3I/ATLAS | Alien Spacecraft or Comet? UFO Podcasts - Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Hello, and welcome to Investigator with Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm your host Shada alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On
tonight's episode, we're talking about something strange that is moving
through our solar system. They're calling it three I Atlas,
an interstellar comment spotted just weeks ago, hurtling toward the
inner Planet's at over one hundred and thirty thousand miles
per hour. It's older than our sun, venting water and
gas long before it should, and following a path that's

(00:52):
anything but ordinary. Most scientists are calling it a comment,
but some, including Harvard's Zbbie Love, are asking a far
more provocative question. What if it's not just rock and
eyes from deep space? What if it is intelligently controlled.
So now we're going to pull apart the data, the theories,
and the possibilities and ask whether three Eye at Lists
might be the most mysterious visitor our skies have ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Guys, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It is August the thirteenth, twenty twenty five, and that
song is the X Files and Neo Geo dubstep remix.
For those that have never watched The X Files, I
do encourage you guys to go back and check it out,
because when I was young, I watched the X Files.
There's a lot of people share you. I know, you
were saying that you watched like CSI.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
And stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
I watched all the crime stuff. I didn't really watch
all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, I mean, well, back when I was a kid,
we had like the X Files, we had Rescue nine
one one, we had like Unsolved Mysteries.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I don't know if anybody ever remember those shows.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Yeah, I liked all those but I didn't watch all
the stuff that had to do with aliens because I
don't know, I just thought it was out there.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, of course it was out there back in the day.
But now we are getting reports from three i AT lists. Obviously,
over the past ten years, we've had more sightings or
at least reports of potential UAPs and UFOs in our
own skies. And I can't even tell you, guys, how
many times we get messages or emails from you sending
us a very strange looking lights or orbs, or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
The case may be.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
We actually just had someone yesterday sent us some pictures
of something that was in the sky, and it was
interesting because when they saw or sent these pictures, I know,
there was I guess some type of meteor shower happening
last night, so that would have been August the twelfth.
But man, I started seeing this stuff all over the internet,
and there was one in particular case that there were

(02:37):
people seeing in Arizona, in Oklahoma and even in Philadelphia
and all over the United States. It was some object
that came through the atmosphere and had a very weird signature,
like it didn't look like anything you would ever see.
It didn't look like a satellite, it didn't look like
a comment or star, it didn't look like any of
that stuff. It was like, however, this thing came through

(02:59):
the atmosphere almost like I don't know, if you ever
like butterscotch, you know how you can wrap the candy
in thing and it has both sides kind of like
looks like a bo sort of. This thing had a
signature like that on both sides, so it had like
almost a propulsion.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
On the back and front.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
And so there was a lot of people sending this
last night and then I, you know, I was on
the internet today and I just saw tons of people
posting this and I was like, wow, that is pretty nuts,
especially considering there were people like waiting on this meteor shower,
which did happen, but this one particular incident, And when
you know, I started seeing these emails and these messages

(03:36):
and I only saw two of them. Two people message
us last night and they say, hey, check this out,
and I actually only I think saw one last night,
and then today I saw another one. Then I started
reading other emails and I was like, oh wait, there's
a lot of people sending this exact same looking thing.
And then on the internet today, on x and on
Facebook and some other places, people were posting pictures are like,
what the hell is this now?

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Is this just in America or people?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I think it was mostly the United States?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, I would think so.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, I think it was mostly in the United States
last night that people were seeing this mysterious object that
had a very very weird and strange signature. Now, for
those that have not been following this podcast for seven
or eight years, one of my favorite subjects is UFOs
UAPs the whole phenomenon. And obviously we've also gotten into,

(04:24):
you know, the biblical stuff, We've gotten into the interdimensional stuff.
We've talked about cern we've talked about UAP's UFOs. We've
had Ashton Forbes on where we talked about MMA Street
seventy and those orb like things that.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Potentially abducted three seventy.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, who knows what happened, but you know, that's something
that Ashton Forbes has been on for a very long time.
And Ashen, if you guys go back and listen to
our podcast episodes with him, you know, Ashen has pretty
much been on the path of there's no question in
his mind that if these videos are real, the MA
Street seventy videos, that it is advanced technology from our government. Now,

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there's also a lot of people that said, well, I'm
not necessarily going to negate the fact that maybe these
videos are real, especially considering all of the research and
evidence to Ashen is put forward. But then there have
been other people that say, I don't think though, that
we have this type of technology. I do not think
the United States has this type of technology. These orb
like things that travel, you know, without propulsion, They travel

(05:28):
you know, at mock speeds, they can disappear, they utilize
each other for it looks like either propulsion or some
type of wormhole type event. And so there have been
other people that said, Look, I don't necessarily think the
videos are fake. I just think that what we are
looking at, even with ma S three seventy, is not
our technology or anybody else's. I think this was something
else intelligently controlled that is not of this earth, or

(05:50):
at least that we know of, right.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
I remember the first time we had Ashton Forbe on
our podcast and he was telling us about these orbs.
I'm like, holy cow, these are orbs in the are
not what we have, There's no way. And this was
what two or three years ago, like probably two.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Or three years yeah, I mean we were the first
podcast to have Ashon on. It was the very first
podcast he ever did. He had no followers, and.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Nobody freaked out to even come on a podcast because
he always he even did like this disclaimer in the beginning,
like I am not this, I'm not that, and you know,
don't come at me, basically. But it was very interesting
when he started talking about it, because I didn't really
know a lot about this this plane. But when he
was talking about it and he's talking about these orbs
surrounding it at that time, I don't even think he

(06:35):
had a theory either. No, he was like Ashton. This
is god to be like alien intelligence. There's no way
that it could be anything else. Look at how it is,
look at these little orbs going around. But now that
we've talked about it for three years, three or four years,
my mind has changed a little bit. And I definitely
believe that we have advanced technology like that, and I

(06:57):
think that we have been using this it's technology and
just the citizens don't know about it. You think about
Area fifty one, for example, people see all kinds of
crazy stuff out there, and you know, even when you
do a flight simulator and go out there, there's just
crazy stuff that's still going on at Area fifty one.

(07:18):
But they say it's no longer going on out there.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Well, no, I think most of the you know programs
or whatever, the reverse engineering programs that we have of today,
I think most of that has been moved underground. I
don't even think Area fifty one likely is even being
used anymore for that type of stuff. And like Sherry's
talking about, and let me just make sure everybody understands this.
On flight simulator, yes, you can fly on flight simulator

(07:42):
over Area fifty one. You can actually see the lay
of the land. You can kind of see you know,
some of the structures or I guess underground entry points
is what I will call it now Fallen, which is
kind of near Fallon, Nevada. It is north of Las Vegas.
You have obviously Groom Lake, which is also Area fifty one,
and then essentially the entire part of the entire center

(08:04):
section of Nevada is a classified military exercise area. So
as pilots or anybody that's flying over, you have to
be at a certain altitude. You cannot fly below a
certain altitude. And a large part of that is because
of the fact that this is where we test a
lot of weapons. This is where our F twenty two
fighter jets will go and perform bomb drops or missile testing, guns,

(08:28):
testing our F thirty fives, our helicopters, everybody, basically everybody
in our arsenal in the military. This is one of
their main training zones. So there is reason why, number one,
that this entire region of Nevada is highly classified and
roped off, and they have Camo dudes, the guys in
the white trucks. They have, you know, surveillance everywhere around

(08:50):
this site. And it's not just Area fifty one, it's
literally most of the testing ranges in the middle of Nevada.
But that still doesn't mean that you can't see, even
on flight simulator, where there are huge mounds in the.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
Middle of Nevada Desert.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And it's so funny how they will even flight simulator
because it uses all the data from satellite imagery. But
when you're able to actually fly over the land or
the desert or this you know, these training zones or
these classified zones, it you know, flight similar does a
great job at replicating what this ground actually looks like

(09:25):
from the satellite imagery. And so, yes, there are massive
mounds in this region, and there are roads that go
into what looks to be or appears to be tunnels.
So obviously these tunnels are going underground somewhere, and there
are many of these. It's not just one, it's not
just two. They're like, you know, fifty to one hundred
within a fifty mile radius in the Nevada Desert. And

(09:46):
so when you think about Area fifty one, yes that's
been the most famous. But if you go back to
Bob Lazar for example, where he said that he worked
on reverse engineering technology in Area fifty one slash S
four as far as another res.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
We saw biologics from some kind of aliens that do
not exist on Earth.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, he said that, and then he kind of walked
it back and then he said it again. So we
don't one hundred percent know what Bob Isar's stance on
that is. But what we do know is that he
did see a craft. They wanted him to try to
figure out what the propulsion was. And then later on
thirty forty fifty years later, I guess it's probably about
thirty or forty years later. Now you know, we start

(10:25):
hearing these reports of this advanced technology, these tic tac UFOs,
these things that are appearing off the West coast. We
have heard Ryan Graves, which is a fighter pilot F
eighteen Navy fighter pilot that operated off the East coast
multiple I mean, you know, he operated off the East
coast every single day for two or three years in
training when he was not deployed, and so their pilots

(10:47):
experienced and encountered these things on a regular basis. But
the one thing that Bob Blazar said, even back in
his interview, this was back in the late eighties early nineties.
The one thing he said, and Howie did describe these objects.
Is exactly the way that Commander David fravr Off the
West coast of San Diego explained this tic tac ufo.

(11:08):
It's the same way that Ryan Graves also explained this
UFO or these UFOs into some degree. And then you
also have people like, you know, Jeremy Corbel. There's a
lot of people that think Jeremy Corbel and all these
others are grifters, and.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
Look, that may be the case.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Everyone's going to grift on something that they attached themselves to,
and you know how much of it is bullshit versus
real or whatever. That's what you guys have to figure out.
You know, there's people that call Ashton Forbes grifters. There's
people that call Greenwald or whatever.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
His name is.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Is it Greenwald or green I can't remember his name,
but either way, what I'm trying to make a point
of this is is that we had accounts from Bob
Blazarre that everybody used to say he was completely psycho
and crazy, and then years later a lot of the
accounts of military pilots that have seen stuff, well it
kind of goes back to Bob Bazar's report. But this
is not just Bob Blazar story. This goes back to Roswell,

(11:59):
New Mexico. I mean and Roswell in New Mexico. If
you think about the M three seventy story and the
fact that maybe we have orbs that could put, you know,
possibly teleport an airplane, right, that's the theory. Do you
really think that we would have had that back in
the forties, I mean back in the time of the
Roswell incident. And it's not just Roswell. You got to
go back even further than that. We had reports of

(12:21):
UFOs and UAP phenomenon in the thirties, we had them
in the twenties, and then we also have had early
or early civilizations of ourselves that have also had cave
drawings and in the descriptions, Biblical descriptions, yes, all of
this stuff. So to say that we've had advanced technology
out there for thousands of years is just not accurate.

(12:42):
And I don't necessarily think that we I guess what
I will say here is that it's not that I'm
saying that for sure we do not have advanced technology
like UAPs or UFOs that we see or maybe some
of our pilots have seen in the skies. But I
just think that it's both at the very least. Yeah,
I think that something else is here. I don't know

(13:03):
that it's all physical. I think that some of it
is interdimensional. I think they are crossing a plane that
we don't quite understand. And I think in some cases
they do cross a plane into our physical reality, our
physical dimension. So that doesn't make a lot of sense
to a lot of people, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
It doesn't. But you've got to think about this too.
These things that Bob Lazarre was trying to recreate had
no propulsion. Any aircraft that we have as far as
like in our army, Navy, military, whatever, we're commercial, they
have all propulsion. We don't have any crafts that don't
use propulsion that we know of as citizens. But behind

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the scenes, I think we are using them. And you
just think about drones for example, that we have now
even you know, and that's just come around in the
last few years.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, I mean, and you know, you think about drones
and warfare nowadays, you think about all that stuff, and
we are using drones in warfare on an everyday basis.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
We're using it.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
And you I say we because a lot of those
drones are probably some type of US weaponry or even
on the smaller scale where these guys in the Ukraine
the military are buying up the dgis the drones.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
You can literally go buy it Best Buy.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
All that to say this, there's a lot of weird
behavior about this new object that we have recently discovered
called three I at lists. And so here's some of
the anomalies in the behavior in trajectory. We have had
other visitors in our solar system before a Muamua, which
we'll talk about in just a little bit, was discovered,
I believe back in twenty seventeen. Avi Lob also wrote

(14:34):
a paper on that. He talked about that very extensively.
But let's talk about three I at lists. First, anomalies
in this is the glow in the front and not
a trailing tell. So Hubble images show a surprising forward
facing glow rather than the usual tell that commets developed
pointing away from the sun. It's as if the comment
is basically shining at us from the front, which is

(14:55):
highly unusual. You know, it's almost like something is pulling
it rather than You also have the trajectory, which is
just too precise. It's path aligns with the plane of
our solar system within five degrees, which is a very
rare occurrence. Estimated chances are point two percent. Even more
striking is how it seems to weave past Venus, Mars,

(15:16):
and Jupiter with uncanny precision, something calculated to occur by
chance only in point zero zero zero five percent of
the time. And then you have the Pahelian timing when
Earth is blind, so as close as approach to the
Sun happens when Earth is on its opposite side, so
it's raised eyebrows. Say that maybe this thing is intelligently

(15:38):
controlled to where it is doing this on purpose. Some
suggest that this delay is being observable basically cleverly timed maneuver,
so it's not something.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
That is just random. They're going to do this in this.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Timing so that they are able to hide and maybe
we're not able to see whatever it is that these
that this is doing.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Whatever.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's got to remember, this thing is humongous. This is
like the size of Manhattan. It's so large.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, it's huge.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Talking about that composition quirks and activity patterns, there's no
classic comic gases detected early on, so initial spectromedy found
no signs of cn C two, C three, or CO,
which is the typical gases you would expect in a
comment's exhaustions. And then water activity surprisingly early and widespread
despite being far from the sun. Swift's ultraviolet observation of

(16:30):
detected water via OH emission at a rate of about
forty kilograms per second suggests that over twenty percent of
its surface is active, and a level rarely seen in
known comments at that distance. So what we're seeing with
this comment, quote unquote or whatever this thing is is
behaving very erratically. It is behaving weird. It is behaving

(16:52):
in ways that we cannot explain scientifically. Although yes, mainstream
science is racing to try to explain this the best
way they possibly can, but I don't think they're doing
quite the job that they should be yet. Because Abbi Lobe,
you know, he is a guy that is extremely intelligent.
I think he's an astrophysicist, and you know, he's a
professor Harvard. He's written a lot of reports on advanced propulsion.

(17:16):
He's also written reports on UFO's interstellar travel, you name it.
He is the guy that you would want to figure
out this thing with. And he's really one of the
only ones that's kind of standing out and saying, look,
this is something different. This is not something that we've
ever seen before. It is it is acting completely not
like a comment on various levels, and it's not just

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on one level to where you know, for example, we
have this glow from the front not the back. You know,
it is emitting water when it shouldn't be, which could
also potentially be some type of exhaust or going into
a maybe a condensation area, which is could also be
possible with propulsion.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
There's a lot of variable That's what's.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Really crazy when you think about what we've done as
far is reverse engineering crafts that don't have propulsion, You
wouldn't think it would have a proulsion. But I was
listening to an interview the other night and they were saying,
you know, if it was an alien craft, maybe they're
mimicking that to make it look like it's a comment.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Sure, absolutely, and they could be. But even still if
they were mimicking it, which is possible, right, they're still
not getting a lot of things right because a typical
comment does not behave this way. And I think that's
why Ave Loobe and other scientists have come out and said, look, guys,
we have to look at this in a real type
of scope, not just based on everything that we have

(18:37):
been indoctrinated through science in a lot of ways to
say that, hey, there's no life out there beyond our planet.
A lot of science just already takes that notion to
the bank from the very beginning, anytime that they research anything.
Just kind of compare it to like the COVID vaccine.
If people are paid or they are indoctrinated into a
certain set of a certain mindset, then all science is

(18:58):
going to come out and say no, you either get
the vaccine or you die. There is no herd immunity,
there is no natural immunity, There is no vitamins that's
going to save you. There is no exercise that might
make you healthier. You either take the vaccine or you don't.
That is a clear definition of what science is, especially
over the past four to ten years. But I think

(19:18):
science has been like that a lot. Science has always
been infiltrated. They've always been funded and paid by the
people that wanted to, you know, push an agenda. I
want to go ahead and get into this clip. This
is everything so far that we know about three I
atlasts and then I'm going to get into Avi lobe
and what he says about this on a recent podcast listen.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
Difficult for us humans to fully comprehend the enormity of space.
We are comfortable in our own cosmic neighborhood, the Solar System,
and I used to familiar faces like Jupiter, Mars, and
of course Earth. But out there, over eighteen billion kilometers
away from the Sun and beyond the Helio Pause, it's

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the cold of of interstellar space.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
The two Voyager probes are the only man made.

Speaker 6 (20:06):
Objects ever to cross this threshold to this day, and
until recently, only two known objects have ever made the
opposite journey passing from interstellar space.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
Into the Solar System.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
These were the famous and More and More in twenty
seventeen and Borisov in twenty nineteen, which brought with them
the thrill and perhaps even fear, of being visited by
something from the depths of space that humans cannot hope
to reach in our lifetimes. In the six years since
these visits, we've been enjoying some respite, but a recent

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observation has forced us to sit up and pay attention
once more. Comet three I Atlas, the third interstellar object
ever observed, which will make its closest approach to our
Sun before the year is out. Three iye Atlas has
had a few different names in the short time we've

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been aware of it, but recent revelations about where this
object came from and where it is heading turned this
otherwise indistinguishable space rock into something worth taking note of.
On the first of July this year, the NASA funded
Atlas Survey Telescope was performing its usual telescope scanning the
skies above for moving objects. The ATLAS project, or Asteroid

(21:29):
Terrestrial Impact Last Alert system, consists of four telescopes across Chile,
South Africa, and Hawaii. These telescopes each take around eight
hundred images every night, and at the time of writing
they have registered one thy two hundred and twelve near
Earth objects that will pass within one point three astronomical

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units of our planet at perihelion. But on this particular night,
the telescope in Rio Hurtado, Chile, reported some news worthy observations.
The Atlas telescopes are rather unique for their ability to
survey the galactic plane, the bright disc shaped region of

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our galaxy where most of its mass lies see.

Speaker 5 (22:15):
Other surveys like.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Pans Stars and the Catalina Sky Survey are often too
sensitive to photograph this area without facing overexposure, so they
tend to avoid it altogether. From the direction of the
Sagittarius constellation, the Atlas telescope took four thirty second survey
images and found an object that was making a bee

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line towards our Solar system. The object was initially named
A one one PL three Z and quickly caught the
attention of the Minor Planet Center in Cambridge, Massachusetts. As
the designated authority in charge of labeling and tracking minor
bodies in the Solar System. The NPC quickly put out
an electronic circular about this new visitor, detailing all of

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its previous observations and providing information about its trajectory. In
doing so, astronomers realized that, in fact, this object was
no stranger to us. As it turned out, the Vicky
Transient Facility in California and the other three at the
telescopes had all made prediscovery observations of this object dating

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back as far as the fourteenth of June. With all
of this data, the NPC deduced that the object had
a hyperbolic and highly eccentric orbit, so much so that
it had originated from interstellar space. This realization earned the
object the name of three I Atlas, as it is
the third interstellar object to infiltrate our Solar System.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
At first, the NPC could not be certain.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Whether this object was an asteroid or a comet, until
the combined data revealed that it had a coma, a
diffuse halo of dust and gas produced when ice is
exposed to solar radiation and sublimates. This feature is far
more typical of comets, which gave this object yet another
name see twenty twenty five N one. The NBC has

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called for additional observations of this comet to help constrain
its trajectory, so we can expect a flurry of new
data in the upcoming months, and astronomers are naturally very excited.
Michelle Banister, an astronomer at the University of Canterbury in
New Zealand, explain that working on the two previous visits
from interstellar objects were transformational opportunities science wise, so it's

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likely that this visitor will encourage the same. But what
do we already know about this latest interstellar visitor, and
what do scientists hope it can teach us in the
near future. Firstly, don't worry because this comment will pose
no threat to Earth. At its closest approach to our planet,

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it will still be around one point six astronomical units away.
That's over six hundred times further than the Moon is
from Earth. So since we're able to watch from a
safe distance, what kind of journey will this comet take?
As I mentioned, three I Atlas has a highly eccentric orbit,

(25:21):
currently measuring at an evalue of around six. For reference,
an eccentricity of zero represents a perfect circle, and anything
above one is great enough for the object to escape
the gravitational pull of the body it is orbiting and
will move more freely through space. So with an eccentricity

(25:42):
of six, this comet has one of the most extreme
hyperbolic orbits yet measured.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
And I'll point out something real quick, because this is
obviously a video from Astroum. It is a YouTube channel
and they are mostly the scientific side of stuff. But
as he is talking about even here, there are so
many different variables two three I at Liss that just
we've never seen before. You know, when we're talking about

(26:09):
like how it's kind of made its way through our
solar system so far and avoided the gravitational pull from
some of these planetary or these planets. It doesn't make
a lot of sense, right, And so this has a
six EC score, right, which means most comments usually have
a one or two.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
This has a six a six.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
The close the higher you go up in this scale,
the more possible it is, for example, that this thing
can avoid objects for whatever reason. Now you would have
to somehow explain that on the actual comment quote unquote itself,
because nothing gives that six score from a planetary perspective,

(26:50):
meaning like if it moves if the same So if
a comet moves past Jupiter, for example, that comment is
going to have a score an EC score of say two.
And if it has an EC score of two, and
then this exact same object moves in the exact same path,
but then does something very strange or differently when it
gets near the exact same path or near this gravitational poll,

(27:12):
this field, whatever this thing is doing, is doing something
and behaving very differently around gravitational poll or planetary structures.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
So it's detracting instead of attracting.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, it's kind of moving away, so it's avoiding these planets,
it's avoiding gravitational pole. And then only that you have
this minutes of this halo, but not the typical halo,
not this bright type of halo which you would find
I guess what you would find familiar with a comet,
which is a comet trail from the back of it.

(27:47):
This thing has something from the front of it. And
what does that mean. There's a lot of stuff that
three iyeatlyses do in that is defying gravity. And that
is one of the things that auvi Lobe has pointed out,
you know there with this ec SK thing that he's
talking about here, a lot of that almost all of
that actually has to do with gravitational scale and how

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that object is affected by gravity. And so, for example,
if you had a intelligently controlled craft that you could
then push or move or propulse away from a gravitational
field because maybe you knew that was coming up, you know,
I would assume that if we had and rated that
whatever that intelligent craft was we knew was an intelligent
craft it pushed away from this gravitational field, then we

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would rate that somewhere in this neighborhood a six to
eight EC scale, and so that's the difference, right. The
most comments have this one or two scale, which it
shows that it reacts similarly to this gravitational field that
we see around planetary or even in our Solar system,
but not only just the gravity part of it is
also the minutes of not only gas but water, and

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this thing is completely acting differently than anything we've witnessed before.
And we're not even just talking about the three inner
stellar objects. When we talk about interstellar objects, there's been three.
Mua was one, yeah, Muhamua was in twenty seventeen, which
we'll talk.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
About a little.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Then there was one in two nineteen, there was yeah,
there was.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
One in twenty nineteen, and and Muama was also very strange.
It propulsed differently, it was very it was a very
weird object, and it has now since moved past, but
even now some of our studies are shown it is
still behaving very oddly. So this three I atlas is similar,
but there are even more weird things going on because

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it's not just the gravitational thing that is happening. That
the anominally I guess you can say, but it is
also how it is emitting water long before it should
be and much more water than it should be emitting.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
From a comment.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
As I'm listening and talking about this, you know, this
is what comes to my mind. It might sound stupid,
I don't know, but what if it is magnetized? What
if it has two ends that are detracting the pole
and it's making it go away from the planets.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
I mean, it's very possible.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I have no idea. You'd have to ask someone like
Avi Lob that or maybe even Ash in Forbes. At
this point, I don't know the Ash kind of studies that.
But you know, most comments are made of well rock
and metal. I mean there's a lot of metal, right, But.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
What if it is magnetized or it has like opposite
poles where it's putting it in directions that it goes
around planets or whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
But that kind of leads to I guess that the
conversation of is this intelligently controlled. We're going to listen
to some more of this and then we're going to
get into what Avi Lobe says, and we're going to
get into the conspiracy stuff. There's been some guys whistleblowers
out there. I know that Jeremy Corbel has talked about
a lot of this with the three I at Lists.
I know a lot of these people are talking about it,
but we also have some conspiracy stuff we're also going

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to get.

Speaker 6 (30:48):
Into, which may explain how it is able to travel
so far through space to reach us. What's more surprising
is the speed with which this is traveling. Its current
incoming velocity is a rapid fifty eight kilometers per second.
That's like running the length of five hundred and eighty

(31:12):
four bow pitches every second. This breakneck speed makes three
Eye Atlas the fastest traveling interstellar comet we have ever seen.
More and More and Borisov had velocities of just twenty
six and thirty two kilometers per second, respectively, resulting from
their differently shaped orbits.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
With such a rapid approach.

Speaker 6 (31:36):
Astronomers were keen to work out exactly where three Eye
Atlas was headed. The current orbit is heliocentric, or centered
around the Sun, meaning it is possible for astronomers to
infer its incoming trajectory before it reaches us. On its
closest approach to the Sun on the thirtieth of October,
the comet will be at a distance of one point

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four astronomical units, placing it just inside the orbit of Mars.
In this graph of the comet's orbit, you can see
the asymptotic shape of his approach as it veers past
Mars and shoots back out into space. As the graph shows,
three I Atlas will not pass as close to the

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Sun as the famous Amuamora did in twenty seventeen, and
will follow a trajectory more similar to borisovs. Once the
interstellar nature of this comet was clear, astronomers employed the
use of other globally distributed telescopes to.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
Better understand it.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
In particular, the telescopes from Las Combre's observatory are purpose
built to observe transient astronomical events, which can include events
like comet outbursts and other changes in brightness. Using two
zero point three six meter LCO telescopes based in Hawaii,
astronomers scheduled a one hour observation sequence for three II Atlas.

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Their goal was to identify a light curve for the
comet and to see whether it exhibited any rotational variability.
Rotational variability means any kind of variation in brightness caused
by the comet spinning on its rotational axis. Maybe it
has an irregular shape and reflects light differently across its surface,

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or it has active regions that appear brighter to us
when they face towards Earth. But by monitoring the changes
in brightness over time, astronomers can identify repeating patterns which
show that the comet has completed one cycle of rotation.
Using the LCO telescopes, astronomers identify that the comet has

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a rotation period of around twenty nine hours, though like
much of the information about three Eye Atlas, further observations
are needed to constrain this. In a surprise to astronomers,
three Eye Atlas had a much flatter light curve than
a more or more and exhibited only zero point two
magnitude of brightness variation throughout the twenty nine hour period.

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But despite this minimal variation in brightness, three I Atlas
is bright. In fact, it's the brightest interstellar object we've
seen yet. This comet was pretty faint right up until
the end of May this year, when it reached a
magnitude of around twenty but between then and the comet's

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discovery by Atlas, it has promptly increased to between seventeen
point seven and seventeen point eight magnitude in the Atlas
old band, which records light wavelengths between five hundred and
sixty and eight hundred and twenty nanometers. Not only is
the comet bright, but it is large. From assumed albedo values,

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the diameter of its nucleus is estimated at ten kilometers.
This makes it an order of magnitude larger than Amoor
and Moore, an even larger than Borisov, which measured between
one d two klometers in diameter. The observations have also
revealed that three I Atmas shows faint levels of activity.

(35:09):
As I mentioned, the comet has a marginal coma, which
constitutes the fuzzy, glowing halo of dust and gas that
is produced when a cometary eye sublimates upon exposure to
the sun. You can make it out in the center
of this image, shown here as a diffuse circle around
the nucleus. The image is tracking the moving comet, which

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is why the surrounding stars appear blurred. But as well
as a coma, three eye Atlas has a tail. The
NBC reported a tail spanning three arcseconds across the sky
at an angle of around two hundred and eighty degrees.
This is pretty short, so the tail is often lost
amongst the coma in images of the comet, as with men.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
And I want to stop for a second, because what
he's talking about the coma, which is the front facing
you know, halo.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I guess you can say of.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
This thing, this common or craft, it not only has
the halo up front that is kind of pushing it
forward or whatever, this brightness up on the front of
it has a shorter tail. Usually comments are reverse of that.
You have a long tail and very little to the front,
if anything at all. I mean, most scientists and astronomers

(36:21):
typically don't even see any type of ford facing halo
or coma as they call it, on a front facing asteroid,
especially at one hundred and thirty thousand miles per hour.
So there's something very very different about this, very very different.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
All right.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
I want to get to this podcast.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Clip, and this is from Amazing Academics on YouTube, and
this is where AVI Lobe says there's a forty percent
chance it's alien.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
So let's listen to.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
You pretty high forty percent chance. Usually it's like point
zero zero, two, three, five, eight percent chance.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, and when we say alien, he's talking about actually intelligence.
So let's listen to what Avilobe says here and listen,
go give amazing academics to follow because we're using his
little clip here. We're talking to a Vilobe, and so
let's see what Avi says.

Speaker 8 (37:10):
About the object, about intelligent life beyond the earth. So
thank you for joining me.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
Professor Lobe, my pleasure, thanks for hosting me.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Tell me.

Speaker 8 (37:23):
In two thousand and seventeen, oh Muorma, which is the
first known interstellar visitor visited us, and now some were
five seven years later on, we now have another one.
This is the third one that we're aware of, and
it's called three I Atlas. I understand, and it's due

(37:48):
here in October December, kind of time. Can you tell
us something about it?

Speaker 9 (37:52):
Yeah, Well, as soon as that one was discovered, I
estimated the size of this object based on its brightness
and turned out to be twenty kilometers in diameter if
it's a solid object, and that's huge. That's twice as
large as the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs. And these

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are extremely rare rocks. In fact, even if you take
all the rocky material in interstellar space and package it
in rocks of twenty kilometers in size. You will be
able to provide the Inner Solar System with such a
rock once every ten thousand years.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (38:33):
So there is just not enough material to deliver us
a giant rock of this size over the period of
roughly a decade that was at the sky with the
Atlas telescope. And then moreover, there is no cometary tail
behind this object. In fact, the Huber space telescope imaged

(38:55):
it with the best angular resolution and we see some
blow in front of it, but nothing trailing it. And
then the light, the reflected sunlight is reddened. But if
it was reddened by dust particles, if this was a
much smaller object surrounded by a cloud of dust, then
these dust particles that redden it would also be pushed

(39:18):
by solar radiation pressure behind the object. We don't see that,
so it's possible the glow is a result of much
bigger dust particles that are not reddening it because they
are so big, much bigger, longer than the wavelength of
the light the sunlight.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
But in that case it.

Speaker 9 (39:36):
Means the object is too large, and there is no
evidence for gas of the type that you find around comets.
So the question of whether it's a comet or something
else is really intriguing, because one way to resolve the
mass budget discrepancy is to say this object was targeting

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the inner Solar System and as a resul it has
nothing to do with the reservoir of rocky material. It
was designed to visit us. And indeed, the trajectory of
this object is very fine tuned. It lies in the
plane of the planets around the Sun to within five
degrees and the chance of that happening is one in

(40:18):
five hundred or so. And then even along the same
path that it takes, the timing of its arrival is
fine tuned within one part in twenty thousand, such that
it will pass close to Mars, Venus and Jupiter as
they move around the Sun, and it comes on a
retrograde orbit, and it will be closest to the Sun

(40:39):
when we can't observe it. The Earth would be on
the opposite side, So that is the point in time
when it can do a maneuver or release mini probes
that will visit the planet. And so it just looks unusual.
It also came from a direction where it's hard to
find it this region of the center of the Milky
Way galax see that it's crowded with stars. And my

(41:03):
point is we should monitor it because as of now,
you know, I define the new scale in honor of
this object, that is called the low scale after my
last name, with zero meaning it's a natural object like
a comet for sure, and ten meaning it's definitely a
technological object because we in case we for example, see

(41:25):
a maneuver, or we see some artificial lights emitted by it,
or some get we get some message from it. As
of now, I would rank it as four given all
the anomalies that I mentioned. And of course, you know,
the fun thing of doing science is that it's working progress.
It's a learning experience. The more data we get, the

(41:47):
better assessment we will have as to the nature of
this object. The rank will either sink to zero, where
we will figure out it must be a comet, or
will rise all the way to ten, in which case
the stock market may crash in that. And my point is,
you know, the best way to distinguish between a dogmatist

(42:09):
and a scientist, a genuine scientist is to give them
a lot of data. The dogmatist will worry that the
data may falsify the dogma. A real scientist would always
be happy because even if it changes our views, we
learn something new.

Speaker 8 (42:24):
Yeah, tell me about this lobe scale when you say
you rated a four, because I was going to ask
you what you think the probability of it being an
artificial object is? When you rated a four, are you
saying that it's a forty percent chance of it being artificial?

Speaker 9 (42:44):
Yeah, roughly speaking, that's pretty high. I actually defined the
different numbers between zero and ten in a paper that
I co authored, and I explain what each number and
afore means that it's on the threshold of that, you know,
being considered seriously as a technological but it's not yet there.

(43:08):
We haven't seen the generic signature of technological object, and
if we do, then it will be a matter of
policy makers in consultation with side is how to respond,
because that's very different than getting a radio signal from
start these thousands of light years away, in which I.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Want to stop for a second, because yes, we have
had actually radio signals or some type of signals from
other planetary places or I guess what you could call
solar systems in our milky way galaxy. We have had
radio signals from deep space, I guess you can call it.
We've never really known whether those signals were of natural origin,

(43:50):
but there's a lot of scientists that believe they were
not of natural origin. Maybe there were signals that were
sent out intentionally that wanted to communicate with anything out
there that possibly could have signaled back. And we've actually
had movies about stuff like that. But we have actually
sent out signals in the past back to some of
these signals before. And if you actually look into like

(44:11):
how long it would take some of these signals to
reach wherever this direction of signal was coming to us.
In some cases it could take like ten to fifteen
to twenty thousand years to reach them, So it's crazy.
The question is like how long would it take for
us to receive the signal depending on you know, kind
of the powerfulness of the signal or the trajectory so on.

(44:33):
The question that obvious talking about here, which I want
to talk about for a moment, is if, for example,
that this scale goes up, so it goes from a
forty percent possibility that it is intelligently controlled and it
is intelligent life, and it goes from forty percent to
eighty percent or ninety percent. We see some massive switch

(44:55):
in trajectory. Maybe is coming straight towards Earth.

Speaker 4 (44:58):
And I think we'll know and we'll learn more the
more it gets closer to Earth or into our interstillar areas.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yeah, well for sure, unless it makes some type of
path or it takes a different trajectory when it gets
behind the Sun to where we're not able to actually
see it.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
And that's what's freaky about what he's saying is because
most comments, from what I understand he says, does not
do that. Does it go on the other side of
the Sun where we cannot see what's going on. But
it's almost like it's doing it intentionally in a planned way. Yeah,
in a planned way, so we don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Yeah, especially it's happening well, I mean, and the thing
is the path it's on right from where it's entering
our solar system into where it should be versus where
it's actually going. This is where a lot of scientists
are starting to say, Okay, this is weird and it
just so happens. I don't know if it's necessarily behind
the sun, that is, to where that we are, We're
not going to be able to witness whatever it's doing.

Speaker 4 (45:53):
And when it's going on in our retrograde.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Yeah, and this is supposed to all be happening, I
believe in two twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
The very interesting thing about this as well is that
we've been hearing a lot of talk from people like
Jeremy Corbel and George Knapp and Colethart and a lot
of these what some people call grifters that keep talking
about this twenty twenty seven date. We have intel from
inside that something big is going to happen on twenty
twenty seven. We've heard this, I don't I can't even

(46:22):
tell you how many times in my lifetime about something
huge that is going to happen. I remember, I think
it was twenty twelve. Originally there was a movie even
about it. There have been other stuff like the Mayan
calendar predictions, the end of the world predictions, and a
lot of the I guess what you could call researchers. So,
whether it is the Jeremy Corbel's, the Ross Coletharts, the

(46:43):
kind of the news and media personalities that's all over
mainstream media talking about the UFO phenomenon, they've been hinting
towards this twenty twenty seven big reveal, this big thing
that's coming. But it's also interesting this thing is going
to be closest to us around that time. But the
question I have is that if this thing goes to
eighty percent possibility that it is intelligently controlled, what does

(47:07):
the government do?

Speaker 1 (47:08):
What does Earth do?

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Yeah? What does Earth do? Not just our government do?
What do we do as a whole?

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Do we reach out?

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Because you know, it's one of those things it might
just move on past if we know for sure that
we have some type of signal that this thing is
intelligently controlled, and maybe it doesn't even know about us, right,
Maybe if it is intelligent, intelligently controlled and it's moving
through our solar system, it may just be out there.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
It may be a huge probe.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
There might be little guys on it or big guys
or whoever, but they still may not for sure know
that we here on Earth actually exist. Maybe this is
just some type of exploratory mission. But if that was
the case, and this was another faction of life, an
intelligent civilization, would Earth reach out to this thing even

(47:54):
if maybe it didn't know about us at all? Like
would we risk that happening. Would we actually try to
figure out some way to signal to this craft that hey,
we're here, right.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
And then what happens after that?

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Because that's crazy because you think about in the retrograde,
are they reverse? If we were out exploring other planetary
systems and we came to a system where there was
intelligent life, what would they do to us?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Would they reach out to us? Would they shoot us down?

Speaker 6 (48:26):
Like?

Speaker 4 (48:27):
How would they respond?

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Well, it's so interesome because I mean, you never know.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
I mean there are other planets, likely in other solar
systems that if they do have life on those planets,
they may operate one hundred percent completely different than we
can even imagine, Like they may not even have weapons
on these planets. They may not be violent or hostile
at all, because maybe they're just some peaceful planet. They

(48:52):
love everybody, everything's perfect there, you know whatever, And then
of course humans come and we f everything up, because
you know, we would do if we figured out that
they weren't able to defend themselves, we would take over
their price.

Speaker 4 (49:05):
We would try to take him over here.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah, we would absolutely, and we would put them in prisons, camps,
We would do all this crazy shit. We would be
the stereotypical asshole that you kind of see depicted sometimes
in movies, and actually, like for example, Avatar was a
good example of that. You know Avatar, where the humans
and then the avatars they kind of fault and they
wanted to destroy all their land and do all this

(49:28):
crazy shit. That would be us. I just believe. I mean,
we're like that with our own people. We're like that
were their own humans. If you are from another country
or you are whatever, we just act like you're not
a human being. And you know, I don't know if
we're going to have an episode on this in the future,
but we do. I did reach out to someone that

(49:48):
was on Bradley Martin's podcast recently. He's this guy in Gaza,
and he did an interview with Bradley and man a
lot of what he said is just kind of so
hard hitting about like his life and and what he's
going through in Gaza. He's been a Gaza citizen forever,
and not to bring this into that, but what I'm
saying is the one the one quote or the one

(50:08):
thing that he said in that interview that just kind
of hit home was like He's like, what I want
people to understand around the world is like, we are people.
We are humans, Like I do. I have dreams, and
I have goals, and I have visions and I want
to do these things I have. I have an Instagram,
you know, and he does. He's actually got a pretty
big Instagram channel, and he's like, and then at the

(50:29):
same time, the world is saying, there's no such thing
as Palestinius, There's no such thing as this, and you know,
it's just like they've been dehumanized in a lot of ways.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
And so when I say that, like, what would we
do to a to.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
A planet that we come across and maybe they don't
have ways to defend themselves, would we take advantage of
that as Earth?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yes, we would absolutely.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
And really what it would be if anything caused a
war between countries on Earth, it would be who's going
to take over this freaking world? First?

Speaker 4 (51:01):
Yeah, because who is going to figure out who they
are and what they have to offer us to make
us better and more control.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Yeah, and richer and all the things our Yeah, because
all the elites would be like, how is this going
to make us billions and trillions and gazillions.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Of dollars on Earth.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
You know, that's that's the number one thing that comes
to everyone's mind on Earth is like, how am I
going to get richer with this paper money? That really
doesn't mean shit, right, but how am I going to
get richer? Because the way the world that we live
in today is set up is that the amount of
money you have classifies who you.

Speaker 4 (51:32):
Are, how much notoriety you have against other people.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
And your power. Absolutely, and that is the way our
Earth was set up. And you know, listen, other planets
out there may not have any of that shit. It
may absolutely not have anything like that. You know, it
could be like a homesteadying type place to where you
live off the land.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
You love and care for everybody.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Blah blah. Is it possible that you would have some
type of planet where there's no crime, no people that
or no life that does bad things? I don't know,
I mean doubtful. You know, if you think about the Bible,
that kind of sounds like heaven to where it's like
you can't send you're happy, there's nothing that can go wrong.
But what I'm saying is, do we reached out to

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this thing?

Speaker 4 (52:14):
If we figure out that how to you that and
are we going to be aggressive towards them, are welcoming
And that's a big question. But when he was talking,
he was saying between October thirtieth and December. That is
was he talking about that we'll know more details or what?
Because if this is not coming until twenty twenty seven

(52:34):
and we're talking about October thirtieth to December, is that
meaning that we're going to have moreation.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Well, I think that's when it's going to get the
closest to us, to where maybe we can see the
most information. No, No, of twenty twenty seven. Yes, twenty
twenty seven is when we will know. You know, I
guess that that'll be the most visible that we'll be
able to see it from our satellites and our and
our whatever. But also, there's a lot of things that
can have between now and twenty twenty seven. If this thing,

(53:02):
you know, changes trajectory, if it if it starts doing
certain things that are not you know, I guess a
parent with most commets or asteroids, there's a lot of
things that can happen between now and then. So I
just wanted to kind of pose that question. What would
you guys do if you were the leader of the world,
and you see this interstellar object that you then find

(53:23):
out is a intelligently controlled craft from who knows where.
This thing might have the most crazy guns and lasers
on this that can destroy your planet or just take
you all over.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
And we and you think about Independence Day for example,
you know where the aliens were coming to attack us
and get.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Rid of us.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, yeah, Independence Day was a great movie. Yeah they
we were fighting them, you know. And that's kind of
the thing. But there's a lot of people to always
also say, like, is this some big lead up to
Project Bluebeam or this fake alien invasion to where we
can then control space, where we can militarize space. You
already have Space Force that Trump set up. But you
also know that like for example, China, I believe they

(54:05):
have craft on the Moon. Supposedly they want to build
stuff on the Moon. I know the United States is
talking about building nuclear facilities or some type of shit
like that on the Moon. We're all kind of moving
towards this space age. And you know, for example, Elon
Musk and say, how are we going to.

Speaker 4 (54:21):
Build shit on the Moon if we can't even get there?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Yeah, exactly, I mean that's the question.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Well, I mean, we could probably send things to the Moon.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
I know that we're going to use AI robots and
things to make things.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, but like for example, China, you know, they have
craft on the Moon right now, so they are there allegedly.
And I've never technically said that we can't get to
the Moon.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
Right I'm just saying humans, I know, but.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
It's very hard for humans to get to the Moon
because of the Van Allen radiation belt. You're talking about
like one hundred and fifty to two hundred X rays.
If you even try to go through that, I mean
you would you would be almost guaranteeing astronauts cancer in
that case, or maybe even a rapid deterioration of cells,
which is also deadly a lot faster and cancer is.

(55:10):
But there are different areas of the Van Allen radiation belts,
like at the polls for example, in the North and
South Poles, that you could potentially slip through without the radiation.
And that's what you know, the Apollo mission, that's what
supposedly what they did, although we lost the technology.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I just don't know. But let's listen to some more
of abby.

Speaker 9 (55:30):
In case there is no rush in responding to it.
But when you have a visitor to your backyard, you
know there is urgency in responding appropriately. And you know,
we discussed in the past the existential threat from artificial intelligence,
from a climate change from an asteroid impact, but there

(55:51):
was no discussion about alien technology, and I think we
should keep that in mind now that we are entering
a new era where Rubin telescope in Chile will find
a new interstellar object every few months.

Speaker 8 (56:06):
Okay, your suggestion that this has the potential forty potential
of being some alien artifact doesn't much pushback from your
fellow academics. What kind of response have you had from that?

Speaker 9 (56:25):
Oh, definitely a lot of pushback, and some of it
is personal, which I find the puzzling because you know,
when I signed up to become a scientist, I assume
that you know it should be driven by curiosity. All
questions should be on the table. Science does not is
not supposed to sensor questions. The scientific method is not

(56:46):
about censoring questions. It's about using data and evidence to
answer them. That's the scientific method. And instead what you
see is people guessing the answer or assuming that it
represents past No traditional thinking, and they're hostile to any
possibility that it might deviate from the Bitaten path, that

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this is a new type of object. And I find
that counterproductive because if we assume we know the answer
in advance, then we will bend any any evidence that
we get in that direction. Just to give an example,
people see this image from the Habit space telescope and
they say, obviously there is some glow around the object.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
It looks as if it's a comet.

Speaker 9 (57:29):
But they're assuming that it's moving away from the glow,
and in fact it's moving into the glow, which is
very different than most comets. Usually you see a commentary
tale behind them. Also, the scale of this glow is
to orders of magnitudes smaller. It's very compact, barely barely
visible with the resolution of the Habit Space tlescope to

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orders of magnludes smaller than that around the interstellar comet
two Eyeboriso that we discovered in twenty nineteen. There is
no evidence for any molecules that were seen in the
case of Borisov. And yet people say, oh, yeah, it's
a comet, forget about it, let's move on. And I
find this dismissive attitude, you know, counterproductive because obviously if

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we don't you know, agnostically examine the data, we will
never find anything new. And there are several examples of that.
For example, in Generate Second this year, the Minor Planet
Center catalog the near Earth object as an asteroid, and

(58:38):
then a day later they realized, oh, that one actually
moves along the trajectory of the Tesla roads the car
that was launched by SpaceX.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
So it's not a rock, it's a car.

Speaker 9 (58:49):
And it just shows you that very naturally astormers can
catalog technological debris or objects as rocks of a type
that was never seen before.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Yeah, and that's a great point. I mean they literally like, hey,
this is a comment, you know, this is something that's
kind of around our orbit. Come to find out it's
literally Elon Musk Tesla that he launched into space on
a ship, and that thing's still in orbit. Yeah, out there,
just still hanging out with us, the fake guy. But
that tells you about science. Once someone's like, oh, this

(59:21):
is what it is, all right, classify it done into story.
And this is the exact same way they did with COVID.
And the one thing I will say is like there's
been a lot of people questioned Auviy Lobe as far
as you know, he is a part of the system.
You know, maybe that's because he is a Harvard professor.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
He is extremely smart.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Obviously, we've heard a lot about Harvard and kind of
how they've reacted to certain things and some of the
people that they have produced. Not saying anything bad about
that necessarily, but a lot of these academic universities, these
you know, especially the Ivy League schools, they go with
this you know, I guess specific political agenda or motive,

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and so that automatically supposedly dclassive or not not declassified.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
The credits right, the credits yeah, or.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Discredits Avy Lobe.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
And I don't think that's the case here, because one
thing he does make very clear, and it's true, is
that science is not about saying something and being done
with it. It's not about saying this is what I think,
and that's it. That's it's over, which is what science
and astrology and all of our history has been for
a very long time. It's like whatever is written is
exactly how it is, and that's that's the case, end

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of story. And if anybody questions it, or there are
outliers that say, look, I don't necessarily agree with that,
then you are, you know, you're condemned. You are in
some cases the licensed dethroned, you know, fired from your job.
We definitely saw that during COVID, but we've also saw
that with We've literally saw the same exact thing with archaeology,

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you know, with Graham Hancock and some of these others
that have talked about ancient civilizations and kind of how
it defies the new narrative of mainstream academia.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
What we're led to believe and what we're supposed to believe.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
For sure, Sorry, no, it's so for Auvi's credit here,
he makes a great point like science is about asking questions.
It's about presenting your best evidence and having people question it,
having people research it, having people either debunk it, refute it,
or or or maybe build on it.

Speaker 10 (01:01:28):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
And but the mainstream science academia is always about discrediting
anybody that says outside of the narrative, right, And so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
That's what Obvi's saying here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
And so you guys can decide is Auvi someone put
in position to be on mainstream media for some type
of sciop or some type of you know, big conspiracy theory.
Me personally, I don't think so, you know, I mean, yes,
if you want to go into like the whole Project
Bluebeam thing and all that, I think AVI it seems
like is at the very least one of those people

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that you know, he does question science. He's the one
that's kind of pushing back against a mainstream science, mainstream
academia is saying this is a comment, this is a comment.
And when I say mainstream academia, mainstream science, these are
the people that are getting paid by the system. These
are the people that are getting paid by the system
to say the things they're supposed to be saying. And
Obvious is one of the people that is kind of

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pushing back against the system. So if he was a
part of the system, like a controlled opposition, maybe you
could say that, but I just highly doubt that.

Speaker 9 (01:02:35):
And therefore we should be really careful because for the
objects that we launched, we can figure out it's a
Tesla car, it's not a rock, But what about those
launched by our neighbors, And why should we assume that
our neighbors are less less capable than we are. My
point is Elon Musk is not the most accomplished space
entrepreneur since the Big Bank thirteen point eight billion years ago.

(01:02:56):
Let's be open minded, let's look for unfamiliar objects, and
here we have one of them, three I Atlas. It's
a blind date, and in blind dates, especially those from
interstellar space, we should observe before expressing an opinion about
the nature of the other side. And so that that's

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my advice.

Speaker 8 (01:03:18):
What do you say to the people who propose that,
I mean the Fermi paradox? And Rico Fermi was well
known as suggesting that there were no real aliens out there,
because he said, we would have seen them by now,
what's your comment on the right?

Speaker 9 (01:03:35):
So one solution to that paradox is called the dark
forest hypothesis, where they exist out there, but those that
survive are careful and are silent to avoid predators. And they,
you know, they were bruised by encounters in the past,
and therefore they just observe rather than make a sound.

Speaker 5 (01:03:56):
We were careless.

Speaker 9 (01:03:56):
We were broadcasting radio signals for more than a century
and those signals must have reached them. So at some point,
if they see us as a threat, because we are
a young technological civilization, they might visit us. And for example,
three I Atlas took about eight thousand years to reach
us from the outskirts of the oor cloud of the

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Solar System at one hundred thousand times the Earth Sun separation,
and that was, you know, eight thousand years ago. That's
when humans started to document their history. That's not very
long ago. And if this is a spacecraft, if it
started its journey about one thousand times the Earth Sun separation,

(01:04:42):
then it would have taken it eighty years to reach us.
That's roughly the period of which modern science and technology
were developed. So we just don't know if it's technological,
where it came from, and what the objective is. But
the point is we made our existence known out to
one hundred light years from Earth, and so we shouldn't

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be surprised that if someone is out there, they might
visit us without making a signal. By the way, even
a craft that is tens of kilometers in size cannot
be observed with our best telescopes beyond the distance of
ten times the Earth Sun separation because it doesn't reflect
much sunlight.

Speaker 5 (01:05:24):
So we just don't know what.

Speaker 9 (01:05:27):
Is out there. We assume that it's empty space. And
some people argue very vigorously that we are the smartest
in the universe. You know, this.

Speaker 5 (01:05:39):
Pride that is not justified.

Speaker 9 (01:05:42):
And then I can sort of understand it because my daughters,
when they were young, they thought that they are the
smartest and the center of the universe. Because their training
data set was limited to home. They didn't not much beyond,
and they had a shock when they went on the
first day to the kindergarten seeing other kids just like them.
My point is that it's a sign of immaturity that

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humanity did not mature, and my colleagues in academia did
not mature. They still believe that it's an extra ordinary
claim to imagine something like us elsewhere, and I say, no,
it's an ordinary claim because there are lots of Earth's
sun analogs that billions of them in the Milky Way alone,
and therefore, you know, we shouldn't be surprised if someone

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comes to visit.

Speaker 8 (01:06:24):
Us the nearest The nearest one is what Alpha Centauri.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
That's the nearest star.

Speaker 9 (01:06:29):
But the question is, you know you could have a
visit from the other end of the Milky Way galaxy.
The Voyager spacecraft that we launched within one billion years
would be on the opposite side of the Milky Way disk.

Speaker 8 (01:06:41):
Okay, one billion years, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:06:43):
No, it's not because most of the stars from billions
of years before the sun.

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
The Sun is a late comer. We are late to
the party.

Speaker 9 (01:06:51):
The Sun formed in the last one third of cosmic history,
and most stars from billions of years before the Sun.
So if you start the technological clock, exactly it's happened
on Earth, but a few billionaires earlier. They had plenty
of time to reach us from all across the Milky
Way disc of stars. And therefore the question is when

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did they start the journey.

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
They could be very nearby.

Speaker 9 (01:07:16):
If they reached the you know, they started the journey
billions of years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Yeah, and he makes great points there. I mean, you know,
who are we to think. I mean, besides, if you
are a Christian or believe in the Bible.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Or whatever, but we are the only ones?

Speaker 2 (01:07:30):
Yeah. The Bible doesn't specifically say that we're the only
people in this entire universe.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
It doesn't say.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
That, I mean you people out there, that you people,
you people out there, people that really study extensively the Bible.
If you can tell me where it says in the
Bible that we are the only ones out there period
in the story, then show me. I don't necessarily think
that's the case. But either way, you know, think about
just our little solar system in our huge galaxy. Our

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galaxy is the Milky Way, and our Milky Way galaxy
is massive. I mean it is huge. You're talking about
light years in diameter.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
But it's just a piece of sand in the whole
universe exactly. It means nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Yeah, and so if you have multiple galaxies, which you do,
you have billions, if not trillions, of not quadrillions. We
don't even know the extent of what is passed really
in a large part our own solar system. As he
just said, the only things we can really see on
satellite is ten times the Sun's distinct mean anything that
reflects off the Sun or obviously things like stars and

(01:08:34):
different places, but we can't see past that. We're guessing
on everything beyond that, like what if beyond that is
just things that we cannot even imagine.

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Yeah, and it goes into infinity. And we watched a
program about infinity one night and it just like was
mind blow It kind of it was like, I can't
even understand this because this is like so out there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Yeah, no, it was pretty nuts to kind of think
about that stuff, for sure. But I want to also
get to this quick point, and this is three Eye
at Lists.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
This could be the truth.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
It starts with Joe Rogan, but I want to play
these points because it also has Jeremy Corbel, it has
some of these other ones in there talking about three
Eye at Lists.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
Listen, and then we're going to get into a little.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Bit of the conspiracy stuff about whistleblowers that may have
talked or spoken about this already.

Speaker 11 (01:09:25):
About that an object that's hurtling towards Earth at like
one hundred and thirty thousand miles an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Now, that might solve all our problems.

Speaker 11 (01:09:31):
Some intergalactic object that's hurt This is this guy, Avi Lobe.
He's a professor at Harvard that believes it might be
an alien probe.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
And he was talking about.

Speaker 11 (01:09:41):
The odds of this thing being in the trajectory that
it is entering into our source system and a direct
path with Earth. The odds are extremely low, and at
the place where it's doing it, it's when the Earth
is the opposite side of the Sun, so it's coming
from behind the Sun, so it makes it difficult to detect,
and that this object is in a direct line and
to come to Earth in twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 9 (01:10:02):
Three i Atlas was strange in my mind the minute
I heard about it, because it was discovered at a
distance of four point five times the Earth Sun separation,
and yet it was discovered with a telescope that is
only half a meter in diameter. You know, that's the
kind of telescope that some amateur astronomers use. And the
reason is is because it was relatively bright. If it

(01:10:24):
was a solid object, then it should have been twenty
kilometers in diameter, you know, bigger than Manhattan Island, twice
as large as the rock that the dinosaurs right sixty
six millionaires ago.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
So it's a giant object. There is a problem with
a giant object. There is just not enough.

Speaker 9 (01:10:42):
Material in interstellar space to make such a giant rock
and send it our way every few years. I mean,
this one was discovered after a few years of serving
the sky. But then I also noticed with two colleagues,
we wrote a paper saying that its trajectory is very
unusual because the trajectory is in the plane of the
orbit of the Earth around the Sun and within five degrees,

(01:11:05):
and the chance of that happening at random is zero.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Point two percent.

Speaker 9 (01:11:10):
So it's aligned with the orbital plane of the inner planets.
It will come very close to Jupiter, Mars, and Venus.
The chance of that happening, even taking the orbit and
just changing the rival time, the chance of it being
so close to these planets is one in twenty thousand.

Speaker 5 (01:11:27):
You know, it's really small.

Speaker 9 (01:11:28):
And also when it arrives closest to the Sun, and
by the way, mark your calendar, that would be October.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
Twenty nine, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 9 (01:11:36):
When it gets closest to the Sun, the Earth would
be on the opposite side of the Sun.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
We won't be able to observe it. We won't see it.

Speaker 9 (01:11:43):
So the question is was not by design, because that
is the point in the trajectory when it can actually
break thanks to the gravity of the Sun and you know,
come at us, so to speak. Also came from the
direction of the center of the milkyay galaxy that is
very with stars and that makes it difficult to detect

(01:12:03):
and if you wanted to hide yourself, that would be
the direction you come from. So I said, then you know,
let's say monitor head. You know, if it doesn't come
out from the other side of the Sun on October
twenty ninth. After ninth, perhaps the stock market we're round.

Speaker 12 (01:12:18):
There's certainly something going to happen in twenty twenty seven.
Then I don't know what it is. Some people say
it's a pole reversal. Some people say it's an asteroid
hitting the planet. Some people say it's AI reaching quantum
and then all of a sudden we lose the capacity
to have control of our own computer systems. What I
am aware of is that everybody's telling me we're on
borrow time. I cannot begin to emphasize how serious a

(01:12:43):
look I get when I say to people who are
confiding in me, what's the times going on this? And
they're urging me to be urgent. They're saying to me,
people need the right to know this, they have a
right to know this, And I'm going, what are we
talking about? And I feel like shaking these people and say,
for God's say, just tell me.

Speaker 5 (01:13:01):
And they are all constrained.

Speaker 12 (01:13:02):
By their national security OS they want the public to
know this.

Speaker 13 (01:13:08):
Sometimes when you want somebody to know a truth, and
so you can set them up to believe a lie
that's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
I have zero dealt that lie is coming.

Speaker 13 (01:13:18):
Specifically, you want me to say it right now, for real,
real on camera, to be put in the show.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
So UFOs are real with here a long time. That's
the truth. But the lie is coming.

Speaker 13 (01:13:28):
All indications is that that lie is going to be
that there is a craft slowly making its way to
us here on earth, and that is the lie they're
going to want you to believe. It's nuanced how they
explain that the nature of that threat, but that one
hundred fucking percent is the lie.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
You are going to be told. You even got a date.
People been whispering a date for a long time.

Speaker 13 (01:13:52):
I know specifically what document from the seventies initiated the
idea of that lie.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Classified document that is the you will be told.

Speaker 13 (01:14:00):
You're going to be told that there's a craft on
its way to earth. That's the lie sent you to
texts today with the year. Nope, I'm not going to
propagate that lie, not going to be part of it,
not going to say it to the camera. Everybody knows.
Just start paying attention. You've been told the truth about.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
UFOs for a long time now.

Speaker 13 (01:14:21):
It's been pretty orchestrated, it's been pretty clear, and it's
using people that are telling the truth and want to
tell the truth. Ultimately, they want you to know something.
They want you to know UFO is real. Thank god,
we're finally there. We're all there now. They want you
to know the truth. Why they want you to know
that truth?

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
Hope I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
It is terrified. Maybe it's good to get ahead of it,
call it out now before they do it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
So there you go. So the last person talking there
with Jeremy Corbel right, so he's saying UFOs are real
for sure. It's just there's going to be a big
lie coming about twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
The confusing thing about this a three I atlas, as
Abby Loeb says, behind the sun and near that time
is going to be maybe twenty twenty five. But then
a lot of people are also connecting three I out
lists to twenty twenty seven. And if it isn't three
I out lists to twenty twenty seven, what is it?
Because there has been all this speculation from Ross Colthar
and all these people kind of the speakings behind.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
The government twenty twenty seven, this mysterious thing happening in
twenty twenty seven. But Ivy said it himself between August,
I mean sorry, October twenty ninth and thirtieth, it'll be
closest to us, but on the further side of the sun.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Yeah, so we're not going to be able to see it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
But what happens after it is on the other side
of the sun, is this win Is this all being
set up either as a lie, which is what Jeremy
Corbel is saying here, as almost like a Project Bluebeam thing,
to where once it gets beyond and past the Sun,
then they utilize that to say, hey, it's coming towards
us now. So also to talk about this Project Blue

(01:15:52):
Beam before we get into another conspiracy, although this is
part of the conspiracy, Project Blue Beam, part of this
whole thing. Carol, which was a close associate with the
Warner Vron Braun, claimed before his death that an extraterrestrial
threat would be the ultimate justification for action. And recently
there has been significant discussion, obviously as we're talking about,

(01:16:13):
from the government and media outlets suggesting that three I
at lists might be an aggressive alien spacecraft and so
is this a genuine possibility or could it be a
fabricated scenario to secure funds for either militarizing space or
something else. But listen to this clip.

Speaker 14 (01:16:30):
One of the biggest bombshells at that two thousand and
one press conference was the testimony of Carol Rosen, an
aerospace executive who worked beside Werner von Brown, the Nazi
rocket scientist who came to America after World War Two
to work for NASA. Carol received his deathbed confession, a

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testimony so terrifying that we spent the last twenty years
trying to warn about it.

Speaker 15 (01:16:57):
Now Here was Von Brown sitting at a desk when
I first met him, explaining to me that he was
told he only had three to six weeks to live,
but that he was going to stay alive long enough
to teach me what the real game is that's going on.
And it started out when I was in the industry.
The Russians were the threat. We had to build space
based weapons against the Russians, and then Third world countries

(01:17:18):
called Nations of concern at that time, and then the
asteroid threat, which I thought was kind of comical that
we could just put weapons up there to shoot down
or steer an asteroid, and then it leads to the
last card. And then he would repeat to me over
and over and the last card, the last card. The

(01:17:39):
last card would be the extraterrestrial threat. He explained to
me that there was a moment when we were going
to be told that the extraterrestrial beings that their craft
were a threat, and they were not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
These craft that have come here are now not UoS.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
They're identified flying off to.

Speaker 15 (01:18:00):
And we know that they have beings in them. And
we have witnesses here who have told you that they
can shut down our missile silos, they can stop a
rocket going into space.

Speaker 3 (01:18:10):
That's a test.

Speaker 15 (01:18:10):
We have witnesses here who have worked in the classified
departments who have the courage to come forward here to
support what Bernard Van Brown told me back in nineteen
seventy four to seventy seven. At the end, I said,
and it's all alive.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
Well, it's still all a lie.

Speaker 7 (01:18:29):
The ultimate dream of the dialectical war machine, the military
industrial complex, is to have this war with a potential
extraterscial civilization. It's their dream of all time. You know,
you can roll into place all the kind of stretchers
of a national security state. You can spend literally trillions
of dollars a year on massive military equipment, super high

(01:18:52):
tech equipment, etc. And so that it's logical that they
would use that as an excuse.

Speaker 14 (01:18:58):
Flashbacktember eleventh, two thousand and one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
The world is in shock.

Speaker 14 (01:19:04):
The American people are paralyzed with fear and grief. Over
the next few days, an unprecedented show of solidarity and patriotism,
Americans fly their flag from every car and hang them
outside their homes. They unify around an overwhelmed president, brought
together as one by terror and loss.

Speaker 5 (01:19:27):
If you raised an.

Speaker 14 (01:19:28):
Eyebrow, as constitutionally protected freedoms disappeared and the wardrome beat
loud and unopposed. The nine to eleven attack set the
stage for an invasion agenda that had been pre planned
for years. As General Wesley Clark revealed in a two
thousand and seven interview, he.

Speaker 16 (01:19:49):
Said, I just got this down from upstairs to meeting
the Secretary Events of Office today and he said, it's
a memo that describes how we're going to take out
seven countries in five years, with Iraq and the Shuria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia,
Sudan and finishing off Iran. I said, is it classified?
He said yes, Sir, I said, I said, well, don't

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show it to me.

Speaker 15 (01:20:15):
When Van Brown talked to me about this fake extraterrestrial
he called it a faked alien invasion that was being planned.
I saw on a board a list of countries against
whom we were going to build space based weapons. I
called Wesley Clark and he answered the phone, and I said, well,
you know what is it about? And he said, well,

(01:20:37):
I asked that question, what is it about? And the
guy at the desk said, I don't know.

Speaker 16 (01:20:42):
I said, we're going to war with Iraq? Why, he said,
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:20:50):
In his paper published in two thousand, Rebuilding America's Defenses,
the neo conservative think tank Project for the New American
Century asserted that only a quote New Pearl Harbor would
generate the political will for the military and defense policy
transformations the group desired. Indeed, these traumatizing events are always

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planned or hijacked in order to manipulate perception and manufacture
consent for military action and the theft of our wealth
and liberty.

Speaker 5 (01:21:24):
When George W.

Speaker 17 (01:21:24):
Bush, Dick Cheney, and others had decided to go to
war with Iraq long before Colin val gave that presentation.
I feel like it was the lowest point in my
professional and personal life that I had a hand in
managing it.

Speaker 14 (01:21:40):
We've come a long way since the nine to eleven attacks.
That same document that called for a new Pearl Harbor
goes on to describe how we need to put weapons
in space and even predicts the creation of the space
force for a complete fascist takeover. The men behind the
curtain will have to play their final card, a cosmic

(01:22:02):
nine to eleven.

Speaker 7 (01:22:05):
This temptation to generate a false flag attack on the
part of some after treastial civilization, you even hear people
like Ronald reag you make reference to it. Perhaps we
need some outside universal threat to make us recognize this
common bound. I occasionally think how quickly our difference is

(01:22:28):
worldwide would vanish if we were facing an aai in
threat from outside this world.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
There you go, and so three I Atlas.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Is it some hype to get us into some interstellar
false flag war to where we have another nine to eleven,
but on a far greater scale we're talking about I
don't I don't think it's going to be enough for
the military industrial complex for the people that want to
make trillions and trillions of dollars to just say that
three eye outlasts is coming through our solar system and

(01:23:02):
it is going to be a threat. Would it be
enough though, if we use some type of already space
space laser to destroy certain parts of the world in
a massive false flag that they then blame on extraterrestrials.
And we've been hearing this for years. And it's funny
because doctor Stephen Greer is the main guy that has
been talking through this video, but he talked about this

(01:23:24):
video before Space Force was even created, where he talked
about we would maybe need some type of space force,
which in twenty and seventeen I believe it was Donald
Trump created Space Force. So it's almost like this whole
thing is leading into this. And you also have to
think about this as well. You know, over the past

(01:23:44):
like eight years, we've had and heard more talk about
UFOs and UAPs and the phenomenon than we've ever heard
in our entire life. I mean back in the day,
like during Roswell and even you know people like Bob
Bazaar where they would report that we were working on
reverse engineering technology.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
You know all of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
They were condemned, they were called they were psychos and crazy,
and even Roswell where they tried to pass it off.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
As a leather balloon.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Yeah, it's just nuts, right, So why and what was
the shift you know to where UFOs were so secretive
and if you believed in UFOs you were crazy and
you were a temple hat, whereas now like, if you
don't believe in UFOs, you're crazy. What are you not
believing about what we are? You know, presenting these whistleblowers,
David Grush and all these mainstream media people, Ross Coulthard,

(01:24:33):
Jeremy Corbel, George Knapp, I mean there's so many of them,
Like what are you not believing about this? Guys?

Speaker 1 (01:24:39):
Why do you not believe us?

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
And then you have people like Ashton Forbes' just like
these people are full of shit, And like, what we
have and what we're doing is our own technology. We
have technology that is going to change the world. We
have technology go could destroy the world.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
But we got that technology from somewhere. We didn't just
create it absolutely. But what I would do want to
say to kind of close this is start looking out
there into the interwebs, start seeing things, especially over the
next few years and even leading up to October December
US and then after this, start looking at things that

(01:25:15):
are pushed by social media, start seeing things that have
these two and three and four million views. Because what
we're going to play this episode out with is supposedly
a whistleblower, and this is a Pentagon worker, Supposedly that
is Heiden at an Airbnb which is nuts posting on
TikTok claiming contact has been made with sci sentient beings

(01:25:36):
aboard the spacecraft otherwise known as three I Atlas. Now,
this guy is claiming to be a federal agent, which
that alone, by the way, if you're not a federal agent,
if you don't work as a federal officer, is illegal
as a felony. Yeah, but there's a lot of whistleblowers
out there that will do that for their country, for
their humanity.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Yeah, I know, what are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:25:59):
For humanity?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Gonna lie and say they're an agent.

Speaker 4 (01:26:01):
No, I'm saying that he really could be an agent.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yeah, he absolutely could be, right, I mean, his face
is very visible obviously here. He says that he has
the document that is proof that what he's about to
say is true. We're going to close this episode with
this video. Now you can believe this video or this guy,
and I think there's gonna be many more to come.
I mean, you know you think about already. David Grush

(01:26:25):
it was in front of Congress and talking about we
have biologics, we have down spacecraft, we have recovered multiple
of them, we have them in various places. He has
worked on programs about those. Now I'm not saying that
aliens and UFOs and all this stuff is not real.
I believe they are. But or is our government going
to use this against us? Or are they going to

(01:26:45):
use this to either garner more power and control, which
they will, or and to just make the military industrial
complex trillions and trillions and trillions of more dollars. That's
what we don't know. But before I play this clip,
I do want to let you guys know, and many
of you keep asking, and I want to make it clear.
Our YouTube or my YouTube is C Free Live. If

(01:27:07):
you look up C and then free like fr ee
and then live, that is my YouTube channel. We have
been going through hell with our internet in the past
few days because once we finally figured out the streaming setup.
Then our internet was not streaming worth the hell, so
then we had to call the internet company, which they
ruined the motim even further, and then we had to
have someone come out and then they fixed it, I

(01:27:28):
think finally, So tomorrow night, which is going to be
August of fourteenth, we're going to have a stream.

Speaker 1 (01:27:34):
I don't know exactly one hundred percent what we're doing.
We're probably going to do some type of gaming.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
It might be likely flight simulator to where we fly
a H one forty five helicopter over Area fifty one
in that region, show you what the base looks like,
show you what some of the other military bases around
Area fifty one is, and then also just fly into
the test range so you can kind of see what
the test range looks like, what our pilots will see

(01:28:02):
some of these mounds we have talked about on this
podcast already. We'll probably do that, and then you know,
we'll stop at different places and talk back and forth,
and it'll be live, so you guys can comment. Make
sure you follow it on YouTube because that is where
we're gonna be streaming. We're gonna do a lot of
stuff like that on YouTube, and it's not just gonna
be game and we're gonna do commentary. We're gonna do
videos like what we did today instead that you guys

(01:28:24):
are gonna be able to see, you know, the trajectory
of three i AT lists and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
We're gonna do videos like that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
But I do want to make sure that you guys
know it is C free Live and we also have
a telegram. The telegram is Investigator Earth Conspiracy Podcast in
for the YouTube channel, we have a discord now officially,
so if you have discord that is C free Live.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
I think it's C free Live.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
I'm pretty sure is C free Live Discord, and we're
gonna that's for the YouTube channel, So just to let
everybody know. And obviously we have all the social media's
and as we've said before, we're not going to abandon
this podcast at all. This is their main thing. But
I'm very excited about streaming. We've been working very hard
to kind of get this set up and get it right.
Serry's going to have her her channel once we kind

(01:29:12):
of figure out all the kinks with all the bullshit
we've been going through.

Speaker 1 (01:29:14):
Over to Paths.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
A week has been nuts and we're very tired. Scherry
got two of her teeth pooled yesterday, which we're on
the back side. I think you said you cracked them
freaking eating crab legs or cracking crab legs back in
the day.

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
Yes, I did. I didn't use the crackers. I used
myneeth instead, and yeah, it cracked my teeth, so that's nice.
Thank god. They were their very back teeth so you
can't see it when I smile, but it did hurt, yeah,
to have my teeth bowed.

Speaker 10 (01:29:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
We've been working our butts off too for two days
since you've had your teeth pulled, so hopefully that doesn't
give you some kind of dry socket. But anyways, here
is the video of supposedly this Pentagon worker and guys.
Until next time, we're going to have a new episode
out probably Friday, but if you want to check out
our YouTube, come to the live stream. I think it's
probably going to be seven thirty year eight pm tomorrow night,

(01:30:02):
so check it out.

Speaker 18 (01:30:03):
We love you, guys out Hey, guys, I feel an
obligation to our country, to the world to share this
information with you. Right now, I'm in hiding at an airbnb,
so that I at least had enough time to get
this out to you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:30:22):
Last Friday.

Speaker 18 (01:30:24):
Let me back up. I have worked at the Pentagon
for the last seven years in data analysis, and last Friday,
as I was leaving work like I normally do, I
got an email that I wasn't supposed to get. There
is another senior officer here at the Pentagon with the
same first and last name, but with a different middle initial,

(01:30:47):
and it got sent to the DD email to me
instead of him, and according to policy, I wasn't even
supposed to open it, but I did, and I have
to share this information with everybody before it's too late.

(01:31:07):
I'll just put on the screen, all right, So I
will leave it up on the screen for a few
moments so you guys can read it. Obviously, the part
that stands out is indicating that some form of contact
with Sentience has been made, and that the estimated current
approach date but twenty nine October. Obviously, I will lose

(01:31:36):
my job once this gets out, and honestly, I will
remain in hiding for as long as possible, just for
my own safety. But I didn't feel right knowing this
information and knowing the implications for all of.

Speaker 10 (01:31:53):
Us lateral miss you say, say, we said.

Speaker 19 (01:32:41):
Getty if we could come with.

Speaker 10 (01:32:45):
This, so.

Speaker 3 (01:33:09):
Maybe we would.

Speaker 19 (01:33:15):
Solsa.

Speaker 5 (01:33:23):
He was okay, squeakly.

Speaker 19 (01:33:27):
Club waist fish, squeaky with so.

Speaker 5 (01:34:20):
Sweak, cut with souls, sweaty c.

Speaker 10 (01:34:26):
Soul, Thanks so.

Speaker 9 (01:34:42):
So so

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
We stop

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