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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Good evening, and welcome to Here's to Life with Zemma
right here at Intellectual Radio dot com. And I certainly
hope that you are right there listening to this show.
Because of course we have our Miss Pamela Wilks with
us this evening, our relationship enthusiasms, and then we have
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joining us by phone a wonderful, wonderful friend of ours,
Miss Bonnie Thompson, who absolutely well Bonnie Thompson Ford, who
is just absolutely phenomenal as far as relationships are concerned.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And she.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Attended the Art Institute of Chicago. She graduated in nineteen
eighty three from Chicago State University with a master's degree
in science and education. And she is the author of
Mono Connected to Source Energy. So she's kind it's gonna
be a very very interesting conversation because I told her,
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you know, Pam always we always talk about relationships and
which people love it because Ed and I talked a
lot about some of that even last week. But the
relationship connected with today as opposed to years ago, and
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she talks, she's gonna talk a little bit about AI
and that kind of connection, and so it's going to
be a very very interesting conversation with her the mono
connected to source energy. That's going to be interesting. And
then this was an introductory to an ongoing sea call
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designed to relieve stress to or disorders for children and parents,
and the major objective was to move the mindsets to
a higher state of consciousness and effort to overcome life's encounters.
And with everything that we're going through today, that's gonna
be kind of important to discuss. And Pam said she
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has a couple of questions, interesting questions to ask her too.
So we're kind of excited. W what do you think
it that you you you were like that you're kind
of feeling you've kind of heard a little bit about Bonnie.
What what kind of questions do you think.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
That you, you know, have for her?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Well, I think I'll ask her about changing the the
current spirit attitude to the changing world. The world is changing,
but we have to change with it.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And that's where she's talking about too.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
And in order for us to deal with the distress
that we having now, which is different, you have to
change your mindset as your relationship has as to how
you see the world in your and your role in it. Right,
so we have to to deal on that level too.
So it's it's it's a changing dynamic that we have
to deal with, but we have to deal with.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It because that's our job.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Yeah, so and so we as a reason why things
are happening the way they are, and we have to
make sure that we are we are in control of it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Now, if you have any questions too, we want you
to make sure that you call seven O eight two
two three eight nine five three if you have any questions.
I think that would be great for you to be
able to call in, uh, because this is gonna be
a good conversation and paying what you wanted to ask her?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What were you thinking?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Well, a lot of things. Is you piggyback on what
Ed was talking about? Is about you the individual. We
we have to uh be very conscious of how we think,
how we feel, and how we think about how we
feel about what we think about. And I think that
might be something that I'm interested in learning. From a
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professional standpoint, I speak a lot generally because, like I say,
I make no excuse for it, but I don't have
any degree or anything like that exactly exactly exactly, and
I speak from experience. I speak from the fact that
I've been on this planet for the length of time
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that I've been on this planet.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
I know what I know, and I say what I say.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And they all will yes.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
But it's always so interesting to hear scientific and intellectually
what other people have learned, and so I'm interested to
hear that. I'm very interested also in our state of
mental health, because mental mental unstability is real. It is,
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and there's so many reasons for it, and we have to,
in my opinion, address that so that people can get it,
so that we can be able to do something about.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
It and be able to function correctly, because it is
a lot of people going through mental health and sometimes
they're in denial about it, and they really really are.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Well more than that, you don't realize that you're under
stressed because you're doing what you do.
Speaker 6 (05:29):
You know, your life is what it is.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
You're taking care of your business, you're taking care of
your family, you're taking care of you think you're taking
care of yourself. But from a psychological standpoint, I think
it's good for us to know what mental stress and
when you're going through certain things look like.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And you really do have to be mindful and I
tell people that too. About making sure or that through
all things, no matter what you're doing, you have to
still be conscious and make sure that you take care
of yourself.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
Absolutely, that's self care again. Self care is real. I
always say that, in my opinion, we've been giving the
raw deal. When you say you're taking care of yourself,
it's like you're vain or selfish, but it's not. Because
you cannot successfully take care of other people if you
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cannot take care of yourself. Absolutely, and so that's one
of the things we need to do, in my opinion,
take a shift or make a shift in how you're
thinking about when you're taking care of you.
Speaker 6 (06:41):
You know, you are the most important person.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
And I say it all the time Biblically, you know,
love your neighbor as yourself, but you cannot love your
neighbor if.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You don't love yourself. That's true, that's the truth.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
How we have to really embrace that because without those
without that mindset, you know, we miss it. Yeah, we
missed it, and then we wind up becoming ill and
and all kind of issues because we missed the fact
that you got to take care of yourself. And that's
with everything that's with our mates and we've talked about
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that before. We're just talked about that earlier. That you know,
it's a blessing if you have a mate that's in
tune and knows what's going on and can take care
of you if you have a problem and that you're
in tune to make sure that in order to take care,
like with me, if something happens and it gets down
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and out, you know, I have to make sure that
I'm able to make sure that he's okay. But then
in doing so, I got to make sure that I'm
good because otherwise, you know, you wind up in a
very very awkward position.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
But anyway, the other thing too, I wanted to ask
her if we can don't pass that up as that
quantum thought.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, that's what you're gonna talk.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
About is very very important, very very to your being,
is how you think and how you feel about you.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And I think that's what what that's kind of what
Ed was was talking about too.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I think we think we should all be and what
she is doing the constant pursuit of the truth. Yes,
the truth is evasive. It keeps moving no matter how
many degrees you get, oh how many how long you
go to school, you're in constant pursuit of the truth.
You never have the truths, all of it. You said,
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the next step and wherever you are, you have to
keep moving on and every generation has to continue to
search for the real truth because the truth is what
you ultimately have. You have to have because that's the
only thing that would set you free, is the truth.
So we have, all of us, has been constant content
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pursuit of what the truth really is. And what did
you find out that you know more about yourself and
how you fit into the universe.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
At this time, because that's very crisp, crucial were talking
about right now, because that's what she's going to talk about,
the current as the way that it was, because you know,
right now we're in a state of well, she's going.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
To explain quantumly that's that that's important, the quantum thought. Yeah,
I really want to get a clear clarification on that. Yeah,
because she says, to assist with deeper into into relations
what what internalization right relative to the growth of our
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consciousness because the consciousness is simply your awareness.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
But I I like that word so much.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Quantum that's a good as does it becoming. They they
have to they have a relationship that that cannot end.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
They become blended as one.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, and whatever affects one affects the other immediately. No
matter what the distance is. It could be a million
miles away to the moon and back. They still have
to say, relationship.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Isn't that powerful?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Yes, that's that's the whole idea behind.
Speaker 6 (10:23):
God's everywhere, even press and everything.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
One effects one of my funeral if you if you
ten planets away, it's the same effect. There's what quantum is.
That's why we're into quantum physics. They just figured that out.
That's what they add it all about. They just found
that out. Now they got to figure out what the
proper way to use it. Now it's it goes the
startup with silly stuff like on the online.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Having babies talk.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Like it's working, because the way they're doing that is unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
The children with a new.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Toy like like iPhones, we have you get information, all
the information in the world in our pockets. What kind
of question we ask ask about soap operas and games?
When you could ask something, you could ask about the universe.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You could get.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Straight aged in school if you ask the right questions.
It's not the answer. It's the questions that we do
not have, and so we have to ask the proper question,
why am I here?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
What is my role?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
How do I how do how do I define my role?
How do I relate to other people? Who are the people?
If they look different? Why is it? Because you don't
understand that the DNA and human beings is the same
all over the world.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Everybody is related. They just don't know it.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
They spend their time pointing out the differences with still
pointing out the things they have in common.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, that makes that's the lesson we have to learn.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But we learned this slowly and hopefully we can get
it done before you destroy the whole planet.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
Yeah, well, well God's not gonna let it. Well, the
universe was.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Every now and then I stopped trying not to use
the word God. Yeah, just say the creator because there
are many.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Guns limited everybody, everybody's version of God.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
You say a word differentditionary.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yes, yes, so when you say a different Bible.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
The different Bible too.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
There's Beny and those there what three thousand religions and
everybody think they're right. So you so with the act,
what what the truth is? It's the truth. Who seeks
the truth? That which gives life is right.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But everybody thinks there's the truth.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
But life, But it contributes to life. If it doesn't
do that, the truth, it's not. You can't say you
you love life and you're constantly killing children. It's just
constantly blowing up cities. You can't do that. It makes
that intelligent. That's not intelligent life. So we have to
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point that out. If you are, then you have to
point it out, which is what they did in the
UN when certain people got to speak about what's going
on in the God the strip, they have to have
the You ain't got them walked out because they had
to express their discontent when something is wrong.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oh you better. If you don't say something, then you
are complicit.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Absolutely so so so so if you don't say something,
you're you're an agreeance.
Speaker 7 (13:31):
You.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
So we get to the age where people are starting
to be not afraid to tell the truth. You have
to stand up for the because the truth is the
only thing that that will work.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
That's what I always say about her main that's what
that but what that's what makes her shows and even
her paper when she writes she's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
She's gonna tell the truth.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
She don't care what and don't give her no podium
because she gonna stand up there and tell the truth.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
But you have to because we don't have time.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
You don't have foolishness like Mary used to.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Say, Mary, no foolishness.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, we don't have no time to waste. You got
to talk about did the Bears win last night? We
don't have time for that.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But speaking about that, you running up, you're using up
all the tape taping the Bears and all that.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
He doesn't tape the games, Yes he do.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
He's watching them and taping them too. I had cleaned
it up and it looked like about five different.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Because if I ever get chan, I watched one quarter
and then I got something else to do.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Uh believe there do the whole game. Yes you can, baby,
You have plenty enough time to do that. A nice right.
So yeah, we're not gonna take away We're not gonna
take that away from the guys. Know, they're gonna watch
the game.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Football, baseball, basketball, all that. Just don't even try. This's
not a conversation.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
It is not. That's the relaxation.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, Radio, if you got any questions about relationships, give
us all.
Speaker 5 (15:05):
Yeah, we're gonna tell nothing else the way we see it, right.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Okay, Okay, So before before Bonnie, because we're gonna hear
a little song from Samurai. I don't forget my concert
October eighteen, that's coming come and coming eleven days away
right there at Suburban Comes.
Speaker 4 (15:28):
It's gonna be a really big show.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Love this possible when.
Speaker 8 (15:58):
You let it.
Speaker 9 (16:04):
Love is possible when you know let it.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
When you feel like there's no.
Speaker 10 (16:13):
Hope for love.
Speaker 9 (16:15):
You can make your dreams come true if you know.
Speaker 10 (16:19):
I just want to do you just think? You just think.
Speaker 9 (16:27):
Love is possible when you believe that you're free. Love
is possible when you embrace it with that The thing
you want is your father asking.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
Love is possible when you believe let it.
Speaker 10 (16:58):
Don't believe it, and don't you.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Don't believe me? You again, you just swiping.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
For up.
Speaker 10 (17:13):
And you know that love is Oh, no, mine.
Speaker 9 (17:21):
Love this is possible. No, love this is possible.
Speaker 10 (17:34):
No, don't you give me?
Speaker 6 (18:15):
Because was really love?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
You know you got Well, We're bye, We're back.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
You're here at intellectual Radio dot Com with Here's to
Life with zimmer on Ed and we hope that you've
enjoyed our first half of our show, and now we
have online uh MS Bonnie Thompson Ford, Hey.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Bonnie, Hello, Hello, how are you?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
We're real good?
Speaker 8 (18:43):
How are you doing?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Great?
Speaker 8 (18:45):
Dear, so good to be with you.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Oh and thanks for joining us. I know that your
schedule is awfully busy. And we got we got ed
with us and then we have our relationship enthusiastms Pamela
Wilkes are.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
You I'm fine? How are you both.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Good?
Speaker 8 (19:08):
It's been a while, So.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Bonnie, we were we talked a little bit about you
and we're going to you know, jump right into our conversation.
I did post that we uh that you would have
a very very interesting conversation and ed and uh Pam.
They've written down a couple of questions that they like
you to answer or address. I say, but what I
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would like to do first is you just tell us
just a little bit about what you're currently doing.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
That makes everything so significant.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
We know that you you know, you work with UH
children and parents regarding and regarding uh you know, their
stress disorders, so and mental health, which is very very
needed and very important. That's one of the things that
we were just uh talking about So I just want
you to just give a little brief information on yourself personally.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Well.
Speaker 7 (20:09):
I am still involved in working with several disciplines, but
you know, sometimes we have our favorites. But all the
time that I have worked in mental health, I've learned
a lot and you also grow a lot so yourself,
you know as well. And I've really moved into a
specialty when it comes to helping us to move through
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this old age and to the new age.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
But we speak and it really.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Is it leaves a real heavy focus on building relationships,
you know, that's one of my biggies right now. And
it's just looking at things from a very deeper you know,
from a deeper mindset, so to speak, which is.
Speaker 8 (20:56):
Not always easy to do.
Speaker 7 (20:58):
You know, it takes a lot of time. I'm in
a lot of patience and sometimes forever, but that's where
I am right now because I feel that it's so needed.
So I'm still in the middle health field. But I
always keep that the idea of self awareness being so
important because that's kind of where everything starts, and you know,
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it begins with us, and so self awareness is the
issue with everything. It streams through all of my work
to tell you the truth, because I'm finding out that
that's the beginning, that's where we you know, we begin
and we can start to think about well what about me,
you see, before I get involved in anything. And that's
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a big job too, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Because that's what we're just saying, is that you've got
to make sure that you're aware and that you take
care of yourself in order to be able to take.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Care of anyone else.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
That's for sure, that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
And then even though and we do that, a lot
of us do that, and we still have so much
more though to learn about ourselves, you know, and that's
gonna be that's just a part of the the assignment
that we have, you see, it's to find out who
we are. So it's a it's a heavy battle and
heavy journey sometimes for some of us and some of
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them sometimes it's not.
Speaker 8 (22:21):
You know, this depends on where we are.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
But finding self has nothing to do with age or
ethnic groups or who you are and all that and
how shortens haul or how whatever, how educated and all that,
it really has nothing to do with that. Finding self
is a really deep adventure into who you are, why
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you're here, all of your life experiences that have have
followed you throughout your year life and have impacted your
mindset and all of the functionality that you you know,
your pathways that you're on, uh, you know, as far
as life is concerned. So it really impacts our relationships,
oh real heavily because we don't you know, we have
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a lot of there's such a lack of understanding you
see about it all. So that's why it starts with self.
Because the more you get to know about you, I
do agree, the more you can do.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
You know, So how do you go about how do
you suggest body that we go about doing that? How
do you direct your clients to understand that first? And
then why do you direct them to be able to
find themselves?
Speaker 2 (23:35):
What would discover?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
What would you consider to be the one of the
starting points?
Speaker 7 (23:41):
Well, I think the starting point is to first recognize that,
you know, you got to recognize that you're here for
a reason. And when you stop and look at yourself
and and and begin to think about, I mean, what
are you even made of? You know, what constitutes a
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human being? And that's it gets can get really deep
because I and I really do go this way because
I ask people, what do you think that you're made of?
Other than flesh and blood and bones and flesh and
all that kind of good stuff. What else do you think.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
You're made of?
Speaker 7 (24:21):
And that's when we get into the spirit part, the
spirit realm, because you are both flesh and spirit. You know,
there's a combination there.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
And this is the.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
Part where you start to figure out, well, if I'm
flesh and for some people this is where it goes,
if I'm flesh and spirit, what is this really all about?
What does this mean? And it means that you are
actually living in human form for temporary journey here for growth,
a temporary journey. But when you actually can can better
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understand your combination of spirit and flesh, you'll understand that
you have everything within you that you need to make
this journey.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
It's already there, but.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
It's it's difficult for us to really understand that because
we've been so bombarded with so much teaching and so
many different methods and you know, ways of doing things
and all these oh my gosh, zillions and billions of
people on this planet with all these different personalities and
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free will you understand, So we have been bombarded with
all kinds of information that have impacted our mindset, you know,
with our families and the bloodlines and the DNA.
Speaker 8 (25:41):
It's just humongous. So it's a big job.
Speaker 7 (25:44):
But our creator already.
Speaker 8 (25:46):
Knew that we were going to go through this stuff.
But that's.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
No I was gonna say, so understand. That's why I
started to ask them. And actually people do start to
think about that, Well, if I'm made of that, then
how do I how do I be? I said, we
be this. This is what I call relationship building because
that relationship starts to build.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
With your spirit within you.
Speaker 7 (26:14):
You start to acknowledge what you've got inside, all that
power inside of you. Start recognizing what you have, and
it's probably been hidden or it's been you've been lost
from it or not knowing because even the parents and
people around us don't know, so they.
Speaker 8 (26:33):
Don't teach us.
Speaker 7 (26:34):
You know, they mean, well, but there's a lot that's
missing and what we're being taught to learn. So start
to start to investigate that spirit within you and understand
that the relationship starts with you getting to know the
spirit within that power that you have. And when you
get a chance to understand that better, you can start
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you know, organizing in your pathway a little bit better
and understanding why you are in this situation, why you're
encountering this kind of situation, what's happening here, Why am
I experiencing this? Why is this happening to me?
Speaker 8 (27:14):
And you will.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
Understand that a little bit better. That it comes a
lot from the need for growth and the inability to
you know, you lack the knowledge. You don't have the
understanding of magnetic energies and how they drawn to each other,
you see, because I mean it gets really big because
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of one thing we have to do. When we start
thinking about relationship with spirit. We have to start thinking
about Spirit does not have eyes and legs and bones
and hair and all that, and spirit and angels do
not have wings.
Speaker 8 (27:50):
So when we can understand.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
That spirit is magnetic energies, that's very hard for us
to want to understand, very difficult for us to go there,
you know, for all of us. But when we understand that,
we'll understand how we draw different things into our lives
because they're magnetized.
Speaker 8 (28:12):
We are built with all kinds.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Of energies inside of us, and our cosmos, in our
universe is nothing but energies and our thoughts, our energies,
our brain. You know, when people say you are what
you think, you know you get what you think. And
that's true because the energies that we put out draw
other energies that aligned with our thinking. You see, if
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you get up in the morning and you know, oh God,
everything bad is can ready happen to me, Da da
da dallah, and you keep feeling bad about it, and
that's what you're going to get, and that's what you're
telling your brain you're gonna do, and you start practicing
it and you end up living that kind of life.
And when you do the opposite, when you can take
your brain, your mindset and know that I have everything
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within me, everything I need to get, anything I want,
anything I desire, and all I have to do is
get a relationship with it.
Speaker 8 (29:10):
And know that, yes, you understand.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Am I making any making it clearer?
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Make it very clear now?
Speaker 6 (29:21):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (29:22):
But it is trying to say something that's got a point.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
I just wanted to say that at what point does
uh history, information about history, and ourselves have any type
of imprint on how we think? Because we are different people,
our d n a, our spirit is different and our
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experiences on this planet is different.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
So does it.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
At what point in your in your lecture, do you
have any room for the history of who we are?
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Yes, well, you know, there's a lot of history because
us humans that have been on this serve for many many, many,
many many years, and we've grown, we've fallen back, we've grown,
we've fallen back, and you know, and we've it's been
through a lot. And also the history of and that's
why you know that's in that song a little bit
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about the greed that we have experienced and the history
of how our thought process has.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Been really focused.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
On power and greed and undermining and finding and taking
advantage of the week and all that all that has
affected our growth and our process of thought.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
You see, because.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
When you think in terms of where we where we
came from, our parents, what did they know? What did
they teach us? They were trying to survive and they
taught us what they thought they knew. But those people
before then, what did they do? When you go back
in history and study religion and Christianity, and it's not
to throw anything under the bus, but when you go
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back and really get the real history of what some
of those things that happened way back in the past,
even during.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
The days of Christ.
Speaker 7 (31:10):
You know, when you see all that stuff, it's it's
very alarming when you study that history and find out
how many things were hidden to how the truth, okay,
was hidden and for the sake of power and greed,
you see, and those things will tell you how much
growth that we still have to do, and how it
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took us so long to just even come out of
the box, you see, and open up that lid to
try to grasp on to the truth of what really
is going on. So we have come a long way.
Our ancestors, well, oh my goodness, the things that they knew,
and a lot of them had a lot of truth
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packages they you know, we got history of our people
and all the things that they've done.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Beautiful stuff, good stuff, powerful women, you see.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
And they had a lot, a lot, a lot of
wisdom and a lot of knowledge that they tried to
pass on to us. But again, look what we have
to go through. So we get we get bombarded with
all kinds of darkness and stuff that we have a
hard time overcoming. And that's what stunts It stunts our
growth and stunts our mindsets. So we're we're in a
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point right now. I think that I see and some
of the other people that you know that work with me,
we see the world now is in the best stage
it's ever been in. And it's not from what we see.
It's because we are trans We are in a stage
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of transmission. We're moving and therefore we are you know,
we're clashing the dark in the light.
Speaker 8 (32:52):
It's clashing.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
But if the dark did not show itself, then we
would not know what we're up against. We would not
understand how much more work we have to do, you see.
Speaker 8 (33:04):
But it's all.
Speaker 7 (33:04):
Working out for the good because the light will always win.
It is going to win no matter how long it takes.
And this is where we are now.
Speaker 8 (33:13):
We're at a real, real.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
It's it's it's a season that we've never witnessed before.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
And we yeah, and so we're we're gonna win.
Speaker 7 (33:23):
All we need to do is because people are growing
and they're beginning to understand themselves better, and they know
that there's something else that they've been missing. They know
that that there they have a spirit inside of them
that's that's just waiting, just waiting for our acknowledgement. God
gave us free will, but you know that takes a
long time. But we're we're really beginning to understand. And
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if you check with the younger people, some of them
are really on a wild goose chase, it seems. But
a lot of them know better than we than we think.
Speaker 8 (33:54):
They know.
Speaker 7 (33:55):
They are grasping on to stuff, they're questioning, they're questioning,
y and Bonnie.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
I say that we should be excited because if you
if you understand what is going on, even the smallest
of change of evolution, because it is an evolution, and
we should we should be excited. We should not be
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fearful of the of the things that are happening. You know,
it's a lot of things going on in politics, a
lot of things with religion, a lot of things with
thought patterns of people doing horrendous things to themselves and
each other. True, but at the same time, we should
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be excited about what the future holes is.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
Because and it is going to be good. It is
going to be good.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
And so I think I agree with you wholeheartedly about
the energy because if you can hold that energy and
then disperse it that it is good and all good,
that's what will come back and it will be surrounded
So that's what we have to talk about more than anything,
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is your thinking positive, lovingly, wonderfully and even in your
words that you say, you know, we have to stop
saying certain things.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
I'm around that man ain't nothing working out.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
And sometimes we have to make a quick shift because
we first think about it. But then we have to
do that and then teach our young people to feel
good about what's going on.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
Yeah, I love that energy.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
You have to work through life because and embrace it,
because what's the alternative?
Speaker 3 (35:51):
You know, our alternatives. Righteous people of this plan are
taking over because when we see negativity, yes.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
Yes, well you know, light has more power. You see,
light is very powerful.
Speaker 7 (36:16):
But this has to roll itself out because it's been
the whole system, the universe, the whole unit.
Speaker 8 (36:23):
Well there's so many more universes than one, but.
Speaker 7 (36:26):
It's all been battling darkness. You know, there's been battles
that oh gosh, you.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
Know, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 7 (36:32):
But it's at the point now where our planet right
now is going through this because it's in a state
of attention, you see, and humanity is growing and the
Earth is growing at the same time. So this is
what's going on. Right now. So and like Pam had said,
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if we can just understand that we are we're going.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
Through a phase right.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
Now, and this it really is exciting, it is it's beautiful.
I'm so glad I can feel like that. You see,
and when you understand what you've got, when you know
you got all of that energy inside that you need,
that's God's energy, all inside spirit is you were born
and gifted with that, and we're just now realizing that
we have something we can use that was meant for
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us to move through all of these cycles.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
We're just really.
Speaker 7 (37:26):
Finding that out now. I mean, I'm not saying we
haven't had some displays of that, because we've had a
lot of history of people doing good things, but we're
in a phase right now where it's really really overcoming
a lot of people. A lot of people got to
get it together and pull it together and understand how
those energies work. So those are things I feel that
you know, we can help people understand and teach people
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how to go about these strategies of uplifting and understanding
their spiritual power within and also understanding that, uh, the
timing and the synchronosity is just right in place for growth,
and when we learned compassion from one another and stick
together and learn how to, you know, manipulate this thing.
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We're going to be in a good place, I would say,
and who am I to say now? But I really
believe in the next eight years or so, you're going
to see a world that you really didn't think you'd see.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
And that's a period of.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Well, you know the other thing that I like that
you said when you were talking about how you think
about when you wait a minute, just looking quick, Oh,
that you are here by design. You know, no one
is here by mistake. When I talk to young I
try to tell them that that you.
Speaker 6 (38:53):
Are destined to be here.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Do you realize and I go very graphic when your
fire ejaculated into your mother, the billions of sperms that
that was let loose, was running and traveling and traveling
and traveling, trying to get to that egg.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
And you're the one that got there.
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Exactly. You are not.
Speaker 6 (39:18):
Here by an accident.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
There is something amazingly wonderful that you have to do.
You are here by design, and so yeah, so we
need to let our young people know that you know
that they're they have I don't care how it happened.
Speaker 6 (39:39):
You were no mistake, no.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
No, And you're so right. And it's really amazing that
you said that, because I think I told somebody that
today very similar, because that's where it is. And I
also tried to frame that with how big the creator
is until all of That's why there are no coincidences,
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because those energies and and our creative oh my god,
they call it heaven, but whatever it is, I put
it like this our creator or createre whiever you want
to put it is so unique and so beautiful and
so powerful that it controls every atom, every molecule, every
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little tiny spark of energy that slows because everything is connected.
That's that's humongous, but beautiful. It's so beauty, so big,
so huge, and so there are no coincidences. You came
because it was your time, like you said, to be here.
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You got here because it was.
Speaker 8 (40:51):
For it was your time to come.
Speaker 7 (40:53):
Through that same the family that you came through. All
of that was designed, Everything was was already organized, and
you really were a part of it.
Speaker 8 (41:04):
You were a part of it, but you might don't remember, and.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
That rightly so because that was that memory. A lot
of that stuff was taking.
Speaker 8 (41:11):
Away so that we can grow.
Speaker 7 (41:14):
So and we need we came here to grow, but
never lose the thought of our connection, you see. And
I think a lot of us we got we lost it,
we lost it. We we gave a lot, We give
a lot of praise, and we go to church and
and we believe in Jesus and Christianity and all that's beautiful,
but we really have lost our connection with the universe,
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our connection with God. We are really are a part
of all that, and so we are here. That's why
a part of that is in us. That's what helps
us to navigate that spiritual pathway, you know, because all
of that stuff is within us. We were not put
here empty. We might think that we're empty. Our parents
might not have helped us to gain and sight, but
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we came here with everything we need. But even if
you're blind, and even if you're crippled, even if you
and even with autistic children, how they've labeled these kids,
these kids are gonna run earth excuse me.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 7 (42:20):
There you go, there you go. They will, they will
and they and they're gonna do a good job. You know,
they're thinking process that Really that just lets you know, though,
how much we need to learn.
Speaker 8 (42:34):
We've got even though I say I say eight years.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
When I say eight years.
Speaker 8 (42:38):
It's like a turning point.
Speaker 7 (42:39):
But we still got a long way to grow. But
I think we're going to see the turn of things
turning around where you know, we're gonna see the beauty.
Speaker 8 (42:47):
We're gonna begin to really see it.
Speaker 7 (42:50):
But those those those that they have labeled those children,
and those children's.
Speaker 8 (42:55):
Thought processes just absolutely.
Speaker 7 (42:57):
Oh my god. What they do is they think. They
don't think like we do. They're not linear thinkers, you see,
and that's what we are. We don't deal with multi
dimensional thought processes because we don't recognize that. We're energies.
Speaker 8 (43:14):
But they do.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
These autistic kids understand that stuff. So when they would
as they would teach maths, they would go and teach
what they would go and teach geometry or.
Speaker 8 (43:26):
Something really you know, really.
Speaker 7 (43:29):
Highly demonstrated, and then come back to teach you how
regular math. They go backwards into the from once the
higher state and show you and get to the lower
state of how it was created to you see. And
that's their way of thinking and their way of teaching.
They may good teachers too, but that's just there's so much,
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so much we don't know yet, you know so much.
We're learning and we're just growing and learning, and I
just love it. And you know, I'm so gratefully, I'm
so blessed, and I have so much gratitude for being
here and being able to absorb what I have and
pass it on to.
Speaker 8 (44:09):
People and help people to understand better.
Speaker 2 (44:12):
And also want to ask you about quantum thoughts.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Okay, and and with the deeper internalization relative to the
growth of our consciousness, why did you explain that?
Speaker 7 (44:33):
Okay, Well, quantum itself is actually related to what we
I spoke of earlier. It's about the magnetic uh confrontation
and the simulation of energies.
Speaker 8 (44:48):
That's what it is. And because it.
Speaker 7 (44:50):
Cannot be seen by you know, when we can't speak
stuffed a lot of us, we want you know, living
poof You got to show me, you got to prove well,
it's it's not about that. It's about spirit. And you
can't prove spirit. You have to allow spirit to be
and you have to find it and connect with it.
So the energies that exist in that whole formation, it's
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a quantum process. That's what it's called it's multi dimensional
stuff that you cannot see and can't cage up. You
can't put a handcuff on it because it doesn't work
like that. It's free to align magnetically. So and that
goes back to the energy of thought. You see, it
just lines up automatically, and we haven't learned how to practice.
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In fact, even when we learn how to meditate or
concentrate on our thoughts, we still have to practice consistency because.
Speaker 8 (45:47):
We do get off track. It's easy for us to
be get you know, disjointed. You know, you see.
Speaker 7 (45:52):
So it's the ongoing practice. Yeah, it's the ongoing practice
of being focused on You have everything there that you need,
and when you focus on that, you start to understand
that your thoughts. You're training your thoughts, you see, to
think differently, to think powerfully like the spirit that is
within you. You are connecting what they call the higher self,
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that higher part of you that knows oneness, that understands
it and sees it all the time, and it's been
implanted in you to help you to grow as a
human being. But it's a quantum process, and that means
that you have to be still and learn and allowed
to go inside and attach and connect with it. And
when you try to do that, when you make those efforts, then.
Speaker 8 (46:39):
It comes to you. It will connect with you.
Speaker 7 (46:42):
It's magnetized to you when you start thinking like that.
Speaker 8 (46:45):
But if you don't think like that, it's just like
free will. I'm not gonna bother you till you get here.
I'll let you do your thing, you know.
Speaker 7 (46:54):
But that's what it is. It's really a part of
magnetic energies. That's what quantum is. And it's relative to
how we use our mindset, which is our antennae and
our hearts and our soul. All of that stuff is connected,
you see. So when we want to do better and
we want to think better, that's when we draw the
kind of energies that we need to grow. And all
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of that is quantum. And a lot of the scientists have,
the physicists, they understand a lot of better and then
they used to think. You know, they see things differently,
is what I'm saying. They see the growth with the
with the energies.
Speaker 8 (47:28):
You see.
Speaker 1 (47:30):
So you have to have really, uh that type of mindset.
Speaker 7 (47:36):
You have to be that or you have to be
open to learn it.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Yeah, tell us a little bit about your opinion where
time is getting getting close, But I just want to
ask you just a little bit about AI. What is
your take on that at this present time and what people.
Speaker 8 (47:57):
Are doing with that? You know, what AI is is
really h It's really a beautiful thing. It is really
a beautiful thing.
Speaker 7 (48:07):
However, you know, I got however onto that, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (48:11):
It was. You know, it's generated.
Speaker 7 (48:14):
It's generated through alphabisms, you know, and that kind of thing.
So it just picks up information that it that we
have given it, you see, and and and what happens
with it is that the usage of it, We just
don't know where you know, we have to be concerned
of how we use it. And uh, but I think
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it can be.
Speaker 8 (48:35):
It's beautiful.
Speaker 7 (48:36):
It can give you all kinds of information. It can
help you to think, and it help you to grow
and think about things and research stuff. But I myself,
I like my own words when I'm writing. I like
my own words. If I if I need to get
I might ask a question to get a thought. But
I don't need it to Actually, I don't like for
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it to necessarily tell me how to write or what
to write it. But it will give me.
Speaker 8 (49:01):
Something to think about.
Speaker 4 (49:02):
You see.
Speaker 7 (49:03):
Yeah, but yeah, that's how I use it. But I
think it's a beautiful invention. But it's all going to
be here we go with humanity and and and it's
mindset and how it wants to utilize AI because it
can take it into another dark world if that's what
you want to that's why do.
Speaker 1 (49:19):
That, right, That's that's one of the things that we
do have to be conscious of.
Speaker 7 (49:24):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it can.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
Take fearful about it because it can be a beautiful
thing and you can utilize it for for uh, and
it can be very beneficial, especially with the type of
thing that we do, like with us writing, being writers
and all of that, but creative because because.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
I've asked certain questions, I mean, I love it.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
It's it's it's.
Speaker 5 (49:49):
Funny to me and it's interesting, and so I've I've
asked simple questions and it's.
Speaker 6 (49:56):
Like already what I know or already what I write.
Speaker 5 (50:00):
And I was like, I wrote, I asked a question
about a song, and I said, well, this.
Speaker 6 (50:07):
Sounds like something that I have already written or that.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
But it knows me, you know, it seems like it
knows my mind.
Speaker 6 (50:15):
AI information that you've given it.
Speaker 5 (50:18):
You said that, and that is exactly what it does.
Speaker 6 (50:22):
It does that you have given it.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
And then again going back to what you say, See,
we have to understand, realize and believe that we have
the power.
Speaker 6 (50:35):
That's why I say it's so exciting. Yes, but what
do you have.
Speaker 5 (50:43):
A class that you teach or do you have anything
where people can come and and and talk with you?
I mean, do you do you have sessions or do
you do anything like that?
Speaker 7 (50:57):
Yes?
Speaker 8 (50:58):
I do. I use I love to gather group I
love groups.
Speaker 7 (51:02):
I love group work, and I love even you know, speaking,
you know, I like speaking engagements and I will speak
to any group, anybody that especially. We're developing now what
we call a we're calling it a holistic what is
it think tank? Think yeah, think tank?
Speaker 8 (51:24):
And yeah, I'm doing this.
Speaker 7 (51:24):
This is about being about four or five guys. But
we're working on that. Yeah, that's one thing we're working
and we're putting that out to see if we can
gather some some some different mindsets to come in. And
we're gonna just just pick everybody's brain and see how
we can.
Speaker 8 (51:44):
Yeah, we're going to take what we.
Speaker 7 (51:45):
Know, some of that stuff and just allow people to
just you know, just utilize it. So that's one thing
I'm working on.
Speaker 8 (51:52):
The Other thing is that I do group work.
Speaker 7 (51:54):
I try to pull it together, you know, sometimes closed
group with small groups, and sometimes I do groups with
twenty people in them.
Speaker 8 (52:03):
So I do group.
Speaker 7 (52:04):
Work and I do individual work as well, and I.
Speaker 8 (52:07):
Do speaking engagements.
Speaker 7 (52:09):
All of this to help, you know, people that in
some of our communities.
Speaker 8 (52:13):
Let's let's be real, some people are.
Speaker 7 (52:16):
Doing some wonderful stuff with these kids, trying to do
good programs with them, but they couldn't utilize someone but
even the people that are leading them can.
Speaker 8 (52:24):
Utilize this information, they don't have it.
Speaker 7 (52:26):
You see a lot of them, Well they lack and I'll.
Speaker 8 (52:29):
Put it that way, from information that they could use
to help them do what they do.
Speaker 7 (52:33):
So yeah, but I'm available always. I always am open
to helping. That's what I live for.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
Okay, Well, Minnie, we're gonna we're going to make sure
that were you and I of course will make sure
that we stay in touch and maybe we can, you know,
put together a group for you to come and just
kind of share and talk with us. I think that
would be very interesting. And we're going to make sure
we make sure we do that. I've got uh you know,
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maybe within the next month or so, but we'll be
we'll be back in touch.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
I am so glad that you took the time to
come and join us.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
With with your spiritual self. You've always had such such
a wonderful spirit yourself, and it's always speaking with someone
that can, uh you know, benefit us as a people.
That's something that we need. So I want to thank
you so much for joining.
Speaker 7 (53:28):
Us and.
Speaker 8 (53:30):
Give me a call sometimes I am.
Speaker 5 (53:32):
I am, because I'm gonna tell you right now, if
you if you do sessions personal individual sessions, I want
to I want to come because I'm at a time
in space in my life where I would like to
sit and speak to someone, you know, because I know
that there's a lot in me that I'm not demonstrating
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that I can, and I need to speak to someone
whose opinion I respect, not that I don't. Because these
two people that are sitting right here with me right now, I.
Speaker 6 (54:07):
Can tell you. I can just say this quickly.
Speaker 5 (54:10):
I write because Ed is the first person that said
to me, Pam, you are.
Speaker 6 (54:17):
A writer, okay, and that did something to me.
Speaker 5 (54:21):
So I give him a lot and I rely on
these two to help empower.
Speaker 1 (54:28):
Me because she definitely is an excellent writer body. So
we'll make that happen for sure. So thank you for
joining us. You have a good rest of your evening.
Speaker 7 (54:39):
And we love you.
Speaker 2 (54:46):
Thank you. So you had it right here an intellectual radio.
Speaker 1 (54:53):
That was miss Bonnie uh Thompson four and we were
so I hope that you really enjoyed her. She's full
of information, she's awesome, she is ed. You said she's
a deep lady. She really is. But that's that's that's real.
It's a lot within us that we do need to
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discover who we are and to really and truly get
to the bottom of things.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
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You got to make sure if you want to. We
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Speaker 9 (57:31):
No, this is possible.