Joe Rogan Anna Paulina Luna Podcast Breakdown

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Hello, and welcome back to another episode of Investigator with Podcasts.
I'm your host chat alongside my beautiful wife Sherry Now
A couple of days ago, Joe Rogan welcome Florida Representative
Anna Pauline A Luna to his podcast and trust me,
it got wild between a pilot two rattled to speak
mysterious aircraft not made by mankind, and claims that Congress
has seen real evidence of interdimensional beings.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
The episode wasn't your typical political talk.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
Luna even tied it all back to ancient scripture, warning
that missing books of the Bible may have recorded these
phenomena long before we.

Speaker 5 (00:57):
Had words like uf or u AP.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
If this doesn't get your attention, I don't know what will.
Let's get into the highlights of this episode. Guys, welcome
to the show. It is August fifteenth, twenty twenty five,
and the name of this song is Overthinking by Daslo. Daslo, man,
why did you not put a rap song right there?
Because or a rap verse? Anyway, I was literally about
to wrap the intro. It made me kept wanting to

(01:21):
do it, but it just would not have made sense
because it doesn't want.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Came in and she said this.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Oh gosh, there you go, there you go.

Speaker 5 (01:28):
We shouldn't let Sherry do it. That was the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, because she went to the men and made a bet.

Speaker 5 (01:33):
Oh yeah, yeah, Sherry's written rap songs before. We might
release those one day or not. Anyways, guys, welcome to
the show.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
This podcast has kind of been blowing off across the
internet everywhere. I mean, everybody's kind of watching this show
as saying, men, it's mind blowing.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
It really makes you overthink.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Like this song talks about overthinking and when you overthink,
you oftentimes come to conclusions that you.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Never thought were possible.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
And we have talked about this interdimensional aspect of UFOs
and uabs so many times. And then Annapauline Luna goes
on she talks to Joe Rogan about this. Now, for
those that do not know who Anapauline Luna is, she
is in Congress. She is on a committee. She is
actually one of the leaders of the committee that it
brought David Grush before Congress alongside Tim Burchett and others,

(02:21):
where David Grush himself came out and said, look, I
have worked on programs and around people that have seen biologics.
We know that we are reverse engineering downed spacecraft from
other places or other dimensions. We do, on one hundred
percent know what exactly we have been working on, but
that is something that David Grush claimed. That is something
that Commander David Fraver also claimed. He was a US

(02:43):
Navy F eighteen pilot. And then you had Ryan Graves
also another F eighteen pilot that used to operate off
the east coast of the United States where they encountered
these things on a regular basis. And so Joe Rogan,
it was interesting. We watched the podcast and Joe Rogan,
I guess kind of has a duty in some ways
to be skeptical.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Although yes, this is pretty much all he has.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Talked about from the last thirteen or fourteen years he's
been doing the show, but it's almost just the fact
that he's talked about it so much. You almost have
to be skeptical the same way we would be if
anyone from Congress or government came on and tried to
convince or tell our audience that, hey, guys, I've seen this,
I've seen this, I've seen this. Joe Rogan asked the

(03:26):
right questions. I think he did a very good job
at it. And I think you do have to be
skeptical because you know, listen, we can all, I guess, speculate.
We can all have our opinions on what.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
UFOs actually are. Do UFOs actually exist?

Speaker 4 (03:39):
Is it advanced technology or is it interdimensional beings?

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Is it something else?

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Is it some you know, alien civilization from Zeta Reticula
or somewhere else. And we have to at the same
time be speculative. We obviously have our opinions, but look,
if you bring on someone like Anapauline Luna to your
pot podcast, then you have to ask and be as
speculative as you can to get her to dive in

(04:05):
as much as she can, especially considering this woman has
been in many skiffs with classified information. She knows and
has had access to things that none of the general
publicans have had access to. And so this age old
question of whether UFOs are real? Did this podcast for you, guys?

(04:27):
And I want you to tell us after our show tonight,
I want you to send us a message, whether it's Facebook, Instagram, email,
Investigators podcast at ProtonMail dot com or on x I
want you to send us a messages and tell us
do you think this interview did anything for you as
far as move you closer to believe in that UFOs
are really out there, they really exist, and this is
starting to become part of your reality.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's definitely a part of my reality. But overthinking and
maybe a little speculative, I felt like maybe she had
listened to our podcasts, yes, because especially when she brought
up the Book of Enoch. Yeah, I mean there's not
a lot of people out there that even talk about that,
And I was like, dang, does she listen to our
podcast because she really had a lot of the same

(05:11):
thoughts that we've talked about previously on many many podcasts.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
Yeah, she's actually also talking about zero point energy in
a couple of different places.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
So there were people who.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Are like, I think she listens to Ashton as well. Yeah,
we oftentimes think about stuff like that, right. We have
a lot of you know, pretty big people that follow
us on various platforms, and I think she follows us
as yeah, on on social media for sure, and have
no idea about the podcast itself, but you know, we're
not the only ones that are talking about this stuff. Obviously,
there's so many people that do talk about the UFO topic.

(05:41):
But I guess kind of how we have over the
past two or three years shaped and shifted our thoughts
and our opinions. Sorry about that, We've shifted our thoughts
and opinions on kind of what we think and how
we think about the UFO topic. And I think a
lot of this also to us, I believe, or at
least to me. I'm not going to speak for Sherry,
the UFO topic has kind of led me more down

(06:02):
the path of this is some type of spiritual being
or spiritual type of interdimensional thing that maybe our ancestors are.
You know, the people that we read about in the
Bible used to also encounter And so just like I
said in the intro, you know, there's been people for
thousands of years. It's not like this just started in

(06:23):
nineteen forty during the Roswell incident. It's not like it
even started in the nineteen thirties with some of the
sightings back then. This is this has been going on
for years and years and years, and there have been
many books, including the Bible, written that there are places
in the Bible, where you think, like, are they talking
about UFOs? I mean understand that a lot of Christians

(06:43):
believe these people were talking to angels or whatever the
case is. But were these angels interdimensional beings? And is
that what interdimensional beings are are?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
That's what I was going to say. Is you know
where do you take the line or what is the
line between spiritual and inner deems? Does it make it
spiritual because it is interdimensional?

Speaker 5 (07:04):
Well?

Speaker 4 (07:05):
I don't know, no, not necessarily, because I mean, well,
I guess the definition of what is spiritual, right?

Speaker 5 (07:11):
I mean, spiritual to us is.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
Something that involves God, It involves a higher power, It
involves someone that we worship. It involves someone that created
the universe or at least our earth. You know, most
people consider that a spiritual type thing. So when you
pray or you have faith in a in a higher
power or God or Jesus or whatever, that is spiritual,

(07:34):
would that also classify all interdimensional beings as spiritual? Well
it depends, right, It depends on if all spiritual or sorry,
if if all interdimensional beings are spiritual or like you know,
on the godly realm, or are they maybe some type
of advanced civilization from some far planet that has somehow
tapped into this interdimensional realm travel. Yeah, travel, absolutely, So

(07:58):
we just don't know, and we've talked about this many
times as well. This is one of the things I
had a little bit disagreed with on au Vi Lobe.
Avi Lobe on a podcast I was listening to probably
about a week ago, where he's on this podcast, and
obviously if you guys have not listened to our last
episode where we talked about three I at Las, which
is that comment slash spacecraft. We don't know exactly what

(08:19):
it is, but it is coming towards I guess kind
of towards Earth. It's going to be on the backside
of the Moon at some point.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
It is October, it is.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
It is only our third interstellar visitor ever that we've
ever detected. And au Vi Lobe, which is a Harvard scientist,
came out and said, look, you know, there's a forty
percent chance that this thing that we are allegedly saying
as a comment could be actually intelligently controlled. But one
of the things he said was that I maybe did

(08:50):
not necessarily agree with. He's like, you know, with cern
for example, we're doing a lot of research out in CERN.
I think is a waste of money. They're spending, you know,
billions of dollars in this a large basically particle collider
out in CERN. There's massive tubes and they're running things
at nearly light speed, colliding particles together to try to
see how many dimensions there are. We've talked about this

(09:13):
on the podcast before, and I think based on their research,
what we do know is that there's probably nine, ten
or at least eleven dimensions from some of the things
they have found. There's even been conspiracy theories out there
that they somehow were nearly opening a portal to Hell.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
That was something that you.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Know, the what's the scientist as crippled?

Speaker 5 (09:34):
I came to remember his name that was also on as.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Oh yeah, oh gosh, I can't think right now, but
I see his face.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Anyways, that guy had talked about like, if we keep
screwing with particle collision and all this stuff, then we
have a good chance of you know, opening up a
portal to Hell.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
And if you think about CERN, they had a lot
of hellish like symbolism going on for sure, all of
their stuff.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, well, it's the same stuff right the World Economic Forum,
they're opening ceremonies, they do a lot of weird stuff
with molok and and the kind of these other gods.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
A lot of people call that.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Satanism or satanististic worship. We see that not only at
the World Economic Forum, We've also saw a lot of
symbolism at the CERN site. So it's like, what are
they really doing it CERN? Are they trying to open
up a portal to another dimension? I think they are,
because that's what they're trying to figure out. Are there
other dimensions? What are they actually trying to interact with

(10:27):
those dimensions so well?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
And they're also trying to find the god particle, the
God like the ultimate particle.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, exactly, and which essentially just means and that's the
hig Bosum particle.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
I think they have already technically found that.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
But you know, we've talked about it so many times
on the show to where it's like, if you think
about Earth and reality, three dimensions is everything you see,
fourth dimensions time, fifth dimension goes beyond that sixth dimension,
and basically the higher you go in dimensions, the more
power you have if you can manipulate it. Right, if
you can get in those dimensions and fully understand it,

(11:01):
the more power you were able to have. So are
there civilizations out there that have harnessed the power of
other dimensions beyond what we actually witness and interact with
on a daily basis or is this just some huge
not conspiracy, But I guess spiritual connection that maybe the
Bible has been trying to explain to us for a

(11:22):
very long time. So we're going to go ahead and
get into the Anna Paulina Luna clip that says she
has seen evidence of interdimensional beings and we'll break it down.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Listen.

Speaker 6 (11:35):
When I was stationed at Portland Air National Guard, my
job there was an airfield manager, so I would interface
and work a lot with the fifteen pilots at the unit.
And so there had been an airspace incursion that had
taken place when I was still at the time at
the Guard, and I remember kind of talking to some
of the pilots about it and I was like, what
was that? And they're like, hey, we can't really talk

(11:56):
about it, and no one really wanted to address it.
And so what i'd gathered that had been likely a
UAP and so that kind of was my perspective. Granted,
I also grew up in the generation of the X files,
and you know, I don't know if you remember ninety
four Independence Day. So like for me specifically, I didn't
look at it with like a crazy lens of perspective.

(12:17):
I'm like, you know, you you never know, you know,
we're the only ones out there essentially, But.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Why did you assume that if it's a top secret
encourasion then he couldn't talk about that it wasn't just
a military craft from another country.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
Because of the way that he was discussing it, how
did what he says so he had been he didn't
want to from what I gathered, get taken off flight
status and he's like, I really can't discuss it. We
couldn't really like identify it essentially, and it had outperformed them.
And so that was my first from a military perspective
kind of experience with someone who basically, you know, there's

(12:50):
a stigma within the flight community. Do you want to
lose your security clearance? What you know, is there this
level of crazy that people kind of brand that will
stick with you and kind of ruin your career.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
But doesn't he have instrumentation on his check.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
Well at the time, right, so an older platform, but
he really wouldn't want to even talk about it. And
I bring that up because now with our investigation and
the task force that I run, Actually the reason why
the task force was formed was because of an event
that happened at Eglin Air Force Base where both myself,
Representative Makates and Representative Tim Burchet actually had responded and

(13:26):
gone to investigate multiple Air Force pilots that had come
forward in regards to UAP incidences that had occurred, and
they were alleging that the Air Force was covering it up.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Interesting, I want to pause for a second, because what
she's saying here about pilots is absolutely true. If you
go especially if you're a military pilot, and you go
to report some stuff like hey, I witness a UFO
or what I believe is a alien spacecraft or whatever
it is, that you may say that is very detrimental

(13:56):
to your career, especially in the military.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
And not just that.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
I mean, there's reason why we have so much mental
health issues in our aviation community as it is, because
a lot of pilots are not you know, they're they're
too afraid to go out and get help. If they
do have mental issues, or if they do have PTSD,
or they do have these various factors that may affect.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
Them being able to perform their job.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Although in most cases, you know, and we've talked about
SSRIs on the podcast before, but in most cases, you know,
you could foreseeably get on medicine and you know, fix
whatever issue you have. But the problem is pilots are
too afraid to even do that. I do know that
the Federal Aviation Commission, for example, or administration, they only

(14:40):
have two approved SSRIs that pilots can take, and that
is if they are approved to take them, and that
is if they can get through their medical after whatever,
the pilot comes to their doctor and says, hey, I
got this issue. I got either depression, anxiety, some type
of PTSD stuff. If you go to your doctor as
a pilot, that's very dangerous because yes, they could put

(15:03):
you on some SSRI, but the likelihood that you're going
to get into the airlines, especially if that's the kind
of route you're going, or even in you know, commercial
aviation in general, flying private jets or medflights or police helicopters,
any of that stuff that is all looking at and
taking very seriously, and obviously most of those companies, if

(15:24):
they look at you and you have some type of
mental health record on your FAA record, they're going to
take someone else over you, because it's just sure, you know,
it's just an insurance policy for them. They don't want
to have to deal with that. And especially if they
hire you, you crash the airplane or you crash the helicopter,
whatever the case is, and they say, well, look, you
knew that he had this issue and you still hired him,

(15:46):
then you're setting yourself up for lawsuits. You know, if
you kill two hundred people on board an airplane, someone
is getting sued, and especially the airline itself is going
to be sued. Even though they have, you know, say
a couple of SSRIs that are approved, the reason why
they don't have a lot of other SSRIs approved is
because of the fact of what we've talked about in
the past. There are SSRIs that do very bad things

(16:09):
for people mentally. Although yes, they may need something that
can help them. But I just remember, like when I
was growing up and I was a teenager and I
was getting on SSRIs because of kind of how my
childhood was a lot of those SSRIs antidepressants or whatever
medicine I was taken made me worse, Like, it made
me mentally worse, and it made me in very bad situations.

(16:32):
Over the course of three or four or five years,
I had went on so many different medications that nothing
worked except for maybe one thing eventually, but then it
just kind of made me feel like I was just
not there, kind of not.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
In reality, you didn't really have any emotion or feeling.
And also with those type of medicines, if you forget
to take a dose, you're kind of screwed. Yeah, I
mean you might start hallucinating, you'll feel lightheaded, you feel
like you want to pass out. I mean, it does
some crazy stuff to you. Because I am on one
now I used to be on two. I am on one,

(17:06):
but I mean that just keeps my sanity and it
kind of keeps me even flowing and not up and
down so much. But it does. And I mean I
can tell within six hours if I've not took that medicine.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Yeah, So it's always just kind of dangerous, and especially
if pilots are going to come and say, hey, look,
you know I think I saw UFO or I think
I saw this or that. You know, that's why pilots
have to be very careful about how they say things,
what they say, what platforms they say things on. That's
why it's really tough to get pilots on podcasts, especially
if they've had a UFO encounter or they have seen

(17:40):
things in the sky that they can't otherwise, you know,
just tell the general public they can't really because that
can absolutely come back on them negatively.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
And isn't it true too that when they go through
these health checks, even if you have like something wrong
with your heart or something like that, oh, absolutely you
will not get your license.

Speaker 5 (17:58):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
I mean, there's there's so many things of why you
could get your medical taken in aviation, I mean, and
not even if you're just commercial pilot. I mean, I'm
talking about any pilot. You know, if you're just a
private pilot, there are various ways that you can lose
your medical and if you lose your medical, then you
lose your license. And so it's not like right, you know,
driving a car, it's not like going to the DMV

(18:19):
and getting your license, you know, being a pilot is
you know, it is a very strict protocol as far
as your health goes what they consider to be a
exempt or non exempt status for you as far as
medical goes, and that could be all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 5 (18:34):
I mean, things that you wouldn't even imagine.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
So just understand that military pilots they likely don't want
to just go to someone and say hey, I think
it's all UFO because that's definitely not going to go
well for you.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
Yes, that was that, and like I'm happy to go
into detail on that one, but what I will tell
you is the stuff that I saw Eglin, how the
military responded me being you know, a former service member,
and then ultimately what I saw with the pushback of
the military not even wanting to share with Congress information,
which is a big problem because when you have Congress
that's supposed to be the advocate and voice for the
American people to oversight body and you're being denied access

(19:11):
not just from a base commander, but high level up
at the Pentagon, even Secretary of Defense, it's a problem.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Do you think that it's possible that these are US
vehicles that are top secret?

Speaker 6 (19:22):
I definitely think that there's a level of advanced technology
that the US government has, and I think that that
tech can be housed within the defense contract around realm
and of course some information is going to be classified.
But I can also tell you, and this might sound crazy,
but based on our investigations and stuff that we've seen, Okay,
there is definitely something that I think would rival what

(19:44):
we know currently with physics and a tech that potentially
is out there that we don't have the ability to
reproduce because it would basically be like dropping a cell
phone right off back during the time of maybe cavemands,
so like we just don't have the tech to develop
it yet. What can also tell you is based on
our interviews, and this has been something that you can
go back and watch with the congressional hearings, but I

(20:05):
was actually able to ask some of the witnesses, you.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
Know, what are these things?

Speaker 6 (20:09):
And they keep saying interdimensional. And then when you talk
about the interdimensional aspect of you know, are these things
pre existing maybe outside of what we currently know as
our own dimension. That stuff can kind of all sound crazy,
But at the end of the day, you know, my
job as an investigator is to receive all the information,
decipher it, and then ultimately from a congressional aspect, if

(20:30):
you do have contractors that are withholding information or operating
outside of the purview of the federal government. I mean,
there's budgetary issues, but there's definitely something that I can
tell you with confidence that exists that we don't know
how to explain currently.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
So when you say that it operates outside our understanding
of physics, what specifically are you saying? What happened to I.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
Guess break it down in simple terms is that I
think that some of the tech that exists that whatever
these things have energy things have yeah, well they call
them interdimensional beings. I think that they can actually operate
through the time spaces that we currently have. And that's
not something that I came up with on my own.

(21:14):
That's based on stuff that we've seen, that's based on
information that we've been told.

Speaker 7 (21:19):
And then also too, I think that.

Speaker 6 (21:20):
There's this historical aspect of you know, this gets into
the deeper theories and concepts of religion and I think
the history that we currently know and and that kind
of spins off into another topic of you know, you
have the modern day Bible, you have this aspect of
Bibles that are books of the Bible that have been
removed that explain and kind of touch on these topics.

(21:42):
And I think that we're in a time and age
where you have such a vast amount of information that
we have access to via social media, via your cell phone,
via the Internet, and so it's really changing the way
that we understand, you know, the origins of life and
the spiritual reality that we know.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
When you say interdimensional beings, that they know that these
are interdimensional beings. How do they know that?

Speaker 4 (22:07):
Now we'll say already that you know, Anna here is
talking about books removed from the Bible, right, she's literally
talking about the Book of Enoch. And when you're talking
about interdimensional beings, and she goes further into detail about this,
we're talking about the Watchers. We're talking about the Watchers,
the fallen angels. They also called them the sons of
God rather than the son of man. They called these

(22:30):
spiritual beings the sons of God. And there were two
hundred of them. And these two hundred of them, If
you have not listened to our previous podcast, which we
have quite a few episodes now on the Book of Enoch.
As we have studied more and more of this, what
these spiritual beings did, known as the Watchers, they came down,
had sex with women and human women, and then they

(22:51):
created the Nephlum. Now, there are many people believe that
maybe the Nephlum once they were cast down into Shoal.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Or shill.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
However, you want to say that when the flood happened,
they were cast down to eternity. The only thing that
would inhabit the earth of the souls of Nephlim were
their spirits, and those according to Enoch and the Bible
itself talk about these spirits being demonic spirits, right, and
so we often also hear though of accounts of people

(23:23):
that have potentially been abducted. We've had a lot of
people the very credible accounts. You know Betty and Barney Hill,
for example, that went through hypnosis and they recounted both
separately exactly what they experienced and witnessed. You had Travis
Walton that had the abduction experience, which is the Fire
in the Sky movie. You've had so many notable accounts.

(23:45):
And the weird thing about all these accounts is that
it almost always seems like these beings, whatever they are,
are trying to do some type of scientific experiments, and
it's usually not comforting. It's usually not something in a
place that you want to be. And it seems like
that for most people's account that these beings or these

(24:06):
abduction stories always takes place to where the beings themselves
are not actually talking or speaking. They are telecommunicating. They
are telepathically telling or talking to you, and they're putting
thoughts in your head and they understand what your thoughts are.
This is all something through some type of interdimensional spiritual realm,
whatever that is, whether it's the demonic side or not,

(24:28):
but we know that they are connecting on a different
level than speaking.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
In my opinion, I think they're all different. They're all
the same, but they're all different, if that makes sense.
Like I think interdimensional beings are something different than these
beings that actually abduct people. I think these are real
beings not from a different dimension, but from the same dimension,
and that are able to physically abduct people and take

(24:55):
them to their craft or wherever and do scientific experience.
I know that sounds crazy, and then you know Joe
Rogan's talking about what do you mean interdimensional? But do
you guys not remember all his podcasts when he took
the DMT, Well, no, hens he experiences interdimensional stuff.

Speaker 4 (25:15):
Yeah, he knows exactly what interdimensional is. He's just trying
to ask Anna, what do you mean by interdimensional? Like
I want you to explain it to me, because obviously
Joe Rogan he's an account and experience. Yeah, he knows
which is I would do the exact same thing, even
though I think I know exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
I want you to explain it to me.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
But do you not think all of this going on
right now with all this disclosure. You know, for years
and years and years, nobody would talk about UFOs, nobody
would talk about aliens. You're crazy if you even mentioned
the word alien, But now it's acceptable for us to
talk about that. Do you think this is a project Bluebeam?

(25:54):
Do you think this is like a false flag? Why
are they coming out with this now? And why is
Joe Rogan in the middle constantly? Why isn't he saying yeah,
I believe this or you know, why is he on.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
The face Well, it's his job.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
He has to be on the fence with it, right,
I mean, even us, like if we brought anyone on
here that has any credibility to their name, like I said,
whether they're a part of government or whatever, you have
to hold those people accountable as the elected leaders in
our government, and especially if your government comes to the
biggest podcast, which is Joe Rogan and says, trust me, Bro,

(26:28):
that's basically kind of what she's saying, just trust me.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, And he's like, no, I'm not going to trust you. No,
you're going to explain this, explain it.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
So it's not like he's saying he doesn't believe her,
but he's also saying, I want you to explain this
to me, and especially not just to me, but my audience.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Right, But why do you think they're coming out with
all this now and it's okay to talk about this
stuff when it's not been for so long? Do you
think it's you know, a false flag? Do you think
it's something?

Speaker 5 (26:55):
I don't think so. No.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Why why are we okay to talk about it now? Well?

Speaker 5 (26:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:59):
I mean, yes, you could get into the theory of hey,
you know, the Epstein files have still not come out.
You know, there's a lot of things that were putting
a lot of pressure on the Trump administration, and there's
some things that I guess a lot of you know,
the followers of Trump believe that he has faltered on,
although he's doing I believe, great work in other areas

(27:21):
for sure, but there are things he has faltered on.
Now do I think this is some big sy op
that they're trying to kind of take the conversation elsewhere
away from Epstein, away from all this, I mean, you know,
I don't know, doubtful, only because of the fact, like,
for example, there are people that could say that the
Trump and Putin meeting today in Alaska was another big

(27:42):
media hooplaw you know, Trump literally had beat a B
two bomber and F twenty two fighter jets fly over
Putin's head today as they got off the airplane and
met with each other.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
And guess what Putin said. He said, next time, We're
meeting in Moscow.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, We're gonna meet Moscow next time.
And you know, and likely because he wants to fly
over their jets over Trump's head, right, this is just
a big kind of power play.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
But no, do I believe this is a false flag.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
I don't think so, right And at the very least,
I don't think Anna was sent to Joe Rogan's podcast
to try to manipulate Joe Rogan's audience. I don't think right.
I could be completely wrong, but I just don't think
that's the case. I do for the most part, trust Anna.
I think she is actually out there trying to get information.
She is trying to work on behalf of the American people,

(28:32):
and she is getting a lot of pushback. She is getting,
you know, every time that she wants to actually interview
people in skiffs to where they actually find out further information.
These people will go into the skiffs and whoever that
is over them, they're handlers, I.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Guess we can call they tie their hands.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Yeah, and they're like, no, you're not allowed to say
anything in that skiff at all. And if you do,
just know you're gonna have some shit coming at you.
And literally that might even mean death. Because as David
Grush said as they ask him Anna, Pauline, Lena and
the others in the congressional hearings, when she said, do
you feel in danger? And do you know anyone that
has been in danger because of their life?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, and he' said I think David Grush said that
he believes that he's known people that have been murdered.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Yeah, because of this, because of this topic.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
And That's what's crazy about this whole thing is you know,
in going back to the pilots, if they report these
kind of things, they could even have like special surprise
visitors show up at their door, like you're not going
to talk about this anymore.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
Absolutely, And I think they're probably already there. I think
once they start reporting this stuff within their chain of command,
I think that shit gets nipped in the bud very fast,
at least until they get out of the military. And
maybe there was a few that kind of slipped through
that they did not necessarily sign things that would put
them in prison forever.

Speaker 5 (29:50):
You know, maybe you're.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Thinking about Ryan Graves, David Grush, people like this, but
I'm sure there are tons of other pilots that have
been have had their hands tied, their handcuff they can't
say any thing.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Well, just think about the CIA guy that actually went
to prison that we talked about a few weeks ago,
and he was not allowed to say anything. But once
he did his prison time, you know.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
He in charge.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Yeah, he has free range to talk about whatever he
wants to.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
Absolutely, that so based on testimony would be based on
witnesses that have come forward. But what I can tell
you is just told that they were No, No, that
they've that they've seen things. And what I can tell
you without getting into classified conversations, is that there have

(30:35):
been incidences that I believe where very credible people have
reported that there have been movement.

Speaker 7 (30:44):
Outside of time space that's very vague. Yeah, so look, yeah, look,
have I seen a portal?

Speaker 5 (30:53):
But no?

Speaker 7 (30:54):
Have I seen a spaceship personally?

Speaker 5 (30:57):
No?

Speaker 7 (30:57):
Have I seen evidence of this? Yes?

Speaker 6 (31:00):
Have I seen photo documentation of aircraft that I believe
were not made by mankind?

Speaker 4 (31:07):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (31:08):
Is there historical significance to this yes? Is there multiple
events that go back to I would argue maybe even
before the time of Christ that have documented this in texts?

Speaker 7 (31:20):
Yes? So do I believe that the.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
Government has access to certain technology, Yes, to an extent.
And I believe that certain contractors potentially have back engineered
this tech. I think that that's what can explain the
advancements that we're seeing. But I also believe that this
is a dangerous level of hidden information from the American
people because if you have an aspect of the federal government,

(31:42):
which I can tell you, I with two other members
of Congress were denied access to information at Eglin Air
Force Base pertaining to whistleblowers because of the fact, and
we can get into that story and what happened at
Eglin in a second, But we were denied access and
told that we don't have security clearance or the read
and authority on a special access program. That's a problem
because I'm supposed to represent and be an investigative body

(32:04):
and you have then people who are unelected that are
operating basically in secrecy, and that's a problem.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
That's a big problem.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
And so how do these people have the authority to
do that?

Speaker 6 (32:16):
I think it's been decades of classified secret information. Then
also this aspect of the intelligence community that's been empowered,
and it's kind of serendipitous with timing because when you
talk about the intelligence communities and what they've done essentially
to the trust in this country with the American people,
I think this goes all the way back even into JFK,

(32:39):
with how they basically have operated outside of the purview
of Congress and basically to an extent, have gone rogue
up until recently. You just seeing a big push and
pull to try to reign in these intelligence agencies currently.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, so what I want to bring it back to evidence.
You said that you've seen evidence, like what kind of
evidence have you seen?

Speaker 7 (32:57):
I have seen photos, I have seen.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
What have you seen photos of?

Speaker 4 (33:03):
And I want to stop here because this is the
problem with people in the UFO community that say, Okay,
well we have this podcast, we have Anna Pauline Luna
coming on talking to Joe Rogan. I have seen evidence,
bro I've seen it. David Grush has said this, so
many people have said this, you know, but it's like,
when are.

Speaker 5 (33:21):
You going to give us hard evidence the people? Are
you ever going to do that?

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Because are you just going to keep stringing us along
forever and ever and ever and using this as whatever
it is that maybe you're using it for if you
are like Sherry was talking about, is a psiop as
a false flag?

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Is it any of these things?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Or are you actually going to show us evidence, because
this is what we should be able to see, especially
if we know for sure and certain that we have actual,
hardcore evidence that we have had down spacecraft from other
places or other dimensions even or have communicated in some way,
shape or form with other dimensions or spiritual beings or

(33:57):
whatever the case may be.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
If we know that we should tell the people.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
But it's like Auvi Lobe said, you know, even with
the three I Atlas comment slash spacecraft, if, for example,
when this thing either it gets near Earth or the
closest point to Earth, which will be in October, November, December,
somewhere around there. You know, if that thing did make
a shift and kind of come towards Earth, auvy Lobe said, well,

(34:22):
the stock market would crash. You know, everybody'd be pulling
out their money, They'd be doing all this crazy shit.
It would completely destabilize our economies around the world.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
But what good is money going to do if a comment's.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Get hit the Earth or a spacecraft right right, or
a hostile spacecraft.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
You just don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
But we also understand that like the powerful people in
charge that are in charge of the money, that is everything,
they are the elites for a reason. They make the
billions and trillions of dollars, And so how much of
those people are actually in charge of the dissemination of
information based on stuff like UFOs or maybe changing people's

(34:58):
spiritual minds or thinking on certain things. I don't personally
think that if we actually get hard evidence of interdimensional
beings or spacecraft that it should change anybody's spiritual nature unless.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
We just find out some kind of crazy something.

Speaker 4 (35:14):
But then even if you find something crazy out like
that would almost not even disprove God. But like you know,
put a whole different storyline in that whole story, I mean,
people would still not believe it.

Speaker 5 (35:26):
They're gonna still believe whatever they have believed forever.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
And there is that fact that maybe that's why they
don't want it out there is to screw up religion
because religion has a hard stance in government. I hate
to say that, but is the truth. I think government
agree plays a role. But if you think about the
photos the videos that that government has actually let people see,

(35:50):
you know, you see a fuzzy tic tak video, you
see a fuzzy like not real good video of anything.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Well, because most of that stuff is flear cameras. I mean,
you know, a stuff that we have on advanced fighter jets,
you know that can actually pick that up.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Because I'm think with my own eyes, I've seen things
in the sky that are way better than that.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, And I think there's a.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Lot of people out there that have seen things, and
I just wonder, you know where does all.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
That information go nowhere? It goes nowhere, it goes on
podcasts and you know, the internet and whatever. And then
a lot of times people call those people crazy because
that's you know, that's that's the narrative. But yes, I
agree that we have seen things in the sky that
defy gravity, that defies a simple explanation of advanced technology,
even in my opinion, especially when a one light breaks

(36:38):
off into three and then it goes in the very
direction that's government. Do you I don't think so. I
mean personally, no, I don't think so. I do think that,
you know, even back in you know, Eisenhower days and
some of our older presidents that may have had connection
or communication with extraterrestrials or maybe even spiritual entities. We
don't know for sure, but there have been report and

(37:00):
CIE documents and all this stuff that have been declassified
that say that we have had presence in the past
that have potentially even met, communicated, or made deals with
whatever or whoever we're seeing in the sky. So we
don't know. I think our government definitely knows a lot more.
I'm not necessarily seeing Trump knows more. I'm not necessarily
saying the elected officials know everything there is to know. Obviously,

(37:24):
as Anna is coming on Joe's podcast, she doesn't know
a lot.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
She's seen some things. They're only gonna slow leak information.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yes, but someone knows, Like who is that someone that
knows all that information?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
And that's like the Epstein files for example. Somebody has
that information, but who has it?

Speaker 4 (37:40):
Yeah, exactly Israel. Damn it Israel again, must keep going.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
So I was in a skiff, and I can't discuss
all that was in a skiff. But what I can
tell you is, based on the photos that I've seen,
I'm very confident that there's things out there that have
not been created by mankind.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
It seems crazy that people have access to information that
shows that there's something outside of us that is more intelligent,
at least more capable than we are, and they hide
it from everybody else.

Speaker 6 (38:16):
What I can tell you is that when you have
thousands upon thousands of people around the planet throughout time
that have reported something, right to say that those people
are crazy, to say that, you know, the whole concept
of even just asking the question that you might not
necessarily be psychologically sound, that in itself, you know, that's
a disinformation campaign to get people to shut up about it.

(38:38):
And that's that's a problem. We know that the US
government has not exactly been clean, and a lot of
what they've done with the American people, specifically to the
topic of UFOs you have, actually.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Makes you think that it's probably because there's something there.
If you think about the motivation they had with the
Project blue Book. When Jay Allen Heinech was running Project
blue Book, this specific intention was to discredit all stories, and.

Speaker 6 (39:01):
He ended up ultimately though, after all of his investigations,
becoming someone that was like, ah, I think there's theres something.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
But that's true.

Speaker 6 (39:07):
By the way, a lot of people might not necessarily
go onto Google and look up that information, but you
can actually look up the declassified reports from Project Bluebook.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
What's also interesting.

Speaker 6 (39:16):
Though, is when we're talking about tech, right, the ability
for this tech being that it exists to change dependence
for entire governments on things like fossil fuel, et cetera.
You know, it's look, I think everyone has a moral
obligation to do what they think is right, Okay, and
so if you're in a position of power and you

(39:38):
see something wrong and you're not addressing it, I think
you know this in itself, getting the truth out there
for people to decide for themselves.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
I'm not telling you what to believe.

Speaker 6 (39:47):
I'm just telling you in our investigations and what we
are pushing for in regard to transparency, I would like
to see the federal government roll out some of the
stuff that we've been given access to because I think
that that information belongs in the hands of the American people.
And it's not even just the US government. I mean
there's other countries around the world that have done certain
things like this. Now, look, I've had a lot of
crazy people show up at my office and say, you know,

(40:09):
I like, I've heard it all.

Speaker 7 (40:11):
Yeah, I've been to Mars. You know, I have a
chip in my brain all this stuff.

Speaker 6 (40:15):
We had this one guy that showed up that was
like trying to give us a USB's like put this
in your computer.

Speaker 7 (40:19):
They're going to kill me for this.

Speaker 6 (40:20):
And like runs away and like, I'm not putting that
in my computer. But based on our investigations, what I
will tell you is, you know, there's been two members
of Congress that are actually helping to lead out these
investigations with me. And the reason I say that is
because up until last Congress, if you even said the
word uap or ufo, people actually told us that if

(40:40):
we went forward with these investigations that we were going
to ruin our political careers. And so you know, we're
in the mindset of, well, like why wouldn't we ask
these questions? And also too if no one wants to
touch it, like there has to be something here right right,
And so in these investigations, I mean the amount of
people that will come up to us, very successful people,
to multiple numbers of Congress that believe the same thing.

(41:01):
It's definitely changed in regards to the stigma that used
to exist about disclosure and all this. And so what
we're trying to do currently was there's a big documentary
that was filmed about a year and a half ago,
and we're trying to get a screening up on Capitol Hill.
But look, I think a lot of people say, well,
this is a distraction from everything else happening in the
country right now, And all I'm simply trying to say
is it's not a distraction. The people that are kind

(41:21):
of helping to divulge all this information. You have an
intelligence community, you know, TULCI Gabbard, Radcliffe, Cash Battel. They
have been truly, in regards to our other investigations, extremely
transparent and wanting to get this information out. But it
doesn't mean that within these intelligence communities or isn't pushed back.
And so part of the reason why the task force

(41:42):
was formed pertaining to things like UAP pertaining two things
like the Jeffrey Epstein stuff pertaining two things like the
GfK mlkn RFK investigations is because even though we don't
hold declassification authority, what we're trying to do is push
these agencies and be, if you will, the piple and
the attack dog on trying to get this information released.
And to a lot of these agencies credits. They've been

(42:02):
extremely transparent and we have gone win specifically on the
JFK stuff, and we're still looking to declassify and ask
specifically on the AAP topic, what.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Would be the rationale for keeping a photograph of a
known app absolute not of this world craft from the
American people or.

Speaker 5 (42:19):
From the world.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Why would anybody think that that would be the smart
thing to do is to limit the access of that
information to a very small amount of people.

Speaker 6 (42:28):
I think the part of the fear is is that
you have advisors that think that, you know, the American
people or humanity might not be able to handle it.

Speaker 7 (42:37):
There's this like protective complex.

Speaker 6 (42:40):
But then also too, I think when you are talking
about these things for a lot of people, I think
that it kind of can rock your world a little
bit in regards to where you stand in a faith perspective,
and then also too an aspect of well, how do
you even begin to explain it? All I'm going to

(43:00):
say is, look, and we can go into some of
the books that were removed from what we know as
the modern day Bible. But I read through the Book
of Enoch multiple times, and I'm not saying that these
things are angels. Okay, that's not at all what I'm saying.
But what I am saying is that depending on where
you are in regards to your whole perspective on whether

(43:21):
or not God exists.

Speaker 7 (43:22):
Like I believe in God, I'm a.

Speaker 6 (43:23):
Christian, there has to have been and there's admissions that
there was other creations that God made, but that we
were the most priced creation. And so I think that
this can open up a bigger topic of discussion.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
And she makes a lot of good points here. She's
talking about Book of Enoch. I think it's funny when
she talks about that. Joe Rogan says, well, why do
you think they don't want to give us this information?
And she's like, well, I think you know, they maybe
just want to kind of protect us.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Yeah, the government really wants to protect us, right. We
trust the government and they love to protect us. They
want to make sure that everything is an eye our
best interest. And it has nothing to do with money,
it has nothing to do with control, it has nothing
to do with any of that shit.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
Is to protect you, guys. The old saying like, I'm
with the government, I'm here to help.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
It's like the.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Worst words you ever hear. Brian Colberg kady, I'm here
to help. Yeah, that's sad. But on the opposite version
of that, what about the hundreds of thousands of people
that do see things in the sky and want to
know what the frick these things are. You're hiding it
from us, and we want to know what it is
because we see it with our own eyes. What is this?

Speaker 4 (44:32):
Well, there's a lot of people, I mean, and this
has happened not just in our lifetime, it has happened
for like I said, thousands of years, It's happened for
hundreds of years. We had huge accounts the LA what
was it, the La ufo. Yeah, the LA invasion back
in I don't even know when. It was the thirties
maybe or the forties, I'm not one hundred percent sure,
but this was when some massive light formation came and

(44:53):
some I mean there were like UFOs whatever these things
were that invaded Los Angeles Skies for I think it
was like days in this case, and no one ever
explained that. There's been so many different sightings and occurrences
of UFOs that people have documented, been well documented, whether
it be video, whether it be the mainstream media, the news,

(45:14):
you name it. We've had these accounts of this stuff
for so long. So and I do think that there
have been people that have recorded things that look very real.
I mean, there are actual videos out there that are
real videos, they're not ai that multiple mainstream news sources
have posted and wrote stories on. Most of those just

(45:35):
kind of get discarded, like don't worry about that, don't
worry about that, don't worry about that.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
Now.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Obviously, as we've said many times, yes, there is a
concept to this that, like, you know, how much of
what we see in the skies as reverse engineering technology
versus actual aliens or interdimensional beings. And before we get
into some more on the Ana, Pauline and Luna video,
I did want to get into the Tucker Carlson video

(46:00):
where he talked to Joe Rogan about some of the
things that he heard in the background.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Go ahead, cherry, but just real quick.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Did you catch the part when she said she had
all these crazy people coming to her office that oh, yeah,
you know, be to Mars or whatever. But it was
just really interesting that she said there are some people
that said, oh I heard it elf or I saw
an elf. And I again thought about Joe Rogan and
DMT because they all talk about these elves. They see Yamaza,

(46:26):
they do the DMT.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Yeah, the mad j elves. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
And the DMT thing is so interesting, right DMT For
those that don't know a lot about it, DMT is
actually produced from our brain firm. I believe it's our
panel glan. I know the animals produce more DMT than humans.
Do you can actually go out and get DMT. I
don't know if I mean, it's not like readily available,

(46:50):
like if you go out and try to find weed
or something. But but DMT is something that you can
actually take and it puts you in this place. Many
people think that our dreams actually are some how connected
to DMT and the DMT release in their brains. There
also is a lot of people that believe that animals
behave the way they do or they sense things more
than we can because of their DMT release and they

(47:12):
have more DMT release. So it's almost like certain animals
and there are certain animals that release more DMT, there
are certain animals that have higher concentration of DMT release
in their brain. If you look at those animals in particular,
they're often always very smart.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
They sense things.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Other you know, that we cannot or other animals cannot
sense things, and it's almost like they're they're tapping into
that kind of world, that that other dimension. And we've
talked too about there have been multiple experiments with DMT,
and in particular, there was one that there was seven
or eight people that did DMT at the same time,

(47:49):
the same place, and they all went to the same
place in their DMT trip whatever that.

Speaker 3 (47:54):
Was, yeah, and they all saw the same elves or whatever,
And I believe Joe Rogan is seeing these elves that
they talk.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Yeah, there's a lot of people that.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
So in a way, And Paulina Luna just called Joe crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:05):
No, no, she's not calling Joe crazy. It's just that,
you know, I don't think people understand that there is
a realm that our brains cannot necessarily access right and DMT,
I believe allows your brain to be able to access
that right and that realm. And there's other ways I
guess you can go about that. I know, for example,
that Ron White, the comedian, you know, he was one

(48:27):
of the biggest drinkers. He was always one of the
guys that went on stage with his liquor. Usually it
was bourbon or something, and most of his shows he
would be pretty shitty by the end of him.

Speaker 5 (48:38):
That was just his thing.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
That was what made him, what most people thought made
him funny, was he would get on stage, he would
have a cigar, he would have his bourbon, he would
get drunk throughout the show.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
He was really funny.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
And then one day he went down and did ayahuasca,
which is similar to DMT, and this actually was the
only thing that ever got.

Speaker 5 (48:56):
Him off of the alcohol.

Speaker 4 (48:58):
It instantly cured him from ever want now call again.
And I think that he went into this place understanding
and wanting that to happen and to come out of
this experiment or experience, and it did happen. And he's
actually funnier in some cases, people say now than he
was when he was drinking. So it's interesting. And they've
used DMT in ayahuasca. You can get those people. You

(49:20):
can go down to Mexico or wherever it's where you
have these doctor not doctors, but they're.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Called like medicine doctors.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
Yeah, they're kind of like medicine doctors, but they're there
with you when you go through this experience and they
they're there to like make sure you're calm and and
when you get into this realm, some people freak out.
They feel like they're dying. Some people do have that
kind of experience. But that's why these I don't know
what you call these people, but that's why you have
the companions next to you that kind of guide you

(49:47):
through the process. And it's so interesting. But it's also
the craziest thing is like, how do you put someone
on something a DMT release and then they all see
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (49:57):
Yeah, and that's what's crazy too, And do you not
I think that when we're talking about interdimensional beings, this
possibly could be what they're doing to get to us.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Maybe it's possible, and and maybe when we go to
them in some of these dings, maybe they're seeing us.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Yeah, and they're like, how in the hell did they
get here?

Speaker 5 (50:16):
And that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
And by the way, guess I've never like, I've never
touched mushrooms, I've never done DMT, I've never done really
basically anything.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
I've been a good boy for the like as far
as drugs go.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
And the main reason I've never really done drugs is
because of the fact that I do have an addictive
personality and so like, I don't want to do a
drug that I might like because if I like it,
then I'm gonna be like, oh, I need more of this,
and I just don't want to do that.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
But oh, that's kind of like when I got my
teeth pulled the other day and I had the laughing gas.
Oh my gosh, I was like trying to act like
I wasn't like feeling it, so they give me more.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
Oh my god, They're so retarded because I loved it.
That's hilarious.

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So I wanted to go into this before we get
into some more of the Annapaulina Luna interview. Tucker went
on Joe Rogan, and this is what Tucker said about
what he knew and what he has heard behind the
scenes about what these UFO things really are. And the
reason why I say that maybe we should listen to
Tucker a little bit is that Number one, if you
guys heard our episode the other day where we talked

(52:06):
a little bit about Nick Fintes and uh, Tucker Crossing
and kind of there at the bait and yeah, canas
soans and then you know, we know for sure now
that Tucker Crosson's dad was appointed. I think it was
by Reagan or whoever. It kind of almost ahead the
CI in some way. It's not necessarily the top, but.

Speaker 5 (52:25):
He was there.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
He was up there, and so Tucker absolutely has connections.
And then since he has moved on from now mainstream
media and you know, his dad is now dead. I
believe his dad is dead now, Yeah, his dad's dead,
But he has connections. He hears things behind the scenes,
and this is what he went on Joe Rogan and
said a little while back, probably about a year or.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Two ago, listen, good experience.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
The deeper level is what.

Speaker 8 (52:52):
Okay, So if they're spiritual beings, which I believe they are,
like it's a binary. They're either you know, you're on
team good or team bad. You can assign any name
to it you want. But like, what are these things?
Are they good or bad? And and I think some
of them are bad? And if the US government knows that,
or elements the people within the US government know that,

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then you know, then they're serving a bad force.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
And well when you say spiritual, like what makes you
draw that conclusion that they're spiritual?

Speaker 5 (53:24):
What's the obvious?

Speaker 8 (53:25):
I mean spiritual maybe the wrong words supernatural? You know,
they're beyond nature as we understand it. I mean, obviously
they are. I mean, just chart their physical behavior. It
doesn't you know, it goes outside of what we understand
about physics, no visible means of propulsion, you know, coming
at indescribable speed, hitting the ocean, continuing at speeds that

(53:46):
are impossible under sea. I mean, in other words, if
I if I take it, you know, nine millimeters around
of seven six two by thirty nine and shoots you
at fifty yards underwater in a swimming pool. And it's
even more intense in saltwater because it's denser. You could
catch bullet if it even makes it to you, right,
So if you have a craft, any object underwater that's
traveling at five hundred knots as measured by sonar, right there,

(54:09):
you're challenging understanding physics, like what is that?

Speaker 5 (54:11):
How can that be?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
So they've they've tracked that, They've tracked things going five
hundred knots under the sea.

Speaker 8 (54:19):
Yeah really, yeah, much much faster than any object could
can actually go under under CEO for sure. Oh yeah,
there's a lot of stuff going on underwater, and a
lot and there's video of these things coming out of
the sky into the water and also emerging from the water.

Speaker 5 (54:39):
Right Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Want to stop for a second because Tucker makes a
good point here. He says, you know, if our government
is not telling us these things and these things are
spiritual in nature but meaning not good evil, potentially, like
is our government serving these things? Like you know, it's
really scary and you got to think about that, right
if we do you communicate with these things, we have

(55:01):
some type of relationship with these things, and you might
ask yourself, how would the governments around the world. And
I'm not saying all of these governments are serving these
things necessarily, I'm not even saying ours is, but you
oftentimes ask yourself, it seems like the government's always working
against us, not for us. They're always doing some kind
of really shady shit behind the scenes, even the Epstein stuff,

(55:21):
with the pedophilia and all of this other craziness. This
is sins of flesh, which is exactly what the watchers did,
and with the human women, it was a sin of flesh.
This is literally a major reason why the flood happened,
and there was a Noah's Ark to begin with, was
because of the sins of flesh, which was the fallen angels.

(55:44):
The two hundred fallen angels that came down descended from Heaven.
They went and decided that they were going to rebel
against God, and so they then had sex with women
to create Nephlum to then control the people.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
Right and then, as the.

Speaker 4 (55:59):
Bible talks about, after the Nephlom are cast down, those
spirits are still going to be on the earth, and
those spirits will try everything they possibly can to manipulate
and put people in power and control when they need to,
because that was what Nephelm used to do in Enoch.
They literally controlled the people they were created and then
controlled the people.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Weren't they on kind of God's counsel, and they went
against God because they didn't like what God was doing.
And that's why they went against.

Speaker 5 (56:26):
God, don't.

Speaker 4 (56:27):
We don't know if the watchers, you know, the sons
of God, were necessarily one hundred percent on the council.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
We don't know that. I don't think.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
What we do know is that they were at the
very least two hundred fallen angels.

Speaker 5 (56:39):
They were, you know, up there in God.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
They were pissed off about what God was doing, and
that's why they became fallen angels. Are they went against
God is because they didn't like what was happening on earth.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
Well, there's also other theories that believe that God actually
sent them down to watch over mankind and they instead
rebelled against God and wanted to become their own gods.
So it also talks about that as well, and these
two hundred like that theory better well, no, absolutely, and
these two hundred fallen angels, these two hundred watchers came down,

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they met on Mount Herman and they all kind of
essentially talked to each other and said, this is what
we're going to do, and are we all down to
do this?

Speaker 3 (57:21):
We're going to rebel, that makes them sound like they're
really bad. But if they were rebelling against God because
they didn't like what was going on earth for example,
you know, murder and people having sex without marriage, or
you know, anything that goes against God's God's laws, I
felt like part of that was because they're rebelling against

(57:43):
God because he didn't like they didn't like the way
that God was letting Earth go.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
I have no idea. Enoch does not necessarily talk about that.
It just talks about the fact that the watchers came down,
they rebelled against God, and they decided that they were
going to become the gods of Earth, and then they
created the Nephilum, which would then rule over the people.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
And by the way, that are giants.

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Yes, they are giants. I mean, that's what the Enochics explains.
Is also what the Bible, the Old Testament, and I
believe it also mentions that in a New Testament as well.

Speaker 5 (58:14):
So are the spirits?

Speaker 4 (58:16):
Are the things that we're seeing in our skies and
all that stuff, and maybe who might be controlling our
governments and our world leaders in our power structure? Are
these beings of Nephlom of past nefhlum spirit, which is evil?
Are they controlling some politicians or our government? I know
that sounds badshit crazy, but I'm just telling you it's possible.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
So it's so blurry though, I don't think it's that
trans medium video.

Speaker 8 (58:44):
Yeah, I don't think some of it's that blurry. I
think some of it's crystal clear.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
We just don't have access to it zoja mean just
we haven't seen it correct, So they have some stuff
for sure.

Speaker 8 (58:54):
So but there's just a lot going on underwater, and
it's it's measured and so whatever. I mean, these are
all again this is like the most obvious, observable level
of it. But then you just ask yourself what is
this actually? And you know, if there's been extensive knowledge
of this for decades, like maybe eighty years at least,
if not going back to the thirties ninety years, you

(59:16):
know to what end. So there are two possible explanations
obvious explanations. The first is the one you often hear,
which is this is so heavy that if the public
were to know about it, it would be just disruptive.
It would be too scary, Like you don't want to
scare people for no good reason, there's nothing we can
do about it. And you also don't want to suggest that,
you know, the US military isn't capable of protecting the country,

(59:40):
the homeland. And it does suggest that if you can't
control these objects in your airspace, and that's known they can't,
that's known. Okay, then that suggests a limit to the
power of the US military. And you don't want to
tell people that because then they like won't believe that
they're safe.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
I get it.

Speaker 8 (59:58):
But then there's a deeper level, which is like, Okay,
what's your relationship with these things? What is the US
government's relationship with these things? And there's evidence that there
is a relationship and that it's a longstanding and that
raises like a lot of questions about intent and so

(01:00:18):
like what is that? And I just personally decided, you know,
and people have been hurt by these things, you know,
that's a fact.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
That's a fact.

Speaker 8 (01:00:27):
It's a noble fact, it's a provable fact.

Speaker 5 (01:00:30):
And killed.

Speaker 8 (01:00:31):
And I'm not saying millions people have been killed by
whatever these things are, but people have been killed, and
it's known because it's working its way through the courts
out of the VA. So I don't know an object
that is by definition supernatural, it's above the laws of
nature as we understand them, and that has resulted in

(01:00:51):
the deaths of people, But we don't spend enough time
thinking about like what that adds up to, Like not good?
Actually not good?

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
How many do you think have died from these I
don't know, but I mean I and is it radiation sickness?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Is?

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Like what is?

Speaker 8 (01:01:07):
So the person that I talked to, I interviewed someone
who was a Stanford Medical School professor who's out there
and worth talking to.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
By the way, I'm talking about Gary Nolan.

Speaker 8 (01:01:17):
That's exactly what I'm talking about. Was effectively an expert
witness in these cases. So he's an expert in brain injury.
Do you know him? Yeah, Yeah, entirely credible person, checks
all the boxes that I care about. He's he's got patents,
so he's like a lot of Stanford University. She's like
independently rich. He flew to I live in a remote place,
and he flew to my place at his own expense

(01:01:39):
because he wanted to tell his story. So he's got
no profit motive here. He's the most highly credentialed person
at the University. Practically at Stanford Medical School, we consider
that a big deal. And he's worked on this for
over ten years, assessing the injuries to US US men

(01:02:01):
from being in close proximity to these objects or having
contact with these objects. And his conclusion, as you know,
because you've talked to him, is that there's some kind
of energy coming off here that scrambles people's brains or
kills them. And it's not exactly radiation, at least in
his telling to me so anyway. But the point is
people have died, yeah, And so you know, it does

(01:02:27):
raise a lot of questions about like, what the hell right,
what the hell American citizens have died and you're hiding it.
Why are you hiding that? Why would you hide that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Perhaps because they don't have any explanations, because it's so
beyond our comprehension that they're still trying to piece it together.
Like I would wonder how much interaction they really do
have with these things. Like if I was from another
planet or if I was some interdimensional being, I don't
know how much i'd give a shitout the president. I

(01:03:01):
don't know how much i'd give a shit about the government.
I would probably look at this infantile race, this species,
this bizarre territorial apes with thermonuclear weapons, this very weird species.
I'd probably look at them as very chaotic, and I
wouldn't really have much concern for who's running it, especially

(01:03:25):
if they have the ability to travel at insane speeds
and go undetected.

Speaker 8 (01:03:31):
And well, it depends like that. Okay, So the temple
that you're using to understand this is like science fiction, right.
These are an advanced race of beings from somewhere else.
But the temple that every other society before us has
used is a spiritual one. There is a whole world
that we can't see that acts on people, a supernatural world.

(01:03:52):
It's acting on us all the time, for good and bad.
Every society has thought this before ours. In fact, every
society in all recorded history has thought that until I'll
be specific, August nineteen forty five, when we drop the
Adam bombs on Hiroshimaanagasaki and all of a sudden, the
West is just officially secular.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
We're God.

Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
There is no God but us, and that's the world
that we have grown up in. But that's an anomaly,
like no one else has ever thought that. There's never
been a society that thought that every other society has assumed,
and they've had all kinds of different explanations, and the
details differ, but the core idea does not differ. It
never has differed from caves until now that we're being

(01:04:28):
acted on by spiritual forces at all times. And so
to someone born before we're living before nineteen forty five,
I think it would have been much more obvious that
this is the thing that every society has written about,
and in fact, that battle, that unseen battle around us,
that spiritual battle, has been the basis of every society

(01:04:53):
of religion, every religion, not just Christianity.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
So like it just once.

Speaker 8 (01:04:59):
You discar you're very very recent assumptions relatively speaking about
how the world works, You're like, well, that kind of
seems like the obvious explanation right.

Speaker 5 (01:05:09):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
And that was Tucker explaining kind of his thoughts and
thought process on all of this, and it's you know,
it's troubling. We know, we have reports, we have people
that have worked on and it has been going through
to courts actually through the VA and various others to
where there are families that cannot get any compensation or

(01:05:31):
any insurance or any coverage because of what their service members,
what their family members went through, because of their interaction
with these beings or these things. And we're talking about
traumatic brain injury or death, and so a lot of times,
some of the reports I have read, and some of
this stuff is declassified, is a lot of it did

(01:05:54):
look like radiation type of sickness, But then there were
very unexplained things to where their brain was. Essentially, it
was almost like they had a massive head trauma type
injury to where they had you know, just imagine someone
that had the worst stroke you could imagine. So they
couldn't walk, they could not speak, they were completely a

(01:06:19):
vegetable for.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
The rest of their lives.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
And those were in some cases, I guess you can
say the ones that I'm not going to say lucky,
but they are the ones that survived. And then there
were others that did not survive. Now, some of the
reports I've seen that there's at least four or five
hundred service members that have either died or had traumatic
brain injury from encountering craft or beans. And oftentimes these

(01:06:42):
things were overseas. They weren't necessarily always particularly in the
United States.

Speaker 5 (01:06:49):
When it happened.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
It was when we were on missions, whether it be
in the Middle East or wherever, that we would have
these instances occur. And so when a lot of these
family members that were getting denied coverage by our government
because of what their family member was involved in and
the you know, I guess this specific nature of that

(01:07:11):
incident they were denied coverage, they would go to Stanford University.
Gary Nolan was the guy that you know, was kind
of looking at all these brain scans and all this stuff.
Could not explain it. The only thing he could explain was,
this looks like some type of It's almost like putting
your brain in a massive microwave, yeah, and frying it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
Yeah, it's huge radiation.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
And it's not even just your brain. They often see
heart damage, liver damage, kidney damage.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
And if you notice, like when we see these ups
that come among bases, they tend to go or gravitate
towards where radiation is or nuclear weapons are. Yeah, they
gravitate towards these places, and sometimes they'll shut down the
entire post.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
Yeah for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
It's so interesting because there's also been the people and
we've talked about on others shows to where they say
that this is all part of the big plan. They
want to make you believe that these things are coming down.
They are, you know, deactivating our nuclear silos. They're activating
our nuclear silos. We've seen some reports back in history
that says this was going to be the big plan.

(01:08:16):
We talked about on the last episode with three I Atlas,
and we kind of went in in a little bit
of detail on that. But the big question is, I guess,
is we have to figure out what they are. We
have to have transparency, we have to have disclosure, but
you know who's actually going to give us disclosure. The
one thing I think that Tucker talked about here over
and over again was he believes our government has a

(01:08:38):
relationship with these things. And I've heard this before. We
already talked about that earlier. I think that we have
had presidents that have established relationships with these entities to
where we don't know exactly what that relationship consist of.
We don't know what the guidelines are on how we
interact with each other. But you know, if you look
at the way our government reacts, if you look at

(01:08:59):
all secrecy, if you look at even the EPSTEIN, you
look at all the crazy shit that's always happened, President's
being killed, and you name it. There's something. I'm not
saying this because of interdimensional beans. I'm not even saying
this because of the UFOs. But if you do believe
the narrative that, hey, maybe we do have a relationship
with these craft, you have to ask yourself why and

(01:09:21):
what is the nature of that relationship, because I think
that's very important.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah, and why is there no disclosure?

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
Yeah? Well there's no disclosure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:28):
I mean because I think if they disclosed what it's
actually going on, you know, And as they all say,
I think it kind of reshapes our minds thinking, whether
it be biblically or just the way we live our
lives every day. How do we react, how do we
wake up, what do we think about? How do we
think about life? In the same way again, if we

(01:09:48):
know that, for example, we have beans from another place
that we have on this earth, And then the bigger
question is like if you do come out as the
US government and say, hey, look, we have intermentional beings
that we have had contact with. We have biologics for example,
these are physical beings of nature.

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
We've had reports of some of.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
These aliens, these biologics being small little things that maybe
they're like three or four feet tall. They don't necessarily talk,
but we've heard rumors and speculative speculation that they are telepathic.
They are able to communicate with you through some other
realm and some other frequency. I guess you can say
they have harnessed that however that is. You know, obviously

(01:10:30):
some of the descriptions of aliens don't necessarily line up
with Nephlam or any of that stuff, because they're often
the opposite of Nephlam. Nefhlum were giants. These aliens that
we hear about are small.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Yeah, well it depends on which aliens, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
But we also have to understand that if Nephlam are
abound on the earth, as the Bible talks about, and
they are the evil spirits, you know, one of the
things that the Nephilum always hated. They were jealous of people.
They were jealous of humans. They hated the fact that
they were not pure flesh and blood and humans that
were God's people. And that's why they've always kind of

(01:11:05):
hated mankind. That's why they ruled mankind. That's why they're
very heinous them and they are, including cannibalism, and it
kind of explains an enoch, But you know, could they
potentially inhabit a physical body to be able to actually
physically react and interact with mankind today?

Speaker 5 (01:11:23):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
The Bible doesn't necessarily talk about that. It does talk
about the fact that we are not of flesh and blood,
but rather a principalities and kind of spirits, right, and
that is what we battle with more than anything.

Speaker 3 (01:11:36):
Yeah, And what do you think at this point, knowing
everything you know and as long as we've done this podcast,
do you think these things are all the same thing
all the way around? Is it all government, is it
government that learned through reverse engineering? Is it kind of both?
Or is there way more things than we even understand?

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
I mean, if, like I said, there's people that you
can ask about the Bible that say, look, if there's
anything on this earth.

Speaker 5 (01:12:05):
That is not human, it is not good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I just don't believe that. Yeah, and I hope believe
that we are being visited by things that are not
just like devil or spiritual in nature.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
Yeah. And the Bible also talks about archangels.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Archangels which they extensively talked about especially in Enoch with
the various archangels that helped Enoch and kind of fought
battles against the Nephelum and the spirits and all of them.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
Archangels are also on this earth.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
Yeah, but I also think that this is more supernatural
than spiritual. And that's why I was asking the question earlier,
like what do you think the difference is? Because supernatural
and spiritual, to me, are two different things.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
I think that people often also kind of rush over
the fact that the Bible also talks about that there
are archangels. There are angels also on earth that also
watch over Earth today. So you know, are we saying
that the only things that people could see or communicate
with are evil in nature? Because I think, and you

(01:13:09):
guys can correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, I
want you guys to do some research on this, and
I will as well. Is it possible that you could
also communicate and interact with angelic beings that are of
God and not of evil? Because according to the Bible,
throughout the Bible, all these people over thousands of years
interacted with angels. I mean, most of the accounts of

(01:13:33):
all of these, whether it be disciples or just various
characters in the Bible.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
They mostly interacted with what they believe to be angels.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Yeah, I get that. But my point about this whole
thing is we are not the only intelligent life in
the universe. There is other intelligent life out there. And
I'm not saying that I'm an angel. And because I
live on Earth and I'm a human being doesn't mean
that I have powers out side of you know, anything else.

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What I'm saying is I think there is intelligent life
outside of Earth.

Speaker 5 (01:14:06):
Yes, I can.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Visit us, and it doesn't have to be spiritual in nature.

Speaker 5 (01:14:12):
I get what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
So, yeah, what you're basically saying is is that you know,
from a Christian perspective, they believe that like anything that
we're going to witness or encounter is all from a
spiritual being, whether it be evil or good. Right, But
what you're saying is is that we may also be
visited by other creatures or beings or interdimensional and.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
They they were made by God. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
Yeah, I mean, if you believe that God created the
universe and all things, then yes, you would you would
say that they were also created. The Bible never really
talks about that necessarily right. I mean, the Bible doesn't
say that there are other planets that he also created
and and and and you know, manifested these these places
like Earth and people like humans are close to that.
I mean, it doesn't talk about that. Does that mean

(01:14:59):
that it is not there? Does that mean that that
doesn't exist? I mean it goes back to the argument
of why did they take out the Book of Enoch?
And what other books or what other text have we
not been privy to? Like what other things have we
not ever read because they took them out thousands of
years ago?

Speaker 5 (01:15:17):
Or what if.

Speaker 4 (01:15:18):
There were books or text before anything we're even talking
about now?

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
And I understand there are definitely people out there right
now that's like, no, the Bible is one hundred percent,
word for word the truth, and if you believe anything
outside of that, then you're wrong. But I think what
Sherry saying, obviously we're on our spiritual journey. I just
think that there is possibilities that we don't understand everything.
And I don't think we do understand everything. I don't
think anybody in the Bible understood everything. And so I

(01:15:48):
agree with your point to say that it's not necessarily
the case that everything we encounter on this earth, whether
it be interdimensional.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
In port yeah, whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Yeah, that's not to say that everything necessarily is related
to the context and the lens of the Bible. It
could be things outside that we have no idea about.
And I think that's what you're saying, and I think
that's very possible. And so I will say that I
do agree with that with that point, and I also understand,
especially with the people that we talk to on a

(01:16:24):
regular basis, most of those people would probably disagree. Most
of those people will say, Nope, I don't believe that, because.

Speaker 5 (01:16:30):
This is the way it is.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
This is what the word says, and it doesn't mention
anything about that. So I'm not believing it. But just
because something doesn't necessarily mention it or or talk about it,
you know, in text or terms, doesn't mean it don't exist.
But also, I think the Bible talks about things that
we don't understand completely. There are various heavens and multiple heavens.
There there are other places that is not that never

(01:16:54):
goes into detail. And I understand that, like people wrote
the Bible for the most part, right, and you know,
so Oftentimes people think, well, it's God's word, and that's
what Christians think is the Bible is God's word written
through people. But are we to say that the people
and all the people that were writing the Bible back
in the day were perfect and they got everything right

(01:17:14):
for some reason because it was back then. I don't know, right,
I mean, do we trust everything that is written today?

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:17:22):
And I'm not saying the Bible as false or not accurate.
I do believe in the Bible. I just think that
there are things that maybe we don't know about that
are not included in the Bible for whatever reason, whether
that is because of they didn't want to include it,
like the Book of Enoch, and like other books that
were also not a part of the sixty six books

(01:17:44):
or the canon as they call it.

Speaker 5 (01:17:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:47):
You guys, let us know what you think, because that
is an interesting topic, right, I mean, the topic is
if some of these things are interdimensional, if they are
this kind of spirit world, does that mean they have
to be a the Bible? Does that mean that we
can get to the conclusion of what they are based
on the Bible. That's where I would probably say maybe not,

(01:18:10):
And I think that's what you're kind of saying.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm it would be crazy
for me to think that we are the only living
things in the universe.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
Yeah, I agree. I one hundred percent agree with that.
All right, but guys, that's going to do it for
us on this episode. Let us know what you guys think.
Let us know do you think that everything that we
are seeing today is all through a biblical lens or
do you think there is room for other topics and speculation,
Because I think that's what Sherry was saying. I think
it is possible, like we have a massive universe and

(01:18:40):
has all of that been explained to us in the
Bible word for word and I don't think.

Speaker 5 (01:18:44):
It has been. But let us know what you think.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
Reach out to us on social media until next time, guys.
This is what should I do by loving caliber love
you guys, peace out, peace out, guys.

Speaker 9 (01:19:00):
So think slightly a big and feels you first, means
too and just maybe it's a costs.

Speaker 7 (01:19:17):
Next Oh, let's say that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
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us to finish and at dance to bubis to loss
of your house to pay don't you say that stays
for last? Assume she can't consis consid' shot. Maybe want

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to do.

Speaker 9 (01:19:54):
Radition. We're not trying to choice to get it cost
you student the school.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Just give me.

Speaker 9 (01:20:08):
Tell me what do.

Speaker 10 (01:20:13):
They says get into this baby you host not these
two acts and just babies acoustics.

Speaker 9 (01:20:26):
Like lessen that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
I just want to get out of the table baby
a baby econicasers can feeling a baby a to do
somebody sit.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
To do it?

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
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Speaker 6 (01:21:02):
When you look as.

Speaker 9 (01:21:09):
I mean need to tell her I want this spell
if you have to say.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Standing there, just want to get out of the baby
feel our babycus feeling a babys to do pusy ant
your bodies bodies to see us ways to think about

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I have to do some baby you want to do
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