VANNGuard Truth Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Bishop Hints, and the reason why I wanted to have
her on my show is number one, she really comes
and see me.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
So I need.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Everybody out there and make sure because this show is
about calling her out too, because we're sisters. So I'm
gonna make her super comfortable by just being me normally
without the cameras, because that's what I do anyway. So
I need you all to make sure you get on
her all of the City of Praises.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Right uh huh, that's her church.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
I'm gonna need you all to be like, listen, go
visit your sister more because when you do.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
That, then I'll stop putting you on the spot. You
know that, I'll stop receiving We'll.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Start receiving one. Oh you comming, that's not that's not
an option. So let me tell you a little bit
more about her, since she's trying not to come on
the show.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Let me get it all out right now.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
So my sister Bishop Hints, known as Lynette, and I
know her me Net and that's a funny story behind that.
We'll talk about that a little later. But this woman
is such a powerful woman of God. She's about women empowerment.
She's an entrepreneur. She's a mother of five and I
think twelve grandchildren now fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
That's a shame because.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Those mean not have left two of my nephew and
nieces out of seven. So and I love y'all all,
just so you know, okay, so long as we got
that clearlyt that stop correcting me, because I want to
hear that month later. You know, Auntie stressed, so listen,
but back to you. She is an entrepreneur. Like I

(01:38):
mentioned before, she owns her own church, city of Praises
in Georgia, and she as she has been on this
ministry journey for a long time, and so even in
Detroit shouts out.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
To the d where we're both born in Detroit, she.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Has has always had a love and a passion for
God and.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Always been seeking God.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
And so today we're gonna have a really good intimate
conversation and I want you just to loosen up.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I want you to breathe through it. You know, I
don't like this stuff and anything. Oh see, y'all listen
here real quick.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Let me put the number out there, because I think
it's gonna be like some hard tire moments and y'all
probably want to get in this, sister love. So we
are taking calls, so let me first put the number
out there, and then we're gonna get into answering some questions.
And I just want you just to be who you
normally are. Okay, all right, so listen, Please call the
studio if you have any questions or comments at seven

(02:49):
zero eight two two three eight nine five three. That's
seven zero eight two two three eight nine five three. Okay,
any intrum and moving on, Lonette, Let's just start with
who Lynette is. I've talked about your accolades and that's great,

(03:14):
but who is Lonette? Well, that's a loaded questions. I
am first a woman of God. Second of all, I
am a wife and a mother and a grandmother to
a slew of people, and that is who I am.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
I am a nurturer. I love on others.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
I love just doing for others, being there for others,
and seeing others succeed, starting with my own household and
branching out to others.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
So, in a nutshell, that's who I am.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
A person that just loves to help and be there
for others. And so you mentioned help and be there
for others in order to pour it into people you
have to be poured into very much. So when you're
a pastor and you're a servant and you're a helper,
that's how you get your blessings.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
That's how you love on people.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Tell me what you need to be poured into, because
people will take and take and drain you. And sometimes
and it's true, pastors say I need a counselor counselor
say I need a counselor.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Therapist, needs a therapist.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
And I'm mentioning those people, those in those particular arenas
because those are the people that people go too and
put all their problems on for healing and then they're like,
oh I felt good, thank you, minister, and then they
walk away and you're carrying it.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
You got it with you, right, because your hart is
to serve.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So that's why it's important for you to have someone
to be like, Okay, I gotta decompressed. Now, I got
to get this out. And it may not be another minister,
whoever it might be. I just want to know how
does Lynette begin to kind of take care of Lynette?
Because you know, as you said earlier, you can't depend
on man. Menill let you down. They'll lead you astray,

(05:03):
So you can't get your feelings hurt if it's not
reciptacle right, if they don't.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Pull into you, you came back. I did this and
you didn't do that. You can't do that.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
You can't do that right, So then what do you do?
And this has really helpful for the audience. I'm gonna
say this as a woman pastor. First of all, that's
a huge challenge all by itself because this is a
male dominant genre. So therefore that carries its own weight,
and you have to be a very strong woman and

(05:32):
a strong individual to be even even to carry the
gospel as a woman, because the first thing they say
is they try to quote scripture that you and tell
you that you're not qualified and you should not be
doing this because you're a woman. You should be somewhere
sitting in the back and listening to what's going on.
But God gave us all power. He said we shall

(05:52):
all prophesy. God did not limit what his gifts and
his blessings and his callings to any one. So therefore,
as a woman pastor, I stand boldly and who I
am first of all, and I do not let any
man shun me or put me down. I have had
that happen to me several times over the years. But

(06:12):
in ministry you learn to grow and learn and you
get stronger instead of weaker when you know that this
is your calling and you know that this is your
purpose and there's nothing no one can do to stop
it if God says it.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
So women out there, if you are women ministers, don't
ever shun yourself down.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
For a man.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Don't ever do it, because you are accountable to what
God has said to you and what He has told
you to do, and you must step in it in
full force, but with elegance, and know that you have
the grace of God upon your life and no one
can stop you because God said it shall be. So
that's the first thing I say to you. The second
thing I say to you is no confidence that she

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said in the flesh. You got to depend on God.
He has to be your best friend, he has to
be your everything. He has to be your source because
when you are going through situations in ministry and you're
hearing everyone else's problems, and you got to be able
to handle that because sometimes if you're not in the
right position, and again, knowing who you are and what

(07:14):
you're called to do, because if you've stepped in someone
else's shoes as a woman or as a man, you
can't handle the burden that's put upon you. But if
you step into the shoes that God gave you, he'll
give you the grace to be able to handle it.
So in handling and talking to all the different people
and hearing all the different issues, it's a blessing to me.
I enjoy it because that's what I was called to do.

(07:35):
So it's not a weight upon my shoulders. It's actually
what wakes me up every morning that I have that
to do in my life, to bless others and to
really really my goal and my focus as women. I
love our men, but our women we carry so many roles,
we carry so many burdens, we carry so many things
with us, and there's really not always someone there to

(07:56):
be there for you, or if.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
They do, they tell your business to everybody.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I can't stand those kind of people that they know
that you confide in them, but yet they take your
business to the streets. That's wrong, or either they say
it over the pool pit. So women, just be encouraged
and know standing who you are excellent. So just you know,
I want to make sure because that was so powerful.
So it make sure you be looking at me, minister

(08:20):
to me too. Okay, they gonna see you, but I
want to see my sister because she don't come and
visit me.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Off there she goes again. I gotta do. I'm here,
I know, and that's why I'm getting it all in.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Okay, And that was, you know what, spot on on
everything in addition to you being blessed to helping others
and you standing on that empowerment and you're standing on
against adversities and that comes against you, and you stand
in faith and you got the full armor God on you,
and you go to spiritual war. You go to bed
right when you rest because that's the question, and you

(08:54):
literally avoided that. And so and I'm digging deep because
I know you and huh yeah, I'm ana put it
out there because let me tell you, no, I'm not done,
because let me tell you something real quick. This is
sister thing. Listen, you are this right here is my sister.
And I'm very territorial over her. And in addition to that,

(09:15):
I am always concerned because I am her sister. I'm
concerned about her well being. I'm concerned about her just
as much as she's concerned about you all. I am
concerned about her because at the end of the day,
Jesus needed disciples.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
They did.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
No one does this alone. No one carries that alone.
And so and also let me finish. So also, when
you are going through this and you're ministering and yet
your team, that's great. I'm not asking about that again.
I'm asking about what does Bishop do? What does Lynette
do in her time when she needs to kind of rebuild?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
What do you just say?

Speaker 1 (09:55):
I depend and rely upon God. So let me just
say fast, and I listened to my spirit. I go
into I go into my own private closet to he said,
cast all your cares upon me.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
There I give you rest.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
So therefore again in saying, when I have been overburdened,
I take it to the Lord. And that is what
I was trying to get you to say. That you
did not say, okay, because they need these words.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
You know what I mean, take it to the Lord.
Here's the deal. People.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Everybody looks well prepared and groomed on shows, But the
Vanguard show is not about the well groomed and the
famous and then whatnot. And this show is about real talk,
real conversation, being vulnerable, meeting people exactly where they're at.
And you're taking something away, hopefully from this show and
you can say, this is relatable. I got this woman

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of God here that is put together, beautiful inside and out,
will help everybody out go fight for you in the
spirit and in the physical, whatever it needs. She got
you or wipes many hats. But when you have those
many hats, there's got to be a moment and you're not.
There's a lot of us out here that wear many
hats and we may not even understand how do we

(11:13):
deal with that? And so when they hear you and
how successful you are, they're asking, probably at home, what
does she do? Because I don't know? And so you
saying take it to the Lord. That's amazing, and maybe
that's what people needed to hear. So that's what I
was trying to pull out in addition to that. And
I'm leading into this next part because I think part

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of it and I could be wrong, but correct me,
but not on my show, but edit, but no, seriously,
that's why I love. This is what we do all
the time. This is real time, like we're not practicing
like this is just real.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
There was not scripted.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
This is a leading question and it was leading into
your book, okay, because I believe that part of you
when you're kind of decompressing and you're giving, there's more
ways to serve, and there's more ways to receive than.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Just what the minister is or the pool pick.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Our spiritual walks are different in many capacities. Some people
are infants, some people are way advanced into their spiritual walk.
But there's so many different ways to serve outside of
the five fold ministry. There is a way to serve
by writing books and being the author. And so I'm
leading into that by saying Lynette is also an author,

(12:40):
and so I want you to know you are because
we claiming that in Jesus name. We don't play that.
You know, it's in the works. Definitely, you are an author. Yes, yes, okay,
that's it. And so that's just and that's that's the truth.
Don't you ever, don't don't do that, and that's what
I'm talking about. Don't do that to yourself. You are

(13:01):
an author. It's in your spirit, you got it. You're
righting an author doesn't mean the book is being published.
That doesn't make you an author. You are a writer.
You have something to give and that's what you're doing
with the book that you are currently working on. Okay,
and this is where the big sister the little sister
tries to become the big sister. But no, it's not

(13:22):
about letting have it. I'm pouring into you and it's
not about letting you have it. I'm literally pouring into.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
You right now.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
So don't start with me because we don't go there.
All right, So here we go for this show I'm
telling you. Is that the funny part. We're gonna go
to a vote for a minute. But the funny part
is no one in this area provides a township or
even I would argue and say, Illinois anymore knows me

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and have seen me like this. They see the Trustee band,
they see the you know, all these other things I've
got going on, you know what I mean, the mom
because everybody know I write hard from my son.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Everybody knows, but no one's seen this right that, no
one knows it.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
So it's funny, and I bet it's funny to everybody
out like I didn't know this this side of Victoria whoa,
because this is me and you, this is my sister,
and you will see it when this we're together, because
this is family and.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
This is how we love on each other.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Right. I love this woman so much, and I just
need to tell you. When I told her earlier, I
was like, I'm in love with you. I don't just
love I'm in love with you because I do. I'm
in love with my big sister.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I love her. And You've been such a blessing.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
And so with this book that you got coming out,
you're going to bless other people. So can you talk
to us about the book the name of the book.
I believe you got two books in your spirit, right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Let's talk about this.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Talk about the start with the first one. Well, let
me just kind of go back a little bit. I
am the founder of of Excellence Women's Ministry, so and
having that ministry just and also all contact with a
lot of women at all times and hearing about all
the things that they go through. But what all what
really radiated with me was not the fact that they

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went through, but the fact that they came out, and
they came out and and just you could not see
the scars that they went through So that really really
blessed my spirit, not only them, but myself going through
so many things in life. So and because of that,
I decided to write a book and it's called Women's Empowerment,
The Grace, the Hope and the Triumph. So and the

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book is literally it's only seven stories for the first series,
because it's going to be more than that about women
and how they've gone through tumultuous situations but they came
out triumphantly and not by the grace of God and
by their tenacity to never give up. That's the thing,
because when you're going through if you give up, it's over.
But if you choose not to give up and to
keep fighting with God's strength yours. Because we can't depend

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on our strength because it'll go away at any time.
But if we depend on the strength of God, we
can continue to move forward and make just.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Miracles out of our own lives.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
So this book is to inspire by those kind of
women who are able to grasp hold to what's going
on to them but never give up, to keep pushing,
to keep fighting, to keep going to the get to
the other side. And when they get to the other side,
the word of God says that we are overcome by
the words of our testimonies. So their testimonies is the

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huge part of this book. And then on the other
side of it, after you hear each woman's story, there's
a cute little tipbit of a different points of view
that you can look at to help to strengthen you
if you're going through that same thing. So it's a story,
but it's also a book of encouragement and words of
insight and things that help you to be able to

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navigate if you're going through that same situation. So I
pray that it blesses you all. It should be out soon.
The name of the book is Women's Empowered Grace, Hope
and Triumph, So will it will be in Amazon, it
will be in a lot of your different places that
you can gather books, but you can also be able

(17:15):
to receive it by just emailing me at Lynn Hints
at gmail dot com and I'll make sure that you
get the information to be able to get a hold
of the book. But I promise you it's not gonna
be one of those books of cliche. It's gonna be
something that you're really gonna be able to relate to
because all of us women go to things, and some

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of us don't make it out. But we want to
encourage those that are making it out. We want to
encourage those that are still going through it but are
looking forward.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
To making it out.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
So that's what this thing is important to me, to
get the word out that is never over. Just keep pushing,
just keep moving, and God will bring you through, and
he'll bring you through triumphantly. So that's what that book
is about. The other book is for the men. It's
the anchor that never fails. That is the name of
the book. And it is for men who have gone
through life and and and trying to be a good

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husband and trying to be a work you know, work,
have a good career and still stand up.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
As a black man.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Because it's featured on our black men. Because our black
men go through more than any man could ever on
this earth. They go through a lot, and they're they're
they're profiled and uh, you know, and and they're degraded
by women. And even the good men are made to
seem like they're nothing because they're sentimental and they have
feelings and they have value, you know. So women wake up,
if you've got a good man hold on to him

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because he's worth having, because it's a lot of them
out here that still need God to nurture them and
bring them together. And these are stories of men who
have gone through the same kind of all kinds of
different situations, trying to provide for their families, trying to
nurture their families, trying to be husbands, and a lot
of them weren't even taught how to do it, but
they made it through. So that's what the other book
is about. It kind of focuses on both sides. And

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I pray you be blessed by them. But you're definitely
gonna have a good read. If nothing thing else. God
bless you. Wait about God bless you were.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Stout in the minute. God bless you. Listen. Listen.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
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Speaker 2 (19:34):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I appreciate you all all the hard work you do
and all the encouragement and really just pouring into me.
I definitely want to give a shout out to want.
I know she wasn't expecting that, but I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
You know. I just want to shout out to.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
All great people that have like literally come into, you know,
my path and.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Just been a blessing.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
And and I believe in giving people their flowers while
they're here, right, So that's what I wanted to That's
what I had to do, was all my heart, so
I did it.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Amen back to that sponsorship, I'm not but.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Okay, all right, so listen, let's keep moving on. I
love those books and I can't wait to get them,
and you know I'm gonna be promoting it definitely, because
you know, I'm your biggest fan. You know I'm your
biggest fan.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
You're my hero.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
You have walked in the shoes of our mom and
you have made a phenomenal life of yourself and I'm
so proud.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
Of you, so proud of you. I don't get a
chance to.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Say it a lot, but I honor you for honoring
our mom and doing everything that you have done in
her footsteps.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Keep going, never stop. I love you with everything in me.
And even though I'm not around a lot, you always.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Are in my heart, in my prayers, and I got
your back. Nobody better than not mess with you because
I'm coming.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Wait, one man, I wasn't supposed to cry either.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Let the mom I love you. Oh, I know, shut
I think you know. It takes a lot.

Speaker 1 (21:26):
So you call me off guard because you're not the
only one that can. You got me because she's the
crying everything again, and but she got me today.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
She did. Okay, I give you your flowers.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Thank you, thank you, and uh, girl, I am and
I'm not supposed to use those words, but she didn't.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
So let's go back.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
But I do want to take a special moment to
really acknowledge mother, who's in heaven. Joy Callaway Van nature
of the family. First black woman ever elected president of
Local five twelve American Airlines, first black woman to model

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for a luxury brand vehicles and trade shows for the
Motor City.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
She broke the color lines.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
So that other women like myself could do it, and
like my niece and my sister and everybody else. And
so when you see me doing certain things, it is
a reason behind it.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's calculated.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
And I do carry our mother with me all the time,
and I always hope that that she's proud of me, right,
So thank you for that. So I get that keep going,
you know I am because I'm my mom warrior.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Yeah, my dad.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
So I love them both and they are in heaven
and I know that they are with us, and so
they radiate with us. They do, and they give us
that we need to keep going.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
They do, and if y'all try her, I'm on my way.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Okay, but they know gram Craig Craig too. But just
and then you speaking of Craig c let's talk about
Craig Cray for a minute, because now I gotta tell
a story, Oh God, because it's so funny. Come on

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me now, okay, so what happened. Take a few minutes
while she's getting that together. Oh my god, I'm just
gonna take a few minutes and just let you go know.
There's another thing that I do, and that that that
represents our mom. And it was the opportunity was brought
to me and all I thought was Mom, and I
am now the ambassador for cute in the face, sticking
the waist my late agency for one way model.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
So yeah, and we're having our first he event the
Conyer's Fashion Week. So if you are interested in modeling
and you are cute in the faith and thick in
the ways, and you even if.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
You don't believe you can do it, but you know
that something is in.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
You will help you develop all that, just calm and
you can reach us again at cute Models at gmail
dot com. Cute Models at gmail dot com, cute in
the faith, sticking the ways, We're looking for you.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Come on, amen, So.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Okay, okay, the thinking, the ways though, I love it
though the waist so that's catchy too. Is so if
you if there is someone who first of all, can men.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Do this as well? This is just for women all
they can okay.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
And then the second question is if they need more information,
can they use that Gmail?

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Can you say it again?

Speaker 1 (24:54):
So it is cute Models at gmail dot com. Please
email me and I'll get you all the information that
you need. And again, even if you've never modeled before,
but you just you cute in the face and thinking
the waist, let us worry about the rest of it.
Just come on, we're looking for you. So that means
you don't have to worry about putting a waiste trainer
on because they want you to be thick in a waste.

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We want you to be you.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
You don't need a wate trainers.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
What you're saying, you're feeling me because sometimes be hurt
and baby cannot just be transparent. Sometimes I can't breathe.
I'm like, take a little small breath. The thing is
imagine being a pool pit. One of those I think
I might have saw you a couple of times, right,

(25:40):
hoigh flash, No, that's that waist trainer. So look, let's
talk about while we let's transition back to my other
because I know you tried to deflect because I'm about
to tell the stories. You're not going to do that.
I am so listen. When we were young, speaking of
like making sure we have each other back and how
we ride for each other. You know, my sister, man,

(26:02):
let me tell you this teacher right when I was
in what was that kindergarten?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
First grade?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I gotta let people know this teacher harassed me. You
are and I literally she did. I'm seeing I'm being right.
Let's just talk about it. She did torture me. She
tortured me because Lynette came through the school first, and
she caused all kind of ruckus, and by default I

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was her younger sister. So they said, that's a Lynette
part two, so they was ready.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
But I was not a Lenette part two. I was
chilling like I.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Was when I was younger. I was just I was
very timid, chilling. Well until you got my best s
of a different story.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, But other than that, I ain't want no problems.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
And I'm really like that today. If you don't bother me,
I won't bother you. You know what I'm saying. Period, But
I know. But the thing is, this teacher kept bothering me.
And one day my son went to go pick me
up from school, and you know how they make y'all,
you know, the kids kind of line up, you know,
single file for you to file out and then you

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go ahead and parents come and pick you up or
whatever the case might be. So I lined up, and
I think I had told my mom and my sister
that this teacher was bothering me previously, and so it's
kind of like a build up. And so my sister
came and she was like, oh, I'm gonna, you know,
just grab her because.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
I think we had somewhere to be.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Whatever the case is, She's just like, I'm taking her
out of line. Let the teacher know I'm taking her,
you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
They knew her because she ever been to the school,
so they knew her.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
But this teacher had it in from my sister and
for me, so she snatched me right literally, now, I'm a.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Little one of us. What was I eight years old?
Eight or nine? Seven?

Speaker 1 (27:43):
She snatched me out of my sister hands. Why did
she do that. I don't know what came over my sister.
But baby, when I tell you don't mess with her
little sister, she meant it because that teacher felt the raft.
And you know why she felt the raf because she

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had been torturing me. She was putting me in boxes,
scaring me, throwing fakes snacks at me. I mean, when
I tell you the horrible stories that this woman did
to me, my sister came and she was my defender.
She protected me, and that is the type of sisterhood
that we have. When she said earlier, I will come
for you, she mean it because she came from.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
My teacher at seven years old.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
And crazy thing is, my sister didn't even come for
her like she you know, this lady just charged after
and it was her reaction because of what she was
doing to your little sisters.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
Correct. But here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Lynette does that for anybody she loves. She will do
that for someone she doesn't know. If someone's being wronged
and she knows it, she's going to stand up. She's
going to stand up. She is going to advocate, she
is going to get in there, she's going to try
to make right.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
That is your spirit.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
That is who you are, absolutely, and that's what God
gave you and were all reflections of God. We are
God's children and so and it's a difference between you
having that spirit and you know it, but you don't
act on it because.

Speaker 2 (29:21):
Faith with our works is dead.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
So you put the work in to make that faith move.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Tell me something.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Has there ever been a time where you just wanted
to say I'm tired? Because here's a deal. Jesus didn't.
He was at the guard. He said, I don't take
this away from me. I don't want it, you know
what I mean. And so it is nothing wrong with that.
And some people we put on our cap right and
we and but inside were like we are tired I'm exhausted, Like,

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has there ever been a time and you just like,
I am tired and there's nothing wrong with that. But
have you been tired and then felt guilty for being
tired and saying I don't Sometimes this is a heavy
load and I don't.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Like Jesus said, this is a burden. I don't want
this bird, I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Take it back, take it back, Like, have you ever
felt guilty for feeling that way?

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Well, and that's just the real, honest, just honestly. Yeah, Well, the.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Thing is, how many times have I felt like, well,
come on that. That's the honesty I'm talking about. That's
why I bring you on the show. Yeah, even when
you're helping people, it's still about you too, because you're
you're giving, and you're putting, and you're doing all these things,
and you just like, especially when you don't see your

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work come into fuition the way you want it to do,
or if you poured yourself constantly into someone and they're
still not receiving it, or there's a situation you're going
through and you still don't see a breakthrough in.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
It, You're just like, God, Okay, I quit, this ain't working.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
Lord, maybe you didn't call me to this, maybe you not,
Maybe I'm not something you know something something something. But
and then all those times that I have done that
and I have gotten to that point I literally walked
away from ministry for a minute.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Oh wow, See I didn't know that you had walked
away that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
So that But the funny thing about that little just
a little tidbit about that when I decided to walk away,
people that.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Knew me, they said, you can't hang with us. You
can't go nowhere with us.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
You say, you for real, say so you can't come
over here with us. You better figure out what God,
because we let you get us sent to hell because
you want to walk away from God. Wait wait, oh no, yes,
you mean the people that say, we're not saying, yeah,
we out here, yeah heavens Yeah, you said, y'all.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
He and said, you're going back over there.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
You're not gonna mass this moment because we already trying to,
because we're already doing this. Were only not gonna be
for you. They said, no, you supposed to be. You
get over there, you're going back.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So in that in that those moments, especially that was
it was really lonely.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
I'm like, oh, I'm about to turn up. I'm about
you know, and guy said, ha ha ha, you're.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Ready to come back. They don't receive you over there
anymore because that's not what you want. They don't even
want you.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Right, I'm like, well, okay, so I'm just gonna sit
here because I soa I said, that's being real, right,
I was just like, well, I ain't gonna do nothing
Lord and tell you move. I ain't moving til you move.
And did you like I did?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Okay? What did I mean in this? You know, ministry
for over twenty five years, and this happened.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Dealing with all the different situations again, being a woman
pastor did get dealing with congregations sometimes that you can't reach,
you know, just just all kinds of things going on,
you know, and and.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
You instead of you blame I'm me per.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
I can't speak about anybody else, but I kind of
blame stuff on myself, like, well, may if I did better,
Well why did you do that?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
I just did, That's what I because I wanted to
be exactly what God was calling.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Me to be.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
And did you feel like you didn't succeed? And so
you is that what it was okay, okay, gotcha. So
therefore I'm like, okay, well, if I'm not really doing
what God wants me to do, and i'm and i'm
and the results are not happening, then why I'm not
wasting my time? Oh wait a minute, the results are
not happening. So we're in your mind? Were you thinking
this is shit? Happened the way I have visioned it,
and so, but you were so but you didn't even

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know that you were.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
You better talk about it, talking about let the people
know because you so seed.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
You may not see seeds, but you know some plants,
some water and then it grows, so therefore you know.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
But and when you're especially you young.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Ministers, when you're young and you're doing this and you're
trying to figure this thing out, don't think you can
solve rom in a day because you cannot. You cannot
do it. All you can be accountable is for you
and doing and saying exactly what God has called you
and told you to say. Don't put words in God's mouth,
just beigs, do it and be exactly what He called
you to be, and it'll work out. Buy and buyas

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my grandma used to say, So we're not gonna worry.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Don't worry yourself. And I did.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
And we and a lot of young ministers make that mistake.
We wanted to work out the way we wanted to
work out, or we feel.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
We ain't heart God.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Well, no, I'm still annointed by God, I'm still called
by God, and I'm still in it off after all
these years, after all of the trial and error of
figuring this thing out. So keep going, as I keep saying,
keep going, You'll get there. Just keep going and trust
and believe in God, because I had to after giving up,
and I jumped right back in it and went right

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back to where God wanted me to be. Because He
knows the thoughts that He has for you, He knows
the plans that He has for you, and they are
good and not evil to get you to your expected end.
So no matter where you go in the middle of it,
just keep going on through it, and you're gonna survive
and you're gonna make it.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Let's talk about that more so.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I want to talk about that, that uh road up
and down, because even when you're in the ministry in
the world, you're just you're a human having a human experience.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
A lot and you being a.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Woman of God in the male dominant you know environment, right,
which is equivalent to even the business world in corporate America.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
Right.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
That's why they have a thing called glass ceiling. Right.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
And you have to handle a little bit differently because
you know, you got you're in the minister role. So
you can't you can't turn up, You can't be like
what you're not gonna do. You could call me for that,
but you but you can't. Right. So you mentioned the
young ministers about not giving up, and I would even

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broaden that and say for people in general, whatever your passions,
whatever you're striving, ever, don't ever give up, right, keep
fighting if he if you feel in your spirit that
if that's what you're supposed to do, do it, don't
ever give up. I don't care take fifty no's, but
that fifty one may be the yes, and you will
be able to succeed in what you're trying to do.
So never ever give up is the true story. You

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gotta keep fighting, you gotta keep believing. I don't care
nobody believe in you. Because I opened up a dance
school at the in Michigan and there was a Christian
dance school.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Nobody ever even heard of it.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
It was called a Sacred or nineteenth School of Dance,
and you can find us on YouTube, by the way.
But however, we love, we didn't give up. I refuse
my mother. Nobody believed in me doing this school I did, Yeah,
she did. And even painting the building my daddy, which
I love him so much, I miss him with all
my heart. But even he's outside painting my building, He's like, girl,

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what are you doing? I said, I'm doing what I
feel God is calling me to do because I am
a dancer as well a Christian dancer, and I opened
up a dance school and within one year we had
over three hundred students. I left my job to pursue
what God told me to do, and it was a blessing.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
We are.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
We danced from Rams Allen, a part of Vanessa Belle
Armstrong that you go on.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
We were.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
We actually even dance with ty Scott Record for Tyscott
Records before. So again, the dream is there if you
don't give up, and you don't let nobody talk you
out of it, keep going no matter what it is.
If you believe it, you will achieve it. And I
did it and I know it's the truth. So keep
going so on that, keep going right, because let's let's move.

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Let's do a deeper dive about that, because right now
you opened up a church I did called the City
of So why don't you give a shout out to
your pastor. I miss you, guys. Thank you for giving
me a moment to breathe and be able to come

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out here and see my lovely sister. If anyone is
out there is looking for a church home, we are
in the city of Kenyer's George H. Thirty two, twenty
four Irish drives this right on the little service drive
that we would love to have you. We are not
a judgmental church. We are not a church that goes
through all those changes. My thing is to get you

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to be and to walk in what God has called
you to be, not to be sitting in the pews
listening to me, but to walk in your calling that
God has called you to be.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
So I am a rejuvenator, I am a builder.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
I help you to stand in who you are and
know what God has told you to do.

Speaker 2 (38:31):
And if you're not sure, I'm here. I got you.
We can help you if you just come on the
City of Praise.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
We have love, we have concern, and we're there and
we have fun, y'all. We have a family that pray
together and stay together. We have fun there. We don't
do all those cliques. We ain't about all that money.
That money stuff. Now, you gotta have money to keep
it running. But were not about all that over there.
We're about getting the word of God to the people
that need it. And if you need it and you're

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near Conyors, Georgia, or you're willing to drive, come on,
we're there for you. You can reach us at Bishop's
City of Praise, Bishop with an s City of Praise
at gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
And we will be glad to take get your information.
Leave it there. We'll be glad to reach out to
you and invite you to come on.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
But it's at thirty two to twenty four Irish drive
and we would love to have you in the beautiful
city of Conyers, the City of Praise. God bless you.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Amen.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
So wait, wait a minute, that's great, but you didn't
tell us the time.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Oh I'm well.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
You know, we're a little a little different than most
of your churches as well, because our church starts at
one thirty in the afternoon, because a lot of you
work on the weekdays and a lot of you work
on the weekends, and a lot of you sometimes you know, Ay,
we just getting saved. We hung out Friday night, Saturday night,
so we're just trying to figure it out. So we
need a place to go. Well, we're there were we

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start our services at one thirty on Sunday morning. Be
glad to have you come on by. We're there, all right,
So that's that sounds great, But let's let's also talk
about how long the service are, because that'd be the
thing people.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Getting those churches and then you be a service for
three hours.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
You'd be like, good Lord, yeah, no, no, no, how service. Well,
first of all, I can put it to you this way.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
God is moving. So if you in a rush to
move God.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
From stop to stop God from moving, then this ain't
the place for you. But we ain't there all day either,
because you know, I love my football and it's football.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
Sea hey, so goat cheese and the Saints so how bears,
So you know.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
So just just know that if our times is quickly,
we're moving and we're doing what God is calling us
to do in that building you ain't gonna be there
all day because we're not gonna be there all day.
I like that, So just come on out. Can you
tell us about the ministries you have there? What we
have the dance ministry of course, and we have min ministry,
We have Praise Team, We have a youth ministry for

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the teenagers for them to be able to just kind
of navigate this teenager life that they're going through. We
have an elderly ministry. We have a ministry for our ministers.
We actually even have a ministry classes that start every January.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
So if you're.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Thinking about becoming a minister and you really want to
learn about it, you just don't want to receive a
certificate and sit on the seat on the pew next
to somebody with your paperwork. Because on every third Sunday
at our ministry, all of the new ministers are allowed
to minister on every third Sunday so they can get
the practice that they need to be the perfection that God.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Has called them to be.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
So if you're thinking about becoming a minister, come on
email us again at Bishop's City of Praise at gmail
dot com.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
And it doesn't matter what state you're in. For that,
and we have.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Classes there, twenty week class and you know, and we
just enrich you and enlighten you on what it is
to be a minister first, because we get a lot
of people that are getting minister's license and have no
clue what they're doing. Not only they get minister's license
and their spirit is contankerous, so everything they touch is
bad too.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
So therefore, if.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
You really want to do it the right way, if
you really want God to be upon you, we're not
an official school, but we're official teachers and we're gonna
teach you how to do it the correct way and
then give you your certifications at the end of it.
So if you're interested again, please see us at Bishop's City.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Of Praise at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (42:38):
So is this a come as you are church? So
I mean, do I have to wear a long skirt
down to.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
The knee or cannot put my because.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
You know, I'm a jeans person, so cannot wear my geens.
Everyone that comes can do whatever they're feeling. The object
is that you show up that you ain't no man
and that you receive what's being preached. AYMN, that's the
only goal there, So don't worry about your clothes, and
everybody say that there's a saying come.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
As you are. Well, no, you're supposed to go with
before the Lord and your best.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
But at the same time, if you ain't got no
bet or you ain't ready for the best, then come
in the rest.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
It's all right. You know we're there to receive you.
Just come on. We got the love.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
You don't have family, as a lot of people I
found out in Georgia are migrating from other places, but
we're there to be your family as well, because we
are a family. We are a tight knit family, and
we love on one another and we welcome everybody that
comes in that door.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
We're there for you.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
God bless you again. I can't say it enough.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
God bless you. It's not just a statement, but I
mean that, God bless you. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
So I'm glad to know that I could come in
my jeans because that is my best y.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
You know, it's funny.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
May make fun of me because I literally when I
was younger, I didn't want to put on.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
The Eastern dress.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Ever, it's just she I was a girly girl and
she was not she still is the girly girl.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
Look at these nails, y'all, look at these nails.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
But they my real nails though, And I keep I'm
just saying exactly, I'm saying, you're a girly girl.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Now she's just she just stays girly girl. So it's
good that your church.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
That you welcome everybody because you want them to get
the word and go closer to God and their path.
And also, and I have been judged because I am
who I am.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
God made me and people I've had ministers come on
my page talking about my nails. Look at your nails.
They too much, and they're to this And I'm the
blind queen. My mercedes that I drive got blinged all
the way around it.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
It does. So I am me. So, but you've always
been and that's this is who I am. That's who.
So when God called me, he.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Didn't call me to change that what makes me me.
And he's not doing that for you either. So you
be who you are because that's how you be true
to yourself and true to God.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
That's right who you are. You know, don't change for anybody.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Now, if you got some things that you know you
need to work on and your you know, work on them,
but who you.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Are don't change for anybody.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I didn't and I hear their mouths and I don't
care because I stand in the anointing and the power
of God, even with my bleed.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
So God is with you. Don't worry about it. And
you know, just rebuki in Jesus.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
Name right right right, because that I am not your garbage.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Can don't dump in me. I don't need your issue.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Oh let's go now we're talking because I was waiting
for that moment.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Let's talk about that for a man. Get the tigud.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
Seriously, let's just have a real conversation. Drop dead gorgeous
you a woman of God. Yes you blieve, but you are.
It has been that this is what you like. You know,
everybody has their thing, but that doesn't.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Take away from your call.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
And for people to try to dump on you, judge you,
or come for you, you know how. And I know
you said you you don't pay no attention to them.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
You keep it moving.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
But I I know that has to be well, let
me not project. I will say it would be hurtful
for me because you know that I'm not coming for you.
I'm here to help you, and you're turning around and
passing judgment on me, especially if you're a fellow minister.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
You're not supposed to be judging anyway, you know what
I mean? So how do you handle that type of adversity?

Speaker 1 (46:34):
Like we talked about all different types of adversity, But
then when you're dealing with peers, especially women in the
same industry, knowing that it's a male dominant you know
what I mean, you already got, you know, some strikes
stacked up against you, and now this is your you
a woman, a woman, You're like, oh, sisterhood, that's what
you think automatically, right, You're supposed to oooh sisterhood.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
You win it together.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
And then they started judging you because of whatever insecurities
or whatever they got going on.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
How does that? How do you deal with that? And
how does that make you feel? Well, we'll start about
how it makes me feel.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
It makes me feel but sad because us as women,
we always we have been taught to fight against each
other instead of rising up with each other. Therefore, you know,
I don't have to be in competition with you. You
don't have to be in competition with me. We are
a diverse individual people as black women. So when we

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come to we when if we ever actually came together
and stop fighting over me and stop fighting over positions,
stop fighting over poolpits, stop fighting period, and just realize
that we are women who need to love God, period,
and we need to love ourselves first. Come on now,
and when we love ourselves first, ain't nothing we can't

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do for one another because we rise together or we
fall together if we both choose to fall, because you
may fall, but I ain't going with you. I'm gonna
take the high role and I'll let you have the
other if that's what your choice may be. Y'all see
that hand, that's that because that's some good word right there.

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Because you talked about earlier on women and we're coming
for a circle, and I'm glad we having these conversations
because this is now the real. Now we unpack it
because you know you're big on women empowerment.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
We both big on that.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Like I lift you up, you know what I mean,
and support you and rock with you, you know however
I can. But when it gets to a point of
where people are trying to tear you down and you're
trying to lift them up, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
I can understand why you feel sad and why you
feel hurt, and why you might want well, this is
me why I might want to tear the.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Club up, but you ain't bring it back. You see,
we tag team with each other because.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
I can say what she might be thinking. Because I'm
not the head of a church.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
You feeling me, I could go and get prayed over
and then she gets high five me in the back.
I'm like, I got you, sister, so.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
All day. So with that said, like, how can like,
is there like a I would say a three step
process for lack of better.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
Words, you know, to to help navigate that when you're
dealing with those type of energy and spirits.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
Or do you say I wash my hands of you,
I'm done with you.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
I'm gonna move away from you, like, because there's a
part of you when you see them, because you're you're
so spiritually in tune, you could look in people's spirit
and say, this woman is broken. So she's acting now
because she's broken. It's not e and got nothing to
do with me exactly. And that's why when people come
at me, I have to realize that you're broken. Something's

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going on. It's got nothing to do with a reason.
There's a reason. So do I walk away.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
From you or do I try to help you?

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Because that servant heart kicks in where you're like, I
want to help this person, but do I do it
at the risk of you continue and to attack me?

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (50:21):
So there's two there's two roads to that, yep. Because
if you're equipped to a if you're equipped to handle
someone like that, then you don't walk away from them.
You stay there and you help them to get to
the root calls of why they're acting like that. When
you say equipped, can you elaborate a little bit more
on that, because some of us might think dealt with
if you've actually dealt with these kind of situations and

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these kind of people, okay, and and you kind of
know how to navigate dealing with complex situations like the
leadership like trauma, Like you're saying, okay, if you have
a trauama, you can kind of relate. Got you, so
we both had similar traumas. Correct, So then I get
I can and then I'm a stand on the gap
for you. Correct Either you get stand in the gap
with them, pray with them, but you still have a

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choice to deal with them or not, because again, you
don't have to receive all that negative energy within yourself,
right But and if you feel it's too much for you,
then you send them to the pastor and let the
pastor handle that. Let the pastor try to unfold it undie.
Because some of the just the members, they want to
help people, and they sold seeds and they bring them
to the church. But at the some point you gotta

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let them go because you're not equipped to handle the
rest of it. Don't you haven't been there, or even
if you've been there, it's still too much for you
to handle, and it'll take you out of your zone.
So you don't want anyone to give you so much
of their negativity that it pulls you away from who
you are.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
And as in leadership in the church, we're trained to
deal with those kinds of things.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
So when do you let me ask a question, and
I know that you're trained for that, when do you
get to a point because we talked about earlier how
some ministers.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
Okay, because we talked about how we just talked about earlier,
how some.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Ministers and you're being judged and so forth, you might
recognize the trauma in the person that's judging you. So
you're not gonna send them to the past. So you're
gonna be like, Okay, now you're coming at me, right,
so now what what does situation? And honestly, I just
try there's a specific person that I'm thinking about, uh, directly,

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and I just keep trying to love on them. I
just keep trying to help them and keep trying to
be there and try to nurture them and try to
throw a positive seeds into their life and speak to
them in positive situations and kind of give them a
view of Hey, did you see that what you just said?
Or did you understand you know, what you just said?
Do you know why you just said what you said?
What's really going on? You know, help them to try

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to understand where they are. Okay, but do you understand
what you just said to me?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
You know? And what did you want me to receive that?
Or you know, how do you feel that I should
take what you just said to me?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Or that you that you're throwing you know, a little
side shots at me or we you know, whatever it
might be. You know, the bottom line is I'm there
to help the bottom line is I'm there to love
on you. I'm there to help you to get from
point A to point B. So if you're attacking me,
then you're not receiving my help.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
That's good. So if you're not receiving my help, what
else can I do for you? Maybe someone else could
do a little better job. That's good. And you just
keep on praying for them.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
But from far right, not even I won't even say
for far, because the specific person I'm talking to, I
keep in contact. I still make sure that they're you know, okay, they're.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
All right, but you know, you need a little more
help than I have because I'm not Jesus. Let's get
that straight, absolutely absolutely absolute right therefore, Okay, maybe this
is a little too much for me, and I like that.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
I like your vulnerability right there, because sometimes people who
have who wear the road the cloth, minister, bishop, pastor
those you know, and not all. But if I could
just be trying parent because I am, because it's my show,

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sometimes they have a problem with admitting that they're not
Jesus correct and that they don't have all the answers.
And it's okay not to have all the answers. To
take it back to God, you're still human, having the
human experience, taking it back to God, correct saying Okay,
I don't you know that was a good one, cares
on to him period.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
He'll give me rest. That's it.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
And so I love that vulnerability about you, and I
think that's how your church is. It's a very vulnerable,
sacred and safe. Because my members always say, we have
a safe space here. See that's what I'm talking And
every time one of them say that, it just warms
my heart because when you think of church, most peop

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don't even go to church no more because they've been
hurt so much. They've gone through so much trauma in
the church, and they've dealt with pastors who ridiculed.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Him and down them and talked about them over the
pulpit and you name it, gone on. So and I
was one of them.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
So that's why when I started this ministry, I had
that kind of mindset. And that's what I wanted to
talk to you, Thank you, thank you right into that, Linnette,
because I was going to ask you what made you
start this ministry? What was it about this and how
is this ministry different than what you've done before, Because
you've been doing this for.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Right and you. From what I'm hearing, you're you're evolving.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
You're evolving, You're evolving spiritually, right, And so when.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
You decide to hit City of Praises, Hey, everybody, Hey, y'all,
what was what did God drop in your spirit for that?

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Well?

Speaker 1 (55:37):
What may City of Praise was was for it to
be a safe place for me, for it to be
a place where people not to be hurt anymore, but
to be valued, you know, to be to be comforted,
to be loved on, to feel like they belonged somewhere,
you know, not not to be I'm just sitting in church.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
You can go anywhere. Why what I want?

Speaker 1 (56:00):
It's my time coming to just sitting church to hear
some man or woman just sit up there and run
their mouth.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
All day and I'm getting nothing.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
So my main prayer every every Sunday morning and during
the week as well, because we have a prayer call.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
You know that we that you guys can join on Thursdays.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna tell you, miss you tell them
about that after your doak. Yes, I am so so
yeah so, but yes, just to make sure that you know,
my prayer to God was that Lord, don't let no
one come in here and leave the same way they
left that they came in. Let them leave out with something,
you know, Let this be some type of blessing to them,
just for them getting up in the morning and coming.

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They don't have to come to church, they don't have
to give their offering, they don't have to show up.
But if they take their time Lord to come and
to show up, let them not leave here those same
way they came. Give them you because I only I
can't give them me because I'm human, But I can
offer them you and you can give them everything.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
That's my goal for this ministry, for the City of Praise.
That's my goal.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
That's how we operate, that's how we minister to people.
That's how we touch the souls of those who have
been broken and been hurt by other pastors and other
churches and just just foolishness that is causing the churches
to separate because they're making church into a business instead
of worrying about the souls. That's what God wanted, That's

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what this whole thing was about, the souls of God's people.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
And they're dying out there.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
They don't know what to do, and they don't know
where to go because when you call, you say the
church to them, they turn up, they head and turn up, they.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Nose because there's no love there. There's no love.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I've been to several churches and I walk in them
and I feel like I want to vomit. Wow, because
God is not there. How do you have what you
call church but you don't have the Holy Spirit in
there with you? You don't have God's present leading it.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Not you, man, but Jesus.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
God is the center of this thing we call church,
and in this day and age they have ripped him
out of it. Well, I'm standing here today to say
at the City of Praise, He's first and foremost, and
he will always be. If there's five members or two thousand,
the vision and the purpose will never change. It's the

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souls of God's people and making sure you make it
to Heaven, making sure you make it in.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
That's what my heart is. That's what my ministry's heart is.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
And not only that, for you to grab somebody else,
because each one teach one, grab somebody else teaching what
we're teaching you, and go grab them and let them
come in tight part of it as well.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
They're blessing awaits and you'll be a part of it.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
You just gotta come first, he said, go out and
compel them to come in. So that's what I'm asking
you to do.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Come on in. You'll see I'm not just talking. We
mean this thing. Let's talk about this. We mean this thing.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
I mean, hold on, I stopped me like, I'm like,
I believe you, I wit, I believe you. Let's talk
about also the prayer call. Right, it's a prayer line.
Is that the proper way it is? Okay, but it's
on the call. And then because what about you're here

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now and this is being broadcast to social media, so
this be worldwide, right, and and maybe I want to
have that experience, but I can't make it.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Miracles happen on that call.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
I can't make it to Connors, right, I can't make
it there, so cannot join that call.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
You definitely can. Can you give them the information? I can,
but I have to grab my phone. Well you're not
gonna grab a call because it's live. But what you
can do.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
What you can do is you can again go on
that website, Bishop's City of Praise at gmail dot com.
I will give you the phone number to the call
in and you don't have to put in a cold.
You don't have to do any of those things. All
you do is dial in. The phone will tell you
exactly what to do and get ready for God's blessing.
It is every Thursday at seven thirty pm Eastern time,

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So please know it's seven thirty Eastern time, and we
are there to greet you, to love on you, to
pray with you, to pray for you, and whatever else
your heart's desires.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
We have Bible study on that line.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Sometimes it's really a whatever God is saying line, And
people have come on there and asked her jobs and
gotten jobs within twenty four hours. People have come on
on there and talked about their health. They've got a
woman got the new kidney after we pray for her
for being on this prayer line. So this prayer line,
God is truly meeting us there, and the Holy Spirit

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is truly guiding us and how to pray and what
to pray when we're on there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
So we will be glad to have you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
So please please please Bishops c t Y of Praise
p r AI s e oh, I'm sorry, no, Bishop's
City of Praise listen at Gmail. What else we're going
to do is because I understand that might have been

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a lot to take it, and I know how I process.
So what we're going to do is when we're done
with this live, we're also going to post and I
want to make sure I post it as well on
my Facebook page all her contact information and the prayer
line that you could call in as well. And that's
what I mean, the prayer line that you could call
in and if you want to join it, by all means,

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I encourage you to. I said it in a couple
of times, and they really go They go in, they
go in and they don't play.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
And I love that. I love that, Lynette.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
You've poured yourself into everything that you've done and continue
to do your great, great wife, and I want to
make sure I acknowledge that because it's a lot of
work being a wife it is, and being the minister
and the grandmom and the mom it is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
How do you do it all? Well, I'm not perfect
at it. Let's just start there.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I like the honesty again, right, I still have work
to do, you know, knowing knowing your husband and knowing
what his needs are and being able to handle him
and everything and everybody else, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Knowing my beautiful children, I see.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Your joy a Lexi a destiny miracle, you know, knowing
all of them, you know, and and and trying to
be everything for everybody. I don't always am not always
the perfect one, but I'm always My heart is always
in it and they all know that, you know, So
me making sure every day that I wake up trying
to be a better meet to my husband, to my children,

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and to my ministry and to whatever else God has
me to put my hands to. We will never be perfect,
but we can definitely keep pursuing and keep trying and
keep pushing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
And while we're on our way to wrapping this up,
let me tell you something. I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
I think you are and I might be a little biased,
but I do think and I know this is the
best guess I had.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
And you know that's my sister, so I'm gonna say that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
But even if you were not the way that you
have poured into this show and everybody who's watching, we
prayed before the show started that someone would get something
out of this that they will not they will be transformed.
And I believe that in Jesus name, that that is
what has happened here, and I thank you so much

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for pouring into people that we don't even know, you know,
And I love the fact that you were very honest.
And I keep saying vulnerable because that's big for me.
And and I'm happy that you were in that vulnerable
space and was like being real. That's what vulnerability is, right,
and being so transparent with your experience, especially as a minister.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
You know, you've got to be real. That's how you
reach people by being real.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
People where they are. And I've always said that and
I thank you that you've done that on this show.
So again, thank you for coming on The Vanguard Show.
I appreciate you all for tuning in. Thank you again
to Intellectual Radios for having me, and I will see
you again very soon. Thank you Bishop Hence for coming

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on The Vanguard Show. I am Victoria, your host and
her sister. I love you all and there's nothing you
could do about it.