January 14, 2025 • 9 mins
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Today, we're diving deep into a fascinating personal story —a night that transformed my understanding of social dynamics, dominance, and female psychology. In this episode, I recounts a wild night in Vegas that started at Dre's nightclub and ended with an adventurous twist at the Bellagio. Along the way, I share the critical insights I gained about sexual fantasies, leading with confidence, and creating spontaneous, thrilling moments in a relationship. Plus, I offer actionable tips on how you can replicate his three-some formula and enhance your dating life.
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(00:00):
In 2011 I was in a monogamous relationship.
My girlfriend and I went to see the movie Hall Pass, which is
about a couple giving each otherpermission to effectively sleep
with other people, and that movie gave me the confidence to
bring up some taboo topics around sex with her.
We ended up talking about threesomes and agreed we both
wanted to try a female female male threesome.
(00:21):
I was relieved she didn't want amale, male, female arrangement
because that would have been offthe table for me.
Shortly after, we went to Vegas and headed to Dre's nightclub,
which was known as the Premier After Hours nightclub.
You know, I'm back in 2011. I still think it's pretty good
though. My plan was simple.
Find an attractive girl, walk upto her with my girlfriend and,
(00:42):
you know, mention that my girlfriend liked her outfit and
had a small crush on her. So I did exactly that and the
girl flashed a kind of devilish smile.
She asked me a first question. So what are you guys thinking?
Threesome. Today while seductively touching
my girlfriends arm, they startedchatting.
I ordered drinks. You're listening to the Inner
confidence podcast. My name is Robbie Kramer, I've
(01:04):
been a coach since 2007 and I'vehelped countless men rapidly
achieve all of their social and dating goals.
My mission is simple, to help you position yourself to meet
stunning women, make awesome friends in route to becoming the
most confident and attractive version you can possibly be.
I am obsessed with giving you the most leveraged ways possible
to win the game. So stick around, let's go.
(01:25):
By the time I close my tab, the two were already flirting and
kissing. The New Girl, let's call her
Gina, told us she needed to grabher bag from the VIP section and
then she'd come back with us to our hotel room at the Bellagio,
which was just across the strip.Navigating to the VIP section
got confusing and somehow we gotseparated.
My girlfriend and I decided to split up and find Gina, which
(01:45):
turned into a bad idea because we also lost each other.
Our phones weren't getting reception in the basement level
club, but by pure luck I spottedGina and then saw my girlfriend
a moment later. I took them both by the hand and
marched out of the club. On our walk back to the
Bellagio, we passed the poker room which was still buzzing at
4:30 in the morning. The girls were getting pretty
touchy feely and that caught theeye of a guy smoking in front of
(02:08):
the poker room. Gina stopped to fix her heels
and this guy started chatting her up, clearly spitting some
solid game. She was instantly drawn to him,
and I could feel that threesome opportunity slipping away so
quickly. I told my girlfriend to go over
and make out with Gina and basically drag her by the hand,
you know, away. And she did exactly that.
(02:30):
The crisis was averted. We finally made it up to our
room, and from there, things went smoothly.
Let's talk about the insights. So this experience taught me a
lot about female psychology and social dynamics.
First, I learned that I shouldn't be shy about
discussing sexual fantasies withmy partner.
If not for that movie hall pass,I doubt I would have found the
courage to bring up bringing someone else into our
relationship. I used to assume my girlfriend
(02:50):
would be angry or hurt if I mentioned this, so I stayed
quiet. But after seeing that movie, I
realized she was already curious, which made me more
comfortable talking about it. In hindsight, I could have done
this years earlier right after we started dating by discussing
fantasies. You know, during pillow talk.
And before I get in the second big take away, let me take a
shot of this magic mind. Refreshing.
(03:20):
You know, a few months ago, I realized my mental game was
slipping a bit. Work was piling up, my stress
levels were high, and I wasn't sleeping all that well.
And that's when I started thinking about mental wealth,
which is basically investing in habits that boost your
resilience across the five pillars, which are sleep, diet,
exercise, stress management, andexogenous compounds.
For me, Magic Mind has been a helpful addition to my routine.
(03:42):
It's not a magic cure, but it fits right into my plan for
building mental wealth. In the morning, I take this.
It's a focus shot, and I've noticed clearer thinking, less
anxiety, and a gradual boost of energy that doesn't leave me
kind of crashing later And at night.
I've been trying on Magic Mind'ssleep shot, which helps me sleep
much faster. And they're calling this their
24 hour pack. And for this month, they're
offering 45% off through my special link.
(04:05):
If you're ready to level up yourmental health game, check out
the link in the description. It's magicmind.com/inner
Confidence Jan So that next takeaway was the importance of
leading and taking action instead of negotiating.
My simpie mindset that I had previously told me to point out
a girl and ask my girlfriend if she found her attractive before
(04:25):
I approached. And this would have been a bad
move because it turns a fun opportunity into sort of a yes
no negotiation, which kills desire and spontaneity.
And luckily I had a mentor who'dhad lots of threesomes before he
told me not to do that, but instead to whisper to a New Girl
that my girlfriend loved her outfit and had a small crush on
her. That approach is genius because
(04:46):
it's fun, it's flirty, led by me, but it puts the focus on the
two women, it avoids jealousy and it's good if I as a guy stay
a bit on the sidelines while they connect.
That shows pre selection. My girlfriend is attractive and
I'm confident enough to approach.
This signals that I'm desirable.And ironically, it's easier to
get a threesome than a traditional one night stand when
you have a partner and the rightapproach.
(05:08):
I also learned about the power of dominance, along with the
possible risks of course. And the final hurdle was the,
you know, the stud we met at thepoker room.
Once Gina started flirting with him, almost any other reaction
for me would have failed. He might have gotten aggressive
if I tried to yank her away. I also didn't have time to waste
because the longer they connected, the more confident
he'd get. For a second actually considered
(05:29):
giving up, thinking maybe Gina wanted this other guy.
But I quickly shot down that thought because from the start
she'd ask are you guys thinking threesome tonight?
And that signaled she had a clear interest in exploring that
fantasy. So I decided to act rather than
hesitate so real quick. If you've ever gotten any value
from the show and you have some wingman or buddies that you
think would get value too, I want to make a request.
Let them know. Simply ask the.
Bros in your life, if they've ever heard of this podcast.
(05:52):
And if not, send them the episode.
That way they're going to learn exactly what you're learning
right now and. It could help you cultivate.
It perfect. Wing man.
If you decide to go as far as tagging.
Me and sharing. Me on social media please let me
know and be sure to tag me at Robbie under score framer and I
would love to say hi shoot me a line so that's my only ask today
if you've ever gotten value hereplease spread the word all right
(06:12):
let's get back to the. So how I replicated this 20 plus
times and how you can too. My girlfriend and I broke up
about 3 months later. I realized I was more interested
in exploring with other people and I felt restless in that
relationship. She was awesome but I needed to
be free. A huge mistake a guy can make is
settling down for the wrong reasons.
And if you truly crave a different lifestyle, that urge
(06:33):
will eventually sabotage your relationship.
You'll waste both your time and hers.
However, the formula for threesome is super easy to
replicate. Here's that simple approach.
So starts with early pillow talk.
After you slept with a New Girl a few times, have the sexual
fantasy conversation, then tell her she's sexy and you'd love to
see her with another woman. Gauge her reaction.
Decide if she's open to it. Don't over plan.
(06:54):
If she's excited and wants to take the lead letter, she might
set up a field profile or do something similar on another app
or website. But most women don't want to
take the lead, they want you to do it.
Don't try to discuss every detail or schedule it like a
meeting. That ruins the spontaneity.
Use the opening line. When you're out together,
approach a woman and simply whisper that your girlfriend
loves her outfit and has a tiny crush on her.
Then step back and handle the logistics while they connect.
(07:17):
And if you want something more direct you can try the three
random questions approach. So the first question is you
walk up to her with your girlfriend, you know, hand in
hand and you say 3 random questions real quick.
Do you find us both attractive? And if she says yes you say do
you have a boyfriend? If she says no, then you say so
(07:37):
what's your excuse for not making out with both of us right
now? From there, like don't.
Don't actually wait for an answer.
Just gently guide the girls to make out.
Then join in on the fun. Keep it brief and fun.
Then leave before other guys jump in as blockers.
Then trust me, that will happen pretty quickly.
Guys get pretty excited when they see two beautiful women
making out. Be prepared.
Always have plenty of condoms and Lube.
(08:00):
I'm not your high school health teacher so just say you know.
I'll just say use common sense. Don't be the guy who fumbles on
the one yard line. For the love of your you know
what you know, you don't need tobe a smooth talking Don Juan to
make any of this work, you just need to have the guts to try it.
You'll be surprised how many women are bi curious or at least
open to a female female male threesome when a confident guy
(08:23):
takes the lead. Out of all the guys I know, the
only ones who managed to consistently win the game are
those who built and invested in a high status social circle.
You can certainly approach womenand try your luck on the apps if
you're a Chad, but those strategies simply don't work
consistently to attract top tierwomen and awesome friends in
your life. But for most guys, the idea of
building a social circle can feel overwhelming, so they
(08:44):
continue to hunt for women in their usual ways and end up
settling for a girl they were never really that excited about
in the 1st place. To avoid this fate, join our
community and instantly plug into a highly vetted social
circle of cool dudes to network and navigate your journey with.
You already know it's hard to find wing men because the good
ones don't stay in the game verylong.
Many of our members travel together, end up living
together, build amazing circles and even businesses together
(09:06):
both in the West and in many of the best locations around the
globe. With gorgeous women and low cost
of living, I'm extremely carefulwho I let into this community,
but if you feel like you make a good fit, you can apply to join
the links in the description. Before we wrap, remember to grab
that 45% off deal for Magic Minds Focus and Sleep Bundle at
magicmind.com/inner Confidence Jan.
(09:26):
All right, signing off for this week.
Bye bye.
In 2011 I was in a monogamous relationship.
My girlfriend and I went to see the movie Hall Pass, which is
about a couple giving each otherpermission to effectively sleep
with other people, and that movie gave me the confidence to
bring up some taboo topics around sex with her.
We ended up talking about threesomes and agreed we both
wanted to try a female female male threesome.
(00:21):
I was relieved she didn't want amale, male, female arrangement
because that would have been offthe table for me.
Shortly after, we went to Vegas and headed to Dre's nightclub,
which was known as the Premier After Hours nightclub.
You know, I'm back in 2011. I still think it's pretty good
though. My plan was simple.
Find an attractive girl, walk upto her with my girlfriend and,
(00:42):
you know, mention that my girlfriend liked her outfit and
had a small crush on her. So I did exactly that and the
girl flashed a kind of devilish smile.
She asked me a first question. So what are you guys thinking?
Threesome. Today while seductively touching
my girlfriends arm, they startedchatting.
I ordered drinks. You're listening to the Inner
confidence podcast. My name is Robbie Kramer, I've
(01:04):
been a coach since 2007 and I'vehelped countless men rapidly
achieve all of their social and dating goals.
My mission is simple, to help you position yourself to meet
stunning women, make awesome friends in route to becoming the
most confident and attractive version you can possibly be.
I am obsessed with giving you the most leveraged ways possible
to win the game. So stick around, let's go.
(01:25):
By the time I close my tab, the two were already flirting and
kissing. The New Girl, let's call her
Gina, told us she needed to grabher bag from the VIP section and
then she'd come back with us to our hotel room at the Bellagio,
which was just across the strip.Navigating to the VIP section
got confusing and somehow we gotseparated.
My girlfriend and I decided to split up and find Gina, which
(01:45):
turned into a bad idea because we also lost each other.
Our phones weren't getting reception in the basement level
club, but by pure luck I spottedGina and then saw my girlfriend
a moment later. I took them both by the hand and
marched out of the club. On our walk back to the
Bellagio, we passed the poker room which was still buzzing at
4:30 in the morning. The girls were getting pretty
touchy feely and that caught theeye of a guy smoking in front of
(02:08):
the poker room. Gina stopped to fix her heels
and this guy started chatting her up, clearly spitting some
solid game. She was instantly drawn to him,
and I could feel that threesome opportunity slipping away so
quickly. I told my girlfriend to go over
and make out with Gina and basically drag her by the hand,
you know, away. And she did exactly that.
(02:30):
The crisis was averted. We finally made it up to our
room, and from there, things went smoothly.
Let's talk about the insights. So this experience taught me a
lot about female psychology and social dynamics.
First, I learned that I shouldn't be shy about
discussing sexual fantasies withmy partner.
If not for that movie hall pass,I doubt I would have found the
courage to bring up bringing someone else into our
relationship. I used to assume my girlfriend
(02:50):
would be angry or hurt if I mentioned this, so I stayed
quiet. But after seeing that movie, I
realized she was already curious, which made me more
comfortable talking about it. In hindsight, I could have done
this years earlier right after we started dating by discussing
fantasies. You know, during pillow talk.
And before I get in the second big take away, let me take a
shot of this magic mind. Refreshing.
(03:20):
You know, a few months ago, I realized my mental game was
slipping a bit. Work was piling up, my stress
levels were high, and I wasn't sleeping all that well.
And that's when I started thinking about mental wealth,
which is basically investing in habits that boost your
resilience across the five pillars, which are sleep, diet,
exercise, stress management, andexogenous compounds.
For me, Magic Mind has been a helpful addition to my routine.
(03:42):
It's not a magic cure, but it fits right into my plan for
building mental wealth. In the morning, I take this.
It's a focus shot, and I've noticed clearer thinking, less
anxiety, and a gradual boost of energy that doesn't leave me
kind of crashing later And at night.
I've been trying on Magic Mind'ssleep shot, which helps me sleep
much faster. And they're calling this their
24 hour pack. And for this month, they're
offering 45% off through my special link.
(04:05):
If you're ready to level up yourmental health game, check out
the link in the description. It's magicmind.com/inner
Confidence Jan So that next takeaway was the importance of
leading and taking action instead of negotiating.
My simpie mindset that I had previously told me to point out
a girl and ask my girlfriend if she found her attractive before
(04:25):
I approached. And this would have been a bad
move because it turns a fun opportunity into sort of a yes
no negotiation, which kills desire and spontaneity.
And luckily I had a mentor who'dhad lots of threesomes before he
told me not to do that, but instead to whisper to a New Girl
that my girlfriend loved her outfit and had a small crush on
her. That approach is genius because
(04:46):
it's fun, it's flirty, led by me, but it puts the focus on the
two women, it avoids jealousy and it's good if I as a guy stay
a bit on the sidelines while they connect.
That shows pre selection. My girlfriend is attractive and
I'm confident enough to approach.
This signals that I'm desirable.And ironically, it's easier to
get a threesome than a traditional one night stand when
you have a partner and the rightapproach.
(05:08):
I also learned about the power of dominance, along with the
possible risks of course. And the final hurdle was the,
you know, the stud we met at thepoker room.
Once Gina started flirting with him, almost any other reaction
for me would have failed. He might have gotten aggressive
if I tried to yank her away. I also didn't have time to waste
because the longer they connected, the more confident
he'd get. For a second actually considered
(05:29):
giving up, thinking maybe Gina wanted this other guy.
But I quickly shot down that thought because from the start
she'd ask are you guys thinking threesome tonight?
And that signaled she had a clear interest in exploring that
fantasy. So I decided to act rather than
hesitate so real quick. If you've ever gotten any value
from the show and you have some wingman or buddies that you
think would get value too, I want to make a request.
Let them know. Simply ask the.
Bros in your life, if they've ever heard of this podcast.
(05:52):
And if not, send them the episode.
That way they're going to learn exactly what you're learning
right now and. It could help you cultivate.
It perfect. Wing man.
If you decide to go as far as tagging.
Me and sharing. Me on social media please let me
know and be sure to tag me at Robbie under score framer and I
would love to say hi shoot me a line so that's my only ask today
if you've ever gotten value hereplease spread the word all right
(06:12):
let's get back to the. So how I replicated this 20 plus
times and how you can too. My girlfriend and I broke up
about 3 months later. I realized I was more interested
in exploring with other people and I felt restless in that
relationship. She was awesome but I needed to
be free. A huge mistake a guy can make is
settling down for the wrong reasons.
And if you truly crave a different lifestyle, that urge
(06:33):
will eventually sabotage your relationship.
You'll waste both your time and hers.
However, the formula for threesome is super easy to
replicate. Here's that simple approach.
So starts with early pillow talk.
After you slept with a New Girl a few times, have the sexual
fantasy conversation, then tell her she's sexy and you'd love to
see her with another woman. Gauge her reaction.
Decide if she's open to it. Don't over plan.
(06:54):
If she's excited and wants to take the lead letter, she might
set up a field profile or do something similar on another app
or website. But most women don't want to
take the lead, they want you to do it.
Don't try to discuss every detail or schedule it like a
meeting. That ruins the spontaneity.
Use the opening line. When you're out together,
approach a woman and simply whisper that your girlfriend
loves her outfit and has a tiny crush on her.
Then step back and handle the logistics while they connect.
(07:17):
And if you want something more direct you can try the three
random questions approach. So the first question is you
walk up to her with your girlfriend, you know, hand in
hand and you say 3 random questions real quick.
Do you find us both attractive? And if she says yes you say do
you have a boyfriend? If she says no, then you say so
(07:37):
what's your excuse for not making out with both of us right
now? From there, like don't.
Don't actually wait for an answer.
Just gently guide the girls to make out.
Then join in on the fun. Keep it brief and fun.
Then leave before other guys jump in as blockers.
Then trust me, that will happen pretty quickly.
Guys get pretty excited when they see two beautiful women
making out. Be prepared.
Always have plenty of condoms and Lube.
(08:00):
I'm not your high school health teacher so just say you know.
I'll just say use common sense. Don't be the guy who fumbles on
the one yard line. For the love of your you know
what you know, you don't need tobe a smooth talking Don Juan to
make any of this work, you just need to have the guts to try it.
You'll be surprised how many women are bi curious or at least
open to a female female male threesome when a confident guy
(08:23):
takes the lead. Out of all the guys I know, the
only ones who managed to consistently win the game are
those who built and invested in a high status social circle.
You can certainly approach womenand try your luck on the apps if
you're a Chad, but those strategies simply don't work
consistently to attract top tierwomen and awesome friends in
your life. But for most guys, the idea of
building a social circle can feel overwhelming, so they
(08:44):
continue to hunt for women in their usual ways and end up
settling for a girl they were never really that excited about
in the 1st place. To avoid this fate, join our
community and instantly plug into a highly vetted social
circle of cool dudes to network and navigate your journey with.
You already know it's hard to find wing men because the good
ones don't stay in the game verylong.
Many of our members travel together, end up living
together, build amazing circles and even businesses together
(09:06):
both in the West and in many of the best locations around the
globe. With gorgeous women and low cost
of living, I'm extremely carefulwho I let into this community,
but if you feel like you make a good fit, you can apply to join
the links in the description. Before we wrap, remember to grab
that 45% off deal for Magic Minds Focus and Sleep Bundle at
magicmind.com/inner Confidence Jan.
(09:26):
All right, signing off for this week.
Bye bye.
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