Charlie Kirk Assassinated | Shooting Breakdown | RIP Charlie

In a shocking and tragic turn of events, conservative leader Charlie Kirk was fatally shot today while speaking at Utah Valley University. Just 31 years old, Kirk leaves behind his wife Erika, their two young children, and a movement that shaped conservative youth politics in America. In this urgent episode, we break down what happened, eyewitness accounts, the immediate reactions from President Trump, national leaders, and law enforcement, and the implications this assassination will have on the political climate heading into the 2026 elections. This is not just a news story, it is a moment that will ripple across America for years to come.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
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I hate to admitted I'm out of ities. I don't
know what to do. Most of the times I think

(00:28):
I'll make it through, but all that it takes one.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Hello and welcome to Investigatory Podcast. I'm your host, Shad
alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're here
with very deeply troubling and very somber report. Just moments ago,
President Donald Trump confirmed the tragic death of conservative activist
Charlie Kirk. According to Trump, Kirk was fatally shot in
the neck while speaking at Utah Valley University earlier today,

(00:56):
September tenth, twenty twenty five. This devastating incident occur during
his appearance as part of the American Comeback Tour, and
the fatal injury left him with no chance for survival.
Eyewitnesses reported a single shot fired from a building approximately
two hundred yards away from where Kirk was speaking, widely
believed to be the Lostly Center rooftop, and after which

(01:16):
he collapsed and was quickly taken to the hospital, where
officials later confirmed his passing. The emotional and political fallout
has been swift and widespread leaders across the political spectrum
condemned the attack. Former President Trump morn Kirk as a
legendary figure who deeply understood mobilized American youth, Vice President
Jade Vance, Democratic figures including Governor Gavin Newsom and former

(01:37):
Vice President Kamala Harris, and others a cross party lines
to express shock, sorow and united condemnation of political violence.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Utah Valley University has shut down.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
His campus is spending classes and authorized law enforcement to
evacuate or shelter in place as they continue a joint
investigation with the FBI and the ATF. Initial reports about
a suspect and custody have been dispelled. Authorities now confirmed
no one currently in custody, and the search continues. Charlie Kirk,
just thirty one years old, rose to prominence as a
co founder and CEO of Turning Point USA, an organization

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that became a formidable force in conservative youth engagement nationwide
since its founding in twenty twelve. He was a vocal
and divisive figure, influential in mobilizing young voters and stirring
national conversations through both activism and media platforms. His wife,
Erica and their two young children were reportedly present at
the event when the shooting occurred. The shock of this

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attack extends beyond the political realm. It's tragic, it's absolutely devastating,
and this is gonna be hard.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
I'm not gonna lie to you guys.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
This is going to be a very hard episode. It
is right now five five pm on September tenth, twenty
twenty five. I believe that we actually got the support
probably a couple of hours ago from one of our listeners,
and when I actually saw the text, I didn't believe it.
I actually thought that someone was just you know, posting

(03:02):
some crazy stuff online. And then obviously we turned into
Fox News, we saw Charlie Kirk was talking at the
Utah Valley University campus, which is just outside of Pro Vote, Utah,
which is where one of our good friends lives. And
he was actually kind of traveling around this area during
the time. So there was FBI, there was kind of everybody,

(03:23):
you know, going to the scene. Charlie Kirk was doing
what he always does. You know, he goes to college campuses,
he debates people. He he is a voice of reason.
He is someone that look although he is very stouch
in his opinions, in his beliefs. He was at least
one that would allow people on the microphone to give
their opinion and their beliefs and discuss it like people

(03:45):
were supposed to do in America, you know, without violence.
And Charlie Kirk was never fearful of what may come,
you know. And that's one of the things, guys, is
that you know when you're in this space, when you're
in the influencer space, or you're in the space like
char Arlie Kirk to where Charlie Kirk and Turning Point
USA was so pivotal in just the drive and the

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push going forward with Conservatives and Christianity and everything that
Charlie and Turning Point did for our country when the
left and the Democrats were desperately trying to destroy our youth,
destroy the people in our high schools, even starting in
elementary school and middle school, and then of course on
college campuses, where so many people often wonder is it
even worth going in sending your kid to campus or

(04:29):
to college anymore, because all they're going to do is
they're going to leave college campus and they're going to
be indoctrinated with some type of weird crazy left ideology.
So what Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA did was
they would travel across college campuses all over the United
States and they would go and they would stand up
and talk to the youth and listen. A lot of

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the times that these youth would.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Come to talk to Charlie Kirk, they would.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Have all these very rich, idealistic opinions based on what
they learned college and what they learned from their far
left professors. Charlie would try his very best to win
them over with logic in fact. And this was something
that Charlie did so well. And yet he was fearless,
you know, he was fearless in a way that if

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you are speaking in front of that many people, also
knowing how many people out there really truly hate your message,
he still did it. He still did it with the
risk that he knew he was taken. Just like at
Utah Valley University, it's not very easy to lock down
a campus or to get checkpoints going in when you
have that many people showing up for an event.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
And that was like one of the largest campuses I.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Believe it is in Utah.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Absolutely, you think about BYU, everybody's heard of Brigham Young University,
but actually I was talking to Nathan.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Utah Valley University is the biggest university in Utah with
over forty thousand students, I believe, but don't quote me
on that. But this is going to be very hard.
It's going to be a very very hard episode to
get through. We're going to give you everything we possibly
can to the updates and all that, and you know,
just to go ahead and play. This is the latest
from Fox News right now. We're going to just listen

(06:07):
to it with you.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
See what the very latest is. As of five o'clock PM.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Here you go, Fox News Alert and welcome to the five.
President Trump just announcing that Charlie Kirk has died after
being shot at an event in Utah for his Turning
Point USA organization. The President said, the great and even
legendary Charlie Kirk is dead. No one understood or had
the heart of the youth in the United States of

(06:33):
America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by all,
especially me, and now he is no longer with us.
Melania and my sympathies go out to his beautiful wife,
Erica and family.

Speaker 7 (06:48):
Charlie, we love you.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
You will have everyone on the five's reaction in just
a moment. But let's get you caught up on the
news with the latest. Jonathan Hunt joins us. Now Hi
Jonathan in.

Speaker 8 (07:00):
A tragic scene unfolding on the campus of Utah Valley
University in Aurum, Utah, Utah. That's about thirty minutes south
of Salt Lake City, where Charlie Kirk was holding an event,
the first event of what was called the American Comeback Tour.
At about twelve twenty local time, Charlie Kirk was sitting

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underneath a small tent in an outdoor area of the campus,
a sort of amphitheater buildings facing him about one hundred
to two hundred yards away. He was addressing a crowd
that looked to be up to a couple of thousand strong.
He had been handing out baseball caps, smiling with the crowd,
talking to those who had come to eagerly see him

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and listen to his words.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
And then in video.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
We have seen but are not showing for very obvious reasons.
You hear as after Charlie Kirk sits down behind a
underneath that small tent, you hear a single shot ring out.
It appears to be from some sort of high powered rifle,
clearly shot from a distance, and then, in one particularly

(08:14):
gruesome video, you can see the bullet strike Charlie Kirk.
It appears to hit him directly in the neck. You
see a gush of blood, and then obviously, as you
can imagine, the crowd running in every direction, absolutely terrified.
We have seen pictures of Charlie Kirk then being carried

(08:36):
away by people to be who appear to be security guards,
not in uniform. There are obviously going to be questions
about the security that was in place there, But this was,
as Jason Chafitz was saying, who was there on scene,
an outdoor event in a conservative part of a conservative state.
It's a very crime free city. Rum I know it

(09:00):
well personally from family connections there, and nobody expected anything
like this. It is a dreadful scene there. Now the
shooter appears to still be on the run at this point.
Somebody was taken into custody earlier we saw that on

(09:20):
video appeared to be a more elderly gentleman. As we
understand it, Dana, that man has now been released from
custody and had nothing whatsoever to do with the shooting.
So there is obviously very much now an urgent man
hunt underway to find whoever carried out this shooting. And
from the way it played out, the way it was

(09:42):
set up, Dana, you have to think that this was
very much planned and carried out by somebody very familiar
with and competent with the use of a high powered rifle.
The ultimate outcome of all of it this Charlie Kirk
dead at thirty one.

Speaker 7 (10:03):
Dana, thank you.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
I want to pause for a second because as we
saw the video everybody, I got to be honest.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
With you guys, we were.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
This is going to be so hard to get through,
to be honest, and I'm trying my very best. As
we were kind of preparing for this episode, not this episode,
we were preparing to talk about the young lady out
of Charlotte, North Carolina, which is only about an hour
and thirty minutes from us here we are located in
upstate South Carolina, and the past few days since our

(10:37):
last episode, it's just been wagh and very heavy on
me about this girl that was stabbed to death brutally
by this blackmail on a tram bus or a tramcar
in Charlotte. She had fled Ukraine from a war zone,
which obviously, coming to America, you're thinking, hey, you know what,

(11:00):
you know, you're gonna be safer in America.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
You're going to a nice, beautiful city.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Charlotte is a beautiful city, been there many times, used
to work in and out of Charlotte, and you know,
but also Charlotte is a what they, I guess like
to refer to as a sanctuary city. They have a
lot of Democrat policies, a lot of Democrat prosecutors and mayors,
you know, very much like we see in cities like
Los Angeles, in Chicago and New York. I'm sure what

(11:26):
you're about to really see in New York if this
new mayor is elected in New York City, New York
City will go completely chaos, is what's going to happen
if this guy gets in. But as we were preparing
for this, I the past couple of days has just
been weighing heavily mentally on me.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Trying to get through this.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Sorry, but yes, it's been weigh in pretty heavily just
the state, the state of this country. What's going on? Like,
how can we fix this? Obviously as something for us.
We've done this for so long. It's you know, there's
definitely episodes and subjects that we do that way more heavily,

(12:14):
I guess than others. But this young girl being stabbed
for no reason whatsoever, as an innocent.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
She went from living in a bomb shelter basically in
Ukraine and finally became a refugee of America where she
thought she was going to be safe. And you know,
like her parents said, she loved America because Ukraine even
offered to help send her body back to Ukraine and
they said, no, we want her to be buried in
America because she loved America. And it's just so devastating.

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And I think too, you know, the graphic images, you know,
those pictures don't go away after you watch the videos,
just like with Charlie today, that does not go away
from your brain. Once it's installed in your brain, it's there,
and that's all you think about and dream about, you know.
Chat and I we're talking the other night. We had
some crazy dreams lately, just because of all the pure

(13:06):
evil in this world now, you know, and a lot
of it is political, A lot of it is not political.
A lot of it is just people I think have
no souls.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, they're evil, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
And it's like, you know, obviously the Left that they
with this, with this lady from the Ukraine that was
stabbed rutally on this tram in Charlotte. You know, all
the Left wants to say is that, oh, he was
mentally deranged. So there's like a get out of jail
free card, which is obviously what has happened to this
guy forever. He had fourteen other arrest This guy literally

(13:37):
even called nine to one multiple times and it was
almost like, yeah, it was almost like he was calling
and reaching out for help two nine one one. And
you know, at this point, I don't give a shit, guys,
I'm going to say something that you know, out of
anger probably, But you know, when we talked about people
that are mentally ill, supposedly this guy was mentally ill
to the point where you're sitting there on a bus

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and you see a white girl in front of you, which,
by the way, after the fact, he said, oh, I
got me a white girl a couple of times and
then you stab her brutally for.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Her to die alone where no one is helping her.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
There are three gentlemen sitting behind her and a woman
to her left, and they just stayed on their phones
like nothing happened.

Speaker 5 (14:19):
You know.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
She had to make out some kind of you know something,
they had to hear something, they had to see something,
but they just sat there and actually one man walked
past her. Well of course they didn't even do anything,
because this is she literally died alone.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
So this is the state of our of our world.
So getting on to Charlie Kirk. We were setting this episode,
this this episode we were supposed to do tonight about
this Charlotte murder, this brutal murder of this innocent young lady,
and then we see Charlie Kirk being shot. And we
watched some of the very graphic videos and there is

(14:55):
one in particular that is is so graphic. I will
say that, you know, people question whether it was Ai.

Speaker 4 (15:02):
Yeah, and I don't think it was.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
And I'll be honest, you know, I was already kind
of leading into what we were supposed to do tonight.
I was already mentally just kind of drained, and and
I was thinking to myself, like, how am I going
to get through this episode and do it the right way?
How am I how am I not going to blame
people that shouldn't be blamed? Or or how am I
going to blame the people that should be blamed? You know,
you think about both those things, and then and then

(15:26):
the Charlie Kirk thing happens, and you know, whereas Charlie
Kirk is a life that now has lost, a life
that he worked so hard for the message that he portrayed.
And I listen, I'll be honest, I didn't agree with
every single thing that Charlie Crook Cook stood Charlie Kirk. See,
I can't even think straight. I don't agree with everything

(15:46):
that Charlie Kirk said in every way, shape or form.
I don't think any of us always agree with everyone.
But when I saw what happened today, it was it
was more than just a life lost and a father lost,
a young father at that he's thirty one years old.
He had kids, he has a beautiful wife, and they

(16:09):
were all at the event.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
You know, there were.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Kids today that lost a father, There was a wife
that lost a husband, and there was a nation that
lost a messenger. There was a nation that lost someone
that was very, very monumental and instrumental in the very
reason why I still believe that America was saved in
twenty twenty four, although I don't necessarily always agree with

(16:32):
everything Trump is doing. But imagine what America would be
today had twenty twenty four not worked out like it did.
And imagine if Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA and
all of his campaigning and everything that he did four
Conservatives and for Christians across the country, if he would
not have been around to do those things. Number One,

(16:53):
we as a country right now would be in a
very very different position. And although this is a very
somber day, what the left doesn't understand or whoever this
is that committed this heinous assassination on Charlie Kirk, You know,
you can assassinate voices, and God himself says that as
you speak out, as you declare my name, as you

(17:17):
proclaim my name, as you go out and worship and
witness to people, you are going to be attacked. You
were going to be persecuted, just like I was, Just
like I literally died on the cross because I came
and said that I am Jesus, I am the Son
of God. And you, as you go out and witness,
as you go out and speak up as you go
out against evil, as good God already declares, He already says,

(17:41):
be prepared. You will be attacked, but don't worry, because
you will be with me regardless at the end of
the day.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
And Charlie Kirk believed that.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
He believed that as he went out and as he preached,
and I don't say preached, but as he talked and
communicated with our youth that desperately needs some direction other
than the direction they getting from the college campuses, from
mainstream media, from everywhere that they turn, including their parents.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
In a lot of cases, you probably can't.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Imagine likely how many people that Charlie Kirk changed their minds,
change their hearts, change their entire path in life. You
probably can't imagine how much good he actually did, even
for some of the people that were the worst types
of people that you would hear come to the microphone
when he was to debate. And I can't even tell
you how many times that Charlie kirked right then and there,

(18:30):
within a minute or two, can almost change their mind.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
About how they thought about what they thought about.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
And so Whereas what most people don't understand is that
you can kill a person in a voice. But all
this is going to do is make more people like
Charlie Kirk rise up. And there's going to be more
people that stand in the face of danger, in the
face of assassination, that stand in the face of fear,

(18:57):
just like Charlie Kirk did. And I think that if anything,
if if we can honor Charlie and Charlie's legacy and
and everything that he was and was about, now's the
time that we don't back down. Now's the time that
we don't fear our enemies. Uh, And now's the time
that we take up what we need to take up

(19:18):
to make sure that the message that Charlie Kirk portrayed
continues on and even stronger.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
We got to get louder.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
We have to be braver, we have to be all
the things that Charlie Kirk preached about continuously. And if
you don't say that he was brave, you don't go
to a place like this knowing that anyone in this
crowd could shoot you and kill you at any freaking time,
and especially with how many people disagree with you on
a regular basis.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
So and that's just what's so disgusting is during this
whole thing these few hours that we've been dealing with.
First when he got shot. You know, you see on
x all these people that are basically laughing at it
and saying they finally got the right shooter. Are, you know,
just terrible things that why would you do that? Like

(20:04):
why do people even you know, and I know there's
a lot of trolls out there that just want to
be crazy, that's crazy or whatever, but reality, this is
a human life that was just taken for no reason.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I had posted a video of the of the suspect
we believed was the suspect at the time, which was
this older man, had law enforcement surrounding him. They had
him handcuffed on his knees, and this was shortly after
the shooting. And I I can't even fathom how many
people on the comments. This video is already almost at
seven hundred thousand views on our Instagram, but there was

(20:38):
so many people that were saying, oh wow, finally you know,
finally they got him, or thank God for that shooter,
or I mean, there were so many comments that were
just heinous and absolute insanity, and this is the problem
with our country.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Yeah, but let me just talk about the shooter for
a minute, why I feel like he was arrested or
detained in the beginning because I watch a video of
when they were making the initial arrest, and he told
the officers that he shot them. He shot him. He
said that, and he was people were yelling at him
in the crowd, and he was saying, f you, f

(21:14):
you shoot me now, shoot me now. So I think
he was a little bit often in the head anyways.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
So what that makes me think is that he was
a diversion.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
I don't know, but he was. He claimed to be
the one that shot him.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
But now it's but now it comes out that he
is definitely not the person. So if that's true, Yeah,
I saw the video myself that he was saying that.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yes, okay, and he was yelling out to everybody, f
you just shoot me right now, shoot me right now.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
So if this guy was obviously saying this, he was
he was kind of being wild and out there and
causing a disturbance in the crowd or right after this happened,
that makes me think that he was put there on
purpose as a disturbance as someone that when this happened, yeah,
law enforcement was going to look onto this guy. And
then whoever shot Charlie Kirk was able to get away.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, because obviously this guy was in the crowd, and
whoever shot Charlie Kirk was on top of the building.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Yeah, they think that the shooter of Charlie Kirk was
on a building at least two hundred yards away. Obviously
a great shot, because I mean, if you see the video,
that is a kill shot. They still as of right now,
do not have a suspect and custody. But I want
to just go ahead and listen to a little more
of Fox News reporting as we're talking.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
Here, Jonathan, and so we cover a lot of events
here and many of them don't touch us personally, but
this one does. Charlie was a giant human, especially to me,
one of the tallest people I've ever been around, but
a huge heart and what an impact. And Kennedy and
I just saw earlier in the green room. You know,

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he was born in nineteen ninety three, and you have
to take with your our age. You think about that
and like the impact that this young man had and
the shooting is a watershed moment for our country, and
I believe, and I think my colleagues here will agree
Venetian needs a circuit breaker. This is unacceptable. It's so tragic,

(23:08):
and he touched a lot of people, in a lot
of people's hearts. You're going to hear a lot about
more about that in the next hour and in the
coming hours here on Fox News. His first television hit,
Greg Rutfeld, was Fox and Friends twenty twelve, believe it
or not. So we've known the young man for a
long time, and may he rest in peace.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
Yeah, I've known him for probably ten years.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
I mean, it's hard to.

Speaker 9 (23:36):
Gather your thoughts beyond just horror, so I'm so instead.
I mean, you know, Charlie was such a force of nature.
He was brilliant, and he was funny. But what scared
people was this persuasiveness. The only way to take him down,
because he could persuade you so.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
Strongly, was to kill him.

Speaker 9 (23:58):
You know, in the shock and despair that we are feeling,
and I mean we as I'm shared by everyone at
home and around this table and in this building, it's
a testament to the impact of Charlie's friendship and his
bravery and his character.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
And it's so deep a wound that we all feel.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
It's because it feels like he's one of us. He's
part of us because he was such genuinely a patriot
and a great person. So how do you work through
this stuff? You know, it's not about him or me,
it's us, the viewers. You are us. What do we do?

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Well?

Speaker 7 (24:38):
You still do what you always do, but you do
more of it.

Speaker 9 (24:41):
You stand up, you speak up, and you share the risk.
Right now you are recoiling, but you have to come
back and return stronger, more fortified, and more resilient.

Speaker 7 (24:53):
What is.

Speaker 9 (24:55):
Ironic, fittingly, I guess, is that this is a turning point.
You know, if you believe in Charlie, you got to
believe in yourself because.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
He believed in you. You know, this isn't over. This
is the beginning.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
And Charlie's power just got released in all of us.

Speaker 7 (25:10):
He's going to be bigger.

Speaker 9 (25:11):
Now than he ever was in this chaotic planet. He
made us all bigger. So I think that if you're
at home and you're feeling bad, don't just get through
it and remember that he would want you to get
stronger and not back down.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Jesse, before I go to you, Trump, the President Trump
has announced that the flags will fly at half mass
for Charlie Kirk until Sunday evening at six pm. I
know you knew him well too.

Speaker 10 (25:43):
Yeah, we're sick, We're said, we're angry, and we're resolute,
and we're going to avenge Charlie's death in the way
Charlie would want it to be avenged.

Speaker 7 (25:53):
He was such a beautiful boy.

Speaker 10 (25:56):
He was an American boy, and he was incredibly positive.
He was full of energy and life, and he made
politics fun. You see it at his events when things
blow up and the music plays, and we haven't had
that in a very long time in this country. Every

(26:18):
time he did a hit on my show, he would
text me afterwards, thank you, Jesse, I really appreciate having
you on.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
And my daughter loved him.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I mean, she's thirteen years old.

Speaker 10 (26:29):
This is a man who touched an entire generation of
Americans and electrified them and made them patriots. And this
is not a controversial person. This is not a polarizing guy,
a divisive person, a fire brand that he's being described
as in the media. This is like a guy that

(26:51):
you have a barbecue with at your summer house. This
is the kind of guy if you came back with
your daughter, you'd say thank God, we got a good one.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
He's a great.

Speaker 10 (27:02):
Athlete, he's a great person, he's a great Christian. You
see his family out there. He had his kids not
facing the photos because he wanted to protect them, because
he knew how evil people were. So when he goes
out to these college campuses, he's not provoking anybody.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
He's like Socrates.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
He asks questions and he does.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
It with a smile.

Speaker 10 (27:25):
And there's nothing controversial about saying socialism is worse than capitalism.
Men and women are different.

Speaker 7 (27:32):
Let's put America.

Speaker 10 (27:33):
First, because that's all he was about, putting America first.
And as Greg said, this hits differently because Charlie was
one of us and Trump gets hit in the ear.
Charlie gets shot dead. They came after Kavanaugh with a
rifle to his neighborhood. They went after Musk's cars. They

(27:57):
just shot two Jews outside the embassy.

Speaker 7 (28:00):
Think about it.

Speaker 10 (28:01):
Scalice got shot, barely survived.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
It's happening.

Speaker 10 (28:05):
We've got transhooters, we got riots and la They are
at war with us. Whether we want to accept it
or not, they are at war with us.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
What are we going to do about it?

Speaker 10 (28:17):
How much political violence are we going to tolerate. And
that's the question we're just going to have to ask ourselves.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Now.

Speaker 10 (28:24):
Charlie would want us to put as much pressure on
these people as possible. Dana nailed it. This is unacceptable
and has to stop, and it has to stop now.
And everybody's accountable. And we're watching what they're saying on
television and who's saying what the politicians, the media and

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all these rats out there.

Speaker 7 (28:48):
This can never happen again.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
It ends now.

Speaker 10 (28:51):
Greg's right again, this is a turning point and we
know which direction we're going.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
And that was well spoken by everyone on the five
on Fox News. Obviously there's a lot here to be said.
I think Jesse's right. We are in war, unfortunately, and
we have been wondering when this war was actually going
to be on our doorstep, and I think it's here.
I mean, I've never been the person on this show

(29:18):
to say or or to incite, or to to even
condone or encourage war, right, and and That's not what
I'm going to do in this occasion either, But at
what point in time does it come that people do
stand up and how right? I mean, I think there's

(29:39):
so many people in this country right now after this
that are wondering how right and and there are right
ways to go about this and wrong ways. Number One,
as I've already said, it's not to be silent. It's
not to sit around and not say anything. It's not
to not speak out. It's not to be loud or
or or it's not to not be loud. This is

(30:00):
a moment that we have to pivot. We have to
bring what Charlie talked about and what he preached about
and what he said on college campuses on a regular basis.
We have to do our part in spreading that same
message because guys, we are fighting evil, There's no question.
And I'm not saying that everyone on the left is evil.
I'm not saying all Blacks are evil, or all Mexicans

(30:23):
are evil, or all illegals are evil, or all anybody's evil.
But we I think part of the problem is kind
of similar to how when we went to Afghanistan and
when we went to Iraq, and especially if you talk
to any service member that went to Afghanistan, and one
of the hardest things for them was identifying the enemy,

(30:43):
Like how do we identify the enemy, because like a
typical war for example, like in World War Two, in
World War One and Vietnam and all this stuff. You know,
you would have soldiers from the other side that wore uniforms,
they were obviously identified.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
You knew who to shoot, you knew who.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Not to shoot, You knew who your friendlies were, and
you knew who your enemies were. And you know, there's
one thing that my buddy has always talked about. He
was in Afghanistan twice, Iraq once, and he always said,
we just never knew who our enemy was and.

Speaker 4 (31:15):
Which was Yeah, and it could be a nine year
old boy hiding a shotgun underneath his clothes, or AK.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Forty seven or a ID. I mean even for example,
in Afghanistan, there were nine and ten and eleven and
twelve year olds that were the ones going out and
planting the IDs. There were suicide bombers that were eleven
and twelve years old that would walk up to soldiers
in Afghanistan and then blow themselves up, obviously at the
direction of ISIS and whoever their leaders were. But we're
in a battle right now in some ways with an

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unseen enemy, and that is their biggest strength.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Well their strength is we don't know who they are.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
And I remember when nine to eleven happened, and you know,
we did accuse a lot of Islamic terrorists of committing
these horrific acts on Americans. But after the time, you know,
everyone was talking about these terrast cells and nobody knows
who they are, or what they are or where they are.
And it's kind of the same thing. They don't just

(32:11):
like stick out with a red uniform on where you say, oh,
that's the bad guy. You don't know they're walking among you.
And that's what's so scary with what's going on with
political violence in today's world is you can be walking
side by side with somebody and have no idea what
their intentions are. And I think also that the media

(32:32):
plays a huge role in political violence. You know, it
goes back to even when they were they were saying
that Trump was like Hitler or you know, it makes
people believe the things they say. And just like a
headline that I just saw an X not too long
ago from MSNBC, I always have to say it slow
because I'm dyslexic, and I always say it wrong. It

(32:54):
could have been a Charlie Kirk fan shooting in celebration
that's their first remark. Yeah, I mean, these kind of
things are nonsense, and you should not be blaming a
fan of celebrating and shooting on accident. No, he was
shot on the neck, in the neck on purpose. It
was not a fan.

Speaker 11 (33:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
And this was MSNBC reporting this.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
I mean I literally thirty minutes after this initial report
came out, they were saying, oh, this might be a
Charlie Kirk fan that was celebratory shooting at something he said,
which is absolute bashit crazy. Let me tell you when
Charlie Kirk actually got shot, he was asked a question
about trans shooters, and he had responded to that question

(33:34):
and then the very next thing he said he had
said something about gang violence or something, and that was
when he was shot.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
But of course MSNBC wants.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
To put out some stupid bullshit about saying, oh, yeah,
this might have been a celebratory shot from one of
Charlie Kirk's on fans. This is the evil media that
Trump has talked about for a very long time, the
fake news, because that's what they are. They are funded
and prioritized by the globalist, by the elites.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
One hundred.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I do think, and I'll say it right now, regardless
what of my things. I mean, there's a lot of
Israeli influence in our media in the United States of America.
On a lot of the media is owned by and
connected to in some ways Israel.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
But I do want to play this.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
This was a piece from MSNBC also to where this
was their thoughts. This is what they thought that the
Trump administration would do and how they would use Charlie
Kirk's death.

Speaker 12 (34:27):
Listen, as we were just talking about a moment ago
with Alan after one of the DOGE employees was allegedly attacked.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
In Washington, d C.

Speaker 12 (34:41):
That's what Donald Trump used as a justification to send
in federal troops into Washington, d C. To get things
under control the carjacking situation.

Speaker 7 (34:50):
He used that. And I know it's hard to predict.

Speaker 12 (34:54):
The future, Mark, but you can imagine the administration using
this as a justification for something.

Speaker 10 (35:01):
I mostly, I mean, I'm at a loss to guess
as to what happens next.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
But Kirk, Yeah, of course that they want to bring
that in, right and listen, any tragedy the government's going
to use, I mean, so to their benefit. What they're
saying here, I'm not necessarily saying that's not true. But
also at the same time, when you have speakers as

(35:25):
nice and as cordial and as Charlie Kirk, as Charlie
Kirk was, you know, it's just like Jesse Kirk's or
Jesse Kirk got mighty. I'm trying to think straight.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
It's just like Jesse Waters said. You know, if your
daughter brought home Charlie Kirk, you'd be like, oh, thank God,
she has a good guy. And I agree with that
one hundred percent, you know, but what the media wants
you to think is like, no, you know what, your
daughter would be much better off bringing home some gang
member from an inner city that has just committed eighteen
freaking crimes in the past week. Because they're the good people.

(35:59):
They're the people that we're gonna protect on mainstream media.
But all these people talking about Christianity and God and
doing the right thing and the conservative values of America
and just American values in general, those are the people
that you have to be worried about. Those are the
bad people. Those are the people that we should be attacking.
And mainstream media is as much at fault and to

(36:21):
blame for this. Charlie Kirk assassination as they are to
blame for this white girl being killed on a freaking
Charlotte tram bus by a black male. Period. And you
know he can say whatever the hell he wants to about, Oh,
I'm crazy, I'm schizophrenic. Yet while he has blood dripping

(36:41):
from him and she's dying in the seat just below
her alone by the way, he's walking down the aisle saying,
I got me a white girl, got me a white girl.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Kind of reminds me of Samantha Josephin in.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
South Carolina at University of South Carolina campus with Nathan
rolling was that his name Nataniel Rowland, and you know
he was always he was. He was putting in text
messages to some of his buddies about a white bunny.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
And all this star target.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Yeah, it was a target.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
He was targeting a white girl and he did, and
he murdered her. He pretended like he was a uber driver.
He got her into a car when she was inebriated,
as obviously in most college campuses at one and two
in the morning, you will have girls that call an uber. Obviously,
he picked up on that. He got this girl in
his car. He had the child locks she couldn't get
out of the car, and then he murders her brutally

(37:33):
and then throws her off into a field some I
don't know, fifty miles away.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
From where he actually committed to murder.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
We are at a battle with good and evil guys,
and I'm telling you, Jesus and God would not want
us to stand down. And we're not gonna stand down.
We're not going to. I'm not going to, you know,
I'm not gonna quit speaking. I'm not gonna quit standing up.
I do think for sure that like when you have

(38:02):
people like Charlie Kirk, Nick Fuintes, whoever it is, Alex Jones,
just name the commentator named the influencer, name whoever it is,
especially anyone on the right, Louder with Crowder Louder Crowd
or yes, Stephen Crowder or Timpoole or even us. If
we went to a mainstream event to where we're like, hey,
we're going to go speak at this event, which is

(38:24):
you know, completely honest. We've thought about, like you know,
especially some of our number one most listened to cities,
we have thought about setting up events in somebody these
places like Los Angeles, for example, that's one of our
number one cities that are cities in Texas and whatever.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
New York City is also another big city for us.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
But there's so much evil out.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
There, and so I've always I've always thought it's like,
I don't know that's a good idea. I mean, I
don't know if it's a good idea to where we
just give the public access to us and we announce, hey,
here's where we're going to be, here's how you can
access this, and ask us questions.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Charlie did this on a regular basis, and I'm just
I am blown away. I guess.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I guess the thing for me is like I'm blown
away how there wasn't more security, how they didn't figure
out a way to protect Charlie better. I know he's
not a president of the United States or whatever, but he's.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
A huge figure, and I think if it weren't for him,
I don't know, honestly, if Trump would be president right now.
He campaigned for him day and night, and he got
a lot of the youth, a lot of the young
people to go out and vote and make them understand
what our values of America should be and what we
should stand for. I mean, he was working twenty four

(39:36):
to seven for Trump to get him in office because
he knew what our world would look like if the
other team came in office.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
I'm We're probably gonna get Nathan Jones on the phone
in just a second.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
One second.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Well, let's listen to.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Let's listen to some more of this, and then we'll
get Nathan Jones on the line. He is from this area,
so we as soon as we get him on, we'll
bring Nathan back on. He is the founder of Clear.
He also knows a lot of people in the government,
kind of everybody's connected everything. He obviously had some people
I believe that he knew that was at this event.
We'll get his take on this as well. But let's
listen to some more of the.

Speaker 6 (40:17):
Five turning point views so appropriately there. This is also
in Joe Biden has posted on access statement. He said,
there's no place in our country for this kind of violence.
That must end now. Jill and I are praying for
Charlie Kirk's family and loved ones. Sure to have many
more of these statements to come through. Harold, you also
knew Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 13 (40:38):
I met Charlie a few times. First off, my condolences
in prayers to his family. This is a young dad,
the kind of pain that his wife has to be experiencing,
and she is channeling her own kids. She should know
she'll be lifted in my family's prayers tonight. You all
have said it. This is horrifying. It's profoundly sad. A

(41:02):
thirty one, thirty two year old young man. I know
he's born in nineteen ninety three. I don't know his
exact birthday, but he'd been thirty two this year if
he wasn't already. I don't know all the details about
the shooter or any of those things. I'm sure we
will learn, and rightly learn, but our infatuation with our

(41:23):
own politics and our own ideas causes us, I think,
to drown in these thoughts and these justifications. I've read
some things and seen some things that people have said
today who have talked about Charlie's politics in a way
that it sounds as if they are trying to bring
some understanding or justification for this. There's no justification for this.

(41:49):
Charlie and I didn't agree on a lot of politics,
A lot of the paths to solve political problems, but
I viewed his thoughts and ideas as ways to try
to help make my thoughts and ideas better.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
Politics at its best is that.

Speaker 13 (42:04):
We're gonna hear a lot over the coming days on
on both sides, those who adored Charlie and his politics,
those who did not like Charlie did not like his politics.
But there's there's no place in our country. There's no
place if you love America, if you love freedom, if
you indeed want to make America, whatever side you sit on,
democratic Republic and the greatest nation in the world and

(42:26):
believe it is, you can't in any way defend this
or justify this close.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
Where I started my thought.

Speaker 13 (42:34):
I don't know Erica, but my thoughts and prayers to
her into those to his daughter and to his son.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
All right, guys, so we're going to bring on Nathan Jones. Now,
Nathan Jones obviously is he is has been a longtime
friend of us and to the show. Nathan is the
founder of Clear x l e a r. It is
the nasal spray company, and they were actually sued by
the FDC. Went through a lot of battles. Actually, Nathan

(43:02):
went through a lot of battles with the FTC and
we had talked about this with Nathan many many times
on the show, and Nathan, we've brought you on on
this show on many occasions. I know this has happened
close to where you actually live at Utah Valley University.
Can you just give me your initial thoughts on Charlie

(43:22):
Kirk that they now say is dead.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Well, this is devastating, I think, you know, I think
everybody agrees with that. I was sitting in my office,
you know, two exits down the freeway from where this happened.
And you know, I've met Charlie Kirk. I met him
the Turning Point USA when it was down in Arizona,
Phoenix and my children of many and you know, he's

(43:45):
a very nice guy, very you know, you hear the
word courageous thrown around a lot, but he kind of was.
And you can look at his actions and you can
understand that, you know, he stood up to people that
he you know, and whether or not you agree that
he's right or wrong, you have to agree that he
did stand up and spoke his mind for what he was,

(44:07):
he believed, and for his convictions and taking the time
to go around to the to the different schools that
he's done this, and and you know, and have friendly
debates with people. And if you ever watch any of
these videos where he's doing that, anytime it starts to
get really emotional, where people are getting aggravated, and he

(44:30):
actually does a very good job of dialing down the
temperature because you know, that's that's what he does, and
he wants people to have. He wanted people to have civil,
collegial debates about the differences that we have. And that's
about as Christian as you can get. Yeah, you know,
don't get into fights, don't get into arguments, but have

(44:52):
a discussion until you can come to an agreement. And
it may be that we never ever come to an agreement.
And you know, we all have differences, and it may
be that we never ever come to an agreement. But
you can't just go out and shoot someone. And you
can't just go out, I mean and sue people and
harm people and go after people just because they think
differently than you.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, and as you said, I mean, you know, I
think that's what college used to be about, you know,
I mean, there used to be debate clubs in college
to where people would debate their differences and you know,
then you have to you have to bring in now
people like Charlie Kirk that because of universities has went
so far left to where everybody, not everybody, but most
people that are coming out of these collegiate campuses they

(45:35):
are being turned far left ideology. It was something that
Alex Jones actually the other day was saying when his
daughter came to him and said, Hey, Dad, I want
to go to university, and I think she was going
to go to Austin.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
And although he was in his.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Mind thinking, uh, yeah, that's probably not a good idea whatsoever,
but he's like, this is the best money I'm ever
going to pay to you, because once you go here,
you're going to realize what they're doing. This, this is
an ideological scheme which is what college has become. And
the only barrier, the only fighting force against that ideology

(46:09):
that is being produced in college campuses across the country
has been people like Charlie Kirk. There has been others
before him, but there's been no one more successful than
Charlie Kirk and getting the youth and and getting the
college kids to just think maybe a little differently. Including
we were saying this earlier in the podcast, there were

(46:29):
people that would come up and speak on the microphone
that was completely opposite of any of Charlie's beliefs. But
yet you could tell by the end of that conversation
even they were thinking, shit, maybe I'm not thinking correctly,
Maybe I need to think about something a little differently.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
And hang on, you just said so, you just pointed
something out that Charlie Kirk invited people that disagreed with
him to come up and speak in the microphone. Yeah, okay, let.

Speaker 7 (46:56):
Me give you.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
Let me give you a leftist And this is from
my own personal family. And I think I mentioned this
to you. But in July, so two months ago, we
were at a family reunion. And I come from a
very large family fourteen siblings, okay, and so we're there,
my parents are there, a lot of in laws are there,

(47:17):
a lot of my nieces and nephews, and you know,
everybody's there. There's there's you know, a lot of people there,
and you know, we would have discussions and my family
politically is kind of split across the whole spectrum. I mean,
you have people I believe that I'm a centrist. I'm
very much I you know, I mean to the right,
but I'm very much as centrist. I have I have

(47:42):
nephews who who have had their stuff cut off, and
they think they're females. I have his mom, who taught
at Yale University, and you know, they're about as liberal
as you can possibly get. They're in fact, they're not
even liberal. They're leftists, and they're about as leftist as
you can get. You know, they demand that you call them,

(48:02):
you know, she instead of key and some other name
that is that is not you know, CJ his name.
And you also have other ones that are much further
right than me. And I think you've talked with some
of my siblings who are even further right than I am,
much further right, and so you have this broad spectrum.
And after we were finished with our reunion, my oldest

(48:25):
sister actually posted on her Facebook or Instagram, one of
her social media pages something along the lines of, you know,
I just finished a big family reunion, and what I've
learned is that people, if they don't have at least
a master's or a PhD, they shouldn't be allowed to talk.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (48:43):
Yeah, because they're not educated and they don't know anything
about what's going on in the world around them, and
so they shouldn't even be allowed to talk and give
input until they have at least a master's or a PhD.
And the irony of that, because that's an incredibly leftist
you know, sensor anybody that we don't agree with, uh,
you know, because we're smarter than them. But that actually

(49:06):
angered a number of my siblings and we had to
kind of have a little powow about it. But but yeah,
it's it's it's just insane that this leftist, these these
leftists are are causing harm. I mean, you know, you
saw me and the other day that said, you know,
get rid of the leftists, and uh, you know, take

(49:26):
the guns away from the leftist that's what it was,
and eighty percent of the shootings would go away. Mm hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
I think Donald Trump himself said we need to get
the guns out of the transsect or trans what do
you call them?

Speaker 2 (49:40):
The trans people saying yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean, although I don't necessarily one hundred percent agree
with that either, based on whatever. I mean, you know,
Second Amendment, second Amendment. But I do want to talk Nathan,
because you do live in this area. I want to
kind of break this down just I went to college there,
so you went to college at this university?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Now is Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:00):
The first thing I ask you earlier was why are
they not having checkpoints or something at these universities When
Charlie Kirk comes to speak, like is this can.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
You like get campus? Is that campus is so wide open?
I don't think. I mean, it's a beautiful day. I
don't know if they originally plan on having it inside,
but most of the ones that I've seen where he's
on TV. You know. In fact, I'll tell you I
was supposed to be there because I have a bunch
of friends and they were we were all going to

(50:31):
go there as a group, and they said, hey, Nate,
because I you know, i've met him and I have
friends that are in common with with Charlie Kirk, and
I just said, hey, you know, if you won't want
to go, let me let me find out. Then I
called up one of my friends and I said, hey,
are these things better on TV or are they better live?
And he goes, They're better on TV because you get
to watch all of it, and when you're there live,
it's just a bunch of noise and you have to

(50:52):
push yourself all the way to the front to try
to hear it. So I just said, I'm not gonna go.
I'm gonna I'm gonna sit at home and watch it.
So that's why I wasn't there.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
But you did have friends there today, did you?

Speaker 5 (51:04):
I had. I had a number of people that I
know were there. And you know, when they first started
texting people and doing this, I was like, there's no way,
there's no way. Yeah, it's it's insane. I can't believe it.
But the university is so open that if he wanted
to have something outside, there's no way that you're going
to be able to make that a secure place. And

(51:26):
the ones that he's done if you go and watch
the uh, the ones that he's done in the past
where he goes out, he always sits out under a canopy,
out in the public. Yeah, you know, to be part
of it. I mean, once you start having these high
secure events, you're separating yourself from the public.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
Yeah, I mean that's true, but that is also the
biggest risk.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
And we were also discussing that he could have, you know,
at least been wearing a bullet proof vest. But I
don't think that would have helped.

Speaker 5 (51:58):
It wouldn't have helped, yeah for sure.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
So we know, so this campus, this is not BYU,
This is Utah Valley University, right, yeah, so this is
the biggest college campus in Utah.

Speaker 5 (52:15):
Well, I mean my biggest, not not in space, but
in people. It's the largest university in the state of Utah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
And so obviously he set this up. He was going
here is this. Keep in mind, also, Nathan, we now
know that the original shooter that we thought was the shooter,
this older guy, is not actually the shooter. They still
do not have a suspect in custody. They're saying that
this shot was likely taken from two hundred yards away,
probably from a rooftop. And the funny thing that we

(52:44):
were saying earlier too, Sherry was talking about she saw
a video to where this guy that they actually apprehended
that I posted on Instagram, which we thought was the
shooter originally, was out there saying yeah, I shot him,
I shot him, you know I did this.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
Yeah, you kill me now, And he was saying f
you to everybody yelling out because everybody was yelling at him,
but he said I shot him, and shoot me now.
Shoot me now and f you. But this is an
elderly gentleman. And I don't know if you saw Nathan
on your local news, but they were interviewing video. Did
you see them interviewing his friends as well, saying there
is no way this is the guy. They better retrack

(53:21):
what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Yeah, but what I thought, Nathan was this guy was
there as a distraction. So once the shooter happened, if
this guy started yelling out stuff, you know, was he
the distraction enough to get police to zone in and
hone in on him to where the actual shooter could
get away?

Speaker 5 (53:39):
Well? Have they found where the actual shooter was?

Speaker 3 (53:42):
No, we don't know.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
I mean, I'm I'm thinking through my head and I
could be wrong because I haven't been to that campus
for a little while, but where he was sitting, I
don't know where there would be a roof line two
hundred yards away that they could shoot from. In fact,
there's there's not. There's just not.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
So that leaves the question where it's the shooter and
that awesomely.

Speaker 5 (54:07):
Yeah, I mean at most, at most, I would say,
not even one hundred yards seventy five. I can't I'm
trying and I could be wrong, but I'm trying to
think through where that was. Because the wall behind him
was right outside. They call it the Hall of Flags,
and they just have flags in this hallway from all

(54:28):
of the countries in the world. And then around that
whole building is around that whole courtyard is buildings and
you know, none of them are one hundred yards away.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
That's interesting.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, So either way, we know that the shooter is
still at large, the suspect that they thought was a
shooter is not. But it seems like that may have
been a distraction, you know. And as we were also
talking about earlier, is that Charlie Kirk was huge and
getting Donald Trump elected in twenty twenty four, I mean,
turning point USA and kind of reshape the minds of
our youth.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
This is what Charlie Kirk did best.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
This was kind of our last line of defense for
our youth, because our youth every single day is falling
off the deep end, you know, if you look at
you know, even we've talked a lot about like crime basis,
demographics and so on, and if you want to say, like, well,
what crime is actually being committed, and if you think
about like the black community the black youth actually is

(55:24):
the ones that are committing a lot of bolt crime
right now, the shootings, the carjackings, this is the thing
is big in Chicago, it's spreading throughout other cities. I
don't think this was necessarily someone that was black that
wanted to kill Charlie Kirk. I think it sounds more
like a either idealistic hit from the left or someone
that is higher up that wanted Charlie Kirk and his

(55:47):
messaging john and dead. Who do you think this profile,
this shooter could be. I mean, what do you think
about this?

Speaker 5 (55:56):
I have no idea. I can't even think of someone
who who who would do it? I mean that's I mean, yes,
he supported conservative causes, but he was engaging and friendly.
You know, he wasn't the one going out there and
spewing rhetoric, spewing hate messages. You know, as I point

(56:18):
out earlier, he would invite the other people. He would
invite anybody to disagree with him to come up to
the microphone and talk.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Yeah, this is just a sad day.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
So did you see anything unusual? Like you said, you
were just a couple exits away from this, and I
mean just sitting in your office. What did you see
out the window?

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Nothing.

Speaker 5 (56:38):
In fact, when they first texted me and said, hey,
this is going on, I didn't believe him because I
hadn't heard a single emergency vehicle, not a single one,
until you were on the phone with me, which I
heard yeah in the background. Yeah, I guess, And that
was like fifteen minutes later, twenty minutes later.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:59):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Well, I don't know, Nathan.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
I just wanted to bring you on just to kind
of get your thoughts and opinions on this. We're we're
going to obviously be monitoring the situation here. We're going
to see if they do find someone a suspect and
bring them to justice, whatever that may be. I hope
that justice is not US taxpayer dollars paying for them
for the rest of their life. But you know, we'll

(57:23):
see how it goes. And it's just it's just a
weird thing.

Speaker 5 (57:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
They tried to assassinate Trump they missed. It looks eerly
kind of similar to that, although this time they didn't
miss and it was Charlie Kirk. It was one of
the biggest messengers for the conservative and Christian movement.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
And although I've said.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
It's for the youth. Yeah, and he would go and
talk to the youth. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
And I and I think, you know, the future is
our children, you know, That's what they always say. It's
like that is our future is our kids. And I
think the battle lines are with our children. It is
with our kids. It is why you as parents out
there truly have to be vigilant in all aspects of
your parenting right now. Whether it's your kids are in

(58:05):
middle school or elementary school, or high school, or what
college you're going to send your kids to, all of
those things are very determining factors, at least in my
And I'm not a parent, I mean, I'm a step parent.
But Nathan, I know you are a parent, and I
know I know the way you parent, which is like
which is the way that parents should parent?

Speaker 5 (58:25):
Right?

Speaker 3 (58:26):
And I hope, well yeah, I mean but.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Even you, like you know you as as a father
that of girls. You know, it's like I always hear Nathan,
I'm like, Nathan's a good dad.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
He's trying to raise dog.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
He's not a dog dog, a good dad and he
does not put up with.

Speaker 5 (58:43):
I'm a good dog, good donkey, donkey.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
But you know, but but Nathan, I think that you though,
see that like how much we have to really look
after our kids, especially in twenty twenty five, and I.

Speaker 5 (58:59):
Let my kids, you know, it terrifies me. It gives you,
and it gives me, I don't want to say anxiety,
but it gives me a little bit of anxiety every
time you your kids go do something that when I
was a kid, I just thought nothing of it. You know,
my daughter, my twelve year old, the first part of
this week Monday Tuesday. She just got home today, but

(59:20):
she was at a camp with her school and they're like, yeah,
this is what we're doing. Eas are the game we're playing,
and we're going to go up to the lake and
we're going to make boats and see how much the kids,
how far the kids can float on them. And I'm like, what, what,
You're gonna let my kid in here water? Yeah. Even
though even though I take I take my kids to

(59:41):
the lake all the time. My kids know how to swim,
they know how to stay afloat, they know the water safety,
they know all this stuff, but I have never taught
them how to make a boat. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Well, and and listen, you know, I think it's bigger
than you having to be worried about water. I think
as as a young kids in America today, you know,
just like the Charlotte stabbing that just happened, I think
we all need to be teaching our kids self awareness,
self defense, things that they need to be looking out
for other than their phones or snapchat.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Or In both cases, I don't think there would have
been any kind of self defense.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
No, absolutely, but you could have. You know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
All I'm saying is we have to position ourselves in
every aspect of our life, wherever we go, whatever we
do as a defensive measure, unfortunately well situation aware.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
I think the way to I think the way to
answer that is what you need to protect your children
from is leftist ideology. You can let your kids be liberals,
like Robert Kennedy is a liberal. Okay, my dad is
a liberal. Yeah. I have a couple of siblings that

(01:00:51):
I mentioned that are leftists. And the difference is a
leftist is way beyond a liberal liberal. It's like, hey,
you know what I think that you know, we should
have some kind of healthcare for people that are falling
through the cracks in the system, and a leptis is well,
I'm going to shoot you if we don't all get
free healthcare. Yeah, absolutely a leftist as a president who

(01:01:13):
says I'm going to push through Obamacare because I think
that all of my buddies that are working the insurance industry,
in the hospital management PBOs, I think they all PBM. Sorry,
I think they should all make billions of dollars off
of the tax payer. That's a leftist, not a liberal. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
And we're I mean, we're truly one of the richest
nations in the world, but yet ranked fortieth in healthcare.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
We're not one of the richest. I hate it when
people say that. Well, I mean, well, can you name
me another country that is thirty seven trillion dollars in debt?

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
That's true, but I guess I guess what I should
say there is the most one of the most powerful,
at least countries, and yet we have just an absolute
asinine healthcare system. So where it's like the healthcare system
in a lot of ways screws you more than it
helps you. And I think obviously we saw that during
we saw that during COVID, we saw that during your lawsuit,
we saw that during so many other even RFK right

(01:02:10):
now fighting fighting what he's trying to do take out
the people in the CDC that needs to be taken out,
take out the people in all of the agencies that
need to be gone, which was the result of why
we are in the position we are in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Health wise in America today.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
So last thing, Nathan before we go, because we're gonna
we're gonna break into a little more of this coverage
with Fox News.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
But where do we go from here? Nathan?

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
What?

Speaker 11 (01:02:35):
What?

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Because I'm sure you know, obviously there's people out there
thinking right now, like what do I do?

Speaker 7 (01:02:40):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
What do you do?

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
I hope that this doesn't you know that his life
is not a wasted life. I don't think it is,
because he's already done a lot. But I think he
should motivate more people to stand up and talk about
what they believe in and talk about what they're leafs are.
And again, don't do it in a combative, argumentative way.

(01:03:05):
You don't have to do it like the people with
the PhDs do it. Okay, you don't have to sit
there and demean and say, oh, you shouldn't be able
to talk because I'm smarter than you and I know
better than you. But you know, but be nice, sit
down and discuss it. I mean, one of the greatest
things about our country when you sit there and you
think about how it was founded, is you had people

(01:03:27):
that were completely liberal and you had other people who
were completely conservative, and they went down and sat down
in a little church, not a church, at town Hall.
And if you haven't been to Philadelphia and looked at
this place, it's incredibly small. If you've took and you
go in there, and if you stand there and you
look at this room and figure that there was I

(01:03:48):
can't remember how many there was, but you know, a
couple of hundred I think people in there debating the
Constitute of the Constitution, that the Declaration of Independence and
all of these things. They were doing it in July. Yeah,
it would have been miserable, but yet they understood that
they needed to come together and come to a happy

(01:04:09):
middle ground where we could all get along and you know,
work out our differences. Yeah, we're not foist them on
top of other people and tell people you have to
go get this vaccine, you have to go and do this.
You know it's you know, go out there and do
what you want to do, but and don't impede on

(01:04:30):
other people's righteous liberties. And I think we need to
get back to that, and I think those of us
that feel that way need to be more vocal in it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:39):
And I agree with you.

Speaker 5 (01:04:40):
I think a lot of good.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
I'm obviously gonna say I agree with you both to
an extent. But when you're debating with people that just
want to murder you and don't care to have debates,
they just want to kill you, what is the purpose?

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
Well, hopefully at some point they will see the light,
you know, I mean I don't, I don't know. I
don't know any leftist that believes in a God. Yeah,
and I know a number of leftists, but most of them.
But but I'm saying, all of the ones that I
know are atheists. And you know, so please make sure

(01:05:20):
your kids don't grow up to be atheists. Yeah, even
though one of the most christ like people I know
is also an atheist. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Yeah, And that happens, and that does happen. And like
I said, I think this is a message that you know,
as God said in the beginning, as you go out
and speak and and and be brave, and and you witness,
and you and you worship, or you do the things
that I command you to do, you will also be persecuted.

(01:05:49):
And I think Charlie Kirk was brave in the in
the sense that he understood the risk. He had to
have known the risk. I was literally just telling Cherry this.
I mean, although our podcast is not Charlie Kirk's level,
you know, if we went out and did a public
event somewhere that was, like say, in a city like

(01:06:09):
Los Angeles or some of our biggest cities that listened
to us, that that's just a scary thing to kind
of think about, right, So, you know, it's a scary
thing to let the public in. But I also feel
like that it is our duty to confront and inform
and talk to the public as much as we possibly can,
and I think that's very important.

Speaker 3 (01:06:29):
But Nathan, thank you so much for coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
We definitely appreciate your insight, especially being in that area,
and we'll definitely have you back on very soon.

Speaker 5 (01:06:38):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
All right, that was Nathan Jones with Clear and Nathan's
been on the show many many times. I do want
to break in and see what else Fox News is saying.
Right now, let's listen to a little more of Fox
News coverage here you go.

Speaker 6 (01:06:56):
Free speech lives high in your list of priorities.

Speaker 14 (01:07:00):
Kennedy, absolutely, and you think about all of us go
out there and we want to meet the public. We
want to speak, We want to speak our minds. We
are fortunate enough to have been given a microphone in
this medium to talk about ideas and amplify.

Speaker 15 (01:07:15):
What we believe is right. It is okay to be polarizing.
It is okay to be a lightning rod. It is
okay for people to disagree with you. It is not
okay to take someone's life.

Speaker 16 (01:07:27):
And there are people who have tried to justify what
happened based on the reaction that Charlie Kirk stirred in people.
I will tell you this, as Jesse said, his daughter
love Charlie Kirk. My daughter is a junior in college.
A lot of them only get their news from TikTok,
and they all know who Charlie Kirk is because using

(01:07:51):
the Socratic method, he has confronted the sophistry of socialism
and progressivism on college campuses. That was his life's work,
and they all knew who he was. And as they
shared those videos, many of those young people question their beliefs.
Maybe for the first time in their lives, and it's

(01:08:12):
okay to do that as well. And I hope they
continue to do that, and that his shadow resonates for
generations of people who are able to sit down with
those they disagree with and have a conversation with them
and confront them with the inadequacies of their arguments, hoping
that they come to the side that Charlie Kirk lived

(01:08:35):
and believed was right.

Speaker 6 (01:08:37):
And he did it with good cheer, a happy warrior.
There's one other thing I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
I got to break in just for a second. So
we are now seeing video of what appears to be
a shooter. New visuals have emerged showing what appears to
be an individual on the roof of the Loci Center
at v You University, so that's the Utah Valley University
in the moments before Charlie Kirk was shot. There is

(01:09:06):
a video out there right now that shows this figure
on top of a roof. It looks like he is
in likely black clothes. He is positioned, likely with some
type of rifle on the roof, laying down, just like
a shooter. Yeah, just like a the same type of

(01:09:27):
situation that happened during the Butler Pennsylvania rally with Donald Trump.
This guy is on the roof. He is in black clothing.
He is positioned in a prone position, looking directly towards
where Charlie Kirk was speaking. So this was on a
roof it looks like at least two hundred yards or
one hundred yards away from where Charlie was speaking. This

(01:09:50):
video is just now coming out, so you know, I
go back to this guys, this guy that everyone assumed
was the shooter at probably five minutes after the shooting happened,
where he was screaming some things that made all law
enforcement look to him. They convened on him.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
They arrested this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
They thought they maybe had the shooter until obviously they
were looking through his through his person and they did
not see any weapons.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
So well, even when they arrested him, they're like, guys,
wouldn't even know if he's a shooter. Just back off,
back away. We don't even know what's going on right
here with him, but we're detaining him.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
But this allowed this shooter on the roof to get
away in time, and so this could be a massively
well executed, coordinated hit on Charlie Kirk. Well planned out
to where they even had someone in the crown that
was a you know, a I guess you can say
a distraction. They had someone in the crowd that was

(01:10:51):
a distraction, yelling things, getting law enforcement to look at
this guy and say, hey, here's the guy. We got
to convene on him. And when you have this and
all of the crowd pointing to this guy, guys saying
certain things. Yeah, law enforcement has taking all their attention
to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:11:07):
And then you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Have this guy that just shot able to get off
the roof the same way he probably likely came on,
get out of there, and who knows where the hell
this shooter is right now.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
So I want to read a quote to you, and
I want to see what you think. This is a
quote by Charlie Kirk himself. He says, when discourse ends,
violence begins. All he wanted to do is talk to people,
and you fn leftists murdered him for it. How do
you think about that? When discourse ends, violence begins. So

(01:11:39):
obviously the violence began while he was trying to have discourse.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Well, yes, so the number one thing in our society
is discourse. Right, we should be able to talk to
each other and to suss out our opinions and thoughts.
We should be able to talk them out in a
way that is cordial, in a way that is respectful,
and even if it isn't respect but just non violent,
non killing type motives that you have for your fellow man,

(01:12:08):
you know. And it's the thing that I where I've
been so kind of disturbed in my soul as of
the past year or two. You look at Israel where
Hamas executed twelve hundred people in Israel. That happened, and
then you look at Israel's response, You look at what's
happening between Russia and Ukraine. There are people that are

(01:12:28):
dying on a daily basis by the thousands. That the
same thing is happening in Gaza, the same thing to
happen in Israel, the same thing to happen nine to eleven,
and in Afghanistan and Iraq, and likely is going to
happen in Venezuela. Life is life. Life is very important.
Life is fragile.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
Life is something that we only have once on this earth.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
And depending on what you believe as far as your
spirituality goes or for God, it depends on you know
what the life is after this. I do believe there
is life after this. I one hundred percent believe that
I believe that we go somewhere else. Our energy does
not dissipate. Even if you go to the basic level
of science, they will tell you that energy does not destroy,

(01:13:17):
it does not dissipate. It goes somewhere and gets in
other things. And and my whole deal with this Charlie
Kirk thing is just like I believe Charlie Kirk is
likely in heaven and he's gonna be fighting from up there.
I also believe that his message, his resonance, everything he
stood for, his mission is going to fight harder than

(01:13:42):
he ever could imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
And I'm talking about in mass He's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Gonna fight in mass And this is going to be
a huge thing coming up, guys that I don't I
don't know how the government will respond. That's what we're
gonna wait to see. You know, how will Trump and
the administration respond, How far or will they take it?
You know, I literally am already seeing messages saying that

(01:14:07):
that we should declare martial law based on this, which
is regardless of Charlie Kirk being assassinated.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
No, we should not do that. For this.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
We also have thirty seven minutes ago, Democrats just started
screaming in the House chamber when Representative Lauren Bobert requested
everyone pray for Charlie Kirk. You can even hear Jasmine
Crockett her ghetto screech and Speaker Johnson smacked the gavel
on her. Democrats are vile people. It seems like the
people on the left, they are completely coming out against

(01:14:43):
just for people in Congress to ask for prayers, and
they're screaming on the House floor like they are all
for this. We are in a war, guys, That's what's
going on. We are literally in a war. And you know,
even on this other view Alex Joneses posted, Charlie Kirk's
assassin can allegedly be seen on the roof of the

(01:15:04):
Utah Valley University running away after shooting Charlie Kirk in
the neck. Speech. Attendees spot the figure on the roof
before the event even begins, and his assassin, his assassin
is still at large. I still feel sick to my stomach.
You know, when I saw the video, the close range
video of this, I was sick.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
I had an anxiety attack.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Actually I did, I mean you asked, Sherry, and I
was already kind of prepared myself for the Charlotte episode tonight,
and then Charlie Kirk happened. I was like, well, we
obviously got to do this. We get to talk about
what's the latest on this and all that. But it's
it makes me sick to my stomach, what happens today

(01:15:51):
to Charlie Kirk and to free speech and to everything
that we thought that America once stood for. I want
to break in a little more of Fox News.

Speaker 17 (01:16:07):
Good evening, Welcome to Washington on Brettbaer breaking tonight, political
discourse once again turning to political violence in America with
deadly consequences. Conservative commentator Charlie Kirk was killed today in
a shooting at a rally in Utah. Initial reports that
a suspect was in custody were later dismissed. Police and
federal agents are now actively engaged in a search and

(01:16:30):
are telling residents to shelter in place. Kirk was kicking
off his American comeback tour at Utah Valley University in Orum,
about forty miles from Salt Lake City. Witnesses say a
shot rang out and Kirk fell backward. He was immediately
attended to and taken to a nearby hospital. About an
hour ago, President Trump posted that Charlie Kirk had died.

(01:16:54):
He was thirty one years old and leave behind leaves
behind a wife.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
And two children.

Speaker 17 (01:17:01):
Kirk was the founder and president of Turning Point USA,
an enormously popular national student movement. Used his open public
events by saying, if you disagree with me, move to.

Speaker 3 (01:17:13):
The front of the line.

Speaker 17 (01:17:15):
Chief of course bonding. Jonathan Hunt reports tonight from Los
Angeles with what we know with this hour, Good evening, Jonathan.

Speaker 8 (01:17:21):
Good evening, Brett Terrible scenes today on the campus of
Utah Valley University in aram Utah, just about thirty minutes
or so south of Salt Lake City. That the scene
on the right you're looking at there are the probably
two thousand or so people who had turned out to
watch and listen to Charlie Kirk at the campus in

(01:17:44):
the Sorenson Plaza, which is right in the center of
that campus. We are not for very obvious reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:17:51):
Good, all right, guys, we're gonna we're gonna go ahead
and break away from that because we've already heard that.
I was just trying to see what the latest from
Fox News was same thing we have heard. But what
we are actually seeing on X is that right after
the shooting you can see a shooter on the roof
and this is a guy in black clothing. And right
after that you also have a couple of different camera

(01:18:13):
angles that show this shooter running on the roof right
after the shooting, going back towards likely wherever he entered
the roof. He is exiting the roof. So we do
not have a suspect still in custody as of right now.

Speaker 4 (01:18:27):
Yeah, in we need to say it could be a he,
a she, or ay, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:33):
And by the way, Nathan that you just heard on
the podcast, he literally just texted me and said, I
just got a warning to shelter in place. I am
getting my gun and going out. So so Nathan lives,
by the way, right in this vicinity where all of
this happened. There is now a shelter in place order.
This is breaking right now. No one else has even

(01:18:53):
talked about this. This is from Nathan Jones, which is
the clear founder right there in Provo, Utah. They do
have a shelter or in place order in Provo, Utah
to where they are warning all residents to take place
in shelter, do not leave your home.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
They do believe potentially this shooter is around the area.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Likely this shooter, in my opinion, will not probably cause
harm to anyone else.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
This was his mission.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
His mission now is going to be to get the
hell away from there as far as he possibly can,
to get out and exit the scene as much as possible.
You know, there was something that someone on telegram said
earlier that, you know, I would like to see the
flight logs leaving this area because if this was a
either New World Order globalist hit on Charlie Kirk, he

(01:19:41):
may have transportation out of there very fast after the fact,
whether it be private jet obviously you're not necessarily going
to be on a commercial airliner.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
But well, and this obviously was a skilled shooter. I
mean he's shot and he shot to kill.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Yeah, absolutely, and it was very definat.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
That being said, you know this was very planned you know,
it was planned out well, so I'm sure he had
an escape route.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Yeah, I want to play something from Alex Jennes right now.
This is Alex Jenn's talking about you know, they knew that,
I guess Charlie Kirk was dead up to an hour ago.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
But listen to what Alex says.

Speaker 5 (01:20:19):
All right, I've got some really bad news for people.

Speaker 11 (01:20:24):
I just got a call five minutes ago from a
very trusted source, has ever been wrong connected to the Three
letter agencies, who's very close to people. They were on
the ground there when Charlie Kirk was shot in the
Utah today and he died a long time ago. So
he's dead. And I got a.

Speaker 5 (01:20:44):
Call saying where your info? He might be a love
and I.

Speaker 11 (01:20:46):
Said, I'm getting off the news. They said, no, he's dead.
That's directly from people on the ground. I'll leave it
at that, very close to Charlie. So they killed him.
The Left killed him, and I get the family and
others are probably thinking of what they're gonna say, what
they're gonna do.

Speaker 5 (01:21:04):
But you see that footage, they.

Speaker 11 (01:21:08):
Say, clearly from the report with a rifle and all
the rest of it. High powered rifle, they said, because
the reason his chest lifts up is just the effect
that the bullet and high speed creates. But hit him
in the neck and Charlie's dead. But the Left thinks
this is gonna timidate us to shut up, and another
think coming Charlie was out there at the campus, is
getting millions of gun people to vote for Trump, and

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they just the left cannot allow this. And John Podesta
plan was if Trump get reelected, to launch a civil war.
So it's live now. Everybody should be really be watching.
Now they're gonna try to kill Trump again. Does God
bless you all? And gobbles. Charlie Kirk, he died like
a Viking king sword in his hand. The info war. Now,
I pray my source is wrong, but this source has been.

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
So there is Alex Jenns talking about you know, they
kind of knew that Charlie Kirk was dead not very
long at all.

Speaker 4 (01:22:04):
Well, if anyone saw the videos like we did, and
if the videos were real, which I think they were,
there is no way anyone could have survived that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
No, they're definitely real.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
And forty eight seconds ago, Raws Alerts is reporting that
the suspected shooter of Charlie Kirk has been taken into custody.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
According to the FBI.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
This is forty eight seconds ago, thank god, so they
have taken him into custody as of right now six
twenty seven pm Eastern Standard time. The suspected shooter of
Charlie Kirk has been taken into custody. According to the FBI,
this is just not breaking. So we will obviously see

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what happens after this. We will see who this shooter is,
what are his ties? Who was this person? Guys, I'm
probably gonna wrap this up now because I'll be honest, man,
this has been a hard episode to get through. And
sorry if stuff was kind of all over the place,
but you know, we were preparing for a whole other

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episode tonight. We decided to do this one for obvious reasons.
This is the most important topic in America today. And
what I will say is like, I know a lot
of you guys you don't like hearing ads on our
shows a lot, and I get it. And that's really
the only way we are funded whatsoever, in any way,

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shape or form.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
But we will make sure that all.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Funds from this episode, no matter how big it gets,
goes to Turningpoint USA. For Charlie Kirk, this is what
he built, This is what he wanted to do. This
was his message, This was his fight. This was something
that he believed was the most important fight in America
was to not lose our youth and we are losing

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them on a regular and daily basis. As I said earlier,
the shootings we see just in our area are from
sixteen in seventeen and eighteen year olds. The shooters that
are shooting people now based on ideologies or people that
they don't agree with, including Charlie Kirk, in large part
of based on what they hear from either social media

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or from mainstream media.

Speaker 3 (01:24:17):
Or from their college campuses.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
And so someone decided today that because Charlie Kirk was
preaching a message of God and faith and hope and
prosperity for America, that he should be dead.

Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
And this is evil. And I'm gonna leave you with this,
and I want you to understand this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
God said, as you go out and you speak, and
you stand up and you fight, and you say the
same things that I want you to say, you say
the same things that I said. In the face of danger,
in the face of evil, you will also be persecuted.
Just understand that. Already know that's coming. But do not
be afraid, because Jesus was not afraid. And I think

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that Charlie Kirk was not afraid. He was a warrior,
he was brave, He was someone that we all should
aspire to be. And it's going to suck for his
family for a very long time, his kids, his wife,
the people around him, the people that looked up to
Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
I want you to pray for those people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
I want you to pray for his family mostly, and
I want you to pray for America. I don't know
where we go from here, but whatever our next step
is has to be very methodical. We have to figure
out what it is. How do we fight evil when
we don't even necessarily see.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Or know who evil is?

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
How do we fight evil when trying to spread the message?
But at the very last thing I will say is regardless,
we cannot cower and we cannot fear our evil force
that are against us. We are more powerful than those forces.
Today was very devastating for me. It was very hard
to even do this episode. And it's because I think

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that we lost something that was so good, even at
such a young age. Thirty one years old, yeah, thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
One years old.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
And this is going to likely inspire others to do
the same thing. I mean, I hate to say this,
this is going to the same way. It's going to
inspire people on the right or the people that are
for good to do the right thing and to get
out there and preach and to say the things you
want to say. This is also going to inspire the
people on the evil and the left side. And I'm

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not saying everybody on the left is bad or evil.
I'm just saying this is going to inspire evil also,
So just keep that in mind. But guys, we're going
to close it with Shivers, and this is by loving caliber.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Shivers is uh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Chivers is a song that just makes you think that,
like you know, you think this is all a dream,
and it's like today is almost like a dream of
the nightmare.

Speaker 4 (01:27:07):
It is, and I feel sick to my stomach.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
The guys, it's the next time. We love you, Peace out,
stay safe. We'll pray for all of us. Most love you, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:27:19):
Make it through.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
But all that it takes this one ement of you,
and nobody knows the way it nobody knows it hurts

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just a little. Know with my friends and we dream.
That's why I can't remember how it would feel too
a wake up. In that bed Drive episode, all of
them mans tried to rais just because back when I'm sooner,

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I see there are things, and it's shiver. Nobody knows
the way it shiver. Nobody knows because it's Hi it's cold.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Then it's not likely that Jill and.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
My ms it's shiffers it. It's just for a mind

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that false sleep and not dream of play. I hate
to admit it. Motivit is. I don't know if fuck
U without your sh Nobody knows the way. Nobody knows

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because Jews it's cold. It's not likely that Joke and
my arms and shivers. It urts.

Speaker 5 (01:29:38):
Shivers, it urt