DC National Guard Shooting | CIA-Backed Afghan Shooter? - Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:26):
It was a out of this town.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
It had a really nice fog.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
I was about the fucking.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
But you. Hello, and welcome to Investigator of podcast. I'm
a host chat alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode,
we're opening with a story out of Washington, DC that
has left, obviously the country stunned. The two National Guard
members on duty near the White House were suddenly fired
on in an attack that took the life of a
young soldier and left another critically injured.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
It happened in broad daylight and one of the most secure.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Areas in America, and the circumstances surrounded it continue to
get more complicated as information comes out. What stands out
most is the background of the ACU shooter. He wasn't
just any recent Afghan evacue. Reports indicate he served in
one of the CI supported paramilitary units during the Afghanistan War,
a group trained, equipped and guided by US intelligence, and

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now he's here in the US capital opening fire on
American soldiers. It raised his serious questions about what he
was involved in, who influenced him, and whether he acted
alone or is a part of something much larger. Maybe
that has not happened yet. Guys, welcome to the show.
It is November of the twenty eight, twenty twenty five.
The name of this song is Mayflies and the Fade
and Sun and Happy Thanksgiven to everyone in America. For

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those non American listeners, then you missed out because Thanksgiving
is very nice. It's a good time to eat with
family and friends and turkey usually.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Even though we had our.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Thanksgiven last weekend, we actually have been traveling for about
a week and so my Thanksgiving was ribs and beef
and macaroni cheese and stuff like that. It wasn't the
typical American Thanksgiving. It wasn't a turkey and stuffing and
all of that stuff. And then we did have something.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
But we did go to Cracker Barrel on Thanksgiving our
Thanksgiving dinner. And I know now why they got so
mad at changing the little symbol or the of the
cracker barrel old man, because I told Chad when we
were there, I just wanted to take pictures of everyone
because they represent the southern demographic. I guess the degree

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cracker barrel.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, it was a cracker Barrelday, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
No, we actually it was funny because we were traveling
yesterday during Thanksgiving and got back in and we're like,
you know what, we want to try to eat some
Thanksgiving I mean, like a typical Thanksgiving meal.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
And so we did see dressing, macaroni, cheese, mashed potatoes.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, we went in Cracker brow and it did not
necessarily disappoint, although you know, they had their like special
Thanksgiving meal that you can and really change the side.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
You can do this.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
So it turns out I actually didn't need Thanksgiving it
Cracker Barrel. I ate chicken and dublins, which is what
I always get from Crackerberrell.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
So I did get the turkey and dressing and it
was great. The sweet potatoes to flay not so much now,
but it was still nice to have a Thanksgiving dinner
since we didn't get to cook this year.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah for sure. But yeah, we've been traveling.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
We are actually in the process of moving or relocating.
I guess you can say we are finally going to
get out of the area that we are in. We've
been here for a while and we don't love it
that much and we want to be closer to the beach,
to a tropical environment. So that's what we have been
actively searching for this past week, and of course while

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we were there, so much was going on. We've not
done a podcast probably in like a week, in a
couple two or three days, but we do promise you
guys that December is going to be packed with content
because we have so much to talk about. There was
so much that happened while we were gone, and we
actually even did bring our podcast equipment, our road travel
equipment with us, but we were really just so busy

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down there and it was kind of good to just
kind of disconnect from everything for a little bit, not
really think about too much. But you know, I still
found myself on X on the Internet kind of looking
up what was going on, and especially like the last
two days, because we'd actually thought we were coming back
a couple of days earlier than we did, and so
when we had thought that, I started kind of researching,

(04:24):
just looking up what was going on.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I saw the Canvas situation where Candas is talking about
that the France government or French government is is plotting
a assassination on her. Obviously, that drew a lot of
attention from all of the I guess you can say
typical influencers out there calling her crazy, calling her a psycho.
And what we do know is, I guess she did
send all of this information that she had received from

(04:49):
someone inside. I guess the France government of this assassination
attempt to the White House and to the DOJ. They did,
I guess at least say they did have receipt this,
although they I don't believe right now have valid or
I guess verified any of the claims. But we're waiting
to see what happens with that. We may do a
podcast on that in just a bit. But we also

(05:11):
have three i AT lists which we will probably be
talking about tomorrow. There's a lot of new developments on
this craft, and I'm going to start calling it maybe
a craft because the more and more information that we
receive from this from actual I guess you can say
scientific led groups, or these astronomical groups or astronomical groups

(05:31):
other than NASA, We're starting to see a lot of
things that do not add up with a typical comment.
This is something that we had been seeing over the
past couple of months, obviously, when people like Auvi Lobe
and all of them were saying, look, this has a
lot of characteristics that do not look like a typical comment.
And so now there are things that are coming out
that look even a stranger. So we're going to talk
about that tomorrow. Could this be alien life? Could this

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actually be looking more and more like alien life or
some type of advanced craft that is, you know, kind
of cruising through our solar system. And there was some
kind of crazy news that just came out today, And
I think they're about to announce something tomorrow about this
that I think might change and shake up everything we
thought we might know about the three Atlas situation. So

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bear with us and stick with us. We will have
that episode out tomorrow. But for this episode, we had
two National Guard soldiers that were shot in broad daylight
in Washington, d C. By someone from Afghanistan. Now you
might think that you know from the get go, and
this is the first thing I thought.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Obviously. I was like, is this the false flag that
we had been waiting on?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
And we had been talking about this for a few months,
and I had said, look, you know, there's likely going
to be a false flag coming I And there's various
reasons for that, but that was one of the things
I've been talking about for a few months. But the
more I kind of looked into it, and you know,
especially just trying to see how the maintream media is
talking about it, how they're gauging this. Obviously, the right

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is going to use this against the Democrats because of
the open borders, because of what the Biden and Harris
administration allowed in across our borders during their term from
twenty twenty to twenty twenty four, you also had this
program called Allies or Allies Welcome, which is actually how
this guy was brought into the country. You might say,
what is allies welcome? Well, allies Welcome is pretty simple. Actually,

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in Afghanistan, the US military, along with the US government
and the CIA, they actually contracted people groups and I
mean in some cases even kids as young as fifteen
and sixteen years old. They would essentially train these people
to be killers. And there was a group called the
Zero Unit or the Afghan Zeros. Now what the Afghan

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Zeros are or they are a Deak squad.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Some of you might.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Remember the contracted groups like Blackwater and Armor Group and
some of these other I guess militant or not militant groups,
but I guess I can say mercenary groups. The United
States actually contracted to go over to Afghanistan in Iraq,
and a large part of the reason why it sounds
like the United States government did this in countries like
Afghanistan and Iraq is because they wanted to get away

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with things that the US military could not get away with,
which is basically outside of the Geneva Convention. And the Geneva
Convention obviously just has the guidelines and rules of war
that the US military has to operate under for moral
and ethical reasoning from you the greatest country in the
world being the United States or America. But how did

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the military or government, not military, but specifically the government
and intelligence organizations or agencies get around that.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, they utilized.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
These mercenary groups such as Blackwater Armor Group and others
very similar to Wagner Group in Russia. When Russia wanted
to do some very heinous, very horrific shit, they would
send in the Wagner Group so it wouldn't necessarily represent
Russia as much like the Russian military, and also the

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Russians knew that, you know, look, we we have a
lot of these soldiers that are not going to do
a lot of this very very unmral things, you know,
like that we need done in certain situations, and so
what they would do is they would contract and hire
the worst of the worst, Like, who are the people
that we can find, the murderers, the rapist, whoever we
can find basically has no soul and no morals. Let's

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hire them, train them to be killers, give them and
provide them all the weapons necessary to do so, and
then let's send them in the war zones where it's like, well,
that's not US, that's not the Russian military. I mean,
that's some you know, outlier group. Same thing the United
States does. And the United States did this also in
Afghanistan with the Zero Group or the Zero Unit, which
were made up of Afghan nationals, more specifically Afghan Army

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guys that were already trained in military type roles. But
then they would take the worst of the worst of
the people that they thought that they could, you know,
kind of shape and mold into the.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Most ruthless killers you could possibly have.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
So if you talk to a lot of US milielitary
members that worked alongside, for example, either of the Afghan
Army or even Blackwater in armor group. But let's start
with Afghan Army, the Afghan Army, and I talked with
a couple of people sharing I did before the show,
and especially military members.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
I said, you know, you guys worked with the Afghan Army.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
And so I said, what was your kind of situation
with that, Like, what did you think about the Afghan Army?
How different were they than isis? What was the role
that they, you know, kind of completed in the operation,
not just what was the operation in afghanist So anyways,
after two thousand and one, after the nine eleven attacks,
what was their role? And all of them basically said

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was the military essentially trained a lot of the Afghan
Army and they were, I guess, in some ways allies
to the United States of America. But if you ask
most service members, all of them will tell you although yes,
they were supposedly our allies and we trained them, there
were many times that they also killed us, So you
couldn't ever trust them. I mean, this was not a

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situation or people that you wanted to trust.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
And the reason of being.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
And I'm just saying it straight from military members mouths
that had been there, done that. The reason is because
religion in most cases always outweighs whatever the loyalty or
the trust value or whatever your connection with this group
of people is. There was still extremists in the Afghan Army,
and oftentimes their religious values or whatever they believed, especially

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about the US military, would always come out over their
loyalty to the United States military.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
And when you talk about their loyalty to our military,
why would they have loyalty to our military? Then they
would be granted asylum.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Yes, most of the Afghan Army, or especially these zero
units that we trained and we sent out there in
the battlefield alongside US military, we promised them all these things,
and one of the particular things we promised them was
asylum inside of the United States. And this is what
I'm talking about when Biden let in many of these
people in twenty twenty one on Allies Welcome.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
This was this special plan.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
And the reason being because of this is because we
knew and you know, look, if you're going to train
these people to fight against Taliban and Isis, then obviously
if we just leave all those guys behind, then they're
going to be killed.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
I mean, Taliban's going to kill them. Isis is going
to kill them.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
They're going to know who worked with who, and so
this guy that shot these two national Guard members in Washington,
d C. Was a part of the zero unit, and
we'll talk about in detail what the actual zero unit was,
but first I want to talk about what we know
so far about what happened in Washington, d C. The
shooting of the two West Virginia National Guard members in

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a nation's capital left a lot of questions unanswered. Official
state of suspect and Wednesday's attack isn't Afghan national and
some details have been released about the two Guard members,
one of whom has died. The motive for the attack
was not clear, and here's what we know. One National
Guard member has died. President Donald Trump announced that Thursday,
this specialist Sarah Beckstrom twenty died from her injuries, and

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staff Sergeant Andrew Wolf twenty four was in very critical condition.
Governor Patrick Morsey of West Virginia said Friday, I want
to go ahead and say that number one, we pray
for both.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Of these soldiers.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
It really kind of took me back yesterday when I
was talking to my friend and found out that Sarah
had actually passed away. I think she was just sworn
in a couple of days before, and I just want
to pray for both of their families. You know, Sarah
at twenty years old is now dead on the day
of Thanksgiving. And what a heart wrenching thing to go

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through on Thanksgiving to lose your baby of twenty years old.
And I am praying for Andrew Wolfe's family as well,
and I hope he does pull through. So they were
deployed as a part of Trump's crime fighting mission that
involved taking over the District of Columbia's police department. Beckstrom
and Wolf had been on orders in Washington since August.
According to the West Virginia National Guard, Bextrum of Somerville,

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West Virginia, had volunteered to ensure the safety and security
of our nation's capital.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
The Guard said in a statement.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
She graduated from Webster County High School in June of
twenty twenty three and enlisted that month, serving with distinction
as a military police officer. The Guard said she exemplified leadership, dedication,
and professionalism. Wolf of Martinsburg, West Virginia, entered service in
February of twenty nineteen. He graduated from Musselman High School
in twenty nineteen. Say Carla Troupman, a spokesperson for Berkeley

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County Schools, now Principal Alicia Rigglemann described him as an active,
engage and high achievement student who was embodied the Appleman spirit.
Contributed positivity to our school community, both academically and athletically.
Now janein Birou, the US Attorney in Washington, said the suspect,
ra Malana Lacnwall, drove from Washington State to launch an

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ambush style attack with a three fifty seven Smith and
Wesson revolver. A video re reviewed by investigators showed the
assailant came around the corner and immediately started firing at
the troops. According to Jeffrey Carroll, Executive Assistant Police Chief,
service members ran over and held down the shooter, who
was taken into custody. He said authorities believe he was
the only gunman. Carol said that it was not clear

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whether one of the guardsmen or a law enforcement officers
shot the suspect, but the suspects womans, were not believed
to be life threatening, official said. Now the suspect and
his pathway to the US now Lock Andwhall twenty nine
entered the United States in twenty twenty one through Operation
Allies Welcome. Official said the Biden administration program evacuated and
resettled tens of thousands of Afghans after the US withdraw

(15:30):
from the country. Now Lock Andwall applied for asylum during
the Biden administration, but it was approved during the Trump administration,
Afghan evak Is said in a recent statement. Supporters have
said there was extensive screening and the program offered a
lifeline to people at the risk of Taliban reprisals. The
initiative brought roughly seventy six thousand people to the US.

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Many had worked alongside the US troops and diplomats as
interpreters and translators. The program has drawn a tense criticism
from Trump and other Republicans over what they have argued
our gaps in the screening process and the speed of admissions.
Now before arriving in the US, he'd worked with the
American government, including the CIA, as a member of a
partner force in Kandahar, Afghanistan. CIA Director John Ratcliffe said

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Ratcliffe did not specify that work, but said that the
relationship ended shortly following the chaotic evacuation of US service
members from Afghanistan. A resident of Eastern Afghan province of
Coast who identified himself as Lackenwall's cousin, said Lackenwall had
worked in a special Afghan Army unit known as Zero Units.
A former official from the unit, Sai Lackenwall was a

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team leader and his brother was a platoon leader. Both
spoke on condition of anonymy because of the sensitivity of
the situation or the fear of reprisals. Now Zero Units
were paramilitary units with Afghans but backed by the CIA.
They also served in frontline fighting with CIA paramilitary officers.
Activists had attributed abuses to the units. They provided security

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around Cabal International Airport in the Afghan capital as the
Americans and others fell back during the Taliban offensive. Now
there is an article on Rolling Stone about who the
actual Zero Units were and they essentially called this inside
the CIA's secret Afghan Army and it says it was
nearly midnight in February twenty twenty one when Nasir and

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Dar's team of soldiers pinpointed the location of the suicide
bomber's house behind a police station in Jalabad, a city
in eastern Afghanistan. They crept up to the gate and
called up the rest of the assault force. Who would
then surround the target and capture him. And Ar ordered
the Afghan soldier to climb a ladder and call the
target out to surrender. The house was in the urban
area and a firefight of suicide bomb would cause a

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civilian casualist. As the soldiers made his way up, and
Dar noticed a newer soldier on his team standing in
front of the gate. That's not a place you want
to be right before an assault. And Ar, who in
short but stout with shaggy black hair, jogged over to
the soldier and told him to get to the side
near the wall just in case the terrorists opened fired
through the g eight. The two of them then took
two steps toward cover. Suddenly, the soldier who had reached

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to the top of the ladder yelled, someone's coming out.
They're going to open the gate, and Ar looked up
just as the man heading to the gate detonated an explosion.
The explosion flung and Dar into the air, and he
landed in a heap. Stunned by the blast, and Dar
knew he was alive because of all the screaming and gunfire,
but he couldn't fill his legs. He patted his thighs
and shins to confirm both legs were still attached and

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wiped his eyes. Blood poured from shrapnel wounds and both
shoulders and his face. He flexed his left hand but
couldn't move his right one. All around him, Zero Unit
soldiers with their CIA advisors exchanged fire with the terrorist
and Ar was stuck in the crossfire. Pushing the rifle
ahead of him, he crawled toward cover. He made it
about sixty feet into a clear and before collapsing. And
It quotes, this is the last moment he remembers thinking,

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before passing out, I'm not going to make it. Andar,
who grew up in Ganzhi Province, had been working with
the American military for around fifteen years since he was
eighteen years old. His team was part of a secret
Afghan paramilitary unit led by the CIA called Zero Units
because of their numeric designation one, two, etc. There was
no other Afghan unit on the battlefield with the same

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training or equipment as the Zero Units. Trained by American
Special Operations soldiers, they acted as the CIA's secret army,
carrying out some of the most dangerous missions of the war,
targeting Al Qaeda and ISIS. Leaders plotting to attack the US.
According to CI officials who served with the units, often
members of the Joint Special Operations Command, including still Team six,

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would be a part of the missions to call in
air strikes, but the bulk of the fighting was done
by the Afghan soldiers led by ground branch officers by
the CIA, and Ar rosen the ranks, becoming a commander
and eventually moving to the CIA zero unit compound in Jalalabad,
where he did intelligence work. That's how he wound up
being wounded by a suicide bomber that day. Soon other

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wounded soldiers collapsed nearby, including a unit medic, Andar tried
to help his teammates but passed out because of the pain,
only to wake up with a CI advisor standing over
him shouting, you're going to be fine, You're going to
make it. And Ar wasn't convinced. He thought about his
new family, how a son would grow up without his father,
his wife a widow. He faded in and out of consciousness,
waking again with medics started chest compressions. The third time

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he came to, tourniquets were on all four of his limbs.
He was so cold and Ar learned later he was
declared dead after he stopped breathing, only to be saved
when a medic noticed his tongue was twisted and opened
the airway. And Ar's last memory was the helicopter ride
to the hospital to the base outside of Jalalabad. Today,
standing in his apartment in San Antonio, it is impossible
not to notice Andar's service etched in his flesh. His

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right arm and torso bare jagged scars shaped like crescent moons,
caused by bursts from an AK forty seven rifle. His
stomach and chest are a patchwork of pink and white
shrapnel scars from the suicide bomber. His arms and his
legs tell the same brutal tell. Amid the scars, there
are tattoos that mark a crude, faded reminder of his past.
On his shoulders is the Afghan national flag, the symbol

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of a country he fought and nearly died for. His
left arm is marked with a shill with the cross,
swords and wings the Afghan National Strike Unit Crest and
he says, we paid the highest cost. He tells me
every family lost someone one, two, three, maybe five brothers
from each family. I lost two family members. I'm not
even the same person anymore, but I have to act
like I'm whole, like I'm strong. I covered the war

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in Afghanistan for seventeen years, and the Zero Units were
cloaked in legend. I first encountered them in two thousand
and five at a small US Special Forces based tucked
in the Hindu Kush near Asanabad. I stood outside the
operations center talking to some of the Green Berets when
I saw a group of Afghan soldiers wearing night vision
goggles line up vehicles with a raid. The night vision
peaud my interest because you didn't see it on Afghan

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troops at the time. I asked one of the Special
Forces soldiers, who is the Afghan soldiers were?

Speaker 2 (21:44):
He shook his head.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
This wasn't a conversation he wanted to have with a reporter,
He says, I don't know what you're talking about, he said,
a few years later, I spotted the Zero Unit soldiers
again at Camp Chapman, near coast on the Pakistan border.
Again I was told by a Special Forces operation soldier
not to ask questions about them. By then I had
heard about the secret Afghan Army, the only news about
their operations came in the aftermath of the killing of

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a terrorist leader or in the accusations of war crimes.
Even now, US officials cannot officially acknowledge the connection between
the Intelligence Agency and Zero Units, and it quotes we
paid the highest cost. I am not even the same
person anymore. But for the Afghans fighting with American Zero Unit,
slots were coveted because of the better pay, better training
than the chance to work alongside elite US operators. In

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later years, there were also opportunities to immigrate and resettle
in the United States after at least one year of
service and a US government recommendation. In the final days
of the war in twenty twenty one, roughly eighty one
thousand Afghan immigrants, including almost ten thousand members of the
Zero Units, alongside with many of their families, were evacuated
by the CIA and resettled across the United States now,

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according to reports, and many were promis special immigrant visas
for their service, visas meant for Afghan and Iraqi nationals
who worked directly for the US government. So close to
forty five hundred living in the United States who are
still waiting for secure legal statuses because of paperwork delays
from the federal government. While the war in Afghanistan has
been forgotten by most Americans, and our story offers a

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rare glimpse through the eyes of of Afghan who believed
in the promises made by Americans to bring freedom and
opportunity to his country. Unlike his American counterparts who fought
the war in three months to one year deployments, and
Ar was in harms way every day for fifteen or
so years that he volunteered to fight to Taliban. Now
thirty seven years old, he has a new country and
mission to help his fellow veterans acclimate to a foreign

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land as he mourns the loss of his homeland. No
one just joined the Zero Units. Soldiers had to be
recommended by a close family member or friend who vouched
for their loyalty, and are initially served in two thousand
and seven with Special Forces before joining Zero Units in
twenty twelve after his brother referred him. Unlike other Afghan
units infiltrated by the Taliban, Zero Units never suffered an

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insider attack when Afghan soldiers were radicalized turned against US advisors,
which former seep I officers say was byproduct of a
strict vetting program. Zero Units were like a scalpel, pursuing terrorists,
targeting at the highest level.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
They mainly operated at night.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Their war was a series of high stakes raids against
targets making car and suicide bombs, and terrorist leaders with bodyguards.
When the Zero Units went out, they had a better
chance than their counterparts to get into a fight, which
which left them wounded or killed. And he says, we
were fighting for freedom and our sas we were fighting
for our land, for our flag, for our dignity. We

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were fighting for our rights and for our humanity. We
didn't want our soul to be used to hurt anyone else.
We wanted Afghanistan to stand on the same level as
other countries, to be respected, to be trusted. We wanted
Afghans to walk through the world with the same kind
of pride and recognition as everyone else. Despite high praise
from both US Special Operations and CIA case officers, the
Zero Unit operations were surrounded by significant controversy. Media reports

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and human rights groups documented the unit's tactics, particularly in
the coast and Nagahar A provinces, including allegations of war
crimes in twenty eighteen New York Times publisher report focused
on a devastating impact of these forces on civilian populations.
While the Zero Units fought militant groups such as the
Haikani Network and ISIS, their tactics raised serious concerns about

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human rights abuses. Civilians reported brutal attacks, torture, killings, and
property destruction. Many of the abuses, such as night rays
and executions, were attributed to the loser rules of engagement
and operational secrecy that characterized the missions. Human Rights Watch
documented several abuses between seventeen and nineteen, including targeted rays
that killed civilians, such as the shooting of innocent family

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members during nighttime operations. In twenty twenty, story the Intercept
called the Zero Units one in particular, death squads. The
Unit raids resulted in the death of at least fifty
one civilians, including women and children, according to their report.
In twenty twenty two, Pro Publica published a story that
the Zero Units operations led to hundreds of Afghanistan civilian deaths.

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There frequently carried out in remote villages where many innocent
civilians were caught in the crossfire. Critics argue that the
Zero Units operations, far from helping to neutralized terrorist threats,
often made enemies out of ordinary Afghan families. And moreover,
critics say the Afghan government either lack capacity or political
will to investigate, and the US military largely ignored the
issue because the zero units worked for the CIA. Now,

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this story can go on, and the thing I want
to just point out for a second here, and we
got to you know, if you want to talk about
like conspiracy, right, let's talk about conspiracy for a minute.
Because the one thing that we have talked about so
much on this podcast, especially during the Biden Harris administration,
obviously when the border was wide open, and we had

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talked about just the possibility of the amount of people
that hated the United States of America that could obviously
come right across the border and enter the country illegally
and risk harm to our country. That is what we
talked about for four years. But then come to find
out that the Biden administration, because of Operation Allies Are Welcome,

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brought in like eighty thousand of these people during twenty
twenty one to twenty twenty three. Now this was during
the Biden and Harris administration. So not only did you
have a wide open border with any and everyone that
could have possibly came in. But you literally brought in
eighty thousand zero unit operators and we're talking about the

(27:25):
most ruthless of the most ruthless Afghan nationals that were
special operators that even if you ask many service members
that said do you trust the Afghan Army or do
you trust the people that you trained or worked alongside, most.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Of them would tell you absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, we trained them, but you know there were people
that have told us in the military that said because
of a lot of that is the reason why today
I still don't trust anybody that I know personally, because
you can get close to a lot of these people,
especially if you work alongside them, you trained them. But
then also knowing that a lot of these people turned
on our military in many cases, So then what Biden

(28:04):
Harris is going to bring in the most ruthless of
the ruthless that the CIA trained to go out and
kill supposedly just ISIS members or terrorist leaders, but we
also know that they killed many civilians and we don't
actually know how many they killed. But these are people
that do not have in most cases, the same values
or morals or just structure of life as Americans do

(28:29):
they you know, not to get too much into, you know,
the Muslim thing, but yeah, they are Muslims. They you know,
when you talk about religion, religion in most cases in
that area is the number one most important factor of
their lives and their relationships and everything else. And in
most cases a lot of the Afghan nationals are especially
the Afghan nationals that are in the Afghani Army. You know,

(28:52):
they are fighting for Allah more so than in some
cases they're fighting for their country. And when you think
about this, a lot lot of the ISIS members and
even Taliban, a lot of them came from the Afghan Army.
I mean, it's kind of like the way you would
find any terrorist group. Think about how many you know,
military members come from different countries and then go out

(29:14):
and create paramilitary groups, you know, because they are trained,
they are the extremist. That's what happened with ISIS, That's
what happened with Taliban. I mean, for God's sakes, the
CIA essentially created ISIS, and then the CI also created
the zero units, which we then brought all of them
into the United States. And then now that Trump is
in office, I just find it interesting. You had all

(29:36):
these Democrats start coming out, which they're calling the Seditious
six now, and they're all doing these these viral videos
where they're coming out and saying, hey, military, you don't
have to obey Trump's orders if they are illegal orders.
Now I understand illegal orders, but it seems like what
they're trying to do is start a coup. But then
think about as we've also talked about, Sherry, I'm sorry
this is long winded.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
I had to read the article. I had to kind
of get up my point here.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
But then think about how we've talked about the CIA
being a large part of the deep state. Right, we
know that Trump and whoever, just because you have John
Ratcliffe as a CI director or or anybody that might
be on your side at any given time as a director,
do you really know what's going on in the CI itself?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
I think that in large part, the CI themselves are
the deep State, and I think that they operate for
and on behalf of some type of globalist operation. We
don't exactly know what it is, but I just think
that now if you think the CIA is the deep
state or has these connections to where they're really the
ones controlling the government and calling the shots. Now they

(30:42):
have their own army inside the United States, potentially eighty
thousand strong of Afghan zero Unit Desk squad members.

Speaker 3 (30:49):
And an army with no rules.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, but think about it. Could they
activate these people inside of the United States. And this
is just one instance. And I'm not even saying that
all of those people in this Afghan army or sorry,
in the Zero Unit group are terrorist or extremist, but
I don't think people realize how brutal the Zero Unit

(31:12):
Group was.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, and it kind of reminds me of this movie.
And I don't know if you're going to remember the title,
because I don't remember it, but it was a movie
where this guy was in the military and he was
in Afghanistan and he had a translator and that translator
went through like a lot of shit with them, and
they both got wounded. He was never allowed to have
weapons or anything like that. He was just simply there

(31:34):
to be the translator and that was it. You know.
They didn't trust him to have weapons. He was just
there to do his job and they had to protect him. Yeah,
so they both end up getting injured. And basically, long
story short, they both saved each other's lives. And the
American military guy gets out, and this was a true story.

(31:56):
It gets out, and he vowed he was going to
go and get that translator and bring him back to America.
And he went through hell in high water to even
get him back.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Now I'm not saying this guy is the same guy
as the Zero unit. I think the zero unit is
a more brutal unit that was actually trained to kill.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Yeah that they were, they were there to kill.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, but I'm saying some of the people from Afghanistan
were there to do delicate jobs like translating. But I
think in this unit, this was a brutal unit. And
you know they say that they vetted all these people
that came in. Did they vet them or did they
just let them in? Obviously the CIA worked with them closely,
they trained them.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
So yeah, but think about this too, Sherry, Like you know,
if you say allied, you know, allies are welcome, operation
Allies are welcome, And you know that you brought in
this mini zero you know it it was either forty
thousand or eight thousand whatever I just read there, but
say it was even forty thousand. You're bring in forty
thousand zero units into America, and you, as CIA realize

(32:58):
how you train these people, you realize how brutal and
the shit that they did in Afghanistan. Yes, and you're
going to bring these people in. I mean I understand that, like, hey,
we use them to help us, especially with our operations
in Afghanistan.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Romiss them freedom in America.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, but like how dangerous is that really though?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I mean, and although yes, this is only one case
right now, but it did cost the lives or one
life so far, and hopefully Andrew Wolf pulls through. I
know he's in very critical condition right now. But it
did cost the life of one National Guard soldier that
was just trying to do her job in Washington, DC.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
And what were they even armed?

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Yeah, I think some of them were. I think they
had side arms. I think maybe all of them were.
I think they did at least have handguns. But either way,
you know, you have forty thousand these people in the
United States and if they were controlled by the CIE,
then who's to say that maybe they're not controlled by
the ci Now now, I did just want to play
a quick clip from Fox News where they actually talk

(33:56):
about this. So this is not a conspiracy theory. The
zero Unit stuff is not any of that. They're even
talking about it now on Fox News, CNN and the
rest of the mainstream media, and I think I think
the reason why they're having to is because something they
thought something was going to get out. Now we'll talk
about the false flag thing in just a bit, but
let's first talk about this here.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Let's play this clip real quick. Here you go.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
You know, he was part of this CIA backed elite
Afghan unit, and this right now I shows some details
where they operated in Afghanistan, but also the vetting process.
Supposedly they went through biometric screenings, in person interviews, which
is very interesting and lockin Wall's connection here. He was

(34:40):
assigned to this three unit, recruited and trained by the
CIA to fight against the Taliban. Known that this group
also rebecca known for their brutality and called death squads.
So you take that last point there that I just
said right that they're known as these death squads quite

(35:00):
and that this man also went through one on one interviews,
So we understand what's your takeaway there? Could something have
been missed in that process?

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Well, it's very disturbing, and this is such a tragedy.
We're going to learn more, but I'm reminded that in
twenty eleven, an Afghan Air Force colonel walked into an
office at North Kabo Airport and blew up eight US
Air Force service members and a contractor that was an ally.
The risks here are just very, very large, and that's

(35:34):
why I'm really glad the President is going to go
and look at other cases. And we must keep an
eye on this radicalization of Islam and this threat that
frankly now is inside our borders.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
You know, there's been reporting that those who knew the
suspect when he was younger said that he had mental
health issues because of what he witnessed in Afghanistan. So
you got to wonder, without painting all of the people
who are here from Afghanistan with one brush, whether or
not there are others though, who could possibly be suffering
the same type of issues.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, I mean our own veterans have PTSD.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah, and then take these guys, the zero units that
were trained by CIA. Yes, they were brought over to
the United States, but you also have to remember that
and I'm not saying that all Afghanians are bad, because
I don't think they are, and I think anybody that's
listening to this podcast knows. I don't think all of
anybody is bad. But what I am saying is at
the very least is that we do absolutely have very

(36:31):
distinctive religious views and beliefs. Of the people in Afghanistan,
I mean they are Muslim. We well, some of us
in the United States are Christiana all like even with UK.
You know, UK is forty percent Christian, I believe they say,
and then there's forty percent.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Like non religious. Yeah, and so in.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
The United States also, it's starting to become that, you know,
divide between Christians versus non religious. But now, you know,
the more and more people that kind of come in
to the United States or America that are like a
very distinct religion like Muslim or whatever it is to
where the Muslim religion do and especially if we talk
to US service members, you know, their religion came first

(37:10):
over anything, over loyalty, over the fact to.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Them, religion, yeah, very stern religion.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
You know, just because you became friends with some of
these guys, you still could never trust them there because
it's just a different it's a whole different in culture,
it's a different world, it's a different everything.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
And you've got to imagine too, these guys are in
it for a lifetime. This guy started at fifteen years
old and it never stops for him. Our military servicemen
they go over for maybe six months to a year,
and then they're taken out.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Of there, like the Marines are usually seven months, and
I think armies like a year.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
These guys are here for the whole lifetime. He's been
there since he was fifteen years old, fighting these wars. Yeah,
and you've got to remember what that does to your
mental state.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Well his I mean, you know, there was a lot
of people that said that they believe, you know, especially
other zero Unit members that you know, media or whoever
is talked togative journalists. A lot of them feel soless,
They have no soul and you almost have to.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Kind of sell your soul.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
And when I say to the devil, but it's like
the CIA, and in some cases, you know, the devil
and CIA kind of work hand in hand in some
of these situations, and especially when you're in situations where
you're killing innocent civilians and this happened very often, you know,
and it's just like I've talked to US service members
that worked alongside Blackwater to where they would go through
streets and kill innocent people just for a laugh because

(38:30):
it was cool, which is why Blackwater changed our name.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
They never really went away. They changed their name to X.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
I believe it was after everybody kind of found out
about all the HAINUS shit Blackwater was doing.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Yeah, they just changed their name and their LLC or
whatever so they could get away with it. Somore.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, but then I think eventually they went away. But
it doesn't matter. The United States military and other militaries
and governments around the world are always going to use
these mercenaries because then if they use mercenaries they can
get away with a lot of shit, then the military can't.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
And I agree with you as far as like the
CIA using them on our benefit. But you also have
to think about where their allegiance are. You know, their
country is in Afghanistan, and his allegiance is probably to
Afghanistan over the United States.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Yeah, and that concerns.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
Me a lot because that brings in conspiracy theories that
go through my mind is did somebody get to him
over there? Other terrorist groups, other militia groups, over there
that are saying, if you don't do this, we're going
to kill your family or you know, all kinds of
crazy things could happen.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, they could be black meled. Because you know, we
don't even know where this guy's family is living. We
do know that at least his brother, I guess is
here in the United State and he was one of
the main leaders in this Zero Unit, and so his
brothers in San Diego. This guy was also a leader
in some capacity in the Zero Unit. But you know,
keeping in mind, as we've already said before, there's between

(39:56):
forty and eighty thousand of these Zero Unit members inside
of the Unit States.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
And we're talking about brutal killers.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
We're talking about brutal killers that were potentially killing hundreds,
if not thousands of people in Afghanistan. And now you
have these people inside of the United States in a
very different culture, with a government and military that has
done a lot of shit in Afghanistan and Iraq that
has made a lot of people in the Middle East
hate America. I mean, there's reasons why the death to

(40:22):
America chance are they're paraded through the streets in these places,
and so can you trust these people especially the zero
units that are inside of the United States.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Trump needs to do something about this.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
And obviously, as the story talked about, although yes, Operation
Allies are welcome, was I guess done and brought over
during the Biden administration. I guess some of the visas
have been actually approved under the Trump administration. Whether or
not that is an oversight Trump didn't see it, who knows.
But obviously Trump needs to be going back and looking
into that. So I did also want to talk about

(40:54):
this too. Yeah, so Seth Harp wrote the book called
the Fort Bragcartel, which I if we would have had
more time to try to get him on the show,
but you know, he had actually posted and he said,
not trying to promote my book off the horrible shoot
in DC. But I did write a lot about the
criminal client state the US created in Afghanistan, which was
the drug addicted to Afghan killers on the CI's payroll,

(41:15):
and how it's beginning to blow back on us in
the form of statewide violence. What he is saying here
is that these zero units were essentially cartel members. You know,
if you think about the Mexican drug cartels, well, the
zero units and what the CI created in Afghanistan was
probably the biggest drug cartel in known history ever to exist.

(41:36):
I mean, we're talking about much bigger than anything you
see in Mexico. Not only that, but they were CI
and Special Forces trained. They were running heroin for the CIA,
and they were ruthless, and many of them also were
drug addicted.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
And I was surprised when we were talking to some
service and men about that. They said that was the
biggest industry in Afghanistan. It was the heroin industry, and
they had some marijuana too, But what the troops would
do over there was give them seeds to grow corn
or different crops to try to get him away from
the heroin industry.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yeah, and then you know he had also talked about
Seth Harper earlier this year. Jamal Wahlee, another Afghan mercenary,
brought to the US after Kabu Fell, shot a cop
in Virginia. There's a video actually out there online and
it says traffic stop leads to fatal police involved shooting.
This was when another zero Unit member shot a police
officer point blank. But as the police officer was coming

(42:34):
up to his vehicle, he was seeing all these things,
like white people I'm so sick of these damn white
people and all this stuff. He's like, you're about to
find out basically today or whatever. And he was obviously Afghani.
But the guy pulled a gun shot the cop point blank,
and this is what we're going to experience. But I
think the scarier thing here, in my opinion, is is

(42:54):
that are we going to see an organized movement by
this group and not just an organized movement on their
own behalf. I'm talking about could and would the CIA
use these guys for death and destruction inside the United States,
because we've seen it before, you know, you talk about
the false flag thing. We do know at the very
least that the shooter's name was looked up and researched

(43:18):
prior to the attack. So there was a spike in
searches of this person's name in the hours before the attack,
and that.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Means that people who knew that this was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
We're searching to see if this had been completed, Was
this task completed? A noon ci asset, who was a
trained member of this unit, was searched prior to the attack.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
This name was searched.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Now there is also some stuff out there about, you know,
the Sarah Beckstrom service member that actually died. There is
also a report there's literally like one of the number
one trending videos on x right now is that if
you look up here, I'll just read it to you
right now, if you look up National Guard and then

(44:01):
you look up CI or just National Guard in general.
One of the first posts that come up on X
and it's literally got over three and a half or
four million views. It says she was googled in Israel
before the shooting. In the name of Sarah Beckstrom, the
National Guard member murdered by Afghan CIA assets in DC
was googled by someone in Israel days before the shooting.

(44:22):
Now is this true or not? Well, I don't know.
I had looked it up on grok. I'd seen all
this stuff. There allegedly was one or two searches maybe
in Israel before this happened. There was also some other
searches in other Middle East countries. So I'm not saying
this is Israel. I'm literally just saying that this post
has almost four million views. Now, there is officially a

(44:44):
community note on here now, and so what the community
note says is Google trends is it fully reliable for
exact data, real time data, or absolute accuracy. It has
been proven that the same early search data appeared in
results of countless countries from Albania to Aruba, making the
aim completely irrelevant. So I did want to point that out.
And the reason I want I want to point that
I always always want to be fair. Obviously, there is

(45:06):
no evidence whatsoever this guy was at all tied in
any way, shape or form to Masad or to Israel,
and so I wanted to make that very clear, because
the number one post or one of the number one
posts when you look up nasalguard Cia or any of
this stuff, is trying to tie this shooting to Israel.
And do I believe that's the case. No, I do not.
As of right now, I don't think this is reliable,

(45:27):
although I did go pretty much deep in detail with
Grock to try to see is this reliable or is
this not groc At first try to tell me, I said, well,
is what Google trends is saying here?

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Is this true?

Speaker 1 (45:39):
And it says no, And then but then towards the
end it said, well, is there's nearly no searches before
the shooting of her name?

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Well, too, nearly.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
I mean, she could have been pinpals with somebody in
Israel or something, you don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I don't know maybe, but even still.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
But then the other search Google trend I guess thing
was also the look up of the shooter within the
Washington DC are Now this is more prominent than obviously
the Israel thing. There was multiple searches allegedly according to
Google trends, a day or two prior to the shooting
of the shooter within Washington, d C. And so that

(46:18):
leads you to the question is like, why would someone
be searching this exact person in Washington, D C.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Unless they kind of had been following this guy.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Maybe they saw communications about he was going to do this,
or maybe he was traveling to Washington, D C. And
so maybe they had searched them things to see if
there was any record of this. If there was anything,
maybe maybe did he complete the attack yet, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
It's just weird.

Speaker 7 (46:42):
Now.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Obviously you also had the what.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
They're calling the seditious six right, and you're having these
Democrats that have come out in Unison and they have said, look,
you know, for military members, don't follow Trump's orders. A
lot of people were saying, Hey, this is going to
be a coup attempt, and this is what Alex Jones
had to say. I'm going to play Alex Jones because
you know, I don't always agree with what Alex says.

(47:04):
Sometimes he becomes a little hyperbolic about some of the
conspiracies or whatever, but he does have close connections General
Flynn in particular he's talking about in this quick video,
which own a play and we'll break it down in
just a second.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Here you go.

Speaker 4 (47:18):
Two weeks ago, on my syndicated broadcast, General Flynn, the
former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency, predicted that in
the coming months or even weeks, the deep state CIA
elements Outlly of the Democratic Party with communist Shina Venezuela
and others, will begin triggering sleeper cells inside the United States,

(47:41):
particularly Islamic. I'll post the interview below. He was on
my broadcast yesterday and pointed out that all the evidence
is clear. We've all said whistle blowers that have talked
to Jesse Waters and others at Fox from inside the
CIA that this whole program with the Seditious six and

(48:04):
the script they have met they were given. Brennan's the handler,
former of the CIA. For my analysis, this whole operation
they've been running of saying implying Trump's putting out illegal
orders is ahead of major events to destabilize the United
States with different paramilitary forces, and then when Trump tries

(48:27):
to call it the military, the corporate media would already
preplanted the idea that his orders are illegal. This is sedition.
This is the prep phase for a violent coup, and
I've been predicting it along with General Flynn as well.
This is a very very serious time right now. And

(48:47):
now we know as you see below, it has been
released by CI director Ratcliffe. Laura Logan has posted the
information and she's got incredible intel connections. I'll just leave
it at that that this guy was part of a
CIA strike force and that's what his ID says in Afghanistan,

(49:08):
and of course her husband's been deployed over there forever
and was a leading commander. And there's also a very
good source of information on that front. So this is
a major message to Trump. This is a probe. This
was just literally hundreds of feet away from the fence
of the White House and it was in me more

(49:29):
of this, So people better get ready.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
It's very, very very very very serious.

Speaker 4 (49:37):
Of course, Biden brought one hundreds of thousands of these
people into the country and they need to be deported.
The media trying to spin it now because the trumpdministration
approved one level of his asylum last year, but that's
just because that's part of the larger process that Biden
set up. And now those policies need to be reversed

(49:58):
and they need to go in and kick out all
of these paramilitary Afghans, even if they quote work for
the CIA, but this guy clearly is working for these
very elements. Remember John Brennan is a Muslim and a communist.
He brags about it. People always are blown away by that.
I mean, look about people's brags about it Inairbent and

(50:23):
they're working with these different terar networks and they use
them as a covert army and they're gearing up the
drug cartels and others to recavoc in the stations. General
flyn didn't just predict that. He has sources that give
him the chatter and the informations being picked up, and
I'm getting that for other law enforcement intelligence sources as well.

(50:43):
So I'm very very sad for the two National Guard
soldiers that were shot.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
You know.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
The governor of Westfinna came out where they were deployed
from it said they were dead. Now there's conflicting reports.
We'll continue to watch this as an unfold, but everybody
needs to put their head on a swivel and we
don't need to give into this intimidation of the left
wants the troops off the streets because they want the
crowd to be high. They want to be able to
launch their civil war and bill it as George Floyd
two point zero, a heavy race based. But the dog

(51:09):
is gonna hunt because we've been ahead of the curve,
been exposing their plans before they do it.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
All Right, there's Alex Jones. Some of the things that
I want to I guess touch on with what Alex
is saying. And this is just my opinion on this.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
But we as.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
America, we have a rogue group. I believe in this government.
I think that we've had it for a long time.
I think that you know you, I'm not necessarily saying
that the heads necessary you know, under the Trump administration
are actively participating or involved in seditious or whatever type

(51:49):
activities that we're referring to here. But when you think
about the and I got to touch on this just
for a second, because we've got to think this all
the way through. When even you think about the Epstein
files for example, to where we thought for sure that
we were going to get to Epstein files or we're
going to have transparency, we didn't get that. And the
one thing that I wish that Trump administration would have

(52:11):
done during this process to ensure my security and my
peace of mind with who we have in office right
now as a fighting force against this deep state militia
which we have inside of America right now.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
And we're talking about I'm not just talking about you.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
Know, globalist Claus Schwab, these old dudes. I'm literally talking
about operatives. I'm talking about CIA operatives that are within
the CIA, our most advanced intelligence agencies, maybe DARP, but
maybe other dark military forces that are in our government
that have been commanded and are commanded by generals that

(52:50):
are against Trump or against America.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
You know how many of these generals, for.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Example, that the Biden and Harris administration, which was a
puppet administration. Keeping in mind you have I had President
Joe Biden, which was s now. The entire presidency, everything
that he did was through an auto pin He had
no comprehension of what the hell he was doing as
president of the United States. Kamala Harris certainly did not

(53:17):
like what was set up during that four years leading
up to Trump's administration, Like what was set up in
the background of this, How much organization happened and was
planned behind the scenes, How much CIA and FBI and
whoever else, how much were they involved in not only
taking the people that we trained as death squads in

(53:38):
Afghanistan to go after the most ruthless of terror members
in Afghanistan and Iraq and all these other countries like
Syria and Iran and you name it. But we literally
brought all those people which are the most ruthless killers,
the zero units that went after the most ruthless people
in the Middle East, the people that literally cut off
American's heads. They shout a la acbar before they blow

(54:02):
themselves up right in front of our service members. I
know service members that have suffered the rest of their
lives after their war in Afghanistan because.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Of these people.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
But the CIA and the US government trained zero units
that were to be more ruthless than even the most
ruthless in the Middle East. So what did we do
with those people? Well, we brought them to the United States.
The CIA and the Biden administration brought them over. They said, hey, guys,
come on over, forty eighty thousand of you. We can

(54:35):
use you, We can use you. Do you really think
I mean, let's just think about this. Do we really
think the CIA and Biden and Harris and the US
government really cared so much about these people that we
used in the Middle East that we wanted to just
bring them to the United States because of their loyalty
and how good of people they really were. Do you

(54:55):
really think that's the reason why the CIA and the
US government brought those people to the United States. Do
you think it was just like, oh, Operation Allies are welcome.
Let's just bring all these good people in. They're very
good people. I mean, all they did was just kill
innocent people and just all the most ruthless people in
the Middle East. Let's bring them over here because we
know they love America. Like we know they love America.

(55:19):
Although you know, we see death to America being chanted
in the streets and we have for years over there,
and you know, you can ask also many service members
like did they agree with everything that happened in Afghanistan
and Iraq? No, a lot of service members didn't agree
with everything that happened in the Middle East while they
were there. But it doesn't change the fact that we
literally brought in the most ruthless killers that the CIA

(55:40):
trained into America. And most of those people obviously are
from Afghanistan. They are from the country that we destroyed.
In many cases, probably our military our government killed their
family members. And if we didn't kill them, isis killed
them because of we were there. So do you think
that all these people we brought in love America? Do

(56:01):
you think they're just are here like, oh my, do
you think they're flying the American flag?

Speaker 2 (56:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (56:05):
I don't. And that's why I don't one hundred percent
believe that they're still on the side of the CIA.
I almost feel like their loyalties could change, you know.
It's just like when we were talking to service members,
they said they didn't trust anyone over there, and they
certainly didn't trust them. And then when they trained them
to be hired killers, basically they could turn around and

(56:26):
kill them. So if they could turn around and kill them,
the people that trained them how to survive. Why would
they not come to America and kill us, not because
of the CIA, but because their allegiance to their countries.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Well, it's the same situation I believe as nine to eleven.
And I'm not going to get too much in a
nine eleven. We actually have someone from Architects and Engineers
that's going to come on our podcasts very soon when
we finally do our extensive nine to eleven episode. But
you know, it's not like the CIA and the freaking
government didn't know that these people really or most people

(57:01):
that were in the zero units didn't actually like America.
I mean, their loyalty at the very least was either
to their religion or to their country. It was never
to America and it was never to the US military.
So do you really not think the CIA, the most
advanced intelligence agency in the world, know him how ruthless
these people were, how soulless they became because of what

(57:21):
the CIA put them up to. And maybe they weren't
like that in the beginning, But you also have to
remember if you're if you're contracting or recruiting these people,
training them at fifteen years old, who do you become.
It's like It's like if you train a pit bull
to be a fighter when he's a year old or
six months, what are.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
They going to be? You think that they do?

Speaker 1 (57:41):
You think that you can then go assimilate a pit
bull that has been a fighter that hates dogs all
of a sudden, you're going to assimilate them with other dogs.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Right, But so, what do you think the point of
bringing them over here? Was it for the CIA to
makeations on America and kill Americans or was it to
provide them asylum?

Speaker 1 (58:03):
No, I don't think it was to provide them asylum.
I think that this was the deep State bringing in
a rogue army or rogue military unit that they could
utilize for their benefits, for their political gain, and for
their takeover of America.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I mean, I really do, And I hate to say
that because, like, but we also understand the CIA hasn't
been involved in so much corruption. I mean, we think
about the CIA was involved in jfk assassination. That was
a president of the United States, And so you're telling
me that they wouldn't utilize a massive group of the
most ruthless killers in the Middle East to do shit

(58:39):
in the United States.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
They can use it for anything. They could use these
people to kill Trump.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
They could use these people to kill any political opponent
or adversary that they want. They could use these people
to start a civil war in the United States. Because
you know, you also have to think about over the
past a month or so, like in Dearborn, Michigan, for example,
where you have Jacob Lang. Now, Jake Lang was a
January sixth prisoner. You know, I remember probably about a

(59:05):
year ago, we had talked with someone that was Jake
Lang's family member, and I think they had reached out
to us and say, hey, we would like to have
you have Jake Lang on your podcast. We would like
to tell a story about how you know he's been
treated in prison because of January sixth, all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Well, Jake Lane got out.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
He has been in Dearborn, Michigan over the past couple
of weeks.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
If you guys have saw any of.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
The viral clips of all the Muslims in Dearborn, because
there is a lot of I mean it's basically a
Muslim count o.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
And so Jake Lan has been going to Dearborn, Michigan.
He has been slapping bacon on people and throwing bacon
on the Muslims as they're praying in the streets, or
he has been taking the Koran and burning it and
doing all these things, trying his very best. It seems
like anyway to excite something with these Muslims, and he's

(59:55):
been going to He even went to a city council
meeting Orborn, Michigan, and Jake Lange's speech about the Muslims
was pretty horrendous actually. I mean, you know, when you
talk about America first, America first is one thing, But
I still think like freedom of speech is freedom of speech.
I think we should always have freedom of speech. But

(01:00:17):
just because you have freedom of speech, it also opens up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Who you are.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
So however you speak about things, yes, you have the
right as an American to freak, to sorry, to speak freely.
But when Jake Lang went into that city council meeting,
it was almost as if he wanted desperately to excite
violence within that community and the Muslims and everything else.

(01:00:43):
And then obviously it wasn't very long after that you had,
you know, the shooting, Will there be more shootings? Are
we trying to ramp up, you know, some type of
war as people like Jake Lane, They're going to their
going to these cities and and and and doing all this.
Yes it is free, and yes it is I guess
some form of protesting. But it just seems like to

(01:01:04):
me that there is some type of coordinated effort to
start some type of civil war and will to see
I activate those zero units to further that war.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
I don't know, but it's crazy because when we're listening
to the Tucker Carlson and the Pierce Morgan interview, they
were talking a lot about that. How when you have
people come in and assimilate to your country, does it
change your country?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
It does, Obviously it does.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I mean obviously it does, right, And you know, it's
the same thing as if America moved into Iran.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
You know, is Iran government going to be cool with that?
Is the people in Iran going to be cool with that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
And most Middle Eastern countries know because you know, there
is a big distinction in religion when it comes to
the Muslim of you know, religion and Christianity, there is
a difference, and that difference is is that you know,
it is very stern. A lot of Muslims do believe
that not all Muslims. But there is a distinct group

(01:02:04):
of Muslims that believe that you should because of what
the Quran says, and they take it literally in some cases,
that you should eliminate all non believers. I mean, that
is a reason why terrorists in Afghanistan or wherever, when
they blow themselves up and kill Americans or whoever, that
they shout al Akbar. And yes, it is glory to God.
But the reason why they shot glory to God Ala

(01:02:26):
Akbar's because of what their belief is in the killing
of non believers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
That's why that is shouted.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Now, they also shot it in non killing situations as well, right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
But and I get the religious beliefs side of it.
And because of that, do you feel like it could
be a false flag on the other side as well?
Could it? Because I think what you think is maybe
where this happened because they want people to turn against
Muslims again. Maybe who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Well, I don't think that necessarily.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
I mean, I've you know, the problem with me is
is that and look, I've I've definitely got hate because
of people that have listened to a podcast that are
Republicans and they are one hundred percent side with Israel
and everything, no matter what, just like they just like
people do with Trump, right, I mean, it's the same
exact thing. If I criticize Trump in any way, we
get hate. If I criticize Israel, we get hate. If

(01:03:21):
I criticize Muslims, however, never hate. We don't really ever
get hated. Yes we do, yeah, but from Iran maybe,
but like not from Americans in most cases, unless unless
you know, there are some Iranian Americans who live here
and they are like, hey, you know when we've got
messages from some of those are like, look, just because
I'm from Iran does not mean that I, you know,
support the Iranian National Guard or not Iranian Guard, or

(01:03:44):
support the government in Iran, or what their beliefs or
values are. And not all Muslims are bad and not
all Muslims believe this, and I believe one hundred percent
that's true, which has always been also my opinion on Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Okay, so let me ask you another question. Do you
think this could be a false flag that maybe Iran,
Afghanistan Pakistani even have created in order to It's almost
like a reverse reverse psychology kind of thing. I'm thinking
this is this group it's this group. But it's this group.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
I mean, I don't even necessarily think this is a
false flag because it would have been done differently. You
would not be connected to CIA. I mean, this stuff
would not have come out so easily as it did.
There's a reason you got to keep this also in mind.
There's a reason why it came out so easily that
it was CIA tied or connected. Oh, there's a reason
for this. It was leaked, is why. Yeah, but it

(01:04:41):
was leaked too easily, and it was like it was
almost immediate.

Speaker 8 (01:04:45):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
It's like the things they don't want you to find
out about, like Thomas Crooks, still don't know anything about him,
still know anything. We don't know a lot about Tyler Robinson.
We maybe never will. I mean, everybody just waiting on
this trial and always keep saying that Tyler Robbins the
guy that killed Charlie Kirk allegedly. You know, everybody says
we're going to find out everything as soon as choral
comes out. I'm still waiting on the trial to never happen,

(01:05:08):
but probably so. But either way, you know, I don't
know what the actual reason behind this is. What I
do know is that the Republicans are going to use
this to blame the Democrats, and you know, there could
be something that Tim Pole actually had a video. It's
a very short clip, and he was essentially saying, if
Donald Trump, p Hexeth, and DJ do not go after

(01:05:28):
the people that are putting up these messages, this is
the biggest and most impact impactful escalation towards the civil
war we have ever seen in our entire generation. Now,
that is something pretty pretty confident to say as far
as this is the this is the biggest thing we're
ever going to see from a civil war perspective. Here's
what Tim Poole said. Listen, listen, and gentlemen.

Speaker 9 (01:05:51):
Let me just stress that this story that is emerging
may be one of the most horrifying that I have
seen in a long time. You may be wondering what
this image I have on screen is. It is part
of a campaign to create factions within the military to
defy Donald Trump and foment civil war or a military coup.

(01:06:16):
I'm not exaggerating, to be fair to hammer, everything looks
like a nail. But for what purpose have been Democrats
calling on people to quote pick an effing side as
a Senator from Connecticut who said that for what purpose
have been democrats? Have Democrats been calling all of Trump's
orders illegal, dictatorial, fascistic and then calling on service men

(01:06:42):
and women to defy the chain of command?

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
This makes no sense. If it's no big.

Speaker 9 (01:06:48):
Deal the National Guard were deployed to our city streets
and not doing it but picking up trash, why do
Democrats pretend to care? Here's the story. These billboards have
been popping up importedly across the country. It says, did
you go airborne just to poll security for ice? Not
what you signed up for? Dot org? This is illegal.

(01:07:12):
It is a crime. I'm not exaggerating nor being cute.
I have the law pulled up. This is an effort
to foment factions within the military ranks so that they
defy the chain of command, Secretary of War or the
president himself. I'm going to show you exactly where this goes.

(01:07:36):
We're going to pull up this website. But I need
to say this right now. If Donald Trump and Pete
Hegseth and the DOJ do not go after these people
that are putting up these messages, this is the biggest,
the most impactful escalation towards civil war. We have ever
seen in our generation the fact that there are nonprofits

(01:08:01):
being funded with billboard campaigns instructing our metaal mail uniform
to defy the chain of command. And I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna be cute with you guys. We know
the intention. They're not explicitly saying, hey, don't do it,
but you don't get to play this.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Wink wink, nudge nudge. Here's the billboard. You can see it,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
So that was timpoole, and he was specifically talking about
the billboards that we're seeing all across the country. It says,
you saw the billboard, you have questions, you're not along
and this is on not what you signed up for
dot org and it says, but first, here are proactive
steps you can take to reduce risk, and it says
us on the website says, be sure to access resources
from a personal device, not a military or government computer,

(01:08:46):
email account, phone, or Wi Fi network. Use an encrypted
proton mail email account, use the Signal app for encrypted
text and calls, and use a virtual private network or
VPN like NORD VPN.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Resources for service members.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
About face is an organization of service members and veterans
that connect service members who have legal or moral questions
about their mission with peer counseling, legal support, and other resources.
You also have a GI Rights hotline they have set up.
And then you have the National Lawyers Guild Military Law
Task Force. If you click the about face which is

(01:09:21):
about Faceveterans dot org, you have a website that leads
to where it says Veterans taking actions against military militarism
and endless Wars. It says we are post nine eleven.
Military members and veterans organized them to end a foreign
policy of permanent war and the use of military weapons,
tactics and values and communities across the country. As people
intimately familiar with the inner workings of the world's largest military,

(01:09:42):
we use our knowledge and experiences to expose the truth
about these conflicts oversees and the growing militarization inside of
the United States. And this says National Garden Active Military.
If you are a National Guardsman or an active duty
member and you're concerned about the moral, ethical, or legal
implications of your situation, you're not long says use the
encrypted form below to request support exploring your options. So

(01:10:03):
it has a Military support request form. It also has
a Join the Movement to Stop the cycle of Endless Wars.
It has a subscribe They want all of your information.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
They want essentially to talk to you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
They want to tell you about your options, whatever those
options may be, whether that is to try to set
up some type of coup. But maybe that's all hyperbolic.
Maybe what the Republicans are saying or wrong and the
Democrats are saying or right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
The problem with this is is that what the Democrats
are trying to say here is that we can't have
militarization in our streets and we don't want a you know,
obviously a martial law.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
We don't want the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Military that is going to be our police force and
where any faction in government are going to use excuses
based on crime for militarization because listen, the constitution specifically
talks about that. They they protect us from that, because
we do not want military becoming our police force. That
is what happens in China, That's what happens in a
lot of dictatorship type states. But you know, is Trump

(01:11:11):
right and hasn't been right for what he's done with
the National Guard in DC. I think that if you
have a DC that is crime ridden, especially the nation's capital,
and you are the city in president of the United States,
I think it's probably good that you bring in national
Guard if your police forces are not going to obey
the orders of the president.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
And they're not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
And a lot of these police forces are led by
the people that were put in place by Democrats that
want high crime versus you know, safer streets.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
So as president you have to do something. What is
that something?

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Not sure, but they're either putting in they're either trying
to start a coup within the military.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
My question has.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Always also been like how many of these generals and
these high commanders in the military are still in place
after the Biden Henrison administration left.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Now, one thing I've not heard.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
A lot about, especially since Trump has taken office, is
that Trump has fired a lot of generals or a
lot of people that are in high command in the military.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
I've not really heard a lot about that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
So how many of those people are still left, you know,
we know, like General Millie and kind of their power
and influence, especially after January sixth, and especially during the
Trump trials and that that committee that was set up
about January sixth. That was trying to essentially, you know,
burn Trump and the Republicans at the stake. You know,

(01:12:28):
they would bring in their military generals to talk about this, right,
And so I know that probably some of those generals
are gone, but there are also many generals that are
likely in control, not necessarily about the Trump presidence anymore.
But whoever that deep state faction is, how many of
those high leaders in military actually controlled by a deep

(01:12:49):
state authority rather than the President and this administration.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
We don't know, and I almost guarantee you that Trump
and his allies do not know as well.

Speaker 1 (01:12:59):
But I want to play this quick club for everybody's saying, like,
what did the Democrats say the seditious six is as they.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Are calling them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Well, they had went on, you know, this kind of
campaign on mainstream media talking about how, you know, we
got to fight back and you've got to not obey
illegal orders by President Trump and if you think you
are a you know, if you think there are illegal orders,
then you need to fight back against us. And so
this is just a little bit of some of that

(01:13:27):
we've been seeing on mainstream media lately. I'll go ahead
and play this clip here you go.

Speaker 10 (01:13:31):
A lot of people got upset about the video, and
let me just say, they are trying to wield fear.
These videos coming out of places like Chicago. It makes
me incredibly nervous that we're about to see people in
law enforcement, people in uniform military, get nervous, get stressed,
shoot at American civilians. It is very a very very

(01:13:53):
stressful situation for these law enforcement and for the communities
on the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:13:57):
So it was basically a warning.

Speaker 10 (01:13:59):
They are trying trying to wield fear.

Speaker 11 (01:14:01):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
I mean, look, you're going back to Nuremberg, right.

Speaker 10 (01:14:03):
This is about who we are as Americans and how
we're going to engage with people who we disagree with.
They don't want to be talking about the deployment of
the military in our streets, the deployment of federal law
enforcement in our streets. We're about to see people in
law enforcement, people in uniform military, get nervous, get stressed,
shoot at American civilians. They don't want to have that

(01:14:24):
public conversation because they know it goes to the heart
of who we are as Americans as a democracy. Senator
Alyssa Slockett, former CIA officer, I.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Want to speak directly to members of the military.

Speaker 10 (01:14:34):
And the intelligence community can refuse illegal orders. But whether
you're serving in the CIA and know that we have
your back, need you to stand up for our laws,
don't give up the ship.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, so there is some of what the Seditious six said.

Speaker 1 (01:14:48):
And then you also have this posts that says, is
it legal for the CIA to have an active agent
Alissa Slockin perform CIA operations inside the United States remote
civil war? This video was done a few days ago
before she gave orders to her Afghan asset to assassinate
our national Guard.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Now that is obviously a post on x.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
We do not know at all whether she gave orders
to anyone, but she was CIA and she was one
of the ones that has been leading the charge saying
all military, all active duty military, you don't have to
obey Trump's orders.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
She specifically said illegal orders. But whatever, let's listen to
this post as well. CIA officer.

Speaker 10 (01:15:31):
The idea that intelligence officers could be asked to target
Americans turns my stomach, and it would shift us into
a modern day surveillance state. Turning the federal government against
Trump's enemies goes hand in hand with his use of
force in American cities, both federal law enforcement and the military.

(01:15:52):
As of today, the president has attempted to deploy more
than seven thousand National Guard members across five cities, including
right here in Washington. In August, the administration ordered the
creation of two new National Guard units, a standing quick
reaction force that can deploy anywhere in the country, and
then separately National Guard units in all fifty states focused

(01:16:13):
on quelling so called civil disturbances. At this point, Trump
has been very clear about his intent Atquantico. Speaking as
Commander in chief, he instructed his military brass to use
cities as quote training grounds, and many times he's floated
the idea of invoking the Insurrection Act so that military

(01:16:33):
units can raid, detain, and arrest Americans. The President has
already deployed ice and other federal law enforcement to these
same cities across America. In some cases, these federal officers
are playing fast and loose with their tactics, which sooner
or later, could lead to a deadly escalation. The videos

(01:16:53):
out of Chicago are shocking federal agents pulling their weapons
on highways, firing tear gas into neighborhoods right before a
Halloween parade injuring and even killing civilians. Many are masked,
not wearing uniforms, and driving unmarked cars. For those of
us who served abroad, it feels like another country and

(01:17:14):
it's only a matter of time before things get worse.
By my estimation, we're about two weeks away from a
bloody incident that spirals out of control. And this is
just the kind of incident that Trump wants to justify
more force coming in.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
There you go, And so that is supposedly ex Cia
girl what is her name, Alissa slocked in and she
had literally just said this a few days before this
Afghan killed or shot, sorry, shot two of our National guardsmen,
killing one. And she said it in this post or

(01:17:51):
in this video. She said, we could be just a
few days away from a bloody something happening because of
Trump's deployment of National Guard in our streets.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
Yeah, And I was just thinking about, like, in my mind,
if Democrats were in office right now and they were
controlling our government basically like the Republicans are. What I
feel the same way that I do today because right
now I feel like we need the National Guard to
cut down on the crime. If we're not necessarily going
off after innocent civilians that are Americans. We're going after

(01:18:25):
the people that commit crimes and make it not safe
to go on our streets. But if their tables were
turned and the Democrats were doing that, would I feel
the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:36):
Absolutely not. Now you would think they were taking over
our cities.

Speaker 3 (01:18:41):
I probably feel the same way with the military.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Yeah, but I mean, this coming from a CIA girl,
I mean, we're not going to believe anything she says, obviously,
But either way, it's kind of weird that a few
days before this she's talking about, you know, it's going
to be just days away from a bloody something in
our streets, and then this Afghan guy shoots two National Guards.

(01:19:03):
That's why I say, though, That's why I say, is
the CIA going to use these zero units in our streets? Yeah?
It's crazy to go against military and really create some
type of ramp up of either a coup, a civil war,
or something else.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
And my question keeps going back to if this guy
was a trained killer, why just take out two people?

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
Yeah, why not go for like a ton of people?

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Well, unless he was, you know, unless he was I
guess you can say, out there on a CIA mission
to where he didn't want to hurt a lot of
National Guard, and you were specifically going to go out
there and make a point rather than try to kill
a lot of people in our national Guard or military.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
But I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
He was definitely going to kill because he shot the
girl in the head, yeah, So I mean he was
definitely going to kill.

Speaker 9 (01:19:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
But also at the same time, this guy was a
part of a zero unit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
He was a part of this group that was ruthless
and that were heavily and highly trained by special forces
in CIA, and yet he went and shot two people,
you know what I mean. It just seems weird, especially
because especially considering that if you were in Afghanistan and
you were going after these terrorists, you were going to
go kill as many people as possible, as fast as possible,
and you'd probably be the best at it because you've

(01:20:20):
done this over and over and over again.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Since you were fifteen years old.

Speaker 1 (01:20:24):
And it just doesn't make a lot of sense, because
I would think that this guy would have been more strapped,
been more heavily armed, and would have taken out a
shit ton of people. Someone like this is not just
going to critically injure one and kill one. This guy
has the potential of taking out an entire block of
people if he really wanted to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
Yeah, So is this like a symbol or is this
something that's telling us something like, well, we're only just
taking two of your people out right now, but we
can take out a lot more.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Yeah. Well, here's here's what I said.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
The other day. You know, we were we were down
at the beach and we were talking to someone that
you know, we don't really know. We just met him,
and you know, he was asking me about Trump, and
you know, we were talking about our podcast, and you know,
so he had some questions and I have no idea
whether this guy was pro Trump or not pro Trump.
He had asked me specifically about the ICE question, like

(01:21:16):
isn't it crazy that we're seeing, you know, federal officers
in our streets taking people off the streets and putting
them in vehicles and all this stuff. And for me,
I didn't really get into that conversation because you know,
I do think that if you are legal here, you've
come across.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Their border, we don't know who you are. Especially if our.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
ICE members are actually going after criminals, I think that
you've got to do that. You got to deport him,
I think we have to do that. We've we've preached
about that, especially during the Biden Harris administration. So I
wasn't going to get in that conversation with him. But
what I did say, and this is my view, and
if we want to try to figure out what's really
going on, this is just my opinion and I could

(01:21:53):
be wrong, but we've been we've been doing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
This for a while.

Speaker 1 (01:21:56):
I think that the way the political parties are set
up right now, and the power structure that we see,
whether it's the deep state and the political parties, and
all the people that are funding these political parties from
outside sources, whether it's Israel, whether it's the World Economic Forum,
whether it's Claus Schwab or whatever other donors that are
funding all of our political candidates and elected officials, whoever

(01:22:22):
that may be. You know, their mission and goal is
number one, it's not really about America anymore. It's about
their special interest, whatever that is, whether it's foreign or domestic,
whether it is big tech, or whether it's military, or
whether it's a foreign nationalist group that we're allies with,
or whatever the case. It seems like nothing is about
America anymore. We don't really have a lot of American

(01:22:45):
donors that are heavily influenced in our politics anymore. We
have everything outside of that, whether it's big business, big pharma,
big military, big everything else outside of Big America. We
don't have big American donors that are truly wanting the
best for America have everything outside of that. The question
is going to be is that who will become the

(01:23:05):
dictator in America? Because this is what I think. I
think with the way the political party is set up
right now, I don't see that not happening at this point.
You know, the most successful experiment at democracy is the
United States so far. I think one of the most
successful countries that have ever done it is America. And

(01:23:27):
usually I think two hundred and fifty years is about
the top of the line as far as the success
of a democracy. And we're at two hundred and fifty
years right now. How far will this go? And I
don't think it's going to go too much further. I
think that because of the power struggle with the political
parties and the deep state, and the power that is
hidden in the shadows that really controls everything versus what

(01:23:50):
the people want. I think it's a matter of time
before whatever political party is the most influenced by the
deep State that is going to carry out their agenda
and their role going forward. Are going to become the
king of America or going to become the dictator of America.
Will that be Trump or will that be a Democrat?
Will it be we don't know, but it's going to

(01:24:11):
be one of the two because one of the two
parties is going to figure out a way to circumvent
the elections.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
They're going to cheat, they're going to do whatever the
hell it is.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
Whether they influenced the military so much to where the
next election comes and they say, well, do something about it.
We're not getting out of office because you guys are
going to destroy our country. You are going to take
down our country, and so therefore we're not going to
allow you to ever hold office again in America. And
that will be the new dictatorship, the dictatorship of America.

(01:24:42):
It'll be heavily utilized by AI, it'll be backed by
big tech, and all the billions of dollars is coming
in that are.

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Back in whatever party that is that becomes dictator. It's
going to happen.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
Yeah, and we have a political threat of civil war constantly,
no matter which party is in favor, like it's in office,
if it's Democrat or Republican, you know, the opposite party
is threatening civil war constantly. And would that be a
would that happen?

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Well, I mean, I don't even I don't think it'll
come down to a civil war. I think they don't
have to, you know, they don't have to have a
civil war. Eventually, one of the parties is going to
figure it out, and they know that, like right now,
the Trump administration knows, and the Republicans know that we
either somehow hold on the power as Republicans or the Democrats,
because I think both sides are pretty clear now that

(01:25:35):
that you know, there's going to be cheating, it's going
to be conducted in a very very easy method of
how they're going to circumvent elections. I think that actually
happened in twenty twenty I think I don't know exactly
how it didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
If maybe it did happen in twenty twenty four, we
don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
But either way, these two parties are at a power
struggle right now, and one of them are going to
I'm out victorious and it may mean a war. It
really may, which is why you see the Democrats and
this just sinks. And you see this influence of trying
to encourage and and manipulate the military members to not
follow orders and to go against their generals or go

(01:26:15):
against the orders of the president. They want a faction
of the military to to go against the orders and
they want to use that that military as their own.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
But don't you think it's crazy that when the Democrats
were in office they changed our military to be woke
and not to be like manly or powerful.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Yeah, but you also have to understand how many of
those woke people have been doing mass shootings lately.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
You know, Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
I mean, they're in doctrinate and a lot of these people,
and they're making those people feel like that this government
or those people that they are against are fascist, they
are communists, they are dictators, they are the next Stalin,
they are the next uh you know, Putin or President Z.
That's what they're making these people believe. And then that's

(01:27:03):
going to make these people believe that we must do
this to save our country or to save my way
of living, or the fact that I'm trans or this,
or that I got to fight for my people and
my values, and so they're going to at some point
in time there's going to be I think a divide
and is in w there is not. But what I'm

(01:27:24):
saying is there's going to be a divide. Even in
the military. There's going to be a divide in generals.
There's going to be a divide and who's taking orders
from who? And once that happens, I think that'll be
a coup that'll set up a civil war that someone
will become victorious. They just said that there would not
be a civil war. No, but I'm saying not a
civil war in the way you think it is. Like,
I'm talking about a civil war between military the factions

(01:27:46):
that you know, subvert from the other. Like who's not
taking orders from Trump? Who's going to take the orders
from whoever is in control of the other side. We're
going to see that potentially.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
So if that were the case, do you think other
militia groups will form and go with opposite sides.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Yes, I mean, I think that probably.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
I mean, but you know, also during the entire presidency
of Biden Harris, there was a reason why that Facebook
and all the social media heavily monitored groups and chats
and everything that.

Speaker 11 (01:28:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
There's also a reason why they were trying to pass
and push through a law through Congress that and I
think I think they actually did to where they said
no more than so many people can train with weapons
and all that stuff, because then you'd be considered a militia.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
Yeah, with military or more people.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
Yeah. They were one to outlaw militias.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
And so there were reasons for all of this. They
knew what was coming.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
They did not want that side to be able to
organize because they were organized in their side. And so
if you have this big advantage of organization, like say,
for example, if the CIS brought in forty to eighty
thousand zero unit members that are going to fight for you,
and then you have at the same time the big
tech companies that are also siding with the Democrats, which

(01:29:03):
they did and silenced everybody and not allowed anybody on
the other side to organize, then all of a sudden,
if a civil war happens, you're going to be heavily
at a disadvantage. You're going to have so much organization
on this side, like all of the groups and socialist
groups and communist groups and every damn thing else is
out there, and then you're going to have the right
which has no organization. They have no groups because they're

(01:29:24):
not allowed to have groups. They're called domestic terrorist. That's
what everybody on the right was called for the entire presidency.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
You're called domestic terrorist.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
If you criticize LGBTQ or trans or basically anybody on
the left were you were considered a terrorist. And so
now it's like the right doesn't have organization. The left
still very much does. And I think that is probably
a lot more than we even realize.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
I think it's.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Controlled by CIA. I think that they're utilizing all these
Afghan nationals and probably a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
More groups, to be honest with you, other than just
the zero units.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
I think there's so many other groups, such as the
cartel members that have come in from Mexico and Venezuela
and South America and you name it. I think the
deep state has full control over these groups, and guys,
I hate to tell you. If you think that the
Trump and cash matel and all that administration has control

(01:30:20):
over all this shit, they don't. They don't even have
control over the Epstein files. How do you think they're
going to have control of all the groups that are
likely organized already that are under control of whether it
be CIA or whoever it is inside of America.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
They don't have control of this.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
And I don't think they realized how deep it was,
and I still probably think they don't realize how deep
it is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:42):
So do you think this CIA is still controlled by
the left?

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Yeah, well I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
I mean, yeah, the left that has been influenced, and
I mean, but I also think it's not just a lot.
I mean, I think there are people on the right
that are influenced, but in the same faction, the same people.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
So I don't know what is going to be out come.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
All I do know is that this is going to
get bad, and I think it's going to get bad
over the next three years. I think it's going to
get bad quicker than you think. We've been waiting to see,
like what would be the result of an open border,
what would be the result over this operation? Allies are
welcome and bringing in all of these thousands of people now.
To be quite honest, I had no idea about they

(01:31:22):
brought in that many of the zero unit death squads
from Afghanistan into America, had zero clue, never heard about
it until this guy shot two National Guard members.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
Never even heard about it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:32):
By the way, they're all in the Washington area and
some in California.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Well they're not all in Washington. I mean they've got
some in Texas. Yeah, I mean, they got some in Texas.
I got some in Florida that they're kind of spread out,
and I'm sure there are larger groups in places like
you say, Washington and California. But you know, these intelligence
agencies can utilize these people in any way they want.
And I'm not blaming or saying that the tops, the

(01:32:00):
heads of the CIA are gonna, you know, the government
and whole are the ones that are gonna, I guess,
kind of operate or.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Activate these people. You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:14):
But what I am saying is that there's something much
deeper going on behind the scenes, and I think that
we're probably going to see it sooner than later. And
I understand this is about two National Guards members that
were shot, but I think this is just kind of
a little taste of what is to come, and I
think it's going to get worse. And also at the

(01:32:37):
same time, you get to think about it on both sides.
Keep in mind, you got to be very clear minded
when it comes to what side and how do I
take the sides of what I'm what I'm thinking about,
because you're going to have one side that wants a sedition,
they want a coup, they want to overthrow this government.
And then you're going to have this government that is
going to go hardcore on the other side, literally in

(01:33:00):
including potentially martial law.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
I mean, I'm talking about where they do bring in
the military.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
We've talked about that a lot, to completely take over
the streets of America and maybe even maybe even use
as an excuse to become a dictator or to stay
in power because of the sedition possibility or the coup. Right,
this could all be then and then at the very
top of this, this could all be some master plan

(01:33:25):
to where they do create this dictatorship. And they want
you to believe we have to do this because this
side is going to try to overthrow our government, and
this side and this deep state and whoever is going
to try to turn the military against us, So we
have to do this. We goet to lock this down.
And is there going to be attack that allows either
Trump or whoever in the future to stay in power.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
I mean, it has happened in other countries. I won't
say who, but it has happened in other countries. But
it's just so weird and so crazy how divided our
country is. Like we are on opposite ends of the
scale right now, and I don't remember a time in
my life where we're so divided than we are now.
It's almost like there's people on Facebook that can't even

(01:34:08):
be friends with each other anymore if they have opposite
political views.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
Yeah, it's weird because you see that online, you see
it everywhere. But like we've been gone a week, and
I'll be honest, I haven't met anybody that would have
opposite views. I mean, I'm sure if you probably talk
to some people longer than twenty or thirty minutes, you
might find that if you talk about certain issues like
we talked about on the podcast, that you might find
that they hate you or I mean, I don't hate anybody,
but you would probably find some people that would hate

(01:34:35):
you pretty quick based on your views or your outlooks.
I mean, and people even to listen to this podcasts
hate us because of some of the things we say.
You know, that's just the way it is. And we're
trying to be the most unbiased people as possible. I mean,
that's the really we are. That's literally why we talk
about both sides.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Yes we do. Why do you think we're so divided?

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
I don't know. I mean, it's just influence, that's all
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
And they're using every group of people, every belief system,
every viewpoint, they're using it all to divide everybody. Right now,
they're using everything because black and white didn't work. White
didn't work, So now they've got to do everything else
they got to do. They've got to do Israel, they
got to do military, they got to do dictatorship, they've

(01:35:19):
got to do Russia, Ukraine. They they've been doing that
for a while. They're going to do everything to divide.
But I think now they're just done with trying to
divide us as much anymore. They're more concerned about who's
going to come out on top of this political.

Speaker 3 (01:35:32):
War and who they can control more. Yeah, but like
which party they can control.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
But the deep state is going to take the side
of who they can control more, and they're going to
win the war probably, yeah, And so we'll see how
it all plays out. Because I'm telling you who like,
like you said, whoever that they can fully manipulate and
carry out their orders on an everyday scale, those are
the people that are going to win the war. Those
are the people that are going to be the head

(01:35:58):
of this America that we've ever seen before. And so, guys,
let us know what you think. What do you think
about what we're talking about. I know this this kind
of goes pretty deep in a rabbit hole, but there
is a lot to say about this. We've been thinking
a lot about this as we've been gone. Let us
know what you think. Do you think this is inevitable
that we are going to have a dictatorship soon? Or

(01:36:18):
do you think that it's just going to continue as
a democracy and we're just going to keep hating each
other and there's gonna be a political divide. Or do
you think that one side or the other is going
to win? Win is in becoming the king or becoming
the dictator of America? Will we be the new China?
But until next time, guys, we love you. We'll be
back tomorrow with three I at last episode. Until then,

(01:36:38):
this is the river's gonna cry when you're gone. We
do send our hearts out to the National Guard members
that was shot, especially Sarah that had lost their life.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
We pray so much for both their families till next time.
We love you guys, pece so peace out.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
How'd you want to leave this place? But we crew.

Speaker 7 (01:37:00):
Just put it all behind number you.

Speaker 11 (01:37:06):
Would always find somewhere else hide and be for kids.

Speaker 7 (01:37:09):
So we could see the hate of the watercraft.

Speaker 11 (01:37:13):
River's gonna craft on your car?

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Where will you go? Won't your nest once you know?

Speaker 8 (01:37:30):
I'll be here hanging on wait in free Cod.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
It seems like a.

Speaker 7 (01:37:39):
That's away, fastened.

Speaker 8 (01:37:40):
By leave from mark and our rights to turn the memories.
Whatever's gonna crap on your gone god gone God. Weever's
gonna crap on your gone, gone, gone gone. There's gonna cray, gode,
gode God. We was gont crown in your r The

(01:38:05):
river's gonna crown on your own. River's gonna cravel. I
was open, you would stay, would have always known that

(01:38:26):
you would go find your wood.

Speaker 1 (01:38:32):
Still see when we.

Speaker 11 (01:38:34):
Climbed up in those streets twelve years old, the field
will wash your lit room.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
And the sun would always.

Speaker 11 (01:38:43):
Shot when we sat there, she would I. The river's
gonna crap on your God, God, God, gol. River's gonna
crap on your gone God.

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
Gone. Never's gonna crap in your gone God, gone God.
Never's gonna crawd in. Your Never's gonna crowd in Your
Never's gonna crowd. You're gone. It's gonna cry. It's gonna crowd.

(01:39:23):
There's gonna crawd in. It's gonna cry. It's crowd by Howard,
you want to leave this place where we grew up,
this sotel, Just leave it all behind.

Speaker 11 (01:39:45):
River's gonna crowd when you're gone.

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