National Guard in DC & 19 States: Necessary Security or Federal Overreach?

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
The monca from the country come to the city.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Hello and welcome to Investigator of podcast. I'm your host
chat alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're
talking about President Donald Trump that has ordered the National
Guard in the nineteen States, a move that has sparked
with praise and concern, and supporters see it as a
strong step to restore order, while critics warn it edges
towards martial law and a police state. Now, the Constitution
gives the president authority to federalize the Guard under certain conditions,

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but when armed troops appear on American streets, we will
naturally ask is this simply about protecting communities or or
is it something larger and folding behind the scenes. So
now we'll break down the constitutional arguments, the concerns about
federal overreach, and whether this deployment is a temporary safeguard
or a signal of deeper shifts on how power is
exercised in America. Welcome to the show. It is August

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twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, and the name of this
song is Welcome to the City by ingrid Wit and
guys National Guard, welcome to the cities, because.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
You are now in our cities, you are in d C.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
You were about to be deployed to nineteen other states.
And what we're going to talk about is is this constitutional?
Is Trump doing the right thing? And Sherry, I want
to say this too. I think there are people on
both sides of this. Obviously, you have a lot of
people on left that say, hey, this is unconstitutional. Trump
should not absolutely not be doing this. I literally just
saw thirty minutes ago to Alex Jones had posted a

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new video where he's saying, is Bill Maher correct about
Trump is rolling out a slow coup? He is starting
this kind of process with either National Guard or military
to where if he wanted to maintain power or remain
in office in twenty twenty eight, Could this be kind
of the setup to that? But could this actually be

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about what Trump ran on right, which is law and order?
He said, Look, we got to restore justice. We got
to restore law and order. As Trump said and as
he ran on leading up to the twenty twenty four election,
he said, Number one, we have to close our borders
because we have an invasion at our borders into America. Well,
guess whatever to pass five or six months, we've almost
had nobody come across our borders. And then on top

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of that, you have now the National Guard inside of
DC to where they're saying there has been a massive
increase in crime in DC. We've heard of people congress members, staffers, senators,
you name it, that have been mugged, carjacked, beaten. And
we saw this actually also under the Biden Harris administration
during the Antifa riots, during the BLM riots. But the

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thing is, they didn't give a damn right. They did nothing.
And unfortunately in some of these cities like DC and
Los Angeles and Chicago and New York, these are all
left Democrat run cities.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Yeah, but what do you think Trump is supposed to do?
Damn if you do, and damn if you don't, like,
don't restore order or do like He's got to do something.
People are not safe to even go down to the
cities anymore. In a lot of these states. You can't
even go to a restaurant. There's tourists that don't even
go to New York anymore. They don't go to Chicago anymore.

(03:26):
We used to go to my mom's.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
House in Chicago.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Every year, we'd ride the train down to Michigan Avenue,
we go shop, we go out to dinner. We don't
feel safe to do that anymore. So do you want
to be in a place where you can't even go
out and be a tourist? Or do you want to
establish law and order and get rid of these awful
criminals on the streets.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yeah? And I think that's the thing too.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
Sherry is like, even when you would go to Chicago,
which basically every single time, but Sherry always go to Chicago,
usually by herself.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Or with her daughter. I usually never go to Chicago.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
She goes, and I'm always obviously very worried about her going,
especially if her mom or stepdad or whoever is like, hey,
let's go to the city, let's go to dinner, let's
go show you some cool things around the city. I
just don't like that, right because I feel like, you know,
as we already talked about on the last episode, I
want to protect you. I want to make sure you're
safe and secure and okay. But going into these places
like Chicago, like DC, like New York City, like Los Angeles,

(04:23):
you know, I can't even imagine like if I had
a daughter in these cities, how I would feel because
I would feel like they are not safe. I would
feel like that the politicians and the people that are
running these cities are definitely not doing a good job. Now, no,
r do they care, No, they don't care, but in
some ways they're doing it on purpose.

Speaker 7 (04:41):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Now, if we look back just for a second, right,
let's talk about some of the far left prosecutors that
were put in place during the BLM stuff, during the
Antifa riots. This really started under Obama with the Ferguson
Missouri riots, and then beyond that you have you know
that was Michael Brown, and then beyond that you had
George Floyd. You had so many other instances to where

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you know, the left or the Democrats wanted you to
believe that all police officers are going after black people.
And this was a targeted thing what I think it
really was about, because it seems like, obviously as you
dig into the BLM stuff, the BLM really wasn't for
the black communities. They were more for making themselves millions
of dollars than whoever were the chapter leaders. But they
were really just an organized chaos organization. And what they

(05:28):
were doing was they were being funded by people like
George Soros and the globalists to go into America, disrupt
the cities, disrupt the government and create this political divide
on a way that we've never seen ever in the
history of America. So now Trump is sending out a
National Guard. He's already put them in DC. I think
they've been there about two weeks and so there's.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
A lot of sable but they say the crime rate
is way down already.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Absolutely, I mean there are people that are going to
dinner now. They feel safe, They feel more secure, you
know when you have National Guard on your streets alongside
the police.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
And by the way, in DC.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
These guards are armed, which is kind of toeing the
line a little bit with the Constitution, and we're going
to break down like what does the Constitution actually say
about this? But when you see these Guard members in
the streets of DC and you see the city appear
to be safer. Although yes, there's people on the left
that are doing interview saying, well, actually feel less safe

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now that the Guard is on the streets and the military.

Speaker 5 (06:26):
Yeah, I don't want to take my kids to school
seeing armed men on every corner. But I'd rather have
that than armed men that are mugging me.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, And that's the funny thing. It's like
some of these people they interview, you know, it's like,
do you feel that you're not safer by seeing the
National Guard because you're one of the ones that do
the muggings and the carjackings. Is that why you feel
a little less safe now that there's actually law and
order on the streets that are patrolling and making sure
that you're not going to harm innocent civilians? Or is

(06:58):
it because of just some political talking point. Now keep
it in mind, Shary and I probably on this episode
will play a little devil's advocate. I'll probably be more
devil's advocate. You'll probably be more kind.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Of for it.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
And by the way, I am for this. But we
also have to talk about the other side of this.
As I said a minute ago, you know, if Biden
and Harris were doing this four years ago or three
years ago, and I know you have a different point
to this, but if they were doing this and they
started rolling out National Guard and say Republican cities, all
the Republican cities in most cases do not have the

(07:30):
crime that you'll see in a lot of these Democrat
led cities. But if in any shape or form you
started seeing the Biden Harris administration rolling out national guards
through multiple states, that would worry me just because of
what my opinion and thoughts were and are of Biden
and Harris. It's like, are they about to set up
a police state? We worried about that. Even when they

(07:51):
were setting up the fencing around the Capitol, then of
the fencing around the White House and all these other
government buildings. I was kind of worried about that because
I was like, what the hell are they doing. It's
like they're they're separating, you know, the government from the
people people. Yeah, and so you know, obviously you have
that take on it. But then there's also some conspiracy
to this, right, And we're going to play a clip

(08:12):
and just a bit about like what is there something
maybe bigger going on behind the scenes, because we also
know about underground tunnels in Washington, d C. Now, I
know this sounds nuts, and Sherry, you kind of rolled
your eyes a little bit, but what I'm telling you
is there are tunnels throughout.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
The United Act.

Speaker 5 (08:30):
I agree, I'm not rolling my eyes about that. I
was rolling my eyes because I wanted to state that
even if Biden inherits were still in office, I would
still want them to make our cities safer. Yeah, no
matter what. But I'm a pro law enforcement. That's the
way I've always been, and that's the way I am.
If we don't have laws, we have chaos.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, we do, for sure.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
But what I was saying is there are underground tunnels
that stretch from the west coast to the East coast.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
We know that for sure.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
And we've done an episode on dumb or deep underground
military bases, and so what deep underground military bases essentially
are is there are these military bases that are underground
throughout the United States of America. We've talked about on
other episodes where it's like, you know, how people wanted
to storm Area fifty one because they wanted to see
the aliens. They wanted to see some type of advanced technology.

(09:18):
What are they hiding from us behind the gates. I
don't necessarily think anything is being hidden from us beyond
any gates anymore.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
I think a lot of what the gatea A.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Lot of the gates are hiding the entry points to
some of these deep underground military bases or tunnels. So
there has been some conspiracy behind the fact that Washington,
d C. For example, has a plethora of underground tunnel systems,
and presidents have known about this. Congress and know about this,

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but they don't necessarily know how extensive these underground tunnels are. Now,
if you think about also the fact that Trump is
starting to kind of deploy the National Guard, especially in Washington,
and then you have some telltale signs of okay, so
number one, Trump said, well, Washington d C. Is crime
has gotten out of control, and it has, and they

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were trying to say there was a forty and fifty
percent increase in crime over the past two or three years.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
And then some.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Numbers also show that Washington DC's crime actually has went down,
supposedly thirty percent, although I don't necessarily believe.

Speaker 5 (10:21):
That, because when the staffers are getting mugged and killed
on a daily basis, then something's going to be done.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, But I mean it's also the same thing.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's like with climate change or with COVID or anything else,
like do we really believe numbers, especially when they come
out against Trump or the right or whoever. Usually they're
coming out with bullshit numbers or they're skewing numbers in
a way that supports their narrative. And so what we're
going to talk about tonight is like, is this constitutional
number one? Should Trump be doing this in places like Washington,

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d C. And Trump also recently said, hey, Chicago, you're
next to Chicago.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
And I've been saying it for fifteen years, and I wish,
like his first term, I was praying that he would
take the national card into Chicago, especially the South Side,
because all it is is black on black crime, and
it's young children killing each other. And nothing's going to
work unless they bring in something else. Because if you
think about it, law enforcement really, since you know, the

(11:19):
Summer of Love, we're down in law enforcement in every
state in America. Yeah, nobody wants to be in law
enforcement anymore because of the digma we put on them.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Yeah, So and that's another whole subject that we need
to talk about. There's not enough law enforcement to protect
the citizens of any state or city.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, and especially in the Democrat led cities, right because
you know, we've heard over the past four or five
years it's like, defund the police, defund the police.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
We've got to get rid of the police. And you know,
you think about all of.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
These instances to where you know, they're trying to get
rid of qualified immunity for law enforcement. And you know
whereas I understand to some takes on people's thought process
on that to where it's like, law enforcement can't just
go and do whatever they want to and get away
with it because they do have qualified immunity. But we
also have to understand that law enforcement, especially over the
past eight years under the administrations that we have had,

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especially under Obama and Biden Harris, they were a target.
The law enforcement became a target under the United States
federal government. And so to Sherry's point, it was really
hard to get law enforcement to actually want to sign
up and go and do the job, which is already underappreciated.
But then on top of it, if you had a
president and an administration in office that could use the

(12:37):
Department of Justice to go after you, particularly because you
did something, they would go after law enforcement that would
kill someone that was armed, and then they would still
hype this up like, you know, hey, this cop killed a.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Black persons police brutality.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, And also beyond that, what the media does and
they do very well.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Is they would say this is.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
An unarmed black man, though they had no idea, and
then three or four or five or six days, or
sometimes a week or two later, it would come out,
oh wait, he actually did have a gun. But by
then it was too late because the mainstream media already
demonized this police officer, demonized the department. And then there
were people that were docks and these police officers that
were showing up at their houses. And then this is

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what created the narrative of people's.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Minds to where they're like, you know, what, do I
want to sign up to be a cop? Hell no,
not listen.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
To and not to mention that you're putting your life
on the line every day just to go to work.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
How many of us do that?

Speaker 5 (13:32):
How many of us go to our jobs and think,
oh my gosh, this might be the last day that
I take my last breath. I don't know what's going
to happen today because they don't know what they're what
they're going to get into.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Yeah, you're exactly right.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I want to play a clip just in a second
of this is Fox News talking about the deployment of
National Guard to nineteen states. It also briefly mentions what
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All of you.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
So let's go ahead and get into the clip from
Fox News about the nineteen states that are going to
have National Guard in them very soon and what the
purpose of that is.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
Listen, President Trump expanding his crackdown on crime and illegal
immigration beyond the nation's capital. In fact, the administration is
now planning to deploy seventeen hundred National Guard troops to
nineteen states over the next few weeks and that should
be very interesting. And but that we welcome you to
another hour of Fox Who's Live. I'm Kevin Cork here
in Washington with more. We want to head over to

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the White House, the North Wawn to be specific. That's
where we find my buddy Lucas Tomlinson, who has more
on what has been a very busy week for the president.

Speaker 9 (17:47):
Hey lelt it sure has.

Speaker 10 (17:50):
Good morning, Kevin, and the Pentagon says over two thousand
National Guard soldiers are patrolling the streets the nation's capital
right now, and President Trump says they could be deployed
to other big cities as well.

Speaker 11 (18:03):
We're going to make our cities very, very safe.

Speaker 9 (18:06):
Chicago's a mess.

Speaker 11 (18:07):
You have an incompetent mayor grossly incompetent, and we'll straighten
that one out probably next. So I think Chicago will
be our next, and then we'll help with New York.

Speaker 12 (18:19):
Now.

Speaker 10 (18:19):
Last year, Kevin, the murdering in d C was on
par with Chicago and nearly four times higher than Los
Angeles and nearly six times higher than New York. Last hour,
Congressman Pat Fallon told you DC needs to be cleaned up.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
Even with DC booking the books on their crime statistics,
you're three and a half times more likely to be
killed in DC than you were in twenty twelve when
a serious crime is committed.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
And from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, carjackings are
up five hundred and fifty percent. So things are out
of control, and thank goodness, President Trump has taken these
again bold actions.

Speaker 10 (18:51):
As you mentioned off the top, seventeen hundred National Guard
members will also be deployed in nineteen states, The White
House says they will help DHS with clerical support for
processing illegal aliens at ice facilities.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
All right, So there you have Fox News talking about
the news story that is kind of sweeping the nation,
and a lot of right wing and left wing pun
that's they're talking about this, including Alex Jones.

Speaker 4 (19:13):
But then you have Bill Maher that.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Is saying that, you know, this is potentially Trump rolling
out a slow coup that he is going to remain
in power in twenty twenty eight. Now for Bill Maher
to say this, Bill Maher obviously has been on the
left wing of things his entire life. He is definitely
a far leftist, but he is someone that is at
least rational on topics, at least rational on current events

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to in.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Your opinion, well mine, because when I listen to him,
even when he brings on Republicans sometimes I'm like, what
in the hell are you talking about?

Speaker 6 (19:48):
Yeah, that's just my opinion.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
Well, and there's definitely things like when he brings on
certain individuals like Charlie Kirk or you know, the various
other people he brings on club random where he'll talk
to them and then once they get into a you know,
discussion about the left and the right. There's obviously still
topics that he just cannot move away from that. He
thinks that Republicans are evil, Democrats are great. But the

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one thing Bill Moore has done a very good job
at is calling out Democrats where they're felling their people
and especially their messaging. And so you know, it's one
of the things he said probably a month ago, he said, look,
if Trump legalizes or reschedules marijuana, Trump is going to
have a huge win on his hand, especially with a
lot of Democrats. And this is not very.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Why though, because he smokes weed every time week.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
But it's true though, because this is something that has
been a huge I guess you can say topic or
policy decision that Democrats have yet to do, Republicans have
yet to do.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
Potentially Trump will do this.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
But I think at the very least Bill Maher in
most cases is as fair as he can be given
his bias to the left, and especially after what we've
seen over the past four years where the administration completely
did everything in reverse of what you should have done
as a presidential administration. I mean, you look at the
Ukraine and Russia War, which I believe heavily, and we've

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talked about on many episodes where it was like we
were instigating Russia to go to war with the Ukraine.
We did everything to make sure they went to war
with Ukraine, and not just that. Look at the riots,
look at everything that has happened under the administration. But
what I do want to play here briefly is MSNBC's
take on this. Like obviously we heard Fox News, Hey,

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we got nineteen hundred National Guard soldiers that are deploying.
We got multiple National Guard in DC. By the way,
many of these are armed, and it does seem like
some of these National Guard members are taken on law
enforcement roles or in the city of DC or the
District of Columbia. But we don't know what's going to
happen when National Guard goes to Chicago, because I think

(21:51):
that's going to be a very different circumstance.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Chicago is a whole different beast.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I understand that we have crime in DC, and as
we already talked about, a lot of the DC crime
are these gangs of fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen year
olds that are going around. They're still in vehicles. We
see this in New York. We've sawt in Los Angeles
and we also somewhat see that in Chicago. Chicago is
a different beast though, because of all of the gang

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violence and the gang activity we're talking about in all
out war. They call Chicago sch Iraq for a reason,
Like Iraq, Chicago is like Iraq, right, you know in
two thousand and three, two thousand and four, and so
sending in National Guard into this environment is going to
be a whole nother thing.

Speaker 5 (22:32):
I'm kind of afraid for the National Guard to even
go into that environment, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Well, what you got to worry about is like engagement rules, right,
so you know what is going to be the rules
of engagement? How is a National Guard going to respond
and how are they going to actually carry out their role?

Speaker 4 (22:48):
What is their role going to be? Are they going
to be similar to DC?

Speaker 3 (22:51):
And if they are, which means they're able to carry
a weapon, it's a side arm, it's a pistol that
they're carrying in DC. Are they going to do the
same thing in Chicago? And I think for the safety
they probably should.

Speaker 5 (23:01):
Yeah, yeah, because everyone there is armed definitely. And you know,
when we talk about downtown Chicago, versus the south Side
that it's two different places. But I think the South
Side has developed into downtown Chicago.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, and other areas, the West Side of Chicago, east
side Chicago, it's all.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Kind of being overran now. But what worries me is engagement.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Right if if National Guard does get involved in the
South Side of Chicago or in some of the places
that you definitely need someone in to do something to
stop the violence, it's going to mean something that could
potentially have a shit ton of backlash. Yeah on the
decision to send National Guard there to begin with, But
what else do you do because otherwise it's just going
to keep happening. They're going to keep killing in and

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sent people. You have to do something. The mayor of
Chicago is not going to do anything. Brandon whatever his
name is, Mayor Mary Lightfoot didn't do a damn thing either.
She looked like little et and but Brandon whatever, I
can't remember his last.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Name, but I can't think right now either.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
But he keeps saying, well, we're going to fight, and
we're going to uprise against the National Guard.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
And fighting because they want they want people to keep
killing each other. They love that and they feed off
of it.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
But here's there's the Here's the scary part, though, is
if Trump sends the National Guard in Chicago, and you're
going to start seeing a lot of rhetoric to where
they're going to try to tell the gang members and
and and the people that are doing the bad shit
to stand up against National Guard. They want to create
a war, and they want to create a war between
military and civilians. And when that happens, that changes everything

(24:35):
very fast. But let's go ahead and get to the
MSNBC clip. I hate to even do this to you, guys,
but you have to at least hear what mainstream media
on the other side is talking about and what they're
saying that they're very concerned about.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Listen.

Speaker 13 (24:48):
President Trump's military presence in Washington, d C. Continues to escalate,
with the Defense Secretary of Pete Hegseth confirming the National
Guard troops deployed in the Capitol will now be armed
and off the rise to carry out local law enforcement duties.
His justification a single post on social media calling them
move common sense, and Trump himself is making clear this

(25:09):
deployment may not end anytime soon. In fact, he's floated
keeping troops in DC indefinitely and even suggest that other
cities could soon be next.

Speaker 11 (25:18):
I mean, I keep seeing about a thirty day deadline,
of which we have twenty two days left or something.
But if I think we're in great shapion, and that's
one thing. But if I don't, I'm going to just
say it's a it's a national emergency. And if I
have a national emergency, I can keep you the troops
area as long as I want. But when we're ready,
we'll go in a world straight down in Chicago, just
like we did DC. Chicago's very dangerous, great place. I

(25:41):
built great stuff there. I have the most beautiful.

Speaker 4 (25:44):
Building in Chicago, I think.

Speaker 11 (25:45):
But I hate to see what's happened to Chicago.

Speaker 13 (25:50):
Miles Taylor, Kimberley, Atkins Store, and Paul Butler are back
with us, you know. Also in that the President said
that he was going to floating using the regular military
to tackle crime, talking about Chicago, and in it he says,
the people in Chicago are screaming for us to come.
They're wearing red hats just like this, They're wearing red hats.
African American ladies, beautiful ladies, are saying, please President Trump,

(26:12):
come to Chicago as the beautiful African American lady on
our panel, I want to go to you first, because
this isn't about crime.

Speaker 12 (26:21):
Right.

Speaker 13 (26:22):
If it was about crime, there are actually things that
you can do to tamp down crime, right. There are
things in the DMV the Baltimore ware has done to
tamp down crime.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
In his city.

Speaker 13 (26:31):
And I guess I'm just what does it say that
we are in a time where the President is just saying,
I might seem the regular military to come into Washington,
d c. Or to go to Chicago, and it doesn't
seem like the red the sirens are going off in
the country.

Speaker 12 (26:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (26:50):
So on the legal sort of front of this, there
is a principle possi coomatatas. There's a law passi Commatatas
Act which states that military should not be in a
law enforcement capacity against American citizens. The reasons for that
ought to be obvious when you see that sort of
militarized control by a government. I've seen that in places

(27:11):
like Beijing. That's not what democracy is.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
That's what I was trying to me.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
That is not their mission.

Speaker 14 (27:18):
It is not the mission of the mill, which I
think you've seen a lot of issues here, not just
with people not understanding what their mission is, but chain
of command. When everybody's claiming to be in control, it
actually makes a city less safe.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
But as you said, it has nothing to do with that.

Speaker 14 (27:33):
Donald Trump has had a bugaboo about American cities four years.
But you can go all the way back to his
time in New York when he claimed and still won't
let go today that the exonerated five the four children
who were charged in that horrific Central Park attack. He
insists that they are guilty, and he insists that they
should still be jailed. At this point he wanted he

(27:55):
put out the full page ad about them, wanting to
they should be getting the death penalty. This has been
something about Donald Trump in American cities, particularly American cities
that have large black populations, that he has wanted to
assert some control. And he's using DC because he has
a little bit more leeway because of the federalization of
the city in so many ways, the congressional control that

(28:17):
is here to sort of run a dry run of
what he wants to see carried out in American city.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
I want to pause for a second, and I want
to say this with all due respect, but there's a
reason why you have to deploy National Guard. And she's
saying in predominantly black areas or black cities is because
that is where high crime is.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
That is just a fact.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
You know, if there is a black if there's a
black population that is thirteen percent of the population, but
they account for so much of the violent crime, then
where are you going to put the National Guard.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
It's the same thing with Live PD.

Speaker 3 (28:49):
I'll give you a good example of this when Live
PD went to Greenville County, South Carolina, and I guess
there was a lot of civil rights activists and everything
that came in after that and said, no, you've got
to get LIFPD to hell out of Greenville because all
they're doing is just they're going into black communities. And
this is where Live PD is every single time that

(29:09):
they're on Live PD. Okay, but that's where the crime is, right,
I mean, and not just in black communities. There is
also the Hispanic communities, certain other areas. And it's not
to say that white people do not commit crimes. They do,
but it's just to say that when you are on
Live PD and you have a television show that I want.

Speaker 6 (29:27):
To crime to crime in city.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, and the area and where your crime is, where
your calls are are in these communities. And so for
her to say that Trump is targeting the black communities
by sitting in the National guarden places like Chicago, that
is where the crime is. And if you look at
the crime statistics and the facts about who's committing the
most crime in Chicago, obviously that is the black community.
It is the South side of Chicago. That's not a

(29:51):
racist thing to say. That is just a fact. And
so to say that like you're being racist by targeting
black people, that's not true.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Most of the people in South Chicago I want them
to come. Yeah, a lot, they want them to help.
I see it all the time on Facebook. Let me
ask you a question, Chad, and I know the answer,
but I want to ask the question. What is the
National Guard here for?

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Well, to protect the country.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
But part of the country within or without within?

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yes, yes, that's it. That's their job.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
Our military has different to performance levels, the Army, the Marines,
everything is outbound.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
Right, yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
But National Guard is to protect within our country.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Yeah, I mean most of the active duty military, yes,
they do. Usually they are the ones that deploy to
other countries, but that is primarily in defense roles for
the United States of America.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
But it is it's kind of like the CIA.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
The CIA operates outside of the United States supposedly, even
though they technically operate inside the United States. But the
CI's job is supposed to go outside of the United
States to do jobs over in other countries to protect
the United States. Then you have the FBI, for example.
The FBI is kind of like the National Guard in
this sense. FBI is to investigate crimes internally inside of

(31:04):
the United States. National Guard is the same way. So
if you have hurricanes, if you have rioting, if you
have invasions, if you have all this shit, national Guard
is going to be your first mind.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Inside the United States. Now, do you think the National
Guard is any less trained than the Marines in the army?

Speaker 3 (31:21):
That's a good question, because I'm not military, I'm not
Marine or National Guard.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
I mean, do I think that National Guard is as
trained as Marine Corps?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Probably not?

Speaker 6 (31:30):
What about Army? What about Air Force? What about Navy?

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Probably not.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
I mean maybe maybe you can make God, I'm gonna
get myself in trouble.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
Okay, Well, you're a friend that's in National Guard right now.

Speaker 4 (31:41):
He's not National Guards.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Reserved, so that's that's still part of active duty slash,
not activity, but reserves Army. And you know, just like
he just got back from A and T, so that's
a specialized training they were doing like a warfare exercise
games or war games, I guess you can call it.
He was there for like two weeks in the middle
of the woods, I think it was South Dakota. He's
also going to be deployed again, or not deployed, but

(32:08):
sent on a training exercise I think in two or
three months from now. And I was actually just talking
to him last night and he says, usually when they
go on this next training exercise, it is pre deployment
type training.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
Actually already been deployed a couple of times.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Three times.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, Yeah, he's been in Iraq once, Afghanistan twice, and
that was many years ago. But now he's in reserves.
And so what he was saying though, is that how
they're starting to train and do that. I mean, it's
a lot of heavy training right now for the reserves,
and he thinks it's pre deployment type training. And I
had asked him last night, I said, well, what do
you think it's for. Do you think it's Russia? Do

(32:43):
you think like, what do you think what do you
think it's about? Where would you be deployed. He's like, well,
He's like, I think it's probably like if you look
at the China situation in Taiwan, I mean, eventually China
is going to invade Taiwan. I think the United States
has a hard stance on We're not going to allow
China to do this, which is going to be another
shit show in itself once we get into all out
war with China, which is very possible with the Tyron situation,

(33:04):
I think that's more likely than the Russia thing.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
But to your question, going back to a national.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Guard, they have they do have guardsmen that are trained
in police duties, just like you would have in the military,
so military.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Police and so on.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
A lot of them, I believe are trained in crowd
control or riot control. That's usually where they'll deploy, or
they'll deploy in situations like hurricanes or hurricane relief or
for example, what the National Guard was supposed to originally
get deployed in Washington, d c. For was to kind
of set corridors and perimeters around the actual law enforcement

(33:39):
in DC to protect them while they went and carried
out their duties.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
But there's not enough people to carry out those duties.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Y's the problem.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah, I think I think they're just getting overwhelmed with
the amount of crime and to some degrees, so I
think that as they are armed.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
Now I don't know one hundred.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Percent the exact details on how much they are actually
carrying out law enforcement duties. But that is when it
gets into the constitutional gray area, like is what Trump
is doing constitutional or is it not?

Speaker 4 (34:06):
And I think we do have to take.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
That very seriously because the reason I say we have
to take it seriously is because Trump is not always
going to be in power and Republicans are not always
going to be in power.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
And so it's the.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Same thing like when Trump was getting indicted and you know,
we had thirty four felonies and they went after him
for every single thing under the sun. And now you
have Trump in office, and so the Democrats had to
have thought like, well, is he going to come after us?

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Well, we already start.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
We're starting to see some of these investigations unravel with
Adam Schiff with about mortgage fraud, we're seeing John Bolton,
which a FBI just raided his house.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
So there's always going to be appointed by Trump.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
I know, but we're always going to have this slingshot effect.
And it's the same way with like politics, Like if
you have the Democrats do so horribly, you know there's
a good chance, if voting is secure, that you're going
to have this massive shift towards Republicans on the backside. Now,
the same thing with Trump administration now with what he's
doing the law and order and all this stuff. However,

(35:08):
this is I guess perceived by the public, is going
to be the determining factor on what happens with Republicans
in the midterms, which is in twenty twenty six, and
then also what happens in twenty twenty eight. One thing
I think that Trump has kind of fumbled on, as
we've talked about on the other episodes, is the Epstein thing.
And we still don't one hundred percent know what is

(35:28):
actually going to come out about the Epstein files.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Trump keeps calling in a hoss.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
And we know it's just crazy. I get that.

Speaker 5 (35:35):
But getting back to the fact at hand is that
the crime is on a rise and is younger people.
We're even seeing it where we live in Spartanburg in Greenville.
They're shootings every day now and it's normally young people
that are shooting.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, the young crime is out of control.
And I think in large part because if you look
at a lot of their parents, you know, a lot
of their parents are the ones the ones that are
caught on camera stelling shit out of CBSS and going
to riots and going to protests and doing all this shit,
and then their kids are looking up at them and like, oh,
this is what I'm supposed to do. This is I'm

(36:13):
going to be an activist or I'm going to be
a gang member. That's the cool thing to do. And
we've always had this issue with like glorifying violence and
glorifying gangs. And I think, you know, if you go
back to like the CIA and what their involvement was,
I believe in rap culture, which dates back to the eighties,
you know, in the nineteen eighties, a lot of people
believe the CIA created the gang rap music to basically

(36:38):
destroy the black community and create chaos and violence, and
then to be able to further control and manipulate the
black community and they've done that.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
And you know, look at Martin Luther King.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
He got murdered by the government essentially, I mean according
to the courts, and that was because he was trying
to bring people together.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
So what did the CIA do.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Well, They're like, well, we have to control these people,
so let's create a gang mentality in pop culture, rap
music and ice Cube himself, which was you know, he
was the writer and singer of you know, he was
an NWA and he had the song f the Police
and which which became.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Synonymous with the black community.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I mean, this was like the biggest song and it's
still played to this day with people that hate the police.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
And wasn't he enrolls that he was the police?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Yeah, he was, Yeah, like twenty one Jump Street and
all this stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
But the funny thing about it is is an ice
Cube since then has come out and said, yeah, he's like,
I believe there was something too the rap gang culture.
Like it was almost like and he had said this
an interview, he said, I think they tried to push
us to create songs like this almost it was like
they incentivized us.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
The labels.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
It was like, hey, you got to get out there
and you've got to be a social justice warrior. This
was before Antifa and BLM ever existed.

Speaker 5 (37:49):
Well, it goes back to the Aluminati, and it goes
back to selling your soul to the devil. You just
look at like Miley Cyrus for example. I'm getting off
topic for just a minute. We're good, but it's just
crazy that you see her before and after picture her
before picture. You know, even when she was Montana on
the Disney Channel, she was this beautiful girl.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Of course she was then she was young.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
But I mean she's older, but she still could look
prettier and everyone's like, oh, yeah, she's beautiful.

Speaker 12 (38:18):
She has no.

Speaker 4 (38:19):
Eyebrows, Well, she has no eyebrows. Her hair's cut really short.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
I mean she looks like she's on some kind of
drug or something or has sold her soul something. And
then you got Little nas X. And if you saw
this video I did. Yes, the Little nas X is
the guy that sang old Town Road.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
That guy is weird.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Well he sung on Old Town Road. This was a
song that mainstream music pushed to all the youth. This
is what all the you should know, Sherry, because all
of your kids, Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
We used to play it every day in my classroom.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, so all the kids knew Old Town Road. They
all followed little nase X. They thought he was the
greatest thing ever to live, and then all of a
sudden he took this massive shift. The next song he
had out after he had all the kids followed him,
was him basically having lap Dance from the Devil and
he came out as gay and all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Now, as of like.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Four days ago, he was walking the streets of la
in his underwear talking crazy shit.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yeah, so it's like their minds once they're kind of
entrapped and then thrined in this evil, demonic type culture.
And I do think it's intentional, you know, that's what happens.
And I think that's the problem with like our youth
is like there we have this mass formation psychosis of
people that are you know, my age, your age, younger,

(39:31):
that are having kids. Now they got teenagers in high
school and they're doing crazy shit. They're if their parents
are doing crazy shit. They're indoctrinated. They are on this
ideological surge and you know, their main goal is to
get paid by the government to go to riots, which
in many cases they get paid for. Also, like what
are their kids going to do. They're going to do

(39:52):
the same, if not worse shit. And that's exactly what
they're doing. But I want to listen to some more
and the rest of this MSNBC interviewing, we'll talk more.

Speaker 14 (40:00):
Somebody who is here, who lives here, who is a
taxpayer in Washington, DC. What he could have done if
he cared about trime was released more than a billion
dollars of funding that Congress is still holding up that
can go to things like public safety, that can go
to things like hiring more cops, which Trump said he does.

Speaker 4 (40:16):
Not want to do.

Speaker 14 (40:17):
He's not even good at hiding the subterfuge of all
of this. And that's what seems so dangerous to me,
because we are seeing militarized people show up at the
homes of black people and harass them for doing nothing
but living and existing in their lives. And that's what
Trump wast when Mayor Bouncer was here on the show,
coming on with this.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
Is complete bullshit. Is bullshit, No, it is obviously god.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I mean, they only had felonies, that's the reason why
they're showing up at the freaking home or they.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Were on call.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
But Trump doesn't want to hire any other law enforcement.
That's bullshit too, nobody wants to work for law enforcement
because of what happened.

Speaker 4 (40:52):
And then this is MSNBC.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Of course they're trying to make it out like the
National Guard is there just for the black people, and
they're harassing black bules for no reason whatsoever. None of
these people committed crimes, and they're all just there to
attack people, to attack citizens. And unfortunately for them and
their argument, if they actually wanted to make an argument
on MSNBC that made any sense whatsoever, what they would

(41:15):
do is try to actually articulate what is either constitutional
or not constitutional about what Trump is doing. Right, that
is how you would do it. You don't automatically go
and race bait, which is exactly what they do on MSNBC.
But like, what's actually happening. So, the National Guard is
deploying across nineteen states. Up to seventeen hundred National Guard
troops are being mobilized across Republican led states to assist

(41:38):
the Department of Homeland Security with logistical and administrative support.
So we're talking about case processing, fingerprinting, transportation and documentation,
and so in most of these states they're not going
to do direct law enforcement duties. Now, we don't know
how to play out in Chicago, but we at least
know in the nineteen states they are there to assist

(41:58):
federal agencies. And most of these states are Republican states,
I think all of them are, and their state governors
are commanding their guard to do what they know what
the government is asking them to do, while the government
funds them. Now that's a very important topic is the
governor with the National Guard has to approve the National

(42:20):
Guard to be utilized because it is a state guard.
It is not a federal it is not a military.
That is how the military and National Guards separate themselves.
And so the federal deployment in cities like Chicago, Los Angeles, Baltimore. Now,
the administration is preparing to deploy the Guard in certain
areas as we talked about, including Chicago, New York, and Baltimore,
as part of a broader crackdown on crime and immigration,

(42:42):
and state and local leaders, governors and mayors, legislators are
strongly opposing these moves, calling them unauthorized, politically motivated, and
legally questionable. Now, the quick Reaction Force concept, which is
a proposal under evaluation to station six hundred National Guard
troops in Alabama and Arizona ready to deploy within an
hour in case of civil unrest. That is also trying

(43:03):
to get pushed through right now, So is this martial
law a police state? And so right now, obviously it's
not officially a police state or a martial law, but
there's a lot of critics that Warren't it's creeping towards
this militarization of civil life, and the term martial law
refers to full suspension of civil authority in favor of
military rule, which has not been declared. And so deploying

(43:24):
armed troops or militarized forces and domestic cities, especially without
local consent, is what is going to be fueling this
serious concern over civil liberties and this kind of democratic
norm But you know, there's a couple of legal frameworks
that they're going to have to go up against with
all of this, and this is a constitutional and kind
of legal analysis. And there's called the Posse Committees Actor,

(43:46):
which is eighteen seventy eight and that's when this was established,
and the law limits the use of federal troops and
civilian law enforcement unless expressively authorized by Congress or the Constitution.
So the National Guard troops, when under the state control
Title thirty two, are not bound by posse committeets, but
must remain under the governor's command and able to stay

(44:08):
out of that law. So Title thirty two versus Title ten,
so Title thirty two guards remain under governor control even
if federally funded. They can support federal agencies, but only
with the state's consent. And then you have Title ten status,
which is federalized, and once federalized, National Guard troops become
subject to posse committee and cannot engage in civilian law

(44:29):
enforcement without proper authorization. Then you also have the Insurrection
Act of eighteen oh seven, and this statutory exception allows
the President to deploy federal troops, including the National Guard,
to suppress insurrection, enforced federal law, or protect constitutional rights,
but it has strict prerequisites, including a proclamation to disperse,
and is rarely used without state request or clear emergency.

(44:53):
And then you have the anti command in the State
Sovereignty Court President in New York versus the United States
Prince versus the United States for bids the federal government
from forcing states to administer or support federal programs. Deploying
under federalized Guard troops in non consenting states clearly breaches
that principle. So California has already filed suit arguing that

(45:14):
Trump's federalization of its Guard violated both the Tenth Amendment
and the Posse Committee's Act. So that is what Governor
Gavin Newsom issuing the Trump administration for right now. That
is during these riots that happen a couple two or
three months.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
But I don't get it. Why do they want crime
in their cities?

Speaker 4 (45:31):
Well, listen, they.

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Get it.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
They want chaos. They want chaos because that's what you know,
that's who they're being funded by. You know, they're being
funded by the sources and all the people that are
funding the prosecutors. You know, like George Gascone that was
in Los Angeles that was letting out everyone that committed
crimes in Los Angeles, that were burning down cities and
doing all the crazy shit. And so if you guys
remember three or four months ago during the ice protest

(45:56):
in Los Angeles where you know, they had the these
ice protesters that were destroying ice vehicles. They were trying
to set up barricades where Ice could not carry out
their duties as federal.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Agents, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
And that's when I do believe Trump did federalize the
California National Guard and basically said, fu Gaven Neuwsom, right,
We're going to utilize the National Guard in your state regardless.
And so does Gavin Newsom have a standing on this lawsuit?
Technically legally he will because it is the governor. And
so if the governor wants his state to get, you know,

(46:32):
to be chaos and chaos and destroyed, that's kind of
his own thing.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
And that's why they're all moving to Texas.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
But the legal standing here on the Trump side of
this is that he had federal authorities that were in
this state that were trying to carry out federal duties
on behalf of national security, which is the federal immigration
laws and the essentially the invasion across our border.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
They were trying to carry.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Out federal duties, and all the the California government and
politics and in some cases some law enforcement were doing
was trying to hinder that ability. So that's when Trump
federalized the National Guarden California. And so there's gonna be
a big fight here and it's going to be interested
in how the court's rule with Gavin Newsom versus Trump
in this situation, because yes, Trump did federalize the California

(47:20):
National Guard without the governor's consent, which is technically unconstitutional,
But it depends on how the court reads and hears
what was actually going on in the United States, because
if it you know, if they kind of pivot it
and say, not pivot it, but present it as, hey,
this is a national emergency because you have a shit

(47:40):
ton of illegal immigrants in your city. Many of them
were gang members from you know, Venezuela, Mexico, you name it,
cartel members, and we sent in our federal government to
go in and get these people. And then you guys
are not helping us whatsoever, you know. But then if
Trump will have you know, authorized the actual active duty military,

(48:02):
which it could have potentially done, I don't know if
that would have been better for him than you know,
federalized the National Guard.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
But either way, that's kind of where that lawsuits.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
But doesn't it make you think about like politics, governors, mayors,
they're all paid by somebody, and whoever's paying them the
most is what they're going to do.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Oh absolutely, I mean that's the same way it is
in the White House, the same way it is in Congress,
it is the same way it is in the Senate.
Is every politician the only reason and the only way
that they are in their positions of power is.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Because of who funds them.

Speaker 3 (48:40):
And unfortunately that we've talked a lot about that, you know,
because there are outside influences outside of the United States that.

Speaker 6 (48:47):
Fund and influence what you're talking about our politics.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
Well, yeah, Israel.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
I mean, there's really not a lot of other countries
that influence the United States politics except for the Deep States,
like George Soros's and you know WF and know for
a while World Health Organization and probably their elites and
the fundings of that.

Speaker 5 (49:04):
I mean, but I just don't even see with Trump
having all the money he has, he doesn't even take
a salary, And how could he be influenced by he's
taking a salary?

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Now? I think he is.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
I mean, I think his first term he did. I
think he has. I think he is getting paid now.
I've not heard anything about him not taking a salary
in this term. But how is he being influenced? I
don't know, But I mean, I'm not getting into the
whole Israel thing. I'm just saying that, yes, all politicians
are funded, they are influenced, and if they're not influencing
it and they don't do what they're super packs and

(49:37):
what their biggest donors say, then they're not going to
be They're not going to have a very long political
career because they're not going to have money to run.
They're not going to have the money to be able
to get out there and have commercials all across your
screen and all social media. Three years left, it's not
about just the fact that Trump has three years left.
It's about his whole Maga movement. It's about everybody that
comes after him. It's about all the people that voted

(49:58):
for him. He's got to get the people vote for
everybody that he supports going forward. You know, that's the
whole point of why does he care he only has
three years left? He does care because it's an entire movement.
That is what the Republican's movement is. And unfortunately, right
now for the Democrats, they don't have a movement necessarily.
They've tried and TV, they've tried BLM, they've tried rioting,
they've tried the division. Crazy enough, they're still trying to

(50:21):
do the same shit, and it still isn't working, but
they're still trying to do it. So the key legal battles,
like I said, is the Newsom and Trump thing. And
so the constitutional perspective on this is logistical support in
nineteen states enter Title thirty two with governor consent appears
legally defensive, but support not policing, right, So deploying troops

(50:42):
and cities without state local consent and for broader law
enforcement style roles more likely violates constitutional norms, particularly the
anti commandeering doctrine, Positive Committees Act and the principles of federalism.
And so then invoking the Insurrection Act might be constitutional
if true emergencies were declared and sevisual steps followed, but
these deployments seem political or rather an emergency driven and

(51:04):
without that, it's hard to kind of justify that constitutionally.
But what we're going to see is that whatever and
however Trump decides to push into Chicago, that's going to
be a big one because you know, Mayor Brandon is
not going to agree with that. Nobody's going to agree
with that in Chicago. They're going to do everything they
can to fight them on that whole deal. And I'm

(51:26):
about to play a clip of what old Mayor Brandon
whatever the hell his last name is, who cares. I'm
going to play a clip of what he recently said.
It's a very short clip.

Speaker 15 (51:36):
And so you know, look, we're going to remain firm,
will take legal action.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
But the people of this city are.

Speaker 15 (51:42):
Accustomed to rising up against tyranny, and if that's necessary,
I believe that the people of Chicago will stand firm
alongside of me as I work every single day to
protect the people of this city.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Brandon Johnson is his name for anyone that gives a ship. Yeah,
So he's saying the people in this city are accustomed
to write against tyranny. Are you talking about, like you
and your mayor, the other mayor that was Mary Lightfoot.
Is that what you're talking about? Because I don't understand
exactly what you're saying. I mean, considering the fact that
Chicago is like one of the deadliest cities to live
in period. You have little girls and little boys that

(52:17):
are just walking out in their front yard being shot
by stray bullets or in their apartment. Yeah, and it's
like every weekend you have multiple people dead from gang violence.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
This is happening on a regular basis.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Well, to me, it sounds like he's antagonizing people to
stand up to Trump.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
Oh, absolutely is, because that's what they want. They want
if Trump does send in the National Guards to Chicago,
they want a battle, they want a fight.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
That is exactly what they want.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Because then if the National Guard has to shoot someone
or kill somebody in Chicago, oh my god, you're never
gonna hear the end of it. It's gonna be worse
than January sixth. They're gonna declare it is the worst
thing since nine eleven. It's probably even worse than nine eleven,
although they don't give a day about all the people
that are dying innocently before. But even if the National
Guard has to kill someone that is a gang member

(53:06):
because they may be shot at them, it's going to
be the worst thing. I'm telling you it's going to be.
And they're going to talk all about the police state.
They're going to talk about all about martial law. Now,
my thoughts on this is that it is kind of
a dangerous road to kind of go down, right when
you put any National Guard in cities to where they
are acting as law enforcement, because in DC, the National

(53:27):
Guard are technically acting as law enforcement roles. And I
don't know what their training is, what the you know,
who they sent and what their training is as far
as MP or military police or law enforcement duties, I
don't know. But you know, if you do send National
Guard to cities that start to carry out law enforcement roles,
and I don't know what the depth of those things
are in DC, we do know they are armed in

(53:49):
d C. According to pe Hegseth, you know, you are
toeing the line to some degree. And you know, like
Bill Mahr said, is Trump starting to raw out this
slow kup?

Speaker 4 (53:59):
I don't know. I mean, I doubt it. I think
that's kind of ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
And you know, I think the left always wants us
to believe what they usually are trying to do, and
like so it's you know, with Biden, Harris and everybody else,
they want us they always want to blame the.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Other side for what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
It's kind of like cheaters, you know, like if you're
cheating on someone, you're going to blame the other person
for cheating because you're guilty of doing it. And that's
exactly what the Democrats have done.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
For years.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
So here is one resident in Washington, d C. And
this is what she thinks about the guard being in DC.

Speaker 7 (54:32):
Listen, it's actually pretty dope to see people make videos
from the DC area sharing how peaceful it is now,
says Trump cleaned up the streets. It's really dope to
see in witness, and it's like all over DC, not
just the nice areas in the Washington DC area. When

(54:57):
I shared on my Facebook page and my ig how
there's a lot of people who are really happy with
the streets being cleaned up.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Ooh.

Speaker 7 (55:07):
A lot of people that I know where I'm from,
which is PG County, they are like, no, it's unnecessary, No.

Speaker 12 (55:17):
This is that. And it's just, you know, for anyone.

Speaker 7 (55:20):
That thinks that this isn't necessary, it really does sadden
my heart. For people who think like that, it's like
you just want to think the worst of the words,
just the negative, negative, nasty, nasty mindset. And like a
lot of these people that move like this, they claim
they're Christians, they claim they are believers of Christ Jesus.

Speaker 12 (55:44):
And they are moving like that.

Speaker 7 (55:48):
Literally going by what the media says claim they seen reports.
I read articles too, and a lot of those articles
that I've read about what's going on in DC are
very biased and all they are doing is just promoting.

Speaker 12 (56:00):
No one has been racially profiled in DC.

Speaker 7 (56:03):
No one has, and I'm not sure where people are
getting these reports from besides false media. You know, I'm
so glad I became a free thinker, and I'm so
glad I have used critical thinking. Yeah, because if I
didn't start doing this, I would have been like everybody

(56:24):
else from my hometown because I used to think like that.
But the Lord delivered me, and I'm so glad that
he did. I was conorminded. I was a lukewarm Christian
because of the area where I'm from, because when you're
living up there, folks just think you just go to church,
say Hellelujah, praise the Lord, speaking tongues. But I could

(56:46):
go to concerts, I could do this and do that.

Speaker 12 (56:47):
Whatever.

Speaker 7 (56:48):
It causes confusion within the mind, and that doesn't please God.
So again, I know, I just went and left my conversation.
But my whole point is I'm happy for every going
in the d Envy that feels safe, because y'all deserve
to feel safe too. And on the real that's one
of the reasons why I moved away from home because

(57:09):
of the crime that was happening there. Because where I
used to live. I used to live, not that farm
from DC. Ice lived ten minutes away from Southern Avenue, southeast.

Speaker 12 (57:19):
Because I lived in Tumple Hills.

Speaker 7 (57:21):
So to see what the president is doing and how
folks are just like happy, I'm happy for y'all.

Speaker 12 (57:28):
I am. I am extremely happy. And as much as
I would love to focus is.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
On my other socials, I'm not, because all they gonna
do is rejected and you know what, that's all now,
not me. So anyway, shout out to our President of
the United States for real, and shout out to my
hometown on the DMV for feeling safe. And yeah, y'all
continue to enjoy the city and enjoy the peace that

(57:54):
y'all deserve too.

Speaker 12 (57:55):
Ay Man, all.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Right, So that was a longtime resident of these See
she's a black lady from the DC area, and as
she said, I mean, even a lot of her family
they're breathing a sigh of relief because they feel a
little safer tonight, you know. And it's not you know,
and I don't know what it is about the south
sides of cities, but apparently South side of DC is
also a very bad area. And you know, this is

(58:19):
something that I think needs to be done. It's just
that we have to watch it, right we obviously we
always have to be critical of our government. It doesn't
matter about who you guys voted for, who you're loyal to,
they are still a part of the government. Yes, the
president does lead, you know, parts of the government. Although
if you look at the Epstein thing, like how much

(58:39):
does the president actually have authority over you know, when
it comes to like even the Epstein files and stuff
that we really want to know, like the UFOs are
UFOs real for sure? Or you guys sending whistleblowers as
pr people, right? I mean that's it's like if the
Pentagon approves whistleblowers to be able to go and speak
in front of Congress, are they really whistleblowers or are

(58:59):
they pr representatives for the government? Only half of the government,
I agree, you know. And it's like David Grush. That's
why a lot of people in the UFO communia are like,
screw David Grush.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
We don't believe any damn thing he says.

Speaker 3 (59:10):
Because this guy came in front of Congress, and then
when he actually got into the skiffs, he was like,
I'm sorry, I can't tell you anything. My higher rapps
are saying I'm not allowed to say anything. I'll go
to prison if I say anything. So it almost seems
like they're trying to run these PR campaigns by way
of whistleblowers. Maybe that could be David Grush, Maybe that
could be Commander David Fraverer and Ryan Graves and some

(59:32):
of these other UFO whistleblwers. It goes back to what
Ashton Forbes has been talking about for two years now.
It's like, I think we have advanced propulsion. The government's
hiding it from either lying to you on a regular basis,
and I do believe in most ninety percent of cases
that we are lied to on a regular basis by
our government. I don't think it matters who's the president is,
you know, like for example, Pam BONDI I don't trust

(59:54):
that girl woman at all whatsoever. I think she is
a horrible ag I I think that she's lied consistently.
And look, you know, it may not necessarily be her
fault because we don't know exactly how the control structure
or power structure is in DC. Obviously, you know that
Trump is supposed to be the main guy, but he's

(01:00:14):
calling it a hoax. Then you have Pambondi initially saying, oh,
we got tens of thousands of videos. Then all of
a sudden you say, oh, it was mostly child porn.

Speaker 6 (01:00:22):
Don't worry about it after they watched the videos.

Speaker 4 (01:00:24):
Yeah. And then and then and then you have you know,
the real stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
Then you have like, at one point in time, they
had all these right wing influencers come to the White
House and they had these binders with the Epstein files
and they were holding them up from the cameras. And
then all of a sudden, you know, and then she
also went on mainstream media and so I got the
I got the files on my desk. And then she's like, oh,
there are no files. No, there's no such thing as
a client lest No, there's no such thing as files.
And then, uh, the Deputy ag just went and met

(01:00:51):
with Jilene Maxwell. They went and met with her, took
her to a nice, cushy hotel and did all this
shit for her. And now she's coming out. She's the
only statements we've really seen from Gislaine Maxwell so far
is that Trump had nothing to do with anything whatsoever,
there was no black book, which we'll probably get into
an episode on that to kind of break down.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Oh, we don't know that for sure. Maybe that's only
the statements that are coming out to public.

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
We don't know what she said and what she did.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
No, it's transcripts.

Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
Oh so people are reading the transcripts. That's what it says.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Yes, there's been transcripts released, and you know she's saying that,
you know, Trump had nothing to do with anything, don't
worry about it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:27):
That's the primaries.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
People are cherry picking what they want to cherry pick.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Yes, Republicans in this case. I mean, I hate to
say that, but yeah, most everything that has come out
with transcripts with that meeting has all been about Trump
didn't do anything, don't worry about Trump. Trump did nothing,
Trump did nothing, Trump did nothing. And then also some
others said there was no black book, Epstein didn't have
a list.

Speaker 6 (01:01:48):
But I'm still.

Speaker 5 (01:01:49):
Saying they're cherry picking that part because of course that's
what they want to do exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
That's my point, right, But like we know, like if
you're going to just go off and believe that Gislaine
macll is, you know what we're what we're being told
and what's being released is exactly what Gaslayne Maxwell said
or what she actually knows. When the sitting administration of
the President of the United States goes and visits you,
are you serious? Like what I'm what I'm waiting for

(01:02:16):
is to see if Gazlaine Maxwell will be her sin
this will be either commuted or she'll be exonerated or
not exonerated but hardened. I don't know, because like, was
there a deal in this whole agreement? Now I know
it sounds like that Congress does have some of the files.
Trump said, release them all, so we will see what
comes from that. But it's like this whole thing has
been watered down. You know, we knew so much about

(01:02:38):
this before they started to lie to us, and now
they're trying to confuse people to where it's like, no, guys,
there's no list.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
This is all hoax.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
It's a Democrat hoax, just like Russia collusion, just like
all of this. But the reality is this Epstein thing
has been going on for a while. This is this
is not about Trump, although I understand maybe Trump gets
the fact that the Democrats and.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
The de State have had these files. Could they manipulate them?

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Could they alter them to and you know, kind of
influence or put Trump into this whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
Yes, they could.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
I mean we know that, and likely we're never ever
going to know the truth about the Epstein files.

Speaker 5 (01:03:14):
Yeah, but we also know the truth that Clinton and
Obama were on those lists as.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Well well, according to actually I think I know, well, actually,
according to according to Gaislaine Maxwell, in one of her transcripts,
she said that Clinton never visited the island, That's what
she said.

Speaker 6 (01:03:31):
And did she say that Trump visited the island?

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
She said Trump had nothing to do with anything. So
I don't know. That's just what I've heard.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
I've not dove fully into this, but it sounds like
that Gaslaine Maxwell was trying to exonerate Clinton, exonerate Trump,
and you know, kind of just to say like they
had nothing to do with this. I'm pretty sure Gazlaine
Maxwell even said that Clinton never even visited the island.
I'm pretty sure, but I don't know that for sure,
So we'll dig into that on a later date. I

(01:04:01):
do want to get to this next clip, and this
clip is kind of the more conspiracy side of this,
this Masonic DC, the hidden tunnels, and Trump's secret war
on the Satanic forces. Now this is redacted, and so
we're redacted to talk to this expert that kind of
knows all about the hidden tunnels and all this stuff.
And people will speculate, like, and I know this kind
of far reaches, but like could the National Guard? Could

(01:04:24):
military be utilized in DC or being put in place
for something bigger behind the scenes. We're not even talking
about a coup or a police state. We're talking about
these underground Satanic type masononic tunnels. Listen to what redacted says.
Listen really hidden underneath Washington, d C. For years that
have been whispers of vast tunnel systems underneath the capitol,

(01:04:47):
not just for the government use, of course, but for
something darker. Now, new reports suggest President Trump's recent moves
from federalizing DC's metro police to pressuring the Smithsonian to
release long hidden artifacts may be part of a much
bigger operation. And so what does the police move actually
covering here? For federal forces rating an underground network tied

(01:05:09):
to the deep state Satanic cults? And do you see
even extraterrestrial allies.

Speaker 9 (01:05:15):
Yes, so all of the deep state forces that Trump
is up against.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
We wanted to.

Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
Talk about this today with doctor Michael Sala, author researcher,
one of the leading voices on exopolitics, to help make
us make sense of all of this. Doctor, Welcome back
to the show. Great to see you.

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Thanks for having me. Claid my pleasure.

Speaker 8 (01:05:35):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:05:35):
I think you know what's interesting is that last week
when we started covering this story, there's been new revelations
that have come out since then, in many ways, I think,
vindicating some of what you were saying. And so many viewers,
I mean, we had thousands of people saying thank you
for covering this story because it doesn't get any attention.
So can you talk about what some of these new

(01:05:55):
revelations are that we might have been learning about with
the Smithsonian and like the Scottish Temple, etc.

Speaker 12 (01:06:02):
Sure.

Speaker 16 (01:06:03):
Well, this Smithsonian that received an executive order or was
the subject of an executive order from President Trump where
there would be an effort to pressure the Smithsonian to
release much more of its holdings.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
To be reviewed for release.

Speaker 16 (01:06:23):
And that comes on top of what has been really
decades of complaints that the Smithsonian, rather than revealing America's history,
its ancient history, and the true level of civilization here
has been suppressing and hiding it. And so there have
been stories dating all the way back to the eighteen

(01:06:46):
hundreds that the Smithsonian once it is called out to
investigate an archaeological finding of any significance, whether we're talking
about the discovery of giant skeletons, whether we're talking about
the discovery of Egyptian artifacts in the Grand Canyon, and
anything to do with say the Mounds, the Mounds in

(01:07:10):
Ohio that contain supposedly technologies that go back to the
Atlantean era, that the Smithsonian, rather than getting its hands
on these artifacts and reviewing them for public release, really
just locks them away in vaults. And the place where

(01:07:31):
it's been doing that is in this kind of vast
underground tunnel system in the Washington DC area. And the
tunnel system dates all the way back to the early
eighteen hundreds when Washington, d C. Was being designed as

(01:07:51):
the nation's capital, so they needed a tunnel system so
that members of Congress and the executive branch could get
around quickly if they needed to. Of course, you had
the British invasion in eighteen twelve, so that only excelerated things.
And you also had a vast aqueduct system that also

(01:08:14):
was responsible for a lot of the underground tunneling in Washington, DC.
On top of that, you also had an underground trolley
system that began as early as eighteen sixty two, and
it was until eighteen nineteen sixty two that the trolley
system was finally put to an end. And over the

(01:08:36):
course of that century, they eventually started to build underground
tunnels for the trolleys. Now that was abandoned in nineteen
sixty two, and in late sixties and early seventies they
started to build Washington's metro system. But the tunnels that
were used for the trolleys, the underground tunnels, are still there.

(01:08:57):
They're unused. And and so you know, you just have
this vast network of tunnels, whether they're built by private entities,
whether they're built by federal entities or government agencies that
throughout the Washington, DC area.

Speaker 9 (01:09:14):
And deeply, deeply dark stuff that's happening here, as one
of our viewers here on the screen says, you know,
deeply being used for like child trafficking, really demonic things
down here in these tunnels, and we've heard from different
whistleblowers on this. Somebody in the chat was just saying
freemasonry connected to the inverted pentagram on this as well.
And me put maybe with that inverted pentagram up here

(01:09:36):
on the screen and take a look at it, maybe
you can recap for our audience that maybe missed this
last week. What are we seeing here and why is
this deeply troubling?

Speaker 16 (01:09:45):
Well, the pentagram was something that was part of the
architectural design for Washington. D C. Pierre Lamfont was a freemason.
And what you see there is an incomplete pentagram. And
what critics say, well, because it's not a complete pentagram,
then it could not have been designed for coult purposes.

(01:10:06):
But actually a broken pentagram has even more significance because
while agon, while a pentagram, a complete pentagram is a
symbol of protection, the broken pentagram that you see there,
that's a symbol that welcomes the Satanic forces. And what's
very interesting is this. I think I sent you an
image that shows the compass at the bottom of the

(01:10:30):
of the pentagram, and that compass that extends to the
US Congress, and that shows that the compass being the
symbol of Freemasonry that that was connected to this pentagram
there ego. And what's very interesting here, of course, is
that many of the founding fathers were Freemasons, and I

(01:10:54):
think the vast majority of them really did have noble
intentions and wanted to make Washington DC a kind of
beacon of light and a replacement for Atlantis, like the
New Atlantas. But there were very deep, dark, hidden forces
that came in and infiltrated, and so you see that

(01:11:17):
in the different lodges in the Washington DC area. And
there's the Temple House of the Temple on sixteenth Street
just near DuPont Circle, and I think I sent you
an image of that as well, and that is the
headquarters of Scottish rite free masonry thirty three degree in

(01:11:38):
the United States, or a very important element of that.
And underneath that is supposedly according to a book titled
Weird America and other sources that cited remnants of an
ancient Atlantean tunnel system. Now, I mean, that sounds pretty
far fetched that you could actually have something as ancient

(01:12:01):
as that, but in fact, I mean I've been doing
work on the underground tunnel system in America, and what
typically has been happening, especially when it comes to the
development of a deep underground military bases, is that they
have found a much older tunneling system that dates back

(01:12:22):
to the Atlantean era, and they either kind of repurpose
that or they build alongside that. And so I think
it's very feasible that underneath Washington, d C. In addition
to this kind of like human made layer of tunnels,
whether they're made for the federal government for Congress, or

(01:12:44):
for the aqueduct system or for the trolley car system,
that you could have something much much older and Atlantean
tunnel system. And that's where things get really very interesting,
because I think that's where you get probably the deepest
arcist rituals being conducted by those that make it their

(01:13:05):
life or their job to explore and research these tunnels
for Satanic practices because what the Satanists do, and there
is an element of freemasonry. It's very important to say
that not all freemasonry is Satanic. It's only those that
are above the thirty three degree level that are introduced

(01:13:27):
into this kind of like satanic element where they're told
that humans are descendants of gods and they rely on
blood sacrifice and that they can invoke demons or these
a draconian reptilians. And so these temples or these lodgers

(01:13:50):
are often built on areas that have some kind of
energy vortex, and so that's why they actually do a
lot of these practices like Satanic rituals at these energy
vortex is because they know that that's how you can
control an area or even an entire planet. And that
brings us back to the whole inverted panegram because within there,

(01:14:12):
at the different nodes, you're going to have rituals being
conducted in underground locations that really ensure that this kind
of duck satanic element predominates in Washington.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
There we go, and that was an expert on the
underground tunnels under Washington, d C. And listen. The reason
why I wanted to play this clip is because there
has been some videos and there has been some speculation
that they have seen guardsmen or military that have went
into tunnel systems that potentially in.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Washington, d C.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
During this I guess you can say takeover of the
guard into Washington, d C. And a lot of people speculate,
like if you want to know or figure out who
controls the deep state?

Speaker 4 (01:14:54):
Like we've always talked about it, like who is the
ones in charge of the deep state?

Speaker 6 (01:14:58):
As we know it's not the president.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Yeah, who's the main players? Who's really behind the pull
on the strings of like the division and the Satanic
rituals and the child trafficking, child sacrifices, you name it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
A lot of people believe.

Speaker 3 (01:15:10):
That the culprit and kind of the nest egg, at
least in the United States, is under Washington, d C.
And so you know, you have this stuff about these
and by the way, to explain this, the broken pinagram,
which is designed the entire city of Washington, d C.
Is a pentagram, except for it's broken on the south
side of it a star.

Speaker 6 (01:15:33):
It's not a pentagram and a star look kind of
the same.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
They don't know. It's it's pretty obvious when you look
at the lines and the way they lay. But not
only that, the.

Speaker 3 (01:15:42):
Entire city, like the roads, yeah, the some of the
concrete work, all that stuff is designed perfectly to look
like that. It's just that the bottom of the bottom
portion of it is broken. And as he says, that's
actually I'm just.

Speaker 5 (01:15:55):
Saying, I don't know if I believe that or not,
but I mean that is it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 6 (01:16:00):
But I want to tell you a quick story.

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
Back at my teaching career, I had a friend that
her nephew was an engineer and worked in Washington, D C.
And I'm not kidding that she told me this. I
believe her ninety eight point eight percent. There is a
little person in me that doesn't believe it. But why
would she tell me these things out of the blue.

(01:16:23):
And she's like, Sherry, don't ever like repeat this, And
now I'm repeating it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:28):
Okay, it's not like we know this person is so.

Speaker 5 (01:16:31):
But anyways, her nephew is an engineer and he worked
in Washington, D C. And he was working in these
underground tunnels. But in order for him to get to
these underground tunnels, they would blindfold him and not show
him where he was going or what he was doing
until he got to these tunnels. It kind of reminds
me of like the Bob Lazar thing, you know, where

(01:16:54):
he didn't know what exactly where he was. They put
him on a plane, but they didn't tell him exactly
you know, where he was, and then he could not
communicate with other people. Yeah, it was the same thing.
But her nephew went down there and she said there
would be buildings two and three foot tall underneath there,

(01:17:14):
two and three foot yeah, like two and three stories,
two stories, two or three stories sorry, yeah, she said
that it was like a city, yeah, underneath there.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
Well yeah, I mean there. So I said, there's there's
underground cities there. And we know that.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
You know, for example, some of the earthquakes that a
lot of people believe that have happened in certain areas
maybe because of their what is it called the deep
underground burrow or burrowing machines, which are these massive drills
that that you know, where they're making new tunnels, they're
just having to dig out all the stone and limestone
and all this stuff. And these these these drills are massive.

(01:17:49):
I mean, you guys can look them up on Google.
But yeah, and so sometimes when you're underground this deep,
you can cause this shift in the plates. Yeah, or
or at least in some facts I know it, we'll
create earthquakes on the ground exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:18:02):
And that's what my next point was going to be.

Speaker 5 (01:18:05):
You know, you wonder why where you have earthquakes sometimes, Well,
do you think it's because we're plasting stuff underground.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
I mean there's there's been a lot of experts that
have talked about that, and even I go back to
Eric Hecker where he worked at the Antarctica whatever I
guess science research, military lab or whatever, to where he
was a firefighter slash something there and he allegedly saw
these you know, direct energy weapons that were there and

(01:18:33):
all this stuff. But you know, a lot of the
process of how he accessed certain areas of this base
was very similar to what you say, blindfolded, taken into
places that you know, he did not see a large
part of the base except for only where he worked,
and then as he left, he was able to leave,
but he did still, you know, being in his position,
see a lot of crazy stuff. And I still need
to get him on the podcast. But this just goes

(01:18:55):
back to the Washington, DC thing. The underground tunnels. We
don't know. I mean, I'm not saying that National guards
there for this reason, but you know, if you think
about Q and all the stuff they've talked about, that
Q has for a long time thought that Trump was
still in control of the governor, not the government the military,
even when Biden Harris was in power and control. Although

(01:19:15):
I don't believe that. But I just think that there's
something bigger to this Washington d C.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Thing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
And this is going to be my final thought for
tonight's episode. I think there's something bigger. What that is,
I don't know. Do I think it's some type of
satanic ritual cult that are going after underneath of.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
Washington, d C. No, I don't think that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
But do I think though, really that we need the
National Guard in Washington, d C?

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Yes? Probably, But it's also like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Really toe in the line of the you know, military state,
the police state, martial law. Could this be a slow
rollout getting people used to the fact that military is
in our streets, patrol on our streets. I understand that he's,
like I said, he's going to go to Chicago next.
That's going to be a big one. We're going to
see what happens. Because I just was bad.

Speaker 6 (01:20:05):
I just wonder how many people want him to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
Well, I mean, listen, if if the purposes are for
the right reasons and actually to get law and order
to you know, especially in these cities where they don't
give a damn, it's almost like they want to instigate crime.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
You just think about all these restaurants and these businesses,
you know, bankrupt because nobody can go shop there anymore.
Nobody can go downtown. Do not want law and order
established where not only residents can go there, but tourists.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Well, the problem is this is what the this is
what the mayor's this is what the police chiefs, this
is what all these people should be doing, but they're not,
you know, And so I understand, like if you're a
president and you are running a law and order, you
got to do something.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
And you can't.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
It's not like you yourself can go take over the police department.
The only way you can do that is by way
of National Guard. And so that's why the states like
from South Carolina, Tennessee, I think Alabama, some other Republican
states are sending their National Guard to DC. So instead
of using Democrat states, they're not using them because that
would be against their order or against their control. So

(01:21:11):
now Republican governors are sending these National guardsmen to these areas.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
And so that's kind.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Of what I believe how he's probably circumventing some of
these constitutional prohibiting factors I guess of deploying a National
Guard into our cities. He's using the Republican States National Guards,
But like I said, it's going to be dangerous when
they go to Chicago.

Speaker 4 (01:21:32):
I think it's going to be a whole different deal.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
And he says, as soon as we kind of get
DC under control, we're coming to Chicago next.

Speaker 5 (01:21:39):
Well, and I think he needs to. And I, like
I said earlier on the podcast ten fifteen years ago,
would have been better.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean it's nuts. But guys,
let us know what you think about this. Do you
think that sending National Guard into these cities is overstepping
Do you worry at all about a police state or
martial law or do you think this is the right
thing to do. Like I said, I think my overall consensus,
just knowing Trump, we voted for Trump. I'm going to

(01:22:07):
trust Trump on this one. I think that he's doing
the right thing. I don't think it's for police state
or martial law. Trump is not who I worry about
with that. If you want someone that's going to send
National Guard into places.

Speaker 4 (01:22:18):
That I would worry about, it would be Biden or.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Someone like that. Unfortunately, they just don't give a shit.
So the way they create chaos. Is just allowing prosecutors
to let out anyone that commits violent crimes. They allow
funding into these cities from people like George Soros to
organize and create chaos, burn down buildings, you know, kill people,
loot these businesses to where businesses all fell. I can't

(01:22:43):
even tell you even just in our city, you know
the amount of businesses that are going out of I mean,
they're just going to completely that a business are gone.
They're gone forever. Places we'll show up, you know, a
week ago we'd beat a business. This week we go
they're not there anymore. And this is the problem. It's
not just about online shopping. These are restaurants. These are
places in cities that have a problem with crime, and

(01:23:03):
when you have a problem with crime, a lot of
people tend.

Speaker 4 (01:23:05):
To stay away from those places.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
And that's happening in Spartinburg, that's happening in green That's
happened in a lot of places. I'm not necessarily saying
Greenville City as quite as bad, but Spartanburg is getting
a lot worse. And I know many cities that you
guys probably live near are probably also the same in
the similar boats. So you know, and unfortunately for a
lot of these juveniles, they think they can get away with.

Speaker 6 (01:23:25):
Liberal murder and literally they can.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Yeah, And because they're juveniles that are like, well, we
can do whatever the hell we want to nowadays. And
you know, these twelve and thirteen year olds are in gangs,
they're carrying guns, illegal weapons. You know, they're doing all
this shit, and none of the mayors or none of
the leaders in these cities give a shit. And so,
you know, I think for Trump, I think you have
to do something you don't you know, I think beforehand,

(01:23:50):
you know, when Trump was in office in twenty sixteen,
that's when BLM and all that shit really happened to
where they wanted to create chaos in these cities to
make Trump look bad. That was pretty obvious.

Speaker 6 (01:24:01):
Yeah, but the chaos has continued, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:03):
Exactly has continued. So now Trump's taking a further stance
on it. So whereas he hopes that maybe by doing this,
we can nip this shit in the bud before this
happens again, before another BLM, right before another Antifa riot,
before some other crazy shit that Democrats figure out how
to do to make the administration look bad. He's going
to try to get ahead of it. And that's just

(01:24:23):
at least what I see. But like I said, let
me know what you guys think about this. We're going
to play this out with the same song Welcome to
the city. As we say, guys, we support our troops,
we support a law enforcement. All you National guardsmen that
are in DC and are going to go to these
multiple states, we do pray for you, guys, and thank
you for serving our country and for looking out for

(01:24:45):
innocent civilians.

Speaker 4 (01:24:47):
So next time, guys, we love you. Peace outs.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
Relation guest, this is your station up in the country.
Will come to the city because of pity, love you
and plenty, And they do it all they say of you.

Speaker 17 (01:25:19):
Gas come to the city, except getting algae to.

Speaker 1 (01:25:30):
Say of yours.

Speaker 17 (01:25:33):
Come to the city. A come to the city.

Speaker 18 (01:25:41):
If you will find a thing here after theatress in
the nest of dream is pleased to the homes of
the real of good things you feel with the stranger.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Standing on the board of gales.

Speaker 19 (01:26:03):
And from the country, come through the city because of nity,
you love you and plenty.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
They do all that they say.

Speaker 16 (01:26:18):
Of you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:21):
To Jersey on Jersey, Jersey, come through the city. Sturn again.

Speaker 20 (01:26:34):
On the country, come through the city, put up in
the country, count the city, city.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
Sail of the country. Come to the.

Speaker 17 (01:26:55):
Count, come to the country.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
Will come to the city because of reility. Go to
fewer love the few of a puny. They don't have
the the Jr. Sixty at your sixteen, Jay, come through
the city. Except all they

Speaker 20 (01:27:27):
Say the country, welcome to the city, because of bred
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