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November 15, 2025 43 mins

Coach Bob Lovell kicks off the second hour of the show talking about the Indiana Hoosiers’ sluggish start vs Wisconsin with the IU Radio Network’s John Herrick. They overcame it in the second half by blowing out the Badgers 31-7. Herrick provides an amazing Fernando Mendoza stat and describes senior day at Memorial Stadium. Then, he gives an update on Hoosiers' hoops after the second week of play. Then, head coach of Hanover Matt Theobald calls in to talk about his team's rivalry win over Franklin and going up against his mentor in Franklin’s Mike Leonard. Kurt Darling of WMUN in Muncie talks about Ball State dropping their game to Eastern Michigan. Then coach Lovell and Brendan King give some background on the show. Rick Johnston of the ISC Sports Network had a busy day calling IU-Indy Volleyball and women’s basketball and calls in to recap both contests. To wrap up the hour, the TV play-by-play voice of the Indiana Pacers, Chris Denari, joins to reflect on the Pacers' loss to the Raptors Saturday night. Denari also gives an update on the injury report for Aaron Nesmith and Benedict Mathurin.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good evening, everybody, and welcome to Network Indiana's Indiana Sports
Talk on Bob Lovell. Glad you could join us tonight.
Lots of football to talk about. We'll also talk a
little bit of Pacers basketball right now, though very busy,
the busy day, so we need to catch up. The
star of our show's here. It's Network Indiana's Brendan King.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Coach. You're the best. Great to be with you and Caleb.
Let's get it rolling with the undefeated number two Indiana
Hoosiers who dismantled Wisconsin today thirty one to seven. Fernando
Mendoza continues to play like a Heisman candidate. How about
twenty two out of twenty four, two hundred and ninety
nine yards and four touchdown passes, and now back to

(00:41):
back weeks doing it without his top receiving threat, Elijah Sarrat,
the benefactor of sarat being out once again, Charlie Becker,
who in his last two weeks as twelve catches for
two hundred and twenty six yards, pulling down a touchdown
score Today.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Now the staff for Fernando looks has time throws it deep.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
To the antili He's got Becker tes.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
My Tony Thicker a game thirty one yard played, has
the first score of the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
There Don Fisher on the call after the game, Kurt
Signetti talking about the positives and I guess negatives to
this one, as he said.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
What I would say is we played good in the
second half as a team. In the first half we
looked stale, tired, and just lack spark. So I just
told everybody, take a deep breath, have fun, playing one
play at a time, enjoy themselves. That's what's worked for
me instead of going in there ripping them And I
like the way we played in the second half.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Indiana's on buy next week and then the Bucket game
Friday the twenty eighth at seven thirty that will be
in West Lafayette over to Notre Dame. The number nine
Irish continue to roll up those college football playoff rankings,
entering that number nine today thirty seven point fifteen. They
handle the Pitt Panthers. Pitt came in at number twenty

(02:02):
two in the nation. Notre Dames now eight and two
on the year. What a game for Malachi Field.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Second six car with another shot down.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Faield and he did it again.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Malachi Fields going up top.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Joe Tessitore on the call for ESPNCJ Carr with two
touchdown passes. He did throw two interceptions, but both touchdown
passes were two fields. Irish get Syracuse next week. Closing
the season at Stanford for ball State, not a positive
day for the Cards twenty four to nine. They lose
to Eastern Michigan and he had a State fell to

(02:39):
Youngstown State forty eight twenty nine. It was Valparaiso in
overtime edging Stetson thirty two thirty one, Valpo's first Pioneer
League win. And now over to the Monan Bell DePaul
over Wabash forty one twenty the final score that's four
straight Monan Bell wins now for DePaul. Can't discount though,

(03:01):
what we saw from Wabash wide receiver Luke Adams. He
had nine catches for one hundred and eighty nine yards.
FCS football Butler lost to San Diego twenty nine to seven.
In Division three and NAIA action, it was Indiana Wesleyan
over Sianna Heights forty seven to sixteen. Taylor crushed Madonna
seventy seven to thirty five. Saint Francis got it done

(03:23):
against Judson sixty three twenty Marianna shoutout went over San
Xavier forty five zip you Indy picked up the dub
against Upper Iowa twenty eight twenty one try and scoots
pass Kalamazoo twenty five twenty four, handover over Franklin fifty
one eighteen and Anderson gets by Manchester twenty six to twenty.
College basketball tough one for the Butler Bulldogs in Dallas,

(03:46):
losing to SMU eighty seven eighty five. A chance to
win it at the buzzer for Finley bisjack. Here's how
it sounded on the CW BIS jack.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Shia McCourt This jack for the wind su.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Haz on.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
SMU beating Butler after the Dogs handed SMU al last
year at Hinklefieldhouse. Other college hoops Perdue Fort Wayne Bleue
out Boyce College out of Kentucky one hundred and eighteen
to sixty eight, and it was Arkansas Little Rock over
ball State sixty eight sixty two. The Pacers lose to Toronto tonight,
one hundred and twenty nine to one hundred and eleven.

(04:24):
Pacers struggle first time in franchise history. They have lost
five consecutive games by fifteen points or more. Thanks to
the great Eddie Garrison for that nugget. I'm Brendan Kegan,
Network Indiana.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Welcome back everyone. This is Network Indiana's Indiana Sports Talk.
The number two Indiana Hoosiers beat Wisconsin today thirty one seven.
Another outstanding day for the Hoosiers. John Herrick from the
IU Sports Network joins me. John, another solid, business like
win for the Hoosiers.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
You're absolutely right, and it was an interesting start into
the game, as you probably noticed, and I think that
was a product of the fact that this team is
beat up. They don't have any I wouldn't say they
have any like they've had three guys that are out
for the season, but they've only had a couple injuries
that have kept up that have been nagging a little
bit lately. And it's just that time of the year

(05:20):
where they're just they're just fatigued, they're tired. Everybody's tired,
so they were kind of lethargic a little bit in
the first half. Coach Signetti. Signetti said as much in
his postgame press conference afterwards. But this team has always
been a second half team, and they've always found a
way to get stronger as the game goes on. And

(05:40):
in the second half, what you saw was an Indiana
football team that only allowed one Wisconsin first down in
the second half. They only they did not let Wisconsin
convert a single third down, and they held them to
twenty three total yards. And then of course they possessed
the heck out of the football and just didn't let
Wisconsin have the ball for very much because in the
first half, Wisconsin dominated time of possession and said and

(06:02):
Indiana said, okay, you want to try and play that game,
We'll play it right back at you. So, right what
a special day. I mean, eleven and zero for the
first time in program history, senior Day. The place was packed.
It was just there haven't been a whole lot of
days like that throughout the history of Indiana football, aside
from these last two years. So today was certainly one

(06:25):
for the books.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
You bring up a great point, I mean we and rightfully,
so we talk about the year that Mendoza's having in
now Charlie Becker has become a star overnight, and all
the good things that they're able to do offensively, but
they're not eleven and zero without the defensive effort, consistent
defensive effort they've had the entire year exactly.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
And as much as head coach Kurt Signette gets a
lot of the credit, he would be the first to
tell you that you've got to give a lot of
credit as well to his offensive coordinator Mike Shanahan and
to his defensive coordinator Brian Haynes. Haynes is called a
heck of a game every week out in all eleven
of these wins, and he faced some really tough offenses
to this point, including of course Oregon that's probably the

(07:10):
biggest one. But for the way that he has been
able to shut these teams down has been simply a
terrific and the endgame adjustments he makes are something else.
But you know, you're happy for a guy like Aidan Fisher.
You're happy for guys like Tyreek Tucker and Mario Landino
and D'Angelo Ponds in the secondary age. MARII sharp. I mean,
these guys are all just making plays and keeping guys

(07:33):
in front of them and not getting beat deep. And
it's really special to watch. This is one heck of
a football team.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
It is special to watch. And you know, this is
a game where I don't think anyone felt you didn't
get nervous. You felt like they were going to have
things were under control. And then, as you point out,
the explode in the second half, Mendoza has another Mendoza
like day. What twelve of twenty four four touchdowns one
hundred and ninety nine yards, Charlie Becker for two hundred

(08:03):
and twenty nine yards. This kid has been phenomenal lately.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Yeah, he has. And so today, actually, Bob, was the
third time this season that Fernando Mendoza threw more touchdowns
than he had incompletions in a single game, and the
third time that he's done that this year. So he
just continues to make a great Heisman case. And then, yeah,
Charlie Becker, think about this. Elijah Surat went through pregame

(08:29):
warm ups, he looked like he could possibly play right
that held him out. He's gonna be ready for the
Purdue game, you would think, unless there's some other unexpected
setback that happens. But he looks on track to return.
You're gonna get Surat back. You're gonna have Omar Cooper,
who was the hero last week. Then you're gonna have
Charlie Becker, who's you know, lining up in the slot.

(08:49):
He's kind of like a mini Alec Pierce, I would
call him. And then you got the two tight ends
hold the stays in Riley no Akowski, who caught touchdown
passes today, plus the really stellar run game that the
Hoosiers have. If you were an opposing defensive coordinator, I
don't know how you would want to look forward to
facing this team because you would have a lot of
sleepless nights getting ready for this offense.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I think if you if you face them, I mean,
your game plan has to be as Wisconsin did in
that first half, is control the football, move the chains,
and not let this high powered IU offense on the field.

Speaker 6 (09:24):
You're very right, Bob, You're absolutely right. The best defense
could be your own offense. Wisconstant that Michigan State did
a little bit of that, and UCLA tried it as well.
But Indiana knows that teams are going to be trying
to do that now. They've seen it several times and
they're ready for it. And you got such a great
veteran head coach and Kurt Signetti who said, you know,

(09:44):
I've been in these situations before, and I knew going
into the locker room, I wasn't going to yell at
these dudes. I wasn't going to give him any greats.
I was just going to go out there, stay within yourself,
breathe and have fun. And he knew how to take
the edge off of his team and that certainly paid
vivid into the second half.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
You got time to talk hoops after this up?

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Sure, I sure do, Bob, No problem, John.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Herrick and I will come back and talk about IU
basketball after I used football team had another impressive win
over Wisconsin today thirty one to seven in the final.
There score It update with Brendan King. This is Indiana
Sports Talk.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
What's going on? I'm Brendan King with this network Indiana
Scoreboard Update, HURON Indiana Sports Talk. Let's talk about the
Mona on Bell for a fourth consecutive year, DePaul wins
it this year by a final of forty one to twenty.
Topaun proves to nine to one Wabash. Still a very
good year for them. They're still eight and two, but
it was a twenty one points second quarter by DePaul

(10:48):
that really led them to the victory this afternoon, and
especially their quarterback Scott Bellentine. Also, for what it's worth,
the Bellantine Brothers. As Greg Reraikshaw was talking about earlier
Andrean alums. They won the twenty twenty one two way
state championship at Lucas Oil Stadium with Drake Bowen, who
of course is now a Notre Dame defensive captain. And

(11:11):
Drake Bowen helped the Irish beat Pittsburgh today thirty seven
to fifteen. Scott Ballentine quarterback that twenty twenty one Andrean
team today for De Paul who's twenty four to thirty five,
four touchdown passes, three hundred and twenty eight yards. But again,
don't discount what we saw from Wabash wide receiver Luke
Adams as good of a good of a day as
you can dream for being a wideout. Nine catches, one

(11:33):
hundred and eighty nine yards through the air series history.
Now that's the pause fifty ninth monon bell Win. Wabash
has sixty three. There have also been nine ties through
the year since the eighteen hundreds, including it was looking
at the stats earlier, a couple ties in a row.
All right, let's look at Perdue. That's the final game

(11:53):
of the night. Still going within involvement from the State
of Indiana right now. Not going well for the Boilers
forty two six. Washington on top of Purdue from out
west eight forty to go in the fourth quarter. Purdue
has struggled passing and rushing the ball. Also, Washington has
rushed for four touchdowns in the game. I'm Brendan King.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Welcome back everyone. John Herrick from the IU Sports Network
rejoins us IU football big win today, thirty one to
seven of Wisconsin basketball team in action tomorrow against Incarnate
word another chance for who's just to get a good
run here. Early on, the reports have been great. The enthusiasm,

(12:34):
understandably is high. You know the football high we're on now.
You look and see that, you know, basketball team having
fun moving the ball, shooting the ball well, defending people,
a lot of good things going on. You again, have
the best get going on right now, John, Yeah, you
definitely do.

Speaker 6 (12:51):
First of all, another thing that made it even more special.
How about those depat Tigers today.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
You know, Okay, go ahead, get it in. That's all right.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
I'd love to go back to a Monon Bell game
for once, but you know, I can't ever do it
now that I have this IU gig because they always
seem to play on the same day. But trust me,
Don Fisher and I certainly follow it from Afar Sou
and it was that's what a great day for the
state of Indiana to have that, to have that happen,

(13:22):
and of course to have our mutual friend Greg Reigstraw
on the call, how special is that? But you're right, Bob,
it is. It is a great time for IU Athletics.
Of course, not only is the football team really good,
the basketball teams off to a good start. The volleyball
team as well has twenty wins. I can't remember the
last time that's happened, but they're really starting to play

(13:43):
well too, So everything's really going well for Indiana Athletics.
The athletic director, Scott Dolson has done a phenomenal job
with managing the nil and the transfer portal and making
sure all the coaches have the resources they need to
build the rosters they need to be competitive. He deserves
a lot of credits. And on the basketball front, basketball front,

(14:03):
like you said, this team is really really humming right now.
Last year, last two years under Mike Woodson, I use
basketball team's coach would always be ranked very low in
the Ken Pom ranking. Not that the kin Pom ranking
means everything, but it's a big metric. Indiana basketball would
be in the low eighties well. So far through the

(14:24):
first three games, Indiana's kin Pom ranking is seventeenth. They
are twelfth best in ken Pom on the offensive side,
and they are thirty eighth best on the defensive side.
Quite frankly, I don't know how there are eleven teams
better than this team offensively right now. Their average team
close to one hundred points a game. For crime out loud,
I can't believe. I still can't believe they scored one

(14:45):
hundred against Marquette. Obviously, they're going to play an incarnate
Word team tomorrow that is certainly not going to have
the talent that Indiana has. They will struggle. What you're
looking for is for Indiana to continue to do what
they've been doing. Play fresher man de man defense, spread
the ball around, pass up good shots to get great shots,

(15:06):
emphasize the three point shot. Keep that going. They've been
fourteen out of twenty eight from three in each of
the last two games. So if they continue to play
with the kind of efficiency that we've seen them play
for the first three games tomorrow should go well, and
then everything should flow well into next week. The next
big game featuring a marquee opponent is Kansas State at home,

(15:27):
and then of course later on in the schedule you've
got Kentucky and Louisville. Those two teams have recently duked
it out and had a heck of a battle, So
lots of things to look forward to with this basketball team.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
John Herick from the I Use Sports Network Football team
with a big win basketball team in action tomorrow to
assembly all, John, Thanks have a great weekend, all right,
thank you, coach, Thank you college football today, the victory
bill stays in handover hanover beat Franklin fifty one to
eighteen with me hannover head coach Matt Theobald. Matt, thank

(16:02):
you for the call and congratulations on the win.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
Thanks Bob Man. It was a great I mean, when
it's seventy degrees in the middle of November, it's a
great day everywhere. So I didn't have to layer up today.
I've had to brought some of those with the victory
bell game. But yeah, it was a great atmosphere, great
crowd down at Alumni Stadium today and when we packed
him in and Franklin brought a great crowd, and it's

(16:27):
it was a you know, we don't always get the
press of the monon bell, but man, it was a
it was a great atmosphere today. Super excited to get,
you know, to compete against Mike Leonard. I mean, he's
kind of my mentor and I worked with him for
thirteen years and uh, great to see. Great to just
go against him back on the sideline.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
So uh yeah, yeah, I'm sure it can't be an
easy Yeah, it can't be an easy game for you.
I'm sorry to interrupt. It cannot be easy for you
going against Mike and the feelings you have for him
and how important he is to you and your family,
the friendship that you have, it has to be a
really difficult game.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
It's it's one of the toughest weeks of the year
for me, uh personally, just I mean I was at
that lace up North for thirteen years, and my kids
grew up there, and and Mike Leonard and Steve Rock
and some of the assistants I coached and coached with
and just great people. But you know that that's what
makes it. I love this game because you're out there

(17:27):
hugging your best friend before the game and say all right, man,
we're gonna go compete for sixty minutes. And and after
the game, you know, coming up giving each other hugs.
And I just told him I was so excited. He's
back where he needs to be coaching.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
That is why.

Speaker 7 (17:40):
And uh, I think our I think our wives are
probably way more nervous than we are. Uh they you know,
they get sir, But it's it's just it's a fun game.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (17:51):
Both teams competed really well today, and I think Mike's
got you know, he's got Franklin going in the right direction,
and and uh, you know it's it's both guys battle,
great pageantry, and we were just fortunate we came out
on top today. And the wind played a little bit
of havoc there in the first half, I think for
both teams, because it was you know, fourteen to twenty
nine hour gusts at times, and there's some crazy kickoffs

(18:15):
that looks like it's going going out of bounds, it
just sticks right in there. So there was some bad
field position early, and but you know, we came away.
Our offensive line did a great job and moved it
and protected Ian real well, I think he had a
you know, I think he threw for over three hundred
yards and was like twenty nine for thirty nine to
day and ran the ball for another fifty sixty yards.

(18:37):
And like I said, I thought our old line and
D line just did a great job of dominating and
it was a fun one to play in. So I
don't like playing against Mike Lennard, but man, I sure
do love right winning and keeping the victory bell and
seeing our guys big pictures and the victory bell is
going to be out around the campus tonight. I had

(19:00):
to remind him that, you know that we're in the Uh,
we had another game and we had to make sure
we're ready to roll on Sunday. So but they got
to enjoy this one for twenty four hours. That's that's
why they played the game. So, uh, it was a
fun one. But we you know, we had we had
some guys that performed really really well today. Uh Phoebe
Shelby again nine catches for one hundred yards and had

(19:21):
a couple other rushes for for forty yards and and
Seebee's just kind of been our big play guy. And
Jack Pennington, you know, it's great when you look in
the stat line and you got cut guys with six catches,
five catches, four catches, and Ian just does a great
job of really just spreading that ball around and uh,
fun to see those guys. We you know, we were
in the ball for over two hundred yards as well.

(19:43):
We had a freshman out of Alabama, josh Williams. He's
really kind of come on and you know, he got
that opportunity. We had a guy go down and Joshua
and for seventy seventy five yards today for a freshman
in his first bell game. That that was pretty exciting
for us. And to see him get two touchdowns and uh, again,
it's just great that our offensive line they really inflicted

(20:04):
their will today and and uh, we're very dominant on
the front two lines. And I gotta I gotta give
a shout out Cole Shotley's a freshman fumble recovery for
for a for a touchdown. We had two interceptions. So
the back end played really well and we I think
we did a great job of limiting their explosive plays
because you watch them on film. And again, I don't
sleep a whole lot during victory Bell week, just like

(20:26):
I'm sure Breton Breton, uh and Jake going as well,
but it's right, you know they're they're there. Their their
offense was they got a great quarterback there at Franklin
to build around, and he's got some weapons and we
were just trying to keep keep it all in front
of us, and we were fortunate enough to get our
hands on a couple a couple of passes and they
put one on the ground and we returned it for
a touchdown. So, uh, defense did a great job. Coach Ranking,

(20:48):
our decordinator, Coach Burton, Uh, you know, I love it
when we're running flee flickers and double reverse passes and
way I felt like came out. We're super aggressive today
as well, and those are the type of plays you
want to have in the in that victory bell and
uh So we'll take the win and we're gonna have
a selection show tomorrow four point thirty, little celebration and

(21:11):
see where they're gonna send us or maybe, you know,
maybe we get the host there if the NCAA is listening.
We love the host at at Alumni Stadium. I think
it's a great atmosphere to play football at. But we're
excited to get another week in football, So get to
work with these mad teams in this team.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
So Mattthew bald is the football coach at Panover. Hannover
beats Franklin fifty one to eighteen. Fourth straight year they
have retained the victory bell. Thanks to the call. I
appreciate all the effort for you and your kids, and
good luck tomorrow. I hope the selection committee does.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
The right thing that I as well, So I appreciate
everything you do for us.

Speaker 8 (21:51):
Bob, Thank care.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Having men, All right, thank you. Coming up, we're gonna
talk some more football on Indiana Sports Talk.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Hey, I'm Brendan King with this network. Indiana scoreboard update
here on Indiana Sports Talk Indiana is eleven and oh
and the number two Hoosiers roll over Wisconsin today thirty
one to seven. Fernando Mendoza twenty two out of twenty
four through four touchdowns two hundred and ninety nine yards.
That's also without his top receiving threat, Elijah Surat for

(22:23):
a second straight game. Charlie Becker the five grabs for
one hundred and eight yards and a touchdown his last
two weeks. How about two hundred and twenty six yards
of the year and twelve catches, but shout out the
IU defense as well. On the season, IU has scored
ninety six points off of turnovers. Kurt Signetti talking about
that after the game.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
It's something we preach quite a bit. I have always
preached at line scrimmage, turnover ratio, explosives. We work a
turnover circuit every week on offense, a ball security circuit,
and the defense works it quite a bit as well,
and turnovers equal points.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
For number nine Notre Dame handling number twenty two PIP
today on the road thirty seven to fifteen. Irish are
eight and two, of course, winning eight straight games since
the early season losses to Texas A and M and
Miami and boy to Texas A and M. Give nearly
a scare today against South Carolina, a twenty eight point
comeback for A and M to beat Carolina final score

(23:21):
of thirty one to thirty, and the Aggies are unbeaten
at ten and zero on the season and number three
in the nation. Eastern Michigan picked up the win over
Ball State twenty four to nine, Youngstown State, rock to
Indiana State forty eight twenty nine, and Valperezo in overtime
with their first Pioneer League win of the year over
Stetson thirty two thirty one. I'm Brendan King.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Welcome back, everybody. I'm Bob Lovel. This is Indiana Sports
Talk College Football today. Eastern Michigan beats ball State twenty
four to nine and MAC Action with me from the
Ball State Network. Our good friend and Collie Kurt Darling. Kurt,
thanks so much for the call. This was not the

(24:04):
day that the Cardinals needed to have this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
That's putting it mildly.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
Coach.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
It was a game which was to kickoff what would
have been a pretty good situation for Ball State going
into this part of the season. Before kickoff today, Coach
ball State controlled their own destiny as far as MAC
Championship prospects. All they had to do was win out

(24:32):
over the last three games, and unfortunately they could not
get the first one in those three games here in
this one. So had they won all three games over
the last three weeks, they would have been heading to
Detroit for the MAC Championship game. But unfortunately, things just
did not go the way that they certainly wanted it
to go. From the very beginning, Eastern Michigan again They

(24:54):
were only three and seven coming into this ballgame, so
they were out of Bowl contention, out of MAC intention.
So they played like a team that had literally nothing
to lose. Yeah, they tough, and they made it tough
from balls for ball State right out of the get go.
They were able to score on their opening drive and
the defense for Michigan for Eastern Michigan, they just made

(25:15):
it tough all day long for ball State and they
didn't get in the end zone at all. They had
nine points off of three field goals from DJ Pitpen
today and on top of that, they couldn't get the
passing game going with Kyle Kelly. He only had sixty
two yards through the air. But ironically enough, a ball
State out gained Eastern Michigan on the ground one hundred

(25:36):
and sixty three yards to one hundred and fifty one yards.
But the difference was the passing game because Noah Kim
for Eastern Michigan. He was eighteen of twenty nine to
day for two hundred nineteen yards and a touchdown, but
he was intercepted twice. The ball State defense gave the
offense a lot of chances today, but they just couldn't
cash in on him today and so it's probably and

(25:57):
it's it is with no sugarcoating coach. It's probably the
most disappointing performance of the season for the Cardinals, given
the fact that they had a chance at a MAC
championship in three weeks and now this was their final
home game of the season. They have to finish out
the season on the road over the next two weeks,
which has certainly been daunting in the MAC this season.

(26:18):
In fact, every team is below five hundred except Western
Michigan on the road this season in MAC play. So
it's certainly been it's been macchin that's what you expect
from it. But either way, ball State not playing for
a MAC championship this year, but they're certainly hoping to
at least get the Bowl eligibility with over the next
two weeks.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
I clearly think you can see progress, great progress being made.
You know, this is from a distant observer, so to speak,
but I think there's clearly a progress that's being made. Well.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Yeah, absolutely, they've already surpassed their win total from a
season ago. Coach mikey Rimovich has really been grabbing the
bull by the horns, so to speak, and he is
actually built a really good culture, even though it's only
a slight improvement over last year year over year from
a season ago. All the raving about how Coachy Rimovich

(27:11):
has basically revitalized this program from a culture standpoint to
bring in the right guys as well as retain the
right talent from a season ago. He has many coaches
from the previous staff still on his staff now, and
so it's a stat they're moving in the right direction.
But there have just been a few nuanced things that
Ball State has really struggled with this year, and that's

(27:33):
overall it's just been consistency, and so they have to
at least try and get a little bit more of
that consistency going over these next two weeks when they
face Toledo next week and then they're going to finish
out the season at Miami of Ohio, and so it
remains to be seen. Either way they can still be
getting the bowl game, but either way you want at
least to get a little bit of a postseason here

(27:54):
for Ball State. But it's been really cool to see
the improvement though that coach Mikey Rimovich has made here
over a year in his first year as the head coach.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, and I think people appreciate that. I mean, I
think people understand what he's doing and how he is
going about it. And in this day and age, you
can make great progress in the matter of months if
you get some success in the portal. And I'm sure
that they're you know, they're like everybody else, going to

(28:22):
be banging away on it in the offseason, dur in
the recruiting season. But you know, a lot of good
things to be talking about relative to ball State football.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Absolutely just gotta just gotta fine tune it, basically, and
so that's kind of where Ball State has been at
the moment. And it was really interesting because Ball State
had a chance today to go to five and zero
under a new under a first year head coach for
the first time since nineteen seventy eight, and that year
they want tom Act Championships. So we were hoping that

(28:55):
we could at least maybe see some lightning strike twice
this season for the ball State Cardinals. But either way,
like we've did, Mike, we've been talking about it's it's
you're moving in the right direction with head coach Mike
y Rimovich, and yeah, it's just a matter of just
getting those better pieces going forward, and who knows, maybe
Miles McLoughlin will be wearing a ball State Cardinals uniform

(29:17):
here next year. After all, he just got offered this
week by ball State. So uh, there's certainly lots of
good to talk about with this team, but you just
got to keep moving forward and clean a few things
up here over these next two weeks, all right.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Kurt Darling, So what's your schedule? What's your When are
you back on the air? Coach? I actually have to start, basta.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
You have to have a Fiday off coming up here
this week, and of course, and then we're going to
be going on the road to Toledo. But then after that,
November twenty fifth is when we have our first basketball
game here on the Talk of Munsey WMU win, so
getting the basketball season, and then I'm gonna have the
privilege to be on the call of the play by
play call of the three A State champion and ship

(30:00):
for the ISSA Champions Network at Lucas Soil Stadium, and
I'll be on.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
The primeline for the five A game as well.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
So certainly lots to be had here. We're just getting
started here as we get into the cold weather months.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
And thank goodness. I know you and folks, what you
don't realize is this man is an award winning journalist,
our award winning electronic journalists. Am I correct.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
In another life?

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Obviously?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
You know, I certainly appreciate my days when I was
at Network INDNWIBC, and so yeah, I certainly look back
on those days fondly as well. But I'm certainly enjoying
the new opportunities here up in monthsy being the sports
director for woof Boom Radio, and it's certainly been a
very good learning experience as well. But you're right, coach,

(30:51):
I certainly enjoy looking back on the days of my
journalism days and certainly lots to look back on with
some smiles.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
As well, so so do all. I'm then glad, and
that's where we first met. I'm glad we did. Kurt,
have fun, Enjoy enjoy a Friday night off you and
your wife. You probably don't get very many of those,
so you need to enjoy enjoy a Friday night off. Okay,
and thank you thanks for taking time to call me.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
Yep, no worries, coach, you have a good night.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Thanks so much. Kurt Darling talking about ball State football.
Tough loss for them this afternoon to Eastern Michigan, and
got a lot more football to talk about, all right,
Brendan King, And I apologize for for not having a
heart to heart conversation with you. I'm actually like you,

(31:43):
I'm trying to work tonight, So I apologize for us
not being able to commiserate like we normally do.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
No apology necessary. Usually when I'm not talking, that's good
because you're staying a busy man.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, and I you know, I get paid to talk.
That's Sam. You know this you do two.

Speaker 9 (32:03):
It's an interesting Carol said when when people ask you
what you do, and I tell people, at this stage
of my life, I sit in my house and talk
sports with my friends and get paid for it.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I mean it's it's you know, it's a great gig
if you can get it. But you're close to doing that,
you get a pretty good guy. I want, actually in
my next life, I want to be you.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Well, I mean that's usually how I respond when people
ask me about the summers. I mean, you know, I
just I just watch baseball for a living coach. I mean,
and I just so happened to talk during the game,
That's right. There's really no there's no rhyme or reason
to it. Just don't I get to watch a baseball
game six or seven days every week.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Nothing better than going to the yard and having some fun.
All Right, we got we got a lot more to go.
You got to school word update coming up, and uh,
then you and I'll d a little bit about your notes.
You're Dame Aers and wants you to fill in all
the blanks for me. See what's going on? You bet?

(33:07):
Coming up Brendan King with another school board update, and
then we've got a lot more football to talk about.
On Network Indiana's Indiana Sports Talk.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'm Brendan King with this Network Indiana scoreboard update here
on Indiana Sports Talk. It's Gone Final from Seattle. Washington
obliterates Purdue final of forty nine to thirteen as Produce
struggled in the first half. All thirteen of Produce points
came in the second half. But they'll remain winless so
far this season in the Big Ten at oh and eight,

(33:40):
And of course the bucket game looms Indiana. They're thirty
one to seven win over Wisconsin today. The bucket game
I use on by next week and then it's I
you at Purdue on Friday the twenty eighth at seven
thirty in West Lafayette. Let's talk about the Pacers who
fell to the Raptors tonight at home one hundred and
twenty nine to one hundred and eleven. Pacers fall to

(34:02):
one to twelve on the season. Twenty two points on
the night from R. J. Barrett Brandon Ingram added nineteen
Scottie Barnes with fourteen. Now, the Pacers' stars played well.
Pascal Siakam had thirty Andrew Nemhard with twenty two. But
the injury riddled Pacers really can catch no breaks when
it comes to those injury concerns. Aaron Nee Smith injured

(34:22):
in the last game against Phoenix be it Rick Carlisle
saying that the injury quote they dodged a bullet. Nie
Smith will miss a matter of weeks, but definitely at
least by the injury concern it could have been a
lot worse based on how that left leg bended for
Nie Smith in the Desert. Five consecutive games the Pacers
have lost by fifteen points or more and that is

(34:43):
for the first time in franchise history. Monon Bell Classic Today,
DePaul Over Wabash forty one to twenty. Some other small
college football was Taylor blasting Madonnas seventy seven to thirty five,
Saint Francis over Judson sixty three to twenty. Mar and
picks up the shutout, went over San Xavier today forty
five nothing.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Welcome back everybody. Just ahead of Christen Airy talking about
the Pacers, We're going to talk with Rick Johnson, who
works the ISC Sports Network. The call today on I
you Indy's loss in volleyball to regular season champs Northern Kentucky.
And he also earlier today had a little women's basketball

(35:27):
I you Indy beat Bradley seventy five sixty seven. Rick,
thanks for the call. You need to get a little
bit busier.

Speaker 8 (35:33):
Well, you know, coach, I'm just trying to make up
for lost time. By the way, I think I'm the
one that caused the phone issues last week. I called
in yeah, and then then the phones went off, So
I'll wear that one last week. I'm hoping for better
results here this week. But you know, just trying to
stay busy, just trying to follow your lead, you know
the usual.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
All right, tell me about this volleyball team. They've been
playing awfully, awfully well.

Speaker 8 (35:56):
They have been, you know, Coach Kroger's got them playing
really well. They came into the wee winners of eleven
out of their last thirteen. They've lost three in a row,
and obviously it's a tough one today going against the
regular season champs in Northern Kentucky. Funny thing these two
teams are competing for the last spot on the Horizon
League tournament a year ago, and now they find themselves
in the top four this year. Ye when he's dropped

(36:18):
the match in four. Last night, you feature the best
setter in the Horizon League who's arguably could be potentially
player of the year in Grace Parika. You get a
wonderful day from senior Morgan Ostrowski, who had a double
double with thirteen kills and eleven blocks eleven. She was unbelievable,
and the Jags had a lead after three. They're up
two to one, look like they're gonna maybe take out

(36:39):
set four. The North come through close Set four in
a seven to one finish, and then a nail bier
with the Norse winning fifteen to twelve in the fifth set.
So the Jags came into the weekend tied for second
in the league. They fall down to the four seed.
They'll take on number five seed Milwaukee in the opening
round next Friday down of NKU for the Horizon League Tournament,
making it.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
For the second year in a row. Well, that's all right,
it's not bad. They listen. They've had a really good year.
Lots of excitement about Katie Bruce's women's basketball team. Good
win today over Bradley.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
Yeah, it was a little bit slower paced than when
you and I were there for the men's team against
Long Island, so that six we expect a little bit,
you know, iundse women's team. Kate Bruce has got them rolling.
They're back to five hundred. Had dropped two games in
a row, but she fell with a couple of plays
here and there and some more made free throws. They
really have a good chance to be three and zero.
The star of the day was Neveah Foster. She had

(37:30):
a game high twenty eight points, fifteen in the first half,
and then a big close from one of their newcomers,
Olivia Smith, the transfer from Ball State, finished with twelve
or fourteen points in the fourth quarter and Iu and
he gets a really nice win over a Bradley team
that had defeated the Paul earlier.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
In the week. All right, Rick Johnson, you're back. I
like you now. I like you again. I was mad
at you and all is for no, all is forgiven.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Now it's good.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
I'm glad Rick. I appreciate to call. Have a great weekend, Rick,
Thanks coaching too. Thank you. Pacers lose tonight one to
eleven to the Toronto Raptors. With me the television voice
of the Indiana Pacers, Christian Ai. Before we talk about
the game, please tell me that you're okay. You're not
on the injured list. No, I'm not. I'm good.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
I I was on with Eddie White and I had
eaten some popcorn in the media room after the game,
I had to I had to say, hey, Eddie, can
we take a break. And fortunately the great people in
the care Source club right off the floor got me
a watch.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (38:38):
I'm fine now, but yeah, you're you're all right. I
am healthy. Unfortunately, the Pacers team is decimated by injuries,
and I mean, you know, it is what it is
right now. And as Rick Carlisle said before the game, Bob,
you know, the NBA can be humbling and the Pacers
were on top of the world last year, made it

(38:59):
to the NBA Finals, a half away from winning a championship,
and Tyreese Halliburton goes down and now no Obi Top
and no aaron Ne Smith. And so it's just it's
tough sledding right now. It's it's hard hard for me
to believe that this is the worst start in Pacers history.
It just is. And uh, you know, they started out.
I thought I got off to a really good start,

(39:21):
had a ten point lead, but then they just run
out of gas. And a lot of these teams are
much improved, Bob. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:28):
We saw Phoenix on Thursday Toronto tonight. And I think
the other thing is they see Indiana across the chest
and they're like, hey, right, they're a team that went
to the finals last year, so we want to show
how good we are. And you know, it's all it's
all happening right now.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Hey, I need you to hang on through this short break.
Can you do that? I can do it perfect. Kristin
Aaron now come back, talk more Pacer basketball. Welcome back everyone.
Kristin ay rejoins us. We're talking about the Pacers. They
lost tonight to the Toronto Raptors one, twenty nine to eleven.
Am I seeing this schedule right, They've got a little

(40:04):
bit of a break and don't play until Friday.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
Oh no, no, We've got Monday against Detroit at Detroit.
You will fly tomorrow, the Wednesday against Charlotte and then Friday. Yes,
so no, no no.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Break like no break now? Yeah, Well, is there any
good news on the horizon that you can get some
excitement about how this thing is going?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
Well? Hopefully Benedict Mathren will be back sometime soon. We
still don't have a definitive word on that.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
He played in the first two games and scored thirty
six and twenty six and you know, got off to
a good start. We just don't know, I mean, you know,
I guess the best news was the fact that Aaron
Smith's knee injury isn't as bad as fear, because when
he went down I thought it could have been he

(40:59):
could have lost for the season, but Rick Carlisle said
before the game that they will revisit in a month,
so we'll just have to wait and see. It was
a NIE sprain, an MCL sprain, not an MCL tear,
so that was probably the best news of any but
that still came with a caveat that he's gonna miss

(41:19):
the next month.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Part of the issue is that, like in tonight's ball game,
and is this a team that ran out of gas,
you just don't have enough bodies to take the pounding
that you're going to take night after night.

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Well, one of the strengths of this team, and again
it's hard to compare this year to last year because
you're dealing with nine people, but one of the strengths
of this team the last few years has been its
depth and five or six guys scoring in double figures.
And tonight, for the most part, you had the two leaders,
Nemhard and Siakam with twenty plus and thirty plus, and

(41:57):
you just didn't get much from the rest of the group.
So that's something that you know the coaching staff is
working on as much as they can. Guys have to improve,
and some of these young guys just are are put
in positions that they've not been in before. I mean,
somebody like Jeris Walker and Ben Sheppard have been valuable reserves,
but they've maybe been eight, nine or ten, not six,

(42:20):
seven or eight. So it's just something that again there's
no letup in the NBA. The Monday night in Detroit,
they lead the East. They're eleven and two. And this
is a team that two years ago, I think they
lost twenty three in a row. So things can turn
around in a hurry. And as good as it was

(42:42):
last year, in fact, all the way back to June
with the great run that we had, right now, it's
just a real struggle.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Kristin Airey is the television voice of the Indiana Pacers.
The Pacers lose to the Rafters tonight nine one eleven.
They're back in action coming up on Monday in Detroit. Chris,
thank you so much for the time. Always great to
catch up with you have a great weekend.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
All right, Thanks Bob, thank you.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
That is a tough way to go for our guys.
That's tough. Coming up top the hour school board update
with Brendan King, We're gonna talk with Paul Connery in
the next hour about high school football, recapping the regionals
last night, and looking ahead as we get closer and
closer to the state finals. This is Indiana Sports Talk.
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