Is a US War with Venezuela Imminent? | Full Breakdown - Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, and welcome to Investigator Podcast. I'm your host Shadow,
alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're talking
about Venezuela and how it's not just a struggling social estate,
it's become a key piece in a shadow war. Nicholas
Madura clings to power while Russia, China and Iran quietly
deepen their presence in the region. The United States meanwhile,
scrambles to hold on to influence and a hemisphere slipping

(00:53):
from its grasp. And we're told this is all about drugs, cocaine,
cartels and smuggling routes stretching north and to the United States.
That's the official story. But the closer you look, the
lesson makes sense. The maps don't line up, the routes
aren't so clear, and yet Venezuela remains at the center
of it all. President Trump warned that America was fighting
a drug war with Venezuela. But what if that was

(01:13):
just only the surface of something much larger. What if
the real story is hidden in plain sight, just beyond
the headlines. And tonight we're going to ask the hard questions,
because whatever is unfolding in Venezuela isn't just about one country.
It may be the spark for a conflict that reaches
across the globe. Guys, welcome to the show. It is
September eighth, twenty twenty five. The name of the song
is Freedom by Tory Wolf. And I'm gonna go ahead

(01:35):
and say you get a bear with us on this
episode because this is a lot to talk about. It's
a lot to kind of explain and suss out, like
what is the real story? What is propaganda? Obviously everybody's
been asking us to cover this story. Are we about
to be at war with Venezuela. Well, if you look
at the maps, if you look at what we're actually
seeing in the Caribbean, where you have warships that seem

(01:57):
to be surrounding Venezuela, you also have the Venezuelan Air Force.
I guess they actually have that that is flying out
of sixteen fighter jets and they're a buzzing some of
our battleships and our warships. And just the other day
Trump had warned them and said, look, if you guys
keep doing this like, it's not going to go good.
And we're not really going to keep warning you. This

(02:19):
is like your only warning. And in a lot of ways,
these two fighters flew very close to our battleships in
the Caribbean, kind of buzzing the tower as a show
of force. And this obviously came right after the United
States took out the Narco boat or the drug boat
that they say was full of drugs and there were
eleven people on board. All eleven of those people are

(02:40):
now no longer people. They are pieces, I guess of
people in the ocean. We still don't one hundred percent
know what actually took that boat out, whether it was
a drone or some type of helicopter, but either way,
a lot of speculation on whether Trump and the US
government should have done that. Typically in the past, when
you are intercepting whether it be drug boats or whatever

(03:01):
from South America, usually the Coastguard handles a lot of that.
They will interdict these boats. They will usually shoot out
the engines, then they will go down. Usually they'll have
boats come alongside, and then they will board the boats.
They will question them. Sometimes they will obviously arrest them,
deport them, whatever they got to do. But in this case,
Trump and the Department of War now which they're calling

(03:21):
the Department of war and not defense just decided to
blow up the entire boat and everybody on it.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
So well, what's crazy about this whole thing too, is
that they blew up this boat, and they gave over
the footage where they showed that they blew up the boat.
But we still today have no names of anyone that
was on the boat. Isn't that kind of weird?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, there's no names. You know, we don't for sure,
absolutely one hundred percent know that they were I guess
traveling with drugs. Now, we do know that cartel members
they will get their peons in these boats quite often
from South America, and usually these trips go from Columbia
in this region and either they go the Pacific route

(04:03):
or they'll go up through the Caribbean into Florida area.
This particular boat, I believe was kind of going more
towards the east coast of Florida. And what the Trump
administration later went to say was this was Venezuelan's They
were trying to bring tons of drugs into our country.
And instead of interdicting these people, asking questions, making sure
they were actually drugs by the way, we just blew

(04:23):
the boat up because they're like, you know what, screw this.
We're going to send a message to all of these
cartels anywhere in South America that you're not going to
bring drugs into America. But the big question I think
here is is is this really about drugs? Because mainstream media,
including Fox News and MSNBC and everybody is saying this
is a drug war. We were about to go to

(04:44):
war with the cartels. And obviously about six months ago,
Trump actually designated cartels or these drug cartels, mostly in Mexico,
but also you have them in northern South America. He
designated them as terrorist organizations. This just literally just happened
a six months ago. When Trump was asked about it
by media, I think it was about four or five

(05:04):
days ago, he said, well, they were a terrorist organization,
so that's why we blew them up.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, and he also called them second rate news.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah yeah. So I mean, we're going to talk about
all this because this is yet another subject to where
you see people on the right that are fighting within themselves.
So there are people on the right that believe that
we should not have carried out a strike like this
on a boat without due process of some sort, whether
actually confirming I guess whether they had drugs or not.

(05:32):
I'm assuming that the Department of War, along with other
intelligence would have likely verified where the boat was coming from.
They probably had satellite or drones on that boat from
the time it actually put the drugs in the boat
and then bringing it up to where they actually locked
on and hit this boat in the ocean. I would
like to actually see the intel because I think that

(05:53):
would obviously solve a lot of questions for a lot
of people whether or not, Hey, was this an actual
drug boat? Is this some falts flag to kind of
bring in this drug war type narrative to where you
get the American people on board to then invade Venezuela,
because right now the Trump administration is making it look
like Venezuela is like the main hub of drugs in
the entire world. And so what we're going to talk

(06:15):
about on this show is is that true Number One?
Is there any other reason the United States might be
trying to invade Venezuela, And we mentioned a little bit
about that on our intro, But there is also potentially
another aspect of why we would invade Venezuela in similar
fashion to maybe how we've invaded other countries in the past,
and to be honest with you, until I started looking

(06:37):
into Venezuela, there were some facts about Venezuela I had
no idea about. I had absolutely no idea about. So
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(10:25):
of the official story, and this is Trump's next plans
on Venezuela. As reported on the News listen.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Fifteen minutes past the hour. In Venezuela is on high
alert this morning as the US military quickly builds up
in the Caribbean, the South American country, ordering more troops
near the coast to tackle drug trafficking. That move coming
after the US hit suspected cartel members last week on
a boat, with President Trump warning more military operations maybe
on the horizon. Newstation's Tom Dempsey has the latest from

(10:57):
the White House. Tom, We're now learning more about what
cones of forces the President is sending down to the Caribbean.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
That's right, Marky, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
A News Nation has learned that ten F thirty five
stealth fighter jets will be sent to Puerto Rico later
this week as part of this growing US military presence
in the region. But this comes as there's some big
questions going around about what could lie ahead with Venezuela,
especially after these comments from President Trump.

Speaker 6 (11:24):
Take a listen, lacking the inside of Venezuela, where you're
going to find out you're going to talk about.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Now this soul comes after that US military strike killed
eleven people on board of alleged drug boat that left
Venezuela last Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
President Trump's saying the.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Boat carried members of the Venezuelan gang trenday Or Ragua,
and his team warned more military operations could happen in
addition to those F thirty five fighter jets, though NewsNation
has also confirmed that at least seven ships being are
being deployed in the region, as well as a new
clear powered submarine over forty five hundred marines near Venezuela.

(12:05):
In response to all this, Venezuelan and President Nicholas Maduro
accused the United States of wanting a regime change through
a military force, but President Trump has denied that and
accused Maduro of having ties to drug cartels and even
ties to the trende Aragua gang.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Markey talk about American manpire and manpower and firepower there.
How's Congress reacting to the strike in the increased military
presence near Venezuela.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Yeah, there's been some pushback, actually, not only from Democrats,
but at least one Republican as well.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
We're talking about Senator rand Paul who.

Speaker 5 (12:40):
Pushed back against recent comments from Vice President jd Vance
really praising at that strike against that ledged drug boat
near Venezuela and opposed to X again. Senator Paul writing
this quote, what a despicable and thoughtless sentiment it is
to glorify killing someone without a trial of a democratic.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Senator Mark Water also voice similar concerns.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
There are still international laws of the sea about how
the process of interdicting these kind of boats, and they're
supposed to be a firing of a warning shot. You're
supposed to try to take it peacefully. My understanding, this
boat none of those procedures are followed.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
And with us back and forth happening, Markie, we also
know that tomorrow top senators will meet with a team
from the White House for an intelligence briefing about this strike.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Markie, all right, we'll stay tuned to that. Tom Dempsey
live at the White House.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Thank you. All right.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
So there you have news Nation talking about the attack.
And then you know Trump was asked by media this
was outside of Air Force one and he says, hey,
what is your next plans with Venezuela? He says, you
will find out. So what does this mean to you?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Share?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
I mean, obviously it sounds like that we are taking
a military stance for you know, when you have this
many boats in the region, I think we have about
eight to eleven either carriers or battlegroups that are in
this region right now. You also have F thirty five's
going down, you have the harriers, you have all the
other fighters, including F eighteens already on the aircraft carriers

(14:08):
in the area. And then obviously according to the Department
of War, now you have the F sixteens from Venezuela
that likely was given to Venezuela potentially by Russia or others,
buzzing the towers of some of our boats. What do
you think about this? Do you think Trump did the
right thing here?

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I do personally, but we have to back up and
we have to discuss why I think it was important
for him to do this. And I'm sure your reaction
is probably going to mean the opposite of mine. But
this was a statement to anybody that's bringing drugs into
our country that you're going to FAFO, and that's what
he said. He said, you're going to find out, and

(14:47):
we've got to talk about the specific kind of drugs
that they're carrying. Is there a difference? Well, really, let
me ask you a question. First, if they were just
carrying like, let's say, marijuana and cocaine, because they make
cocaine in Venezuela, do you think it would be okay
to bring it into the country.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
No, I mean, obviously it's not okay to bring any
drugs into the country, although I'm not even convinced necessarily
that Venezuela actually manufactures or makes cocaine or any drugs
within Venezuela, because you have to remember and understand something
about northern South America. Is that light you know, for
in large part most of the drugs that have come

(15:26):
out of South America have come from Colombia or some
of the other northern countries of South America. Venezuela really
has never been a main hub for drugs ever in
the history of South America.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, their main hub has always been oil.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yeah, oil has been huge. But also Venezuela has not
always been a shitty, poor, completely broken country.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
That's right. So after asking you that question, Okay, let's
say it wasn't cocaine, but what if it was fetanol
that they're bringing over to me? They are murdering a Mariamerrikans daily,
and if you watch any of the shows that I watch,
any of the programs like in Kensington, for example, in Pennsylvania,
where these people look like zombies and they're dying every

(16:11):
day because of fentanyl overdoses and drank. I think if
they were bringing this stuff on into America from a ship,
it should have been gotten rid of because we don't
want that stuff in our country. It's killing tons of
Americans every day, and we got to get rid of
the drugs, and we got to get rid of especially
the drank and the fentanyl. Yeah, it's killing us.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
Well, we don't know for sure, obviously that this boat
had fentanyl on the boat whatsoever. We don't know anything
about Venezuela's involvement in drug trafficking or running. We do
know obviously that when the United States kind of started
to hamper down on a lot of the other northern
countries of South America as far as their drug running,
we do know that they started to bring in the

(16:55):
drug game into Venezuela.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Right.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
So there was something that Jimmy Dore explained in his
video that we're going to play in just a moment
about you know how this is completely fabricated. This whole
drug war is fabricated, especially on behalf of Venezuela. This
is what the Trump administration wants everyone to believe, and
I do agree with some of that right, although not
all of this. Now, I do want to at least

(17:18):
talk about the international law that we're talking about when
it comes to interdicting drug boats. Now, the international law
and interdicting drug boats in international waters is number one,
the Maritime Drug Law Enforcement Act, or also known as
MDLA nineteen eighty six, and under US law, the MDLAA
permits the US Coastguard to board foreign vessels in international

(17:38):
waters suspected of drug trafficking, but only if the vessel's
flag state has consented or waived objection. Number two, you
have Drug Traffick Interdiction Act DTVIA in two thousand and eight.
The law addresses submersible or semi submersible vessels without nationality
criminalized in their operation if found on the high seas
with intent to evade. Detection is primarily aimed at narco

(18:00):
submarine trafficking methods. And then you think about the general
international law principles sovereign rights over a vessel belonged to
its flag state boarding or using force against foreign ships
in international waters is only lawful in specific circumstances like
a hot pursuit I actively chasing a vessel that fled
territorial waters, or with consent from the flag state. Unauthorized

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use of force in international waters, especially lethal force, is
generally prohibited under the UN Charter absence self defense of
UN Security Council authorization. So did Trump's team followed these
international laws with a recent attack? Well, on September second,
obviously what we're talking about, we did carry out this
air strike in the Southern Caribbean, targeting a boat allegedly
operated by Venezuela Trende Aragua gang. The strike killed all

(18:45):
eleven people on board, and officials justify the attack by
labeling the group narco terrorists and citing self defense, though
there is no actual specific evidence that we know for
sure that that was the people or they were carrying drugs.
So there's a lot of experts right now there are you.
And the traditional kidnapping interdictions involve arrest, no lethal strikes,
and the use of lethal force in these cases may

(19:07):
violate international law unless it can be clearly justified as
necessary and proportionate self defense. So there is some framework
here that says, look, there are laws of how you
do this. This is the way we've always done this.
We don't just usually blow up boats in the middle
of the ocean that we suspect of trafficking drugs. And
it makes sense. I mean, you know, this became now

(19:29):
a death penalty. This is if you are a drug
trafficker or a suspected drug trafficker in this case, you
face death, you face lethality. And I think this is
a problem that a lot of people are starting to
talk about. And my bigger problem with this obviously is
that it's the framing. It's the set up for our invasion,
I believe of what's going to happen in Venezuela. You know,

(19:51):
it's like, hey, look at this drug boat we just
had to blow up because of all the drugs they
were about to bring into the United States. And then
I start thinking about a this is some of my
conspiracy mind. I started thinking about, which we talked a
lot about the trend dea Uragua gangs that were so
heavily highlighted on mainstream media, especially Fox News, where we're

(20:12):
talking about Aurora, Colorado, We're talking about all of the
trend A Juagua gangs that was in New York and California.
This was massive in mainstream media, and this was obviously
a huge part of contention between the Democrats and Republicans.
Democrats wanted to deny any involvement with trend de Augua
or that there were gangs taking over cities in America,

(20:32):
although it looked very evident that they did this, especially
in Aurora, taken over these apartment buildings. But it's almost
like an all when you look back, it's like a
setup to where we're at now. It's like Venezuela, Venezuela, Venezuela,
trendy Arouagua, Trendia Juagua. Venezuela is not the only country
that has invaded us through our southern border. I mean

(20:53):
there have been countries like China and Russians and people
from the Middle East. There has been all factions of
people that have been have come across illegally over the
southern border. But the one thing that we have heavily
highlighted is the Venezuelan gangs that have come across. Even
the murderers and all that stuff we pinned on all
the Venezuelans that have come across our southern border.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
But he's also highlighted that he just they opened their jails,
they let everyone out, they let everyone free, they let
everyone out that had mental disabilities, and they sent them here. Yeah,
and he said it's almost probably safer to go to
Venezuela now than it is in America because they sent
all their criminals here.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah. No, I get it. And that's what I'm saying.
I mean, when my mind starts thinking about this a
little bit, it's like, you know, were we really highlighting
some of the Venezuela stuff, you know, over the past
year because we knew what this setup was going to be.
We wanted to invade Venezuela to begin with, and this
is in national interest of the United States. But let
me tell you, I don't think at all this is

(21:52):
a drug war. I don't think this is why we
were about to invade Venezuela. And there are two options
in my mind of why we're about to do this,
why we have all of our strike groups there. It's
either the oil, which we'll talk about in just a
little bit, or it's either the involvement between Russia and
China and Iran in Venezuela and especially northern South America.

(22:13):
As I mentioned in the intro, I believe the United States,
in large part, especially after Biden Harris, has lost a
lot of their grasp and stronghold in these regions. And
so when we lost that, we kind of pulled out.
We didn't do as much in the northern regions of
South America. We kind of let it all happen. We
let all those people in across our border. That is
when Russia, China, and Iran utilized the Biden Harris administration

(22:37):
to infiltrate fully this area. I think this is maybe
starting to get towards a similar I guess notion of
if you think about it this way, think about Russia
and Ukraine to where Russia felt like the West Europe, NATO,
the United States was too involved in Ukraine. We were
putting in too many resources. We had guys on the

(22:59):
ground in Ukraine long before Russia ever invaded. Whenever the
whenever Russia and the Kremlin whatever talk to the United
States and say, look, you guys got to back out,
you got to pull NATO out, you got to keep
you know, you got to quit saying that they're going
to be involved or at least come on board with
NATO instead. What did Kamala Harris and Joe Biden do?

(23:19):
They instigated, They kept instigating Russia. They kept saying no, no, no,
we're not saying anything. We're not even going to talk
to you Russia. And we are going to bring Ukraine
into NATO. We are going to do whatever the hell
we want to do in Ukraine. As it is just
like the twenty fourteen coup that the United States CIA
made sure happened to where they would get a more

(23:40):
pro Western president inside of Ukraine instead of the pro
Russian president. So in some ways, this Venezuelan thing is
starting to be a battle for territory between I think
other nations such as Russia, China and Iran and the
United States. And I think that has zero to do
with drugs, but it almost damn near has everything to

(24:01):
do with oil.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Or we could put a third statement on the record
right now saying it could be a possible coup with
America taking out Madua.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Yeah for sure. I mean, well, we've done it before.
We I'm pretty sure we did this during Hugo Shavez,
right when Hugo Shavez was wanting to keep the money
and keep the oil for their own people, which, if
you guys do not know anything about Venezuela in the past,
Venezuela was actually a very rich and prosperous in nation.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
Seventies.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, they were a very rich and prosperous nation and
including up to Hugo Shaves time, and Hugo Shaves said, look,
you know, we want to keep the oil for ourselves.
Yes he was I believe Hugo was a socialist, but
so he wanted to invest a lot of this money
back into the country, which then I guess kind of
completely declined and destroyed their country in whole. But the

(24:50):
thing that we had a big problem with during Hugo
Shavas was they started to cut out outside influence or
outside oil bongerers. I guess you can say, like the
United States and West from taking the Venezuelan oil. This
is when the United States saw this as a big problem.
So what did they do? Well, they had this uprising
in Venezuela. I mean this massive uprising very similar to

(25:11):
what we saw in Ukraine to where when the CIA
went to Ukraine. That's what that's one of the best
things the CIA does is they overthrow governments, and that
is what they did during Hugo Shave's time. They went
into Venezuela, they hired and then also implemented these rioters,
these protesters to basically overthrow their government, including infiltrating their

(25:31):
military to where they could then put in a leader
that was more pro United States, pro West. So this
is exactly what we saw in Ukraine. And now you
have Madua, which is not pro United States. This was
allowed to really take off during the Biden Harris administration.
So now you have Trump into power, you have the

(25:52):
fact that Russia, Iran, and China have massive influence in Venezuela.
And so this situation in Venezuela has zero to do
in my mind, with drugs. I think it has almost
zero to do with the cartels in Venezuela, because that
is not the most dangerous cartels in America, or not
in America, but in the world. The most dangerous cartels

(26:14):
that affect the United States are literally just across our border,
and we're talking about the Mexican drug cartels. We all
know that Mexican drug cartels in large part are more
powerful in some ways than the actual military of Mexico.
They run everything. They run the politics there, they run
their local governments, they run literally everything, and almost damn
near every one of the Special forces guys that retire

(26:37):
or get out of the military early go to the
drug cartels. They are also the most heavily funded drug
cartels in the entire world. The vehicles that the Mexican
drug cartels have rival US military vehicles, and we're talking
about the m wraps, we're talking about the what you
may consider bear cats that swat uses. These fully one
hundred percent armored vehicles. They have weapons for they have

(27:01):
not only the cartels that have all this power enforce
in Mexico, but they also have the backing of the
Mexican military and the government and the local police. So
if you want an actual cartel that is actually dangerous
to the United States, including all of those cartels that
help traffic humans and kids into America, that is where

(27:22):
we actually should be surrounding is Mexico to take out
the drug cartels. But no, we're doing it in Venezuela.
Why are we doing in Venezuela in Venezuela is because
they are loaded with oil, and I'm talking about they
are the most oil rich country in the entire world, but.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
It's not being utilized. And that's the thing. When Chavez
was taken out, he was more of a socialist, but
at least they had hospitals, and they had places where
they could go. They had paved streets. They have nothing now.
They are so poor, and they have all these oil
fields just sitting there draining. I was watching a documentary today.
It was crazy. They have all these oil fields everywhere.

(28:00):
The kids use them as playgrounds and actually turn the
oil on. The oil's coming out, and it's in their lakes,
it's in their oceans, it's everywhere. It's just like mass
destruction over there. And they're living in so much poverty
because when when Medora came in, he stopped all of
the state funded things to keep Venezuela up. Yeah, like

(28:22):
the roads, the lakes. You know, they can't treat the lakes.
Now they have all this algae growing. You know, most
of the people are suffering from poverty there. And you
think about when people are in poverty, what do they
do well. They do things that are illegal to make money,
like drugs. So I think there is a big drug
problem there as well, for sure, And it is coming

(28:42):
here because they have no other ways of making a living.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
No, absolutely, and especially when the border was cut off,
and now you have a drug boat that was literally
just blown up in the middle of the ocean. Now
they're thinking, who's going on the next run any volunteers.
You said you were going to next front, did you not?

Speaker 7 (29:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
No, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah. But Trump did make a statement because who's going
to want to get in a boat now and bring drugs?
That's what the case was.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well, so Venezuela just recently went to the UN and
as he says, the main drug routes are in the
Pacific and they are not in our ocean. This is
not Venezuela. This is not the issue between Venezuela and
United States. This is their UN ambassador. And I want
to play this because this is literally what he said.
It's just a few minutes clip. But listen, we.

Speaker 8 (29:30):
Don't believe at all that they are there to fight
in drug trafficking at all.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
For three reasons.

Speaker 8 (29:40):
The main routes of drug trafficking are on the Pacific Ocean.
I mean they missed took the ocean, they went to
the Caribbean, and they had to go to the Pacific Ocean.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
First.

Speaker 8 (29:53):
First of all, Second, Venezuela is not the drug producer
that we are free of cultivation, Venesela, it's free of laboratories.
We are not a drop processing country.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
And of course there's true.

Speaker 8 (30:06):
We are part of the roots of drug trafficking, but
if you taking in account the proportions, we are less
than five percent of the traffic truck running around the world.
Esola is a minuscal part of the whole thing. This
is a narrative which is being fabricated just for the

(30:26):
purpose of producing an justify an intervention against allegitimate president
in a Latin American country. If they really want to
fight drug trafficking, they should begin here, and not just
with the drug cartels, also with the pharmat ciutical corporations
who sold legally drugs, oxy coating and the rest of them,

(30:48):
big corporations, rich people, tens of billions of dollars, corporations
killing thousands of young youngs Americans every single year, seventy
thousand every single year. I start this society, we know
the big corporations selling drugs on the pharmacies I mean legally,
not just the drug cartels. Why don't they gin by that,
but we are also absolutely willing to cooperate, but to

(31:15):
cooperate as we are doing with Colombia, as we are
doing with any of the country which is not trying
to bomb us.

Speaker 9 (31:23):
Sorry, just for our viewers and rags out there, can
you just repeat again what you think the real intention.

Speaker 8 (31:29):
Of there, the real intention of America.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
They declared themselves.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
They said that they do not recognize our president as
the legative president of our country. They said that Venezuela's
perpetrated an invasion of the American terry, US territory. They
said that all Venezuelans in the United States are contrary
to the national security of this country. They say that

(31:53):
all Venezuela's, all, every single one of them older than
fourteen years old, is an enemy, alien enemy and has
to be expelled from this country. And they said that
the head of this massive invasion against this country is
our president and is a fugitive, they said themselves today

(32:14):
and have to be punished. And they put a fifty
million dollars reward for our president. I mean, it's clear
what they are trying to say. It'sakudeta is what they said.
What they did in nineteen nineties in Panama, what they
tried to do to Nicaragua, what they did in Iraq,
what they did in Libya, I mean, is a massive operation,

(32:34):
propaganda operation to justify what the experts called kinetic action,
meaning military intervention in our country, which is a sovereign,
an independent country and is no threat to anyone.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
All right, So and what he says here is that
they want a coup, right, that is the entire propaganda
campaign that the United States is doing right now. And listen,
just for his benefit playing devil's advocate here, the United States,
as I've said, is great at this. We've done it everywhere.
We did it in Iraq, We've done it in many
countries in South America, We've done it in Africa, We've

(33:07):
done it in Ukraine. We've literally done it anywhere that
our interest is not best served or that we actually
have a interest in, whether it be oil or resources
or territory, or it could also be a battle between
the statesmanship of how much Russia and China and Iran
has influence, which will get into that in just a

(33:29):
little bit, like how much do they actually have influence?
But you know, he makes some points here now Obviously,
this guy is you know, I guess, you know, like
a UN Council guy to where he's kind of being
the attorney for Venezuela on the on the world stage.
So obviously he's going to give his best case for
like why Venezuela is not what the Americans are saying.

(33:50):
But you know, we were talking on telegram, Sharry the
other night with one of our listeners, and you know,
one of the things he said was, and I agree
with this a lot of the people in Venezuela. And look,
I'm not disagreeing and saying that Venezuela does not have drugs,
because they do, and they are being utilized by other
cartels predominantly outside of Venezuela now and especially now after

(34:14):
the last four years where a lot of the Venezuelan
gang members are actually inside of the United States. But
so now Venezuela is being heavily utilized because of they
have locked down so many other regions around Venezuela. So
now Venezuela has kind of like been this open air,
open market for drug trafficking is probably one of the
best and easiest ways to kind of get through. But

(34:36):
yourregardless of that you know, there are fourteen year olds,
There are seventeen year olds and sixteen year olds and
grandmothers that are having to work for some of these
cartels that are not even Venezuelan cartels. In some cases
they are outside sources or outside entities. But these moms
and dads and grandmothers and kids are working for these
cartels because they have zero choice about this. I mean,

(34:58):
they really don't have been. Zezuela has fallen. They have
no money, they have nothing. They are going well.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
And their money value is nothing. They can't even trade
with money anymore. They have to barter whatever they sell
by and sell.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Well, they're broke, they're hungry, they're all these things, and
so they only have one source of income it seems
like right now, and that is likely probably the drug stuff.
But is Venezuela the biggest drug problem? Well, I do
want to go ahead and play this Jimmy Dore episode
where I don't necessarily agree with everything Jimmy Dore says,
but I at least want to point out or at
least put out there what Jimmy Door has recently said

(35:32):
about our ar ansa.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
And I do agree with you. I don't think this
is the only reason why we're coming closer to Venezuela
is because of just the drugs. I think there's something
else going on, And I want to make it clear
that I'm not this dumb girl thinking, oh, yeah, we're
just going to shoot them all the ships because they're
sending drugs into our country. I think there is a

(35:54):
bigger reason behind it as well. Yeah, I just wanted
to point that out, But I think this is a
statement that Trump is making, like, you know, you see
all your people over here, We're going to get them out,
and you're not going to send any more of your
junk over here either.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yeah. All right, here's what Jimmydore has to say about this.

Speaker 10 (36:09):
Listen soon did you find out that Venezuela has more
oil than Saudi Arabia? You know why Donald Trump tried
to overthrow Venezuela in his first term, why the United
States government has been trying to overthrow them for thirty years,
and why he's trying to do it again, and he's
doing it under the guys with fighting drugs.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Here's what he said.

Speaker 11 (36:28):
When you come out and when you leave the room,
you'll see that we just over the last few minutes,
literally shot out a boat, a drug carrying boat, a
lot of drugs in that boat, and you'll be seeing that,
and you'll be reading about that. It just tappened moments ago.
And we have a lot of drugs pouring into our country,

(36:50):
coming in for a long time, and we just these
came out of Venezuela and coming out very heavily from Venezuela.
A lot of things are coming out of Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Yeah, oil, we took it out.

Speaker 11 (36:59):
And you'll get to see that after this meeting is over.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
And listen, I want to stop for a second because
Trump is saying in this press conference everything is coming
out of Venezuela. All the drugs, everything that's happened in
is Venezuela. Now, it is all Venezuela, And that's just
not true. The reality of this is is that most
of the drugs that have infiltrated the United States, there
might be one percent of the drugs that have come
through Venezuela. But what the Trump administration is trying to

(37:26):
make everyone believe right now is that Venezuela is the
number one drug hotspot in the world, especially when it
relates to the United States.

Speaker 10 (37:36):
So I'm going to show you why that's a lie
of what he's saying about the drugs coming out of Venezuela.
But first I'm going to show you the real reason
that Donald Trump and every president has been trying to
overthrow Venezuela. And here he is going to admit it.
Donald Trump admits it. What is all about? They want
to steal their oil?

Speaker 4 (37:52):
How about with.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Buying oil from Venezuela.

Speaker 11 (37:55):
When I left, Venezuela was ready to collapse, we would
have taken it over.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
We would have go knowing that oil.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
It would have been right, dick, Sure, Okay, So that
was literally Trump in one of his campaign messages, saying,
we would have took it over. We would have just
took Venezuela over and got the oil. Why are we
buying oil from Venezuela. We could have just took that
country over, like you know, no problem. I mean, we're
the United States military, we are all mighty and powerful.

(38:21):
We could have just took that shit over. So now
fast forward twenty twenty five. Guess what we're about to do.
We're about to take over Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
Yeah, but you have to understand too, they're not really
running any oil there. They have tons of oil that
just seeping into their lakes, their oceans, their grounds, kids
are playing in it. Because of the president. He got
pissed off that America was financing an oil company to
help him produce the oil, and he didn't like it,

(38:51):
so he shut everything down. And that's why Venezuela is
like it is today. They have nothing going for them.
They have no roads, they have no hospitals, they have
no food, they and you know, you have to think
about Venezuela's history as well. They put all of their
fortunes into oil only to privilege pretty much the elites

(39:12):
in Venezuela. It didn't really help any of the other people.
They've always kind of been poor. Even in the country
was rich, the people were poor.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Well, think about how much money that the United States
takes and puts into oil and gets out of oil,
and think about how many poor and homeless people are
in the United States. It's very similar. I mean, think
about we've got like almost four hundred million citizens here.
We have millions of veterans that are homelessly on the streets,
but yet our elites are mega rich because of oil
or AI or whatever. You want to call it now,

(39:42):
I agree. So we look at Venezuela as like, oh,
this is horrible country. They're using all the money and
all the money from their oil for the elites. But
that's literally what the United States does.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Oh they do. But I'm saying, they don't even have
roads anymore, Chad, they don't have hospitals, they don't have anything.
I was watching another documentary where these monks are traveling,
like I don't know, miles and miles and miles even
on donkeys, through ships, on unpaved roads to just feed
these people. And he said he wouldn't do that for

(40:11):
a million dollars, but he just does it out of
the kindness of his heart and for his religion and
to see the smiles on the people's faces when they
receive rice. Like, to me, it looks like definitely a
third world country, worse than like Ethiopia.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, the biggest thing I'm concerned about. It's always funny
when like I ever say stuff about being concerned about
other humans, because I feel like that we've gotten so
in some ways cold in this world today in twenty
twenty five, to where we can look at regions or
places around the world and say, well, that's because they're Palestinians,
or that's because they're this or that, or Ethiopians or

(40:51):
Venezuelans or whatever, and it's okay. For like, if the
United States invades Venezuela, I don't know how we would
do it. How many civilian casualties will there be? You know,
what will this look like if we do invade this country?
You know, we don't know. We do have to be
concerned about human life, and I think that's that's very important.
Are we getting ourselves into more bush that just like Iraq,

(41:15):
and I believe we should not have ever been in
Iraq number one because the weapons of mass struction was
complete bullsh We wanted a coup, We wanted to overthrow
our raqs so we could put military personnel and bases
inside of Iraq, which we are still, by the way
in Iraq. I was just talking to someone, a source
the other day to where I mean, I know someone
that is in Iraq right now. They are running security,

(41:35):
as they call it, likely security for whatever resources we
took over back when we actually took over Iraq. The
same thing is going to be in Venezuela if we invade.
It's going to continue, and it's never going to end.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Or agree real quick. And if we have enough oil
in America to supply America, I don't think we should
be going after somebody else's oil and taking it from them. However,
I do think somebody You know, this is another thing.
If we're so worried about China and Russia taking it over,
you know, if there's a race for somebody to take
over Venezuela, do you want China and Russia to take

(42:09):
it over before America.

Speaker 8 (42:11):
No.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
And that's a good point, and we'll get to that
in just a minute. Here you go.

Speaker 10 (42:16):
So that's why they put economic sanctions on Venezuela. That's
why they want to get rid of Maduro. So they
want to steal their natural resources, the same reason we
overthrew Iran, the same reason we did Iraq, the same
reason we did live It's always the same reason. Donald
Trump left troops in Syria. Why for the oil? And
how do I know that?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
He said so?

Speaker 10 (42:37):
And here's why what he said about the drugs coming
out of Venezuela isn't true. For reference, this is a
picture showing actual data about drug routes from the US
government themselves. Note how Venezuela is indeed the place where
drugs do not flow to the USA. Once again, this
is according to the US own official data.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
We put it.

Speaker 10 (43:01):
It's not coming. Here's Venezuela. Drugs are not coming from
Venezuela to the United States. Ladies and gentlemen, Latin American
Narcotics Connection, maritime trafficking. This is Venezuela. This is where
the drugs are coming from. That's August thirty, first, twenty
twenty five. This is their own data. This is Venezuela.

(43:24):
This is where the drugs are coming from. So the
drug cartel state is actually Ecuador. But it's a US vessel.
So who cares?

Speaker 8 (43:34):
Huh?

Speaker 10 (43:37):
Declassified video showing the US committed a war crime when
it fired on a civilian vessel in near Venezuela. Being
suspected of carrying drugs does not carry a death sentence,
and certainly not one without due process. So there's this
boat that they say was carrying Look at this boat.
This is the boat they said that they blew up
because it was carrying drugs. You see how tiny that

(43:58):
But I thought it was going to be like a
giant ship. It's a literal little boat. The difference between
a boat and the ship. That's a boat. And they say, oh,
it was full of drugs. So and by the way,
they say that the anyway anyway, justin amash, he says,
Congress has not authorized military hostilities against Venezuela. There's no

(44:20):
exception permitting unilateral action because it's drugs or terrorism or
a designated organization the peace President strikes again here it
is from the AP Trump says, US strike on vessel
in Caribbean targeted Venezuela's trend Diagua gang and killed eleven people. Well,

(44:42):
guess what former Philippine President du Turte is in custody in.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
The Hague right now.

Speaker 10 (44:49):
Why because he's being charged by the International Criminal Court
for ordering the summary execution of alleged drug traffickers. Trump
just ordered the summary execution of eleven alleged drug traffickers.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
All right.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
So that was Jimmy Dore's take on the drug trafficking boat.
Alleged drug trafficking boat that the Trump administration blew up
and killed eleven people. I know a lot of you
are going to have different opinions on this, but you know,
Brian Crassentine, which I do not like this guy whatsoever.
He was absolutely a paid shill on the left and
he always has been, him and his brother. But he

(45:23):
had tweeted the other day he says, I think this
threat tells you everything you need to know about JD.
Vance in the way he views law and order. And
so JD Vance had said something back to Brian Kranstein,
but he said killing cartel members who poison our fellow
citizens is the highest and best use of our military.
Brian Krastin said killing the citizens of another nation who
are civilians without any due process is called a war crime. JD.

(45:45):
Vance says, I don't give a shit what you call it.
Is what he said, right, so you know, and then
keeping it also in mind, Jimmy Door just talked about this.
I think it was philipinion. That was how they treated
this particular case of drug traffickers. They considered it a
war crime. He is being held accountable and on trial

(46:06):
actually for an international crime to where he could even
be put to death. But the difference is.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
A war crime when you are going after people that
are labeled terrorists.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, but Trump administration himself is the one that labeled
them terrorists. And I'm not saying that they are not terrorists, right,
This is what you have to understand. I do think
drug cartels are terrorists. I do think that we should
actually be doing something about drug cartels, especially the ones
that are right on our border. Like we've already talked
about the Mexican drug cartels. But I just think this
whole Venezuelan thing is being blown out of proportion when

(46:41):
it comes to the drug trafficking that is coming from Venezuela.
You know, and Sherry you had said something earlier, and
Jimmy Dorrit kind of made this point as well to
where it's like, this was a ship. This was not
a ship. This was literally a little boat. It was
a boat probably with like a hundred horsepower motor.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Or bunch of white bags on it or white something.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, it looked like that, which is weird because like
who carries drugs? I guess in that way. I don't know,
But you had all these bags, but you also had
eleven people on this boat, and this boat was not
very big. They were taking it through the Caribbean and
we blew them up. So you know, what is the
evidence behind who was this, where was it coming from?
What's the evidence of was it drugs, Because you guys

(47:22):
have to think about, like I understand that, like the
patriotism and the military and all that stuff, we want
to be like, hell, yeah, we just took out a
terrorist or whatever. But if these are say, and I
almost guarantee you by the way, that on these boats,
especially if they're coming from Venezuela or wherever it came from,
they're probably putting some of these fourteen sixteen year olds

(47:43):
on these boats. You know, these people don't have a
choice almost in any way, shape or form at this
point what they do, especially on the on you know,
when they are commanded by these cartels. Hey, here's what
you're gonna go do. Here's your mission. Get on the boat.
And if you don't get on the boat, we're just
gonna kill you, because that's kind of how this stuff works.
But they got killed anyway. I just think that the

(48:05):
Venezuelan thing is shaped up to be something very different
than what the Trump administration is trying to make out.
And when I think about this as well, and I
think this is also very important, Venezuela is an economic
hit job and what I mean by that, and I
think we got to go down through a little bit
of history about what an economic hit job actually is.
Now there is a guy that he has been a

(48:28):
part of this economic hit man kind of group from
the globalist the leaders, the people that really want to
capitalize on oil from foreign nations or they want to
capitalize on the resources. If you go back even to
Hillary and Bill Clinton Foundation or the Clinton Foundation where
they were supposedly going to Honduras, I think it was.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
Not Honduras, it was in Punta Kana, but on the
other side Haiti, Haiti.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So when they were going into Haiti
and they said, hey, we want to go down there,
we want to really help the people of Haiti because
they're they're starving and and we can just care so
much about Haiti. But the reality of what when you
start kind of digging down that rabbit hole is the
Clinton Foundation went in and they basically set up security
forces to then be able to take out the natural resources.

(49:18):
In particular, by the way, Haiti had a shit ton
of gold. They had a lot of other resources including
I believe oil, cobalt. There were all kinds of resources
that we really wanted to get. And we're talking about
trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars. And not only
does this benefit the Clinton Foundation and the Clintons and

(49:40):
all the elites that are kind of a part of
this globalist movement, but you know, think about the Rockefellers,
think about the Sourus, think about the globalist leaders, all
of these groups, like the Clinton Foundations, like the like
the Open Society Foundation that the Soaurus has set up,
all of these, all all of these foundations tied back
to global sleep. They're all getting funded by all of

(50:02):
the takeovers around the world of these small nations. And
so you would think that like Trump would not get
into something like Venezuela to try to do something like
this take over the oil or take over all the
natural resources and get richer and richer and richer. One
thing I will say is like I under like, I
do think that Trump is doing good for America. I
think he's done a lot of good, especially considering the

(50:24):
difference between Kamala and Biden. Harris. I mean, sorry, Kamala
and Biden. Kamala Harris and Biden. Right, But I also
understand that like Trump cares almost everything about money, you know,
the investment in America, the Five hundred billion here and
the five hundred billion there, and even when he goes
back in one of his earlier conferences where he said,
we could have just tooken over Venezuela and took their oil.

(50:46):
We don't need we don't need to buy oil from them.
We're America. We don't need to do any of that shit.
We just take it over. And so this is this
is where I have some issues, right, and this is
part of the problem. But there is a there is
what's called an economic job. This is all part of
a globalist movement and plan, and there was something that
There's actually a couple of really good quotes. One of

(51:08):
them is there are two ways to conquer enslave a nation.
One is by sword and the other is by debt.
I want to play this quick video to you guys,
and we'll break it down to where you really understand
maybe why some of these nations, especially including the United
States and our involvement in Venezuela throughout history, why we
do these things and what is actually benefiting the United

(51:30):
States and we economic kid.

Speaker 9 (51:32):
Men really have been the ones responsible for creating this
first truly global empire. And we work many different ways,
but perhaps the most common is that we will identify
a country that has resources our corporations covered, like oil,
and then arrange a huge loan to that country from
the World Bank or one of its sister organizations. But
the money never actually goes to the country. Instead, it

(51:52):
goes to our big corporations to build infrastructure projects in
their country, power plans, industrial powersports, things that benefit a
few rich people in that country in addition to our corporations,
but really don't have the majority of the people at all. However,
those people the whole country is left holding a huge debt,
and such a big debt they can't repay it, and
that's part of the plan that they can't repay it.

(52:12):
And so at some point we can only get men
go back to them and say, listen, you lost a
lot of money, can't pay your debt, so sell your
oil real cheap to our own companies. Allow us to
build a military base in your country, or send troops
and support of ours to someplace in the world like Iraq,
or vote with us on the next to un vote
to have their electric utility company privatized and their water

(52:33):
and sewage system privatized and sold to us. Corporations or
other multinational corporations. So there's a whole mushrooming thing. And
it's so typical of the way the IMF and the
World Bank work is to put a country in debt.
It's such a big debt you can't pay it. And
then you offer to refinance that debt and pay even
more interest, and you demand this quid pro quote, which

(52:55):
you call a conditionality or good governance, which means basically
that they've got to sell off the every sources, including
many of their social services, their utility companies, their school systems,
sometimes their penal systems, their insurance systems, to foreign corporations.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
And so, Sherry, what you were literally just talking about.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Right exactly what happened in Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Yes, so we were talking about earlier as Maduro is like, no,
we are not going to give this to the America,
because I think what Venezuela kind of realized is that
they bankrupt us, they put us in debt for eternity,
and now we're left to nothing, and now we also
want to America.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Though there were other countries well, of course.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Absolutely, I mean there are you know, and that's why
we're kind of in a battle right now between Russia,
Iran and China. That's kind of the three, and they're
working together. They do all. I mean, I know for
a fact that Russia and Iran and China have had
people on the ground in Venezuela. I understand that. But
also we've all kind of been in battle for this oil,

(53:55):
for these natural resources and whoever does the best job
screwing over the country and then overthrowing the leader Madua,
which now we have a fifty million dollar bounty on
his head because you know, supposedly he's so bad for
Venezuela and we care so much about.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
You know, Trus Sam Matt Cartel dictator.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, which is you know, of course he's going to though,
I mean, you're going to say anything you have to
say about a leader to make it okay to then
go and invade and take everything they have and including
potentially killing a lot of innocent civilians. You're going to
say whatever you have to do. I mean, that's literally
what during the Operation Northwoods with JFK and how we
wanted to take over Cuba back then, and it was

(54:39):
the Joint chiefs of Staff that came to JFK and said, hey, Man,
here's what I think we're going to do. We have
to get the American people on board with invading Cuba.
So we're going to stage or actually carry out terrorist
attacks on our own citizens and blame it on Cuba.

Speaker 10 (54:55):
Right.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
So JFK obviously is like, you've got to be out
of your damn mind if you think we're going to
do that. He absolutely put a stop to that shit,
which is the only reason, by the way, we have
not now taken over Cuba or own Cuba to this day.
But JFK was one of the people that was like, no,
we're definitely not doing that, including so many other reasons
why likely JFK is not alive today or was assassinated

(55:17):
back then. This was something the Joint chiefs of Staff
wanted him to do. This is why I go back
so many presents that the people that you think that
you appoint around you are actually people that are appointed
to you. You know, you're oftentimes you're kind of pushed
in positions of who you need to put in power
in place. I think Trump is still kind of in

(55:40):
that realm today with Pam BONDI I don't know about
cash Hotel, Dan Bongino I've always liked Dan Bongino, cash
Betel in them. But then you look at Epstein thing,
you look at a lot of this stuff, It's like
the things that we were promised we're not getting. And
I'm saying likely that the Trump administration is a little
further away from that than I guess other administrations have been.
I think Trump kind of figured out out in this

(56:00):
first term. But this is an economic hit job. So Sherry,
when you were talking about that, Mardua is like, no,
screw the United States. I would rather the oil rot
then for you that have now put us in debt
whatever those nation states are to where we can't pay anything.
We are completely broken country. And then they blame it
on socialism is the entire reason for this. But the

(56:22):
reason actually is an economic hit job. And this guy
talking is an economic hit man, and he has been
involved in some of this stuff, so he understands this.
So I just want to play some more of this.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
It's a double triple quadruple wami. The president for economic hitmen.

Speaker 9 (56:41):
Really and began back in the early fifties when democratically
elected most of that who was elected and Iran. He
was considered to be the hope for democracy in the
least and.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Around the world.

Speaker 9 (56:50):
He's the Time Magazine's Man of the Year. But one
of the things that he'd run on and to implement
was the idea that for and all companies needed to
pay the running of people a lot more for the
what they were taking out of around and the run
and people should benefit from their own memorial strange policy.
We didn't like that, of course, but we were afraid
to do what we normally were doing, which was to send.

Speaker 7 (57:10):
In the military.

Speaker 9 (57:11):
Instead, we sent in one CIA agent kurwent Roosevelt, Say,
Roosevelt's relative, and Kurrent went in with a few million
dollars and was very, very effective and efficient. In a
short amount of time. He managed to get Mussadic overthrown
and brought in the shop around to replace him, who
always was favorable to a while, and it was extremely effective.

Speaker 7 (57:36):
Arms don't work, poll Duran army officers out, but Martha
deck get surrendered and his regime as break to will
dictator of Iran has ended. Victorious of the show, I'm
already through the streets that sentimentally verses, it's always welcome home.

Speaker 9 (57:50):
So back here that I say, it's in Washington. People
looked around and said, wow, that was easy and cheap.
So this established a whole new way of manipulning countries,
of creating empire.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
The only problem with rosav that was that he was.

Speaker 9 (58:04):
A card carrying CNA agent, and had he been caught,
the ramifications could have been pretty serious. So very quickly
at that point, the decision was made to US private
consultants to channel the money through the World Bank or
the IMF for one of the other church agencies, bringing
people like me who work for private companies, so that
if we got caught, there would be no governmental ramifications.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
And so he's saying here that obviously the United States
government decided, Hey, and I think in large part this
is when the United States government in particular started to
go to private contractors because they were like, hey, we
have to not let this come back on the US
government rather than we need it to be a private organization.
We've talked about this on many episodes, where you would

(58:53):
have Blackwater Armor Group and all these other groups that
would go into Iraq and Afghanistan and all this stuff.
They could also met heinous war crimes, do all kinds
of crazy that was beyond the Geneva Convention or the
or the laws that the US military is under and
handcuffed bound by. Yeah, well the international law that Geneva

(59:15):
convened all this stuff. And so you would have these
private companies go in oftentimes they would be protected by
the United States once and if they were found out
to be doing some of this crazy shit. And so
this is not just on the level of what you
would call mercenaries, right. The same thing with the Wagner Group, Yes,
that was in Russia. Russia was sending into Ukraine to

(59:35):
where it was like, hey, they would they were the
most heinous people you could possibly find. They were even actually, yeah,
they don't have to.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Follow rules, so they don't have to follow rule and
guess what, they can just change their name once they're caught.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Yeah. Also, the Wagner Group in Russia, they were taking
out prisoners and some of their worst prisoners, the most
violent murderers, the most violent people they could find. They
would then employ them in Wagner Group and they would
send them into Ukraine because and there was something that
JD which has been fighting for Ukraine and is a
part of the Ukrainian military. One of the things he
said was you know, the most brutal people are the

(01:00:06):
Wagner groups. It's not the Russian military necessarily. The Wagner
group or the most brutal They are private. Yeah, they
don't follow rules, they don't follow laws, and they are
almost soulless. And so a lot of times these private
contractors would have to find these people and almost in
a lot in some ways brainwash them into this battle
in their head that that they try to brainwash, almost

(01:00:28):
like an mk ulture thing, to where it's like everyone
and anyone in this country that you see or interact
with is soleless demons. It's kind of what they wanted
to put in their brind This guy worked for a
private corporation that was an economic hitman corporation essentially to
where instead of sending CIA or the government into nations

(01:00:48):
to where they would overthrow governments or they would you know,
completely indebt them and to where then the United States
would come in as a quote unquote savior. This was
part of his job where he was not necessarily a
gun carrying dude from a private military contracting company. He
was a economic hit man. And I think that as

(01:01:10):
you guys listen to this, this is leading up to
and why e Venezuela is about to happen now, and
now he's about to talk about Guatemala.

Speaker 9 (01:01:19):
When our Bens became president of Guatemala, the country was
very much under the thumbs of United Fruit Company, the
big international corporations, and our Bends ran on the stick
and that says, you know, we won't get the land
back to the people. And once he took power, he
was implementing policies that they would do exactly that give
the land rights back to the people. United Fruit didn't
like that very much, and so they hired a public

(01:01:41):
relations firm launched a huge campaign in the United States
to convince the United States, the people, the citizens of
the United States, and the President the United States and
the Congress of the United States that our Benz was
a Soviet puppet and that if we allowed him to
study in power, the Soviets would have a foothold in
this hemisphere. And at that point in time, it's a
huge fear on everybody's life, the Red terror, of the
communist terror. And so, to make a long story short,

(01:02:04):
out of this public relations campaign came a commitment on
the part of the CIA in the military to take
this man out, and in fact we did. We sent
in planes, we sent we sent in soldiers, we sent
in jackals, we sent everything in to take him out
and did take him out. And as soon as he
was removed from office, the new guy that took over
after him basically reinstated everything to the big international corporations,

(01:02:25):
including the United Thruit. Ecuador for many many years had
been ruled by pro US dictators, often relatively brutal. Then
it was decided that we're going to have a truly
democratic election. Heimiy Rualdoves ran for office and his main goal,
he said, as president, would be to make sure that
Ecuro's resources were used to help the people, and he

(01:02:46):
won overwhelming I'm more OFO than anybody who ever want
anything in Ecuador, and he began to implement these policies
to make sure that the profits from oil went to
help the people.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
Well, we didn't like that. In the United States.

Speaker 9 (01:02:59):
I was sent out as one of several economic kitmen
to change roll those to corrupt him, to bring him around,
to let him know, you know, okay, you know you
can get very rich here in your family if you
play our game. But if you continue to try to
keep these policies. You've promised you're going to go. He
wouldn't listen. He was assassinated as soon as the plane crashed.

(01:03:23):
The whole area was cordoned off. The only people allowed
him in the US military from a nearby base inside
of the Ecuadorian military. When an investigation was launched, two
of the key witnesses guide in car accidents before they
had a chance to testify, a lot of very very
strange things that went on around the assassination of himI Rodoves. I,
like most people who really looked at this case, had

(01:03:45):
absolutely no doubt that it was assassination. And of course,
in my position as an economic kit man, I was
always expecting something to happen to himing whether it be
a coupor assassination, I wasn't sure, but that he would
be taken down because he was not being corrupted. He
would not allow himself to be corrupted the way we
wanted to corrupt him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
So he is sent down. This guy wants the best
for his people, he wants the resources for his people,
and so what does the United States and everybody they
send down do They assassinate him. They tried to get
into play ball. Yeah, when he didn't play ball. He
went and play ball. All right, cool, You're gone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Do you think other countries are doing the same thing
that the United States are doing? I'm talking about Russia, China.
Do you not think they do the same shit?

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
I mean, I think you know, you can obviously look
at China, and you know, in mainstream US media they
always tell you how you know a communist dictator state
of China is, and how brutal and ruthless they are.
They tell you the same thing about Russia. They tell
you the same thing about North Korea. Do they ever
tell you that about themselves? Absolutely not. The only thing

(01:04:53):
that the mainstream media tell you about our government is
the fighting and in fighting between social issues. Really, I mean, yeah, yeah.
They'll talk hard core shit about Trump, and they'll talk
hard course shit about Biden and Harris and whoever whatever
the political opposition is. But what are they primarily always
pushing It is the division of the people, not as

(01:05:14):
much even the division of the political power. There is
still division there, and there are still elections. And they're
also all these things because they all want their benefits
to the power. They all want their benefits. Because in general,
we look at the United States as one of the
most powerful nations in the world. And it is, and
I think in large part the reason why it is
is because we play the most ball with the globalist

(01:05:36):
We do play the most ball with the world elites.
We are the ones that are most indebted to those
globalist puppet masters, the soros is, the World Economic Forums,
the everybody. If you look at the World Economic Forum,
for example, and you look at the nations that are
represented in the World Economic Forum, every single year, we

(01:05:57):
had over six hundred and fifty the United States elite
that attend the World Economic Form. If you look at
that in comparison to other nations, that's not even close.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
So you're talking about all of the Silicon Valley folks,
all of the AI people, all of everybody that really
runs the world, and especially runs America and runs their politics.
And it also is likely behind a lot of this
Venezuela stuff, a lot of the Iraq that the Middle East,
the Israel, the Palestine, the Ukraine, all of this, all

(01:06:32):
of those people have huge vested interest in how much
power they have and how much power and it's not
about power to America. It's about power to the global elites. Yes,
it's about power to the elites. And I believe, unfortunately
that the United States is one of the biggest puppet
masters to the elites, which is why we are one

(01:06:52):
of the strongest and most powerful nations because in some
ways we are afforded that. And I say we are
afforded that because if we didn't play ball in some ways,
in my mind, I don't think necessarily we would be
the most powerful. Now, we've also talked about the new
world order in the world and in the Great Reset.
But if you think about that also, you know they're
also trying to destroy America from within, right, This is

(01:07:14):
something that they want to do consistently, and they want
to do this with Russia. Also, there's a reason why
the United States hates Russia so bad and they all
but I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Think Russia is as much into it as America is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Well, I don't know. I honestly don't think they are.
I think, now keep in mind when I say that,
I'm not saying that Russia is a better nation like
as far as morals and any of that shit goes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
No, but they're just not into this one world reset
government everything like that. They want to be their own
sovereign country and they want to stay that way, and
they're not willing to play ball, playball or become a
one world government. They're like, nope, we're not doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
In China is the same way. China is a little
different because you know, China has a lot of representatives
also at the world groups and the UN, and we're
specifically China has a lot of influence at the UN,
the United Nations, the World Health Organization. They don't have
as much influence I guess at the World Economic Forum.
That's why you see six hundred and fifty plus elites
from the United States at the World Economic Forum, which

(01:08:14):
I believe those are the guys those are. It's kind
of like the little spider Web meeting. That's why you
have a lot of Americans there. That's why you know,
you go back to Ashton Forbes and advanced Technology and
all this stuff. We were afforded a lot of this,
I believe because of our play and ball with these globalists.
And it goes biblically, you know, Biblically, this all leads

(01:08:35):
to a one world government, it really does. And some
of the most powerful nations will be the most incorporated
and the most utilized nations for this advancement of a
one world government. So when we're talking all about this
Venezuela thing, yes, we're getting deep. And some of you
might have clicked on here and been like damn, I

(01:08:57):
just wanted to know, like, are we invading venezuel or
are we not. I'm just trying to make some points
about and listen, we're not done yet with this clip.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Yeah, but I do want to point this out for
a lot of my friends that are on the left,
our Democrats. You know, I see all kinds of like
posts going on that we're invading Puerto Rico. We're not
invading Puerto Rico. I think we're staging.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
Yeah, well, we don't have to invade Puerto Rico because yes,
we own Puerto rican pretty much. Yeah, I mean it's
we don't have to invade them, and you know, we
we pretty much own Puerto Rico in in most you know,
in most ways.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
So they do fly the American flag and they are
a part of America for sure. So we're not invading
Puerto Rico. Guys. This is a stage.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
We've already done that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Yeah, this is a staging event to get closer to Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Yeah, yeah, we've already invaded Puerto Rico. You're you're way
too late to the argument on that one. But anyways,
let's listen to some more.

Speaker 9 (01:09:59):
Oto President of Panama, I was, you know, one of
my favorite people. I really really liked him. He was
very charismatic. He was a guy who really wanted to
help his country. And when I tried to bribe him
or corrupt him, he said, look, John, he called me Juanito.
He said, look, Juanito, I don't need the money. What
I really need is for my country to.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Be treated fairly.

Speaker 9 (01:10:20):
I need for the United States to repay the debts
that you owe my people for all the destruction you've
done here. I need to be in a position where
I can help other Latin American countries when they're independence
and be free of this terrible presence from the north
that people are explaining it so badly. I need to
have the Panama come out back in the hands of
the Panamanian people. That's what I want, And so leave

(01:10:42):
me alone, don't you know, don't try to bribe me.
It was nineteen eighty one and in May, Jimi Roaldos
was assassinated, and Omar was very aware of this toio
his family together and he said, I'm probably next, but it's.

Speaker 4 (01:10:57):
Okay because time what I came here to do.

Speaker 9 (01:11:01):
I renegotiated the canal. The canal will now be in
our hands. He just finished negotiating the treaty with Jimmy
Carter in June of that same year. Just a couple
of months later, he also went out an airplane crash,
which there's no question was executed by a CIA sponsored jackals.

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Tremenous amount of evidence.

Speaker 9 (01:11:21):
That's one of the one of to Rehost's security guards
handed him at the last moment as he was getting
on the plane a tape recorder, a small tape recorder
that contained a bomb.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
So he was handed a tape recorder that contained a bomb.
That's that somethingmiliar. There was something else that had just
happened recently, and I think that was the pager attacks
from Israel. Literally the pager attacks. Do you remember when
all the Helmas people they intercepted the pagers. Then all
the Hamas people got these pages. Then one page went

(01:11:55):
off and it blew up their hips, their growings, there, everything.
A lot of them were killed. This is some intelligence
asset shit. Yeah, And so you know, if you think,
like if the CIA or Masad, if they want to
get to you and you don't think they will, you
don't think they can, they will. They'll figure out any
way possible. You get in your car, maybe the next
day you're gone, or you open your mailbox, maybe you're dead,

(01:12:18):
or maybe you open a piece of mail. You might
even have an explosion in a freaking envelope. You just
don't know. And they have a million ways to kill you.
And all of these world leaders know that, and you know,
but you know, between the CIA and the MASAD, these
are two of the biggest intelligence agencies in the world.

Speaker 12 (01:12:38):
Yeah, they blow people up, but Russians they poison. Yeah,
Russians the way they well, they're just Russians are not
as advanced. I don't believe when it comes to you know,
when it comes to this advanced I guess you can
say military style espionage or or tactics, I guess. But
either way, this was the president of Panama. I don't

(01:13:00):
know if anybody has also heard, but Trump has talked heavily.
He's had Marco Rubio down in Panama.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
They want to take over Panama because Trump and the
administration is saying that China is trying to take over
Panama and so we must take over Panama and we
must take back our Panama Canal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Yeah, and it all goes back to this. It's a
race against China. I think in a lot of ways,
you're talking about Venezuela that China wants to come in.
China is in the Panama Canal. We got to take
it over.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
We got to get But listen, you know, throughout history,
as you're even listening to this clip, we've always made
an excuse of why we have to overthrow a country's leader.
It's either you know, back in the day it used
to be communism. You know, we can't have these communists
come in and we can't have them near us, and
we can have this and we can have that. And
you guys can argue this whether or not that's a

(01:13:51):
valid reason why we should do the things that we
do or not, or is it just our ruse to
gain more power on behalf of the globalist Because I
thing that we're trying to gain more power not for
the United States, but the globalist They want all control
over this world. And if we can if they can
utilize until the end their last big puppet puppets. I

(01:14:12):
guess you could say them as big puppet masters. They're
gonna do it.

Speaker 6 (01:14:16):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Do you think China, Iran and Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Are actually in Venezuela? Yeah? Yeah, I've thought about that, right,
And I do know that there are you know, I guess,
pretty consistent reports that they have had people on the
ground in Venezuela.

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
I think they see the opportunity like the United States
probably does in Venezuela. But I also don't necessarily know
the truth of anything like that. Right, We have reports
of this, but we just don't truly know.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, but they don't have the excuse of the drugs
and the cartels coming into our country neither do we. Yeah, well,
we do have the gang members here.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Yeah, but that's fine of them. Yeah, okay, we do
have the gang members here. But do you not think
that was somehow also orchestrated. Do you think that's just
by chance?

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
They're not in Russia?

Speaker 9 (01:15:02):
Are they?

Speaker 7 (01:15:03):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
But I mean also very far away, and they're not
going to allow people like that in. There was a
reason why, regardless of who was the president, I mean,
regardless of whether it was Biden or Trump or whoever
the last four years, that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Shit is it was done on purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:15:18):
It was done on purpose. Well, think about this. Anything
that the actual people that care about the United States
tried to do to prevent a lot of this shit, well,
there were just judges that would come in and rule
over our own government. And we're talking about United States
judges that were appointed in large port or heavily funded
by the globalists like Zros, the Open Society Foundation, including

(01:15:41):
all the prosecutors that have let out all of these
heinous people, whether they're murderers or violent crime thugs, they
were all put into the cities where they were also
funding the prosecutors that were letting him out of jail
in prison, and or likely most of the time they
were not even going to jail. This is allwa a
very coordinated plan. And it doesn't matter if Biden was

(01:16:04):
in office or Trump would have been in office. And
I still think right now and I am a Trump supporter,
but I'm just telling you this administration is in large
part infiltrated as well. And you know, I think you
can look at the AI stuff, the pallunteer, the oracle
to where They're going to create a mass surveillance state,

(01:16:24):
there's no question about that, and we're we're letting them
invest billions and billions of dollars into the United States.
But then you also think about the Epstein files. Now
you think about this Venezuela thing, I mean, think about
the boat that just got blown up. I mean, you guys,
can I know you're going to have your own opinions.
I want your opinions. Send us messages, whether it's on Facebook, Instagram,
email investigators, podcasts at ProtonMail dot com. I'm just trying

(01:16:48):
to lay this out from where I see it, without
trying to take sides on whether it's Trump or Biden
or nothing. I'm just trying to show you, like the
history of how some of this shit works. Listen to
some more.

Speaker 9 (01:17:04):
It is interesting to me how this system has continued
pretty much the same way for years and years and years,
except the economic kidnet get better and better and better.
Then we come up with, very recently what happened in Venezuela.
In nineteen ninety eight, Uhichadas gets elected president, following a
long line of presidents who had been very corrupt and
basically destroyed the economy of the country.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
And Chavas was elected. To misst all that Chavas.

Speaker 9 (01:17:28):
Stood up to the United States, and he's done it
primarily demanding that Venezuelan and oil be used to help
the Venezuelan people. Well, we didn't like that in the
United States. So in two thousand and two, the coup
was staged, which is no question in my mind of
most other people's minds that the CIA was behind that coup.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
The way that that coup was.

Speaker 9 (01:17:54):
Fomented was very reflective of what Kermin Roosevelt had done
in iron of paying people to go out into the
street to riot, to protests to say this Javas is
very unpopular. You know, if you can get a few
thousand people who do that in television, can make it
look like it's the whole country. And things started to mushroom.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Except in the case of Chavas, he was smart enough and.

Speaker 9 (01:18:17):
The people were so strongly behind it that they overcame it,
which was a phenomenal moment in the history of lafe
in America.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Iraq actually is a perfect.

Speaker 9 (01:18:31):
Example of the way the whole system works. So we
economic kidment on the first line of defense. We go
and we try to corrupt the governments and get them
to accept these huge loans, which we then use as
leverage to basically own. Though if we fail, as I
failed in Panama with Omertorios and Ecuador with Timi Rodos,
men who refused to be corrupted, then the second line

(01:18:52):
of defense is we send in the jackals, and the
jackals either overthrow governments or the assassinated. And once that
happened in a new government, content boy, it's going to
tow the line because the new president knows what it
will happen if he doesn't. In the case of Iraq,
both of those things failed. Economic kifmen were not able
to get through to Saddam Hussein.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
We tried very hard.

Speaker 9 (01:19:11):
We tried to get him to accept a deal very
similar to what the House of Saud had accepted in
Saudi Arabia, but he wouldn't accept it, and so the
jackals went in to take him out. They couldn't do it.
His security was very good. After all, he had one
time worked for the CIA. He had been hired to
assassinate a faller president of Iraq and failed, but he
knew the system. So in ninety one we send him

(01:19:32):
the troops and we take out the Iraqi military. So
we assume at that point that Saddam Hussein is going
to come around. We could have taken him out, of
course at that time, but we didn't want it. He's
a kind of strong man. We like, he controls his people.
We thought he could control the Kurds and keep the
writings in their border and keep pumping all out for us.
And then once we took out his military, not he's

(01:19:52):
going to come around. So the economic kifman go back
in in the nineties without success. If they had had success,
he'd still be running. We'd be selling him all the
phyto jets he wants and everything else he wants. But
they could they didn't have success. The Jackals couldn't take
it out again, so we sent the military and once again,
at this time, we did the complete job and took
him out. In the process created for ourselves some very

(01:20:14):
very lucrative construction deals. Had to reconstruct a country that
we essentially destroyed, which is a pretty good deal if
you home construction companies big ones.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
So you know, Iraq shows the three stages.

Speaker 9 (01:20:27):
The economic hitmen fail there, the jackals failed there, and
as the final measure, the military goes out, and in
that way, we've really created an empire. But we've done
it very, very subtly.

Speaker 4 (01:20:40):
It's clandestine.

Speaker 9 (01:20:41):
All the empires of the past were built on the military,
and everybody knew they were building them. For the British
of their building, the French, the Germans, the Romans, the Greeks,
and they were proud of it. And they always had
some excuse like spreading civilization and spreading some religion something
like that. But they knew they were doing it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:58):
We don't.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
The majority are the people in.

Speaker 9 (01:21:00):
The United States have no idea that we're living off
the benefits of the clandestine empire, that today there's more
slavery in the world than ever before.

Speaker 1 (01:21:11):
There you go, and that is the job of an
economic hitman. He was one of them, and there are
many of them. You think about intelligence officers that go
in and try to corrupt leaders. If that doesn't work,
then they try to kill them. If that doesn't work,
then you send in the military. Now Maduro in this

(01:21:34):
particular case, is hiding and they don't know where he is.
We got a fifty million dollar bounty on his head
because we need to get in there. And I would
assume that the United States does not want Venezuela to
go like Afghanistan to where it is an urban warfare
type situation, to where you have if they say these

(01:21:55):
drug lords in here, sorry, trying to actually run drugs
through Venezuela, and it's not just Venezuelan's. I mean, we're
talking about multiple countries potentially in Venezuela if that's even true. Yeah,
they're they're trying to run drugs through Venezuela. But that's
not at all the reason why we want to go
into Venezuela at all. Yeah, and that's why also why

(01:22:17):
I say, back in when Biden and Harris were president
and they were allowing these open borders, literally everybody was
coming across, including everybody that Venezuela was sending out of
their prisons. I'm sure there was some CIA operation about that.
Hey guys, just make sure you empty your prisons. Let's
get all your bad people out of the country, just
send them over to the United States. Then they utilize

(01:22:38):
that news story of hey, Venezuela is really bad. They're
drug runners, they're all these gangs, they're going to take
over America. We've got to do something about about Venezuela.
This is all part of a plan, and it's all
part of a system. We've done it forever. This is Venezuela.
Thing is not new.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
So what do you think the solution to the problem isution,
There is no solution.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
We're going to invade probably Venezuela. We're going to take
over their shit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:03):
Should we do what do you think we should do?

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Nothing? We should do zero with Venezuela. You know, there
was something that someone was like, well, they've invaded our country. Well,
that's already happened.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
Yeah, it's already happened. We just got to get them
out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
And so on two sides of the coin, you're saying that, Well, Trump,
for example, brags all the time about, hey, we have
borders that are closed. Now, no one's getting through our
borders whatsoever. Okay, fine, and so then we should not
worry about Venezuela anymore. Okay. So if you think about
the drugs that are trying to be ran into the
United States, well, first of all, I don't I don't

(01:23:37):
necessarily think that you have to blow up a drug boat,
especially if you knew when they were loathing this boat.

Speaker 12 (01:23:43):
Supposedly you could have intercepted them right then arrested them
the rest of them.

Speaker 1 (01:23:47):
Put it all over the news. You're done. Anybody that's
bringing any drugs off the coast of South Well, it does.
But I mean, if you highlight it the right way,
you know, if you say, look, we're going to run
drones over this entire I reach in twenty four to seven,
including our satellites, and anytime we see a boat that
is leaving Venezuela headed towards the United States, you will
be arrested and put in prison, period, end of story.

(01:24:09):
They're not going to want to do that.

Speaker 9 (01:24:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
I understand that we're trying to say that this is
some type of big message, right, This is a big
message that we sent. But the reality of this whole
thing is that the reason why we want to go
into Venezuela is not because of drugs to begin with.

Speaker 2 (01:24:23):
It's the oil.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
It is the oil. It is the fact that we
have been on this long game with Venezuela for a
long time, and we have been I think probably indebting
Venezuela to the United States and globalists. But even beyond that,
I don't think this is an American operation. I think
this is a globalist operation. I think that they want
to utilize the oil. They want to take all and
as much profit as they possibly can, and they also

(01:24:46):
want to you know, position One of their biggest puppets,
which I do think is the United States. I hate
to say that because I am a patriot. I love America.
I want America to be about America. Like America.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
First, think about the people that were buying the oil
from Venezuela. The main hands were Russia. I think Germany,
UK and America and Spain had total control of Venezuela
before all this.

Speaker 1 (01:25:14):
Yeah, well, so Venezuela and Russia, for example, like Russia
has sold Venezuela billions in arms. Allegedly, they say they've
sold the fighter jets, tanks, missile systems since Yugo shop
As era. Russian military advisors and technicians have been documented
in Venezuela to maintain those systems. In twenty nineteen, Russian
troops and planes landed in Caracas, officially to serve equipment,

(01:25:34):
but symbolizing show and support. Then you also have Ronsnet,
the Russian state oil company was heavily involved in the
Venezuelan oil trade, helping bypass US sanctions, then you have
Venezuela was granted Russian energy concessions and access to oil fields.
And then so Russia consistently vitos UN resolutions against Mardua's government.

(01:25:55):
But then both Moscow and Caracas share anti US rhetoric,
casting themselves as resisting Western imperialism, which is what you know,
if you think about like, what is the United States
trying to do in Venezuela is probably that awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:26:09):
Well, the huge companies in Venezuela were American companies, oil companies.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Yes, and then Venezuela and Iran oil and sanctions and invasion.
Iran shipped gasoline, deludants, and refinery equipment to Venezuela to
keep its oil industry afloat under sanctions, Venezuela had repaid
in gold, crude oil and access to infrastructure. And then
reports suggests that the Quads forced the irgc I guess
operatives have worked in Venezuela, with US intelligence warning of

(01:26:37):
has Bala used in the country as a hub. And
then Maduro and Iran's leaders regularly issued joint statements on
solidarity against the United States. Both countries are members of
opex Plus and coordinate to push oil prices higher. So
you get into all these things to where it's like
Venezuela blames the United States for why their oil has

(01:26:57):
completely been diminished and abolished.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
But it's not just the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
You have to understand about the official story is that Iran, Russia,
and China have been have been kind of I guess
you can say keeping Venezuela afloat under all the pressure
of the United States to destroy Venezuela in a lot
of ways. And so this is not an anti American thing.
It's just you got to get into the history of

(01:27:23):
like why is Russia in Iran and China involved? Obviously
that is an interest against the United States without question,
so they're going to get involved. Why is the United
States involved in Venezuela, Well, likely imperialism. It is like
the United States wants to be the dominant leader. They
want to take over as much resources as possible, and
they do one hundred percent want to be the world

(01:27:43):
leader on everything. They want to be the biggest leader
in the world. They want to absolutely dominate China, Russia,
and Iran and any other country in the world. And
so there is this battle regardless of however you look
at it, you can you can splice it a million ways.
But the United States is trying to and they're about to,
I believe, take over Venezuela. This is a massive move,

(01:28:05):
a massive chess peace move for the United States against Russia,
against China, and against Iran. The question is is that
what do you think is the right thing to do?
And the bigger thing is I think that we have
to think about here is that when you see the
Trump administration or any administration on TV trying to prop
up this narrative and story about the reason why we

(01:28:28):
have to go into Venezuela is because of this massive
drug operation or this drug running or drug trafficking, that's
all bullshit. It's completely both. If we actually gave a
shit about drugs coming in America, it's Mexico, it's not Venezuela.
I mean, let's just be real. I mean, if we
really wanted to blow up some shit, we would be
going into Mexico blowing up drug cartels. We're not blowing

(01:28:49):
up one boat to make a point. And I think,
in my opinion, and you guys can tell me what
you say, true, I think the point was more for
American propaganda with that drug quote than it was for
the propaganda and the warning against the drug cartels in Venezuela.
I like, what does that even tell you? I don't know.
I just think that that was a propaganda hit for

(01:29:11):
a United States mainstream media. And there was something I
also said or I was thinking in that clip where
this economic hitman says, you know, they would bring in
paid protesters into all these places to make sure that
this coup and overthrow of government would happen. Well, we
do have someone. We don't have a schedule yet, but

(01:29:32):
their pr person reached out to us. They actually own
a company. They own a company that they literally supply
paid protesterss to all of these various protests, and so
this is one of This is someone I want to
get on the podcast very very fast. I want to
ask him everything about like what his job and what

(01:29:53):
his company was all about, how he was funded, who
was funding him, And so we're trying to set that
interview up right now. So guys, as soon as we
get that, we're going to do it. Because I am
sure that likely it's not just United States based. I'm
sure there are also other factions that are funding corporations
or companies like his. And the other question I want

(01:30:14):
to ask is why are you coming out now? And
I think the reason why people are starting to come
out about this shit is because they're just starting to
get so flabbergasted by what's happening and kind of the
movement forward that they have to start speaking out. So
we should have that interview very soon. But I think
that's going to do it for this. We will wait

(01:30:34):
and see what happens. As Donald Trump says, you're about
to see, you're going to find out. You're going to
find out what we're going to do about Venezuela. And
I do think that's likely going to come in the
form of an all out invasion. And I don't say
all out. I don't think we really need an all
out invasion in Venezuela. They don't really have anything. They
don't anything if you look up Venezuela's military or even

(01:30:54):
their assets, whether submarine, I don't even know if they have.
I think they have one submarine, we have a ton
of They have no battleships. They have some jets, they
don't really have. I mean, they got a military that
they say that we could probably take out in a
couple of hours. So that's the whole deal. We're just
gonna wait and see when that happens. And then obviously
also for future episodes, we're waiting to see what Trump

(01:31:16):
and the administration does about Chicago. I think we're going
to be in Chicago soon.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
I heard there's drones and you know, helicopters already there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Yeah, and now you're starting to have a lot of
these gang members in Chicago start releasing videos saying, come
on and f around and find out military. You don't
know what it is in Shiraq, like on the ground. Yeah,
you think you scare us, You don't scare us. So
now there's starting to be a narrative against the gang
members and the military, and this is where the shit

(01:31:46):
gets really dangerous. So we should see what happens with
Chicago very soon. But guys, that's gonna do it for us.
The name of this song is that Way by NHDB Nick.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
So next time, we love you guys, peace out, peace out, guys.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
At a gay.

Speaker 2 (01:32:08):
Get the musingly.

Speaker 4 (01:32:12):
But I'm gonna wake.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Put my b on a bit.

Speaker 13 (01:32:18):
Out of sight, out of mind, I'm away, out of sight,
out of mind, a way, out of sight, out of mind.

Speaker 8 (01:32:27):
I'm alwady, out of sight.

Speaker 9 (01:32:30):
Out of mind.

Speaker 13 (01:32:31):
I'm away.

Speaker 14 (01:32:32):
I'm blind to you.

Speaker 13 (01:32:34):
Yeah, all these fuckers, all these buzzies, all these leeches. Now,
I'm not blind to you. Yeah, get you gone a
week on, run on as we come up from my music.
I just make it in a weekend. I can make
you in a day. I'm wake up on the beach.

Speaker 4 (01:32:52):
I'm wake up in it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
I know being late, I'm flo.

Speaker 14 (01:32:57):
I'm gonna give Richel pain.

Speaker 15 (01:32:59):
I'm gonna give rich and saying say I'm gonna getting
rich On pains. Let me leave my same bad little
bitty brains on mom. It's only ran about the bank
like it's a roun row. Take care of my mommy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
I know she bribed me.

Speaker 9 (01:33:18):
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Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
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Speaker 4 (01:33:36):
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Speaker 9 (01:33:39):
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Speaker 1 (01:33:42):
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Speaker 9 (01:33:42):
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Speaker 4 (01:33:43):
I do it. Ain't nothing to just do.

Speaker 2 (01:33:45):
It because I influenced bank on floor. Yeah, fluence through
I go.

Speaker 14 (01:33:50):
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talking back about me, Coop. Yeah, look at your PHISI
you're saying that shoot his area. Talking to my badge,
I tell me I just want to just time over.
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Speaker 15 (01:34:07):
About money in the save for six months my kids,
and make it out at the case.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
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my brother on the.

Speaker 4 (01:34:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
I'm a ready out of sight, out of mine, my way,
out of sight, out

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Of mine, A ready out of sight, out of mind,
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