April 7, 2025 • 31 mins
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Timestamps:
03:58 "30 Dates Challenge"
09:29 Courageous Relationship Boundaries Conversation
10:10 "Understanding Casual Relationships"
14:25 "Threesome Story at the Abbey"
17:26 "Threesome Dynamics: Equal Attention"
23:01 Networking Through Lifestyle Circles
23:56 Money, Power, Women Approach
28:54 Top Men, Social Circles, Maturity
30:27 Build Your Dream Social Circle
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Have you ever fantasized about having a rotation of women?
Or maybe a harem if you want to call it that?
Or a threesome, or hooking up with porn stars or doing other
wild sexual stuff? Of course you have.
In this video I'm going to show you why most guys will never be
able to live out those sexual fantasies and the one big reason
that's probably holding them back.
Then I'm going to give you the road map for crossing everything
off your sexual bucket list and why it's really important you
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actually do that before committing to a monogamous long
term relationship with your dream girl.
Then I'm going to give you the exact playbook of how to pull
off this stuff, a threesome, A harem, and also how to hook up
with the hottest baddies you canfind.
Or if you're into porn stars, I can do that too.
You're listening to the Inner Confidence podcast.
My name is Robbie Kramer, I've been a coach since 2007 and I've
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helped countless men rapidly achieve all of their social and
dating goals. My mission is simple, to help
you position yourself to meet stunning women, make awesome
friends in route to becoming themost confident and attractive
version you can possibly be. I'm absolutely obsessed with
giving you the most leverage ways possible to win the game.
So stick around, let's go. So first, let's talk about why
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most guys won't ever be able to pull this off.
Most guys fluctuate between forced celibacy and monogamy.
And forced celibacy is just a fancy way of saying you're
masturbating a lot. You have no one to hook up with,
you have no one to have sex with.
And what happens for most guys is once they meet a girl that
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they're interested in and who shows some interest back, you
know, they naturally end up hooking up.
And then the girl understands that he's very much invested in
her. And why would she not demand
monogamy, right? It's a good deal for her.
She gets, you know, pure access to all of the things that come
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with dating him, his time, his attention, you know, benefits of
being in a relationship with himif he has money.
And usually women try to date higher value guys.
Women don't date down. They always date up.
So it's in her best interest to get you into a monogamous
relationship, even if she's not even looking for that, even if
she's like a young girl who's just trying to get out there
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and, and you know, go through that, that stage of finding
herself, as they call it, she's still going to demand that from
you. You're you'll be the simp
boyfriend. You'll be in the boyfriend zone,
and that really happens to all guys who struggle with nice guy
syndrome. So my story about struggling
with nice guy syndrome was, you know, pretty simple.
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I'm guessing if you're listeningto this, you could relate.
The only way I knew of how to seduce women was try to do nice
things for them, like make extracopies of my homework in high
school. Luckily I, I found that when I
did meet a girl after a while of, you know, showing interest
and, and kind of like wearing her down, I was able to, you
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know, get in a relationship. But I had these long periods.
I had like 3 multi year relationships in my all through
my 20s and into my early 30s. In the back of my mind, I was
always jealous of the guys who would go out to bars and clubs
and and pull girls from there and have these sort of open
relationships or have these wildand crazy adventures.
But I could never do that because I was just too afraid to
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ever set up those sorts of open relationships.
I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know how to have, you
know, the conversations that would allow me to break out of
that forced monogamy situation. And then obviously when I did
break up with a girl and then I was single, I was, you know,
just wondering when the next time I was going to have sex
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was. So the process would kind of
repeat. It was like a vicious circle.
And finally I learned to spin plates.
Spinning plates is another way of saying managing a rotation of
girls or dating multiple women at the same time.
Eventually this happened becauseI was I was dating this girl.
She was like total wifey material living in New York.
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She was a pharmacist, made good money.
Also same religious background. Not that I was very religious,
but you know, it just kind of dawned on me like, Oh my God,
I'm not ready for this. And we were both in our early
30s. So I broke it off and she was
devastated. You know, I kind of wasted her
time, which I didn't feel great about, but I at least at that
point in the road, I told myself, all right, Robbie,
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you're not allowed to be in, in another monogamous relationship
until you've crossed that stuff off your sexual bucket list that
you've really been fantasizing about, right?
So I've made a challenge with a buddy of fine, he was a wingman
to go on 30 dates, 31st dates in30 days.
And this is right when Tinder had come out in New York City
circa 2012. And I did a combination of
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Tinder hunting during the day. You know, people call that day
game basically just approaching girls on the subway, on the
sidewalk, at Starbucks, whereverI saw them and then went out,
you know, many nights a week, sometimes four, 5-6 nights a
week with my buddy who was also very motivated to go out and go
on a ton of dates. And it was really helpful to
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have a wingman to push each other.
We lived together, we cooked together, we worked out
together, we were working on businesses together.
And having that sort of accountability from a buddy who
had the right mentality in the right frame was I think the
biggest thing that really allowed me to experience that,
that crazy period of growth. And so for the next 6 months,
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you know, I did the 30 dates and30 days.
I ended up going on I think morethan 31st dates.
And I also went on 2nd dates and3rd dates and then some
obviously more dates once we started, once I started hooking
up with those girls. This allowed me to be in in a
place of abundance for the firsttime ever in my life.
Knowing that I had more dates set up basically stopped me from
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trying to, you know, get to sex as fast as I could with each
girl. And you know, cuz what I would
typically do before that was I'dmeet a girl, have a good date,
and then I'd want to see her again.
So we'd see her again and I'd see her again.
Then we'd be having sex and thenwe'd start hanging out basically
every day. And then sooner or later, you
know, we're dating. And when you see a girl every
day or multiple times per week, it's very obvious to her that
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you're not seeing anyone else, right?
But if you're only seeing her once a week or you don't wanna
make it too obvious, you wanna kind of stagger it so it doesn't
look like you're doing that right?
She doesn't wanna think she's your Wednesday girl.
But if you have a lot of stuff to do, it's going to be easy to
to keep that time. And when you're doing that,
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you're basically signaling to her that I'm not looking for
anything serious, right? I've got other stuff going on.
She doesn't know what you're doing.
You're not texting her every night because you're on dates
with other girls. And she doesn't need to know
that you're, you know, overtly doing that.
But she'll just kind of likely figure it out.
And, and women are always doing this too, right?
They're seeing a guy or they're talking to a few different guys.
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That just means, you know, it means what it means, like
they're probably doing more thantalking or more than seeing.
That means they're they're sleeping with multiple men some
of the time. Obviously these words are meant
to, to fool you for a reason, right?
But all women when they're single have a roster of guys
that are going after them and they are choosing the best guy
out of that long, long list of of guys on the roster,
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especially if they're hot, right?
That list could be hundreds of dudes.
Now with social media, Instagram, thousands of dudes,
right? Any guy in the whole, in the
whole world is potentially on that list if he slid into the
DMS or they met or whatever. But this is the process what I
call hunting spinning plates. Like you learn to get good at
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dating, right? And most guys never get good at
dating. They just date the first great
girl that comes along. Or if you're like me, then you
break up with her and then you find the next one when you're,
you know, when you're horny and,and frustrated and rinse,
repeat, right? That's the forced celibacy to,
to monogamy. So again, to break out of that,
you got to learn to hunt. You got to learn how to take
women on dates. How do you do that?
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You go on a lot of dates. You learn the dating protocol.
Download it for free from my site.
We've solved first dates and 2nddates, 3rd dates like the if a
girl agrees to a date, we've solved how to turn that into a
sexual relationship. It's, it's not that difficult.
You just don't do what every other guy's doing.
But you need to do that a lot. You need to get that experience
in that exposure. And when you do, after a while,
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you'll be forced to have these conversations of, call it define
the relationship talk. Now, again, if you've managed to
maintain the right frame of not seeing her too often, and she
might just realize that, OK, there's no point in having this
define the relationship talk because this guy is showing
versus telling. But eventually when you hit that
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three month mark, sometimes it'll take a little longer.
Most girls, if they really like you, right, they're going to be
like, well, what are we? They're going to want to define
the relationship. And in that case, I would say
get ahead of it. Right before she brings that up,
what I'd like to do is say, hey,listen, I wanted to kind of have
a talk with you. I don't want to be presumptuous,
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but, you know, I feel like I like you and I think you like
me. And I just kind of want to let
you know, like, you know what's in my head about what I'm
thinking. Listen, I really like you.
I want to be honest with you first and foremost, because I
respect you and I'm not really in a place to commit to anything
like serious right now. You know, I'm, I'm young and I'm
working on my business and I just don't know where you know
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what I'm doing, where I'm going to be.
I'm going to have to move for work.
I'm just not in a place where I can like offer it, that sort of
thing. But I still want to keep having
fun with you. I want to see where this goes.
And I just kind of wanted you toknow that.
And you know, if you're looking for something more, I don't also
want to waste your time. Most girls will be very happy
that you had that conversation with them.
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They wouldn't have to be awkwardand bring it up because it's
never easy for them to bring it up either.
And when you do that, you're basically signaling that you
have the courage to let her walkaway.
And she might walk away, but if the sex was good and the sex
will be good. If you're going out on a lot of
dates and having sex with a variety of women, you're going
to learn that every woman's different and they're not all
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the same in bed and how to be a better lover, right?
You need that experience to be abetter lover.
Obviously you can get that by being in long term relationships
as well, but that's just with one girl.
And it's pretty crazy to me likehow the preferences in bed like
really change from girl to girl.So if you're a good lover,
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she'll come back, right? She'll come back and she'll
booty call you or she'll, you know, date another guy and then
like she'll be on the rebound and then she'll hit you up.
But you will always be that guy sort of in her life where she
can go to for for great sex. And it doesn't have to be this
pressurized commitment sort of thing.
It's really hard for women to find that.
And you know, you're not doing what the typical guy does, which
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is just cheat on her. When you do that, you develop
the correct frame for being a guy in abundance.
And the girls that are leftover,you know that don't basically
leave are the ones where you canthen start having crazy sexual
adventures with because they've effectively opted in to that
scenario, right? She's basically said, OK, you
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know, you, you have the freedom do what you do.
I enjoy having sex with you so we can keep doing that.
Remember, none of this is an overt communication that we've
not verbally had, like discussedwhat I just said, right?
That would be awkward. But she just kind of
understands. So at that point, I might go
threesome hunting with a girl, especially if I find out that
she's interested in in other women and that sort of stuff,
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which will be kind of obvious based on, you know, how she
checks out other girls or she'lldrop little hints here or there.
So I'm going to tell you three different stories of the three
different sort of frameworks forhow you can have a threesome.
The first one is how you can have a threesome with your
girlfriend. The first time I did this I was
in my late 20s. It was before the girl that I
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mentioned who was the pharmacistand this girl, I, I found out
she was interested in other women because we watched that
movie called Hall Pass and she expressed interest in having a
hall pass, which is basically like a day off from their
relationship. And we said, OK, we'll, we'll do
that. She hooked up with this
Australian and told me all abouthow he destroyed her and how he
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had the world's biggest Dick andthat, that was fantastic.
Let me tell you, that was prettybrutal.
Luckily I got even and I had a hall pass, right?
I hooked up with a girl while I was giving a, a presentation in
Miami. And you know, we were both
jealous, but we dealt with it. So that was a, a tough pill to
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swallow, you could say. But a very important lesson
learned that I was actually ableto, to create that setup.
And then that paved the way to us having a threesome in Vegas.
Not long after we went out to a nightclub, Dre's after hours in
Vegas and it was just like luck would have it.
Some girl walked up to us and she was we were flirting with
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her and I did the job of kind oflike opening her first, which is
what most guys screw up. They try to get the girl to do
all the work. But I opened this girl and I was
like flirting with both. But obviously I had my
girlfriend in tow so I had that pre selection from her.
We ended up hooking up that night and you know it was it was
cool. I had some sexual dysfunction
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because I was too nervous, but managed to, you know, at least
have that cross it off the the bucket list for the threesome.
The next threesome I had was a few years later.
This was a girl I met through mysocial circle.
She was actually like staying with us.
We had an Airbnb place in LA that we we rented and we
subletted on Airbnb back in like2013 when, when that was totally
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not something everybody did. But she stayed with us.
And overtime, I didn't really like try to go for her, make any
moves because I knew that she was, you know, this hot, like
bottle service waitress and every guy was hitting on her.
So I just kind of waited. I waited until she, you know,
was kind of like tipsy one nightand she like found me at in the
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house when all the other guys were kind of hitting on her.
And she's like, hey, let's smokeweed together.
So I'm not really a weed smoker,but she smoked weed and then we
hooked up and she had seen me like going on dates with other
girls. And she kind of like knew my
vibe also from my buddy who was,you know, basically telling her
like, what a, you know, a playerI am.
But so she already knew like that I wasn't interested in and
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monogamy and she was really intoother girls.
So we started going threesome hunting and one of the most
notable threesomes we had was wewere at the Abbey, which is a
gay bar in West Hollywood, very iconic gay bar that most people
have been to at some point or another.
On a on a trip to LA and there was this cute girl there.
And I walk up to her and I had my girlfriend on my arm and I
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said hey 3 random questions for you.
The 1st Do you find us each independently attractive?
And she's like, yeah. And I said, do you have a
boyfriend? And she said no.
And I said, well, what's your excuse for not making out with
us right now? And then I pushed her head with
my girlfriend, said they startedmaking out.
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And then I kind of started making out with her too.
And then the three of us startedmaking out.
We ended up going back home, hada wild and crazy threesome.
The girl at the end kind of got,I don't know, a little bit
spooked or something because my girlfriend tried to tried to
basically do some like butt stuff with her which is quite
funny. This girl like ran out of the
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house, jumped into her car naked, drove her car home back
to the Palisades and crashed into a parked car right in front
of her house. She called us the next day with
the story. It was, it was good that she
called obviously, because we knew that she wasn't obviously
that freaked out. And then she came back that next
night and we had another threesome and the butt stuff was
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was done too. So that was fun.
The last threesome story was with two girls that I was
casually dating. So neither of these girls were
my girlfriend. They both knew that I was like,
basically, you know, not in any sort of monogamous
relationships. I was, I was kind of a digital
nomad at the time. They both lived in New York and
I was splitting my time between New York, LA and Europe.
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So when I was in New York, I'd see them, we'd hook up and I
would always tell them about my crazy adventures.
And at one point I was like, Hey, you need to meet this other
girl because I feel like you guys would really hit it off.
You're both spiritual and you'reinto like numerology and, and
all this sort of like spiritual girl chick crack stuff that I
talked about all the time in the, in the, in the IC
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community. I make all the guys in the IC
community learn how to sort of have these spiritual
conversations. Then it's chicks dig this stuff
that it really, they can't get enough of it.
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before, I guarantee it's nothinglike this one.
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you're looking to take your gamein the next level, this could be
the place for you. So we met and I went to a bar.
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I invited both of them. They both knew and went back to
my place. And we had just like probably
the best threesome I'd ever had because there wasn't any
pressure to like give one girl more or less attention because
both of them were kind of at that, at that same level in
terms of commitment and proximity closeness to me,
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right? When you have a threesome with
your girlfriend, she's probably going to be like super critical
and, and worried that you're going to spend more time with
the other girl. Maybe you're going to come with
the other girl, right? And so you want to manage that
and obviously don't do that because it's going to cause
drama. But both of these girls were
like, really, I like them both the same.
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They both liked me kind of the same.
They both liked each other. And when you can get that
amazing chemistry where it's like everybody likes everybody
kind of the same, then those make amazing threesomes when
it's very actually hard to do that because most of the time
there's like two people that arereally more into it and one
person kind of feels left out. As a guy, I recommend it's, it's
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better if you're the one who feels a little bit left out.
You know, obviously it's bad foryour ego, but you'll learn over
time how to get better at that and how to not be like the
thirsty guy and push that. And then what will happen is
eventually the girls will be like, all right, we need some,
we need some Dick because you know, it's great to do the
carpet munching, but after a while, like we need some cock.
So at that point then they'll really like want your
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involvement, but you have to youhave to stay patient.
So I don't want to get too in the weeds with the insurance and
outs of of that, but, you know, leave me a comment if you're
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that information. So once you have done that,
right now, your frame is much stronger.
You're the type of guy who has threesomes.
You're not like intimidated by that.
If you're then looking to like take it even further, if you
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want like group sex, you know, orgies, hooking up with porn
stars, whatever, It's time to develop a social circle of these
sexually liberated women. And the best way to do that is
go where they go. And really easy to find that.
And in the big cities like LA, New York, San Francisco, Miami,
Europe, you go to sex parties, right?
And most sex parties are relatively easy to find.
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You know, they kind of advertiseand it's going to be the 8020
rule, right? 80% of the people are going to
be like, not people you want to hook up with old, maybe not
unattractive, not not the best looking crowd, but 20% will
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So first time I ever went to a sex party, I went with that same
girl who I mentioned that I had the second threesome with and
many, many subsequent threesomeswith later and it was a mansion
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party in LA. We went with my buddy and his
girl and we had never like swapped girls or done anything
like that and we weren't about to either.
That would have just been a little bit weird between him and
I and and those girls, although the girls probably would have
been down. Girls tend to like just kind of
follow, follow the leader if you're, if the guys are
comfortable with it, usually thegirls can get behind it,
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especially if they're bi curiousor bisexual.
So, you know, it was a little bit surreal being there.
And we didn't hook up with anyone else, but we did have sex
in this, like, mirrored room where a lot of people were
coming and going. So it was our first time kind of
being like exhibitionists. And at one point, some guy tried
to like, come over and get involved.
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And I had to like, gracefully tell him, no, sorry, she's not
really into that. You know, it forced me to, to
get more confident in terms of communicating with people,
especially in that environment. And we had a good time.
You know, neither of us really pushed each other to do do
anything wild or crazy that likemade us feel more comfortable.
And we just kept going back. And over time, we started
getting invited to private sex parties from hot couples
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because, you know, they're like,OK, these people are hot.
They're young and cool and fun. And we were invited to like a
birthday party by this one couple.
They had three kids and the kidswere, you know, off at summer
camp. They had a big pool in the
backyard and there were like 10 other couples there.
They're all hot, They're all cool.
And that was like a crazy amazing afternoon, which turned
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into very late evening and morning by the time we left.
And our social circle of these just like couples.
And there were a lot of unicornsin the space too.
A Unicorn is like a single girl who goes to these sorts of
things because it's, it's a way for them to sort of exercise
their sexuality without, you know, the constraints of a
boyfriend, right? They know, like these guys are
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in relationships, they're not going to, like, seek them out.
So it's kind of a safe place forthem to explore.
And when you build a social circle of these types of people,
it's interesting who you meet. It's typically very successful,
high net worth dudes who have game and who also have the
resources to like pull this sortof thing off.
And the best way to to network with these sorts of guys is to
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bring value in the form of, you know, beautiful women, right?
Like every guy in the position of power and you know, and they
have resources, money, like theyall typically want more women,
especially if they're in open relationships or whatnot.
And by being the guy who has access to that, that is the
fastest way to network. And obviously if you have sex
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with the in the same room with the guy, you're gonna get gonna
get to become friends pretty quickly.
And then, you know, who knows what sort of business deals will
come from that or other amazing opportunities in your life,
right? The the axiom from Scarface is
first you get the money, then you get the power, then you get
the women. But in reality, the way it
worked for me, and I think most guys is first you get some money
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and then you learn how to be very good with women.
And then you're able to transactwith high net worth guys by
showing, but like game recognized game.
And these guys understand you'recool because you have this
access to girls and they see youwith hot girls and you're
validated because of that. And then they want to get to
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know you. And then you use that to get
money and then you get power andthen you get even more of the
women. So I think developing your
social skills and not being the like nerd who gets really rich
and has no social skills and then becomes like a sugar daddy
and he gets taken advantage by girls.
And that's no good if you go that route.
So the last thing I did in termsof like the things I always want
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to cross off my sexual bucket list was I had sex with a few
different very well known porn stars.
The way I met the first one was at one of these Vegas sex party
hotel takeovers and she happenedto be there with her boyfriend.
I think they're married now and they have a kid together.
But this is when they were stillfirst dating and he was her
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manager and they were at the party.
They quickly recognized me and my girlfriend as two of the
better looking people. And we kind of found our little
crew of people had our own little private thing.
And me and the girl, you know, we connected really well.
And at one point, you know, her,her dude was like, hey, if you
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want to like take Ariana and, you know, just have some fun
together without like the big group thing, like you're welcome
to do that. And I was like, yeah, well,
you're welcome to do the same with my girl.
And so we kind of did that swap and that was, that was wild,
right 'cause this is a girl I'd seen in lots of things.
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And then I ended up having sex with some other really well
known porn stars in Eastern Europe.
When I moved to Ukraine, I developed a social circle both
there and with some other girls in Budapest, 'cause I traveled
back and forth to Budapest quitea bit.
And Budapest is kind of well known as the capital of Eastern
European porn production. It's kind of like the Van Nuys,
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the Valley of Europe. And I met these two women at a
friends birthday party because he was friends with one of the
biggest producers in Budapest and she brought the girls and I
sort of like massaged those relationships over a series of a
few months. I came back to Budapest and then
I saw them at another buddies birthday party in Cyprus.
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And I wasn't pushy. I wasn't a fan boy, but I go,
well, this is poor stars. Like I didn't really give them
extra attention or anything likethat.
It was just flirty and normal. And sure enough, as I played the
long game, they both expressed interest and invited and wanted
them to like, you know, a night out in Budapest with some other
friends and some other girls. And, you know, we went to
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dinner, then went to a club, andthen we hung out.
And then afterwards everyone kind of left.
And then I hooked up with one ofthese girls.
And then kind of the same thing happened in Kiev when one of
them was visiting a few months later.
So the last thing on my sexual bucket list was joining the Mile
High Club. And for whatever reason, you
know, I had the opportunity many, many times travelling with
girlfriends, but I always had too much anxiety because, you
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know, go in the in the lavatory in the back and you get, you
know, you're worried that someone's going to, you know,
someone's going to catch you or something's going to happen,
right? It's not like they can really do
anything. But it was like a fear of mine.
So at one point I was travellingon a party trip.
It was another guy's birthday and we are flying from Kiev to
Cyprus again. It's very fun to party in Cyprus
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if you bring a bunch of hot girls with you and cool guys.
But there were two girls that I had hooked up with before who
had hooked up with together. We had had a threesome together
anyways, so I was like, Hey, let's all go join the Mile High
Club in the tiny little bathroomin the back of the commercial,
you know, airliner. It was fly UIA or, you know, it
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was the Ukrainian International Airlines and they had two hot
flight attendants and I wasn't like worried that they were
going to like bust me. So my anxiety was cured.
We we went into the lavatory, had a fun little threesome in
there. Cross that one off the bucket
list and now I have a funny story to brag about.
So that is the sort of progression on how to have these
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experiences. And obviously you start by
learning to hunt. You learn how to have a better
frame by setting up these open relationships.
Remember, don't do it overtly. Do it more covertly, Show versus
tell. And if you have to tell, be the
one to tell before she has to ask you.
And then you'll, you'll have a pool of girls who are open to
these crazy things. And then you start doing them.
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You have the confidence to actually go out and do them
right. Push your comfort zone, have
fun. Girls are always looking for
guys who are like willing to, toget them into crazy stuff,
right? It's hard for them to find guys
like that, believe it or not. And that's why they say like the
top 5% of guys have all the girls because they're doing
these sorts of things. Then you develop a social circle
of more of these girls. And then once that happens,
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it's, it's quite easy to explorewhatever you want to explore if
you want to be in a monogamous relationship, just like I did.
You know, later when I met my wife Maria, I had done all this
stuff. So I like didn't have these
nagging voices in my head saying, Oh, Robbie, you, you
shouldn't commit to anyone because you haven't done all
those things. And like, because I've done
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those things, they lost their their luster, right?
It's like, it's cool to drive a really fancy sports car a few
times and then you're like, OK, it's just, it's just a car after
a while. That's the same thing I
experienced with like the group sex threesomes and porn stars
and all that sort of stuff. It's like it's cool and it's
novel and it's just fun. But after a while, you know, it
is what it is. And I kind of got older, grew up
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and wanted to, you know, have a normal relationship, have a
family and not really give a shit about that stuff anymore.
But that sabotaged me from a lotof those earlier relationships.
Had I done all that stuff in my 20s or early 30s, you know, it
maybe I would have been ready for that sooner.
I wasn't ready to do any of thatstuff until I wasn't ready for a
monogamist long term relationship until I was like 38
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because it it took me all throughout my 30s to accomplish
all of those sexual goals that Ihad to not be, you know, having
the grass is always greener conversation when you're in a
relationship and you're wishing you're single and able to like
pull a bunch of girls. So hope that was informative.
That's how you do it. And if you have any questions,
drop a comment. See you in the next episode.
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Have you ever fantasized about having a rotation of women?
Or maybe a harem if you want to call it that?
Or a threesome, or hooking up with porn stars or doing other
wild sexual stuff? Of course you have.
In this video I'm going to show you why most guys will never be
able to live out those sexual fantasies and the one big reason
that's probably holding them back.
Then I'm going to give you the road map for crossing everything
off your sexual bucket list and why it's really important you
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actually do that before committing to a monogamous long
term relationship with your dream girl.
Then I'm going to give you the exact playbook of how to pull
off this stuff, a threesome, A harem, and also how to hook up
with the hottest baddies you canfind.
Or if you're into porn stars, I can do that too.
You're listening to the Inner Confidence podcast.
My name is Robbie Kramer, I've been a coach since 2007 and I've
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helped countless men rapidly achieve all of their social and
dating goals. My mission is simple, to help
you position yourself to meet stunning women, make awesome
friends in route to becoming themost confident and attractive
version you can possibly be. I'm absolutely obsessed with
giving you the most leverage ways possible to win the game.
So stick around, let's go. So first, let's talk about why
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most guys won't ever be able to pull this off.
Most guys fluctuate between forced celibacy and monogamy.
And forced celibacy is just a fancy way of saying you're
masturbating a lot. You have no one to hook up with,
you have no one to have sex with.
And what happens for most guys is once they meet a girl that
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they're interested in and who shows some interest back, you
know, they naturally end up hooking up.
And then the girl understands that he's very much invested in
her. And why would she not demand
monogamy, right? It's a good deal for her.
She gets, you know, pure access to all of the things that come
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with dating him, his time, his attention, you know, benefits of
being in a relationship with himif he has money.
And usually women try to date higher value guys.
Women don't date down. They always date up.
So it's in her best interest to get you into a monogamous
relationship, even if she's not even looking for that, even if
she's like a young girl who's just trying to get out there
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and, and you know, go through that, that stage of finding
herself, as they call it, she's still going to demand that from
you. You're you'll be the simp
boyfriend. You'll be in the boyfriend zone,
and that really happens to all guys who struggle with nice guy
syndrome. So my story about struggling
with nice guy syndrome was, you know, pretty simple.
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I'm guessing if you're listeningto this, you could relate.
The only way I knew of how to seduce women was try to do nice
things for them, like make extracopies of my homework in high
school. Luckily I, I found that when I
did meet a girl after a while of, you know, showing interest
and, and kind of like wearing her down, I was able to, you
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know, get in a relationship. But I had these long periods.
I had like 3 multi year relationships in my all through
my 20s and into my early 30s. In the back of my mind, I was
always jealous of the guys who would go out to bars and clubs
and and pull girls from there and have these sort of open
relationships or have these wildand crazy adventures.
But I could never do that because I was just too afraid to
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ever set up those sorts of open relationships.
I didn't know how to do it. I didn't know how to have, you
know, the conversations that would allow me to break out of
that forced monogamy situation. And then obviously when I did
break up with a girl and then I was single, I was, you know,
just wondering when the next time I was going to have sex
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was. So the process would kind of
repeat. It was like a vicious circle.
And finally I learned to spin plates.
Spinning plates is another way of saying managing a rotation of
girls or dating multiple women at the same time.
Eventually this happened becauseI was I was dating this girl.
She was like total wifey material living in New York.
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She was a pharmacist, made good money.
Also same religious background. Not that I was very religious,
but you know, it just kind of dawned on me like, Oh my God,
I'm not ready for this. And we were both in our early
30s. So I broke it off and she was
devastated. You know, I kind of wasted her
time, which I didn't feel great about, but I at least at that
point in the road, I told myself, all right, Robbie,
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you're not allowed to be in, in another monogamous relationship
until you've crossed that stuff off your sexual bucket list that
you've really been fantasizing about, right?
So I've made a challenge with a buddy of fine, he was a wingman
to go on 30 dates, 31st dates in30 days.
And this is right when Tinder had come out in New York City
circa 2012. And I did a combination of
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Tinder hunting during the day. You know, people call that day
game basically just approaching girls on the subway, on the
sidewalk, at Starbucks, whereverI saw them and then went out,
you know, many nights a week, sometimes four, 5-6 nights a
week with my buddy who was also very motivated to go out and go
on a ton of dates. And it was really helpful to
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have a wingman to push each other.
We lived together, we cooked together, we worked out
together, we were working on businesses together.
And having that sort of accountability from a buddy who
had the right mentality in the right frame was I think the
biggest thing that really allowed me to experience that,
that crazy period of growth. And so for the next 6 months,
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you know, I did the 30 dates and30 days.
I ended up going on I think morethan 31st dates.
And I also went on 2nd dates and3rd dates and then some
obviously more dates once we started, once I started hooking
up with those girls. This allowed me to be in in a
place of abundance for the firsttime ever in my life.
Knowing that I had more dates set up basically stopped me from
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trying to, you know, get to sex as fast as I could with each
girl. And you know, cuz what I would
typically do before that was I'dmeet a girl, have a good date,
and then I'd want to see her again.
So we'd see her again and I'd see her again.
Then we'd be having sex and thenwe'd start hanging out basically
every day. And then sooner or later, you
know, we're dating. And when you see a girl every
day or multiple times per week, it's very obvious to her that
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you're not seeing anyone else, right?
But if you're only seeing her once a week or you don't wanna
make it too obvious, you wanna kind of stagger it so it doesn't
look like you're doing that right?
She doesn't wanna think she's your Wednesday girl.
But if you have a lot of stuff to do, it's going to be easy to
to keep that time. And when you're doing that,
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you're basically signaling to her that I'm not looking for
anything serious, right? I've got other stuff going on.
She doesn't know what you're doing.
You're not texting her every night because you're on dates
with other girls. And she doesn't need to know
that you're, you know, overtly doing that.
But she'll just kind of likely figure it out.
And, and women are always doing this too, right?
They're seeing a guy or they're talking to a few different guys.
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That just means, you know, it means what it means, like
they're probably doing more thantalking or more than seeing.
That means they're they're sleeping with multiple men some
of the time. Obviously these words are meant
to, to fool you for a reason, right?
But all women when they're single have a roster of guys
that are going after them and they are choosing the best guy
out of that long, long list of of guys on the roster,
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especially if they're hot, right?
That list could be hundreds of dudes.
Now with social media, Instagram, thousands of dudes,
right? Any guy in the whole, in the
whole world is potentially on that list if he slid into the
DMS or they met or whatever. But this is the process what I
call hunting spinning plates. Like you learn to get good at
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dating, right? And most guys never get good at
dating. They just date the first great
girl that comes along. Or if you're like me, then you
break up with her and then you find the next one when you're,
you know, when you're horny and,and frustrated and rinse,
repeat, right? That's the forced celibacy to,
to monogamy. So again, to break out of that,
you got to learn to hunt. You got to learn how to take
women on dates. How do you do that?
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You go on a lot of dates. You learn the dating protocol.
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We've solved first dates and 2nddates, 3rd dates like the if a
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You just don't do what every other guy's doing.
But you need to do that a lot. You need to get that experience
in that exposure. And when you do, after a while,
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you'll be forced to have these conversations of, call it define
the relationship talk. Now, again, if you've managed to
maintain the right frame of not seeing her too often, and she
might just realize that, OK, there's no point in having this
define the relationship talk because this guy is showing
versus telling. But eventually when you hit that
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three month mark, sometimes it'll take a little longer.
Most girls, if they really like you, right, they're going to be
like, well, what are we? They're going to want to define
the relationship. And in that case, I would say
get ahead of it. Right before she brings that up,
what I'd like to do is say, hey,listen, I wanted to kind of have
a talk with you. I don't want to be presumptuous,
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but, you know, I feel like I like you and I think you like
me. And I just kind of want to let
you know, like, you know what's in my head about what I'm
thinking. Listen, I really like you.
I want to be honest with you first and foremost, because I
respect you and I'm not really in a place to commit to anything
like serious right now. You know, I'm, I'm young and I'm
working on my business and I just don't know where you know
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what I'm doing, where I'm going to be.
I'm going to have to move for work.
I'm just not in a place where I can like offer it, that sort of
thing. But I still want to keep having
fun with you. I want to see where this goes.
And I just kind of wanted you toknow that.
And you know, if you're looking for something more, I don't also
want to waste your time. Most girls will be very happy
that you had that conversation with them.
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They wouldn't have to be awkwardand bring it up because it's
never easy for them to bring it up either.
And when you do that, you're basically signaling that you
have the courage to let her walkaway.
And she might walk away, but if the sex was good and the sex
will be good. If you're going out on a lot of
dates and having sex with a variety of women, you're going
to learn that every woman's different and they're not all
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the same in bed and how to be a better lover, right?
You need that experience to be abetter lover.
Obviously you can get that by being in long term relationships
as well, but that's just with one girl.
And it's pretty crazy to me likehow the preferences in bed like
really change from girl to girl.So if you're a good lover,
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she'll come back, right? She'll come back and she'll
booty call you or she'll, you know, date another guy and then
like she'll be on the rebound and then she'll hit you up.
But you will always be that guy sort of in her life where she
can go to for for great sex. And it doesn't have to be this
pressurized commitment sort of thing.
It's really hard for women to find that.
And you know, you're not doing what the typical guy does, which
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is just cheat on her. When you do that, you develop
the correct frame for being a guy in abundance.
And the girls that are leftover,you know that don't basically
leave are the ones where you canthen start having crazy sexual
adventures with because they've effectively opted in to that
scenario, right? She's basically said, OK, you
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know, you, you have the freedom do what you do.
I enjoy having sex with you so we can keep doing that.
Remember, none of this is an overt communication that we've
not verbally had, like discussedwhat I just said, right?
That would be awkward. But she just kind of
understands. So at that point, I might go
threesome hunting with a girl, especially if I find out that
she's interested in in other women and that sort of stuff,
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which will be kind of obvious based on, you know, how she
checks out other girls or she'lldrop little hints here or there.
So I'm going to tell you three different stories of the three
different sort of frameworks forhow you can have a threesome.
The first one is how you can have a threesome with your
girlfriend. The first time I did this I was
in my late 20s. It was before the girl that I
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mentioned who was the pharmacistand this girl, I, I found out
she was interested in other women because we watched that
movie called Hall Pass and she expressed interest in having a
hall pass, which is basically like a day off from their
relationship. And we said, OK, we'll, we'll do
that. She hooked up with this
Australian and told me all abouthow he destroyed her and how he
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had the world's biggest Dick andthat, that was fantastic.
Let me tell you, that was prettybrutal.
Luckily I got even and I had a hall pass, right?
I hooked up with a girl while I was giving a, a presentation in
Miami. And you know, we were both
jealous, but we dealt with it. So that was a, a tough pill to
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swallow, you could say. But a very important lesson
learned that I was actually ableto, to create that setup.
And then that paved the way to us having a threesome in Vegas.
Not long after we went out to a nightclub, Dre's after hours in
Vegas and it was just like luck would have it.
Some girl walked up to us and she was we were flirting with
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her and I did the job of kind oflike opening her first, which is
what most guys screw up. They try to get the girl to do
all the work. But I opened this girl and I was
like flirting with both. But obviously I had my
girlfriend in tow so I had that pre selection from her.
We ended up hooking up that night and you know it was it was
cool. I had some sexual dysfunction
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because I was too nervous, but managed to, you know, at least
have that cross it off the the bucket list for the threesome.
The next threesome I had was a few years later.
This was a girl I met through mysocial circle.
She was actually like staying with us.
We had an Airbnb place in LA that we we rented and we
subletted on Airbnb back in like2013 when, when that was totally
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not something everybody did. But she stayed with us.
And overtime, I didn't really like try to go for her, make any
moves because I knew that she was, you know, this hot, like
bottle service waitress and every guy was hitting on her.
So I just kind of waited. I waited until she, you know,
was kind of like tipsy one nightand she like found me at in the
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house when all the other guys were kind of hitting on her.
And she's like, hey, let's smokeweed together.
So I'm not really a weed smoker,but she smoked weed and then we
hooked up and she had seen me like going on dates with other
girls. And she kind of like knew my
vibe also from my buddy who was,you know, basically telling her
like, what a, you know, a playerI am.
But so she already knew like that I wasn't interested in and
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monogamy and she was really intoother girls.
So we started going threesome hunting and one of the most
notable threesomes we had was wewere at the Abbey, which is a
gay bar in West Hollywood, very iconic gay bar that most people
have been to at some point or another.
On a on a trip to LA and there was this cute girl there.
And I walk up to her and I had my girlfriend on my arm and I
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said hey 3 random questions for you.
The 1st Do you find us each independently attractive?
And she's like, yeah. And I said, do you have a
boyfriend? And she said no.
And I said, well, what's your excuse for not making out with
us right now? And then I pushed her head with
my girlfriend, said they startedmaking out.
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And then I kind of started making out with her too.
And then the three of us startedmaking out.
We ended up going back home, hada wild and crazy threesome.
The girl at the end kind of got,I don't know, a little bit
spooked or something because my girlfriend tried to tried to
basically do some like butt stuff with her which is quite
funny. This girl like ran out of the
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house, jumped into her car naked, drove her car home back
to the Palisades and crashed into a parked car right in front
of her house. She called us the next day with
the story. It was, it was good that she
called obviously, because we knew that she wasn't obviously
that freaked out. And then she came back that next
night and we had another threesome and the butt stuff was
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was done too. So that was fun.
The last threesome story was with two girls that I was
casually dating. So neither of these girls were
my girlfriend. They both knew that I was like,
basically, you know, not in any sort of monogamous
relationships. I was, I was kind of a digital
nomad at the time. They both lived in New York and
I was splitting my time between New York, LA and Europe.
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So when I was in New York, I'd see them, we'd hook up and I
would always tell them about my crazy adventures.
And at one point I was like, Hey, you need to meet this other
girl because I feel like you guys would really hit it off.
You're both spiritual and you'reinto like numerology and, and
all this sort of like spiritual girl chick crack stuff that I
talked about all the time in the, in the, in the IC
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the place for you. So we met and I went to a bar.
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I invited both of them. They both knew and went back to
my place. And we had just like probably
the best threesome I'd ever had because there wasn't any
pressure to like give one girl more or less attention because
both of them were kind of at that, at that same level in
terms of commitment and proximity closeness to me,
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right? When you have a threesome with
your girlfriend, she's probably going to be like super critical
and, and worried that you're going to spend more time with
the other girl. Maybe you're going to come with
the other girl, right? And so you want to manage that
and obviously don't do that because it's going to cause
drama. But both of these girls were
like, really, I like them both the same.
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They both liked me kind of the same.
They both liked each other. And when you can get that
amazing chemistry where it's like everybody likes everybody
kind of the same, then those make amazing threesomes when
it's very actually hard to do that because most of the time
there's like two people that arereally more into it and one
person kind of feels left out. As a guy, I recommend it's, it's
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better if you're the one who feels a little bit left out.
You know, obviously it's bad foryour ego, but you'll learn over
time how to get better at that and how to not be like the
thirsty guy and push that. And then what will happen is
eventually the girls will be like, all right, we need some,
we need some Dick because you know, it's great to do the
carpet munching, but after a while, like we need some cock.
So at that point then they'll really like want your
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involvement, but you have to youhave to stay patient.
So I don't want to get too in the weeds with the insurance and
outs of of that, but, you know, leave me a comment if you're
interested in that stuff and I'll figure out how to get you
that information. So once you have done that,
right now, your frame is much stronger.
You're the type of guy who has threesomes.
You're not like intimidated by that.
If you're then looking to like take it even further, if you
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want like group sex, you know, orgies, hooking up with porn
stars, whatever, It's time to develop a social circle of these
sexually liberated women. And the best way to do that is
go where they go. And really easy to find that.
And in the big cities like LA, New York, San Francisco, Miami,
Europe, you go to sex parties, right?
And most sex parties are relatively easy to find.
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You know, they kind of advertiseand it's going to be the 8020
rule, right? 80% of the people are going to
be like, not people you want to hook up with old, maybe not
unattractive, not not the best looking crowd, but 20% will
probably be the people that you do like.
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So first time I ever went to a sex party, I went with that same
girl who I mentioned that I had the second threesome with and
many, many subsequent threesomeswith later and it was a mansion
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party in LA. We went with my buddy and his
girl and we had never like swapped girls or done anything
like that and we weren't about to either.
That would have just been a little bit weird between him and
I and and those girls, although the girls probably would have
been down. Girls tend to like just kind of
follow, follow the leader if you're, if the guys are
comfortable with it, usually thegirls can get behind it,
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especially if they're bi curiousor bisexual.
So, you know, it was a little bit surreal being there.
And we didn't hook up with anyone else, but we did have sex
in this, like, mirrored room where a lot of people were
coming and going. So it was our first time kind of
being like exhibitionists. And at one point, some guy tried
to like, come over and get involved.
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And I had to like, gracefully tell him, no, sorry, she's not
really into that. You know, it forced me to, to
get more confident in terms of communicating with people,
especially in that environment. And we had a good time.
You know, neither of us really pushed each other to do do
anything wild or crazy that likemade us feel more comfortable.
And we just kept going back. And over time, we started
getting invited to private sex parties from hot couples
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because, you know, they're like,OK, these people are hot.
They're young and cool and fun. And we were invited to like a
birthday party by this one couple.
They had three kids and the kidswere, you know, off at summer
camp. They had a big pool in the
backyard and there were like 10 other couples there.
They're all hot, They're all cool.
And that was like a crazy amazing afternoon, which turned
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into very late evening and morning by the time we left.
And our social circle of these just like couples.
And there were a lot of unicornsin the space too.
A Unicorn is like a single girl who goes to these sorts of
things because it's, it's a way for them to sort of exercise
their sexuality without, you know, the constraints of a
boyfriend, right? They know, like these guys are
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in relationships, they're not going to, like, seek them out.
So it's kind of a safe place forthem to explore.
And when you build a social circle of these types of people,
it's interesting who you meet. It's typically very successful,
high net worth dudes who have game and who also have the
resources to like pull this sortof thing off.
And the best way to to network with these sorts of guys is to
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bring value in the form of, you know, beautiful women, right?
Like every guy in the position of power and you know, and they
have resources, money, like theyall typically want more women,
especially if they're in open relationships or whatnot.
And by being the guy who has access to that, that is the
fastest way to network. And obviously if you have sex
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with the in the same room with the guy, you're gonna get gonna
get to become friends pretty quickly.
And then, you know, who knows what sort of business deals will
come from that or other amazing opportunities in your life,
right? The the axiom from Scarface is
first you get the money, then you get the power, then you get
the women. But in reality, the way it
worked for me, and I think most guys is first you get some money
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and then you learn how to be very good with women.
And then you're able to transactwith high net worth guys by
showing, but like game recognized game.
And these guys understand you'recool because you have this
access to girls and they see youwith hot girls and you're
validated because of that. And then they want to get to
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know you. And then you use that to get
money and then you get power andthen you get even more of the
women. So I think developing your
social skills and not being the like nerd who gets really rich
and has no social skills and then becomes like a sugar daddy
and he gets taken advantage by girls.
And that's no good if you go that route.
So the last thing I did in termsof like the things I always want
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to cross off my sexual bucket list was I had sex with a few
different very well known porn stars.
The way I met the first one was at one of these Vegas sex party
hotel takeovers and she happenedto be there with her boyfriend.
I think they're married now and they have a kid together.
But this is when they were stillfirst dating and he was her
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manager and they were at the party.
They quickly recognized me and my girlfriend as two of the
better looking people. And we kind of found our little
crew of people had our own little private thing.
And me and the girl, you know, we connected really well.
And at one point, you know, her,her dude was like, hey, if you
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want to like take Ariana and, you know, just have some fun
together without like the big group thing, like you're welcome
to do that. And I was like, yeah, well,
you're welcome to do the same with my girl.
And so we kind of did that swap and that was, that was wild,
right 'cause this is a girl I'd seen in lots of things.
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And then I ended up having sex with some other really well
known porn stars in Eastern Europe.
When I moved to Ukraine, I developed a social circle both
there and with some other girls in Budapest, 'cause I traveled
back and forth to Budapest quitea bit.
And Budapest is kind of well known as the capital of Eastern
European porn production. It's kind of like the Van Nuys,
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the Valley of Europe. And I met these two women at a
friends birthday party because he was friends with one of the
biggest producers in Budapest and she brought the girls and I
sort of like massaged those relationships over a series of a
few months. I came back to Budapest and then
I saw them at another buddies birthday party in Cyprus.
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And I wasn't pushy. I wasn't a fan boy, but I go,
well, this is poor stars. Like I didn't really give them
extra attention or anything likethat.
It was just flirty and normal. And sure enough, as I played the
long game, they both expressed interest and invited and wanted
them to like, you know, a night out in Budapest with some other
friends and some other girls. And, you know, we went to
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dinner, then went to a club, andthen we hung out.
And then afterwards everyone kind of left.
And then I hooked up with one ofthese girls.
And then kind of the same thing happened in Kiev when one of
them was visiting a few months later.
So the last thing on my sexual bucket list was joining the Mile
High Club. And for whatever reason, you
know, I had the opportunity many, many times travelling with
girlfriends, but I always had too much anxiety because, you
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know, go in the in the lavatory in the back and you get, you
know, you're worried that someone's going to, you know,
someone's going to catch you or something's going to happen,
right? It's not like they can really do
anything. But it was like a fear of mine.
So at one point I was travellingon a party trip.
It was another guy's birthday and we are flying from Kiev to
Cyprus again. It's very fun to party in Cyprus
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if you bring a bunch of hot girls with you and cool guys.
But there were two girls that I had hooked up with before who
had hooked up with together. We had had a threesome together
anyways, so I was like, Hey, let's all go join the Mile High
Club in the tiny little bathroomin the back of the commercial,
you know, airliner. It was fly UIA or, you know, it
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was the Ukrainian International Airlines and they had two hot
flight attendants and I wasn't like worried that they were
going to like bust me. So my anxiety was cured.
We we went into the lavatory, had a fun little threesome in
there. Cross that one off the bucket
list and now I have a funny story to brag about.
So that is the sort of progression on how to have these
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experiences. And obviously you start by
learning to hunt. You learn how to have a better
frame by setting up these open relationships.
Remember, don't do it overtly. Do it more covertly, Show versus
tell. And if you have to tell, be the
one to tell before she has to ask you.
And then you'll, you'll have a pool of girls who are open to
these crazy things. And then you start doing them.
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You have the confidence to actually go out and do them
right. Push your comfort zone, have
fun. Girls are always looking for
guys who are like willing to, toget them into crazy stuff,
right? It's hard for them to find guys
like that, believe it or not. And that's why they say like the
top 5% of guys have all the girls because they're doing
these sorts of things. Then you develop a social circle
of more of these girls. And then once that happens,
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it's, it's quite easy to explorewhatever you want to explore if
you want to be in a monogamous relationship, just like I did.
You know, later when I met my wife Maria, I had done all this
stuff. So I like didn't have these
nagging voices in my head saying, Oh, Robbie, you, you
shouldn't commit to anyone because you haven't done all
those things. And like, because I've done
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those things, they lost their their luster, right?
It's like, it's cool to drive a really fancy sports car a few
times and then you're like, OK, it's just, it's just a car after
a while. That's the same thing I
experienced with like the group sex threesomes and porn stars
and all that sort of stuff. It's like it's cool and it's
novel and it's just fun. But after a while, you know, it
is what it is. And I kind of got older, grew up
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and wanted to, you know, have a normal relationship, have a
family and not really give a shit about that stuff anymore.
But that sabotaged me from a lotof those earlier relationships.
Had I done all that stuff in my 20s or early 30s, you know, it
maybe I would have been ready for that sooner.
I wasn't ready to do any of thatstuff until I wasn't ready for a
monogamist long term relationship until I was like 38
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because it it took me all throughout my 30s to accomplish
all of those sexual goals that Ihad to not be, you know, having
the grass is always greener conversation when you're in a
relationship and you're wishing you're single and able to like
pull a bunch of girls. So hope that was informative.
That's how you do it. And if you have any questions,
drop a comment. See you in the next episode.
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