Alex Jones vs Nick Fuentes Debate Breakdown | Trump & The Epstein Files - Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
I know they will get down. Hello and welcome to
Investigator Podcast. I'm your host, Chad, alongside my beautiful wife Sherry.
On tonight's episode, we're diving into a fiery and controversial
debate between two of the most polarizing voices in the
political world, Nick Fintes and Alex Jones, and the topic
is Donald Trump's response or lack thereof, to the long
awaited Epstein Files. Quintes and Jones go head to head

(00:53):
over whether Trump's silence is a calculated move or a
dangerous misstep, and what it means to the future of
the Republican Party headed into twenty twenty six and beyond.
We'll break down their key arguments to underlie in tensions
between populous and establishment conservatives and ask the uncomfortable question,
are the Epstein Files being suppressed to protect more than
just Democrats? Could this be the scandal that fractures the

(01:14):
Republican base or is it just all political theater designed
to keep the truth buried. Guys, welcome to the show.
It is July the thirty first, twenty twenty five, and
the name of that song is Underwater by Nick Caution.
We played him a couple of times on this show.
Actually kind of like him. He's kind of a chill vibe. Yeah,
I like him too, chill vibe rap for sure. Guys,

(01:34):
listen the reason why we're doing this episode and we're
headed into August. And some of you probably saw our
social media posts that I had put up probably a
week ago, where I said, in August, we are going
to be turning a new leaf. Now what does that mean? Well,
I don't know exactly. I was wondering the same question. No,
but here's the thing. Now, here's the thing. I do

(01:56):
know what it means. I'm just not one hundred percent
sure yet how I'm going to go about it. And
when I say I, I think that. You know, over
seven years or eight years or so of doing this podcast,
you know, Sharon and I used to have a lot
of fun on this podcast. We used to have a
ton of fun. We used to talk about all kinds
of topics. And yes, there was some political. Obviously, there

(02:18):
was paranormal, There was obviously aliens. There was all this
stuff Bigfoot, bigfoot, you name it stuff. But we also
had fun doing it, right, We We laughed, we told jokes.
I mean, there was literally an episode which you guys
should go back and find. Don't do it and I
don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
What w you're talking about the Mexican alien.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Well, yeah, well yeah, we were just kind of debating
on like, you know, if there were certain races of aliens,
for example, if there were like Spanish aliens, or if
there were black aliens or white aliens or Asian aliens,
like how would those spaceships look differently? And I mean
it was just hilarious. We actually had our friend Matt On,
you know, he was on that was probably five years ago.
But we laughed so hard during that episode and we

(03:00):
were just telling jokes. We were having fun. And then,
you know, somewhere along the road it started probably about
twenty twenty, especially when everything COVID happened, Everything started ramping up,
getting really crazy. I feel like we did have to
get more serious and especially with our coverage on COVID
nineteen everything to happen with the vaccines, we kind of
shifted just a little bit. And I'm not saying that

(03:21):
you can't be serious and also be funny, also be
kind of laid back. But also there have been I
guess me self censoring in some ways on certain topics.
And I know some of you are probably gonna be like, well,
I don't think that's the case. Yeah, Well, you guys
have not heard Chad and filtered. Well no, I mean no,
most people have not, you know, And I think.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
You're like, I am too, Like I do censor myself
as well, and I'm not myself because I'm worried that
I'm going to say the wrong thing sometimes because we're
so almost politically correct, and I think it's stupid to
be that way.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah. Yeah, And that's one of the things, like our
telegram people over on telegram, that they see the side
of us that is our normal selves. And you know,
I mean it's not like we're fake on here. It's
just that we don't necessarily always say certain things that
maybe we would, you know, off record or on telegram
or maybe in our bedroom or living room, you know,

(04:17):
where we're hanging out.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
They want to hear what we say in our bedroom.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well, but you know what I'm saying. So we're just trying.
We're going to do our very best to absolutely be
as one hundred percent raw, real and authentic is absolute possible.
And that's why I said in some of the posts
on social media, I said, you know, some of you
are going to like it and some of you are not.
But the reality is, and I think in life that
you have to always say what it is that you

(04:42):
truly feel on any in all subjects. And I also
think you've got to truly be yourself across the board,
because there's been something that like when we do the podcast,
we still like doing the podcast, but sometimes it feels
like more work than pleasure. Is started we started doing
this podcast for pleasure. We started doing it because we
like talking about the things we talk about. We started
doing it because we had a passion, and we still do.

(05:04):
But we just want to make sure that like going
into August, going into this kind of New Leaf era,
that we are going to do our very best to
be as authentic as possible with everybody. And like I said,
some of you are going to like and some of
you or not.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
And what happens if I don't like what you have to.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Say, Well, that's just going to be an all out
on here, So you guys will be just kidding. Now,
I'm just kidding. And but also tonight, what we're going
to do on tonight's show with Nick Fintz and Alex
Jones is break down the debate.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
The reason I decided to do this, well, there's two reasons.
Number One, we weren't going to do this. We were
actually going to have we were gonna have Jake Chansley
on the podcast tonight, and then we were not able
to get him on the show tonight. That may be
rescheduled for a later date. But we did watch parts
of this interview. Sherry did not really watch this interview
last night. But I do think that Alex Jones and

(05:56):
Nick Fuintes both have enough different in opinions that I
think it may represent a lot of you out there.
I think some of you out there are going to
see it from Nick's side, some of you are going
to see it from Alex's side, and then some of
you are going to be completely opposite of both of them.
Some of you are going to be, you know, completely
one hundred percent all on board with Trump and everything

(06:19):
Trump says or the media says or whatever. You're going
to be on board with that. And I say that
because we've got a lot of emails. We've got a
lot of messages from people, especially over the past month
when we started to criticize the Trump administration on their
handling of the Epstein files. We got a lot of
backlash for it. A lot of just Trump loyalists that
think that we're turning over on Trump or we're going

(06:40):
to be the new Democrat Party. Podcast. We've heard of
that as well, but it's.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Not necessarily a wee thing. That's more of a you thing.
And me, I am still more pro Trump than you
are at this time.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, look, I'm pro Trump for sure. I mean, we've
said it before a billion times. It's just that we
have to we still have to evaluate no matter who's
in office, like why are they holding this back? What
is the core reason in behind this? And that's why
I thought, hey, it would probably be good to break
down what Alex Jones and Nick Fontes's debate here. And
you know, there's people that hate Nick fin Fintes and

(07:14):
I actually used to really hate Nick fantasking.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
You are like in his inbox for a long time.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, And there were a couple of times that we
went back and forth on social media. And the interesting
thing about Nick is that, you know, Nick has been
hardcore on one side, and a lot of people don't
like Nick because they think that he is just one
hundred percent anti Semitic. He just it's not the fact
that he doesn't like Israel or what Israel's doing. He
just seems to maybe not like Jews in general. And

(07:41):
that's one of the things I've always said. It's like
when I criticized Israel or anything they're doing in the
Middle East, I criticized the government of Israel. I don't
criticize the people that live in Israel. And I think
that's a big difference.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Yeah, And I think sometimes he does that for a
shock value. It's just like today, I think he got
into it with Candice Owens and he's like, listen, Candace,
just go make me a sunch calm down, and when
you're ready.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
To talk, well, yeah, make every search.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
It's just those kind of shock value responses that he
has well, and.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's what makes a lot of people famous. I mean, honestly,
like if you say the certain things on social media
that does the shock value to where you just say
the craziest, most outlined of shit, then oftentimes even though
it may be bad publicity. That's why they always say
there's no such thing as bad publicity. Well, that's true,
because there I can't tell you how many people I've

(08:30):
known that have went on the Internet they were able
to somehow get a YouTube account and they just started
saying the craziest shit and they got away with it
for a very long time, until of course YouTube came
along and said, oh, well, no, you're not allowed to
say this. You're not allowed to say this, You're not
allowed to say this. And YouTube is still doing that.
I mean, YouTube is absolutely still censoring content. I think

(08:50):
there are still.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah, and I think all platforms to an extent are censoring.
But like on X there's that one girl, the white
girl that is really really racist, Oh yeah, that we
were talking about the other day, and she just says
whatever she wants to and does not give us shit.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah. Absolutely, yeah, I mean, and there's definitely always going
to be people that you know like that, and especially
when you have platforms or the ability for free speech,
you oftentimes will have people that pop up that are
going to one hundred percent test the boundaries of free speech.
And also I've thought about this too. It's like I
think some of these people, just like there are paid influencers,

(09:28):
for example on the Democrat Party, there are paid influencers
to the Republican Party. And Nick Fuintes actually talks about
this in this interview a little bit about how he
got screwed, why he thinks he got screwed. But then
also furthermore, kind of he was on this lineage to
come out of college do the right things. He was
going to be one of these paid conservative influencers. That

(09:50):
was his life track, you know, maybe like a Charlie
Kirk or a Bennie Johnson or any of these people.
And it just didn't happen because when he started asking
certain questions, that's when he completely got deplatform derailed. But yes,
there are paid influencers everywhere. And what I'm saying to
this point is that when you see certain people, especially

(10:10):
on free speech platforms, that just all of a sudden
pop up out of nowhere, They get this massive following,
and they're saying the in word or they're saying whatever
the hell they want to say, and they say it
all the time, and then they get pushed on mainstream
media in a big way because she was also I
think her name's Lily or what was her name, I
can't remember exactly her name. But then she got put
on Piers Morgan uncensored. She blew up megaviral, and then

(10:32):
of course the deep state media came out was like,
look at it, what is allowed on social media? Can
you believe that there are racists allowed on social media? Well,
the reality of racism is that, yes, there are racist
people out there, and if you give a free speech
platform long enough, those people are going to show up
and they're going to be racist on the platform. But

(10:53):
does racism equal censorship. I don't think so. No, I
am either, and it's because it's a free speech free
speech absolutists. No matter what you say, as long as
it's not a threat of violence or terrorism or whatever,
then you should be able to say it, whether I
agree or not.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
But going back to the paid influencers too, that's why
we were going to have Jake on the show this
evening is because he feels like that's partially what's going
on with him. The same thing that's happened with Nick Flintes, yeah,
is that he felt like he was a paid influencer
and almost not almost paid, but was told to do

(11:29):
certain things on behalf of the government and now he
feels like he's getting shitted on.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean it's going to be an interesting
conversation if we can kind of pin down Jake. This
is the second time, which hopefully we can maybe get
him on in the future. We'll see, but yeah, he's
been saying a lot of stuff out there on social
media as of late. Obviously we've had Jake on live
streams with us in the past probably three or four times,
two episodes too. Yeah, always a great it's always a

(11:57):
great guy to talk to. And you know, in especially
lately in the past two or three months, I've just
seen him completely shift, like I think he's pissed off
about something. Yeah, he is is like is something broken him?
And you know, as soon as that happened over the
past two or three months, you know, I started noticing
like his account would go black and then it would
come back on. Account would go black. So it's even

(12:19):
been kind of hard just to talk and discuss with
that to plan a podcast. Yeah, so it's been very interesting.
But I guess what we should go ahead and do
is start this debate. Because it is pretty long, We're
probably not going to play the entire thing, but what
I do suggest is that you guys go to Alex
Jones show and look at the entire debate. You can
also go to Nick Quintes's channel on Rumble. You can

(12:40):
watch the entire debate there. But if you want to
hear our opinion and thoughts on this what we're going
to do because as most of you know, Scherry and
I agree on a lot of things, but we also
don't agree on some things, and I actually think it
may be similar in this debate. I'll be curious to
see if Sherry agrees more with Alex, if there's even
enough of a disagreeance Alex and Nick fuinnts that we

(13:01):
can make that decision. But we're just going to kind
of break down what you think, what I think, and
then we also want to hear from you guys. You
can send us a message on social media, whether it's
Facebook or Instagram or x whatever, send us a message
tell us who you think won the debate tell us
who you think you are more I guess sided with
as far as your beliefs on this entire Epstein Trump deal.

(13:23):
And they talk a little bit more than just the
Epstein files, but it's very interesting to hear. So without
further ado, here is the Alex Jones Nick Fintes interview,
and Alex does talk here at the very beginning. But
I want to put this in just for context for
the debate. Here you go.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Fo twenty three four days ago, Treump put out that
Judge Department memo.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
I said Trump's behind as people say, oh, you're attagging
Trump and the Nick email latter and said, no, it's me.
Don't ask questions, shut up about it. I said, this
is incredibly suspicious. And now they're running around with the
Judge Department meet when hes like Maxwell, it looks bad.
But people take them what I've said out of context
when I'm wargaming this because I think they would have

(14:08):
used information against Trump if they had it before. But
that said, now the jury's out on Trump, the jury's
in on the Democrats and Epstein Island and Bill Gates
and Larry Summers and all the rest of it. So
I'm not an apologist for Trump. All I get is
persecuted and attacked for supporting President Trump. And I've seen

(14:33):
clips of Nick. I played it earlier before he came on,
and I'm not saying it's a wrong critique, but out
of context you could see it. No, I'm looking for
the truth. And my issue is do we throw out
Robert F. Kennedy Junior and Tulsea Cabrin and all the
good things that are happening. If stuff comes out that
he's screwing kids with Trump, of course I'm gonna expose it.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I mean, I'm not tied to that wagon.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
But in the larger issue is the Epstein issue, the
own only issue. And it's not like Nick Fointes just
came out and said, I mean it's Trump now. He
said it a year and a half ago. He was
a big supporter early on. It's I met him nine
years ago. I Thinknick's a smart guy. I agreed most
of the things he says something. So we are having
a large discussion you call it a debate here, but

(15:18):
I want to be one hundred percent clear. I will
go where the facts lead. I'm not an apologist for Trump,
but at the same time, we need to recognize that
the Democrats and the ADL and the Republicans joining him
do not want this discussion. They do not want Nick
Jay Foytes on Rumble, They do not want Alex shows
on ex or Info Warce. They do not like this

(15:39):
tonight because they don't want you to hear a real,
unfiltered discussion. Because I sent Nick a text like last
Tuesday and said, will you come on debate? He said, yeah,
how about next Wednesday night? I said, great, We're doing it.
That's the only discussions we've had, all right, And so
this isn't some scripted debate. This is a real discussion,

(16:02):
and it's not about who's smarter, and it's not about
I don't mind all that stuff. Nick's twenty six years old,
super smart. I thought he was smart when I first
met a nine years ago. That's why I'm Nick on.
He's a great interview, he's great for the show. I
haven't got a big shows to have a show. It's
not about personalities. To me, it's about really figuring out
what's happening. But to open the debate, and I'll give

(16:25):
them the four for the next ten minutes. I want
to be clear, if you actually watch my show. I'm
not running defense for Trump. I don't know what the
truth is. I'm completely freaked out. I've said Trump's actually
insanely guilty, and I've only wargamed every angle of this
trying to figure out what's going on, because I do

(16:46):
a four hour show and the Democrats ran stuff nationwide
saying I've turned on Trump twenty three days ago. I
don't care about being on CNN, ABC and NPR at
a AA channel. Those people don't listen to anyways, but they
take little ten day clips out of context. I know
they do that. I just don't want Nick and my
viewers to do that. I want you to listen to

(17:08):
what I'm actually saying. Clearly, Epstein's fsad the CIA is
asked Trump to cover it up a snow brainner. The
question is is Trump involved? If he was, where is
the evidence. So I haven't figured this out yet, and
all I'm doing is stream of consciousness. What you get

(17:30):
on my show is what I'm thinking. No scripting, no nothing,
And usually my job's easy. Is fentnyl good, No is
open border is good? No is war the Russia good?
No is Reevilla talking. I ran no my job ninety
five percent of the time is very easy. It's these
type of issues where I can tell the listeners I

(17:52):
don't know. So Nick, you've got the floor to say
whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Here.

Speaker 5 (17:56):
I'm gonna shut up for about ten minutes, as I've
been talking for about five and then I'm going to
ask you the question after that. Maybe you can inrest
it now, Okay, we can send Trump to Mars. What
comes next? This is accelerationism.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
What would if.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Kamala was in Would that'd be better? Maybe it would because
it pissed us off more. I just don't know. So
this is one of the few issues where I will
tell listeners I don't.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Know, and all I can do is wargame each scenario.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
And I would just ask people to realize, if you
see a thirty second club, actually go see what I said,
because I will then say something completely different because I'm
wargaming and don't know. So Nick is simulcass on rumble.
Nick Jay Foyd does, and I ask great to have you. Nick,
Thank you so much for the time.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
All right, and I want to stop for just a second.
We're going to get right into Nick speaking here. But
this is what I've been doing as well. And I
want everybody to understand it's not that I hate Trump
and it's not that I want Trump to fail. It
is a war gaming thing is in my head. I'm
trying to figure out exactly why the Trump administration will
be trying to cover up or hide the Epstein files.
It makes no sense. It doesn't make sense to any

(19:02):
of us, including Alex Jones. And you know, to stump
Alex Jones when most in almost every other case, he
has an answer or something to say about certain things.
I guess at times has sounded like Alex Jones has
been in support or at least, I guess, be an
apologist for Trump in some ways. And there's been a
lot of people out there I can't tell you. I
am close friends of ours, people that obviously you listeners

(19:24):
that send us messages where there's so many peoples like, look,
he's got this big plan behind the scenes. Don't worry
trust a plan. And I'm more on the side just
to go ahead and tell you that I don't think
there's a big plan behind the scenes. If anything, there's
a big plan behind the scenes, you try to hide
it or cover it up further. And so that's where
I'm at with this now, Sherry, before Nick talks, where
are you at? What do you think actually is going

(19:45):
on behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
I think that there is no cover up, and I
don't know what's going on behind the scenes. But I'm
just saying, when the Democrats were full administration for the
past four years, if they had any dirt on Trump,
why didn't they put it out then? And now why
is it being withheld that Trump is in? Because I

(20:08):
think that they tried to get any dirt they could
possible on Trump while they were in office, and you
know that includes lies, the Russian colluding thing, all that stuff.
I mean, they put out lies, they tried to they
charged him with you know, convicted him as a felon,
They tried to murder him a couple of times. You know,

(20:28):
They've tried to do everything possible to keep him out
of the administration, knowing that Americans wanted him in, I mean,
by a populist by every demand. I'm just saying, why
didn't they come out with that when they were in
charge of the administration.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (20:45):
Why?

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Now, Yeah, that's a good question. So that's your stance,
you guys know mine, And let's listen to Nick Wintes. Hey, Alex,
great to be with you.

Speaker 6 (20:56):
Yes, well, you know, we did promote this as a debate,
and we hyped it up in everything.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
But I agree with you.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
I think it is more fruitful as a discussion because,
like you, I think me and the audience, we're trying
to get to the truth. We want to know what
is really going on here. And I also agree with
you that we don't know. That's sort of the nature
of it. That's why people have a problem. We just
don't know because the government is not releasing the files.
And this Epstein scandal has been like many of the

(21:26):
other scandals concerning the deepest and most sordid types of corruption.
It's concealed, that's hidden. There is not government transparency, and
without transparency, there can't be accountability. And so all of
this is happening inside of the shadows. Now that gets
to my biggest criticism of Trump. And you said this
a moment ago, and I understand where you're coming from.

(21:47):
You say, are there other issues besides the Epstein issue.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
I've heard a lot of people say this.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
They say that for the Magabase, which I consider myself
a part of, even though I didn't vote for Trump.
I'm the demographic. If the magabases in revolt over the
Epstein files, people say, are you throwing out the baby
with the bathwater?

Speaker 2 (22:07):
What about the secure border?

Speaker 6 (22:08):
What about the progress that's being made, as you say,
by RFK Junior, by Tulsea Gabbard, the good things that
are happening at the administration.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Is it worth it?

Speaker 6 (22:17):
In other words, people say, if he's failing on one
narrow issue like Epstein, which people say realistically doesn't actually
affect people's daily lives, they say, is that a mistake? Now,
my position is that you can't compartmentalize these issues. Contrary
to that take or that defense, I don't think you're capable.
I don't think it's possible to separate and court and

(22:40):
off the Epstein issue. I'd say that's over here, and
immigration and foreign policy and the rest of it is
over there. Because the proposition of the first Trump campaign,
going back ten years ago, in twenty sixteen, or even
in twenty fifteen, when Trump ran in the primary, he
said that the reason that our politicians had failed us
over thirty years on both sides, Republican side, Democrats side

(23:03):
the right hand, the left, he said, it's not for
a lack of trying, not for lack of will, he said,
it's because the system has failed us. It's because of corruption.
They can't deliver a real victory because they're not beholden
to the people. Instead, they're beholden to foreign interests, special interests, donors,
political packs, and there was a suggestion of blackmail. There's

(23:26):
a suggestion of a shadow operation happening behind the scenes.
So why do we get these policies that are bad
for America, like free trade, foreign wars, mass migration. They said, well,
it's because the politicians are not really the ones running
the country. They're not running the country on behalf of
the voters of the people, but rather they're being controlled

(23:47):
by the money, or the intelligence agencies, or by some
shadow element the nature of which we don't fully understand now.
He said, a contravention of all of this, I will
run and i will deliver the real victories. I will
reverse all the policies because I'm not controlled by those interests.
And there was this foil with him and Hillary Clinton.

(24:09):
Hillary Clinton personified that system, and she did come from
the Democrat side, but she personified realistically both sides. The
Bush dynasty, the Clinton dynasty, the Republicans, the Democrats, the
Dennis Hasterts, and the Bill Clinton's. Hillary Clinton was the
epitome of corruption and the epitome of globalism. And so
at sixteen, you have this proposition of I'm going to

(24:31):
run with no foreign influence, no blackmail, I'm going to
fight the corruption and then deliver the victory. Now fast
forward ten years later, and Trump seems to be covering
up what is really the scandal of all scandals. It's
the worst kind of scandal. It's got every negative attribute involved.
It's children, it's sexual trafficking, it's blackmail, it's foreign intelligence,

(24:52):
it's billionaire oligarchs.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
And you say, if Trump is covering that up, we
lose faith in him.

Speaker 6 (24:58):
He loses all credit ability as that leader, as that
Caesar like leader, this once in a generation figure leading
a once in a generation populist movement.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
It strips it of that character.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
And to get a lot, maybe a lot of this
is rhetoric, let's make it more concrete. If Trump is
burying the Epstein files, which we don't know the information,
because that's exactly what's happening, and we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm sure as that I progress is.

Speaker 6 (25:23):
But if Trump is burying these Epstein files and we
can't trust him, it leads to questions like, why are
we not getting mass deportations?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Why are we getting a war with Iran? The timing evolve.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
This is a little conspicuous too, is it because there's
maybe more to the story. Do we have to draw
a negative inference that he's covering these things up because
he's named in them, because he's a participant in them,
he's compromised by them in some way? Is that why
we're not getting what's delivered? And how can we trust
that he will deliver in the future. So to answer

(25:55):
maybe the big defense of Trump, and I agree with you,
we have to steal man the other position, we may
not even agree with it.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
We might state it simply to entertain it.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
If the pro Trump side is saying, if their argument is, well,
don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, the Epstein
thing is a narrow, singular issue.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
If that's the primary.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
Defense, I would have to say it's not good enough
because if he's named in these files, then everything is compromised,
everything is touched and poisoned by the corruption. And when
this cover up is going on. Unfortunately, we cannot assume
that he is not touched by it. We actually have
to draw a negative inference. That's sort of the whole point.
And I, like you, I actually don't believe that Trump

(26:40):
is necessarily guilty.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
I think that is a assumption. I think that's an inference.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
I don't even think it's necessarily true that Trump was
on the island, or that Trump was raping kids, or
that there's a videotape of Trump.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
I don't think that's even likely.

Speaker 6 (26:54):
But when he has covered it up in the way
that he has, and as he's dug this whole deeper
and deeper, adding the DOJ cover it up, asking the
FBI to look for his name, They told him his
name was in there. Now he says his name was
planted in there. He says, the whole thing is a hoax.
You actually have to draw a negative inference and assume

(27:15):
if he's covering it up, there must be something there.
If there wasn't something there, they would release the files.
And so that's why I think this entire thing has
disqualified him completely. I don't think it's one narrow issue,
a singular issue among others. And even if it were.
It's not a minimal issue. I think it touches everything.

(27:36):
And I think the very nature of these types of
cover ups, the nature of the opacity, the fact that
it's opaque, the fact that we cannot see through it,
the fact that it's been covered up and there's been
a deception, there's been an active cover up and attempt
to change the subject and lie about the nature of it.
We actually have to draw a negative inference and we
actually have to assume that there is something damning in there.

(27:58):
That's why we're not getting it. That's the case, and
that means he's corrupted and he's in on it with
the rest of them. Now, I want to answer the
question you said at the end, because that's actually super important,
and I'll sort of treat this like an opening statement.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I don't want to ramble on and on and.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
On like a three four minutes left.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
Keep me going, sure, well, and to your point about what
comes next, because that's a very good question. A lot
of people wonder if Trump is failing, or that's the
perception on many of these issues, like the foreign policy,
like immigration, like the Epstein cover up.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Question is well, what comes next? Are we at the
mercy of the left.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
Now, are we supposed to now just be buried under
Zoron Mandani's and Kamala Harris's and race communists and sharia
law on this sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
What I would say.

Speaker 6 (28:39):
About Trump is this simple adage, when you come at
the king, you can't miss. And what does that mean?
Obviously we all understand what that means. It means that
when you come for the king, you have to finish
the job. You cannot take half measures. It's actually worse
to take a half measure because if you come at
the king when you miss, all you do is make

(29:01):
the king mad.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
And the king has an army, and the king has power.

Speaker 6 (29:05):
So if Trump and when I say the king, of course,
I'm not even referring to Trump. I'm referring to this
left wing political system. If Trump has been coming at
the king for ten years, with the sixteen campaign, with
January sixth, with the revenge campaign in twenty four, if
that is a ten year campaign going after the king,
and he's missing over and over, failing to purge the bureaucracy,

(29:30):
failing to implement Project twenty twenty five, failing to fire
fifty thousand employees, have the mass deportations. If it's this slow,
if it's so unambitious, if he's already compromising and walking back,
and people having to come up with defenses for it, well,
what are we doing. All we're doing is pissing off
the people that really run the world. And if you miss,

(29:52):
they get the next reply, and they're going to come
after all of us hard. Trump, you, me, the supporters,
the people in the deministration. We learned that the hard
way after January sixth. You know, in a way, we
kind of already did this in the first term. Trump
came at the King, was not equipped, did not have
the personnel, did not have the expertise. There's arguments about

(30:12):
what went wrong, but needless to say, it didn't work.
And so they came back and it was revenge of
the Sith. It was Empire strikes back. They came down
hard with the vaccine mandate, with the DOJ on the
j sixers, with your law, fair, with the lawfair against
Ricky Vaughan, against many people. We came at the King,
We missed, The King cracked down hard.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Here we are.

Speaker 6 (30:32):
Again, and it feels like deshchevu all over again. We're
coming at the King coming at the establishment, and people say, well,
you know, what about immigration enforcement, what about these other
good things that are happening, I would argue, we're.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Six months in. I don't know anybody that's satisfied.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Now.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
People may be defending Trump and saying, hey, the best
is yet to come.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
We passed a big, beautiful bill, we got the funding,
and now in the next six months will wrap up deportations.
In the second half of the term. That's when things
are really going to get on way. He's only six
months in. I would argue, if we didn't hit the
ground running, if we don't come at it with seriousness
and guns blazing, if we're playing catch up six months
in a year out.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Of the midterms, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
They will delay, they will procrastinate, they will sabotage, We'll
throw up roadblocks like they did before. And what's going
to happen is when we run out the clock at
the end of this term, it's gonna be the same thing,
except the Left is going to.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Come back even harder and even more severe.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
And I question, then, what good were the half measures
if all they did was invite this reprisal. So that's
why I really am an extreme skeptic. I know you're
skeptical too. I've watched your show and we did hype
it up and I said, I'm going to confront you.
But if you watch your show, you've been critical and
you've talked about the Israeli element, though no one can

(31:46):
say you haven't been honest if they watch your show.
I know you're a critic and a skeptic as well.
I'm probably more skeptical and have been far more critical.
We both want the truth, but I think we're both
kind of mapping out. Trump has put both of us
in a predicament and the whole country. How do we
now get out of it? That's really the question. So
that's kind of where I'm at, And for the purpose

(32:07):
of this debate, we are conversation. We get dispense with
the rhetoric and just speak in practical terms. Where do
we go from here? Because, like you said, we're very
short on answers and it's left us with a lot
of questions.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, so yeah, there's a lot to say with that, right,
I mean, he went out and said a lot of stuff.
Number One, Nick didn't vote for Trump, and that was
one of my big things during the twenty twenty four election,
where me and Nick a couple of times had you know,
he was almost actively trying to push people not to
vote for Trump. And I would always go in there
and say, are you a moron? Like, what are our

(32:41):
other options? Because if we don't have Trump and you
get the same shit that we've had over the past
four years, you get the bureaucracy, you get the forceing
of mandates during COVID, you get the what I believe
would have led to a tyrannical state, a dictatorship, and
I truly believed that. I think that's what they were
really ramping up. But I think we are already in
a tyrannical state, a dictatorship of sorts. I think it

(33:03):
is behind the scenes. It's not necessarily Trump or Biden.
It is the deep state. It is the people that
really pull the strings. It is the people that really
have all of this stuff, the files, the blackmail, everything
they have. And you know, you can say, hey, it's Masad,
which it may very well be. The CIA is also
playing a role in this. But I just did want

(33:24):
to say Nick didn't vote for Trump to begin with,
and as Nick said, without transparency, there can't be accountability,
and that is one hundred percent. In fact, the only
thing that I think that Trump's people want is transparency,
and that is exactly what Trump ran on, regardless of
whether people want to say, well, Trump didn't run on
Epstein solely. But what we do know is that almost

(33:44):
everybody that was pressured into the Trump administration of who
to hire for the reasoning of the Epstein files, such
as Cash Mattel. I mean, I can't even explain how
many people influenced, you know, these I can't even say
how many people influenced I guess what I'm trying to say,

(34:05):
the Trump administration to make certain picks, and especially from
social media like x and whatever. And I'm talking about
Cash Betel, I'm talking about the even Dan Bongino and
in some ways Pam Bondi, even though people were questionable
on Pambondi because you know, she was ag in Florida
at one point in time. That was around the time
that Epstein was being charged to begin with, which they

(34:27):
gave a sweetheart deal to which she technically was not
a part of. Just to put that out there, But
is he covering because he may be compromised in some way.
That's one question. And as you already said, Sherry, it
doesn't seem like that would be the case, obviously, especially
considering if the Democrats had these files, they had this
dirt on Trump before Trump ever got into office. Obviously

(34:51):
you would think they would have released the files and
played this out because he would have been destroyed, never
would have got into office. But then again, it if
Trump is saying on the same point that these files
are a hoax, they have implanted my name in certain places,
They've done whatever they can to try to manipulate the files.
Why would they not have done that before the twenty

(35:13):
twenty four election. That's the question. That is a good question.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
But when you think about going back to even the
flight logs, Yes, his name was on the flight log.
So how are you on the flight log and you
don't go to Epstein Island? Yeah, that makes no sense.
And another thing is he asked them, is my name
on the file? And they said, yes, your name is
in the file. He said, this is when he started
calling it a hoax. Yeah, but he knows for himself

(35:39):
if he was at the island or not. And if
he was at the island, do you think he would
be campaigning to have these files exposed?

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
He never really, But that goes back to I don't
think he really did campaign. I mean, he talked a
lot about, you know, before his presidency in twenty twenty four,
about the Democrats hiding these files, and he would speak
on that, you know, on set several occasions. He would Obviously,
this was not something that he went out and campaigned
solely on. I mean Trump's big campaign promise was close

(36:08):
the borders. Uh, you know, get America back to the
way America should be. We have to do tariffs on countries,
if you know, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta bring
down this national deficit. I mean, there were so many
things that people were really excited about Trump for. But
also the big reason, there's a huge reason in some ways,
if you want to say, unspoken, because there's so many
people said Trump didn't campaign on that, but everyone believed

(36:31):
that because Trump and everybody he picked, and especially all
the times he talked about the Epstein files and what
the Democrats wouldn't do, which was released the files. But
now you get into office, you get into the second term,
and also during this time when this Epstein heat is
on the Trump administration. You have Benjaminett Yahoo coming to
meet what three times in a month, you know, and

(36:52):
supposedly this was all about the guys of war and ceasefire.
But that ship was already somewhat settled. I mean, that's
nothing that a phone call can't do. But this was
actively happening during the time that the Epstein stuff was
blowing up. This is when the Trump administration, BONDI and
all of them were lying. They were going back and forth,
do we have the files?

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Do we not?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
You know, do we have ten thousands of videos or
do we not? And then Benjaminett Yahoo would show up
and he'd be like, you know whatever, And then after
that there would be another storyline, there would be something
else come out. So there's a lot of people to
ask the you know, the question, how much was Beebe's
meetings in the White House? You know, I guess a
direct result of the response by the Trump administration. But nonetheless,

(37:35):
you know, when Trump goes out, it's noted it is.
It has proved now that Trump did ask the FBI
to look for his name. FBI came back and said, yes,
your name's on there. And that's when Trump started to
say it was a hoax.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
And that's when Pam Bondi came out and said, we've
gone through all these files. In these tapes, there's no
tapes of the actual Epstein Island. These are all just
disgusting tapes of child porn, porn that we are never
going to show the public about these because these are
so disgusting, but they have nothing to do with Epstein Island.

(38:10):
And it's just so crazy how Pam Bondi and Cash
Bettel changed there, and Dan Bongino changed their entire stance,
especially Dan Bongino in for a while, I thought he
was going to quit, because you know, his reputation right
now is on the line, and he stands highly on
his reputation. Obviously he's not quit yet, but there is

(38:31):
definitely some friction going on between all three of them.
And then I also wanted to mention too that when
Trump first started picking his cabinet members, his first pick
for AG was Matt Gates, remember, and Matt Gates started
going through the initial interviews and just decided this is

(38:52):
not going to work because they were going to pull
his skeletons out of the works, you know, with him
being with underage girls or whatever was probably not a
good look for him, so Pam Bondy.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Even though by the way they dropped, nobody had any
evidence on anything, but they were going to.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Pull skeletons and they're going to try to make it
as bad as possible. Because I like Matt Gates. I
think he's a decent guy. Maybe he did, you know,
have a girlfriend that was seventeen years old. I don't know,
you know, I don't really know all the background, but
I guess my point is Matt Gates was the original
first pick. Yeah, and then he went to pay them BONDI.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Well, you know what's interesting about that too. And this
is not all about Israel. But you know, since Matt
has you know, kind of had to step down, obviously
he's not no longer a congressman anymore, any of that stuff.
Or wait, he was a senator right center. I believe
he was center. So but he's come out, especially about
Israel and Massad and Epstein a lot. I mean, he

(39:49):
has his own show I think on o In or
in It, whatever whatever network it is. He has come
out a lot about what he believes is the involvement
and the blackmail ring and scheme and who is behind it.
He has said it publicly. He has said it on
mainstream media. He's set it on his own podcast, he's
said it on social media. He has been pretty out
there with that accusation. And you know, as Alex even

(40:12):
mentions here in the beginning, and Nick Quintes and a
lot of people say, I don't think it's any you know, secret.
Now it seems that this entire Epstein thing was a
massad operation primarily, and soul could there could there have
been a reason that Matt Gates was not picked under
the Trump administration as AG and that now you know,

(40:34):
right about the time that he was picked, he was
about to be confirmed and all this stuff, all this
shit come out about him again.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
And we've talked about in past podcasts that perhaps we
don't even have the files. Maybe Massad has them hidden
somewhere and that's where the blackmail is coming from, and
that's how Trump is being blackmailed.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Could be a possibility, because it was just like a
one hundred and eighty a great turn as far as
Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Well Bongino even said, like I said on Tim Poole,
and we've played it on the podcast before on other
episodes to where Bongino said, I was told by a
very high up source that the files or somewhere else.
They're not here, likely in a country in the Middle East.
We're not going to say exactly what country it is,
wonder Yeah. So, and that was Bongino on previous podcasts,

(41:27):
and then even Bongino about two weeks ago, came out
and said, guys, I just want you to know in
a in an ex post, he said, you know, some
of the things I've seen based on our investigations or whatever,
I'm never going to be the same again. And everybody
was like, we deserve to know what the hell you're
talking about.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
And even the fact that now they're going back against
that he did suicide himself and he was not unalived
by other people yea, you know, and they're backtracking and saying, oh, yeah,
it was suicide. And you know with all the tapes
in the missing minutes fake tapes, yeah, the fake tapes
in the missing one minute and then missing two minutes,
but they were not even real tapes in the beginning,
and they're just trying to put these off to the public,

(42:05):
and they're expecting the public to be dumb and not
respond and believe everything they say.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
By the way, Pam Bondy and dooj just recently came
out two days ago though, and say that they have
recovered the miss in one minute.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
Oh, but there's really two minutes, is what I've was
actually multiple minutes, I believe, And it's a bunch of bullshits.
One thing I do want to disagree with Nick Funtez
about Trump, though, is that he did hit the ground running.
I think in the first six months he has made
tremendous gangs gangs gains gains, sorry as a gangs, he's
made tremendous gains. Of what he's doing. He has shut

(42:38):
down our borders. There's like zero people coming through now.
And that's a good thing because when Biden was in
as president, I don't even know how many millions of
people are coming in. Millions and millions of people were
coming into our borders. At least our borders are shut
down and we have accountability for that. Well, and with

(42:59):
all that stuff going on with Ice in the protests
and the people getting pissed at ICE, you know, it's
hard to do your job when you have such conflict
political conflict.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah. Well, and I think what Flint has is saying
here is not necessarily that Trump didn't shut down the border,
but Trump did heavily campaign on day one, we're going
to have the biggest mass immigration or deportation in world history.
And so if you look at actually the deportations, I
think Nick Quint has pointed this out. I believe in
some ways that Obama deported more people during his term

(43:30):
than Trump has so far.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
But Trump's only been there six months. I think He's
done an amazing job.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Yeah, and I think I think they were just trying
to say up to the point of where Trump is
and Obama wasn't at that time, that would be hard
to believe. But who knows. I mean, but you know,
And so that's that's kind of where we're at right now. Now,
let's listen to what Alex has to say.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
That power.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
You said, so, I'm in full horror. They will indict me,
for sure, they get back in. I want Trump to
be successful. And then I watched him twenty four days
ago literally come out and say through that memo, don't
investigate he killed himself. It wasn't even travicking though, is
his co conspirators in jail for it? And then they

(44:13):
said I got attacked by all the MAGA influencers saying
you're a trader, and then Trump a two days later, Yeah,
I'm behind it and shut it down. So I'm in
full horror mode. Let me ask you this question. So
I'm not going to spend ten minutes countering back here.
You have to say, how could Trump even he was

(44:34):
raping kids, which he said, there's some evidence of that.
It's obviously the CIA massades made a deal. That's what
I've been told by the lot House, So like, hey,
we got to make a deal with that security. I'm
just telling you focus, that's what it is, Lisa.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Is what they told me. That makes sense.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Why then would they bring attention to it and behave
like this. Well he's seventy nine. He is been in
nine years basically as the president. I couldn't handlessa fifty one.
And the truth is is that Trump doesn't give up.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
He doesn't break down, but he cracks up.

Speaker 5 (45:09):
And from my sources, and I don't say this mainly folks,
I just can't lie to the audience. He can't handle
the pressure and instead of having you know, Democrat operatives
at his White House, he now has Israelis. And look,
I'm the guy that always said China's the main issue,

(45:30):
the EU, the globalist black rock, because Israel controlled our
farm policemen at least, but they weren't from all my research,
the dominant groups.

Speaker 4 (45:38):
I would just say what I knew.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
But now, in this power vacuum, Israel is bragular newspapers
that they're the superpower, they control Trump. Well how do
they control Trump? And we know Epstein is Masad Maxwell's dad,
all of them and from the best until I have
Trump shut this down for that. And now he's pissed

(46:01):
because the Democrats turned around even though Trump made a
deal and are bringing it up, and that's what he's doing.
And he's walked into a trap. So now he's trying
to kind of extricate. So it's a nightmare. And so listen,
my listeners want me to go on Trump. I don't
do what my listeners want. I do what I think's best.
But at this point I don't even know what to

(46:21):
do because my enemies want to put me in prison
and we know their child molestors.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
And let the border.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
Open and we know they're bad, and then now Trump's
this big thing, and all can say is Trump rode
in on the populace wave and popular swinging everywhere, so
we should not put all our eggs in his basket.
But I'm also trying to decide, Okay, don't want the
Democrats to win the House, do I Trump needs to
indict them for crossfire Hurricane, he needs to release the

(46:48):
Epstein files. He needs to stop listening to the CIA,
or he's doomed. I mean, I think that is clear
to me that, like you said, you don't shoot at
the king once and miss and then barely survive. He's
gotten a second shot, and we've got to take them down.
He's he's got to do that. And so I think

(47:09):
it's existential. If Trump doesn't go to full war and
actually do something, then by extension, he's given it to
the bad guys. And so I think, really at the
end of the day, it's all about action, because America
will forgive him for whatever this is if he backs
away from him and indicts them for things they've done
that are cutting dry.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
But if they don't, But then that's a whole discussion.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
Nick, Let's talk about what Trump should do, but also
what is the way out of this? Because I'm like
pissed at Trump and then I look over there and
I'm like literal shark take of Piranha's ready to eat
me in the country, and i am I'm actually deering
the headlights at this point because I'm just like, I mean,

(47:55):
this is.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
A nightmare scenario.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
And Alex makes a great point here. I'm not going
to take up a lot of time in between this break.
But you know, one of the things that Alex said
was they will indyte me for sure if they get
back in. So whereas Nick, you know, he's already lost everything.
You know, he's you know, literally had a guy show
up at his house to kill him. And that was
what the months ago. How did a guy show up

(48:18):
to kill him? Had a gun? You know, it was
a guy. It was a guy, and the guy had
already killed other people before he went to Nick's house.
And this was when everybody was talking hardcore shit about
Nick because Nick had that video, the shock and all
thing like we talked about where he says, your body,
my choice. That's what Nick said. That's the way he
gets messaging out, and it's obviously you know something that

(48:40):
was he had already said post that he said, well
it was satirical or you know whatever. But that is
what people do to get their videos viral. They do
crazy shit to where everyone in the entire world sees it.
And unfortunately for Nick, there are definitely crazy to be
wild there. But as Alex says, they will indict me
for sure if they get back in, and Alex isful

(49:00):
of that, and I think most people are fearful that.
You're going to look at this in two ways, you know,
regardless of how you think Trump is handling the Epstein thing,
which is a huge issue, there's also people out there,
US Americans, patriots that love our country and don't want
our country to be destroyed like many countries around the
world have been by the globalist They're looking at this
and saying, you know, if the Democrats, if that side

(49:22):
of the party gets back in, you look at the
guy that is running for New York mayor right now,
which is going to destroy New York. You know, already
there are police officers retiring or quitting the New York
Police Department, which they don't need as it is, because
there's already been so many of them quit, as you
know already, and they're already understaffed, but they're already quitting
just because they believe that this guy's likely going to

(49:44):
be voted in. And once he is voted in, everybody's
going to quit. New York Police derment. And so we
don't want what we had because this time around it's
going to be ten times worse. And so in twenty
twenty six, which is the midterms, we're going to decide
the House the Senate there again potentially, and when you
have but that's also the reason why Trump and the
administration cannot handle this Epstein thing like they are, because

(50:07):
you're going to hand the Democrats a win that literally
they had no chance of in twenty twenty six without
this Epstein thing. And I think, in my opinion, if
we think about Israel, and if we think that Israel
is the main responsible party potentially or allegedly to the
Epstein blackmail scandal, if we think that they are involved,

(50:29):
well you have to understand that Democrats obviously likely know that,
and the Democrats also know that Trump is president now
he wants to be pro Israel. He was the one
that did the Abraham Accords in Israel and all this shit.
So you know, this Israel supposedly our biggest ally you have.
As Alex has already talked about that he according to
his sources, and look, Alex is not just bullshit when

(50:51):
he says my source is high up. Alex has a
lot of sources high up. And you know he says
he Trump is under so much pressure and it's not
this time by the Democrats, it is by the Israelis
that are inside of the administration that are almost like
his babysitter right now.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah, and it's not only that, but they're also spying
on him.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Yeah, absolutely, and that's that's what they do. As we
played that clip, you know, two or three weeks ago
where the CIA guy said every time the Israelis would
come and he was you know, when they would come
into the CIA building, he went.

Speaker 3 (51:22):
To jail actually for uh treason, I think, yeah, as
he told the truth about what was going on.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Yeah, but he said, every time the Israelis would come
into our building, we had to scan everything that they had,
and every single time they came in, they had bugging
devices that they were going to bug our offices, they
were going to bug our meeting rooms. They're going to
bug everything they possibly could. He said there was not
one time that Israelis ever came to the CIA headquarters
that they we did not catch him with bugs, not

(51:49):
one time. So it's just what most people want to
understand is like how involved Israel is in the United States.
And obviously bigger question is you can ask yourself a billion,
trillion times why that's a whole other thing. But I
think it's obviously just to manipulate, blackmail and control the
United States government politics. And I mean you can go
to APAC to know how much money they give Democrats

(52:11):
and Republicans. But what I'm saying is I think the
Democrats know the control that Israel does likely have over
the Trump administration right now, so they're going to play
this Oh hell yeah, they're going to use it because
they know they're like, oh, Trump's going to release Epstein files. Really,
are you really going to release them? Are you really
going to release the Epstein files? So, and like Alex said,

(52:32):
he's been told that Trump had to make a deal
because of national security. And we've already heard this. We
heard I think Pambondi or someone else say we got
to be careful what we released because of national secureurity?
What the hell does that have anything to do? Yeah,
what does it have to do with anything besides an ally? Right,
you got to think about it. It's likely tied to
an ally. That would mean a national security or a

(52:56):
intelligence agency operation. That is what it means. And so
anytime you hear any of Trump administration talking about we
also got to look out for national security. And I
think Cash Hotel said this as well, it's just all bullshit.
And I'm sure that whoever is inside the White House
and all these people that are kind of around Trump,
they're saying, look, guys, this is a freaking intelligence operation Trump,
and if you fuck around with this, you will be killed.

(53:18):
You know, We'll kill your ass if we have to.
I mean that's that's who knows if that's what they're saying.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Well, it reminds me when I always say his name wrong,
say it for me, not who or whatever. Yeah, when
he came on, say maybe, when he came on Brett
Bear's brettbare interviewed him and Beebe said, yeah, the Iranians
try to assassinate Trump. And then Brett said, well, how
do you know this? And it's like he could not

(53:45):
even give specific answers. It's almost like he was using Iran,
but it wasn't really them that maybe it was could
have been Israel that was, you don't know, planting something
to make it look like it was Iran.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah. Yeah, and there's I mean, I don't think there's
any evidence to anybody that's tried to assassinate Trump had
anything to do with Iran. What we do know is,
you know that the guy in Florida, you know, he
was over in Ukraine. He was tied to Ukraine heavily.
He was recruiting, you know, these mercenaries inside of the Ukraine.
But was an American citizen. The guy at the golf cart, yeah,
or the golf course, I can't even remember his name now, crooks,

(54:20):
but the other day no crooks. But anyways, all right,
let's continue this conversation.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
I agree. I mean, we feel stuck. I don't feel
stuck because I you know, a year ago, I was
saying that we would sort of end up in a
similar predicament and.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
No, man, let me stop being you.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Ten minutes I said that before he came on.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
I said, listen, I have guests on there consistently, right,
you disagree with over all your views or whatever, but
you've been dead on. So my minor star is who's
the most accurate. That's what I want. So you did
predict all this, which makes me physically ill. So so
what look at the crystal ball? Nick point tes, what
is going to happen? And then what do we do?

Speaker 6 (55:00):
It's hard to say what is going to happen next,
because you know, I was going to say we are
in a way stuck. We're stuck with Trump for the
next four years. And when I say stuck, I mean
whether you think it's good or bad. He's the president
and he's in this incontestable position. That that was sort
of the aspect of it. It was very concerning to me,
which is that if you have Kamala Harris, she has

(55:21):
no legitimacy. So a lot of people like to think, well,
if Kamala went won, what would that have looked like.
Obviously it would not have been as good, the economy
wouldn't be as good, the border would have been wouldn't
have been as good, and that's obvious. But what was
less concerning to me about Kamala against all of that,
is that she was a lot less stable, and not
by that I don't mean mentally. I mean that she

(55:42):
had no legitimacy as a ruler because she didn't win
the Democrat primary fair and square, and never did. She
didn't nobody would believe she won the general election. If
she won, no one would accept that that was a
fair and square deal, and so the regime would have
been a lot less stable and would have had a
lot less leeway. What I fear with Trump is that
he has this cult like status within the GOP. And

(56:05):
when you look at the approval ratings over the past month,
he has been declining with independence. He's hit a low
of Democrats as always, but his approval with Republicans has
been remarkably stable. It's been stabilized at just under ninety
percent approval, even in spite of everything, in spite of
bombing Iran, in spite of floating the amnesty deal, in

(56:25):
spite of the Epstein files. And so you say to yourself,
where do we go from here? What do we do next?
We're in this sort of intractable position where there's nothing
we can do because he's there and no one can
challenge him. He steamrolled Congress to get the BBB he
steamrolled many of the people in the primary throughout this
whole process. And so you say, if Trump is failing us,

(56:48):
if he's failing as a guy, and I agree with you,
there's some sympathy with it.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
You don't say it to be mean, you don't.

Speaker 6 (56:54):
Say it even necessarily to be critical, but just descriptively.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
This is an old man. He has been fighting for
a long time. He is tired, and you can see
that he can't handle it.

Speaker 6 (57:03):
You can see that it is a crackup that he
cannot handle these questions. And you watch these press conferences,
these interviews. It's extraordinary the way he keeps digging, the
way he gets asked about it and puts his foot
in his mouth with this sort of oh well, we
need to just stop thinking about that, and it's a
Democrat hoax. And you say, how is it even possible
that he's fumbling this this hard so much so that

(57:24):
people are saying, maybe it's calculated, because it is not
possible to mess it up this bat he's failing.

Speaker 5 (57:30):
He's cracking up the time, Utard saying, oh, he's going
to make Democrats release the fall.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
He's in control of the dumbasses.

Speaker 6 (57:40):
Exactly he appointed the attorney general. It's under his purview.
He can release it if he wants to. Pam Bonni
could do it. Trump could tell her to do it.
And so he's in this position. He's clearly not well,
and you could speculate about his health or something like that,
but just suffice to say he's not handling this well.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
But he also is immovable.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
And what's more is, and we talked about this the
last time, there's this exuberance and that really scared me
when he came into office.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
And by scared, I don't want to sound like a.

Speaker 6 (58:09):
Like a resistance liberal or something, you know, but a
year ago I was concerned about this trojan horse thing.
He's gonna take all the Republicans with him. Anything he'll do,
we'll have his impro mod of credibility. Ninety percent of
Republicans will support it no matter what. But then he
gets into office, then he wins the election, and you
see a Trump that is unchained, where he's like, we're

(58:29):
gonna take Canada, we're gonna take Greenland, we're gonna take Panama.
We're gonna go to war with Russia, We're gonna go
to war with China, and You're like, this is a
guy that is not handling it well. He's incontestable, and
he's totally exuberant, has this like god complex situation. And
so we're kind of strapped in for the next three years.
And you know, I would say eight years ago, what

(58:51):
I would have said, what is our course of action?
I would have said, we have to fight for the personnel.
We got to get a new chief of staff. We
got to get Susie Wilds out, we got to get
control of the White House, rest control of it from
the bad personnel, get the good advisors in. You know,
but we did that already, and even now, I don't
think it's possible. I think that this is just how

(59:14):
it's been the entire time. And you know, Trump, if
he knows he knows how to get in touch with you,
he knows how to get in touch with all these
people that are critical, he won't do it.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
You know.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
And by the way, the people that are at the FBI,
it's Cash Battel, it's Dan Bungino, it's Tulsea Gabbert, RFK junior.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Elon Musk was on the team. So you would say,
who would he call to get him out? Of the mess.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
Who would be the dream team personnel that could steer
the ship away from the rocks. Well, they're already kind
of there. I mean, what could we have better? You know,
if we're thinking about maga personnel that you could plug
in that could solve the problem that represents the base.
Could you do much better than Cash Battel and Dan Bongino?
Could you do much better than Vivek and And not

(59:59):
to say that these are the best people ever, but
these are pretty maga people. These are pretty outside the
system people to bring in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
And I want to like, I just have to say this.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
I got a bunch of calls the last three weeks
and the calls go like this, what do you want?
And I've never asked for anything. What I want is
good policy. I always want to be the outsider. And
I'm just like, what do I what do I want?
I want make America read again. I want America first.

(01:00:31):
So there's a real understanding the administration that we're it,
We're in charge, this is the way it is. And
the fact that I get these calls like the top
of the administration and they're just cutting, they're cutting drive
what do you want?

Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
And I'm just like uh huh.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
And and again the horror of Hakem Jeffreys and Pocahontas
is right there. And that's why I'm in this paradox
where I'm like whoa, and so I mean, I fear,
I feel disaster. I'm gonna be honest with yours. I
have nothing I can do but to tell the truth.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
I am just in a.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Nightmare because the Democrats are pure satanic scom we know
who they are, and you've got all this delusions of grandeur.
People that know Trump well say it's beyond meglomania. He
does not care. He does whatever he wants, which is good.
I don't care about Democrats. He doesn't even respond to
their attacks anymore because he literally doesn't care and thinks

(01:01:36):
he's invincible. And now he's negotiating with Russia and China,
North Korea and Iran. And just a week ago had
a meeting with Zelensky, said maybe we'll give you heavy
bombs to bomb Moscow. And now they may overthrow Zelenski.
So you get this idea that it's like the swirling

(01:01:59):
crazy town. And you have last week the CI director
at that at that uh meeting, they had the cabinet
meeting and Ratcliffe literally leans megals raw.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
It's called like demoning out in the meeting. And I'm like.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
And I'm just like, I'm like literally looking at places
to run to in the southern hemisphere of nuclear war.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
And I'm not the time of guy that runs.

Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
My instincts are run, run, run, and and and the
Democrats want to defeat Trump, and the Democrats want to
rape our kids, and I know they're bad. And then
you got all this crazy Trump delusion and I smell
death and and so Europe in Chicago, I'm in Austin,
big cities. Uh, this is real world stuff. So at

(01:02:49):
this point I just want the listeners of yours to know.
Let me ask you this stick comment to just the
armageddon flavor of this, but then larger issue, is there
any way to extricate Trump? Is there any path in
your view out of this, or what do we do
because because obviously the behavior of the last three weeks

(01:03:12):
on EPSTEIN is not trillion d chess. It is flailing
anger or it's covering something up. I mean, this is
just you can't lie about what this is, which I've
been saying, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
All right, I want to pause for a second before
Nick talks, but he's right, right. You have even with
the Ukraine thing. For example, you know Trump three weeks
ago when Ratcliffe which is what Alex Jones is saying
during this meeting, and he was on camera and as
soon as Trump announced which I don't even think Ratcliffe knew,

(01:03:49):
Director of CIA, I don't think he knew actually at
this moment that Trump was going to give bombs to Ukraine.
And so Trump is saying this at the board, at
the board meeting or the board table, I guess I
would say, with media in there, and you see Ratcliffe
just put his head back. Ye oh yeah, He's gonna

(01:04:10):
give more weapons. I mean, and it was like he
was just like fanboying out, like hell, yes, we got
it done. And that's the thing Trump leading into this
election was talking so much shit about the amount of
money that we have given Ukraine and then and then
you have this big blow up inside of the Oval
office I believe was o office where Zelensky came and

(01:04:32):
it was JD. Vance and Trump and they were talking
shit to you know, kicked him out, kicked him out
of the White House and said you I can't believe
you dressed like that, basically, and don't you know you're
not gonna come in here and demand this and this?
And then what was it like two weeks later, Trump's like, well,
we're gonna give weapons to Ukraine and uh, but do.

Speaker 3 (01:04:50):
You not think it's because of Putin's response and he's
not coming to the table like Trump thought he would.
You know, Trump is a business guy and he does
have a god complex. But I feel like I want
somebody in charge of our country that does have that,
somebody that thinks they are invisible or invisible or invisible.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
They're probably times lately that he wants to be invisible, for.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Sure, But I want somebody like that that has that.
You know, I'm bigger than what people think I am
or what I want. We need somebody in charge.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
That's how he got to the position he's in now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Yeah, And we need somebody to make decisive decisions and
go to the bargaining table and stop the wars.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
That's what he.

Speaker 3 (01:05:34):
Caught campaign on. But I think Putin didn't come to
the table like Trump thought he would.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Well, neither did Israel. You know, you got to keep
this in mind, you know, Trump being this big God complex,
bigger than bigger than life character. You know, during the
bombings between Iran and Israel and you know whoever, you know,
you had Trump saying they don't know what the fuck
they're doing. Yeah, and we literally post that video on Instagram.
It blew up up and there's a lot of people

(01:06:01):
that were like, damn, you know, Trump's kind of calling
at Israel because Israel was not listening, right, Benjamin Att Yahoo,
did not listen to what the United States said not
to do. And what did they do? Well, they continue
to do exactly what they've been doing. And by the way,
they haven't stopped since they have not stopped since Trump
said there was going to be a cescar, there hasn't
been a Ceascar. They have not stopped bombing, including multiple

(01:06:21):
churches that are Christian churches. Over the past two weeks.
There have been tons of Christians that were killed in
these bombings that supposedly Israel says was a mistake. But
regardless of that, Israel's not listening to Trump. You have
you know, and I said this before, you know, Trump
leading into twenty twenty four where he was like, I
can stop this war. On day one, Putin's going to

(01:06:43):
listen to me, There's no question. And then when he
gets in, you know, as this god complex figure, Putin's
like the.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Hell I am, I'm gonna do what I don't want.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Yeah, because Putin can't look like a bitch on the
world stage, right, I mean, and if he just automatically
crumbles under Trump's pressure or the administration, then Russia not
only just loses face, but loses superiority.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
But even in his interview with Tucker, he acted like, yes,
I think things are going to be way better when
Trump becomes president. I think we can negotiate and stop
these wars and something can be done. We just need
somebody with some logical sense to you know, get to
the bargaining table and stop this. Putin was even saying

(01:07:28):
that like he was welcoming Trump to come in, and
that he was welcoming and welcomed, sorry, welcoming him to
the bargaining table.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, and then he backed off. Well, and that's the thing.
I mean, we don't know exactly what to deal is,
but what I do know is that you know, if
you're going to campaign heavily about the amount of money
and the amount of weapons and everything, else we've sent Ukraine,
and then now you're saying you're sending weapons to Ukraine.
Same thing goes with Epstein. You know, hey, Democrats didn't
release this. They're hiding this, they're hiding that. And then
you get an office and now you're really hiding it,

(01:07:58):
doubling down, tripling down, getting your entire administration to have
to double and trouble down. This is why people are
starting to lose hope. And it's not And like I said,
I am absolutely more conservative than I am on the
left or whatever. I'm more libertary en. I've said this forever.
I am for the people, not the government. The government

(01:08:19):
should be working for us, and so.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Anytime that's what Trump's trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Well, I well, that's the thing. I mean, is he
or is he not? And we don't know for sure,
and I think a lot of things he is. I
mean the closed borders and the things. Some of the
things he promised has happened, right, there's no question, and
he has done a decent job so far. But what
I'm saying is by the libertarian thing or like Alex
Jones and Nick are debating here, you know, and that's

(01:08:44):
why I say when we get emails and messages where
people are like, oh my god, you're turning against Trump.
I can't believe. You might as well just be a Democrat. Now. No,
I'm not a freaking Democrat because I question or criticize
something that a sitting president is doing, whether it is
a conservative or a Democrat. I've said that, and I
don't know how much more clear I can be on this.
I don't give a damn who is in office. If

(01:09:06):
it's Trump, if it's Biden, if it's whoever. If we
see things that are not adding up, that are obviously
not transparent, and it seems like they're lying to us,
I don't give a damn who it is. And I
feel like that if you're one of those people that
say that, Okay, well Trump's in office and he's allowed
to lie to us, his entire administration is allowed to
light to us, but Democrats are not, then you're in

(01:09:28):
a cult, right, and and that that's the problem, and
don't I don't think being in a cult obviously is
a good thing at all. That's why so many people
have problem of religion. There's a difference in like having
a relationship with God or Jesus and then going to
church to where there are groups of people in that
church that want to look down on you and make
you feel like you're a piece of shit because I
don't know, because you're a sinner although they are too,

(01:09:49):
but they want to make you feel like you're a sinner,
or they want to make you feel like you're lesser than.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Them, right in them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
And so yeah, and that's the cult mentality. And you know,
and I believe there's cult mentality on both sides. I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
But it was interesting that they brought up a king
Jeffries in Pokehontas. And by the way she fell today,
did you know that I saw that? No on social
media for of course, or what she fell somewhere like
in the she fell off a step. But it was
interesting that they brought these two leaders up. Do you
think these are the leaders of the Democrat Party?

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Nah? No, I mean Hakeem Jefferies has always basically been,
I guess the leader for a large part of the Democrat Party.
Pocahontas definitely is not Elizabeth Warren we're talking about. But no,
I mean, you know, but anyways, I don't, I don't
want to, I don't want to go too much into this.
I'm gonna let Nick finish what he's about to say
because this is pretty long. We're probably not going to

(01:10:42):
play the whole thing. But we got to break down
all this because we've been having many episodes on this
and in August. What we're really going to try to
do in August is we're going to try not to
be so political, but we're still going to talk about politics.
I mean, I know some of you out there, like
I don't like politics, I don't want to hear it.
But guys, listen, I mean, there's what most people don't understand.
I guess is that most conspiracies come from politics. I mean,

(01:11:03):
if you just think about it, Martin Luther King, JFK.
Even the UFO stuff, I mean, Project Bluebeam, Operation north Woods.
I mean, just go down the line of conspiracies. How
do you not play that into politics and government? It's
just not possible. So I just wanted to point that out.
But we will definitely do more paranormal, more kind of.

Speaker 3 (01:11:22):
Like we're going to get a horror alley.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Yeah, coming up, we're going to do the Indivil Horror deal.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
We're going to by the way that the Annabel Doll
is missing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Yeah, yeah, I heard that. And then we're also going
to do we got a Feral People episode coming up,
which is going to be a good one. Got a
great intro on that as well. But anyways, let's get
back into the clib I think it's over. I think
it's over for him.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
And look, he's going to be the president for the
next few years and he will deliver some tangible benefits.
It's not all bad from a policy point of view.
He has closed the border and maybe there can be
some effort that's being made on dbanking and free space
each I would say that is one of the great
net positives, even though he didn't even really deliver that.

(01:12:04):
I would argue that was more elon Musk. Actually, with Trump,
it's the reverse. They're going to bring back TikTok, but
now there's going to be censorship. And I don't know
if you saw, but they just negotiated this deal where
they're going to have a new footnotes feature on TikTok
where it's like a fact check.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
It's like the fake.

Speaker 6 (01:12:19):
News thing that Facebook did, So you know, there may
be some more leeway in terms of free speech. I've
heard there might be some better regulations for debanking that
might go away. This reputational harm might be eliminated as
a consideration from the Federal Reserve for banks.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
There will be good trade deals.

Speaker 6 (01:12:37):
I think some of the trade deals, like with the
European Union, like with these Asian countries, there will be
some tangible benefits.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
With that being said, Trump is still a lame duck.

Speaker 6 (01:12:48):
He is a lame duck president and many of the
aspects of this presidency they're just not living up to
what needs to happen. And there's no future for him politically.
I don't even think if he was eligible to run,
we would want to vote for him yet another.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Time in twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 6 (01:13:01):
So, like I said last year, I think what the
Magabase has to do is sort of recognize we still
need to use what we can get out of this.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
You know, maybe we could have people work in the
White House.

Speaker 6 (01:13:11):
There's many gropers that are in this administration that are
building their resumes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
That's a good thing. People should still be doing that.

Speaker 6 (01:13:18):
And there are people like you and I that are
benefiting from the free speech renaissance on rumble on X.
We will benefit from that and from the debanking regulations.
But separately, at the same time, we have to start
to imagine, to your point that question, what do you want?
What do we want after Trump? Because when he leaves

(01:13:38):
office and most likely pardons himself, you and I will
still be here picking up the pieces.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
And even to the extent.

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
That we criticize Trump or have criticized Trump, it will
make no difference when the left persecutes us. So even
though I didn't vote for him, even though you've been
fair and objective and critical, it will make no difference
when the Democrats come in and clap back on all
of us on the entire right way, and we will
not get a presidential pardon. So we'll be sweeping up
after him one way or the other. We have to

(01:14:06):
start to think, what is our lives? What is our
political movement? What is MAGA the populist America first movement?
What will it be when Trump sunsets? And I think
he's already in a meaningful way sunset it. There's just
nothing new there. It's not dynamic, it's not progressive, it's
not forward thinking. It's just sort of static and waiting
to be resolved, waiting for him to exit stage Left

(01:14:28):
we have to start to think in twenty twenty eight,
what is the next phase, What is the next booster
rocket after Trump decouples, what will that be?

Speaker 5 (01:14:38):
What is the next phase? Because Trump did not defend
free speech. When I got taken off and he got
taken off everything, Elon, because I'm only a credit works too.
He is the champion of that. They ran him off.
It was his wellson lugging. But we're all living under
that umbrella. Trump wouldn't have gotten in without Elon in

(01:14:58):
my view, What is your view on that? And so
what is the Elon wildcard there?

Speaker 6 (01:15:04):
Well, what is interesting about Elon is introducing this America Party.
I'm actually interested to see where that goes and what
the outcome of that is will tell us a lot
about that dynamics in twenty twenty eight, because clearly both
parties are breaking up.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
I actually think maybe Trump is having this.

Speaker 6 (01:15:21):
Spectacular crash out, or some would argue it is maybe
dying with a whimper. I think that it's a good
thing because you see that both the right and the
left ten years after trump Ism, are disintegrating. The left
does not know where to go, and there is this
big battle going on right now in the left, between
the radical progressives and the liberal establishmentarians.

Speaker 4 (01:15:43):
Ye hear.

Speaker 5 (01:15:43):
The left has the lows of R already in their history,
no fundraising, They're flatlined. And then Trump commits political suicide saying,
don't look at Epstein. I mean, it's just ins insane.

Speaker 6 (01:15:55):
I don't think that's a bad thing, because the Left
has been disintegrated by Trump. Trump has utterly defeated them.
It's sort of like the Soviet Union, like Trump matching
them and just being tough and outlasting them. They have
sort of killed themselves with wokeism, with the purity spiral,
with the inherent contradictions. They are disintegrated. They are just

(01:16:16):
not an effective operation right now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
You see that, And I want to stop for a second,
because what Trump was, I believe, for the Democrat Party
was kryptonite. And regardless of whatever happens in twenty twenty eight,
whoever becomes the new front runner for the Republican Party
or as Nick Flintes talks about here, the America Party,
which is what you know Elon Musk has talked about
and discussed. Even though there are definitely people that are

(01:16:40):
trying to jump on board with that shit, that I
don't want any part of you know, like Mark Cuban
and some of these shitheads they're out there, you know.
And I don't necessarily think that the America Party is
going to be the answer either, one hundred percent, because
there's you're going to have so many people in that
party that are disagreeing on so many things. I mean,
and I think that's why in large part, the Democrat

(01:17:01):
and Republican Party work because you have too far you
have a far right and a far left concept or
idea or solution to the way America works, and this
America Party that's supposedly for the people, I don't think
you're ever going to get enough people to agree in
that party enough to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
Actually be more like a libertarian party.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
It kind of would, I mean, that's what you would
hope for, obviously, but it just depends because regardless of
the America Party, there are going to be people that
get in there, they're going to infiltrate it, and it
will divide and conquer as well. I mean, it's kind
of like what's happening I believe in the republic the
Republican Party right now and at a time, by the way,
for the Republican Party that you had everything going for you.

(01:17:45):
And I know that there's probably people right now thinking like,
are you really saying the Republican Party is dying? No,
I'm not necessarily saying that. What I am saying is
heavily fractured right now. And it all happened with one Yep,
it was the Epstein files, And it's not just one thing.
I mean, you know, we've I've been somewhat critical on

(01:18:06):
Palenteer and the involvement with the Trump administration of Palenteer
AI advancement, the UFO files, the JFK files, in which
are hea there's nothing new.

Speaker 3 (01:18:16):
That's come out. It's like, Okay, we've seen this, we've
done this.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
What's new. Yeah. And I'm not even saying that's Trump's
fault necessarily. The problem is is that if you're president
and you're in the White House and you're doing all
these things, they're they're they're feeding in And this is
what I think is happening. I think they're feeding people
to Trump, as in these billionaires just feeding them. The
social media oligard, the the big tech bros, the the Pallenteers,

(01:18:42):
the chat GPTs, the open AI, the you name it, everybody,
not even grow because that's kind of about out. That's
out now, because even though Peter feels kind of partly
behind groc as well. But you're feeding Trump his ego.
You're feeding Trump's ego with these billionaires that are heavily investing.
And that is what Trump is just thinking about. That's

(01:19:03):
all he's thinking about is oh, my god, five hundred billion,
six hundred billion, seven hundred billion, five hundred billion, another
three hundred billion. And then while at the same time
you have all this very important shit going on on
the outskirts of everything, while also the globalist which is
who these people are, the intelligence operatives, the deep state

(01:19:24):
outliers that are coming into the White House and saying, hey,
we're willing to invest five hundred billion as long as
you let us do all this crazy shit with AI,
which will eventually lead to mass surveillance, we will be
the next China. And this is just all being set
up for whoever the deep state picks to be the
runner of this country next. It'll be likely a dictator
or authoritarian. And although Trump is touting it as a

(01:19:47):
good thing, he's touting it as like, look at my accomplishments.
Look at all the shit I'm bringing into America. Vaccine
exact same thing as the vaccine one percent. They're like, Trump, listen,
you can save the world. To do is just go
along with this. But but to go along with this,
we need immunity for all of the pharmaceuticals. We need

(01:20:08):
to never be sued. We don't ever have to release
anything about side effects or that shit. Yeah, for one
hundred years, we got to make sure we get all
that shit done. But you can say with this vaccine
that you saved the world from a pandemic? Do you
not want to do that? And Trump's like, hell, yeah,
I want to do it. Let's do it. And so
he did it. And even after, for years after the vaccine,
Trumps still even knowing all the shit out. There's no

(01:20:30):
way Trump and his team did not know the side
effects of the vaccine and everything that was coming out
about it that will still come out for years to come.
He knew that and still doubled and troubled down on
his accomplishment of Operation Warp Speed. And so the same
thing is going to happen with the AI. AI is
going to be brought in five hundred billion dollars six
hundred billion dollars there and then once the deep state

(01:20:51):
picks their next person to be put in place, but
this person is going to be their main operative. This
is going to be their person to where they bring
in mass surveillance to where you cannot you cannot pee
in your bathroom without them knowing it in some way,
shape or form. And it's very close to that already.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
But do you think the deep state picked Trump? Or
were they defeated by Trump? Because I thought about they
were defeated by Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
I've thought about that, right, I've thought about, like, could
the could the deep state have actually picked him? Since
they did not kill him and they did everything they
possibly could do to destroy him, They're like, well, let's
meet in the room and let's meet for a week.
And they're like, here's what we can do. We can
bring him in and we can control him. And heavily

(01:21:40):
like do what do what? Let let's go along with
what Trump does, go with business in the business. Yes,
and let's and let's infiltrate this country that way that's possible.
And I know most people are like, oh, that's a
big conspiracy theory, But guys, do you understand how smart
and intelligent these these these operations are. I mean, they
have to control the world. They have to have these

(01:22:01):
very sinister, in my opinion, evil type things they do
to be able to control the world. They're a lot
smarter than you think. But do I think that the
deep state picked Trump? I don't know. I mean, that's
a good question, that would be a good conspiracy theory
to go down. Or did Trump beat them outright because
of how garbage the Democrat Party was. That's likely the scenario.
But either way, it seems like that the deep state

(01:22:24):
has control of Trump, at least in my opinion right now.
And I know that's hard to hear, but that's my opinion.
And I would love for you guys to tell me
what you think. Do you think the deep state is
controlling Trump? Or do you think Trump's still in charge
and he has something bigger going on behind the scenes.

Speaker 6 (01:22:40):
This was like Corey Booker giving this ridiculous speech, like
that's their guy. Bernie Sanders seems to be the only
one with the doctrine. He's ninety years old. Zorron Mamdani
wants to do socialism. It's not working. But now the
right is also disintegrating due to the contradictions of Trump
is so it's like Trump has killed the left, he's

(01:23:00):
also now killing the right, such that on the left
you have this progressive liberal split. On the right you
have a split now with the Silicon Valley people hopping off,
the anti war people hopping off, the Q conspiracy people
hopping off.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Like the whole thing's coming apart.

Speaker 6 (01:23:16):
And now that Elon is talking about a third party,
an America Party that's based on center right, common sense policy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:23):
It's going to be free speech H one B. Is
this sort of thing. It's creating an opening.

Speaker 6 (01:23:28):
The first act you know, according to the Cobbolists in creation,
they say, is to create an opening. I'm not a Cobolist,
by the way, but this is what they say. They say,
the first act is to create an opening a container.
And I was such a believer that Trump needed to
lose for that to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Maybe he needed to win for that to happen.

Speaker 6 (01:23:48):
But now that Trump is sort of crashing and burning,
new options are coming forward. Powerful people like Elon and
Tucker are articulating alternative pathways forward. There is now just
like for the first time, a wide open playing field.
In sixteen, it was like Clinton and Bush, those were
your options.

Speaker 2 (01:24:05):
Trump scattered the ashes.

Speaker 6 (01:24:06):
Of the Bush dynasty, defeated the Clintons, defeated the Obamas,
defeated the Bidens.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Now it's just like a wide.

Speaker 6 (01:24:13):
Open playing field after all this, and this is where
we can really begin to create.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:24:17):
I agree wonderly the spell of Israel lobby being able
to do whatever they want and say us to shut up.
That's over and all the other spells are broken right now.

Speaker 4 (01:24:29):
And so.

Speaker 5 (01:24:31):
Is there any way for Trump to resurrect himself and
pull out of this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
I don't think so.

Speaker 6 (01:24:38):
I think that even if he did, look people will
eventually move on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
You know how it goes. You've been doing this for longer.

Speaker 6 (01:24:44):
Than I have, as long as I've been alive, and
you know how it goes, especially now more than ever.
A story is in the news for a week and
then people forget. Now, this is going to leave a mark,
this is going to have lasting damage, but just like
everything else, in a few months, people will forget.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
And that's optimistic, fundamental miscalculations. I don't mean to Trump,
but his advisors, people very close to him, have told
me the last year they go, it's beyond meglomania.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
He literally thinks he's invincible.

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
And he's delusional now and I'm being honest with viewers
right now, and they're very concerned. And now you see it.
The fact that he thought they could put a memo
out which he wrote, which he had written, which I
told people day one. They said, oh, you're a trader,
nos Pambondi. It was a minute later to say he
killed himself. He acted alone, there was no human driving,

(01:25:36):
there are no files it is. It is suicidal politically,
but it came out of his grandiose, extreme arrogance and
I get under pressure. This is what he turned into
is how could you deal with pressure and not stop?
So you know, Nick, it's very paradoxical. And every time

(01:25:57):
I say, look at this horror, I then look at
I came Jeffries and Pogahonnas and AOC and lan Omar,
and I just go, okay, I'm happy to cut Trump loose.
My listeners want me to, and it feels good. But
then I go, what is the second order response? When

(01:26:18):
I look at World War Z zombie army, and that's
where I like hit a wrick wall.

Speaker 4 (01:26:23):
I'm just like Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Yeah, I think that.

Speaker 6 (01:26:29):
I don't think that's the worst case scenario, to tell
you the truth. I know that people don't want to
see Trump go down because they worry about the left
and things like that. But I think the worst case
scenario is that Trump, at the end of the day,
was never a reason. Trump putting us asleep is the
problem exactly. I think complacency. I think Trump rolling us
back into the system. I mean, one thing that people

(01:26:52):
never mention is with Trump winning in twenty four, nobody's
talking about the rigged elections anymore. You notice that, like
Trump won twenty four and now people say, and there's
polling on this, they say, we believe the elections are
free and fair and it's all legit. Now with these
new advertisements the American Eagle, the Dunkin Donuts, people say, oh,

(01:27:12):
the advertisements are great again. People are being rolled right
back into the system, supporting more Middle East wars, supporting
more skilled.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
Skilled they push and when it fails, they flip right
back to put us a sleep.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
And that's a great point that Nick made here, right,
And that's another thought to think about twenty twenty four
is as Nick said, and I've saw these polls a
lot of people now when they're polled about the elections
and safe and secure and all this stuff, just like
safe and effective. Laura Trump had a lot to do
with that. Yeah, I know, sure, I get it, we're
fair this time, but also everybody feels like they're fair

(01:27:48):
right now. They feel like, Okay, we're good now, don't
worry about any Laura Trump. Maybe, I mean, that's what
they want you to think. But I mean, how much
is one person going to actually do. I don't know.
But all I'm saying is most people don't think that
the election in twenty twenty was maybe even stolen out,
and maybe going forward we're going to have free and
fair elections. I think the problem is is the system,

(01:28:09):
and I don't think people really understand how degraded and
corrupt the system is. And so as Nick said here,
you know, he, I guess did not want Trump to
get into office so that the system in whole would
completely crumble under the next administration to where people would
finally just absolutely have enough of the bullshit and it

(01:28:29):
would have to lead to something for a complete reform
of the United States government. But that may still happen.
And it may still happen because of the amount of
people that voted for Trump, and depending on what happens
going forward, and especially if people just completely get their
you know, the winds taken out of their lungs or
the wind taken out of their lungs, maybe that's going

(01:28:52):
to do more for the re establishment of the government
than if Kamala or someone else would have got in.
I don't know that's true. And listen, I'm not you
know when you hear people like Nick and them talk,
you know, as a Trump supporter, and I was primarily
a Trump supporter by far over anybody else. No, and

(01:29:13):
still am, I mean, I'm still a Trump's where I
I want absolutely the best for Trump. I do pray
for Trump and in president I mean hell, I prayed
that whatever was going on over the past four years
under Biden Harris, that something would be done that would
fix it change because this is our country, this is
the country we live in. And and and I and
I in our podcast is for the critical for the

(01:29:36):
I guess critical nature of the government because look, we're
not for people that are new for some reason, and
you think that we are a pro government no matter what.
Podcast and you haven't been listening for a while. And
if you think we're just pro Trump, no matter what either,
you've not been listening for a while. We are here
to call out the bullshit. We want to expose the corruption,

(01:29:59):
and we want to try to bring to the forefront
of the truth. And like I said, it doesn't matter
who's in office, we want the best for the people,
which is why I always say I'm more libertarian as
far as smaller government, more power to the people. Back
to what the government was actually created for in the beginning,
a constitutional republic, and it was to be dictated by

(01:30:20):
the people, not the government. And we worked or sorry,
the government worked for us. We did not work for
the government. And so that is the entire everything I
ever say on this podcast is all about for the
people and not for the government. So I don't care
who's in office, whether I meet you, whether you're my
best friend, whoever, if you get an office and start
being compromised and start doing shit that I'm like, Oh

(01:30:42):
my god, is this dude really starting to do this shit?
I mean, And that's what a lot of people right
now feel, and they feel like, damn, this was my bro,
this was this was who.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
We stood behind it, and I put it out there
on social media and I'm like, oh my god, why
are you doing this, because it's making me look bad.
You know, in some senses it does. When they didn't
release the Epstein files, it makes Republicans that stood by
Trump or standing my Trump, it does make us look bad, like,
oh see, we're laughing in your face. Now here's these

(01:31:15):
Epstein files. They even have Donald Trump's name on the
front of the folder, and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
He won't release them.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
You know, it just it makes it look bad in
the in the eyes of somebody that is against your party.
But calling out things, I do have to call out
Alex for just a minute, because who's talking about zombie army?
But he sounds like he's part of the zombie army?
Do you not hear?

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Like the lurrying? And I know that he's.

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Been like on this health kick thing and he quit
drinking and he's working out all the time. Is he
just tired or is he back on the little sippy
set now?

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
I don't think so. I mean, he don't seem drunk.
It's just he is kind of slurring some of his words.
I don't know, it's weird. I mean, it's not like
we haven't. Yeah, I know, Yeah, I know, but but
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
I don't call out saying, oh, yeah, I'm getting one
hundred percent healthy and I'm working out and I quit
drinking and doing all this. You know, if you're going
to do that, you got to stick by it. Another
thing I wanted to mention is when Nick Funt has
just brought up American Eagle and Dunkin Donuts.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
That's a big thing. That's a big thing right now.
And that started with Sidney Sweeney doing a commercial for
I guess what is it, the Genes company. Yeah, and yeah,
I mean, and then you had you know when when
Beyonce did the Genes commercial. Oh she was a queen.
She was amazing. Yeah, Sidney is white. You know, it
looks bad.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
Oh we're going back to But Nick said, well, we're
going back to what we used to do all the time.
But why isn't it okay to have a white model.
Why does it have to be a black model. I
don't get that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:47):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
And I loved duncan Dunk dunkin Donuts commercial. I think
they did that on purpose, and I think they did
it in the right amount of humor, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:32:59):
Yeah, and she's talking about there's this there's this white dude,
this kind of fit. He looks like he's probably twenty three,
twenty four. He's got like a unbuttoned down, like tropical
shirt on, and he's doing a commercial for Dunkin Donuts
and they literally did this. It was so weird, especially
after all the controversy of Sidney Sweeney and all that.
Then Duncan Donuts pulls this commercial out and it's hilarious actually,

(01:33:21):
but you know, all this stuff is like even stuff
like that, it's like, damn, Okay, well we okay, First
of all, I don't really give a damn about who's
in advertisements or not. But I mean, obviously we have
seen that there's been a massive shift and ads and
movies and everything, and you know, there should obviously be
equal dispersion based on talent, not colored, not race, not religion,
not none of that stuff. And so now they're starting

(01:33:43):
to do it to where it's like, hey, we're bringing
in Sidney Sweeney. Obviously, because Sidney Sweeney is known as
like for dudes or anybody on social media that knows
anything about who she is she's like supposedly one of
the hottest chicks on the planet. Hot chick. Yeah, and
she's been in tons of movies. She's kind of the
most sought after female actress on the planet. And then
you have this other guy that I don't even know

(01:34:03):
who the hell he is, but they kind of did
the same thing. But getting back to what we were
talking about, this is not a bashing Trump episode. It's
just that this is a episode where we have to
question what the hell is going on and what does
the future hold because we don't know, we don't know
what the future holds, and it's a scary thing, you know,

(01:34:25):
and especially as they have both articulated in this debate
so far or this discussion to where it's like, if
you see the other side and what may be coming
on the horizon, if the fact that this Epstein saga
or scandal really hurts the Republicans and the Republicans lose
twenty twenty six, and then they lose the presidency the

(01:34:47):
presidency in twenty twenty eight, that's when all hell breaks loose,
and so you know how much involvement behind the scenes
is being pressured on the Trump administration. However, that may
be to destroy the Republican Party. Now there is that
conspiracy aspect of it as well. Now, Alex said on

(01:35:07):
just a few minutes ago, he said, the q tards. Now,
the reason I want to say this is because we
obviously have many people that listen to us that are
in the q Andon and the QAnon thing for me
is I've always thought it was a SIOP, and the
QAnon thing was heavily used during January sixth. The q
Andon thing has been a massive, consistent, in my opinion, siop.

(01:35:30):
A lot of the q andon believers believe that even
during the Biden and Harris presidency that Trump was behind
the scenes doing all this shit. He controlled the military.
QAnon said him and Robert F. Kennedy was going to
be the president and vice president, that he was the
one really in control, and he was going to indict
all these people, put him in jail, Hillary and Obama

(01:35:51):
and all these people. And then even Trump the other
day on x after the Russia collusion thing, all the
files have come out about that. You know, Trump came
out and said, just so you know, Obama has the
presidential immunity, so which means we're not arresting him, We're
just making this big scene basically for no reason. And
a lot of people were like, look, listen, if there's
treason going on, if this is essentially what it was

(01:36:13):
between Hillary Clinton and Obama, people need to be in jail.
Don't just talk about this shit. Don't just hype everybody up,
especially in the midst of the Epstein saga, to where
everybody is pissed off about your response to Epstein files
and you're doubling and tribling down. I'm saying that it's
a hoax and it's all this bullshit, and then you
come out with the Russia collusion. But yet it's like

(01:36:34):
even Trump was posting memes about Obama being in jail
and all this bullshit, and then Trump comes out, It's like, oh,
there's presidential community. Oh well, we're probably not going to
arrest anybody. They're likely not going to arrest anybody. I
just want everyone to understand that no one will probably
be arrested.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
Well, in fact, he was on an interview and I
can't remember where he was being interviewed at the time,
but it was talking about a Hillary with the Russian
collusion stuff. And remember all the memes that are going
on with her in jail and.

Speaker 2 (01:37:01):
Behind bars and all that, and that happened either.

Speaker 3 (01:37:03):
And when he was on the interview, he said, even
if she was guilty, I would not because of her
status and what she's been and she's a president's wife.
I almost said husband, a president's wife.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
I would know you're talking about Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
I know I'm not talking about the Mike. But he
said I would never put her in jail. I would
not do that if I were a president, because that
just does not look good for America.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
That's what he said. Yeah, but the reality is is that,
you know, if you go and do some stupid shit
as a citizen, your ass is definitely, oh Joe. But
yet you're saying that because you're a political figure and
you do even more corrupt shit, that really, uh, you know,
I guess implicates America and the American people and the
decisions of the American voters. That that's not like one

(01:37:48):
of the biggest crimes ever. I mean, think about Snowden
when he exposed what the United States government was doing
and the spy and on the American people, and yet
they charged him with treason and likely if he would
have been caught before he went to Russia, he would
have likely had gotten the death penalty. Yeah, but that's Snowden.
But if you're all of them. But if you're part

(01:38:08):
of the system and you go along with the system,
you're good. But if you expose the system, your ass
is going to be put to death. And that's the reality.
And listen, Snowden had nothing to do with national security
or any of that shit. He was literally helping the
American people by giving them the proof and the facts
and the truth about what the government actually does on

(01:38:30):
a daily basis to you. And yet look what his
position was. You come back, you're basically going to be
put to death if you try to circumvent a presidential
election or try to make up Russian collusion or god
knows what was on the laptop from from Hillary Clinton
and the acid Washington that she did, even the Pizzagate

(01:38:51):
stuff that was the conspiracies around all that. Maybe that
had something to do with was she acid washed and
completely destroyed all these emails? We don't know. If you
think about Podesta and all the emails back and forth,
think about what you can do all of this shit
and be completely good. You're fine. But as soon as
you are snowed in and you want to expose what
the government is doing on you the people, then you

(01:39:13):
are going to be put to death. So if you
don't understand when you go and vote and you and
you have the support behind one particular candidate, if you
think that that one particular candidate is going to die
for you or go to bat for you, doesn't really
matter who it is. And I think that's a problem
with a lot of people right now is they felt
like Trump was that guy. And I'm not saying he isn't,

(01:39:35):
But what I am saying is is that it seems
like there's a lot of people fill in let down
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:39:41):
But do you think they're going to because it sounds
like they're backpedaling again and that they're going to try
to come out with the files. In my opinion, if
they do come out with any files, they're going to
be so rejacted that you won't know any new information.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Well, but listen, they're they're they're scurrying. You know, they
scurried to give Blaine or Gizlaine Maxwell's prison. And I
don't know exactly why, but I would love to know
exactly why why they sent their Deputy Ag. They went
interviewed her. Will she ever actually come in front of Congress?
Likely not, And even if she did, it would be

(01:40:15):
in a confidential, classified setting, because.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
If anyone knows it's not going to be, it'll be her.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
Well absolutely. But what I'm saying is, even if Gaslaine
Maxwell came to Congress, which Congress wants to subpoena her,
that will never be allowed to be a public hearing
skiff or something. It'll be something, Yeah, it'll be something
that's classified in nature. You'll never likely find out any
information about it. It'll be classified. It'll it'll never be
seen the light of day. Will it ever, I mean,

(01:40:44):
will even help the Congress people that are interviewing her.
Likely not. And the bigger question is did the Deputy
ag that went to visit Gislaine Maxwell, which was just
a week ago, did they go there specifically before she
was poenaed by Congress because Congress Republican members of Congress
were saying we're going to subpoena her ass And as

(01:41:05):
soon as that shit happened, you had the Deputy ag
going to her prison with who god knows who else
doing and saying this God knows who else. Yeah, And
so what were they in their saying. They were probably saying, look,
if you want to pardon, and if you ever want
to be out of this prison.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
Yeah, and if you want to stay alive, you got
to do this, this and this. But I think too
that maybe she came out and said, hey, listen, I'm
willing to talk if you will help me get a
pardon in some way or fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
Yeah, but I'm saying as soon as Congress started saying
they were going to subpoena her, that's when the deputy ag.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Hauled down wanting to immediately interview her.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
And I well, I say interview, but probably interrogate, slash threaten.
I mean, I don't know. I mean, this is all speculation,
we don't know, but it's just very odd timing. All
of a sudden, they gave a shit about Gazaye Maxwell
sitting in prison after Congress says they're going to subpoena her. Her,
and and also then they also had to think about
like how much access maybe Congress people could have had

(01:42:06):
the Ghislaine Maxwell to go and talk to her. So
it seemed like maybe they had to get to her
before anybody else. Now what I'm saying here is that
it was weird the Deputy Ag went And it's also
strange because we don't.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
Have to know Pam BONDI would have gone.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Yeah, but we also don't know, like who is the
Deputy Ag, who is he connected to, who is he
tied to? I would love to know. I need to
do a deep diah and to say what his ties are,
who is funding is, from what connections he's had in
the past, you know, has he been involved in massade
or or kind of an Israeli asset in the past,
Because I think there's a lot of those people in

(01:42:42):
the Trump administration White House that have been that, and
I also think that happened during the the Biden Harris administration.
It's not just Trump get I guess the problem is
a lot of people thought, like, you know, maybe when
Trump comes in, you know, he's going to get past
the bullship. He's not going to care as much about,
you know, the the influence or the controller pressure of

(01:43:02):
Israel or foreign lobby or intelligence, especially after all the
shit he went through leading up to this election. But
we don't know, we don't know what is likely to happen.
So I would say that we could play more of
this interview, but it's an hour and forty five minutes
were already in now and so what I think I
would rather you guys do is go listen to the

(01:43:24):
entire interview. You can find it on x You can
just go to Alex Jones and look up Alex Jones,
Nick Fuintes. That's probably the best way. They got out
a lot of what they kind of believed in thought
or just some of their opinions on what's really going
on behind the scenes between Trump, Israel, Epstein, you name it.
But we did just want to kind of break down

(01:43:46):
their initial thoughts. And I think that just to kind
of give you guys an idea. We're not against Trump.
We want the best for America. We want the best
for you guys, for the people that are living in America.
The ones that are not living in America. You guys
likely understand because if you're in the you're in certain places,
you already know that your country is going to shit,
and you're trying to figure out how to save it
and fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
Yeah, and they look to America for help in some ways.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
Yeah, and so so we got to hold you know,
we have to hold everyone accountable, no matter who that is.
And you know, guys, I'll be honest. You know, there's
been so many of you that reached out and said, look,
I'm sick of political I'm sick of this. I understand
that for sure, and that's why in August we're going
to try to do more episodes that are not just political.
We're going to try to do, like we said, the
paranormal stuff. Stuff is very interesting to us. Old time conspiracies,

(01:44:33):
things are mysterious. We're headed into spooky season. We're about
in August, I think tomorrow, and you know, with that
being said, we got only a couple of months until Halloween.
Temperatures are going to start cooling. We're very excited to
talk about a lot of this stuff, especially Amnibhore, the
feral people. We've got a lot of stuff on the
I guess agenda. So very excited about that. And as

(01:44:55):
we said, we're going to try our very best to
be as authentic, and like I said, that might come off,
that might come off a little brasket sometimes, but I
think overall it's going to be for the best. And
so we're gonna close this with this song, and it
is underwater by nick caution and until next time. Guys,
let us know where your thoughts are. Give us a

(01:45:17):
good rating wherever you listen to us. But I see
no degree. I count it still. I made it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Work with my allegiance, thanks my fallen souls. I had
to grieve them when I'm at my lowest. When I
need them, I don't strip too much. I know they
looking down, so I was looking up. We just swimming's
round down with all the bullshit. I'm built to be
a tank. I take shots like a bank backboarding on
a plane, take shots at the gang bitch walking on

(01:45:48):
a plane. I was charging up for years. I'm back
walking out the tank. Hold up for I was born
to lose. Then I learned to wind. Ignore the lives
they force on you, and I ain't trying to preach.
The ship was looking dim.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
I almost gave it up, but that's just.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
What it took to win, crooking good guys with quotes
around the good guys. Hey, we live in misunderstanding times.
Cut the virus off my body, trying to stop the spread,
and she gonna shoot him, but don't stop until you
shot the hand. It's like the walking down the man's
a walking live I'm five vapored on no money. Yumma
stolen's fish. When be y'all my French bitches at my
paras shows, I fly to see them that get with

(01:46:23):
for me. Like Jaredo's ask me to splip me off
this ship. I'm going comba toes off the grid with
five four and O's he just swollen those been approaches.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
The bus rides going home, pushing til we overflow. That's
just how the story goes. I'm trying to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
See it's not a secret.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Live with reason reason.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
I decreate no degree. I couldn't it Still I made
it work. Yeah, my allegiance plas my fallen souls had.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
To agrieve on the degree.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
I when I'm at my lowest sween I need them.

Speaker 2 (01:46:53):
I don't trip too much. I know they're looking them,
so why be looking up?

Speaker 1 (01:46:57):
We just swimming drown front in front of the front of,
front of,

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