Charlie Kirk Assassination Aftermath: Shooter in Custody, Public Reaction & What Comes Next

A few days after the shocking assassination of Charlie Kirk, new details are emerging. The suspected shooter is now in custody, and the nation is reacting in real time—some with grief, others with anger, and disturbingly, some with celebration. In this episode, we reflect on the day of the attack, break down the arrest of the suspect, and examine what the public’s reaction says about the state of America. Join us as we uncover what’s known, what’s being hidden, and what this moment means for the future.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
It's just for a minute.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
I'd fastly not dream about you. I hate to admitted
I'm out of it, dies, I don't know what to do.
Most of the times I think I'll make it through.

(00:30):
But all that it takes on a much of.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
You, and it's.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Nobody.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
A few days ago, our world was shaken when Charlie
Kirk was gunned down and what can only be described
as a political earthquake. And the hours that followed we
reported on a chaos, the unanswered questions, and the eerie
silence from those who should have been speaking loudest. Now,
as the dust begins to settle, we find ourselves in
a moment of reflection. The suspect, no longer a shadowy
figure in a headline, is in custody. The face, the name,

(01:02):
and the motive of are beginning to take shape, and
with that comes the public's reaction, a nation split between shock, outrage, denial, and,
in even some cases, disturbing celebration. It's a sober and
reminder of where we are as a country and the
dangerous lines we've crossed. Tonight, we look back at that
day and what were revealed about America, and we take
a hard look at the man accused the pull and

(01:23):
the trigger, and what his arrest tells us about the
forces moving behind the curtains. Guys, welcome to the show.
It is September twenty twenty five. The name of this
song is Shiver's Image of You by Loving Caliber. I
know a lot of you ask what the song was
on our last episode when we first broke the news
of Charlie Kirk's assassination, and I gotta be honest, guys,

(01:45):
that was probably one of our hardest podcasts we've ever done.
And we had just seen this happen probably two hours
prior to actually recording the episode, and it was really
so hard to get through. And it's still hard to
kind of wrap your mind around that we actually have
people in the United States of America that hates someone's

(02:06):
speech so bad that they are willing to actually go
through the far lengths of setting up and planning an
attack like they did that day at Utah Valley University
and taking some innocent person's life to where now kids
are without a father, a wife was out a husband,
and parents are without a child. And it's still very sad,

(02:29):
it's very sobering, and as the intro says, I think
this really should tell us where we are as in America.
I know this does not represent all Americans for sure,
but we also have to understand that I think we
are already at war. And it was someone that was
saying this the other day and I thought about this.
I was like, are we actually at war? I mean,

(02:51):
is that really what is going on? And we are,
We just don't quite realize it yet. But what I
thought we should do is Turning Point in USA just
released this amazing three minute, twenty two second long video
honoring Charlie Kirk, and so we're going to play that
to open this episode, and then we'll get into the
shooter that is now in custody. Was it Israel? Which

(03:11):
is what everybody's trying to say. Is this just some deranged,
twenty what two year old that over the past couple
of years changed a lot of his political beliefs to
the point where he was radicalized. And we've seen this,
We've been seeing this for years. We saw it with
Antifa and BLM and a lot of the stuff when
they burnt down cities. This is just the next step

(03:32):
which leads to assassinations. But let's go ahead and play
the Turning Point USA dedication to Charlie Kirk. This kind
of goes through his lineage, where he started, where he
came from, and where he.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Was We're acting them about fifteen campuses and we're growing very,
very quickly. And keep in mind, this is not just
a flash in the pan movement. We're going to become
an institution to give them the power and the confidence
to stand.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Up and let their voice be heard.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
I started organization when I was eighteen years old. I
decided not to go to college. I didn't get in
my dream school, which was the United States Military Academy
at West Point. I have this idea to galvanize and
motivate the future youth of this country around a core
set of ideas, not just political parties or politicians. And
the ideas are really America is the greatest country in
the history of the world. Constitution is the greatest political
document ever written in free enterprise, the most sureed way

(04:20):
to lift people out of poverty and create prosperity for all.
Those are the three big ideas, and I think that's
something that can win. We as Christians are called to
go into the public arena to correct error with truth.
So I go to college campuses and there's a lot

(04:42):
of error. We're all sinners, we are all living error.
I'm far more interested in what God wants of me
than what I want from God.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
I have to say this without getting emotional, but I'm
very proud of my husband, and I know many of
you are too.

Speaker 8 (04:58):
You have worked so hard, and I know a lot of.

Speaker 9 (05:00):
You have seen.

Speaker 7 (05:01):
Obviously, his video is on TikTok and all the stuff
he does on campus, but no one gets to see
him from my angle except for myself and our children.
And the sacrifices that he made this year.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
He's amazing.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
I'm very blessing, and I would not have been able
to do any of it without Erica.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
And that's the real truth. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 6 (05:34):
You are here as a grassroots response to the top
down revolution happening in this country. I want our Turning
Point USA students to receive a round of applause. These
are the freedom fighters of America.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
And the media said the Turning Point could never run
a ground game.

Speaker 10 (05:53):
They weren't experienced, They didn't know Charlie right.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
This is the greatest generational realignment since Woodstock. This generation
is the most conservative generation that we have seen and
well over fifty years, and the numbers show it. What
young people especially are screaming at is they say, give
me a structure that I can live my life by,

(06:17):
and especially with young men, more challenging of them, more
saying you know what, honestly, I'm not going to talk
down to you. Stop being a boy and become a man.
You want to learn what that means, Come to church
and I'll tell you what it means to become a
man because we have the greatest story ever told.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
What can I do to save the country?

Speaker 6 (06:34):
You answer that question every single day because you are
doing the work to save this beautiful republic. You are
doing something that is bigger than you.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
If everything completely goes away, how do you want to
be remembered. I want to be remembered for courage from
my faith. That would be the most important thing. Most
important thing is my.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
Faith in my life.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
There you go, Oh my god, that was a why'd
you play that?

Speaker 8 (07:08):
Because now I'm booing.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, it's sad, it really is. It's very sad. But
that was Charlie Kirk. That was who Charlie Kirk was.
That was his legacy. That is what everybody will always
remember Charlie Kirk as and you know, there's one thing
at Sary. I know that you wrote it down, but
you know he said this, and he said that young
men are asking and looking up to someone to say,

(07:30):
give me structure to my life to live by, Like
what do I need to live by? Because I'm so
lost in this generation? I'm so lost in the world
around me. And that was something that Charlie Kirk did
so well with turning Point USA, going to college campuses
and inspiring and influencing kids in the right way, not
the wrong way. Not the things that you should go

(07:53):
out and do and go out and rob people or
kill people, shoot people, or do violent things, or be
a bad person. Charlie Kirk went and taught how to
be the best man or kid or just young person
you possibly can be to grow up to actually offer
something more than violence and hate to the world. I've

(08:15):
looked back on this a lot, obviously over the past
few days. You know, there's one thing I know for
sure is as much as Shery and I have struggled spiritually,
this has been a wide awakening for us as well,
and I think it has for a lot of people.
There are people now that are coming out of the
woodwork and saying, you know what, you know, Charlie gave
his life for his beliefs, his values, and most importantly

(08:38):
Jesus Christ, and that's why he did go out and
do these events in public where yes he had security,
but not to the point of say, Donald Trump. You know,
just look back at Butler, Pennsylvania. You know, Trump was
the leading candidate for president and they could barely protect
him that day. He is very lucky that he is

(08:58):
not another Charlie Kirk. Trump almost got assassinated in Butler,
Pennsylvania by Thomas Crooks that we still basically know nothing about.
And now we have this Charlie Kirk assassination. We do
have a suspecting custody, which we will talk about in
just a little bit. But one of the things I
want to talk about now is what this is actually
doing to people, right. I mean, Charlie Kirk's death is

(09:22):
not going to live in vain. He was sent here
for a purpose, for a reason. And as I've seen
so many videos on the Internet that are celebrating Charlie
Kirk's assassination, I mean they are celebrating it in such
a vile and disgusting way. It literally makes me sick.
And it's really really hard for me not to react,

(09:44):
not to go in and start responding to a lot
of these people. I have responded to a few of
them on social media, and some of you listeners, by
the way, have just commented on my post to some
of these people and said, don't even react, don't respond.
This is what they want. They're probably bots. There are
probably some one that is desperately trying to engage and
start this kind of civil war, which it seems like

(10:04):
that's what they really truly want. And as I said
at the beginning, I think that we are already in war.
I think we have been for a long time. But
there are turning points, yeah, and this is going to
be a turning point for America.

Speaker 8 (10:15):
It is.

Speaker 11 (10:15):
And before we get into the negativity of the people
that are lashing out and celebrating his death, I do
want to celebrate the people that are celebrating his life,
because there's so many people from different fractions of life
that are coming out and saying, hey, listen, I don't
care what political alliance you're with, I don't care what

(10:36):
religion you are this man stood for something beyond that.

Speaker 8 (10:41):
This was not just a political thing.

Speaker 11 (10:43):
He's just for something so much bigger and higher than
what man just himself represents. This was a movement. This
was a movement for children, for you know, college aged
kids to figure out their lives and figure out what
is going on in their world and to bring them.

Speaker 8 (11:00):
Back to God.

Speaker 11 (11:01):
So do I praise those that are speaking out. Even
Nick Flintes came out, you know, and that was hard
to listen to because, you know, like he said, him
and Charlie Kirk did not get along. They did not
agree with many many things. But he even came out
and discussed saying this is wrong. You do not do this.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
You do not You do not speak.

Speaker 11 (11:24):
With bullets, You speak with words and you have dialogue together.

Speaker 12 (11:29):
You know.

Speaker 11 (11:29):
Even Ben Shapiro, he's a Jew, he came out in
protest against what happened to Charlie Kirk. Sure, and I
just really praise those that are not just Christians and
even people that are on the left or liberals that
are coming out and speaking against this violence, because that's
what we need to do to unify and uprise against

(11:49):
the violence.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't think and that was something Nick
flint has said last night on his stream, he said, look, guys,
if any of my followers think that the right thing
to do is to pick up arms or to pick
up a gun and actually go out and start killing
people on the other side, I disavalue, you know. And
obviously people like Nick Fuintez and now Charlie Kirk and
so many others, including Tucker Carlson came out and said

(12:11):
how many times that you know, he himself has had
close calls, even with assassinations. And you can imagine someone
like Charlie Kirk, which was huge on this stage, whether
it be the a conservative movement, the Christian movement, Yes,
Charlie Kirk was massive. He was massively influential in Donald
Trump being elected. Donald Trump got thirty seven of the

(12:33):
youth vote for a conservative. That's the first time that's
ever happened, in large part because of Charlie Kirk. But
also you have to think this is you know, although
Nick Fuintes and and Charlie Kirk did not agree, one
thing they definitely did agree on was the messaging. You know,
it was Although I think the big thing with Nick

(12:53):
Fuintez and Charlie was the Israel deal, although yes, Charlie
Kirk did question Israel at times, and you know, especially
over the past six months to a year, but then
of course everybody came out and started blaming Israel. Now,
obviously we have been or I have definitely been critical
of Israel and their response in October seventh and all this,
But then you see people like Ian Carroll and others,

(13:14):
Dan Bilzirian, all of these people saying, oh, absolutely, it's
definitely Israel. And Sharon and I were just talking before
the show, and it's like that completely destroys what you
like to say that you were right about everything for
the past six months, a year, two years, especially since
October seventh, about Israel's response, their control of government, apak,

(13:35):
you name it. You are now being the boy that
cries wolf, because it's like, now everything is blamed on Israel.
But what I do find hoping with this whole thing
is it is waking people up. And there was this
young black kid. I saw his video, and this young
black kid looks to be probably nine or ten years old,

(13:57):
and he decided to do a video on Instagram because
he obviously likes so many are on social media and
he's starting to see a lot of the celebratory post
from the left, and this is what he had to
say about Charlie Kirk and especially to people that were
celebrating his death. Wait, don't scrol.

Speaker 13 (14:17):
I wanted to come over here and talk about the
death of someone I looked up to, Charlie Kirk, and
I wanted to say that it is disrespectful how people
are making Fortnite memes and talking bad about him like
he was a horrible person. All he did was have
boldness in his faith with Jesus Christ, Like you guys
are so mean to people just because.

Speaker 8 (14:38):
They have beliefs.

Speaker 13 (14:40):
As Christians, we respect you for your beliefs, but we
tell you what's wrong and what's right righteously. But you
do not need to be making fun of him because
a tragedy has happened. That's all I want to come
in on here to say is it's blatantly rude and
disrespectful to be talking about someone's death like he's just
a piece of trash. A family has kids, he.

Speaker 8 (15:01):
Has a wife.

Speaker 5 (15:03):
Guys, you guys want someone.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
To respect you.

Speaker 14 (15:06):
If you got shot, right, if you passed.

Speaker 13 (15:08):
Away, you would not want anyone to be talking bad
about you, and I saw a video well yeah, I
saw someone making fun.

Speaker 14 (15:15):
Of his wife too, Like that's just horrible and rude.
And today is a very special day to me because
I hit fourteen thousand followers, but I don't even want
to celebrate that because I just feel guilty that one
of someone I looked up to passed away and still
and I'm still able to be on this earth.

Speaker 9 (15:35):
That's how grateful you have to be.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
So just stop.

Speaker 13 (15:39):
Making fun of him and just go like, just stop
making fun of him. It's just it's not even funny
at all.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah, So in this videos like this from this young
black kid in America that looked up to Charlie Kirk
and it didn't matter about race or any of this stuff,
but he knew that he was a Jesus follower Charlie
Kirk and spy this kid, you know. And it's one
of the things Donald Trump said. You know. It was
actually Baron Trump, donald Trump's son, that came to him

(16:08):
and said, hey, I want to meet somebody that you know.
Obviously Trump knows everybody, and so Trump was thinking, like,
who am I Who's Baron wanting to meet? And it
was Charlie Kirk, you know, and it was like, this
is who I really want to meet. So Trump set
up a luncheon for them and kind of let them
hang out. And when Baron came back, Baron said, man,
that is one of the coolest and nicest and most

(16:28):
just unassuming people you'll ever possibly meet. And this is
what Charlie Kirk did to so many people. This is
what he did for so many of our youth. And
it's not just our youth, it's adults as well. And
you know, because of this tragedy, obviously, I've just went
deeper in, you know, my battle with spirituality and my
battle with all of that stuff. And I and I've

(16:49):
thought about it from the standpoint of Charlie, but there's
also other people. I want to play another quick video
of this guy, and he said that he has been
two of afraid to speak, but he has been now
inspired by Charlie Kirk and he wants to come out
and talk and say what he wants to say. So
listen to this quick video.

Speaker 15 (17:12):
My name is John. I have practically no online presence,
and the reason for that is because I am scared
to post things that I believe or really care about
because I worry about what people will think of me.
I am worried about missing out on opportunities because of

(17:34):
an online footprint. Yesterday, a man died, presumably because he
believed the same things that I believe in. I am
a conservative, and more importantly, I'm a Christian. I believe
wholeheartedly that Jesus Christ is my bord and Savior, that

(17:57):
he died from our sins, rose again, and that he
is God. I know, the NM grand scheme of things.
I don't really matter. No one knows or even cares
who I am. But if there's even one person who
sees this and gains the courage to speak up themselves,

(18:21):
that's why I'm making this, just so that everybody knows
that we're not alone.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yeah, and it's people like you, John, by the way,
that even though you think you're insignificant, no one knows
who you are, No one cares. There is a mass
of you now. And it's something that I've thought about,
you know, since the assassination. I'm like you, Yeah, you
may have silenced one, but you have now rased many. Yeah,
you've raised many. You have created an army, and you know,

(18:51):
sometimes we don't realize why and how things happen. We
just don't understand it, especially as Christians. That's that's been
one of my biggest struggles. And when you think about
someone like Charlie Kirk, that was, you know, well versed
in the Bible. He believed wholeheartedly in the Bible and
Jesus Christ as a savior he was. That's literally the
reason why he went without fear to these college campuses,

(19:14):
knowing the amount of people that truly hated him and
wanted to see him dead. But he went out there
without fear and preached, spoke, talked to the people directly
the face the face.

Speaker 11 (19:25):
Because he didn't just talk to people that liked him,
he talked to people that hated him. And that's where
the conversation has to go. You're not going to come
to an agreement if you can't have conversation with people
that disagree with you.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
And I've always said this on the podcast too. It
is like I've always wanted people to come on this
show that do not agree with us. In some ways,
I want people to come on the show more that
do not agree with us, not because I want to
prove them wrong, but because I just want the conversation
to happen. You know, it's not necessarily even just to
say that, Hey, I know without a doubt that everything

(20:00):
I'm going to say, I'm just trying to get one
up on you. I'm trying to win the battle. I'm
trying to win. You know, it's like a prosecution and defense.
I just want to win. No matter what the right
argument is, I want to win. And I think that
there is a right argument. Right in every debate, there
is a right side and a wrong side, there is
a winner and a loser. But the reality of it
is is that both sides always think that they are

(20:22):
the winner. All those side yeah, and they are the
right one.

Speaker 11 (20:25):
Well, listen, we even have debates in some fashion, I guess,
especially when it comes to Israel. We don't agree on
the whole Israel topic, and when we discuss it and
we do kind of debate, I don't know if there
is a winner or a loser, but at least we're
coming together and we're discussing it and we're trying to
be civil to each other. It's not like we're trying

(20:48):
to go kill each other after the you know, the podcast.
But I think we have to have civil discourse in
order to understand where the other person's coming from and
from where you're coming from, and to see if there
is a common middle ground somehow somewhere, And that's you
know that, that is my hope with this tragedy.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
I one agree with that. And you know, but here's
the thing, you know, it's yes, there is common ground
in everything, right, it is even for the Israel. Argument
is everything the Israel has done and it has always done,
been one hundred percent on the up and up. Of
course not they're a government. Same thing with the United States,
same thing with any group people the left, the right, Christians, Muslims,

(21:30):
you name it. There are always radicalists in all groups.
There are always people that are bad people. They are
evil people that disguise themselves in certain ways. And that
doesn't mean that we should represent all people through a
certain group. And unfortunately for Charlie Kirk, you know, Charlie
Kirk was a huge voice in the conservative space. He

(21:51):
was the main target. They couldn't get to Trump, so
they're like, who is the next in line? How can
we really try to silence these people? How can we
do whatever we can to make people more fearful to
go out and speak and how can we really send
the message to these fascists as they call them, right,
and when we get into the shooter and kind of
his background and his anti fascist movement also known as Antiva,

(22:14):
which is also heavily funded by the Soroses and the
World Economic Forums and the Globalist Antiva is a literal
constructed movement from Globalist It is the anti fascist movement.
And these are all heavily funded movements. We've seen them
during Black Lives Matter, We've seen them during every single

(22:34):
public unrest in our country for the past fifteen years,
and it's grown and grown and grown to the point
now where they are it seems like manufacturing assassins to
go out and actually assassinate their people that they do
not agree with. And they want to send messages in
this for sure, there's no question. But also have another

(22:56):
video to play. We're plans that we're playing through some stuff, guys,
and so with us, Well, this is a nurse that
thought about this Charlie Kirk thing for a while and
this was something that was on her heart pretty heavy,
and I want to play this too, and uh, we'll
talk about it after listen.

Speaker 16 (23:13):
Hey, friends, I have debated making this video. I have
wanted to make it, and then I've been like, I
can't stop crying because I'm emotional. And I've watched countless
videos talking about the events of not only yesterday, but man,

(23:35):
there's so many like that we're either unaware of or
just have a been paying attention to. But like many
of you that I have watched your videos, I who,
I'm gonna try to do this without like getting choked up.
I have felt felt very, very very convicted, and the
thing that keeps coming to mind and it was like

(23:57):
hammered into my head as a kid.

Speaker 9 (24:00):
Right, don't be lukewarm. Don't be a lukewarm Christian. A
lot of people that.

Speaker 16 (24:14):
Either first meet me or don't really know me that well,
I have no idea that I'm a Christian from looking
at me. Unless you look closely at my tattoos to
know that a lot of them are scripture, you wouldn't know.

(24:36):
And I think I'm getting choked up because that's not
how I want my relationship with God to be. I
don't want people to not know what It's like a
secret relationship. Right, Why would I want a secret relationship?

(24:57):
It's a relationship. It's not a belief system.

Speaker 9 (25:01):
It's not. I call it that all the time, but
it's not. It's a relationship. Sorry, might work. And it's.

Speaker 16 (25:12):
I've been lukewarm Revelations three fifteen sixteen, which is the reference,
like I don't even know it by heart because I
don't read my Bible enough, honest, honest truth. It says,

(25:34):
Revelations three fifteen and sixteen. I know your deeds that
you are neither cold nor hot. I could wish you
were cold or hot. So then because you are lukewarm
and neither cold nor hot, I will vomit you out
of my mouth.

Speaker 9 (25:51):
And it says it's describing.

Speaker 16 (25:55):
The I'm gonna mispronounce this word the Laedusian Church, warning
against complacent, apathetic faith that's neither neither fully committed to
God nor actively against him, but indifferent. And from where
I live. So, I live in the state of Oregon,
and I had a conversation with someone earlier today who

(26:17):
works in mental health.

Speaker 9 (26:19):
I work at a jail. I deal with mental health
all the time.

Speaker 16 (26:23):
And he said to me, there's a general consensus of
the conservatives in Oregon that they're like, hey, as long
as it's not happening on my lawn. As long as
it's not affecting me personally. I don't want to hear
about it. I don't want to see it. I'll act
if I have to write. That's just being indifferent. Sure,

(26:48):
there's you don't like. I'm very much like. I don't
want to be extreme one way or the other, right,
but I also want people to see my deeds and
know without me having to say, then I'm a Christian.
And if they do say it, like ask, I want to.
I want to proclaim it right. I don't want to

(27:08):
pee lukewarm anymore. So this isn't about Charlie Kirk. It's
so much bigger than that. It's so much bigger, and.

Speaker 9 (27:30):
We're being called people keep talking about a shift.

Speaker 16 (27:37):
I felt it too, So from here on out, I
don't care if you want to unfread me, if you
don't like emotional people, if you don't like people from Oregon,
if you don't like Christians, I don't.

Speaker 9 (27:54):
I don't care, unfriend me, unfollow me. I don't care.

Speaker 16 (27:58):
Because the part I'm gonna be indifferent about it's not
my faith. I'm gonna be indifferent about other people's opinion,
which is how it should have been to begin with.
I'm not gonna worry about offending anyone because my relationship
with Jesus Christ is more important to me and we

(28:23):
should have been in for that. My heart hurts, but
that changes today with this video. So thanks for watching.
I really did try, but this has been how I
felt all day and yesterday.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
There you go. And so that was a nurse that
you know, she's given her I guess you can say
kind of testimony, but just the way she's lived her life,
what this Charlie Kirk assassination did for her, whether she
realized is it completely or not. I think this has
done something for a lot of people. And I think
I think if there's one thing that if Charlie is

(29:08):
looking down right now, that he's going to be the
most proud of, is people that have recognized his death.
But also the light that comes from that, and it's
a glowing light, and.

Speaker 11 (29:17):
That light is a miracle because look at what it's
doing to so many people. It's putting them from on
the fence to over where. Like like she said, I'm
not going to be complacent. I'm not going to be indifferent.
If you don't like the way I am, then you
can unframe me, because I'm no longer going to worry
about your opinions. What matters most to me is my

(29:39):
relationship with God, and I need to be a steward
of that and let other people know about my relationship
with God. And I think that is so important in
any religion, is that relationship with God for sure, and
to share that relationship with others. No matter what religion
you are. You know, as long as you believe in
a God, there is no sense in cowardly assassinations like this, no,

(30:04):
you know. And I'm especially again proud of those people
that are not Christians that are standing up to this.
I am proud it's are liberals that are standing up
to this. Yeah, you know, I think it's harder for
those people to come out of the woodworks and say, hey,
I don't agree with this, or if you know a transsexual,
or I'm a gay person or whatever, you know, whoever

(30:26):
really hated him and called him a fascist.

Speaker 8 (30:29):
Those people that are coming out and saying.

Speaker 11 (30:31):
Listen, I didn't agree with everything that Charlie Kirk said,
but I do not agree with this, and I'm going
to stand with Charlie Kirk. That just shows so much
admiration for those people to stand up that you know,
we're not just Christians but people from every facet of life.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, for sure, you know. And it's crazy, like this
movement is growing, and I'm so glad to see this
movement growing. I mean, as I said earlier, Charlie Kirk's
death cannot go in vain. And there are crowds that
were breaking out amazing grace him in central London. I mean,
we're talking about central London. This is a huge movement.

(31:07):
I just want to play this to you. I want
you to hear this in central London. Obviously we've talked
about Europe and the UK and all of that, and
especially their battles right now with culture and the immigration
issue and everything, and it's like, if you are a Christian,
or you speak out for your religion or your beliefs
or your core values, then you are going to be

(31:29):
the one that's sent off to jail or prison. And
this is what took place last night in central London. Listen.

(32:02):
So there you go, and that's central London. I mean,
these people are coming out in masses and they are
all proclaiming Jesus, they're all proclaiming all this stuff. And then,
as Sherry just said, Jeffrey Star, now he got scorched
by every single person on the left when he came
out about Charlie Kirk. And this is what he had

(32:24):
to say about Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 8 (32:26):
And he explained who he is real quick, because I
didn't even know who he was.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Yes, Sir, Jeffree Starr is he is trans. He is
one of the biggest influencers. I guess you can say
probably in that trans space YouTube. Whoever. He has all
the makeup contracts, he has everything. Jeffrey Star is one
of the biggest trans influencers. And so everybody in the
left came out completely hardcore against this guy because of

(32:52):
his beliefs and what he said after the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Let me play that for you.

Speaker 17 (33:00):
He encouraged everyone to speak about their beliefs, whether he
believed them or not.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
A LEXI, I don't really care.

Speaker 10 (33:08):
Am I a Republican? No, I'm a person.

Speaker 17 (33:11):
Because I'm standing up for someone that passed away. I'm
now being called names in the chat. This is what's
wrong with.

Speaker 4 (33:15):
A lot of you people.

Speaker 17 (33:16):
You will never get bar in life. You are sick
in the head. Someone just said they're unubscribing from me.
Thank god, please, because if you believe in vain thems,
you're part of the problem. If you're so stupid enough
to go against science, please unfollow me. You can be
whoever you want to be. But there's science and there's facts.

(33:41):
You can pretend in your head you're a cat. You
can pretend in your head that you're this and you're that.
Good for you, You're still only a arb and the
truth hurts a lot of you. I see, I see
a lot of you still can't get over it sounds
like a personal problem. While I've been live streaming, someone
was just and TikTok has guidelines, you guys, so I

(34:03):
have to censor what I'm saying. I'm uploating my video
right now. I am even though we're dealing with all
of this. I'm uploating my video right now. So, yes,
I am a grown ass man that wears makeup. I
will always be a male. My name is Jeffrey. Jeff
If you are my father, he's the only person allowed
to call me that. My name is Jeffrey. I am
a male that likes cosmetics. All these grown men going

(34:27):
into women's bathrooms wearing wigs, you should all be in
prison forever. You are the problem. So a grown man
that goes around the country debating people spitting facts was
just taken out, and I'm not over it.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I can't sit here and play with makeup right now.
I want to throw up.

Speaker 17 (34:48):
So No, I'm not a Republican. No, I'm not a Democrat.
I'm Jeffrey Starr. Stop trying to label me. Stop trying
to label me. I am a male, I am a
makeup artist. I am a makeup mogul. I am a
business owner. I am a farmer, I am a rancher,
I am a son. I am someone's cousin. I am
someone's friend. Stop labeling me. You' all don't know anything

(35:11):
about my beliefs. You just assume because I said I
was thankful that Trump brought back TikTok, I'm not being
accused of being a Republican. All I said months ago
when TikTok was banned and my business could be affected tremendously,
I said, wow, thank god Trump fixed it, or I
wouldn't be able to send my cosmetics on this platform.

(35:32):
I quit YouTube and dedicated my life to TikTok and
people are upset because I thanked our president. Politics aside,
biology will never change.

Speaker 4 (35:46):
Why is I up for debate?

Speaker 10 (35:48):
Am I saying any of this?

Speaker 17 (35:50):
Because Charlie Kirk fought for the rights, he fought for
the truth, He debated everybody, and you guys cannot argue
that you were a delusional and you were mentally ill
if you were trying to go against what.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
I just said.

Speaker 17 (36:04):
I didn't say in my opinion, I said a fact.
I am Jeffrey Lynn Steininger Junior. That's who I am.
I am born a male. I cannot believe I'm sitting
here six hours away from a crime scene like Utah
is just right down there. He's just a couple hours away,

(36:25):
and he was doing a debate at a college in
front of thousands of people, and his daughter was there
and he was just taken out.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I don't know how to process that right now. I'm
so sick.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm honestly so sick by it.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
And there you go, that's Jeffree star. And that's another reason. Okay,
It's like it's like not everybody is represented by the
groups that the media wants you to believe they are right,
and you know, it's one that that labels Yeah, it's
one of the things that Charlie Kirk would never look
at someone like Jeffrey Star. If you go and look
up Jeffrey Star right now, like in this video purple hair,

(37:01):
he looks like a female. You know, that is fake
nails on, fake nails on this whole thing. But what
Jeffrey is saying, and what Charlie Kirk did so well
is that he said, look, you know, anytime that Charlie
would would debate somebody and they would come up on
the microphone and they would say something. Although Charlie obviously

(37:22):
had a lot of followers that would kind of you know,
come around where Charlie was talking and when they started
booing or saying whatever to whoever this person was a
lot of times it was far left liberals that were
saying some crazy stuff, right, Charlie had always say, hey, guys,
chill out, let them talk like this is the whole
point of what we're doing. We want to talk and that,

(37:42):
you know, and sometimes they would come up and say, look,
I know you probably hate me or hate people like
me or this or that he's I don't hate you
like say say we want to say. I'll tell you
my opinion, my thought, my belief, and I'm gonna let
you say what you want to say. And Charlie was
always good at saying the right things, but he was
also always good at letting people talk, because it's not

(38:04):
always just about you talking, it's about letting other people talk.
There's something that James O'Keeffe said today, and he said,
if you're going to be a truth teller, your price
has to be your life. Right. You may get endorsements,
which is few and far between, by the way, when
you're a truth teller, when you're someone out there that's

(38:24):
going against the narrative, going against the globalist I mean,
how many sponsorships guys, have you guys heard on this podcast.

Speaker 11 (38:33):
I'm not trying to laugh because this is not a
laughable moment, but no, we don't have sponsorships because of
the topics we talk about.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah, but they don't want to attach their name to
people like that because they're so afraid with this woke ideology,
this small minority of people that have somehow taken so
much control in our country. They're so afraid that those
people are going to cancel them. Although they're literally opposite.
They they are literally opposite. Look at what happened with

(39:02):
bud Light when Dylan Movaney, the trans person that is
so trying to influence our kids on an everyday basis.
Look what happened when they brought Dylan Movaney on to
bud Light. Well, they got canceled, they got destroyed. And
it wasn't until Dana White and people like this they
got sponsorships and they're like, hey guys, bud Light's good again.
And then you had you.

Speaker 8 (39:22):
Know, now these men are showing bud Light on their commercials.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Now, yeah, I mean you had comedians, you had you know,
the post Malons and Joe Rogan and everybody start talking
about it again because they had to save bud Light
for whatever reason, although it was their own mistake. You
look at Cracker Barrel.

Speaker 11 (39:41):
Well, now Target is being exposed. I guess you know
they went really woke. Oh of course, Chad, you can
tell them about that. Chad is not the type of
person that wants to go to Walmart or Target. But
the few times and we went to Target, he was like,
holy cow, let me stop and just take a picture
of this, yeah, when it was in because it was
pretty crazy.

Speaker 8 (40:03):
I mean we saw in our own local Target.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, I mean they had bathing suits for guys that
were female bathing suits that had like a area for
a penis, you know. I mean it's just crazy stuff
like that. And this was on some of their main
As soon as you work in Target, Yeah, as soon
as you would walk in Target, it was on end cap.
It was just right in your face. And Target survived that.

Speaker 11 (40:24):
But well now Target has removed the wokeness from their store.
So now they're being boycotted by the extreme left.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Oh well yeah, well that makes sense. I mean, and
that's always what's going to happen, is that once you
do something so far left. And the reason why these
people do this, obviously it is because you know, you're
hiring people from universities for your marketing. In these universities,
the people you're hiring are getting a education not in marketing,
by the way, because your marketing is also going to suck.

(40:54):
And if you know anything about marketing is like, you
don't divide half of your your base, especially as a
I mean, it's one thing if you're like a conspiracy
podcast or a conservative podcast or a Democrat podcast, whatever.
Obviously you know who your base is. And that's what's
always kind of been tough for us, because you know,
we definitely have Democrats and we have Republicans when you

(41:14):
talk about conspiracy, So there are always people to say,
I just want you, guys, to only talk about conspiracy.
I want you to only talk about UFOs or a
ghost or this stuff. I don't want you ever to
talk about God or Trump or politics. But the reality
of what we do is just we are truth seekers.
And I am sorry to inform conspiracy theorists out there,

(41:38):
but if you think that most conspiracies are not also
traced back to politics, then you have not been paying
attention almost in every case, that all conspiracies are traced
back to political ideologies, almost all of them. I mean
there are some that are not, but most conspiracy theories
are politically or originated or in nature. And that's what

(42:03):
I find so funny is people are like, I don't
want you to talk about politics. I don't want to
talk about policy, I want to talk about conspiracy. Well,
how do you talk about conspiracy without talking about politics?
Because that literally usually is the base of all conspiracy theories.
That's literally the main actors in many of the conspiracy theories,
whether it be assassinations, whether it be cover ups, corruption,

(42:24):
you name it. Those are the biggest conspiracy theories in
the world, and they're all tied back to political forces.
I mean, there are things that we have brought on
the show before. We've talked about the flat Earth with
flat Earth, Dave, I don't necessarily believe in flat earth.
We've talked about Bigfoot. I don't necessarily one hundred percent
believe in Bigfoot. If I do, that's probably some kind
of interventional being. I mean, there's always things we bring

(42:47):
on that we're not trying to preach you guys and
say this is true, this is absolutely a fact. We
want to evaluate all things and then talk about them
how we feel and how we see them. But I
just I did want to play this James O'Keefe post
before we get into the press conference. Where are they
caught the shooter? And I do say that the Utah
governor did a good job today. Yeah, and then you

(43:08):
had cash, hotel, come on, you had all of that.
We'll break that down in just a minute. But here's
what James O'Keefe had to say about if you are
a truth teller, this is kind of your only options,
and this is what you need to be prepared for.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Your price.

Speaker 18 (43:23):
Is it ten million, is it twenty million, is it
one hundred million?

Speaker 10 (43:28):
What is your price?

Speaker 18 (43:29):
Because if your price is not your life, then you
are for sale. If your price is not your life,
then you are for sale.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Wow.

Speaker 18 (43:44):
So if you're going to be a truth teller, your
price has to be your life. I can't surround myself
with people whose price is not their life. Because the enemy,
whatever the enemy is, whether it be physical, legal, spiritual,
will will will attack the vulnerability of the person who
can be compromised. So you get real spiritual, real fast

(44:06):
if you're going to do this.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Type of work. I agree James o'kief one hundred percent.
And this is something that we've talked about, thought about,
We think about it on a regular basis. You know,
we we have a lot of people listening to our podcast,
but we're never going to back down from what we say.
We're never going to be afraid to talk about something
that we shouldn't. But also I don't think that anybody

(44:28):
could ever say about us like, well, you guys don't
want to talk about this because you're controlled or this
or that. No, first of all, we're never controlled by anybody.
We never would be controlled by anybody.

Speaker 10 (44:37):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Some of the stuff that we've talked about, just based
on our own upbringing and personal beliefs and so on
and so forth, have divided sharing eye at times, you know.
And I think with all of that, it's not just
you are willing to pay the price of your life
for what you're going to talk about or say, but
it also has to be what comes along with it

(44:59):
because it can't affect you personally. It can't affect your marriage,
it can't affect your relationships, it can't affect your friendships.
It can affect all of that. And it has for
us our beliefs and what we say on the podcast
and how adamant we are about certain things. It affects
our everyday life, It affects the people around us, It
affects our relationships, It affects everything. But that's not to
say that we shouldn't do it. And that's the biggest thing.

(45:21):
And I hope that with Charlie Kirk. Although I understand
there's gonna be people now discouraged from going out and
being another Charlie Kirk. There's gonna be people discouraged to say,
I don't urage afraid. Yeah, I don't want to do
that because like, look what happened to him. But what
I will say is that that is the biggest baton

(45:41):
that we have to pick up from Charlie Kirk is
to go forward and still speak. We cannot, as I
say again, we cannot let the workings of someone like
Charlie Kirk and so many others, by the way, even
JFK and all this stuff. There's a reason why we
have fought so hard to find out the truth about
JFK and the Martin Luther King assassination. We fought to

(46:04):
find that out because we want to know the truth
who is really behind it. And that was one of
the things that really kind of inspired us through this
whole seven eight year processes, like we got to keep going,
we got to keep talking. And it has been mentally
draining at times. It has been depressing. It has been sad.
If you guys are not on our telegram, we do
have a telegram channel where we talk to a lot

(46:25):
of you guys on live audio chats quite often. Actually,
we're on live audio chats with you guys quite often,
and we will talk to all of you. And there
have been nights to where I or Sherry or whoever
has been on telegram with you and we have literally
been nearly in tears or just completely I guess, like

(46:48):
the winds taken out of our cells, whether it be
something we've talked about, something we've been researching. The Charlie
Kirk thing is a great example. But then also there
were so many of you that were there to lift us.

Speaker 11 (46:58):
Up, say, and for us that's not just telegram, but
in so many messages. There has been so many uplifting
messages that I just want to say right now thank
you for those because they do not go unseen. And
I do thank you, for the bottom of my heart
for all those people that pray for us, because we
do need prayers. I think everyone needs prayers.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yeah. Absolutely, So let's go ahead and get in now
to the press conference. This is the press conference of
the FBI and the governor and of Utah where they
actually caught the killer of Charlie Kirk. And we'll get
into this section of our episode now about the killer
and just for those that do not know anything about
the killer. Let me go ahead and tell you who

(47:41):
Tyler Robinson is. So some sourts of say that he
may have been over the past couple of years changing
his political beliefs or just starting to get into this
political ideology. And so he is twenty two years old
from Utah. He does not attend Utah Valley University, but
he was an electrical apprenticeship program at Dixie Technical College.

(48:03):
He also briefly attended Utah State University. Doherty say he
became more political in recent years and that he had
expressed dislike of Kirk's views. There are messages that investigators
recovered via his roommate showing preparations retrieving a rifle from
a drop point, leaving it in a bush, referencing engraving bullets,
discussion of the rifle and scope, etc. So, if you

(48:26):
think about this engraving of bullets, we've kind of seen this.
We just saw this with a Minneapolis shooter, which is
also basically an anti fascist, although he was trans. You
also go back to a Luigi Mangion where he killed
the United Healthcare CEO. This is starting to become a movement.
This is a movement on their side of assassinations, and
this is likely all from Antifa, the anti fascist movement,

(48:49):
which is heavily funded by the globalist forces like George Soros.
So Robinson is now in custody. His charges include aggravated murder, felony,
firearm discharge or discharge of a far calls in serious
bodily harm, in obstruction of justice, among others. He is
right now being held without bail. He as allegedly confessed

(49:10):
or implied involvement to a family member which led to
someone akaa family friend contacting law enforcement. The father played
a role in recognizing him in release photos, confronting him,
encouraging surrender, and etc. Now, so they're also talking about
his father a little bit here. There's some conflicting still
emerging information, but here's the kind of current reporting. His

(49:31):
father's name is Matt Robinson. Matt Robinson is reported by
some sources to have recognized his son from surveillance federal
photos and then confronted him. Now after the recognition, Tyler
initially refused to turn himself in in one report, even
threatening suicide rather than being arrested, but the father got involved,
along with a youth pastor who was also involved in
a US Marshal task force. That youth pastor reportedly helped

(49:55):
persuade Tyler to surrender or stay put, enabling law enforcement
to take in the custom. So some sources are saying
Matt Robinson the father is one or was a deputy
with Washington County Sheriff's Office or has law enforcement background,
although we do not know for sure. Other reports are
more cautious, saying that the youth pastor who helped was
the one that was in law enforcement, which was in

(50:17):
the US Marshall Service Task Force officer, but not definitely
saying Matt himself is currently a law enforcement officer. We
don't one hundred percent know about the family and kind
of the origin. We do know that Tyler was registered
or I guess as an independent. He was not a
Republican or Democrat. Social media, they're literally taking the original
college pictures. I guess when he was in a college

(50:39):
dorm he had this red shirt on. And now they're
a leftist that are AI creating photos that showed Trump
twenty twenty four, Trump whatever. MAGA. They're just trying to
make him a part of MAGA. And obviously if you
are someone that is willing to kill Charlie Kirk, which
was literally the biggest supporter of Donald Trump and was
the main reason Johnald Trump was elected. Did you're not

(51:01):
going to go and assassinate Charlie Kirk if you Trump supporter?

Speaker 11 (51:04):
His parents registered as Republicans. But that goes to say,
when you go to college, your views sometimes change.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
All right. So I want to go in and get
into the press conference because I think there's some really
good details, but also just speeches from the Utah governor.
And this is the press conference. As soon as they
officially announced that they have caught the shooter of Charlie Kirk, listen, good.

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Morning, ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

Speaker 12 (51:33):
On the evening of September eleventh, a family member of
Tyler Robinson reached out to a family friend who contacted
the Washington County Sheriff's Office with information that Robinson had confessed.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
To them or implied that he had committed the incident.

Speaker 12 (51:49):
This information was relayed to the Utah County Sheriff's Office
and seen investigators at Utah Valley University. This information was
also conveyed to the FBI Investigator's reviewed. Additional video footage
from UVU surveillance and identified Robinson arriving on UVU campus
in a gray Dodge Challenger at approximately eight twenty nine

(52:10):
am on September tenth, in which he is observed on
video in a plain maroon T shirt, light colored shorts,
a black hat with a white logo, and light colored shoes.
When encountered in person by investigators in Washington County on
September twelfth in the early morning hours, Robinson was observed
in consistent clothing with those surveillance images. Investigators interviewed a

(52:35):
family member of Robinson, who stated that Robinson had become
more political in recent years. The family member referenced a
recent incident in which Robinson came to dinner prior to
September tenth, and in the conversation with another family member,
Robinson mentioned Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU.

Speaker 10 (52:54):
They talked about.

Speaker 12 (52:54):
Why they didn't like him and the viewpoints that he had.
The family member also stated Kirk was full of hate
and spreading hate. The family member also confirmed Robinson had
a gray Dodge Challenger. Investigators identified an individual as the
roommate of Robinson. Investigators interviewed that roommate, who stated that

(53:15):
his roommate, referring to Robinson, made a joke on discord.
Investigators asked if he would show them the messages on Discord.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
He opened it and showed.

Speaker 12 (53:23):
Several messages to investigators and allowed investigators to take photos
of the screen as each message was shown by Robinson's roommate.
These photos consisted of various messages, including content of messages
between the phone contact named Tyler with an emoji icon
and Robinson's roommate's device. The content of these messages included

(53:46):
messages affiliated with the contact Tyler, stating a need to
retrieve a rifle from a drop point, leaving the rifle
in a bush, Messages related to visually watching the area
where a rifle was left, and a message referring to
having left the rifle wrapped in a towel. The messages

(54:08):
also referred to engraving bullets and a mention of a
scope and the rifle being unique. Messages from the contact.
Tyler also mentioned that he had changed outfits. I know
there has been speculation as well as to the writing

(54:28):
on those casings, those bullet casings, and I believe we
have that as well, and I'll share that with you now. So,
the area north of Campus Drive Road where the suspect
crossed over, you saw some of that in the video

(54:48):
that we released last night, consists of a grassy area
with trees on the edge of the UBU campus. Investigators
discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a dark colored towel.
The rifle was determined to be a Mouser Model ninety
eight thirty out six thirty six caliber bolt action rifle.
The rifle had a scope mounted on top of it.

(55:09):
Investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casings found
with the rifle. Inscriptions on a fired casing read notices
bulge's capital wo, what's this question mark. Inscriptions on the
three unfired casings read hey fascist, exclamation point, catch exclamation point,

(55:32):
up arrow symbol, right arrow and symbol, and three down
arrow symbols. A second unfired casing read oh belli chow
belachow belichow chow chow.

Speaker 10 (55:45):
And a third unfired casing.

Speaker 4 (55:47):
Read if you read this you are gay LMAO.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
I want to stop for a second because the bellichow
belachow is a statement that many I guess groups around
the world. You have said because of the anti fascist movement.
So that was what that meant. And I do want
to point out something real quick. We are going to
have Jason Hanson on the podcast Tuesday. Jason Hansen is

(56:12):
a friend and he is an XCIA officer. He's one
of the most well known I guess you can say
CIA officer. He's been on Oprah, he's been on kind
of everybody. He's going to be on the podcast with
us Tuesday evening, which we will be releasing where we
can break this some of this stuff down a little better,
just from a expert's opinion on the shooter, on the plan,

(56:33):
on all of this. And so I just want you
guys to know Tuesday night we will have a Jason
Hanson CIA officer or XCI officer on the show. Let's
listen to some more.

Speaker 12 (56:44):
We are indebted to law enforcement across the state who
has worked seamlessly together local law enforcement, state law enforcement,
and our federal partners with the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
We're grateful for everyone who work together in such a
short amount of time to to find.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
This person and to uh and to bring justice.

Speaker 12 (57:11):
I want to thank the public who has been so
engaged reviewing, reviewing videos, helping us with sending in tips,
and helping us get to this point. I want to
thank uh the the family members of Tyler Robinson who
did the right thing in this case and we're able
to bring him into law enforcement as well. I especially

(57:38):
want to thank the family of Charlie Kirk, Erica, Charlie's parents,
his children. I want us to be thinking of them
as we bring justice in this case. They will be
involved in that justice. We will be working very closely
with them as we move through this process as well.

(58:00):
This is a very sad day for again for our country,
a terrible day for the state of Utah. But I'm
grateful that at this moment we have an opportunity to
bring closure to this very dark chapter in our nation's history.
With that, I will now turn the turn the microphone
over to the director of the FBI, Cashpitel.

Speaker 10 (58:27):
Thank you, Governor. This is what happens when you let
good cops be cops.

Speaker 19 (58:33):
The FBI and our partners are proud to stand here
today together to bring justice to the family of Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 10 (58:39):
In honors memory.

Speaker 19 (58:40):
I want to express my deep gratitude to President Trump,
the Vice President and the entire White House who have
been so incredibly supportive with both resources and just personally
to the FBI as a team. They had our backs
the entire way, and I just want to express my
gratitude for giving us the resources we need to operate
in this space to bring this sort of justice at
this speed. In thirty three hours, we have made historic

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progress for Charlie. Governor Cox, our partnership has been absolutely
incredible these last few days.

Speaker 10 (59:12):
Our partnership will endure.

Speaker 19 (59:14):
Your state and local partners, your sheriffs, your DPS, community
has been unbelievably impressive in the hardest of times. In
a case like this, cannot be solved, cannot be brought
without partnering with your state and local authorities. The FBI
has a certain role to play, and we will play
that role, and we will lead out for the federal government.
But Governor Cox, we are so grateful for your state

(59:36):
partnership that let out on this investigation. A little bit
of the timeline. Charlie was shot at twelve twenty three
pm on Wednesday. The first FBI agent's aren't arrived on
scene in sixteen minutes, with chiefs of police at twelve
thirty nine and secured the scene.

Speaker 10 (59:54):
The FBI immediately launched fixed wing assets.

Speaker 19 (59:58):
We utilize these assets to transport or personnel, specialty technicians,
hasa's rescue teams. We also utilize these assets to go
back and forth from the East Coast and here in
Utah to transport forensic evidence and other evidence that will
be analyzed and is being analyzed at our FBI laboratories
in Quantico and other laboratories including the ATF and my direction,

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the FBI released the first set of FBI photos of
the suspect at ten am local time on nine to eleven,
then shortly thereafter, the FBI reward of one hundred thousand
dollars was released at ten forty five am Local myself
and Deputy Director Bondino arrived on the scene at approximately
five thirty pm on nine to eleven.

Speaker 10 (01:00:39):
The Governor led up press conference.

Speaker 19 (01:00:41):
Last night at approximately eight pm, where in my direction,
the FBI released a never before seen video of the suspect.
We also released new images to the public of the suspect,
and just last night, the suspect was taken into cust
a ten pm Local time. In less than thirty six hours,

(01:01:05):
thirty three to be precise, thanks to the full weight
of the federal government and leading out with the partners
here in the state of Utah, Governor Cox, the suspect
was apprehended in historic time period. And I want to
highlight what Governor Cox said, This would not have been
possible without you the media and you the public. That's
why we went so public so fast, and we're so transparent,

(01:01:27):
and we're committed to that transparency. The crime scene just
a little bit there. It is a large crime scene.
State and local authorities along with federal authorities, process that
crime scene quickly, and I even had the.

Speaker 10 (01:01:43):
Ability to walk through.

Speaker 19 (01:01:44):
That crime scene and walk through the steps the suspect
took to learn more about what was needed and what
resources we need to brere to create a full picture
for the FBI and leadership back in Washington. Furthermore, thankfully
to state and local partners for forensic evidence has been
seized and continues to be garnered. Forensic evidence has already

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been evaluated FBI laboratories in Quantico and state.

Speaker 10 (01:02:07):
Local authorities here.

Speaker 19 (01:02:08):
We will continue to process evidence as we see it,
as we collect it, and we will continue to deliver
to Governor Cox and his team. Last night, we had
a total of approximately seven thousand interviews excuse me, seven
thousand leads. As of this morning, thanks to your great work,
we have over eleven thousand leads that were called in
to the FBI, and we.

Speaker 10 (01:02:29):
Are running out every single lead that we can. Every
one of those leads will be run out.

Speaker 19 (01:02:36):
The arrest is a testament to dedication of good law
enforcement being great and partnerships in law enforcement, which I've
tried to highlight as my tenure at.

Speaker 10 (01:02:45):
The director of the FBI.

Speaker 19 (01:02:47):
There is no better relationship for law enforcement than the
FBI to partner with state and local authorities, and you've
seen it here in these.

Speaker 10 (01:02:54):
Last few days.

Speaker 19 (01:02:56):
The FBI Salt Lake Field Office, along with our offices
in La Phoenix, Denver, San Antonio, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, Buffalo,
our headquarters component in Quantico, all participate in the FBI.
I want to express my deep gratitude to the employees
of the FBI, the men and women, the Evidence Response Team, tacticians,
the special operators, the agents, the support staff. You have

(01:03:19):
done monumental work in historic time when the public who
had a right to demand such an expeditious solving of
an investigation. The FBI answered that call diligently, critically important
to our nation, and we delivered. And I'm proud to
be their leader, and I'm proud to be the director

(01:03:40):
of the FBI. This is a very much an ongoing investigation,
as the governor said, and we will continue to work
with state and local authorities to develop the investigation, to
provide them the evidence they need for their ongoing prosecutions.
And we will be here to answer every call they
absolutely have, as long as it takes, for as long
as we need to find an APPREHENDI who whatever suspects

(01:04:02):
were involved in this crime. Lastly, to my friend Charlie
kirk rest now, brother, we have the watch and I'll
see you in Valhalla.

Speaker 20 (01:04:24):
Thank you, and good morning. I would just like to
take a few minutes, as the sheriff to express my
gratitude for everybody who has played a part in this investigation.
As you know, it's been a vast complicated and a
very very fast paced investigation. You're looking at people standing

(01:04:45):
up here who are running on If they got an
hour's sleep in the last couple of days, they're probably lucky.

Speaker 10 (01:04:52):
It has been very taxing.

Speaker 20 (01:04:54):
It has been so impressive of speaking on behalf of
the local law enforcement to see the cooperation that we've
seen in this type of case across the state. Sheriffs chiefs,
our state partners have stepped up and have come to
the call on anything that we needed. Our county chiefs

(01:05:16):
have been phenomenal. Our Utah County Attorney Jeff Gray, who's
standing up here with us, has been phenomenal in leading.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Us through this investigation.

Speaker 20 (01:05:27):
I would like to thank the federal government for their
re sources, their assets, our local team here, our FBI
team has been extraordinary and helping us work through this
and bring this person to justice. Most of all, I
would like to thank the public, and specifically I would

(01:05:50):
like to thank the public who turned to prayers and
who turned to positiveness for us. I would like to
thank them on half of the law enforcement community, because
we needed those prayers.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
That's what we needed to get through this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
We needed your support and you.

Speaker 10 (01:06:07):
Gave it to us. We needed your patience and you
gave it to us.

Speaker 20 (01:06:11):
And I would like to thank you for the Kirk
family because that's what they need is your support and
your prayers, and that will get us through all of this.
So thank you everybody, for everybody that have stepped up.
We've had such a phenomenal response to this. Thank you.

Speaker 19 (01:06:32):
I also want to give a special thanks to the
Attorney General and the Department of Justice. Their unwavering support
and their commitment to justice is shown true here and
without ag Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche and
the resources they brought to bear, we not have been
able to complete our mission. And I just want to
say special thanks. It's an honor to be a part
of the Department of Justice.

Speaker 12 (01:06:57):
Thank you again to our incredible law enforcement team who
has worked so hard. Share if I got a solid
ninety minutes last night, so I'm probably the most well
rested person up here. Wadies and gentlemen, I get the microphones,
So I hope you will permit me a moment just
to share a few more thoughts about where we are

(01:07:18):
and how we got here, and maybe a little bit
of where we go from here.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
I don't want to get too preachy, but I think.

Speaker 12 (01:07:27):
It's important that we, with eyes wide open, understand what's
happening in our country today.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
I've heard I've heard people say, why are we so
invested in this?

Speaker 12 (01:07:41):
There's violence happening all across our country, and violence is
tragic everywhere, and every life taken is a child of
God who deserves our love and respect and dignity. This
is certainly about the tragic day assassination political assassination of

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Charlie Kirk, but it is also much bigger than an
attack on an individual. It is an attack on all
of us. It is an attack on the American experiment.
It is an attack on our ideals. This cuts to

(01:08:24):
the very foundation of who we are, of who we
have been, and who we could be in better times.
Political violence is different than any other type of violence
for lots of different reasons. One because, in the very
act that Charlie championed of expression, that freedom of expression

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that is enthrined in our founding documents, in having his
life taken in that very act makes it more difficult
for people to feel like they can share their ideas,
that they can speak freely. We will never be able
to solve all the other problems, including the violence problems

(01:09:10):
that people are worried about. If we can't have a
clash of ideas safely and securely, even especially especially those
ideas with which you disagree. That's why this matters so much.
Over the last forty eight hours, I have been as

(01:09:33):
angry as I have ever been, as sad as I
have ever been, and.

Speaker 6 (01:09:44):
It was.

Speaker 12 (01:09:46):
As anger pushed me to the brink, it was actually
Charlie's words that pulled me back. I like to share
some of those and specifically right now, if I could,
I need to talk to the young people in our
in my state, and all across the country. As President
Trump reminded me, he said, you know who really loved

(01:10:08):
Charlie the youths. He's right, young people love Charlie, and
young people hated Charlie. And Charlie went into those places anyway.
And these are the words that have helped me. Charlie said,

(01:10:30):
when people stop talking, that's when you get violence. He
said that week can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute
of the strong. The only way out of the labyrinth
of suffering is to forgive. Welcome without judgment, love without condition,
forgive without limit. He said, always forgive your enemies. Nothing

(01:10:56):
annoys them so much. A few months ago, I referenced this.
Last night Charlie posted to social media. When things are
moving very fast and people are losing their minds, it's
important to stay grounded, turn off your phone, read scripture,
spend time with friends, and remember.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Internet fury is not real life. It's going to be okay.

Speaker 12 (01:11:20):
He again said, when you stop having a human connection
with someone you disagree with, it becomes a lot easier
to commit violence. He said, what we as a culture
have to get back to is being able to have
a reasonable agreement, being able to have reasonable agreement where
violence is not an option. Now, again, to my young

(01:11:43):
friends out there, you are inheriting a country where politics
feels like rage. It feels like rage is the only option.
But through those words, we have a reminder that we

(01:12:04):
can choose a different path. Your generation has an opportunity
to build a culture that is very different than what
we are suffering through right now, not by pretending differences
don't matter, but by embracing our differences and having those
hard conversations. I think we need more moral clarity right now.

(01:12:25):
I hear all the time that words are violence. Words
are not violence. Violence is violence. There is one person
responsible for what happened here, and that person is now
in custody and will be charged soon and will be
held accountable. And yet all of us have an opportunity

(01:12:50):
right now to do something different. I want to thank
my fellow Utahns. You know, this bad stuff happens. And
for thirty three hours I was I was praying that
if this had to happen here, that it wouldn't be

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one of us, that somebody drove from another state, somebody
came from another country. Sadly, that prayer was not answered
the way I had hoped for, just because I thought
it would make it easier on us if we could
just say, hey, we don't do that here. And indeed,

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Utah is a special place. We leave the nation in
charitable giving, we leave the nation in service every year.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
But it did happen here, and it was one of us.

Speaker 12 (01:13:47):
But I want you to look at how Uton's reacted
the last two nights. There was no rioting, no looting,
there are no cars set on fire, there's no violence.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
There were there were visuals and.

Speaker 12 (01:14:10):
Prayers and people coming together to share the humanity. And that,
ladies and gentlemen, I believe is the answer to this.
We can return violence with vin violence, we can return
hate with hate. And that's the problem with political violence,
is it metastasizes because we can always point the finger

(01:14:32):
at the other side. And at some point we have
to find an off ramp or it's going to get
much much worse. But see, these are choices that we
can make. History will dictate if this is a turning
point for our country, but every single one of us

(01:14:53):
gets to choose right now, if this is a turning
point for us, We get to make this decisions. We
have our agency, and I desperately call on every American Republican, Democrat, liberal, progressive, conservative, maga,
all of us to please, please, please follow what Charlie

(01:15:20):
taught me. I'll just conclude with words I share often
from a friend and author, Eve Alvin, who was asked
if he was optimistic about our country, and.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
He said, I'm not optimistic. He said, I hate optimism.

Speaker 12 (01:15:37):
God, that sounds bad, but he said, he said, optimism
is a vice. It's this idea that good things are
just going to happen. And he said, in the history
of the world, good things have never just happened. He says,
I'm not optimistic, but I am hopeful. And hope is

(01:15:59):
the virtue that sits between the vices of optimism and pessimism.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Hope is the idea that good things are going to
happen because we can make them.

Speaker 16 (01:16:09):
So.

Speaker 12 (01:16:11):
I still believe in our country, and I know Charlie
Kirk believed in our country. I still believe that there
is more good among us than evil, and I still
believe that we can change the course of history. I'm
hopeful because Americans can make it. So, ladies and gentlemen,

(01:16:33):
we're happy to answer.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
Any question you mightam.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
There you go. That was Spencer Cox, the governor of Utah.
I think he had an amazing speech. I think he
could not have said it any better. And as he says,
you know, is this going to be a turning point
for our country? Well, we don't know that yet. Is
it going to be a turning point for good or bad?
We don't also know that yet. But is this going

(01:16:56):
to be a turning point for us? And I think, guys,
if you have listened to this show so far, you
understand that there are so many people that I think
this is becoming a turning point for them, Yes, And
is it going to become a turning point for you?
Regardless of how we go forward in this country and
how we respond to this as a nation, and how
we respond to this as either Christians or conservatives, or

(01:17:18):
or just people that care about other people. You don't
have to be a conservative to be moral. You don't
have to be a conservative to love other people to
do things for them, right. You just have to be human.
You have to be you have to resist evil. And
I think that you know, it's just like with the
Charlotte stabbing of the young lady from Ukraine, you know,

(01:17:41):
and how they're trying to call it a he was schizophrenic.
I don't buy it. I think he's evil. I think
there are a lot of people that are evil, and
their number one defense when they commit these heinous crimes
is based on the uh trying to convince the core
or the people to believe that they are psychotic or

(01:18:03):
they have some type of mental issue. But how far
does that actually excuse their crime and what they did.
This guy took a life, and from what I'm already hearing,
the defense sounds like they're already planning for They know
that it's likely not going to be very good for
them because they have not only confessions and witnesses and

(01:18:26):
videos and pictures and all this stuff. So now they're
going to try to go with an insanity plea and
this is like the get out of jail free card. Typically,
it's like, if you don't want to be put to
death based on you killing someone else, go insanity plea.
And so what we're hearing right now is that potentially
the defense is already kind of starting to plan this.
You basically have no other option, especially with all the

(01:18:48):
evidence that is build up against you, and so they're
going to try to go insanity. But at what point
is insanity insanity and or evil? And I think that
with this guy, he was evil. I think I think
with the Charlotte stabbing guy, he was evil. Regardless of
the reasoning, whether it be political, ideology, race related whatever,

(01:19:08):
evil is evil and good is good. And I do
think that we have to have a turning point in
this country right now. And I don't know one hundred
percent what our next steps forward are. I don't know
how we move past this as a country, but I
hope and I pray, and I think they're already seeing
this is that it's waking a lot of us up.
It's inspiring a lot of people that maybe we're sitting

(01:19:32):
on the fence, or we're lukewarm, or we're just people
that said don't I don't know. I don't know if
it's I don't know if it's the right thing for me,
or or because this person thinks maybe if I say this,
or or I believe in Jesus or I believe in this,
I don't want to offend them. I'm more concerned about
what they think than what Jesus thinks or what God thinks.

(01:19:53):
And we can't be like that, you know. One of
the things that we're going to close with. The last
thing we're going to close with is Charlie Kirk. And
I think this is a brilliantly laid out piece, and
the core foundational values of what Charlie Kirk believed is this,
and it is what is grace? And how is grace defined?

(01:20:15):
And how should we all live our lives based on
our beliefs, and especially when we're around evil?

Speaker 5 (01:20:23):
What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
It's grace? But what does grace really mean?

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
Guys?

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
We're going to close it out with this. We obviously
could talk about this for hours. We just did an
episode about this two days ago. We are thankful that
a suspect is in custody. We are thankful that God
is speaking through people, not necessarily people, but through Charlie.

(01:20:47):
God does not let this go to waste, and he's
not going to Charlie was a warrior. He was someone
that battled for the right cause. And Cherry, I know
that you had this written down, but you were talking
about Valhalla. And there's a lot of people on social
media right now the saying, oh my god, I can't
believe that. You know, Cash Mattel said I see you

(01:21:09):
in Valhalla. But they weren't military.

Speaker 11 (01:21:11):
But that's just the same thing that's happening right now, Like,
let people say what they want to say, and if
you would disagree, disagree nicely, like who cares what he said?

Speaker 8 (01:21:23):
Well, I just to understand.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
But it's people like Dan Bilzirian and and all these
people that are like, oh my god, I can't believe
he said see you in Valhalla. He's not military. Well,
let me explain what Valhalla means. When someone says see
you in Valhalla to someone who has passed, they're drawn
on Norse mythology or a Viking tradition, which means literally
the hall of the Slain. It was believed to be

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the great hall in Asgard, ruled by Odin, where warriors
who died bravely in battle were taken by the Valkyries.
There they would feast, fight and prepare for reaganok, the
final battle of the gods. So in modern terms, basically
this says see you in Vaha is like saying I'll
see you again in the afterlife in a place in
honor reserved for the brave. And I do believe that

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Charlie Kirk was brave, and I do believe that he
was a warrior. And you don't have to necessarily wear
a United States military uniform to be a warrior. You
don't have to wear a police uniform to be a warrior.
Each and every single one of you right now that
is listening to this podcast can be a warrior. And
I'm not saying by taking a gun and going to
shoot someone on the other side. I'm literally saying that

(01:22:29):
you can be a warrior for God, or be a
warrior for the right, your consciousness, your soul, your morals.
You can be a warrior every single day. Don't be
afraid to speak out, don't be afraid to speak up,
and don't be afraid to deny what you in your
heart and your soul believe. Because I don't think at
all that's going to do your soul any good. You're

(01:22:50):
gonna feel You're gonna feel desperate, you're gonna feel defeating,
You're gonna feel beaten down, You're gonna feel depressed. And
you know, it's one of the things that I think
has also affected me over the past six months to
a year. The reason why I felt depressed, the reason
why I felt beaten down, is because I've been battling
this this this battle where God's like, hey, I want you,

(01:23:10):
I need you to be a part of my warriors.
But like, you're not waking up like I want you to,
and You've got to open yourself up to let God in.
You know, God can't perform all miracles. He can, but
he's not going to just all of a sudden make
you a better person. He's not just going to all
of a sudden make you a Christian. Just like the

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same thing that Spencer Cox said, the governor of Utah.
You know, optimism is saying that hopefully everything will be good.
But hope is saying that I hope that things will
be good, and I'm going to work for those things
to be good. I'm going to do things in my
life every single day to represent and reflect good because

(01:23:53):
without doing that yourself, that's like saying that I'm going
to wake up every day and hope I make millions
of dollars. That's just not going to happen. You've got
to do something for that to happen. And that is
where the difference in optimism and hope transcend. But that's
also the difference in what Charlie Kirk's is about to
explain about grace. And we're going to close that with this. Guys,

(01:24:16):
we hope you all have an amazing weekend. I know
it's been a tough week for all of us, especially
in the United States, but I think it's affecting a
lot of people around the world. And it's not just
Charlie Kirk. We're gonna pray for all of you. Pray
for us because I think that we definitely, we obviously
need to, just like you guys do. We're a family here.
Hopefully this draws us all together rather than a part

(01:24:37):
and I truly do care about each and every one
of you, everybody that listens to his podcast, everyone that's
stuck with us for so long. You just can't imagine
how much it means to us. When you guys respond
or interact with us or listen to our episodes, it
means the world to us. It truly does. And you,
guys are the entire reason why we do this, because

(01:24:59):
we just want to to do our very best to
serve you, but most importantly serve God in the bigger mission,
which is truth. And so we will close it with
Charlie Kirk till next time. Guys, we love you. Peace up.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
I get believers.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
It's very simple.

Speaker 6 (01:25:13):
You're gonna have a court date. We all die, and
you're all gonna meet the supreme judge of the universe.
Justice is getting what you deserve, which is going to
a not so good place. We're all sinners and we
all fall short of the glory of God. But thanks
to the Cross, a perfect, loving God who came down
in human form human flesh, lived a perfect life and
died for us so that we can live forever. At
that moment, we're about to get that sentencing into eternal damnation.

(01:25:34):
Somebody says, no, no, no, I know him, I know her.
Welcome to eternal life. You have an opportunity. The gospel
in four words is Jesus took my place. Three words
is him for me. Two words is substitutionary atonement, and
one word is grace. Grace you cannot earn, grace you
do not pay for. It doesn't matter how much money
you give to the hospital, you can't earn it. It
doesn't matter if you're a good person, it doesn't matter

(01:25:56):
if you have always done the best you can.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Because what's different.

Speaker 6 (01:25:59):
About Christianity is that it's a gift for all of
humanity to receive, regardless of everything that we have done,
and your life will be transformed, you will be born again.
Grace is not earned, It is given by a God
who loves you and wants to spend eternity with you.
It is the most important decision you can make in
your life.

Speaker 1 (01:26:19):
Here I am God.

Speaker 4 (01:26:20):
Bless you guys, Thank you so much.

Speaker 21 (01:26:31):
In thing.

Speaker 7 (01:26:36):
O, thing.

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
Ewe.

Speaker 9 (01:26:42):
You working working for the Guy.

Speaker 22 (01:27:06):
Those you called according to your purpose for the Gud,
those you called according to your plan.

Speaker 21 (01:27:17):
Well, you are work. You are working for the Guy.
You are work. You are working for the Guy.

Speaker 22 (01:27:33):
In all things and all things.

Speaker 21 (01:27:42):
Scenes.

Speaker 9 (01:27:44):
You're working does working.

Speaker 21 (01:27:47):
Does all things scene?

Speaker 9 (01:27:59):
You work and working.

Speaker 21 (01:28:02):
Out for the God.

Speaker 22 (01:28:07):
Those you call according to your purpose for the God,
those you call according to your plan.

Speaker 21 (01:28:19):
Well, you are work. You are work for the good.
And you are work. You are working for the God.

Speaker 10 (01:28:34):
We will trust, we will trust in you.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
We will trust we uil se you. We will trust.
We will trust is you. We will trust you will
see you mo.

Speaker 14 (01:29:05):
For the guy.

Speaker 23 (01:29:09):
Those who called according to your purpose, for the gud
those who called according to your plane, and for the God.

Speaker 9 (01:29:24):
Of those who call according to your.

Speaker 22 (01:29:27):
Purses, for the guy those you call calling to your plane.

Speaker 21 (01:29:36):
You are work. You are work for the guy.

Speaker 22 (01:29:43):
You are You are workin