person that was selling it.
Six grand.
Six really, yeah.
Okay.
Um anybody else, George, youwant to pipe in there and guess
a price?
Well, let me just say that itsold for 126.
(14:19):
Oh, and it's painted A M maroon.
Oh boy.
And that would be a great Georgeis under 10.
We're close, George.
Yep, absolutely.
Next up, uh Pontiac Ventura.
Now, if I'm not mistaken, thiswas a uh uh uh make-believe
Pontiac.
It was actually a Chevy Nova.
Yeah, and they tried to turnthem into GTOs, too.
SPEAKER_04 (14:40):
Yeah, they changed the little nose piece.
SPEAKER_03 (14:42):
It looks like yeah, that's about it.
So a 73 Pontiac Ventura.
Eight grand.
SPEAKER_02 (14:49):
Probably that's too high, but I'll go eight.
SPEAKER_04 (14:51):
Looks like it's got factory wheels and stuff on it.
SPEAKER_02 (14:54):
Now the stripings try to f uh a GTO clone.
SPEAKER_03 (14:57):
I I I think that that's all stock.
I think that that's the way itcame.
73 Pontiac Ventura sold for1470.
Oh wow.
Next up, too much.
This is for this is for DavidAinsley.
A 1964 Ampha Car.
AmphaCar.
(15:18):
Uh-huh.
Model 770.
I saw one of these cars upclose.
Have you ever looked at one ofthese, Mars?
SPEAKER_04 (15:24):
Not like that, but I've looked at an AmphaCar.
SPEAKER_03 (15:27):
There was one at the lupe uh function we did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's amazing that that thingactually floated at any point in
its career.
Did you see how it was made?
Yeah, it had a lot of caulkingin it.
Oh, yeah.
Uh-huh.
All the seams had caulking.
(15:47):
The 1964 Ampha Car model 770,there aren't many left anymore
because they've all rusted out.
Or sunk.
Sunk.
How much?
18.
18.
Well, no, you're wrong, sir.
It sold for drum roll please$56,700.
Oh.
(16:08):
Nay nay, as they say.
Unsinkable Molly Band.
And finally, you know what BMWstands for?
Yeah, British Motorworks.
No, it stands for Break MyWallet.
Exactly.
And here's one that will do it.
A 1975 BMW 2002.
Now, it's a 75 model year, butit is a BMW 2002.
SPEAKER_02 (16:37):
Yeah, so I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go 10,000.
10,000.
SPEAKER_03 (16:40):
Mars, do you want to guess?
SPEAKER_04 (16:42):
No, I was just remembering a guy had one here
in town, and we all thought, youknow, he we'd see his wife
driving it.
We thought, oh, this is so cool,you know, that's a real BMW.
And then we found out hecouldn't keep it running.
The reason she drove it isbecause it she didn't need it
very often.
SPEAKER_03 (16:58):
It sold for 16,275.
So for 16,275, there you go.
A problem on wheels for the restof your life.
SPEAKER_04 (17:07):
Take it with you.
SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
Exactly.
All right.
Um coming up, we have stuff.
Just ahead, Jeff's racingcalendar.
Mars has this week in autohistory, and I'll bring you some
auto news headlines.
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(19:16):
Thank you for that.
SPEAKER_02 (19:17):
Here we go.
NASCAR Craftsman Truck is uh yesthey ran yesterday, Charlotte.
They ran the Roval.
Uh I did not catch any of itbecause we were at a uh dinner
last night, so I did not see it.
Uh the Xfinity Boys.
Weren't you with that at thedinner with me?
Yeah, that's why I didn't seeit.
I didn't see much of anythingafter it either.
SPEAKER_03 (19:36):
Yeah, I woke up this morning, I think, with that same
feeling.
SPEAKER_02 (19:39):
Today you got Bank of America Roval, Charlotte, for
the Xfinity Boys, and then yougot the Cup Guys coming in
tomorrow.
Same thing, Charlotte Roval.
Uh it's a series playoff race,and that's on at 3 p.m.
and it's on the CW channel.
Uh, we got NHRA, the Texas NHRAFall Finals at the Motorplex are
going next week from the 9th tothe 12th.
(20:00):
So we'll be seeing them outthere.
IMSA is done, but I do have someother things.
I've got uh the sled dog racing,and then you've got sled dog
racing is coming up in December.
We're gonna have something onthat as well.
And then we've got the uh Adorodrunning is coming up in March of
next year.
Yeah, dinner od race.
Listen, I'm gonna be glued to mytelevision.
(20:22):
I think we need to send Mike outthere.
SPEAKER_03 (20:24):
He could ride one of the sleds, and and do this
remote broadcast.
Yeah, but he could be goingthrough Peterville.
Yeah, what did you say?
SPEAKER_02 (20:32):
Take the GoPro, you know?
Yeah, do that.
Yeah, it's it's it's sort oflike the Lilienthals.
You could be our version of theLilienthals, Mike.
A little cheaper version, yeah,a little cheaper version.
And then we got the SingaporeGrand Prix that was on this
morning, uh, F1 that was theMarina Bay Street Circuit in
Singapore City.
It's a 62 laper.
I don't know who won, and uhthat's about it.
(20:53):
Okay, Mr.
SPEAKER_03 (20:54):
Mars, it's all on you for this week in auto
history, sir.
SPEAKER_04 (20:59):
Yeah, a few things that we found that were rather
interesting this week.
Uh, in 1901, Henry Ford shockedthe racing world by defeating
Alexander Winton in a 10-laprace.
Now, this is before Henry Fordreally got into automotive
production.
He built a car by hand andcalled it the Sweepstakes.
Now, what this did was give himcredibility, street cred, built
(21:20):
his reputation, so he gotinvestors that actually helped
him start the Henry FordCompany, which was a precursor
to the Ford Motor Company.
Then in 1908, the Model T wasintroduced.
Now, this is the one that reallybecame the car that put America
on wheels.
It was built for the masses, itwas durable, affordable, and
easy to repair, priced at$850,which got cheaper as production
(21:45):
improved with the assembly line.
They built over 15 million unitsof this car by 1927.
Then in 1917, Chevrolet, not tobe outdone, introduces the
Series 490 Touring Car.
Now, this was aimed directly atcompeting with that Model T,
started out at$490, offered morefeatures for the money because
(22:06):
they already saw what Ford wasdoing, stepped it up with
electric lighting, and it wassomething that Ford charged
extra for.
This is where the rivalry fromFord and Chevrolet started and
continued through the Americancar market to today.
1928, the Chrysler Plymouthbrand was announced, and it was
started, it was designed to be alow-priced brand to compete with
(22:28):
that Ford and Chevrolet that isalready out there.
Now, they combined the Chryslerengineering, the reputation for
quality, and it immediately madethe Plymouth successful,
partially because of the pricingand the features it offered.
Sales took off and made Chryslerpart of the original Detroit Big
Three automakers.
Now, in 1935, this week,Deucemberg, the luxury
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automaker, ceased production.
They've been struggling becauseof finances, because of their
engineering and their elegance.
The things they put into the carthat made a Deucemberg the
ultimate status symbol cost alot of money.
And with the Great Depressioncoming in, they just really
couldn't sell them.
So they quit making them.
And one of the big things wasthe straight eight.
That's where they got all theirperformance, and that was a big
(23:12):
thing back then that thatstraight eight was out there.
1944.
Oh, excuse me, 1948.
Citroen, uh 2C V.
Here we go.
Here we go.
They revealed the 2C V.
How do you say it then?
Citron?
Citron?
Citrillin.
(23:34):
That's not the citron.
I'm going to take your word forit.
It was designed as a rugged,another affordable people's car
to carry farm goods over roughroads over in France and other
parts of the European world andbecame very popular.
And it actually remained inproduction until 1990, and they
built over 3.8 million.
(23:54):
And one of the things that Ithought was interesting is
actually an air-cooledfront-wheel drive setup, which
is, I think, is very unusualwith air cooling.
Now, in 1955, Ford introducesthe Thunderbird.
Now, this is what theyconsidered a personal luxury
car, but instead of being asporty car like the Chevrolet
(24:15):
Corvette, which you would thinkthat's who it's up against being
a two-seater, they emphasizedthe comfort as much as
performance.
Uh, and included a few upscalefeatures that they felt like set
it above the Corvette.
SPEAKER_03 (24:27):
I've never ever considered it anything other
than a competitor to theCorvette back in the day.
SPEAKER_04 (24:33):
Ask anybody, anybody I know would tell you the same
exact thing, but the way theirmarketing was set back then,
they were looking to make it alittle bit more than that.
Well, what did they know?
They haven't recalled it yet.
So I guess they knew something.
Day's not over.
1964.
Studebaker stops U.S.
production.
Now that's important.
(24:53):
U.S.
production, because they shutdown the historic South Bend,
Indiana plant, and uh they had alot of innovative designs, but
they could not compete againstthe Detroit Big Three.
Bad finances, declining sales,outdated models.
They stopped building them inthe United States in 1964.
However, they continued inCanada until 1966, and this is
(25:15):
the very last Studebaker built,although it was built in Canada,
but that is the last one.
SPEAKER_03 (25:22):
Never offended.
SPEAKER_04 (25:24):
No, 1997.
The last Plymouth Voyager wasbuilt in the U.S.
And it rolled off the assemblyline in St.
Louis.
I did not know they had anassembly plant in St.
Louis.
But this is uh really theturning point in the minivan
segment and Plymouth.
Although the Voyager wasintroduced in 1984, it started
all this, and but by the 1990s,minivan competition had really
(25:47):
gotten big.
Everybody was buildingsomething, and with the Voyager
being phased out because of slowsales, that it actually led to
Plymouth's eventualdiscontinuation in 2001.
And that's some of the things inautomotive history this week.
SPEAKER_03 (26:02):
Well, good.
That takes us right up to theend of the show.
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I forgot to turn the page again.
It's all your fault.
No, it's not.
It's Mars' fault.
Isn't that right, Mr.
Be here, Mike?
Hey, absolutely.
Welcome to the award-winning cartalk show, In Wheel Time.
Make me call David.
(00:27):
Yeah.
We've always got that in ourback pocket.
We can call David and uh have agood time.
They'll maybe turn this around.
He's been texting, so yeah, he'sawake.
All right.
This is your all place, uh, yourplace for all things automotive.
Coming up, our story of theweek, recalls, guess the sold
car price.
That's all coming up.
Gonna have fun with that.
Mars has this week in autohistory.
(00:48):
Jeff has the racing calendar,and I'll get you caught up on
the stories making automotivenews headlines.
Howdy, along with Mike Out ofThis World, Mars, we always need
more Jeff Zeken, Chief Engineer,David Ainsley.
I don't know who I am.
I'm coming or going or doingsomething crazy that I shouldn't
be doing.
All right, it's what we call inwheel time.
(01:08):
And um, we're gonna start withour story of the week.
And for those of us that like toputter around in the garage on
our cars, where is this going?
SPEAKER_02 (01:20):
Putting around?
First thing he showed me thismorning, the guy I had to take a
tour of his garage.
He's all excited.
Did I really?
Yeah, he's all excited.
Why did I?
It's a nice garage.
He's got it all cleaned out, allis ready to go, and he's gonna
be.
Yeah, but he just moved in.
Yeah, he did.
It's been a couple of years.
Yeah, what you know, no.
There's nothing, there's no nono.
SPEAKER_03 (01:40):
We don't do that.
It's slick and lean.
That he is.
He's ready.
Here's our story of the week.
A failed water pump.
Now, this is a story fromAutomotive News that came down
the pike, and I'm going, hmm,who hasn't gone to the auto
parts store and bought a uh analternator and put it on
yourself?
Piece of cake.
Okay.
Or a water pump, whatever thecase may be.
(02:01):
So a failed water pump led to ablown head gasket in a Toyota
Prius wrecking the engine.
A spark plug melted and fellinto its cylinder, ruining the
engine of a Toyota Land Cruiser.
A starter in a Toyota Camrymalfunctioned after a year.
These situations may seemunrelated, but there's a common
link.
The failed parts were purchasedonline and billed as and looked
(02:24):
like genuine Toyota parts, butthey were counterfeit, according
to Ahmad Ibrahim, owner of thecar care nut automotive in
suburban Chicago.
Ibrahim came across counterfeitparts often that about two years
ago he required customers tosign a waiver if they wanted him
(02:45):
to use parts they bought online,relieving him of liability for
any ensuing issues.
In August, the Toyota masterdiagnostic technician went even
further, opting to no longerinstall parts purchased online
by customers.
He said, I started askingmyself, why are we doing this?
Most of our customers buy partsfrom us.
(03:08):
So why would we put ourreputation on the line for such
a small percentage of customers?
So the story continues.
Counterfeit auto parts aregrowing, uh problem nationwide.
The pandemic played a big rolebecause the millions of
consumers under uh stay-at-homeorders started shopping more
online, which makes it easierfor counterfeiters to do
(03:30):
business.
Uh, the council is a nonprofituh alliance of almost a dozen
North American automakersstriving to raise awareness and
combat counterfeit parts.
And uh it is called AutomotiveAnti-Counterfeiting Council.
How bad's the problem?
U.S.
Department of Transportation'sPipeline and Hazardous Materials
(03:50):
Safety Administration issued asafety advisory regarding the
rise of counterfeit auto partsacross the United States.
The biggest one was airbags.
People try to change out theirairbags.
(04:12):
And it is dangerous to do that.
SPEAKER_02 (04:13):
Yeah, very explode in your face.
I saw a technician have one fireoff on them.
SPEAKER_03 (04:19):
Well, the potential hazards associated with
counterfeit auto parts are farworse than an impossible to
program key fob, loss of vehicleperformance, or expensive
repairs.
Key fobs, number one on thecounterfeiters list.
Be careful what you buy online.
I'll tell you my online story,and that was with the Corvette.
(04:41):
If you remember, you helped meput in the emergency blinker
relay.
Yeah, we had to take the dashapart.
Had to take the dash apart toget to it because it's up
underneath the dash.
It was a counterfeit part.
I went and had to buy aChevrolet part, works fine since
then.
Uh another thing.
Well, we only did it once.
You had to do it again?
Temperature, no, the the the uhpressure sensor in in the
(05:05):
wheels, right?
SPEAKER_02 (05:09):
Yeah, you had that done.
SPEAKER_03 (05:10):
I had that done.
And you got your new tires.
No, I didn't.
And I had to go and buy somesensors because it kept popping
the notification on thedashboard.
Bought some sensors, it didn'twork.
Couldn't program it.
So I wanna wound up having topay double the price, and I
bought GMs and they work fine.
(05:31):
They last for 20 years.
Just spend the extra money andbuy the original parts from the
manufacturer.
I want to know how the sparkplug in the first part of the
story.
SPEAKER_04 (05:40):
Well, yeah, that's that sounded kind of strange.
Let me ask you, Jeff, from fromyour experience in the tire
world, I mean, you can buy tiresonline now and have them
shipped.
You can I you know, I to me thatI don't I can't imagine having
four tires shipped to my houseand then taking them to
somebody, Firestone or Jack theRipper down the street with the
(06:04):
used tire place to have themmounted.
SPEAKER_02 (06:07):
Well, you can all if you do it online, you can use
that end user, that like adiscount or uh you know Bob's
tire shop or whatever as thedelivery point, as the place
that accepted.
And then you go in there and youtell them, hey, I'm gonna buy
these tires, they're gonna comein three days, and I'm having
them sent to you, and I'm gonnacome in and you're gonna put
them on for me.
You can arrange all that.
Uh TPC numbers on tires are allfactory numbers.
(06:28):
Uh, you've got the born on datewe talk about all the time.
Right.
You you do have uh tires thatare OE fit for say a Ford GM or
a Stellantis vehicle, but areare can be purchased at a Costco
or a SAMS, but they're not theTPC number, they're not designed
specifically for that vehicle.
So there are you wouldn't Iwouldn't call them counterfeit,
(06:49):
I just call them uh out of agood, better, best are probably
a good scenario whereas you canbuy the the better or the best.
So there are things out there,not necessarily a scam, but be
careful.
SPEAKER_03 (07:00):
Use caution when you buy exactly car parts and try to
put them on yourself becauseyou're I don't know, you gotta
be careful.
Let out refuse.
Yeah.
Um time now for uh some of thecars that have been recalled.
God.
This should be a guessing game.
BMW has issued a major recallaffecting nearly 200,000
(07:20):
vehicles in the U.S.
due to a significant fire risk.
Um it it's it's not good.
They're advising you to parkyour vehicle outdoors from 2019
to 2022 vehicles.
Core issue lies with corrodingengine starter relay.
Here are the vehicles the Z4,2019 to 22 models now, BMW 330i,
(07:42):
the X3, the X4, the 530i, the430i, and the 230i.
Also includes the Toyota Supravehicles 20 to 22, which are
manufactured by BMW.
Kia recalling 39,000 U.S.
vehicles because of an issuewith the HVAC system that may
lead to overheating, increasingthe risk of fire.
(08:05):
Land Rover, Range Rover Evoke2023, rear view camera doesn't
display.
Driver and passenger window trimpieces may detach in the Jeep
Grand Wagone ear and wagonear.
High pressure fuel pump may leakand cause a fire.
Porsche Cayenne, Panamera, andPanamera E Hybrid, 24 to 26
model years.
Engine compartment fire, FordExpedition and Lincoln Navigator
(08:28):
for 2020.
All these are recalls.
Loss of steering control fromsteering column detachment.
Martha, hold this.
Hold this Ford F 250, 250 SD,350, 350 SD, 450 SD.
And the list goes on and on.
2020 to 2021.
I hear Fords recalling cars theyhaven't even made yet.
(08:50):
That well, they are.
Yes, they're on the list.
Preemptive recalls.
Yeah, preemptive.
All right.
Um, let's do uh the sold carroundup.
Shall we do that?
You got this, Michael?
And Mr.
Mars has this.
Uh I've been working with Mr.
Mars and trying to get this.
So um he can't participatebecause he now knows the prices,
but we're gonna start with thefirst car up a 1969 Chevrolet
(09:14):
Camaro.
Now, this is a resto mod,clearly.
Uh, that is not a factory paintjob.
But um, I will tell you thatthere's something rare about
this car.
What do you think that thatwould be uh that would affect
what the price you think it'sgoing to be that was sold for?
SPEAKER_02 (09:33):
I seem as owner or something.
SPEAKER_04 (09:35):
Aftermarket tires, wheels, the grill.
SPEAKER_03 (09:38):
I'm gonna go 32 on this one.
32.
Is anybody else online with us?
Uh Mr.
SPEAKER_04 (09:44):
Yeah.
Uh George is sitting here.
He's with us.
SPEAKER_03 (09:49):
$13999 for George.
Yeah, no doubt.
Um, uh well, let me just goahead and move through this.
So this is a 69 Chevy Camarosold for$79,800.
unknown (10:00):
Woof.
Woof.
SPEAKER_03 (10:01):
It's a little steep.
Okay, and what's the what's thereason it uh don't know.
Oh uh sold car price for the1967 Pontiac Catalina, our next
car up.
It's a convertible, it's huge,it's not gonna fit in the
garage.
And this car is yours if theprice is right.
27.
27?
That's probably high, but I'llgo 27.
Well, um, I'm uh I I will tellyou that um it's a convertible.
(10:26):
It's a convertible, and it'sreally nice.
Uh anybody else want to bid onthat?
Let me just tell you at 25725.
SPEAKER_02 (10:36):
I wasn't far off.
No, you weren't.
You did good.
Well, I did it with TTL.
SPEAKER_03 (10:40):
Oh, I see.
That's what I put over the top.
Here's one for Mr.
Mars.
I can see this in his driveway.
A 1956 DeSoto Adventurer.
56 DeSoto Adventurer.
What do you think that that'ssold for?
18.
18.
Let me just let me you mightwant to reconsider that.
(11:02):
Okay.
I think this is a this is a uhthis is not a resto mod, this is
a stocker, and I think that it'sall original.
Okay.
Now how much?
19.
19.
SPEAKER_04 (11:13):
Gotta remember that's a big heavy car, Jeff.
That could be a lot of scrapmetal there.
SPEAKER_02 (11:18):
Yeah, I'm I have no idea.
I'm just gonna stay with it.
All right, well, we're gonnasold for$41,475.
George is saying under 10 grand.
SPEAKER_03 (11:26):
Yeah, my my parents, I think that was the first car
that dad bought.
Oh, wow.
And not this particular one.
He bought a really ugly greenone back in.
And and that's pretty comparedto this gold.
Yeah, compared to this gold,that ugly green one with the
stoplight on the back trunk.
Oh, yeah.
That my mother was taught how toget out and get the starter to
(11:47):
work with a hammer and a bigstuff.
You go, Mom.
That George and I get a pool ofmoney to buy this.
Next car up a 1982 Ford Mustang.
82.
82.
Now, is that a fox body?
82?
I believe it is.
I believe it is.
82 Ford Mustang, black.
Um, it looks like it may be acobra or something.
(12:08):
Don't expect big horsepower outof it, but it looks super clean.
Uh and um, it may be somethingthat for I think would be
something to consider.
82.
I'm gonna go 14.
14.
SPEAKER_04 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah.
They're pretty popular.
SPEAKER_03 (12:22):
I know.
Do you remember how much it was,Mars?
SPEAKER_04 (12:25):
Uh, I can look.
No, I don't want you to look.
That's why I'm asking you.
No, I don't remember.
SPEAKER_03 (12:30):
Okay, so George says $15,999.
It sold George is spot on.
$16.8 is what it's sold for.
See, now that'd be a great carfor a kid going off to college.
Yeah, absolutely.
Looks good in the wholenine-year-old.
SPEAKER_04 (12:42):
Yeah, smoke the tires with the red lights and
everything.
SPEAKER_03 (12:45):
Stop.
Stop.
Uh, this one here, uh, this isfor you, Mike Mars.
A 19.
It's a green 59 Studebaker Lark.
It's a gold one, now a greenone.
Actually, this is more along thelines of George's car.
SPEAKER_04 (13:02):
Is that aftermarket wheels?
SPEAKER_03 (13:05):
Uh uh It looks like it's it looks like it's got some
Corvette wheels on it.
SPEAKER_02 (13:11):
I'm gonna go with George, I'm gonna go with$89.99.
Tudor hardtop.
Um I'm telling you.
$89.99.
SPEAKER_03 (13:19):
Earl Scheib painted that, didn't he?
Uh, it looks like it, yeah.
$59 Studebaker Lark.
It sold for$24,675.
Man, you must be reallydesperate for a car.
The color sold it.
SPEAKER_04 (13:31):
I can see me going up and down the drag in that,
man.
You talk about you get someattention.
SPEAKER_02 (13:35):
Uh-huh.
You'd call you a drag if you'rein there.
SPEAKER_03 (13:40):
A 1999 Chevy Silverado.
All right.
SPEAKER_04 (13:44):
Why are we not?
SPEAKER_03 (13:45):
Single cab.
And I I'm I I I'm drawn to that.
A 99 Chevy Silverado 1500.
Got some custom wheels on it.
Looks like a nice clean paintjob on it.
SPEAKER_04 (13:56):
But make the buttlers off of it, so it's nice
and light.
SPEAKER_03 (13:59):
It's not it's not a square body, so it's nothing
special, but it is special tothis person that was selling it.
Six grand.
Six really, yeah.
Okay.
Um anybody else, George, youwant to pipe in there and guess
a price?
Well, let me just say that itsold for 126.
(14:19):
Oh, and it's painted A M maroon.
Oh boy.
And that would be a great Georgeis under 10.
We're close, George.
Yep, absolutely.
Next up, uh Pontiac Ventura.
Now, if I'm not mistaken, thiswas a uh uh uh make-believe
Pontiac.
It was actually a Chevy Nova.
Yeah, and they tried to turnthem into GTOs, too.
SPEAKER_04 (14:40):
Yeah, they changed the little nose piece.
SPEAKER_03 (14:42):
It looks like yeah, that's about it.
So a 73 Pontiac Ventura.
Eight grand.
SPEAKER_02 (14:49):
Probably that's too high, but I'll go eight.
SPEAKER_04 (14:51):
Looks like it's got factory wheels and stuff on it.
SPEAKER_02 (14:54):
Now the stripings try to f uh a GTO clone.
SPEAKER_03 (14:57):
I I I think that that's all stock.
I think that that's the way itcame.
73 Pontiac Ventura sold for1470.
Oh wow.
Next up, too much.
This is for this is for DavidAinsley.
A 1964 Ampha Car.
AmphaCar.
(15:18):
Uh-huh.
Model 770.
I saw one of these cars upclose.
Have you ever looked at one ofthese, Mars?
SPEAKER_04 (15:24):
Not like that, but I've looked at an AmphaCar.
SPEAKER_03 (15:27):
There was one at the lupe uh function we did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's amazing that that thingactually floated at any point in
its career.
Did you see how it was made?
Yeah, it had a lot of caulkingin it.
Oh, yeah.
Uh-huh.
All the seams had caulking.
(15:47):
The 1964 Ampha Car model 770,there aren't many left anymore
because they've all rusted out.
Or sunk.
Sunk.
How much?
18.
18.
Well, no, you're wrong, sir.
It sold for drum roll please$56,700.
Oh.
(16:08):
Nay nay, as they say.
Unsinkable Molly Band.
And finally, you know what BMWstands for?
Yeah, British Motorworks.
No, it stands for Break MyWallet.
Exactly.
And here's one that will do it.
A 1975 BMW 2002.
Now, it's a 75 model year, butit is a BMW 2002.
SPEAKER_02 (16:37):
Yeah, so I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go 10,000.
10,000.
SPEAKER_03 (16:40):
Mars, do you want to guess?
SPEAKER_04 (16:42):
No, I was just remembering a guy had one here
in town, and we all thought, youknow, he we'd see his wife
driving it.
We thought, oh, this is so cool,you know, that's a real BMW.
And then we found out hecouldn't keep it running.
The reason she drove it isbecause it she didn't need it
very often.
SPEAKER_03 (16:58):
It sold for 16,275.
So for 16,275, there you go.
A problem on wheels for the restof your life.
SPEAKER_04 (17:07):
Take it with you.
SPEAKER_03 (17:10):
Exactly.
All right.
Um coming up, we have stuff.
Just ahead, Jeff's racingcalendar.
Mars has this week in autohistory, and I'll bring you some
auto news headlines.
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Time now for Jeff's RacingCalendar, sponsored by the Texas
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Thank you for that.
SPEAKER_02 (19:17):
Here we go.
NASCAR Craftsman Truck is uh yesthey ran yesterday, Charlotte.
They ran the Roval.
Uh I did not catch any of itbecause we were at a uh dinner
last night, so I did not see it.
Uh the Xfinity Boys.
Weren't you with that at thedinner with me?
Yeah, that's why I didn't seeit.
I didn't see much of anythingafter it either.
SPEAKER_03 (19:36):
Yeah, I woke up this morning, I think, with that same
feeling.
SPEAKER_02 (19:39):
Today you got Bank of America Roval, Charlotte, for
the Xfinity Boys, and then yougot the Cup Guys coming in
tomorrow.
Same thing, Charlotte Roval.
Uh it's a series playoff race,and that's on at 3 p.m.
and it's on the CW channel.
Uh, we got NHRA, the Texas NHRAFall Finals at the Motorplex are
going next week from the 9th tothe 12th.
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So we'll be seeing them outthere.
IMSA is done, but I do have someother things.
I've got uh the sled dog racing,and then you've got sled dog
racing is coming up in December.
We're gonna have something onthat as well.
And then we've got the uh Adorodrunning is coming up in March of
next year.
Yeah, dinner od race.
Listen, I'm gonna be glued to mytelevision.
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I think we need to send Mike outthere.
SPEAKER_03 (20:24):
He could ride one of the sleds, and and do this
remote broadcast.
Yeah, but he could be goingthrough Peterville.
Yeah, what did you say?
SPEAKER_02 (20:32):
Take the GoPro, you know?
Yeah, do that.
Yeah, it's it's it's sort oflike the Lilienthals.
You could be our version of theLilienthals, Mike.
A little cheaper version, yeah,a little cheaper version.
And then we got the SingaporeGrand Prix that was on this
morning, uh, F1 that was theMarina Bay Street Circuit in
Singapore City.
It's a 62 laper.
I don't know who won, and uhthat's about it.
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Okay, Mr.
SPEAKER_03 (20:54):
Mars, it's all on you for this week in auto
history, sir.
SPEAKER_04 (20:59):
Yeah, a few things that we found that were rather
interesting this week.
Uh, in 1901, Henry Ford shockedthe racing world by defeating
Alexander Winton in a 10-laprace.
Now, this is before Henry Fordreally got into automotive
production.
He built a car by hand andcalled it the Sweepstakes.
Now, what this did was give himcredibility, street cred, built
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his reputation, so he gotinvestors that actually helped
him start the Henry FordCompany, which was a precursor
to the Ford Motor Company.
Then in 1908, the Model T wasintroduced.
Now, this is the one that reallybecame the car that put America
on wheels.
It was built for the masses, itwas durable, affordable, and
easy to repair, priced at$850,which got cheaper as production
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improved with the assembly line.
They built over 15 million unitsof this car by 1927.
Then in 1917, Chevrolet, not tobe outdone, introduces the
Series 490 Touring Car.
Now, this was aimed directly atcompeting with that Model T,
started out at$490, offered morefeatures for the money because
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they already saw what Ford wasdoing, stepped it up with
electric lighting, and it wassomething that Ford charged
extra for.
This is where the rivalry fromFord and Chevrolet started and
continued through the Americancar market to today.
1928, the Chrysler Plymouthbrand was announced, and it was
started, it was designed to be alow-priced brand to compete with
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that Ford and Chevrolet that isalready out there.
Now, they combined the Chryslerengineering, the reputation for
quality, and it immediately madethe Plymouth successful,
partially because of the pricingand the features it offered.
Sales took off and made Chryslerpart of the original Detroit Big
Three automakers.
Now, in 1935, this week,Deucemberg, the luxury
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automaker, ceased production.
They've been struggling becauseof finances, because of their
engineering and their elegance.
The things they put into the carthat made a Deucemberg the
ultimate status symbol cost alot of money.
And with the Great Depressioncoming in, they just really
couldn't sell them.
So they quit making them.
And one of the big things wasthe straight eight.
That's where they got all theirperformance, and that was a big
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thing back then that thatstraight eight was out there.
1944.
Oh, excuse me, 1948.
Citroen, uh 2C V.
Here we go.
Here we go.
They revealed the 2C V.
How do you say it then?
Citron?
Citron?
Citrillin.
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That's not the citron.
I'm going to take your word forit.
It was designed as a rugged,another affordable people's car
to carry farm goods over roughroads over in France and other
parts of the European world andbecame very popular.
And it actually remained inproduction until 1990, and they
built over 3.8 million.
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And one of the things that Ithought was interesting is
actually an air-cooledfront-wheel drive setup, which
is, I think, is very unusualwith air cooling.
Now, in 1955, Ford introducesthe Thunderbird.
Now, this is what theyconsidered a personal luxury
car, but instead of being asporty car like the Chevrolet
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Corvette, which you would thinkthat's who it's up against being
a two-seater, they emphasizedthe comfort as much as
performance.
Uh, and included a few upscalefeatures that they felt like set
it above the Corvette.
SPEAKER_03 (24:27):
I've never ever considered it anything other
than a competitor to theCorvette back in the day.
SPEAKER_04 (24:33):
Ask anybody, anybody I know would tell you the same
exact thing, but the way theirmarketing was set back then,
they were looking to make it alittle bit more than that.
Well, what did they know?
They haven't recalled it yet.
So I guess they knew something.
Day's not over.
1964.
Studebaker stops U.S.
production.
Now that's important.
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U.S.
production, because they shutdown the historic South Bend,
Indiana plant, and uh they had alot of innovative designs, but
they could not compete againstthe Detroit Big Three.
Bad finances, declining sales,outdated models.
They stopped building them inthe United States in 1964.
However, they continued inCanada until 1966, and this is
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the very last Studebaker built,although it was built in Canada,
but that is the last one.
SPEAKER_03 (25:22):
Never offended.
SPEAKER_04 (25:24):
No, 1997.
The last Plymouth Voyager wasbuilt in the U.S.
And it rolled off the assemblyline in St.
Louis.
I did not know they had anassembly plant in St.
Louis.
But this is uh really theturning point in the minivan
segment and Plymouth.
Although the Voyager wasintroduced in 1984, it started
all this, and but by the 1990s,minivan competition had really
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gotten big.
Everybody was buildingsomething, and with the Voyager
being phased out because of slowsales, that it actually led to
Plymouth's eventualdiscontinuation in 2001.
And that's some of the things inautomotive history this week.
SPEAKER_03 (26:02):
Well, good.
That takes us right up to theend of the show.
So um we're gonna take a quickbreak and we will wrap up
today's In-Wheel Time Car TalkShow right after this.
You've waited all summer andit's finally here, the Tailpipes
and Tacos Fall 25 Cruise In CarShow.
It's been a while, but thepopular Tailpipes and Tacos
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Cruise In returns to the LoopyTortilla Tex Max in Katy,
Saturday, October 18th.
Make any donation to Shirley'sKids and get a free breakfast
taco.
There'll be mimosas and bloodyMarys, too.
Get to the best cruise in of theyear.
Tail Pipes and Tacos Car Show,Saturday, October 18th, 8 to 11
a.m.
Cruise in, make a donation ofany amount, and grab a free
Loopy Tortilla breakfast taco.
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Tailpipes and Tacos only happensat the Loopy Tortilla Tex-Mex in
Katy, 703 West Grand Parkway atKingsland Boulevard, just south
of the Katy Freeway.
Join the Car Camaraderie, andyour car will automatically
compete for one of three chilipepper trophies at no charge.
Paul is here, and what betterway to celebrate than with a
free taco at Tailpipes and TacosCruise In Car Show.
Saturday, October 18th, 8 to 11a.m.
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It's the cruise-in you won'twant to miss Loopy Tortillas,
Tailpipes and Tacos in Katy.
SPEAKER_00 (27:13):
Time to fire up those engines and pay tribute to
the folks who make freedompossible.
Bastrofnown Heroes and Hot Rodsis rolling in for Veterans Day
weekend.
Friday night, downtown cruise.
Saturday, 400 of the coolestrods in Texas.
Proceeds help veterans,shelters, food pantries, and
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scholarships.
Sponsored by Craig's Jewelry,November 7th and 8th, Main
Street, Best Drop.
Don't miss it.
SPEAKER_03 (27:47):
I love it.
We could just we could hear thatover and over again.
SPEAKER_04 (27:52):
Maybe we should incorporate that into our bump
music.
SPEAKER_03 (27:55):
Maybe we should.
Hey, that's it for this week'sIn Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
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