3I ATLAS: Cosmic Visitor or Hidden Probe? The Untold Mystery Beyond the Stars

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Hello and welcome to Investigators podcast. I'm your host Chad
alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're turning
our attention to an object that has stirred up more
questions and answers and is sitting right here in our.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Own solar system.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
It goes by the name three I Atlas, and signists
labeled it as a comment, but the behavior doesn't match
the title, not on it's chemistry, it's tele activity, and
its overall profile seem to drift in and out of
what a natural comment should look like.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Something about it feels off.

Speaker 5 (00:59):
Almost as if it's following us on rules, and that's
exactly why this thing is become a flashpoint. When an
object insider solar system starts acting in ways that challenge
the natural explanations, people begin wondering if we're dealing with
something more engineered, more intentional.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Is Atlas really just an icy traveler.

Speaker 5 (01:15):
Or is there more behind the appearance and is timing
as the data rolls in the mystery only gets deeper. Intonight,
We're stepping straight into the center of the mystery with
you all, guys, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
It is November the thirtieth, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
The name of this song is super Nova by Hallman,
and I'm excited to do this episode because we have
been following three IAT Lists for quite some time, actually
probably for the past few months.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
We've done a couple of episodes on it.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
When three Iatlists first appeared, as it was inner in
our atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
We had talked about it. We had talked about what
Auvi Loebes said.

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Auvi low believed that there were chances, and he's an
astrophysicist that this thing could actually be man made or
intelligent made. So something that was not a comment, not
a rock floating through at what a typical comment would do.
This thing started to exhibit behaviors that just did not

(02:07):
add up with a typical comment. And we've had other
actual interstellar visitors before. There's actually been two in our lifetime.
Uhamu uha I think is what it's called. And then
another one and now we actually have some other little
offshoots from three IAT lists which av Lob thinks maybe
some type of either satellites or little craft that this

(02:28):
thing is sending off in the realm of Jupiter to
try to go down and check out what Jupiter's doing.
So this thing is not only sped up, right, it
was supposed to be slowing down down point.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
And that's what's crazy. It's doing the opposite of what
comments are supposed to do. It's speeding up.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
And in this particular area in our solar system, they
say that this thing should be slowing down or the
very least maintaining its speed. Instead, what it is doing
is not like anything anybody has ever seen from a
comment already. For those that do not or have not
listen to our other episodes on three Iyatlas, one of
the things that was very peculiar about this particular object

(03:06):
was the fact that it did not have a tell,
a typical comet tell, and instead, actually, as it was
heading towards the Sun, it had some type of forward
facing tail or I guess leading leading debris filled or
leading light, and that's what auvi Lobe called it. It
was a light that was almost kind of pulling it
towards the Sun. There were speculation and maybe this is

(03:29):
some type of advanced propulsion system to where it pulls
rather than propulses. Obviously, here on Earth we have jets,
we have aircraft that propulses, so it pushes instead of pulls,
and so a lot of scientists and especially even aviation
or astrophysicist, they have talked about that there is a
possibility that you could have a propulsion device or I

(03:50):
guess I don't know what the reverse of propulsion would be,
but it would be something that would be pulling something
towards a location, or a naviga gational aid. And so
it appeared that three I lists might be exhibiting some
of those features.

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But it seems like a lot of the same stuff
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(07:05):
got so many episodes coming up. There's so much going
on right now. There's new Epstein information that just hit
today which we want to go into crazy now.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
We'll probably have that tomorrow night.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
There's a lot of stuff going on, even kind of
some of the fallout from the DC National Guard shooting.
Pam Bondi is now saying that she is going to
send in and they, the DOJ and the government are
going to send in National Guard to as many cities
as humanly possible, And so we'll talk about that likely
on another episode. We still got Cannis Owen stuff to
talk about. There is a lot, but I am glad

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that at the very least we're going to be able
to talk about something that is a little fun. It's
fun to talk about stuff like three eye out lists
until it like you know, turns and comes forwards.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
Towards Earth and like, what the heck is this thing?

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Yeah, so New York Posts actually has a an article
on here. So a three iatlists bizarre trajectory suggest it
could be sending satellites to spy on Juba, Harvard scientist says,
and it says, is this a gas giant about to
have a close encounter of the third kind or three
I kind? Harvard scientists Ivielobe claims that three iatlists bizarre
trajectory suggests that it's sending satellites to Jupiter to gather

(08:13):
intel for an extraterrestrial civilization. Lobe told the post that
the commet three ietlists could use its time near Jupiter,
which it will reach on March sixteenth, twenty twenty six,
to seed additional probes onto the gas giant. In a
new blog post on medium, the astrophysicists speculated Jupiter is
on the interest to the comet because Jupiter is bigger

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than Earth and other neighboring planets in our Solar system
and therefore acts like an intergalactic beacon. Lobe said that
for the comet to do a recon on Jupiter, it
would have to move into a region where Jupiter's gravity
dominates over the Sun. That area contains stable spots where
objects can hold position with very little fuel, making them
prime real estate for advanced satellites. So what we have

(08:56):
found lately is that it seems like that this three
Ilis is headed towards Jupiter. There has been some mass
that has already been dispersed from this object.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
We don't know exactly why.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
It doesn't make a lot of sense, and so some
are already speculating, including Auvi, Lobe and other astrophysicists, that
maybe this thing has already dispersed some of these drones
or whatever whatever they are, whatever it could possibly be,
out of this object. The Lobe also goes on to
say that he pointed out three Alis appears to be

(09:28):
following the exact path. Lobe found it an extraordinary coincidence
that during the interstellar entity's closest approach to Jupiter in March,
it will be at a minimum distance of fifty three
point four to four million kilometers or over thirty three
million miles from Jupiter based on calculations, and it says
it comes exactly at their right distance from Jupiter for
Jupiter's gravity to dominate. Lobe told News Nation, So if

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it wants to release some probes near Jupiter, that's where
it needs to be. Now, I want to quickly go
back to when Auvilobe went on the jar Rugan podcast,
and this was only a couple of months ago, and
this is where he talked about what he thought maybe
three eyeatlysts was doing. You know, is it an actual
naturally occurring object a comment, or could it be some

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intelligent probe or craft.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Listen, things are getting very wild.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, there is a lot of misinformation.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
You know.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Some people said, I invented three I atlas this object
in order to distract attention from the Epstein files.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Is that what we're saying?

Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yeah, And I said, look, this object is the size
of Manhattan Island. It's at four and a half times
the earthenlane separation. If I was able to put it
out there, you know, I would be more powerful than
the pope. And because we're talking about a giant object
that you can see from any place on Earth. You know,
you can buy online telescope that will allow you half

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a meter in size, that will allow you to see it.
It's out there. It cannot be faked.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Well, those people are fools. You can't listen to those people.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't listen to those I don't listen to many people.
You know.

Speaker 9 (11:07):
Initially a lot of people were dismissing your concerns, and
they were saying that this object is nothing but a
comment and it's very normal. But then as it got
closer and as we got more data, it seems like
you're correct.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Well as a very unusual object.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
There is something really important to recognize here that usually
when you deal with scientific matters, they have very little
impact on the future of humanity, very little you know,
if the nutrino has a little bit of a mass,
doesn't really matter. You know, when we discovered the Higgs boson,
the biggest impact was to confirm some idea we had

(11:45):
back in the sixties. And you know, obviously that affected
you know, those people who got the Nobel price, but
most of us continued as if nothing happened. However, here,
if we ever encounter alien technology, everything will change. It
will affect the financial markets, it will affect politics in

(12:07):
a major way. So my point is simple. This is
different than other scientific matters. And the intelligence agencies know
very well that events with very small probability have to
be considered seriously because they could have major implications. Just
think about October seventh. The Israeli intelligence agencies had a

(12:28):
theory that the Hamas will do nothing, and they got
data that indicated something is going on out there, but
they dismissed it because of their theory. Now, because as
a result of their mistake, which was clearly a blunder,
a lot of people died on both sides, that this

(12:51):
could have been avoided if they were to consider a
black swan event, an event that you put a small
probability for it happening. But you look at a normally
in the data and say, look, the implications are so huge,
we have to consider it. And you know, this idea
was already considered by the philosopher mathematician Blessed Pascal. He

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talked about God and he said, look, of course you
might think that God doesn't exist. The probability for that
is small, but the implications if God exists, the implications
are so huge that we have to discuss it. That
was the argument Pascal's wager. And the intelligence agencies know that.
Believe me, the Israeli intelligence agencies will not make that

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mistake again. Now Here comes an object from outside the
Solar System and it shows anomalies. The scientists would say,
we should be as careful as possible at talking about
anything other than a rock. Now they say that when
they know that we launched humanity launched a lot of

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space junk. You know a lot of technological objects to space.
And we also know that there are one hundred billion
stars like the Sun in the Milky Way galaxy alone,
most of them formed billions of years before the Sun,
and there are billions of Earth's sun analogs. Now, we
all believe that we came out of a soup of chemicals.

(14:14):
You know, that's the scientific narrative of how human intelligence
came on this Earth. And so it's quite likely that
you know, we are not the first one. Sorry to
break the news. Elon Musk was probably not the most
accomplished space entrepreneur since the Big Bang thirteen point eight
billion years ago. And therefore we should consider the possibility

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that things like us existed long before us. And you
can ask the question, how long does it take our
own technology, the voyage of spacecraft that we launched out
of the Solar System, how long does it take it
to move to the opposite side of the Milky Way galaxy?
You know, thousands of light years away, takes less than
a billionaires. And that means that all these civilizations that

(15:00):
had their history initiated billions of years before ours could
have done it. And all we need to do, is
responsible scientists, is to check if among all the rocks
that come from outside of our backyard are really rocks
or maybe one of these objects might be a tennis

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ball that was thrown by a neighbor. And the reason
I say that is, you know, we live at our
home on Earth next to the sun. We look around
us in the cosmic street, and we see a lot
of houses just like ours. There are billions of them. Probably. Now,
my colleagues, those scientists who think traditionally, they say, well,

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you know, microbs came to Earth very early, therefore they
must be everywhere. So let's define our highest priority searching
for microbes on other houses in our cosmic street. And
I say, good, you can do that from the vantage
point of your home. You can look through the window

(16:07):
and search for microbes in your neighbor's yards. But you
would need to put ten billion dollars to develop a
big enough instrument that would be able to detect the
chemical fingerprints of microbes, you know, on exoplanets. And think
about the possibility that there was, actually there is a
resident in one of those houses. You know, that resident

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might show up in your front door at some point,
or you might see an object that arrives to your
backyard or your mailbox from that resident event a black
swan event. Or you might see some construction project in
from a distance that might be easier to detect than microbes.
So we should hedge our bets, you know, we should

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invest billions of dollars on both fronts. At the moment,
the scientific community is willing to allocate more than ten
billion dollars to searching for microps, but no recommendation is
made to allocate any federal funding to the search for intelligence.
And I say that that is an oversight.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Let's let's go back to one more time, Okay, I
don't want to screw it up. How large was that?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
That was the size of a football field. So of
all the one hundreds.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Mines small in comparison the three.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Oh yeah, that's my point. That three I atlas is
a million times more massive, at least a million times
more massive than And I immediately as it was discovered,
you know, it was July first, and my wife asked
me to go on vacation to Aruba two days later.
And as I was going on the plane, and as
I arrived there, I realized, wait, that doesn't make sense,

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because we should have seen millions of mumuas before we
saw this one. You know, it's so big. And I
also realized there is not enough rocky material permit volume
interestal space to deliver such a giant rock into the
Inner Solar System within a period of a decade, you
would expect it. At the very optimistic scenario where you

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package all the material into objects that are five kilometer
in diameter, you would imagine once per ten thousand years.
So I wrote immediately a scientific paper. My wife was
not happy that, you know, on our vacationion I was
sitting on my computer, but I just couldn't resist it.
And by the way, this paper I submitted for publication
that was July third or something, and then the editor said, oh,

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the paper is fine, but you have a concluding sentence
at the end where you say, well, unless the object
is smaller than estimated, maybe it was targeting the inner source.
That was my solution to say, you know, one way
out of this dilemma of why is it so big
is if it was targeting the inner solace and by design,

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and indeed, the trajectory is aligned with the plane of
the planets around the Sun within five degrees. The chance
for that at random is one in five hundred, okay,
And it's moving in a retrograde trajectory opposite to the
motion of the planets, which is ideal for it to
release miniprobs that will get into the planets. It gets
close to Mars, it gets close to Jupiter, it goes

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on the opposite side of the Sun relative to Earth
when it's closest to the Sun, and that's the time
when a spacecraft could do a maneuver to take advantage
of the Sun's gravitational assist You know, all of these
are interesting indications that may imply that some intelligence designed
the trajectory. So I had one sentence at the end

(19:43):
of the paper saying maybe the trajectory was designed, and
the editor said, no, no, no, the paper will not
get published unless you remove that sentence.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
So now when you listen to comet experts, that's say, well,
this claim or that claim was never published in a
peer review journal. Guess what they are, the editors or
the reviewers who are blocking the discussion on possibilities. And

(20:15):
I think it's inappropriate, especially in the case of alien technology,
because it could be a black Swan event. It could
be something that affects the future of humanity and if
we behave you know, very conservatively, we might not.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Last very long. What's also arrogant, it's arrogant. This object
is shows that there's no iron.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
Oh no, so yeah, so then the composition of the
plume of gathers.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
This is before you knew about the composition. That's right.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
He wrote this paper exactly.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
And so as time is going on, you are being
shown to be correct.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Well, we find more more anomalist. This is not a
normal thing, not a normal thing. So for one thing,
there was a glow that looks like an extended feature,
and everyone said, oh, that's a tail. That's the signature
of a comet. And I said, wait a minute, it's
pointing towards the Sun. It's not pointing away from the Sun.

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Usually cometary tales are made of dust and gas which
is pushed back away from the Sun by the radiation
and the solar wind, you know. And so this one
was pointed towards the Sun, not away from the Sun.
And the question is why. And actually I calculated that,
you know. It appeared very clearly in the sharpest image

(21:34):
we had from the Habit Space telescope, which showed an
elongation by a factor of two towards the Sun. But
we were looking at it like a cigar. We were
looking almost along the cigar long axis, within ten degrees
of the object sun axis, so we were looking almost
edge on. And I calculated if you were to correct

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for that, this would be a feature that is ten
times longer than it is wide, you know, and that
means it's.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Like a jet.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
So the object was had a jet in front of
it towards the sun. The question is why, and you
know the comet experts ignored it and just said, well,
you know, commets are strange. You know, who knows. But
my point is this is a blind date of interstellar proportions.
And my advice on blind dates is not to speak

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or say what you think this is, but to observe
the other side. You know, the best way to respond
to a blind date is to observe the other side.
Don't speak, just observe the other side because it may
be different than what you think. And maybe you know
on one of the dates you will have a serial
killer on the other side.

Speaker 9 (22:45):
Oh boy, Now explain if you could, how we know
the composition.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Of this thing so we can figure out composition of
a plume of gas. But I am taking a spectrum
of it, which means you basically have some kind of
a prism that breaks. You know that the light with
different wavelengths is bent at different angles, and so you

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spread the light into the different colors. And if you
do that, you can find the fingerprints, the spectral fingerprints
of specific atoms or molecules, because each atom or molecule
has transitions. I actually teach I thought it just two
days ago in a class that they teach that is

(23:35):
mandatory obligatory at the half Ad Astronomy department where I
was chaired for a decade, you know, like between twenty
eleven twenty twenty. So this is the mandatory class, and
I just thought, how you know, spectral lines emitted by
atoms and molecules just two days ago. So this is
a very well known thing. And we know the wavelengths

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of those and we use them to identify the composition.
You know, we know which atoms produced these spectral lines,
the fingerprints. It's just like fingerprints, okay. And so what
was found, you know, and that's by multiple teams that
are three papers on that. We found nickel, a lot

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of nickel, but very little iron at first, no iron whatsoever. Now,
usually in all the comets in the past from the
Solar System and also from interstellar space, there is one comet,
Borisov that was found. It's the second interstellar object which
looked just like a familiar comet. I had nothing to
say about that one. It looked like a comet, behaved

(24:37):
like a comet. It was a comet, but it had
similar abundances of nickel and iron. The only place where
we found before much more nickel than iron is in
alloys that we produce industrially. For example, for aerospace applications,
nickel alloys have a lot of nickel no iron. So

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maybe the skin of this object is industrially produced. That
was my suggestion. But what the authors of these papers
said is maybe nature is capable of going through the
same chemical pathway of producing nickel without iron as we
do in our industries. So they made the conjecture that

(25:19):
this carbonyl pathway, which is well known in the industry
world carbonil is the pathway in the name of the pathway.
They said, well, maybe this carbonym pathway happens in nature.
We've never seen it before, but that is their explanation.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
That was a below on the ger Rogan podcast, and
I have a lot to kind of break down just
for a moment.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Number one, you know, this is heavily made up of nickel.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
This craft or object, whatever it is, versus iron, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
Versus iron and versus what a typical comment would be
made up of. Now, now, if you actually look at
the alloy which is what we industrially produce for aerospace,
and you name it, this is typically what you would
find of how we produce aircraft, how we produce aluminum alloy,
how we produce craft that we actually fly through the
air currently. And so when Elon Musk actually went on

(26:12):
the Joe Rogan podcast and Joe Rogan asked Elon Musk
about this, he said, well, you know, actually the way
that we get this nickel, and the way we've always
kind of found this is we go back to where
commets have impacted Earth before. And Elon Musk says, that
is how we actually get a lot of this alloy
on Earth is because of where commets have impacted Earth before,

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and that's where most of our nickel, most of our
alloy comes from today.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Now, that is what scientists.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Are leading with as far as their I guess rebuttal
on the fact that this thing is mostly made up
of nickel. As also, Elon Musk said, if this craft
is made up of completely or almost all of nickel,
it would be a very very heavy craft.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Why would you make something so heavy?

Speaker 5 (26:55):
So I understand that aspect of it as well, but
we also have to get in just briefly, there are
a lot of things that are not making sense about
this number one. Recently, literally over the past two days,
we know that this craft instead of slowing down, which
it should have after it got around the Sun and
kind of came back and headed towards Jupiter, it should
have slowed down only because of you're no longer in

(27:18):
a pull type environment from the Sun. You're actually in
a slow down period. And so without propulsion or without
some type of I guess you can say engine or
advanced system, you're going to slow down, and instead this
thing has sped up. We've never seen this from a
comment or anything that has been through our solar system before,

(27:39):
so this is very weird. As Abby also had talked
about the Higgs Boson particle, the Large Hadron Collider, which
I believe is in Sweden. We've talked about that cern
for those that know anything about CERN. They have been
colliding particles at light speed in one of the biggest
industrial things ever made, actually I miles long, and they

(28:02):
collide particles in this like two or three mile loop,
And what they're trying to do is they're trying to
see if we do collide these particles, these atoms. We
want to see like is there something that happens from
this collision? Is there can we get evidence of a
extra dimension? Can we get evidence of you beyond our
three dimensional realm and world that we live in. We

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also know that time is likely the fourth dimension, which
is something we can't see, we perceive, but is there
another dimension beyond that?

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Because if you think about this, the.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Standard model, which what we know the three spatial dimensions,
and then the time dimension, which is the fourth dimension
as many people call it, but the string theory, which
is the big physics, the string theory predicts ten or
eleven total dimensions depending on the version, so ten dimensions
and super string theory eleven dimensions and m theory, and
so these extra dimensions are believed to be curled up

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extremely small or hidden from everyday experiences. So some of
this could be the black matter or the dark matter
that we don't see that we is all around us.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
And what cern has been trying to.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
Figure out is like, what is the universe actually made
of everything that we can't see in the universe. How
does that react to the way that we perceive reality,
How does that react to our third dimensional space or
our three dimensional space outside of time? And so what
they have started to figure out is that if there
is eleven dimensions, like the m theory suggest, what would

(29:30):
something like the eleventh dimension look like and the eleventh
dimension would look like something like God.

Speaker 6 (29:36):
Yeah, that's what I was getting ready to say, is
they're looking for the God particle.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Which they have the God particle, which is the Higbosum particle.
But that doesn't necessarily prove eleven dimensions. The M theory
talks about and theorizes that there are eleven dimensions, so
that's beyond third and fourth dimension, fourth dimension time. But
then how it theorizes this is that there has to
be other dimensions that make up our universe, and likely

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there are many dimensions. So if you think about the
black hole, that is another dimension. We can't necessarily explain
it right now to where how you would go through
a black hole and you would be evaporated. Now, what
would happen to your spirit as a believer of God
or a believer of the spiritual realm? Like, how does
that all work out. But you know, it goes back
to Interstellar the movie.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
Yeah, it's like wormholes and the difference between a black
hole and a wormhole.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Yeah, and there's not really many differences. There are some,
but there are micro wormholes that many scientists do theorize.
But even still, like when you look at the Interstellar
movie to where they went down to this planet that
was near a black hole and they were talking to
they were trying to talk to NASA Mission Control as

(30:46):
they were about to get on this planet, and National
Mission Control said, look, if you guys are going down
this planet, you know every thirty minutes on this planet
is going to be like four years on Earth because
you are so close to this black hole. This all
has to do with dimension. So what if eleventh dimension
did exist? So this idea obviously comes from the m theory,

(31:06):
but there has been some whistleblowers that have come out
from CERN that says that they have found potentially the ninth, tenth,
or eleventh dimension. At CERN, there was a lot of
people Stephen Hawkin, for example, said that what CERN was
doing was likely going to open up the gates of Hell,
and so what he meant by that was that he
knew that they were playing with firey, and he theorized

(31:29):
that along with some other sciences. He said, if you
keep messing with this, and you keep screwing with these
particles and trying to open up these other dimensions, you're
likely or potentially going to open up some type of
dimension that we cannot close the door on. Once you
open that up, you can't close the door on that.
So what does eleventh dimension look like? Well, when we
experienced a third dimension, so if we experienced a fourth

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a length with highth time, and the other seven are hidden,
But the hidden doesn't mean imaginary.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
It means they're part.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Of a reality that don't unfold in ways that we
can possibly perceive. So compactified dimensions is what it's called
up is rolled up to so small that you can't
see it. And so imagine each point in space is
actually a tiny loop or curled up in a shape
that you just cannot perceive. Now, how God could exist
in eleven dimension in M theory? And if M theory

(32:18):
is correct, the universe truly has eleven dimensions that when
we experience that, we experience a three spatial dimensions plus time,
and is only a very tiny slice of the full
structure reality.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
So a being that exists.

Speaker 5 (32:32):
Outside or throughout all eleven dimensions would appear supernatural to
all three dimensional beings like us. Right, So if there's
anything outside of that third dimension that we live in,
that would be and what we would consider supernatural. So
God exists outside the dimensional structure entirely. So many theologians
and some physicists propose that God is not confined to

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dimensions at all. So in this view, God created the
eleven dimension structure and God is not limited by them.
All dimensions exist within God's awareness of presence. So to
a being outside of the dimensional elements, time is not linear,
distance is irrelevant, and the beginning and end of the
universe are equally visible. And this aligns perfectly with the
biblical idea that I am the Alpha and the Omega,

(33:18):
as it talks about in the Bible. Many people believe
God exists in a higher dimension that we cannot even access,
and there's another model that says God exists in a
higher seventh dimension beyond our own. To understand this, picture
a two D cartoon character in a flat world.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
You a three D bean.

Speaker 5 (33:35):
Can see their entire world at once you can touch
points that they can't reach, and enter and exit the
plane at will and appear and disappear instantly. From this
two D dimension if you are a three dimensional being,
so to them you would seem omnium present or omnipotent.
So you're almost like a god to a two D
dimensional world. And so if God operates in a tenth

(33:57):
or eleventh dimension, the same relationship holds, but between God
and us. So from that vantage point, seeing the future
or passes, automatic influencing events looks effortless, and miracles are
simply higher dimensional interactions.

Speaker 6 (34:09):
And it's almost like God can touch us and feel
and see what we're doing, but we can't really touch him. Yes,
you know, we can pray to him, and we can
talk to him, and I think he does hear our
prayers and he hears when we're talking to him, but
he has more of an ability to reach out because
he would be like the three D versus us the

(34:31):
two D.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, absolutely, one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (34:33):
And there's a lot of physicists and philosophers to argue
the Higgs field, which if you remember what Sern discovered,
the Higgs bosum particle, I mean they had all kinds
of awards when they found this, But they argue that
that this is a quantum field or the fabric of
space time itself. It could be a manifestation of a
divine consciousness. So in an eleven dimensional context, that means

(34:54):
that all dimensions are expressions of a single underlying intelligence.
So God is the ground state of the entire structure.
An existence itself arises from that consciousness. So this is
kind of similar to Einstein's belief in cosmic intellect or
the idea of the logos in Christian theology or Eastern
concepts of Braham. Now, if God exists in a higher dimension,

(35:16):
interacting with us might mean cut, you know, maybe collapsing
down into a lower dimensional form aka Jesus manifesting a
slice of higher reality, communicating through filled consciousness or energy.
So you're talking about dreams, visions, prophetic views, all of
this stuff. This is the way that God in a
eleventh dimensional realm, looking at a three D dimensional world,

(35:38):
the same way that a three dimensional US would look
at a two dimensional world, would interact with that two
dimensional world. So it's kind of like the mirrors ideas,
like the angelic realm, where the spiritual visions or miracles
appearing from nowhere. Think of it all like a three
D hand dipping into a two D world. The two
D beings would only see a shape, not the full hand,

(35:59):
but they would see the result of whatever that was
that we were doing on their two D world. And
then you think about like the consciousness, souls, and the afterlife. Now,
one of an interpretation that I liked is that our
souls may be a higher dimensional aspect of ourselves that
only partially exist in the three D physical body.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
Right, So our.

Speaker 5 (36:23):
Souls what we believe, what we think, how we feel,
what happens when we die, maybe even deja vu, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Just the other day's Sherry and I didn't really.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Even want to bring this up, but it was kind
of crazy, especially as we're talking about this. I've never
been one that talks or believes like I'm a psychic
orny of that stuff, and I always kind of discount
a lot of.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
That you do.

Speaker 6 (36:48):
And I think you do have the abilities, just like
I feel like I have some abilities, and I think
a lot of people have abilities they just don't know
it's there.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Well, i'd woke up at six am yesterday morning and
I'd woke up for probably thirty minutes, went back to sleep,
and I had all these crazy dreams. And oftentimes when
I get dreams, I can remember or things that are
kind of influential to me throughout my day or my
week or my month. It'll be when I wake up,
stay awake for thirty forty five minutes, and then go
back to sleep.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
Probably because you're not in that rim you know, you're
not in that deep deep sleep, and you can remember
your dreams.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Yeah, you're in a rim sleep or whatever. But yeah,
so I can kind of interact with them a little more.
I remember them a little more. But anyways, so yesterday morning,
I don't know what time it was, but I had
dreamed that Sherry's daughter was very sick. She was sick
with someone else. They had went to the hospital, and
that was my dream. And so I had woke up
and I told Cherry about this. I told Cherry about
some of my other dreams talking. I mean, I was

(37:43):
thinking about business and marketing and podcasts and all this stuff.
But then I also mentioned faith dreaming. I said, this
is just weird. It's weird that I dreamed that because
I never dreamed this stuff. So anyways, I'd went to
the store, came back, and I guess you would got
a text yes from your daughter while.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
You were at the store.

Speaker 6 (37:59):
I was like, Chad, when you came in the door,
I was like, holy crap, you're not going to believe what.
Faith just texts me. Yeah, and You're like what. I'm like,
she is sick as a dog. She thinks she either
has food poisoning or a stomach bug, and her dad
has it. They've had it like all night. It was
just crazy that you dream that. And then I received
that text and I immediately text her back. I'm like,

(38:21):
oh my god, Faith, Chad just dreamed it and talked
about it to me before I even seen the text.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
But the weird thing too, was like during that dream,
I felt like that she was not the only one sick.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
She brought other people with.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Her to the hospital or whatever, and then come to
find out over the next forty eight hours that like
everybody was getting sick. So it was you know, I
guess they got food poison I don't know. But then
I asked myself questions about like how would that be possible,
Like that's obviously I don't believe a coincidence. I believe
that somehow, in maybe because I'm connected with her. You know,

(38:55):
obviously I've been around her for fifteen years now. I'm
connector or some way. But some way, as I was dreaming,
as I was in that dream state, I connected with
this energy field, whatever her energy field was. However that happened,
and I knew somehow that that was happening in my
brain or my soul or whatever it was was telling
me this.

Speaker 7 (39:14):
Because I loved all your other dreams.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
I'm like, well, I don't like the dream about Faith
though her going to hospital and getting sick, but I
do like the other dreams. And I left it at that.
And then when you came back as like, holy crap, Chad,
you're not gonna believe what happened.

Speaker 7 (39:28):
It was just crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
So like even when you're talking about this like other
dimension stuff, our souls being kind of a higher dimensional
aspect of ourselves in this three D physical body, and
that kind of aligns with I guess you can say
like the near death experienced literature, or the quantum consciousness theories,
or the biblical descriptions of the spiritual body as the
Bible talks about often and so in this view, kind

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of the afterlife is simply a transition from the lower
four D projection to the full higher dimensional existence, right,
and so that's where your soul fully encompasses wherever that
soul goes, yeah, after your physical body dies.

Speaker 6 (40:04):
Yeah, and I don't feel like your I think your
soul and your body are connected, but they're not.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (40:10):
When you die, your soul goes on to be wherever
it's going to be, if it's in heaven or whatever,
but your body physically dies. And I think too, that's
why I have a lot of stuff that happens with me,
with the orbs and all that stuff. It's those inner
dimensional things. Yeah, there's happening.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Yeah, there's some type of spiritual connection or or energy
connection to those things. And you know, so like if
the universe has these eleven dimensions, like the m theory suggests,
then God could I guess, you know, exist outside of
all of them or within that higher seven in a
way that makes him naturally omnipotent or omnipresent. And that
kind of looks miraculous to us, but it would simply

(40:47):
be normal in physics in a higher dimensional space, so
although it sounds like crazy that stuff like miracles could happen, visions,
prophetic views, people in the Bible, like a lot of
the profits, that these visions that were going to like
something was going to happen. You go back to Noah,
you go back to whoever, and he had these visions
that this is going to happen and you need to

(41:08):
prepare for this. And they were so I guess you
can say they were so believable. Yeah, they were so
believable that they had to do it. Yes, they had
to do it. They knew they had to do it.
And I think that this all ties into the mentions.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
I just want to mention real quick too, that you know,
the miracle of prayer works. Just for example, in Andrew Woof,
the guy that was shot with the other girl that
was killed, Sarah, the National Guards, Yeah, the National Guard soldiers.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
He is still.

Speaker 6 (41:39):
Surviving and his family feels like it's by a miracle
and it's a miracle prayer.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think prayer can absolutely work.
And then obviously there are people that believe that, like
you know, hey, look I got everybody to pray for
my kid or whatever, and then they still died and
they don't understand that, and that doesn't always work out obviously,
But what I'm saying is that it's all very possible,
and so anybody that believes that God can exist, or

(42:04):
you know, even as Avi Lobe kind of goes back
to the Big Bang theory. And what scientists always want
to prove is that it's all scientific based.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Right, we want to prove everything physically.

Speaker 5 (42:14):
When I to prove it in microbes, we want to
talk about how the most likely scenario would be a
Big Bang theory, or the most likely scenario would be
the fact that there was some type of either comet
or something that came down planted microbes that started growing
an evolution kind of took over. Since then, I just
don't necessarily get on with that. And it's also interesting

(42:36):
to me too to when if you talk to very
hardcore Christians that believe in strictly the Bible, and which
I do. I mean, I believe in the Bible for sure,
and I believe what the Bible says, but I also
believe that there are so many Christians out there that
interpret the Bible the way they want to, and there
are many examples.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Of that, Right, I mean many examples, but one of.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
Them I believe was just for some reason they have
in their heads that's not possible to have a intelligent
life outside of us because they believe the Bible specifically
says that we're the only people that God ever created.
And that's never really what the Bible ever says anywhere.
And so could God have created other beings and other
life forms? Absolutely, and I do believe that's the case.

(43:21):
You have to understand that most of our Bible on
earth was written by men, was written by man as
they followed a supernatural physical being such as Jesus Christ
and had visions from a supernatural being such as God.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Right, And so if you're telling.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Me that maybe the people that were writing the Bible
that were the disciples and that were talking about what
they witnessed as Jesus led and performed miracles and did
all the things that he did, that doesn't mean that
there's not possibilities of other life forms. And if you
truly believe that Jesus has such a magnificent physical representation

(43:59):
of God and God the way he is, you can't say,
just because of that he was on earth that there's
no other life forms in our universe. I just don't
believe that, and I don't it also does it kind
of make sense to me why God would only create
one life firm on one earth in this vast universe. Right,
So a lot of Christians they want to go back

(44:19):
to the firmament, and you know that we are kind
of encapsulated and space isn't real and all of this stuff.
But we know space is real. I don't think the
Bible really ever says space isn't real. I mean, it
does talk about the ferment, but I think that's also
a way that people kind of they theorize or they
or they have their own interpretations of what that means.

(44:40):
But also there are many places in the Bible where
it talks specifically about things that we kind of are
talking about now, even the watchers in a Nephlum that
were half supernatural and half humilan whatever it's goed, charity
to fire, exe fuels, will you know all of these things.
There are so many, I guess you can say text

(45:02):
or subjects in the Bible that really do kind of
refer to outer worldly beings beyond what we have here
on earth. And if in my opinion, the amount of
talk in the Bible about supernatural beings are beyond what
I think that most Christians perceive.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
And I think.

Speaker 5 (45:22):
Also like especially in the Book of Enoch, which I
think Enoch is a very important book that was left
out of the Bible. But Enoch really gets into this
supernatural world where you know, the gods and the gods,
the fallen angels that came down to Earth and they
were kind of instructed to be the gods of certain
regions of Earth, which was God was, you know, kind

(45:44):
of came down, was in a fight with he he
cast him down to Hell essentially, and that's the entire
reason why Moses was sent down as the chosen Seed,
as Enoch talks about, and Moses being the chosen Seed,
meaning that he was sent down to Earth to create
an arc and to make an arc because of what

(46:05):
the watchers came down and did with humans on Earth,
and so fallen angels supernatural, that's all very real. If
you believe in a Bible. If you believe in the Bible,
then you believe in supernatural. You believe in other dimensions
because they exist and they can cross with the physical dimension,
this third dimension exactly.

Speaker 7 (46:23):
So, and I well I'm sorry, I didn't mean to
interrupt you.

Speaker 6 (46:26):
But that's why I really believe in what Ivy Lob
is saying when he said that he's seen other comments.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
That look like a duck quack like a duck.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
They are a duck, and he never like written, he
didn't write papers on them or anything, but he wrote
papers on three I at lists because it does not
quack like a duck.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Absolutely, it's very weird, it's very outer ordinary. It's not
something that we've ever seen before. So what does all
that mean to what we're talking about now? You know,
I'm sure you guys are asking like, why are you
even talking about dimensions?

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Why are you talking about all this?

Speaker 5 (47:01):
Because I've talked with a lot of people, like Christians,
especially when I talk about three outlasts, and they automatically
just discredit it and they say, that's ridiculous, that's a lie.
It's it's it's a false flag, it's you know, it's yeah,
Operation blue Beam is what I'm talking about. You know,
they automatically go to that, They're like, no, this is

(47:21):
Operation Blue Beam. They're going to try to make a
fake alien evasion. They're going to take your attention off something.
It's going to be a false flag and they're going
to have holograms in the sky. And look, they obviously
very well could do that, but I just don't think
necessarily that's the case with this. So what I did
want to do is auvi LO have just posted a
new video. This was yesterday actually eleven hours ago, so

(47:42):
it was actually this morning, and this is some of
this new findings on three Eye outlasts, and then we
will kind of.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Wrap this up with what we believe what this actually
could be.

Speaker 8 (47:51):
Here you go, could five billion tons of matter really
just disappear into the void without a trace? That is
the show talking amount of material ejected from the mysterious
interstellar object we call three Eye Atlas. Hello, I am
avi Lobe. Today we are going to dive straight into

(48:12):
a mystery that is defining conventional physics.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Is this just a rock or is it a message?

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Today?

Speaker 8 (48:20):
The international scientific community continues to pay close attention to
my work and the work of my colleagues at Harvard
University regarding the latest updates on the mysterious interstellar object
three Eye Atlas. This phenomenon is causing heated debate in
the astronomy community. According to newly released information, Three Eye

(48:40):
Atlas is the third celestial body recorded to pass through
our solar system. It reached perihelion in October, when it
received intense solar radiation of up to seven hundred and
seventy wards per square meter. Researchers are questioning whether this
intense heat and ready ordeal will change the physical nature

(49:02):
of the celestial body, or even reveal something beyond current
understanding of its origin. Previously, Three Eye Atlas surprise scientists
by showing unusual acceleration not entirely consistent with the natural
orbits of normal celestial bodies. Spectroscopic observations also revealed a

(49:23):
strange blue glow, suggesting a unique material composition or a
previously unknown reflection mechanism. This anomaly has sparked a number
of ball hypotheses, from the possibility that it is a
unique natural remnant to the more outlandish hypothesis that it
could be an artificial structure from an extraterrestrial civilization. The

(49:44):
appeal of Three Eye Atlas lies not only in the
dry scientific numbers, but also in the feeling that the
line between science and the unexplained is gradually blurring. Is
this a testament to the amazing diversity of the universe,
or just a signal that you unity is stumbled upon
from another civilization. The answer may still be far from clear,

(50:07):
but three Eye Atlas has certainly become a new focus
in humanity's quest to learn about extraterrestrial life and intelligence.
A mysterious new chapter in the exploration of the interstellar
object three Iye Atlas is slowly unfolding. The latest analysis
suggests that the object appears to have developed a strange

(50:29):
form of anti gravity acceleration. This is something that cannot
be explained by normal gravity alone. According to calculations, if
three Eye Atlas were a natural object, to create such
a strong acceleration, it would have had to lose up
to fifteen percent of its mass through evaporation to create thrust.

(50:52):
This is a huge number, almost beyond the capabilities of
a normal comet or natural object. If this scenario is correct,
three iAtlas may have undergone an unprecedented period of intensive operation,
causing it to lose not only its outer shell, but
also part of its internal structure. This opens up a

(51:15):
rare opportunity for humanity to discover the true composition of
an object from outside the Solar System. Research teams are
expected to announce preliminary conclusions in the coming weeks. Is
Three Eye Atlas just a decaying natural comet or something
else entirely? However, a more radical theory is being put

(51:36):
on the table. This anti gravity acceleration may not be natural.
Some researchers are bold enough to suggest that it could
be a sign of artificial propulsion technology such as ion engines,
jet engines, or even an advanced propulsion system from an
extraterrestrial civilization. This theory was given added weight when images

(51:59):
taken after periri Alion revealed at least seven distinctly directional
jets emanating from Three Eye Atlas, radiating in various directions,
including towards the Sunday. Subsequent images revealed the sheer scale
of the jets, stretching millions of miles. The sunward jets
were about six hundred and twenty thousand miles long, while

(52:21):
the anti sunward jets were nearly one point nine million
miles long. This far exceeds any eruptions ever recorded from
a natural comet. These data left the scientific community stand
and skeptical the three Eye Atlas jets are not simply
optical phenomena, but represent energy and density levels far beyond

(52:41):
the limits of natural physics. Let me explain why this
is so baffling from a physics perspective. According to plasma
dynamics models, a jet must overcome the enormous pressure of
the solar wind. The solar wind carries momentum at speeds
of up to two hundred and fifty miles per second.
For a jet to push against this wind, it must

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move thousands of times faster than normal evaporation speed. To
maintain its shape of a distances of up to six
hundred thousand miles, the jet would have to be a
million times denser the natural matter. This is a fit
that would be nearly impossible without artificial mechanisms. Even assuming

(53:24):
the phenomenon is a result of evaporation of carbon dioxide eyes,
which is the most easily sublimated substance, the surface area
required to absorb light would still be equivalent to an
object at least twelve miles in diameter.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
This is far.

Speaker 8 (53:42):
Larger than the Hubble telescope has ever recorded for this object.
That leads to another possibility. Three I atlas may have
broken into many fragments and it is these fragments that
provide the enormal surface area required to generate the observed
violent vaporizeation. If so, the gravity of the Sun will

(54:03):
separate these fragments in the coming weeks, allowing scientists to
determine whether three Eye Atlas is really just a disintegrating
comet or an unnatural object. Even more astonishing, according to
a preliminary estimate I have made, the total mass of
the jets could be as much as five billion tons.
This is an incredibly large number. If it is a

(54:25):
natural phenomenon, three I Atlas would be one of the
strangest objects ever discovered. But if not, then we may
very well be witnessing a physical manifestation of extraterrestrial technology,
a vague but promising clue to other intelligence in the
universe that science is both cautiously and eagerly pursuing. The

(54:46):
latest analysis of three Iyatlas continues to fuel a wave
of curiosity and anxiety in the international scientific community. The
new data suggests that if the object remains intact after
passing perihelion, and if the jets it generates rich speeds
much higher than one three hundred feet per second, or
perhaps even tens of thousands of feed per second, comparable

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to or even exceeding the speeds of rocket engines or
man made ion engines, then the natural scenario is almost
impossible to hold. In that case, the amount of energy
needed to create the jets is only a tiny fraction
of the total mass of the object. This is a
characteristic that perfectly matches the idea of an artificial propulsion mechanism,

(55:36):
suggesting the possibility of a technology from an extraterrestrial civilization
with a level far beyond that of humans.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
According to experts.

Speaker 8 (55:45):
If we can accurately measure the velocity, mass, and chemical
composition of these jets, humanity can soon demarcate the boundary
between natural and artificial.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
I want to stop for a second, because, as he's
talking about here, everything's so far that we've seen with
three ialyists does not look natural. It is doing everything
that is not what we have ever seen from a
comment before, whether it was outside our solar system or
within our solar system. We're talking about jets now. He's
not necessarily talking about the way you think of jets

(56:16):
on an airplane, but he's talking about these almost propulsion
type fuses that come out from this craft or object
to where it is propelling or pushing this thing. And
this is within millions of miles. So could that mean
that it is potentially breaking up? Maybe, but it doesn't

(56:37):
appear that's going to be the case. As it moves
beyond and into this new realm, as it gets towards March,
which is going to be closer to Jupiter, there's going
to be a lot to see there, because if it
is still mostly intact, there's a lot to say. Now.
What I will say also is that the NASA images
that they recently released a couple of days ago showed
this very very blurry.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Blob of life.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
And then you have these amateur backyard astronomers that have
these telescopes that you guys can go buy online and
they hook them up through their ds Lar cameras. They
have these tracking systems on their computer to where it'll
track three IYAT lists, and they are getting images that NASA.
I mean, you would think the multi billion dollar space
agency would be able to get.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
Yeah, well, it's kind of like hiding the Epstein files
the same thing.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
Yeah, they are intentionally not releasing the high def files NASA,
And the reason why we know this is because there
was some there was actually in their imagery that they released.
People found that they did not release the full length.
So essentially, I guess how NASA does this is they'll

(57:46):
put so many stacks of images together to make a
high def image. This is what telescopes do, this is
what you know backyard astronomer photographers do.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
And so what they did actually instead was NASA.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
And the reason why people know this is because the
metadata on the photos is that they released like the
fourth in line photo instead of the fourteenth stack.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Fourteenth stack would.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
Be the most high definition value, so they're releasing like
the third or four stack imagery, which is basically saying that, hey,
we're going to release something very blurry so you can
actually see what we see. And so why would they
be hiding that, Why would they not release the full, unredacted,
full scale, actually high definition image. And yet you have

(58:34):
amateur astronomers that are in their backyards that are recording
three eye out lists. That looks insane. I mean, this
image looks insane. Even a lot of the astronomers that
do this for a living, I mean they do it
on YouTube. They have all these big channels, they're releasing
this and they're saying, look, we've never seen anything like this.
We've recorded comments before, this has come through the Solar System,

(58:56):
We've never seen anything like this, things appearing.

Speaker 6 (59:00):
To be I just thought it was interesting when we
first discovered three I at lists Ivy Lob came out
and started talking about it, and he said he would
give it a forty percent chance of not being a comment,
but being an alien life form coming to visit our
Solar system. I thought those were pretty big odds. Forty percent,

(59:21):
Like that's almost half. And then when I was thinking
about when he said that when it sheds.

Speaker 7 (59:26):
Material that's what we do.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
Basically, when we are launching rockets into space, we shed
materials in order to accelerate.

Speaker 5 (59:36):
Yeah, well we got a shed, I mean especially our propulsion.
Once we actually get into space with this, you know,
non gravitational field that.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
We are entering. Do you want to you want to
get rid of that weight?

Speaker 5 (59:49):
Right, So, even if this thing is shedding some of
us weight, especially heading to Jupiter it got around the Sun,
that wouldn't necessarily still classify it as a comment that
it lost ice articles or whatever. You still couldn't say that, like, well,
this is a comment and so obviously we don't even
got to worry about the same more. But it's like
Auvi Lobe says multiple times, you know the black heron,
or like, are we just going to say that, well,

(01:00:11):
this is likely not an alien spacecraft, so we shouldn't
worry about it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
I don't think that's what we should think about in
this case.

Speaker 5 (01:00:17):
And I think even more so, as we were talking
about the NASA images, the fact that they're lying to
us as almost.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
All government agencies do.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
And you know, there's a post right here it says,
you know, the non gravitational acceleration, and this is what
Auvi Lobe's talking about. Every time you think three ALIS
story can't twist any further, NASA hands you yet another clue.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
They hope you won't notice.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
The latest three ialis update dropped, and once again the
numbers tell a very different story. NASA keeps adjusting the
non gravitational acceleration like.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
They're tuning the radio and hoping nobody notices.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
They adjusted the A one data, which is the radio
non gravitational acceleration term, to fit their narrative, and in
the moment Auvi pointed out that three analysis was lining
up almost perfectly Jupiter's hill radius, the ZAC zone you'd
hit if you wanted to drop something off. The model
changed now, the water ice model was deleted and replaced
with a CO two model, and then the numbers have

(01:01:11):
been shifted just enough to push the trajectory a hair
outside of the target. So the kind of move you
make when the data is saying one thing and the
institution needs it to say something else, this is what
NASA's doing right now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
But the funny thing is.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
That we already know that three I brightened in a
way that the new model can't explain. The luminosity curve
is way steeper than want NASA plugged in, and if
you use that curve that actually fits the object, the
trajectory snaps right back towards the hill radius.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
And this is a very.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Important point because if three I Atlas hits that radius
on March sixteenth, twenty twenty six, even by accident, the
odds aren't unlikely that they're observed, in fact, statistically impossible
in the wild that if it does this right, so
you don't land on a gravity boundary like that unless
you mean to. So the way that we're kind of

(01:01:59):
talking about this is that if we're left, we're basically
left the two options. It's either a cosmic coincidence so
rare it shouldn't even exist, or it is an object
making a deliberate approach towards Jupiter with a purpose. And
so that's what Ovilobe's kind of saying here. But then
when you thought, you know, you talk about the NASA
and what they're doing. NASA is intentionally taking away data

(01:02:22):
and they're hoping you won't check. So three eyetists made
a data problem. They hoped you wouldn't even notice. A
week after NASA dropped their weak high rise image of
three i at lists, most people shrugged and moved on.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Earth exists didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
But they pulled the files, read the headers, and went
line by line through the directory structure. And what's inside
the metadata doesn't match the public narrative, not even close.
And here's a simple version. They didn't struggle to image
three i at lists. That's what NASA has been saying, Oh,
we had a really hard time actually getting an image
of three i at lists, although these backyard astronomers are

(01:02:57):
doing it very perfectly. But they cash high resolution multiban
fourteen bit data and then publicly released one downsampled grade
scale smear that hides almost everything important about this craft.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
That's what they did. Sorry about that.

Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
We were shown the lowest in information version of the event.
Everything important, like the color of the spectrum, the heat,
the structure is sitting off stage. And the only question
left is why are they hiding this? They are hiding this.
They are taken and giving us the lowest resolution image
they possibly can and they are not giving us anything
close to what NASA should be able to show us.

(01:03:34):
So there's something they're hiding. And this doesn't really surprise me.
With government entities, that's what they do. And you know,
if we know anything about COVID or follow the science,
or follow this, or follow our institutions.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
We know they all lie to us.

Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
And you know, although you know everybody always talks about like, well,
if you're a conspiracy podcast, you want to talk about aliens,
you want to talk about this, you shouldn't talk about politics.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
You should not even get into politics.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
But politics have everything to do with this, because politics
literally are the bodies of people that are the commanding
structure and likely people behind them that hide information and
data from us, from the people, from humans on Earth
that likely they knew a lot more about, right, And
the question would be is like why would they hide
something like why would they hide if they know if

(01:04:20):
NASA actually has indications that this is intelligent or a
man made or a an alien made craft.

Speaker 7 (01:04:27):
Well, I know why.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
It's kind of the same thing when I was a
teacher in our principle would not tell us every It's
not that they lied, but they wouldn't tell us all
the truth because they don't want us to fear or
like freak out about stuff, so they just didn't tell us.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Yeah. Maybe, I mean you could go with that theory.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
I guess that you know, they want to hide the
truth from us because they don't want to scared, right,
that's always with the theory why they're hiding alien.

Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
And they do that in every realm of life.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Now, I think that likely the reason this is my
theory and it's my opinion. I have no idea, but
I think the reason why that the government would hide
alien life or supernatural life. Maybe it is supernatural, right,
Maybe it's not even alien life. Maybe it's not like
physical bodies and a craft, but maybe it is signs
of a supernatural world. A god world, a spiritual world

(01:05:23):
that they have been trying to hide from us for years.
They've been they've been using science to try to disprove God.
They've been using science to try to disprove Jesus. But
and you might ask yourself why, Well, because they know
that they need control over the people on this earth.
And if people really are to the utmost possibilities spiritual

(01:05:44):
in nature, to where they believe that the ruler over
our bodies and our soul is God and God only,
it's going to be really hard probably to control people
in the way that you want them to, especially when
the governments are corrupt. They are in my opinion, you
know a lot of government entities are evil. I think
they're controlled by evil. I think there's a reason why.

(01:06:07):
I mean, this sounds very conspiratorial, but if you look
back throughout history and you read the Bible, and you
read all of the text and the disciples and all
of the leaders, which is what they call the kingdoms
throughout history, most of those kingdoms were very evil people.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
They were very harsh and very I guess you can
say brutal.

Speaker 6 (01:06:28):
To their cities and think about it. The people that
are the leaders that top ten percent. They are the
ones that are evil and they're leading the rest of
the population, and we are the rest of the population.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
Yeah, they want to be God's Yeah, you know, that's
why they're trying to play God. There's a reason why
that people don't like the fact that, you know, they
are working on clones right now, they're doing bioengineering meats
or you know, I guess printed meats. They're trying to
go away from everything natural that we can possibly go
away from. And they're also creating ideologies or or almost

(01:07:03):
like new religions based on LGBTQ plus or or fascism
or communism or Republican a Democrat. I mean, these are
almost becoming religions and to where it's taking out God
completely out of the equation of how we look at
the world, how we look at life.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
And you know, it's it's that's why, like some of
the things I see.

Speaker 6 (01:07:23):
That I don't think Republicans take God out of life.
I think more of the Republicans are religious.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
Yeah, in appearance. In appearance, I would say, but I don't,
you know, I don't truly I agree with you. Well,
I just I don't know. I mean, you know if
if you can, if you can look at certain places
or certain things on earth, like for example, some like Republicans,
let's just talk about George Bush or whoever, where we

(01:07:51):
go over and just kill thousands, venice of people.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
We've done that many times around the world.

Speaker 7 (01:07:54):
But he was a leader.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
He was not just the population like we are, Like
we are the little key ons that are looking at
these leaders and they're the ones leading, and we have
to follow whatever they do.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
No, we don't have to follow whatever they do.

Speaker 7 (01:08:08):
Well, we have, however elected, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:08:11):
We have no choice, right, Yeah, and it's whoever's elected.
I mean, they make you vote on one side or
the other. What I'm saying is like you talk about
like leaders are very religious people and they love.

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
God and Jesus.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I mean, they really often follow that Jesus model that like,
let's not kill innocent people, Let's not do very corrupt stuff,
let's not.

Speaker 6 (01:08:31):
The Republican model is pro life. They don't believe in abortion,
they don't believe in taking lives. That is the model
of Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:40):
But all I'm saying is that I just I have
I guess had a new awakening that you know, government
in general is corrupt, corrupt, and it doesn't matter what.

Speaker 7 (01:08:53):
I have the same awakening as you do.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
And I think both sides are liars. Yeah too, and
I truly do so. So if that's the case, then
how can you say that, Well, the Republicans are Christians,
so don't worry about.

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
I'm not talking about necessarily the leaders, but I'm talking
about the group as a whole. I think if you
look at Democrats as a whole versus Republicans as a whole,
Democrats are non religious people and Republicans lean more towards Christianity.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
Yeah, I guess, I don't know, but I do think that,
you know, I think both sides are corrupt. I think that,
you know. Unfortunately, I mean, I wish I didn't say that.
I was really hoping that like new things would happen
and we would finally be a people in America to
where everybody trusted their government finally, and I don't feel

(01:09:43):
like that's happening. But I also feel like that the
more I'm kind of getting into just my spiritual journey,
the more I'm starting to really understand and realize that
it's not you should always pray for your leaders, right,
because you always want them to be guided by God
and not their pride, and not their arrogance, and not
their factions of people that are paying them millions of dollars.

(01:10:05):
That's why you pray for those people. But oftentimes throughout
history the leaders are the ones that have that have
killed their people, that have enslaved their people. And many
times God's the one that comes down and wipes that
all away. And it'll happen one way or the other.
You know, every nation that becomes too big or too arrogant,
or too egotistic, or or too brutal or too murderous,

(01:10:29):
God will eventually come.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Down and rain hell on them.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
And I think that, you know, I think that's what
I'm saying, is like instead of for me, especially over
the past eight to ten years, to where I guess
in some ways I was seeking.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
A home maybe in like you know, hey, we.

Speaker 5 (01:10:50):
Think Trump's good, and I do think Trump's better for
this country than what we had the option of for sure.
But what I'm saying is I'm putting more of my
faith in God than I am a tribal realistic political party.

Speaker 7 (01:11:02):
You're just trying to pray for our leaders.

Speaker 5 (01:11:04):
You get that, you know, and I would do the
same for I'm praying for our people because I think
that's the most important. And I do think the Bible
specifically talks a lot about that leaders are put in
place for a reason, and it doesn't matter how bad
or good they are, They're there for a reason and
it's all according to God's plan. Because as if anybody
has read the Bible, and as we see things leading

(01:11:26):
up to further and further and getting closer and closer
to all the things that said was going to happen,
all of the people that are in leadership positions are
there for a reason and it's all part of the plan.
And some I always say too, it's like it's already written.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:11:40):
We can see here and talk about it all day
and every day, and we can analyze what's going on.
But what if you're a Bible believe if you believe
in God, then you know that God already has the plan.
He already knows what's going to happen. And so that's
why I do encourage everybody that no matter what we
talk about on this podcast and maybe how the president
can be, maybe how scary some things can be, just

(01:12:00):
understand that if you do believe in God and you
believe that your soul is going to go somewhere else,
side of your body wants you leave this earth, which
I truly believe, you don't have to worry because God
already knows that. He already knows what you're about to
go through. And we're not the first people to go
through stuff. It's been throughout history. You're right, you know
the more And that's the crazy thing. The more I've researched, like,

(01:12:21):
the more I realize, like, yes, we are in a
bad time in our world right now, but there's been
some very bad times in history also.

Speaker 6 (01:12:28):
Oh yeah, I mean very bad, but way worse than
what we're going through right now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Absolutely for sure.

Speaker 7 (01:12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
But I think I think too.

Speaker 5 (01:12:36):
It's like, you know, we are a generation right now
to where I think we're lucky to be alive in
this generation because I think things are very much progressing.
But I also think that that leaders are able to
use things on our minds and weaponize those things in
ways that we've never seen before to manipulate us.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
But there's also leaders that have leaders and that's a
big problem.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
Yeah, we don't know who a lot of those are
and I almost guarantee you that a lot of those
leaders behind the scenes are very evil people. You know,
it goes back to the Watchers the Book of Enoch
where those that bloodline, that bloodline from the Nephlum still
exists today. You know, there's a reason why so many
presidents are somehow blood related throughout the history.

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
Well, and it goes for like the Freemasons, and it
goes into all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
Yeah, they're trying to maintain their bloodline. Same thing with
the royals in Europe or in the United Kingdom and stuff.
Are in Britain, they maintain their bloodline because why do
you maintain your bloodline that because it was appointed? You
know that there's something in your bloodline that is different
than everybody else. They call it royal bloodline. But could

(01:13:46):
it be Nephelin bloodline. Could it be some type of
very sadistic bloodline that existed that made them rulers throughout history?
And you know, the more I read, and the more
I read, and the more I understand and realize the
lineage of leaders throughout history, they're all somehow and in
a lot of ways connected. I believe to that Nephluin bloodline.

(01:14:07):
Not all of them are, but almost everybody I read
in history is connected somehow to the watchers coming down
in Enoch, creating the Nephilum, and then that bloodline of
rulers really never stopped, and I don't think it's stopped
throughout from then thousands of years ago to now. And
I could be you know, you might think I'm crazy,

(01:14:29):
but it would be something that you would have to
read and start to kind of wrap your mind around.
And like, the more books I read about it, the
more I'm starting to realize is like, Okay, I understand
maybe why these presidents and these leaders are all somehow connected.
I understand why their fathers and their fathers and their
fathers were over intelligence or over this or over that,

(01:14:50):
because they have to all control the narrative. And those
are the people that are appointed and there's a reason why.
Also the people that have bloodlines are paying the money
to make sure these people are pointed and put into
power and put into office. It goes very deep, and
I know we're we got a little bit either political
and spiritual, especially with the three Ilist thing. But as
we look at a object in our solar system, and

(01:15:12):
we question whether or not this could even be real.
And even as Aviy Lowe himself said on Joe Rogan,
he says, people think that I'm literally saying this to
you know, take away attention from the Epstein files, like
I created this, And.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
What they're really talking about is is blue Oh my god, blue.

Speaker 7 (01:15:29):
Book, Operation blue Beam, blue Bee.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
I'm losing my mind.

Speaker 5 (01:15:36):
But yeah, what people are talking about when they're saying
as operation blue Beam to where they fake an alien
evasion and you know, then they make everybody essentially trust
the government and you know all of that. So we've
done podcasts on that. You guys can go back and
listen to them, but let us know what you think.
Is three I atlas a comment or could it be

(01:15:57):
intelligently controlled?

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
And what is your thoughts on honestly?

Speaker 7 (01:16:00):
Yeah? And would you be scared if it is?

Speaker 5 (01:16:03):
No, I'm not scared at all because it doesn't change
anything from my belief system whatsoever. But what I do
want to know is like, what do you guys think
of God? Do you think he exists? Do you do
you believe in Jesus? Do you believe in the Bible?
Is something that we've been on the spiritual journey for
for a very long time. We've literally had people go
on our social media say I wish you guys had
quit talking about Jesus. Just shut the hell up about Jesus.

(01:16:24):
You know It's like okay, bro, Like that's that's just.

Speaker 1 (01:16:27):
Not what's going to happen. I mean, you know, I.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
We're going to tell you everything about what we're going
through and our battles and our and anybody that's been
listening for any amount of time knows that we've been
going through the struggle for a while. But yeah, this
isn't a this isn't a spiritual or biblical podcast. But
I think everything is connected in some way, and that's why.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
That's why literally we.

Speaker 5 (01:16:49):
Got on this subject from three eye Atlasts and so,
like I said, let us know what you guys think.
Do you think three eye olysts is a comment or
do you think that it is intelligently controlled? And could
it be a sign from the heavens as the Bible
talks about. Could it be something that the Bible says
in the end times, look to the skies, look to

(01:17:12):
the heavens, because I will show you the signs when
the time is near.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Till next time. Guys, we love you all very much.

Speaker 7 (01:17:18):
Peace out, So please.

Speaker 10 (01:17:21):
Just tell me what's on your mind, because I.

Speaker 11 (01:17:32):
Don't have time to figure it out.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
Figure it out.

Speaker 11 (01:17:40):
We haven't been our best for a thing that we
just hold and know to something that won't work out.
Maybe we should walk away, see goodbye and go we set.

Speaker 12 (01:17:56):
It please, By can feel it deep inside.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
We will never work the side. We will never work
the side, by can and feel it deep inside. We
would never work the South. We would never work the.

Speaker 10 (01:18:23):
South of falling, falling down? What's happening right now?

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
Thank for falling down? Thank for falling down.

Speaker 13 (01:18:46):
I tried so hard to make you anything, and I
know that.

Speaker 10 (01:19:00):
You charge your beasts well.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
To make me smart.

Speaker 10 (01:19:29):
And I can feel it deep inside. We will never
work the South. We will never work the.

Speaker 12 (01:19:39):
Sound can fail it deep inside.

Speaker 10 (01:19:45):
We will never work the South. We would never work
this side the falling, falling, do what's happening right Thank

(01:20:07):
falling down?

Speaker 12 (01:20:09):
I think the falling, I think to falling.

Speaker 10 (01:20:14):
I thank for falling down, I thank for falling down,

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