Theo Von Dave Smith Breakdown | Venezuela, Israel, & Trump - Investigate Earth Conspiracy Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
You left your shoes by the doory like you come
back tonight. Ifod it of a shirt you bow didn't
know how to take the roof feels bigger than shut
every sound just face too soon? Howctual reach for your

(00:37):
Shadow like I'm waiting on you.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hello, and welcome to Investigator Podcast. I'm your host Shadow
alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On tonight's episode, we're gonna
break down and talk about the recent THEO Vaughn and
Dave Smith podcast interview because there are a couple of
things that they talk about on that episode that we've
already talked about number one and another subject that we
are likely going to have its own specific episode four

(01:04):
here very very soon. I don't actually have an intro
for tonight, so we're just gonna wing it. Usually we
do intros tonight, we're not doing it. Welcome to the show, guys.
It is January the sixth, twenty twenty six, and the
name of this song, by the way, is Smell of
Your Perfume by Me See Free, and I want you
guys to go and check out my brand new single
that is on Spotify right now, and it is called

(01:25):
Smell of Your perfume and the artist is see Free.
I will actually post the link to the song in
the episode description down below. If you guys want to
go share it, play it on whatever social.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Media accounts you have.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
You can put it on your Instagram, you can put
it on Facebook, you can put it on all that stuff.
But we've worked on that for a couple two or
three weeks Sherry. Sherry and I basically co wrote the
song together. And it's been like thirteen years since I've
been in music. That's actually how you and I started.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeahing, just listen to that voice. How great it is,
Like it's so crazy. I have to listen to the song.
His mom listens to it like a dozen times a day.
This is one of the best songs I think that
Chad is ever ever recorded. Yeah, and I alway to
say that I kind of picked the highs and the lows.

Speaker 5 (02:11):
I'm like, women are going to love that, Chad. You
got to have a little bit of high in your
voice because that's what turns us on. And I just
love this song. It's amazing. Well, like, I'm so proud
of you.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah, well we've done it, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
It's like I said, it's been thirteen years since I've
been in music, and it's like, you know what, I'm
like in my forties now, it's kind of time to
get back into it a little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
So I'm going to be doing music going forward for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
And like share, you're writing a book right now, which
hopefully is going to be released this month, so you've been.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
Working your promise yep.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
So yeah, we're just trying to do things we're very
passionate about right now.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
And music is my passion.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I know that Sherry's passion is true crime and that
kind of side of it. But you know, all of
the work that you guys have done on that book
is just incredible and I'm very proud of you guys.
I can't wait for people to read it. I've been
hearing most of it. I've not read it myself, but
I've heard.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
Most of it.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
But just like yesterday, guys, I spent twelve hours just
trying to format this book because you have to have
it in Chicago style format, and everything's got to be perfect.
Your lines have to be crossed the right way, you
have to have the right space and the right returns.
Oh my gosh, it is a headache. I understand why
people hire editors to do this. There's a lot of work.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
I want to just say too, Chad, I am really
proud of you with this song.

Speaker 5 (03:26):
I really love it. Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, it's you know, music is a lot of work,
you know, And that's the thing is like back in
the day, it didn't work out for us unfortunately, because
you know, we lost more money than we ever made
on music.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Although that's not why I was in music.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
I loved music, but you know, when you're kind of
in thirteen years ago, we were not necessarily in the
same position we are now, and so we have a
little more time to do things for ourselves and follow
our passions and what we want to do, and so
that's what we're trying to do. So guys, if you
would go and check out my song Smell of Your Perfume,
buy seafree on Spotify. You can also find it on YouTube,
but if you want to, oh, you can find on

(04:00):
iTunes as well. I think the song has a lot
of potential. I think it will connect with a lot
of people, and it connects with people in a lot
of different ways.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
The song is actually about just like missing someone or
losing somebody or whatever, and the smell I'm sure you've
had like you were missing someone at some point in time,
somebody sent and you smelled them and it just brings
them right back in the room with you, no matter
where you're at.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
And that's kind of what the song's all about.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I think our next song, which we're working on now,
is is going to be talking about Sharon and E's relationship,
kind of the through the storm viewpoint on it, because
I think a lot of people will go through all
kinds of craziness in relationships, and Shary and I definitely have.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
We've been no strangers that for fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
We've gotten from having cars repoed at ten o'clock at
night to all kinds of crazy stuff.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, it's it's been pretty nuts. We've been through a
little bit of everything in the course of our relationship,
and so we're working on a song that hopefully more
people relate to that because it's going to have a
good message though. Right it's just like us through the storm,
getting through it and coming out on the other side.
Because there's so many people it just seems like they
just give up on relationships nowadays, way too soon or

(05:04):
you know, it's like the least little thing happens and
they're like, now, screw you, I'm done with you. And
it's just like and I've told my friends, you know,
friends that are newly single or whatever, and I was like, man,
I would hate to date in this world in twenty
twenty five today, like trying to find a girl that's
not this or that or you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I'm not even going to go there.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
I'm just Gonna'm just gonna shut up. What you're saying
is you're very happy with me. No, I am a
very demanding wife.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Oh whatever, No, you're great.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I am so glad that we are together because anybody else,
you know, I just I don't know, it probably wouldn't work.
So there's a reason. There's a reason that we are together. So, guys,
what I was talking about is THEO Vonn and Dave Smith. Now,
they had a podcast episode that was released today. We're
obviously not going to break down the whole episode because
it is three hours, and a three hour episode will

(05:53):
be here for four and a half five hours if
we try to break down the whole episode.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
I did want to get to a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Obviously, Dave Smith is a comedian, as they call him,
but extremely extremely knowledgeable guy. I've always respected Dave's opinions.
I've not necessarily always agreed with everything that Dave has
talked about, but I have always respected Dave, and you know,
especially even on the Israel stuff. And he does talk
about Israel a little bit in the war with Theovonn

(06:19):
and this Theo Vonn obviously is a comedian as well,
like a good comedian. I'm sorry, Dave, I'm just saying,
but Theovon's really funny. But it's just like over the
past year, THEO has been getting more and more and
more a little bit into the politics reround me, and
especially about Israel. Like he's not afraid to call out Israel.
He's not afraid to call out like how he sees things.

(06:41):
And you know, especially he's brought on Tucker Carlson a
couple of times now, and I think Tucker and him
have just meshed so well together. And to be honest,
you know, Sharon and I used to watch THEO a
lot and it was just like THEO is kind of
out there sometimes. I mean, he'll just say some of
the craziest stuff you can freaking imagine, and you're like,
what does he.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Even know what he's talking about at all? Right now?
Like he does he have any clue?

Speaker 2 (07:03):
But it was like when he did the Tucker Carls interview,
it was like he really came out as like a
well thought out person from a standpoint of something he
really cares about, which was the Israel situation. And so
it was kind of refreshing to be able to hear
him talk about something that he had been researching, he
was passionate about, and he hung right with Tucker the

(07:25):
entire time. So having Davon, which is a very intellectual,
very smart person, Dave's also Jewish, So it's always been
interesting because they've always tried to Now they're trying to
call Dave like anti Semitic, and he's like, I'm Jewish,
you dumbass, Like how are you going to call me
anti Semitic?

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Like I'm Jewish, I'm anti Semitic against myself.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, I mean, So we're going to get into the
interview right now, this is the Dave Smith interview with
vonn We're going to break in in and out. Because
they first talked about Venezuela, which we just did a
podcast episode on our last episode about the Venezuela situation.
If you guys have not heard it, go check it out.
We'll start there and then it will eventually get into

(08:06):
the Israel situation. And I have some stuff to say
obviously on that.

Speaker 8 (08:10):
And here we go, like really quickly, and they snuck
in a regime change war in between. When you said
it's forty eight hours, we planned this, and they fit
a whole regime change in that forty eight hours.

Speaker 7 (08:21):
Well, it's good to know that they're making them faster.
Here we are and it's happened. Man, the crazy they
had that the photo came out of Maduro and his wife.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
I guess they picked him up.

Speaker 7 (08:31):
Well, the the US plans to run Venezuela and tap
its old reserves, Trump says after operation to alist Maduro,
What were the actual hours After an audacious military operation
that plucked leader Nicholas Maduro from power and removed him
from the country, President Donald Trump says out of the
United States would run Venezuela at least temporarily and tap

(08:52):
its vast oil reserves to sell to other nations. At
least they're being honest about that part. Yeah, it makes
you wonder kind of what's going on? What were the
exact attacks that happened. Does it say like did we
go kill a bunch of people? Yeah, we definitely killed
some people. There were a bunch of attacks.

Speaker 8 (09:08):
Uh, and then there was like an elite team that
went and got that was able to kidnap Maduro. And
I know so Mike Lee, the Senator posted on Twitter
that he had spoke to Marco Rubio and that Marco
Rubio had said something like the other attacks were like
in service of the mission to get Maduro. So like

(09:30):
I don't know what that, you know, taken out their
defenses or something like that. But so, I mean, I
don't know even where to start here, right, But so
there's a lot there's been obviously for for months now,
there's been like they've been attacking, they've been bombing the
boats that they're claiming our drug boats, but they haven't
really demonstrated that they are.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
It's kind of just taken their word for it.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
I mean, we don't know.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
You to see this video, you see this footage.

Speaker 7 (09:55):
Of like a black and white and then like a
zooming in of a nightg explosion.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
And there was that whole controversial double tap strike where
they came back to kill the survivors, which there was
a big controversy about, you know, because that's illegal under
international law. You'd have to demonstrate that they were like
still in the fight. And then there was you know,
I guess Pete Hagseth had said someone else made the decision,
but then they claimed that they were still trying to
get in the fight. It's all kind of sketchy, it's
not exactly clear. Marco Rubio, who's the Secretary of State

(10:25):
and also the National Security Advisor, and he's had that
position for most of the last year.

Speaker 9 (10:31):
This has been his pet project for a while.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
He's really wanted to get rid of the Maduro regime
in Venezuela. The drugs thing has always just been an
obvious bullshit pretext. I mean, like, there's no like to me, Well,
if you just look at the numbers, the Venezuela is
responsible for like a tiny fraction of the drugs that
come into America, and like almost none of the fetanyl.
And if you really had a problem, you know, when
people look at like the od deaths, the fetanyl is

(10:55):
really where the action is there, and that's all from Mexico,
from part it's made in China. Then, even when like
Donald Trump or Vake Ramaswami or some of these guys
would have real tough language about the drug cartels on
the campaign trail, it was always the Mexican drug cartels.
They were always saying that because they could at least
point to that and say, look, that leads to fentanyl,

(11:16):
which leads to all these overdoses. Now, those numbers have
been going down and getting better. But I think some people,
people I love, but some people have falsely like tributed
that to the attacks on these boats, bease of Venezuela,
when really all that is that there's a secure border

(11:36):
now and so less of the stuff is getting in
than was under Joe Biden.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
Oh for sure, And.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
We talked about that on the last episode. Is you know,
the fentanyl that's obviously not coming across our border right
now is because we do have one of the most
secure borders we've had in a very long time. As
much as I've criticized Trump, you know, Trump has done
an incredible job on the border.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
But it's not that hard to close your border.

Speaker 2 (11:59):
You just have to do what your actual border is
supposed to do. You have to have your border patrol
agents do their job. You can't take them away from
their job and say, don't you dare you know, keep
people out of our country. That's exactly what Biden did.

Speaker 5 (12:13):
Tie their hands behind their back.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
No, And you know, even any of the border patrol
agents or ice agents or customs, any of those guys,
like during the Biden administration, none of them were allowed
to ever speak to the media.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
And that was another thing.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
I know Fox News continually try to talk to different
border patrol agents and say, hey, is you know, why
are you guys not doing your job? Like how is
there this many people coming across our border? And anytime
they would ask them, they're like, we're not allowed to
talk to media. Now under the Trump administration, you know
at Fox News can go there, I mean, help border
patrol and customs go on Fox News now and literally
do interviews. And these are active agents. So there's a

(12:50):
huge difference in the rhetoric from this administration to the last.
And as Dave says, absolutely, Trump and them campaigned on
We're going to go after the drug cartels in Mexico.
That's what they campaigned on, and we're going to make
sure that we stopped this ventanyl from coming in. Now,
they did that primarily through the border, but they're not
necessarily going after the drug cartels in Mexico. But they

(13:12):
do want to attribute the fentanyl coming down to Venezuela
because it just makes sense for the whole picture of like, hey,
this is why we went into Venezuela. And now it's
not even like that now that we're in. Now that
we've already went in, we've took Maduro. We're basically in
control of their oil. Now, when Trump's on camera, he's
just like, yeah, we took their oil.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
You know, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 5 (13:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
No, no drugs, no drugs, all live.

Speaker 5 (13:37):
You know.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
That's kind of the way it is now. He just
doesn't give a shit. He's like, and by the way,
I think we need to take Greenland. Oh man, okay,
I'm not doing a good job with Trump at all.
I think we need to take Greenland and then we're
gonna go to Colombia.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
It reminds me of a video we watched today. It
was a video of Trump, but it's I took that shit.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
I took that shit.

Speaker 9 (13:59):
Yeah, I took that shp.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
It was hilarious.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
Oh my god, I was dying laughing.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
It was pretty funny.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
They have a video they've dubbed Trump in his AI
and he's like sitting there and looking like he's talking
like six' nine the, rapper and you, know six' nine
is saying, something, LIKE yeah i just went AND down
i took, that shit. You know and This is trump,
saying this and he's talking Obviously, about venezuela, you know.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
In this but it.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Was, hilarious anyways let's.

Speaker 8 (14:23):
Get back but so so then cut to what was it?

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Last week it, got, UH well i want to bring.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
This up.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
Go ahead venezuela is involved in, trafficking cocaine but current
data shows it is responsible for only a small share
of the drugs that actually end up IN the, us
market especially compare with Throughouts through Mexico And. CENTRAL america
Us GOVERNMENT. Class fizs inezuela is a major drug, transit
country Mainly for colombia cocaine moving Towards The Caribbean. Central
america but.

Speaker 8 (14:49):
Even that would be more of a justification to Deal
with colombia right than it would be.

Speaker 7 (14:54):
A da fact sheets cited in twenty twenty five reporting
says ninety percent of cocaine REACHING the us is Produced
in colombia and Enters through mexico without Even mentioning venezuela
as a.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
Primary, corridor yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
And there's some OTHER reasons i want to go, into
too why people think that we're what we're doing. Down there,
BUT yeah i just wanted to get.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Some of this tash.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
For SURE and i want to also Say that venezuela
would not be a primary Corridor for colombian drugs because
that would be the dumbest way to take drugs From
The south america To The, united states because then you
have to load them. On boats you got to do
all kinds. Of, shit otherwise you As a colombian, drug
trafficker all you gotta do is just go Northwest In,
south america go right Up. Through mexico you use the

(15:35):
cartels to, help you because most of the time they're all.
Connected anyway the cartels pay a certain amount for, the
drugs then once it gets in the, cartel's hands cartel
then brings it over To The. United states that's typically
how that drug trafficking supply chain goes you know that
it's Not that colombia is selling it Directly, to americans
Is that colombia is selling it directly to the Cartels.

(15:57):
Of mexico the Cartels in mexico bring that To The,
united states and so, you know the cartels are still,
getting in they still have ways even though the border.
Is secure, you know they're now just taking boats Off the,
west coast, you Know because trump's not blowing up boats
Off the west coast as of, right now but they're
just taking boats off the west Coast of mexico and

(16:18):
Going into california Still Because Governor gavin newsom is basically just,
like yes, come one, come all come Right. Through california
so that's what's. Still happening it's NOT any, i mean
it's not changed any that just saw video the other
day of boats showing Up on. California coast and so,
it's like if you want to start like blowing up people,
or boats, you know and you really care about drugs Getting,

(16:40):
into america you might want to start looking off the
Coast of mexico Going to California Where gavin newsom is
inviting them. Open arms, but yeah so there's no real
world scenario To where columbia just hands off Drugs to
venezuela And then venezuela has to somehow figure out how
to get them Into The united states because that's a pain,
the ass and, especially now so they're probably even going

(17:00):
to be most all their drugs Going.

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Through, MEXICO well i have news.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
For You president trump Said that columbia better watch their.

Speaker 9 (17:07):
Ass too.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Oh God.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
And, CUBA well, i, mean look, you know and that's,
you know it's LIKE and i actually want to play
this clip in just, A Minute andrew tait Talking about,
venezuela situation and then he also Talks about columbia and all.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
That stuff we'll play it in.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
A moment, But yeah trump's, talking about, you know going Down,
to columbia taking that shit over to, you know going
going into where else do, You, Say.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh, Cuba yeah i'm Gonna take. Cuba too.

Speaker 4 (17:33):
Greenland's next oh, my god these people are gonna be
so annoyed with me.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Laughing anyways, so yeah so That's what. Trump's.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Doing Though trump's trump wants to kind of take over
as much property and land as. He can it seems
like a lot of people Thought the greenland thing was.
A joke sounds like it's not a joke because now, he's,
saying look we'll use military force that we. Have to
trump's saying the reason for that Is because greenland has
All these russian ships Outside, of greenland They have chinese
ships Out. Of greenland it is a very strategic. LAND

(18:02):
mass i Guess between China. And, russia now is that true?

Speaker 5 (18:07):
OR not i.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
DON'T know, I mean i literally have.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
NO idea i don't necessarily know why you Would have
Chinese and russian ships just hanging Out. In greenland but,
WE also i mean we for sure Know that russian
ships are out In the pacific in. International waters we
know that they, fly.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Well they're Even in, Florida, too yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Well off the Coast, of florida way.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Out there but we also know they'd fly strategic bomber
training missions like off the Coast, of alaska where we
have to usually intercept them. QUITE often i Know that
russia actually just recently. DID that i think it Was
On christmas, eve night and it pissed off a lot of,
the pilots apparently because It Was christmas. Eve night they,
were chilling they were trying to have A Nice. Christmas
eve and of course What does. Russia do they send

(18:46):
their bombers and fighters like close to, the border close
to our Airspace. In alaska and so they had to
scramble this entire Unit On christmas eve just to go
up there and deal with. This shit and they did
the same Thing On, christmas day they did It On New.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
Year's eve they just.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
Keep screwing putin's doing That, on oh.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
For SURE but i want to Know why trump, Is
saying i'm coming after you the drug cartel In the, Mexico, Area.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Mexico mexico. MEXICO cartel i.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
DON'T know, i, mean look, you Know the mexico thing,
is strange and, YOU know i have. MY theories i
don't know. FOR sure i Know that trump said that
he had talked with the President. Of mexico, she, said, no, no,
no don't, do That, mister president we cannot. Have that
but yet then, you Know the mexico president's kind of,
talking Shit said, trump lately.

Speaker 4 (19:32):
You know but which does to have a really sticky
situation because the President of mexico Is, pro israel and
obviously We're, pro israel.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
And she's heavily Funded. By, israel yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
And We're, pro israel but we have Something, against mexico
and that's them bringing all the drugs into our country
and them allowing the drug cartels to.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Do, that well, You know i'm not sure If like
israel has anything to do with the fact that we're
not Going into mexico. OR not i have, No idea
like we talked about on the, LAST episode, i Mean
could israel have anything to do with us Going.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Into venezuela we.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
DON'T know, i mean there are so many people, speculating
that because everybody's speculating that about. Everything now but kind
of what our conclusion was on the last episode is
it's just really hard to tell what the actual reason
of why We're.

Speaker 5 (20:16):
IN venezuela, i, mean yes they are the biggest old
producer in.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
The world yes they have a ton, Of oil but
what was the real reason of Taking out maduro and keeping?

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Him, alive yeah but then You.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Have machado machado's not the acting president. Right now actually
It is maduro's vice president that is the that is
still in power in. AN office i just saw that
they issued a state of Emergency today venezuela and they
have told all police officers this was as of an,
hour ago all police officers in military to go and
find anyone that cooperated With The united states in helping

(20:48):
Them get maduro and arrest. Them IMMEDIATELY and i mean
they're going Again the, trump administration and they have issued
an announcement to all the, law enforcement, all military anyone
that cooperated With The united states on that that must
be brought into.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Custody.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Immediately yeah so and they, ISSUED that i think it
was about an. Hour ago so we'll see what happens.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
With that but why would they do That because Trump
and rubio basically said that if this, doesn't work we
have a Clean sweep number two that's.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Coming, Up, yeah well it's because right now they have
the vice president in power and the vice President. Under
maduro obviously you would think why in the hell would
they leave a vice president, In power but you Also,
have machado the opposition Party. To maduro that was one
of THE ones i guess that. Basically lost, you know
she is Very, heavy israel. Very heavy she wants to

(21:37):
move their Consulate. To jerusalem she's all she basically talks About.
Is israel and SO what i see this coming is
like they're going to, act, like well we tried to
leave in the. Vice president it didn't work because they're doing.
This now we got to Bring, in machado, you know
we just got to bring this, person, In right but everybody's.
Already speculating, everybody's like here's the. NEXT president i don't

(21:58):
care whatever the hell they're trying. To say, right now
this is who they're going to. Put in so we're
just waiting to see when, that happens if. It happens
but it seems like if the current Administration of venezuela
is doing, this now it's probably gonna happen sooner.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Or later here's Some, more no.

Speaker 9 (22:14):
That's important i'm glad. You did where were?

Speaker 8 (22:15):
You well so, last week if, You Remember talker carlson
had said that he had he had a source Saying That,
donald Trump Whose, donald trump was addressing the nation, that
night and he had Said That donald trump's going, to announce,
you know an escalation in the war or a declaration,
of war which, you know technically the president. Can't DO
but i guess we're way. Past, that yeah that he

(22:36):
was going to announce that he was going. In THERE
and i had, A couple i had a couple OF
people i know who are like close to it who
said the, same thing and then, he didn't which was kind.
Of strange and he also like he interrupted your regularly,
scheduled programming like it was a presidential, addressing, megation yeah a,
week ago but then like didn't really, announce anything just
announced how great the economy was or something.

Speaker 9 (22:57):
Like that and so then.

Speaker 8 (22:58):
It came this, week instead but This, was look it's
an unbelievably successful operation as of, right now and so,
that's WELL maybe i got, THAT wrong i said.

Speaker 9 (23:08):
LAST week i guess it was a couple. Weeks ago
on the Evening.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
Of, december sixteenth Political Commentator tucker carlson set off a
firestorm when he Claimed That President donald trump was poised
to announce you as military Invasion of venezuela during his,
primetime address.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
But as the hour, came went no such. Announcement Materialized president.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
Trump made no Mention, of venezuela nor if any military
operation targeting The Embattled south.

Speaker 5 (23:28):
AMERICAN nation.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
I wonder if he did that because he didn't want
carlsonava actually have.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Called, it no it wouldn't have, been that.

Speaker 9 (23:34):
YOU know i. DON'T know, i mean it's LIKE it's i.

Speaker 8 (23:37):
Don't know it's possible that he was planning on doing
it and then backed out. Of it It's possible tucker got.
Bad information it's possible that plans just changed, or whatever.
You know but but the thing did come a couple,
weeks later so it does at least seem like there
was something that might have been, you know accurate. About it,
BUT look, I mean, i guess first, and foremost this

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really wasn't an incredible success just in terms of a, military, operation, LIKE.

Speaker 7 (24:04):
Oh i shocked he got it done and then they check.
Made it they took the king.

Speaker 8 (24:09):
And, queen dude there's a well, THAT'S right, I mean,
and okay so this picture now and now.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
Looks like he's playing one of those games with those
things dropping it, or Whatever.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Like ilio would be like real good.

Speaker 8 (24:19):
At it, you're, like whoa that's how he knocks people
out like that he got crazy speed if that's all he.

Speaker 7 (24:24):
Was doing but this is SO because i first, saw this, this
ONE and i, was like who? IS this i thought
it was like one of those like the mass singer
or whatever they. WERE doing i get the military or whatever?

Speaker 5 (24:33):
IS this i.

Speaker 7 (24:34):
JUST couldn't i couldn't figure OUT because i just saw
the image well AND then, i realized oh, my god,
that's Uh.

Speaker 8 (24:38):
That's maduro so evidently the vice president Was in russia at,
the time and the vice president demanded proof that He's that,
maduro's alive And then trump tweeted. This out so not
clear whether it's like in response, to that like here's
the proof that that.

Speaker 9 (24:54):
He's alive but it does seem like they have him and.

Speaker 8 (24:57):
His WIFE and i, just say like the success the,
Military OPERATION like, i know there's, you know there's been
all types like historically of attempts BY the us AND
the ciada to kill, You Know saddam hussein or To
kill castro or all types of, other leaders and they
have succeeded in Something nor diego they got him. And

(25:18):
whatever but like there's been attempts to like kill or
capture all types, of leaders but for it to happen,
like this like in, one day in, one attack go
in and. GET him i mean we even in two thousand,
AND three i think we were in a rack for
a couple months before We Got. Saddam hussein, you know
so they, Got, him okay, All.

Speaker 5 (25:37):
RIGHT and i want to make a point About.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Jd Vance jd vance was nowhere anywhere Around this, venezuela
attack and everybody, was, wondering like why Is jd vance
nowhere to, be seen nowhere to be heard of during.
This attack, you know apparently he Was in russia, or somewhere,
you know that's what. They say but it was strange
because like he, went black he went dark during this
Entire op he didn't really tweet out anything during, this

(26:02):
time Even when trump just started to talk about it
and kind of everybody started to talk. About it so,
you know it was something that some people, are questioning
like why? Is that is he working on? Something else
is he a part of? Something, else also like two,
days later we have, you know seven or eight c
seventeens TONS of us military aircraft that is going across

(26:23):
the POND, into uk which FROM what i have seen
is that a lot of that equipment has actually shown Up.
In israel so it seems like obviously With the iran
government potentially falling, right now or you know a lot
of people in the streets trying to take over government
buildings so on and, so forth, a coup which is,
you know not that surprising because we figured something like that.

(26:43):
Would happen we've been, saying that, you know the next
war is going To. Be iran israel's not going to
let that. Not happen right now is the, perfect time and,
more so as we also, TALKED about i think likely
they have intelligence Assets in iran that's probably promoting and
pushing this overthrow of, the government and then they can
just more easily Go into iran and kind of help,

(27:03):
it out even though that could backfire because, you know
if you have this mass uprising that you may have
created right against, your regime And then israel Or The
united states Goes into iran, after this that could backfire
on them because then the people could turn away from
going against their own government and now focusing on Going
against israel Or The, united states and then it kind

(27:23):
of just completely stops your coup overthrow. Type thing SO
what i think what they're trying to do without necessarily
Going into iran to, start WITH is i think they're
trying to use the people potentially to overthrow the government
so that the leader will flee that they can then
more easily come in and try to control or put
in the right people. In power, you know just like

(27:46):
they Did. IN ukraine i think that's likely, their PLAN
but I do i do see most likely the next
conflict Will.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Be iran THAT'S what.

Speaker 8 (27:53):
I see, So anyways but one of the things that's
so fascinating is like it's almost like like the last
twenty five years don't exist when you go ON like
i go on social media today and you just see
All the warhawks all got their mission accomplished signs, Up
right like they're, all, celebrating, like look we got them
when really.

Speaker 9 (28:14):
GETTING them, i, mean look.

Speaker 8 (28:16):
It's impressive they did it in one day without like
a lot of boots on. The ground, you know we
got a real badass military if people, haven't noticed like
the most badass group of fighting men that have ever
been assembled in. Human history but we know we can kill,
These guys like we know we Could Kill. Saddam hussein
we know we Could Kill momar Kadafi or Gaddafi Or.

(28:37):
Bashah asad we could get him OUT. Of pa it's
like the question is what? Comes next that's always, the
question and that's the QUESTION that dc has always, gotten wrong,
you know for twenty five. Straight years so like to
see them celebrating when there's not even we have no
idea what the hell is going to come, Next now
and it's not even a Situation like Iraq or afghanistan
where we were militarily occupying. The country so it's a

(29:00):
lot easier to direct who comes next when your troops are.
On there we don't even have that. Right now trump
just said he's gonna. Run it, he said we're gonna,
run it and then we'll decide who to hand it. Off,
to well that's, FUCKING vague, i mean, all right like
what and and? Since when, YOU know i listened with
a force of like over a hundred, thousand troops substantially more,

(29:22):
than that over two hundred thousand at, ONE point i
listened to for twenty, straight years every warhawk in this
country lie through their fucking teeth about how Capable this
afghan government that we had just built up there was
And How now i'm Not saying Venezuela and afghanistan are
the exact, same Thing but i'm, just saying like that
was with a twenty year military occupation and all this

(29:43):
backing and hundreds of billions of dollars, of weapons it
fell apart in, two days, You know so like the
idea of.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
That hooky bar is remember all, That shit oh, yeah yeah,
like so and then out there we're doing like those.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
Tire drills yeah we are guys lost to that we.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
Were doing they were doing those like running through, the
tires get your knees up type of shit like they.

Speaker 9 (30:02):
Were and they were like there was some fucking kind
of nails.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
It there and then we had pe teachers over there
like it just it.

Speaker 8 (30:09):
Was unbelievable and, SO anyway i guess they're just like
the hubris of just, being like, you, know LIKE look
I don't. I said people were kind of giving me
some of the anti war people actually were kind of
giving me shit TODAY because I just i posted Something
on TWITTER where i, was, LIKE well i hope this,
works well BUT like, I do i hope it works,
out well LIKE i'd i would take it working out,
real well and, then okay that doesn't look as good

(30:31):
for the non interventionist types, like me like see this one, Works,
well okay it's already, done now, SO like i hope it.
Works out but to watch people celebrating as if it's
a given that it's gonna, work out it's like, it's
dude so you're and by, the way we didn't at
least as, Of Now donald trump kind of like diminished
the opposition leader and is at least floating out the

(30:53):
idea that the vice president can like kind of maintain a.
Transitional control so so we haven't even throwing the communists
or anything like that yet and the, idea, That right.

Speaker 7 (31:03):
So what exactly is, being done that's the. Biggest, question
yeah because he was arrested on. Narco terrorism this is
delt del and gun.

Speaker 8 (31:10):
Charges AND evidently us gun Control. Covers venezuela now.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
There's a couple of theories of why we're even, doing.
This right one of the reasons is because there's certain
countries that are outside of like our kind of, comfort.
Grid right and there's certain countries that are outside of our, banking, system,
yes Right and venezuela is one, of. Those yep and
so and they also control a lot.

Speaker 8 (31:37):
Of, oil well so in a, weird way like one
of THE things i like to do with these with
these wars is like you can kind of peel away, the,
excuses so, you know for. For what so, when, people uh, you, know,
say oh we're fighting the War in iraq to.

Speaker 9 (31:52):
Spread democracy or something, like that and then.

Speaker 8 (31:54):
You, could, go okay so we're close Allies With saudi
arabia AND the ua and like all these, other countries
but we have an issue about democracy, and, no sorry
that's bullshit because if it was or then they'll, say,
like oh we have To support ukraine Because Of vladimir
putin's human, rights abuses and, you're, like wait human, rights
abuses but you sent twenty five billion dollars to Net

(32:17):
and yahoo in the last, Two years, LIKE nah i
don't think human rights abuses is really. The issue and
then even, they'll, say, like well it's because. They're socialists
and it's like we've been Arming the Kurds in Iraq
and syria for, decades now, Also socialists, so, LIKE nah
i actually. Don't think so it's like you kind of
can peel away some of these bullshit excuses and, then
go what's it? Really ABOUT and i got my best

(32:39):
guess on this is that TWO things i think play
huge influence. In this it's, Number One, donald trump who
always seems to just see a deal and, that's all,
you know like in, his mind he seems to think he's.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
An opportunity his military is telling him.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
We can take this guy out and put our, people
in AND then i could get huge, oil sales AND
then i could turn around, and say look how good this,
economy is and we win the midterm elections.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
And whatever he always has LIKE he's i Can sell.
TRUMP oil i can sell like. Baby, oil, Yeah, RIGHT
trump i Can sell yeah the new gold shoes, like
me the gold shoes.

Speaker 9 (33:11):
Came.

Speaker 8 (33:11):
Out yeah he Looks at gaza while the rest of
us are all like crying for the baby who's being
crushed to death by cement and screaming for his mother
who can't come help him because there's no Bulldozers. In
gaza we look at that, and go oh, my god the.
Human Tragedy donald Trump And jared kutcher see beachfront property
like that's like where their.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Mind goes, They're, like.

Speaker 7 (33:30):
God the baby's ruining. This opportunity no one's gonna want
to relax with, the title with this. Crying baby how
we got to get this baby out. Of here so they're,
not like they're not like ethnically cleansing because they believe In.
Greater israel they want to ethnically cleanse so that rich
people can enjoy a sunset on the beach.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
It's just always got to be a better place to have.

Speaker 8 (33:49):
My, time, Yeah right, so anyway but then the, other
THING and i do think this is a real part,
of it Is That marco Rubio is cuban and they're
also Allied.

Speaker 9 (33:58):
WITH cuba a lot, of this a lot of this
stuff with like.

Speaker 8 (34:01):
The allies it's kind of like if you heard any,
you know Like The bricks agreement stuff that that's like
really advanced over the last.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Few years Stuff, With china China and russia and all.

Speaker 8 (34:10):
Of, them so like what happens is that if YOU'RE
the us is the, world empire the most powerful empire
in the history of. The world so if you're on
the outs, with us you kind of have no choice
other than to make friends with the other people who
are on the outs, with us because those are like
your only. Options left like that's Actually Why fidel castro
went communists to, begin with because he was enemies With

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The united States. Of america and so what were you going?

Speaker 7 (34:33):
To, Do right you got an ally With the soviet
you got and that's gonna have, some, Boys right that's
it's like going, to, prison right you got to join
one gang or. The other and so a lot, of
them they end up having, friendly relations but the, belief
is and they've said this quiet part out loud a bunch.
OF times i don't know if this is true, or
not but they think that the Regime in cuba will
fall as a result of this regime. Being overthrown and

(34:57):
there's a whole Bunch of Cubans, In america marco rub
being one, of them who understandably really hate Socialism, in
cuba but remember it as like a successful country. Before
then EVEN though I think rubio was actually ruined before
the cash his family, Was like cuba is actually, mean, no, NO
no I Think, marco Ruby if i'm remembering, this correctly
his family got kicked out by Like the batista regime

(35:17):
or they had some beef, with them but they.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
Would but they they want to Overthrow.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
The communey IT'S like i want TO do i want
to get done with my parents wanted to get done time,
and yeah something.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Like that and what he's saying here is Though that
cuba is heavily reliant and very very Reliant, on venezuela
and they have been for a very, long time and
now That The united states has Taken, over venezuela especially
their oil basically going to be, taken over their. Finances
everything they don't have to do Anything to Cuba for cuba, to,
Fall right And when, cuba falls then.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
That'll probably be Like A puerto rico.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Or something it'll be a part Of The united states in,
some way shape, or form just Like likely venezuela could also.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
End up but if you talk To any american that
Are A, CUBAN american i Guess, in america if you
talk to any of, these people people They hate cuba
and they hate that an administration that's, in there and
they want an. Administration change and there's so many people
Over in cuba that.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Are, suffering yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
For, SURE well, i mean and it's always been the
very interesting thing about so many wars and so many
things has always been a lot like we're going to,
Fight communism we're going to fight all. This shit, you
know that was Back In, operation northwoods EVEN. With jfk although,
you know Back in, northwoods Days the joint Chiefs of
staff CAME to jfk and, they, said hey we want
To kill americans and make it look like It was.
Cuban TERRORIST and jfk Was like we're not, doing that

(36:30):
are you on? CRACK right, i mean that's what he
basically told his twelve joints of chiefs, Of staff and
so that plan Was basically Nol. And boyd although we
do know based on, declassified documents That The united states
number one has always wanted to Take. Down cuba they've
always basically wanted To. Control cuba and there's a lot
of reasons. For that number one is Because of China and,
russian influence also in Relationships.

Speaker 5 (36:52):
With Cuba obviously cuba's writer a.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
BACK door I think venezuela was a chess piece That
The united states, also used is going to help them
probably at some point in time Go into cuba and
at least control.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Them more than they ever.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Have before but, you know even like with, the THEORY
and i got to talk about, this too there's so
many people that have emailed us and asked us about
the central banking System. In venezuela it's not necessarily true
that they are not a part of.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Central banking. They are they do have a.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Central bank they are even a part of The World
global Alliance of banks. And Whatever although venezuela owed that
system or their multiple systems that are a part of
like multi billions.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
OF dollars i believe never we're going to.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Pay them and so, although yes they were a part
of the central, banking system they also owed them shit tons,
of money so they weren't really working. With them we
also Know The united states actually Sanctioned of venezuela over
the past eight to, ten years and in that sanction
in it basically allowed or basically Didn't allow venezuela to
go like especially with credit cards and debit cards and

(37:57):
various things that we were afforded here In The united States,
And europe venezuela does not have.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Access to so that was BECAUSE of.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Us sanctions so a lot like some of that was,
our doing, you know in the Fact that venezuela could
not operate the same way we do on the banking
system and THE banking i. Guess platform but then number
two Is that venezuela just owed them shit tons, of
money was never going to pay them although they had
the money to. Pay them so is it a logical

(38:24):
theory that they weren't a part of the central? Banking
system is why we? DID this i don't necessarily, believe
that we do know they were a part.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
Of it but, you know did they give them a
part of the bricks system money System?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
With, RUSSIA well, i mean it depends on how you look,
at it because, you know we do know that they
did do Business with Russia and China and iran and
you know. Whoever else so regardless of HOWEVER that i
mean you and you also got to, think too, you
know If The united states sanctioned you and then you
all the central banking systems billions, of dollars well you
have to be able to make. Money somehow and so

(38:58):
the way they were MAKING money Us through Russia and
china and wherever their oil exports, were going, you know
and we didn't really get any of.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Their oil we, do know by, the Way The united.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
States has, been, saying well we we sent in and
set up infrastructure back in, the, day right and then
it was basically stolen. From us we do Know that
china did indeed actually Go. To venezuela they set up
a lot of. Oil infrastructure this was.

Speaker 5 (39:21):
The, post yeah this was.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Post and so it Seems like china at the very
least was probably trying to really get In to Venezuela
on mascal And. CONTROL venezuela i don't Know. About russia
I'm sure russia was also kind of involved. In this
They say iran was. As well but, either way if
you just look at this situation from a strictly standpoint,
of like let's Not, let china let's Not, let russia

(39:43):
and let's Not let iran, in obviously because they're kind
of right at our, back door we have to.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Go in we're going to control. This shit and if
you don't, like it then, you, Know.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah and so, you know from, that standpoint it wasn't a,
bad Move right if that's what your, thing is that's what,
you know that's what you see is. Going on you
Know that china's, down there just Like The. Panama canal
we Apparently that china controls a lot Of The. Panama
canal That's why trump in the beginning of his term, was,
like hey we're going to take Back The. Panama, canal

(40:15):
like we don't even own that shit. NO more i
don't know why we ever. Sold, It now china basically
runs everything, through there and that's a very strategic canal
To The united States. Or america why in the hell
would we ever sell it and why would We let
china basically move in very similarly to the same shit
we've talked about for a year To where china owned
so much farmland In The. United states were literally like

(40:35):
we were letting them buy farmland next to military bases
In The. UNITED states, i mean we have It In, North, Carolina, Oklahoma,
California Montana. South, carolina yeah and, you know AND although
i don't know about all the military bases as far
As where China's or chinese land, is here but we
Do know we've talked about many times there are tons
of huge buildings Around The south carolina that are Owned by.

(40:57):
Chinese companies and some of these companies.

Speaker 5 (40:59):
You don't even know what to. They do ill they
could be making weapons for all.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
We, know well and that's what's crazy is some of
these huge industrial buildings that we see That have chinese names.
On them, they're huge but they look vacant all. The
time you never see, cars, there.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
No but they do have tons of shipping and usually
the fencing around the buildings are barbed. Wire fencing you
don't see very many, cars there, very often you don't
even see any, trucks there but you do see a
massive amount of, shipping containers AND so i.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
DON'T know i have no idea what's going on.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
With that most of that was allowed to happen During the,
BIDEN administration, i know also During the obama administrations when.
It started Then when trump, came in that was like a.
FOUR years i guess they were still moving and, doing
THINGS but I guess trump was not really up on
any of. That shit we didn't really start finding out
about All the chinese farmland until at least the public
Until the. BIDEN administration i don't even know what we're

(41:50):
going to do about. IT now i know they are
trying to pass some Stuff through congress to Not allow
chinese companies to buy In The.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
United states, you know it's just. The same but the
damage is.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Already done and do You think china Would let americans
buy Land?

Speaker 5 (42:01):
In, china no.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Absolutely not and but that's something the government can do
is go to go To these chinese landowners and say,
peace out. YOU'RE done i don't give a damn if
you bought. Or not you you Are a. Chinese national
you are a, part of or connected to in, some
Way the. Chinese government every business and company that Comes
from china is connected To The Chinese. COMMUNIST party, i
mean there is no distinction because you don't get your

(42:25):
license in and not, only that NOT just i mean it's,
similar here but it's just a lot. More Stringent for
china to have corporations and stuff that are going to
come To The, united states they're going to have probably
spies in. Those companies they're going To have they're going
to utilize these companies to gain entry Into The, united
states to SPY on us, military basis to potentially hack,

(42:48):
our systems to surveil, our systems our, power grids you,
name it.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
Well and love them. Do that do you remember When
the chinese spybling Came across america just let it happen
and just watched it. GO through, i mean we saw
it in the. Sky, ourselves yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
It's, NUTS yeah i have no idea why that was allowed,
To HAPPEN but i just wanted to kind of explain
some of that as they're talking, through this.

Speaker 9 (43:07):
And, you know which is.

Speaker 8 (43:09):
SOMEWHAT understandable i just think like you should be upfront
with that and not try to USE the us military
to like live out your. Personal fantasy in a, weird
way it's a Similar. Thing israel well it seems like
that's a lot of what's going on. These, days yeah
it's like you kind Of get trump, in there and
he is. A boss you Know what. I'm saying the
dude is, like merse like you almost want to. SAY

(43:29):
merciless i don't know. THAT word, i mean he's.

Speaker 5 (43:35):
He's he's.

Speaker 7 (43:37):
HE'S him, i mean. HE'S exactly i don't even fucking
how to, describe. Him dude but but you Know what, I'm,
saying yeah it's ALMOST like i don't even know how to.

Speaker 8 (43:45):
Describe, things well he's like a different kind of person
man than almost, anybody else for good and.

Speaker 7 (43:49):
For bad one of the one of the things you, just,
said though was just About the. Venezuela thing there was
another article a guy was talking about a paper tiger
and it was kind of a challenge to the, bricks
countries like to that. Outside group AND first i want
to get what is a? Paper tiger holding? As perplexity
what is a?

Speaker 8 (44:08):
Paper, tiger well something that appears to be ferocious but
is really just, you know like made. Of paper like
the idea is, that, like, oh yeah you present yourself
as strong, and powerful but you're.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Really weak it's like, a, bluff.

Speaker 7 (44:20):
Yes yeah and, foreign policy a paper tiger is, a
state alliance or threat that looks militarily or politically powerful
from the outside but is, actually, weak limited or unwilling
to act. WHEN challenged i always, loved that by, the way,
which like if they're a, paper tiger then why the
hell we got to fight wars?

Speaker 9 (44:34):
Against?

Speaker 8 (44:34):
Them then, you know, like essentially because this is what
they always Said. About russia, they'd say in, One breath
john McCain, Would say russia is just a gas station.
With nukes so they, would go all they are, is this,
you know they got some gas and they got, some
nukes but they got no economy and they got this.

Speaker 9 (44:50):
Tiny gdpape and.

Speaker 8 (44:51):
Then in the, next breath all the, hawks go if
we Don't, fund ukraine they're going to Take over poland
and Reconstitute The. Soviet union, you're, LIKE well i thought they. Were,
Weak yeah, so like which one? Is it are they
taking over All of europe or are? They not because
if they're if, they're weak then maybe we don't really
need to worry.

Speaker 7 (45:06):
About, them yeah there's a lot of hypocrisy that, goes on,
YOU know, i mean. It's constant this guy is an.
INTERESTING take, i thought just about, this stuff then we
can get it out of.

Speaker 10 (45:14):
Our System the venezuelan issue is both crucial tests of
paper tiger quality on the part of all the great Powers, Now,
china russia And The. United states china knows very well
that the fentanyl excuse to stop the alleged fentanyl trade
Into The united states is Used by trumpet mobilized for War,

(45:37):
against Venezuela where china is the largest of them. International
Investors if China and russia LET the us make a,
regime change Just Kill president marduro and Destroy the venezuelan
government and replace It With missus machado or. Something else
what's the credibility of the two of the three powers

(46:00):
in bricks to assist anyone. Even themselves that's the paper.
Tiger aspect if it's the case That neither China nor
russia can Deter, Nor, Bricks brazil india and The others
iran can Deter The united states, from Destroying invading venezuela
and destroying its. Sovereign government if, they can't then bricks

(46:23):
is a paper tiger.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
To just kind.

Speaker 9 (46:26):
Of interesting it.

Speaker 7 (46:27):
Is interesting all the little things that could be a part, of,
it right because it does just seem kind, Of confusing
like most people could not pick.

Speaker 5 (46:34):
Out where venezuela is on, a, mat right most of us.

Speaker 7 (46:37):
Had never even Thought of maduro or heard of him
before probably within the, past, month right unless, you like,
YOU know, i mean he's had a very, interesting stories
like coming up as a bus driver and being like
a man of the people, and everything but then seemingly
getting compromised and like overwhelmed by wealth and power.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
Over time.

Speaker 7 (46:56):
And then like a lot of his influences and stuff
were very like socialist influence and stuff.

Speaker 8 (47:00):
Like that and so then but like also to, your
point like imagine, you know when, you're saying so many
people couldn't have, you know picked this out On pick
venezuela ad on a map or something. LIKE that, i
mean if you, just, think GREAT so i was here
a year ago, with you how drastically different things are
just a. YEAR ago, i mean like a, Year Ago

(47:22):
donald trump had his highest approval ratings that he's. Ever
had he was the greatest political comeback Story in. American
history just something that was, totally like it was amazing
the way he not only came back from, like say
where he was Right after, january sixth when the question
was whether he's gonna go to jail and going through
all the trials and, getting shot and then to not

(47:42):
only come back and win the popular vote and win every,
swing state but he won, the culture he won. The,
youth yeah it would have been like it would seemed
impossible just a few. Years earlier him literally Black Guess
john jones is Doing The trump Dance At Madison. Square
garden we were both there that night and just, a crazy, crazy,
Thing right and now you know he's totally like divided.

(48:07):
As base there's an infight in the repulse all. This stuff,
but anyway so a, year ago when people were so
Excited About donald trump, coming in you never Met one
trump supporter in your life, who, went now we're going
to get regime Change. In, venezuela yeah That's why i'm
Excited That donald. TRUMP'S here, i mean people wanted no,
new wars they wanted the, border secure they wanted the economy,

(48:27):
turned around they wanted inflation. Dealt with there was never
there was no Demand from. Trump's base and so this
is like one more Example Of donald trump just siding
with the warhawks over his. Own people and one of
the things THAT really i find it like to be
so it's such a like an intolerable Humiliation Of donald,

(48:49):
trump supporters is that all, these guys, The Warhawks, Marco Rubio,
Ben Shapiro, mark, levin like go down, the list all,
Of Them, ted cruise every last one.

Speaker 5 (49:01):
Of them they were The.

Speaker 8 (49:03):
Never TRUMPERS like i don't know if maybe some people
just weren't paying attention to politics as Long as. I've
been they were The, never trumpers Anyone But. Donald trump
they ran a front page Cover Of national review Saying,
never trump Anyone But, donald trump all. Of Them ben
shapiro said on issues of because it's a matter, OF

(49:24):
principle i will never Vote For. Donald trump he said
he would hold his nose And Allow hillary clinton to
be an elected president before he sent his at the
time massive audience To Support.

Speaker 7 (49:36):
Donald trump And Now donald trump turns around and Makes
little marco his national. SECURITY advice i remember how he
embarrassed him on and. The, debates yep.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
He called Him.

Speaker 7 (49:46):
Little marco he used to tear, him apart and you
know what he used, To, say man.

Speaker 9 (49:49):
OH dude I hope i'm getting, this right.

Speaker 8 (49:51):
THERE was i believe there's a tweet you could probably
find It Where donald trump said Something Like sheldon adelson
will be able to contra Troll little marco and that's
why you can't let him.

Speaker 7 (50:03):
Be president and that's the guy the. Lady's, husband yeah,
he Died But mariam aidelson is still alive and they're his.
Biggest donors they've given him like hundreds of quarter billions. Of, dollars,
yeah yeah it's it's uh AND that's i don't even,
think that like if you counted. The money and.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
We've talked About Maryel marion. Adelson before she is The biggest,
jewish donor one of The biggest. Jewish owners and her
husband was also A huge. JEWISH donor i think he's,
dead now but, either way, you know this was Something
That donald trump Said To marca rubio or has Said
About mark rubio in, a tweet AND also i think
also on a couple of different interviews where when they

(50:39):
were going against each Other and, trump's, like well you
Can't Have mark rubian because Then the aidolson's will, control
Him aka israel Will Control.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
Mark rubio and we, Know this so you guys can't vote,
For Him we're.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
America, first remember we got to love and Care, about America,
not israel not Influence. From israel and then, and then
and Yet now Adelson Is donald trump's, biggest donor and
yet he is literally Controlled.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
By, ISRAEL well i just.

Speaker 4 (51:07):
Wanted to point out what he was saying too about
when he was running and everyone In the trump zone
was not even Thinking. About VENEZUELA but i think the
Reason why trump was Thinking about venezuela is he does
have a grudge and he holds a grudge from the
twenty twenty elections and he knows that something was crooked
with the voting machines and it had to Do. WITH

(51:29):
venezuela i think that Was another it could be another.
Reason why maybe it was. A grudge and like, He
said trump he is the art of. The deal he
wants to make the most money. He can like They
see gaza as sunsets and drinks. Or whatever he's Looking
at venezuela as a deal in a way To make.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
America, RICH yeah I mean i agree with, You, know
hey let's take the most amount of money we can
from a country it's easy.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
To get let's take all.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Their oil, understand that and even as we talked about
the voting machine thing on our, last podcast we kind
of went into depth about. All that so if you
guys want to go and go in depth about.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
That GAME and i think he's holding a grudge or
he could be holding a grudge and that's why he Went.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
AGAINST venezuela, i mean if someone convinced him of That's what, venezuela's,
Doing MAYBE but i just, you know even as we
kind of went down that rabbit hole on the, LAST
episode i Don't, necessarily yes there are connections for sure
with smartmatic, dominion voting, you know, so ON but i
don't necessarily know that like the entirety of reasoning behind

(52:31):
if the twenty twenty election, was stolen which it seems like.
It was if that, did happen, you know was It,
From venezuela Like did venezuela think?

Speaker 5 (52:40):
THIS up i.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Doubt it and you would have to say, that someone,
some faction some group of People utilize venezuela maybe to
start kind OF their i guess experimentation with stealing, of
elections which is what they Did in venezuela that they
then used and utilized in the twenty twenty election In The,
united states, which somehow through, various processes in some ways

(53:02):
may have changed hands because as, We Know dominion voting
actually bought out technology from a company that was Owned, by,
smartmatic right Or owned Smartmatic because smartmatic closed down AFTER
like i, don't know the sixth election that.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Was stolen, and well.

Speaker 4 (53:19):
It's kind, of like, you know these security companies that
go out and do the dirty work for, our government
they're constantly closing down and just reopening.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
Their, name, yeah, absolutely yeah like the.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Security, CONTRACTORS yeah, i mean as soon as they get a,
bad name they close down and then go to.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Something else but, you know.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
It's interesting you make a good point because if you
kind of follow likely like who the people in charge
or behind the scenes of these companies as they progress throughout,
The years i'm sure there's a lot of the same
players behind, the scenes just different names as the forefront
the public. Facing domain and as, we said even with
the twenty twenty Election And, dominion voting when anyone, said that, you,

(53:57):
Know Hey dominion voting might have had something to do
with a stolen alone and they might have, you know
allowed their computers to be hacked or they had some
type of algorithm.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
That would switch votes and all.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
THIS shit, i mean That's Why fox news got sued
for seven hundred million Dollars Although fox news didn't even
go to court to. Fight it, you know they didn't
even go to court to. Fight it they just gave
them seven hundred. Million dollars They Fired, Tucker carlson they
got rid of anybody that even tried to claim that
the election, was stolen even going back to the to

(54:27):
the Two thousand, mules documentary that team that was a
part of the Two thousand, mules documentary which in MY
opinion i think beyond reasonably or beyond a, reasonable doubt
proved that twenty twenty. Was, stolen well that team that
had worked with multiple presidential administrations over the course of
the past twenty, five, Years bipartisan they worked With the

(54:47):
clinton Administration and. Bush administration what their job was to
do is they looked at all. The data they utilized
all these various systems to help each presidential team, determine what,
you know how many votes, were stolen you, know what
the amount of cheating, and fraud all.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
This stuff and they were always very very.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Well respected until They Helped denesh desuza do the documentary
about two, thousand mules and then it was probably about
seven or eight months after that documentary came out those
people actually were. To, present yeah they went to jail
over some bs and it was like kind of similar
To How, alex jones, you Know When alex jones was
supplying them with the court During The sandy. Hook trial

(55:28):
he was supplying them with all, this information all. This
data the court, said hey we need this and this.
And This alex jones sent it to him and then
eventually the court came, and, said well you're defaulted because
you didn't give. Us this and, he's like we did give,
you this and, he's, like no, you're defaulted so you
automatically default.

Speaker 5 (55:42):
On it now we're.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Gonna now it's just automatic judgment for one point two.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Billion dollars this is what. Courtse do they give you an.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Automatic judgment it doesn't matter how much proof, you have
doesn't matter any of. That shit if, the corrupt if
the court, is corrupt you're screwed and prously we. Know
this it does not matter matter what evidence. You have
it doesn't matter what substantiate and proof that you have
beyond a reasonable doubt that. You're innocent it matters about
who is the power behind, the court who controls, that

(56:10):
court who controls. That judge and it's the same exact
thing With The fox, news thing is the same thing with,
you Know When donald trump went for thirty. Four felonies
the system. Is rigged it is controlled by power, and
money and you don't really understand that until you're a part.
Of IT and i think that's why it's like if
you look at certain people in different communities that once

(56:34):
they enter, the system they hate the system and it's
really hard for them to get out of.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
The system.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
YOU know, i mean that's that is. A fact and,
so anyways we'll continue.

Speaker 7 (56:45):
For his, first run his second run and. The midterms
they're probably close to a billion dollars that.

Speaker 9 (56:51):
They've given look.

Speaker 5 (56:52):
At this feet.

Speaker 7 (56:52):
Right There sheldon edelson is looking to give big Dollars
to rubio because he feels he can mold him into
his perfect.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
Little, PUPPET wow, I.

Speaker 7 (57:00):
Agree okay he agrees. With that just to, be clear
this is and this is just. A fact this is. Twenty,
fifteen nobody nobody has been molded into more of a
puppet For the Adolsins Than donald Trump And donald, trump
NOW which i know you've probably seen a couple.

Speaker 8 (57:17):
Of days it's so crazy. It Olmos and i'm not
saying this is. THE case i don't think this is,
the case but it almost Seems Like donald trump is
like mocking them when he'll talk about how much they
just Care, About israel like he'll openly he goes out
of his way about who then Who's This mariam Aidelson

(57:37):
And sheldon adelson that, he'll go they gave me a lot,
of money and they called me all, the time and
they always, come by and they're always asking, for something
and it's Always. For ISRAEL and i do. IT all
i give it all. To it like he's just openly
telling you that These Look mariam aidelson Is a. Palestinian
theo she was born before the creation Of the State
of israel in what Is. Today ISRAEL am i right?

Speaker 5 (57:59):
About this?

Speaker 8 (57:59):
What year born in nineteen forty Five, in yeah you
Could Say, israeli american but there's no such Thing as
israel in nineteen. Forty five israel wasn't created until nineteen.
Forty eight she was Born. In palestine she was Born In,
Tel Aviv. Mandatory Palestine. Mandatory, Palasin right, so anyway so she's. From,
there now is this a new Term. Mandatory palestine it
was a term at. The time It was it was

(58:20):
a term at the time where they basically like they,
were like we're not doing. Imperialism anymore we're just. Doing
mandates it's mandates where we come in and run the
country and.

Speaker 5 (58:31):
We'll take some of the.

Speaker 9 (58:32):
Resources too but.

Speaker 7 (58:33):
That's just such an, interesting Term. Mandatory, palasin okay so
she was that's where she.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
Was born this.

Speaker 9 (58:39):
She was let me just Say About.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
Jim lance She.

Speaker 7 (58:41):
Was, palestinian yes so now he was Born. In America, but,
Sheldon yeah sheldon was Born. In, america, now no he's
not Black actually.

Speaker 8 (58:50):
Jewish fellow he is on record saying that his biggest
regret in life is that he Wore the american military
uniform and NOT the. Idf uniform so these are like
israel first stars Openly.

Speaker 9 (59:03):
And donald trump says.

Speaker 7 (59:04):
As much, oh yeah well HE just I Mean donald trump,
is death, you know like they just had an announcement
the other day or he was in a he was
at an event where they he said He was israel's.
Best president, they Said you're israel's. Best President mark levin
said he is The first. Jewish president. It's wild by,
The Way mark levin called Me. A nazi he did

(59:24):
yeah two, days ago Oh.

Speaker 8 (59:26):
On, twitter no he got me A neo nazi to,
be fair, that's nice which. Is nice, Well, knew yeah
like he wasn't actually CLAIMING that i was a Member
of hitler's, You Know National Socialist.

Speaker 7 (59:36):
Workers, party yeah, that's impossible first of all for you to,
pull off and second, of All. NEO nazis i don't
think it's it's not even determined what they're going to
do with their whole.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
Plane.

Speaker 7 (59:45):
Yet, yeah no we're still. Working, on yeah you got to.

Speaker 8 (59:49):
Pay out but it is, the, Funny like i'm Literally
all i'm essentially my politics are all just like Uh
like I'm against i'm against wars, And GOVERNMENT like i
just want government to less power and fight, less wars
which is strikingly Similar To. Adolf hitler as, everybody knows
that was what he was known. For too but that's the.

Speaker 7 (01:00:07):
Visual rights that's the biggest, WEAPON though i Mean even
tucker was talking. About this it's the biggest weapon of.

Speaker 5 (01:00:15):
People.

Speaker 7 (01:00:15):
LIKE him i guess to just Call you hitler or
to call you an. Anti semi it's just LIKE it's i,
don't know and it's a weapon that's kind of out
of bullets a lot. Of, times yeah we talked about,
that before about how it's just been used.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
So much what is this part? Right? Here uh and
these people Do like israel, hold on and He loves.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Israel too six.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
YEARS ago i was up HERE and, i said this
is Our first. Jewish president now he's The first jewish
president to serve two.

Speaker 11 (01:00:56):
Not.

Speaker 10 (01:00:57):
Consecutive presidency we thank you, For everything like there's.

Speaker 8 (01:01:03):
Another, one, no well he's saying like that he lost
and then came back in that he served. Two terms
but like you could have just said serve? Two terms
like what was the and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Also the, reason why by the WAY that I want
i want everybody To Many mark levin, of course the
same guy That Called dave smith A.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Neo nazi.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
So there's a reason by the way that they keep
making sure that they Refer to trump as the president
that has served two non. Consecutive terms the reason, FOR
this i don't know if we've, Saw that like, you
know the hats are going around and kind of when
people joke about It That trump trump twenty. Twenty, eight,
yeah okay so the official thing, it, says no you

(01:01:44):
can't technically do that even if it's, non consecutive although
there are, some loopholes, which is, YOU know I know
trump's talked about the stilling of the twenty. Twenty election
you know that that's something that he's, talked about where
that they could potentially repeal the twenty twenty or the Twenty,
second amendment which would then that Would, require congress but
then he could potentially run for a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Third term the other way of this is a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Constitutional crisis, right then and that could, be war it
could be any of, That stuff it could be something
to do with. The constitution then he could potentially run
or be elected into a. Third term given the circumstances
at the, present time there are reasons that he could potentially.
Do THAT but i do find it always very interested
in how they continue to talk about Non Consecutive president

(01:02:29):
trump in. That WAY so i did want to just mention,
that anyway.

Speaker 8 (01:02:32):
He, is like which is very weird to see Done,
to trump but a lot of people would make it
he's kind of like big dog, in him like, he's like,
you know like kind of pulling. Him closer it's all,
very bizarre, but yeah. It's True donald trump is the
Most pro israel President in, american.

Speaker 9 (01:02:48):
History there's no question.

Speaker 8 (01:02:49):
About that but the thing, is that like what's omitted
there is that actually all the other presidents Were pro.
Israel too they would just.

Speaker 7 (01:02:57):
Have some demands on his like they would just, go,
like hey could you just stop doing this right because
this is a huge problem? For us And then israel
wouldn't stop, doing that and then they would get annoyed,
at them and then so like then there's lots of examples,
Like this Like BOTH.

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
GEORGE.

Speaker 8 (01:03:12):
H w Bush And barack obama made a big thing
out of asking him to stop building settlements On The.
West bank could you just not do that because you're
expanding these settlements causing all. These problems the, whole international,
you know community is outraged.

Speaker 9 (01:03:25):
By it and then they just.

Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
Wouldn't.

Speaker 9 (01:03:26):
Stop yeah that's.

Speaker 7 (01:03:27):
One of the things that caused a lot of riffs
over the, years too was just the taking Over of,
palestinians homes like people walking in and it. Was known
it's not a. Debated thing oh it's. On, video yeah
there's tons of video. Of it so it was just
but it was walking in and Taking Over native, palestinians
homes just taking them over and kicking. Them OUT and
i think after thirty years, of that it just became

(01:03:47):
too much. For, people, mean yeah, so well the ONE
poll i saw was, they say it Was before, october seventh,
they said who do you sympathize with More the israelis Are,
The palestinians and it was plus forty eight Percent, pro
israel and then taken like a couple, months ago it
was plus one For.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
The palestinians so it is a fifty, point.

Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
Collapse right, so anyway we had Speculated because israel's in
this situation where everybody's turning on them because they just
committed a genocide IN four k and forced us to
fund it and we're all appalled. By that but at the,
same time they have the Most pro israel president in,
right now so they could look at the writing on
the wall, and go this is the best opportunity we have,

(01:04:29):
right now and then a lot of US and i
said This on rogan LAST time i, WAS there, i
go they might move to Annex The, west bank like
to formally just take the, whole thing because now is
their best opportunity to. Do, It now trump came out,
and said kind. Of unprompted it was In a, politico article,
he said someone asked him about that and said what and, he,
GOES no i will Not let israel Annex The. West

(01:04:49):
bank and so, they, go well what are you going
to do if they did Annex The? West bank and
he actually said they would lose Support from america if
they Annexed The.

Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
West bank and then and, we say Annix The west
bank is take it, over completely just take it over
and claim it as Part, of israel which by, the
way they've in effect, already done but they haven't formally.

Speaker 8 (01:05:05):
Done, It okay so now this so this is the.
Political piece so then cut to a. Month Later jd
vance Is in israel And the kanesset holds a vote
over Annexing The west bank and. It passes, they intentionally
now this was like kind of a symbolic vote, or
whatever But They, donald trump who's been the Most pro, israel,

(01:05:28):
President goes i'll fund, Your genocide i'll arm. Your genocide
i'll bomb a round. For you i'll shoot Down the
iranian missiles coming Back. At israel, in response will will
bomb the huthis, For, you well you bomb the the
negotiators of A deal i'm trying, to Make and i'll
still work. With you still. Get funding, one request just

(01:05:51):
don't Annex The west bank and, they, Go.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
Yeah and israel does not give a damn About what.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Trump says and that's the interesting thing is like Even,
when trump, you know talked about, you know he supposedly
negotiated the, peace talks and we had a video On
our instagram where it, was like two, Days later Israel's bombing,
gaza again and so someone asked him. About it, he's
like they don't know what the fuck.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
They're, Doing yeah and everybody made all those crazy viral videos.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
About, it yeah and he had songs about it and all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
This Stuff because israel doesn't give a damn About What
donald trump says Or The. United states they, never, have right,
they're like. Well whatever and as he's, saying here LIKE.
When jd evans Was, in israel they literally held a
vote on to Annex The west Bank while jdvans was,
over there Knowing what trump's already said, about it and
it passed unanimously and it was almost like a spit in,
your face like we don't give a shit about What

(01:06:40):
The united. States says for those who don't know What
The west, bank, is Well The united states does Not
want israel to take Over The west bank because they
think that it IS a us, strategic interest international, law
position and. Regional Stability The west bank is considered occupied
territory under, international law Captured by israel in nineteen. Sixty
SEVEN the us is long held that permanent annexation of

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occupied land bilas international. Law endorsement annexation WOULD undermine us,
credibility globally and IF the us Openly allowed israel to
Annex The, west bank it Would weaken american's ability To
oppose Russian, In ukraine China and taiwan and other territorial. Expansions,
worldwide so in, simple TERMS the us would be breaking its,
own rules and rivals would immediately use that Against The,

(01:07:23):
united states such as interesting such as Such as Russia,
in ukraine they would just Take over Ukraine and China.

Speaker 4 (01:07:30):
In taiwan but it doesn't make sense when you look
at the Map, of Israel The west bank is right
there in the north Part of israel is Surrounded. By,
israel yeah so it's kind of weird that there's this
Section in israel that doesn't Belong.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
To, israel well it's not just.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
A section, i mean You have gaza and then you
have The, west bank which Is not gaza is, a
strip but The west bank is a pretty. Large section
actually That's, not israel that is The, WEST bank.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
I know but it's Surrounded by israel like it's in.
A country it's like a country within. A country, kind well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Either Way what i'm saying, is, though too is that
we have we also have to Understand The west bank
actually has quite A few christians In The, west bank.
You know So The united states has always protected, that
area not just for, that reason but, FOR decades us
policy was built around basically negotiating a two state Solution
between israel And. The palestinians and this is where some
of this. Comes from so that framework comes largely From The,

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oslo accords which Divided The west bank into administrative zones
and delayed. Final borders So if israel annex is, that
Territory a palestinian state, becomes impossible the peace framework collapses
permanently AND the us loses its main diplomatic leverage in.
The region And so arab allies and. Regional STABILITY the
us relies on corporation Cooperation from Arab and muslim majority

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countries for, military basin, counter terrorism, all markets And, containing
iran and so formal annexation Of The west bank WOULD
force us allies to publicly Break, with washington trigger Unrest, Across,
jordan egypt And, the gulf and Risk, destabilizing jordan which
has A large. Palestinian population so then that would further
basically destroy or kick Out. The palestinians and if we

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look at the situation and we look At how israel Responded,
to gaza where they it was a genocide essentially where
they wanted to it seems like kill as many civilians.
As possible when you Annex The, west bank you're just
going to be killing Even. More palestinians and as this,
also says it makes a two state solution, almost impossible

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which we're already seeing on. Mainstream media they don't want
a two. State solution israel wants to Completely control gaza
And The. West bank they Don't want palestinians. There whatsoever
they want to control. That LAND and i go back
to the point Of like iran might, be Next will
iran be the next big Target.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
FOR israel i think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
IT is i think we're already kind of setting up,
for that but, We'll see.

Speaker 8 (01:09:51):
Oh nope and we're going to intentionally vote that way
while your vice president, is here just to let you
know that you get we run this shit and. You
don't and that for all, the billions for all the
billions you, give us we're still. In charge it's just. Too,
crazy man. Fucking gangster it. Is gangster you gotta. ADMIT back,

(01:10:11):
i mean, oh dude you.

Speaker 7 (01:10:12):
Have to also there's like a gangster part of you, that's,
like fuck these motherfuckers are not.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
Playing dude, oh.

Speaker 9 (01:10:19):
Yeah, yeah no no question, about. It man and that's all.

Speaker 8 (01:10:21):
It is that's all any government is at the highest
level is, gangster shit and that they are really really good.

Speaker 11 (01:10:28):
At.

Speaker 5 (01:10:28):
It, yeah yeah it's. Pretty fascinating.

Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
Let's talk, about like so it's been a Year since
trump's Been in you said some of his bases kind.
Of split now it does feel a little bit like there's,
like this how do you Feel like trump's done in his?

Speaker 5 (01:10:42):
First year like what are things mean?

Speaker 7 (01:10:44):
On, YOU like i think he's been TERRIBLE and i
assumed he probably would be, a DISAPPOINTMENT and i supported
him last year JUST because, i thought like all things,
being considered it was better for our country that he
Win Than kamala. Harris win and Also the democrats just
so deserved to lose.

Speaker 5 (01:11:00):
Like that you just can't.

Speaker 7 (01:11:01):
Reward, That, WELL kamalia i just saw them on a
senile president and they all pretended.

Speaker 5 (01:11:06):
We didn't it's just. TOO crazy i was. Too crazy, they,
ALSO like.

Speaker 8 (01:11:09):
I mean, THEY'RE look, i mean their their POLICY, on
covid their Policy, on ukraine and then, don't forget they
were a full year into back in the genocide when,
it happened so, they were, you know they they deserve.
To Lose donald trump has done a really good job
in securing. The border, you know we had a really
open Border Under. Joe biden we have a secure. Border

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now aside, from that it's just. BEEN disastrous I mean
i just couldn't and not even, just disastrous like the policy,
was wrong but just the way they. HANDLED it, i
mean the handling Of the ebstein scandal is got to
that goes down in history as like the worst handling
of A scandal i've, ever seen literally from all these

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guys running on we're gonna release. This Stuff pam bondi
having that thing where she gave the influencers the binders
so that there was nothing in them that, was new
and then they pivoted on a dime to there's no.
SUCH thing i don't even know what you're.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Talking.

Speaker 9 (01:12:07):
About it you're crazy to think there was a thing to.
Be released, it was.

Speaker 7 (01:12:10):
And then to, turn around and then they turn Around
And mike, johnson said it will end the political order
if we Vote For thomas Massey in Rokahanna And Marjorie
taylor green's bill to release. The files and then they
turn around and get pressured into voting, for it and
now they're just, redacting everything and like IT'S just i
mean just he lost so much credibility. On, that OBVIOUSLY

(01:12:31):
the i think bombing around. Was terrible that's, so look,
so yeah break up some of those pictures that they just. Released,
too well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
And we'll pause here because you know they go on
for three hours in. This episode and, You Know dave
smith was someone that was Vouching, for trump and, he's,
like look we got To get. TRUMP in i think
EVERYBODY was i think literally everybody was going into twenty.
Twenty four, YOU know i think there's a Reason Why
donald trump. WON unanimously, i mean he won all the.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
SWING states i Disagree With dave smith as far as
has been terrible what he's done as a president of the.
FIRST year i think he's done way more than just
close the borders To.

Speaker 2 (01:13:14):
Help, america well this is where, WE'LL disagree, i guess because,
you know, to me like, we were at least in,
MY opinion I think i was heavily and. So, FAR anyway,
i mean we're over a year into his, presidency NOW
and i am, highly DISAPPOINTED and i think that, you

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know you can't you can't not look at the Way
the trump administration Handled the epstein files and just be okay.

Speaker 9 (01:13:42):
With that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
YOU know i was literally in a debate the other
night on our telegram with someone, about this and, they're,
like look you've got to just take what, you're given,
you know and just. Forget, it basically like who cares about,
You know it's almost like who cares About the?

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Epstein thing just?

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
Move on.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
You know, You know trump's doing this and he might
get gas, prices down and even though as prices are,
going down but, like that that's, you Know still americans
are struggling. To survive it's not Like because trump's. Been,
In yes he's only been in, a YEAR so i
understand it, takes time especially after the last administration that
was almost intentionally trying to destroy our economy in. Our

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country but at the, SAME time i think a lot
of people were looking at the administration right now and, they're,
SAYING well i thought We were. AMERICA first i thought
we were Gonna make america. Great again And now trump's
making all, these Things make venezuela. Great again he just
said on, the News make israel. Great again let's make
sure that we just continue to give all these billions.

Speaker 3 (01:14:37):
Of dollars we thought That the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Ukraine situation, You know Trump said we're going to stop
all these wars on The, day yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
Also said that he thought it was going to be
the easiest war, to end and it's been the hardest
war to, end.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Well and part of that is probably because some of
his shit talking going, into it And obviously putin's, over there,
like okay well we'll see. About that, but also, you
know how are you going to Negotiate? With putin but,
yet you as a as a new president, coming in
are still sending billions of Dollars. To ukraine you're still.
Doing this you're also sending long, Range missiles you're still
supporting the War. In ukraine because the Reason why trump's

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still doing that is because the same People That dave
smith was, talking about all, These Warhawks, Ted Cruz, Lindsey Graham,
mark levin all these people that, love war those are
all the people that are Closest. To trump those are
the ones That's calling trump But first jewish president and all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
The shit these are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
The people these are the people that Have the, Ukraine
bios ukraine flags in. Their bios these are the people
that Wear little, israel pins, you know And in. Ukraine
pins it Wasn't just democrats.

Speaker 3 (01:15:38):
Doing that It.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Is republicans it's basically whoever is supported and propped up
by the military. Industrial complex these are the People that
trump is heavily. Surrounded around and so when we all thought, that,
like well we're not going to Be giving ukraine money, no, more.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Nope no well we.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Still are and you know the excuse for, that, is
well we're getting, tariffs now so you know we Can
give ukraine money and can, you know as long as
we keep the military industrial, Complex happy we're going to
continue to send billions of Dollars, to israel and we're
going to completely Fumble the. Epstein thing it's not even.
Fumble it it was like, an intentional complete. Psychopathic response

(01:16:16):
and AND and i THINK what i think the Day
that trump's base was heavily divided was when he looked
at the camera when they had their little.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Cabinet meeting and they were trying to light.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
Everybody in the room.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
That, day Yeah and trump, was, like look, you know
if you question us and if you're not one of
our if you're not if you question Us about epstein
files and you think we're lying about them, or whatever
and you you want to continue to talk about, this
shit you're.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
Not maga we don't. Need you get the hell out of.

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
Our partner and this is a. Total, hoax yes that's what.
He said It's a.

Speaker 12 (01:16:46):
Democrat hoax, so, basically everybody everybody that he got on
board that allowed him to win the swing states that
allowed him to win and the fashion needed in twenty,
TWENTY four i would say probably every one of those
new voters that he brought in FROM The rfk party From,
the democrats.

Speaker 5 (01:17:02):
They're gone, they're gone.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
They're done and so THAT'S what i, Was finding LIKE
when i was debating this person the, other NIGHT and i, was,
like well if you want to sit here and act,
Like that israel is not important. To debate if you
want to act Like the epstein files and the way
they've handled it is not important to. The debate but
yet You want republicans to win in twenty six and,
twenty eight then you're you're really far off Base because

(01:17:24):
i'm telling you those, two Things the israel things the
matter to a lot, of people And the epstein files
are going To destroy republicans in twenty six and. Twenty
eight i'm talking about landslide Victories for democrats no matter who.
They run All the republicans had to do was get,
into office do what, They, said hey we're going to
Release the. Epstein files here you. Go disclosure even though people, were,

(01:17:48):
like look who gives a shit about the? Alien files
at least give us the shit that, really, matters like,
you know the kids that are being trafficked to elites, and,
politicians like at least let, us know or just show
some accountability, for this or like let's arrest, some people,
you know like let's actually hold people accountable. For shit
and if you're not even doing it against the people
that went, after you which.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
IS weird a lot of people, are like why is.

Speaker 5 (01:18:10):
He not even going after people that went after him
that was about to put him.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
In, prison well he said at one time he would
not Even Lock killery clinton up if he were the
president and it was.

Speaker 5 (01:18:19):
His choice he said that after he got.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
An office but, before that the whole big meme was lock,
her up lock. Her up it was, All lie it's.
All facade it's almost like a game that we are
that we are being. PLAYED into, i mean that's what
it really, seems like because then once he becomes, a president.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
EVERYTHING changes i think He's funding ukraine Still because putin
wouldn't come.

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
To his terms and when not let him make, a
deal and it pissed.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Him, off well well, NUMBER one, I mean i'm pretty
sure that we Were funding, UKRAINE still, i know Even
before trump ever even talked.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
To HIM and, i think, of Course but i'm JUST
saying i Think that putin Really pissed, trump Off and,
trump's like you know what? Grew you if you don't
want to make, a Deal then i'm going to fund
the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Against YOU but i think part of, the PROBLEM and
i think this is just.

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
MY opinion i think.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Part of the problem that we run into, As people
american citizens is that we still think that our president
is actually, in control and.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
He's not but he's in a lot more control than
most presidents. Have been and you, would think you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Would, think MAYBE but i don't. THINK so i think they're.
USING him i think they're using him to get what,
they want based on, his personality based on all, that
stuff and then if it, goes wrong they're going To,
blame trump but they're going to, use him Just like
israel is going to this next, three years whatever happens
In The middle East with israel and what they decide
to do In The, united states it's going to.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
Be crazy i'm just, TELLING you.

Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
I get what. You're saying that is the same vulture
with two. Different, wings yeah but exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
IT is, i MEAN and i don't think it matters
really HUGE per i don't care If it's Biden the
Senile or trump that isn't AS SiNW i think it
doesn't matter because the people behind the scenes that are
actually controlling, the party Controlling The, white house and pulling.
The strings it doesn't make a shit who you Have
in there are people that can, affect change and there
are presidents that can go against the people that are really.

(01:20:12):
Controlling him but those presidents end, up, ASSASSINATED right i
mean the true presidents that really want the best for,
their people For the, american people and they go against the,
Lobbying groups they go against foreign nations that have influence in,
The country they go against terroristic and deep state plans
to do all this crazy shit for military industrial. Complex
benefits those presidents get ASSASSINATED aka jfk aka other presidents

(01:20:37):
that have also towed the line or win a little.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
Bit astray and you.

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
Don't think they tried To.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Assassinate, trump yeah and when it, didn't happen then they
had to control him and they. Knew THAT and i
also think they probably used the assassination Attempt for trump's
life for their benefit, to say, next time we're not
going to miss so you don't get in line with,
our shit then we will. Kill YOU and I think trump.
KNOWS that I think trump understands the power of foreign nations.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
That are involved in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:06):
OUR country i think he understands that likely, you know
if we, talk about, for example like the fact that
there are So many chinese spies In The, united states
we continually are looking for them all. The TIME but
i can't even imagine How many israeli spies or In
The united states that know every single thing that's happening
In That white house on every. Single second and, you

(01:21:29):
know you go back to ALL the cia officers, that
say every Single time Masad or israel has ever came
To The white House or bugget, or yeah or To,
the pentagon we always find wire tapping or this. Or
that and that's only what, they, Find right there's there's
been many times that they have found tapping devices IN the.
Cia headquarters they've found all this shit and it usually

(01:21:51):
always Comes. From masad so the reality of this is,
is like why would you do that to your? Greatest
ally you do it. For control you do it because
you have the capabilities to put in. These devices so
where therefore you know what the strategic plans are of
your quote, unquote ally but you just use it for,
black mail, you Know. Like epstein why would a foreign

(01:22:14):
nation use a Person like epstein TO control? Us politicians
is that more likely or is it the fact that
there are some DEEP like cia type operation that they
want to control. Our president it seems more likely that
there is a foreign nation that wants to control our politicians, than,
inside right because there's a lot of ways you can.
Do that So what i'm saying IS that i, don't know,

(01:22:36):
you know as Far as, trump goes there's still a
lot to. Be seen, YOU know i think a lot
of people right now, THEY are i. Guess disappointed they're
disappointed because they thought a lot of things that were
going to happen are.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Not happening and then you, you know you'll.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
Talk to some people that are still one hundred percent
all the way There. With trump they're not ever going to,
criticize him and you'll talk to them, and, say well
he closed, a border and, you know he he's doing
tariffs and we did just Take over venezuela and you
know all. This stuff, but like what is it that?
Really matters like do? We matter does it matter about truth?
And transparency does it matter about like? Our Government when

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trump said that we were going to go and drain,
the swamp what is? The swamp is the swamp not
what we thought?

Speaker 10 (01:23:17):
It?

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Was now is the swamp even? Exists anymore is it
not really About make america? GREAT again i THINK what
i think part Of making america great again is just
showing your people that they can. Trust you and how
you show, them that especially is with something Like the,
epstein files when it has been one of the biggest
conspiracies ever to pass ten years and especially coming OFF

(01:23:37):
of covid nineteen and coming off of all this shit
where we didn't trust the government, At all like we
have the lowest trust in government probably in the history
Of The united States. Of america and yet you come
in as president and you you Have The, epstein files,
right it you're right in front.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Of you whether you do, or don't you got to
be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
About it if you don't have, the vials if, you
don't whatever, it, is like be honest about it, and,
say look we think someone has destroyed. The files we
think that someone that we don't know who, it is
is controlling.

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
THE files i. Don't know and we're not talking, Just
files we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
Actual, videotapes yeah and obviously they're not going to release
videotapes of like kids being molested or, you, know raped
but the very least like they could start prosecuting people
that these, you know kids were being sent to to
be raped. Like that those are the people that need
to be, in prison but they care more about. You
know that's one of the things they said the. Other day, it's,
Like well maduro and and and that and that country

(01:24:34):
is they're they're. Very corrupt they're they're, very corrupt and
they have blackmail going on in this country and all,
this Stuff and china's using them for.

Speaker 3 (01:24:42):
Black mail. You know it's one of.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
The things nathan sent me a text the other, DAY
says i wonder what list of blackmail people were going
to freaking See first venezuela or our own Black. Mail
EPSTEIN and i, was, like yeah that's a. Good point,
so Guys all i'm saying is is That this trump
administration is a weird a. Weird one it is STRANGE

(01:25:04):
because i, think that, YOU know i think so many
people voted. For him i'm not saying that he's the
worst president of. The world i'm just SAYING that i
think that he is not in control as much as
we would like to think, He, Is OKAY and i
hope something gets done about THAT because i, DON'T know,
i mean If the republicans want to win in twenty
six and. Twenty eight things have got, to change and

(01:25:26):
they got to change. Pretty fast we, need transparency we.
Need truth they still have a chance With the. Epstein
files is it going? To happen we.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Likely not we're probably never actually going to see. The
truth no one will likely ever be brought to justice
In the, epstein files although we know, for sure we
know without a doubt that these young children were being
trafficked to elites and politicians and world leaders and very.
Significant people we know that. For sure so if none

(01:25:56):
of them, get prosecuted then obviously this administration is protecting
and not just, this administration the other administrations. As well
it's protecting the elites and the politicians and the. Higher
ups or as they've, also said this is a matter of.
National security we can't. Release everything why is it? National
security is it because you're Working? With masad is that
because it was an? Intelligence operation why you just, say,

(01:26:19):
it like just say that This whole epstein thing was an.
Intelligence op well they can't, say that because then how
fed up would that be that intelligence operations From either
israel Or The united states is literally sending children to
get raped, by politicians to get black. Melonum like so
they're never going to, say that but if they did tell,
the truth what would likely come out of their mouth would, be, like,

(01:26:40):
hey guys just got to let, you know we did
have an. Intelligence operation it WAS, mostly massad but, YOU
know cia. Was involved we did actually go and kidnap
children around the world and then send them Down to
epstein and then have politicians and elites. Rape them we, videoed,
it photographed it did all. That stuff, but anyways here's.
The files, you know are you ever going to? See,

(01:27:01):
that no but if they told, the truth that's likely
what they.

Speaker 4 (01:27:03):
Would, happen well and that's the same thing that happened With,
P DIDDY and i think that's why he got off
with what he got, off with, like, nothing, YEAH yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
I mean he's what. SIX months i think he's got
to serve for all this trafficking. AND stuff i think
he was just. Another asset he was, another asset but
he was an asset in the music industry that was
kind of. Connected there so they wanted To do they
wanted to be able to. Control musicians same Thing With.
Harvey weinstein probably some others.

Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
That have Died.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
IN hollywood, i mean there's actually been quite a few directors,
and producers huge producers and directors that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
Have Died rob, REINER.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Actually, I know i'll just get ready to say. HIS
name i want one. Of them.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
You know obviously his son was supposedly the one that.
Murdered him, but yeah is there anything.

Speaker 5 (01:27:42):
TO that i.

Speaker 2 (01:27:43):
Don't, KNOW well i, mean know He, hated trump And
then trump, came out, you know after his death and, was,
like yeah, you know he's basically a piece.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Of shit, You know i'm sorry. He died sorry, he died,
you know. PIECE shit i don't know what else.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Tell You, he's So what i'm saying is like the
amount of the amount of control and power and corruption
that we have in everything that we encounter on a,
regular basis whether, it's, movies, television, media everything everything is
controlled by someone and not everything and, not everybody but

(01:28:17):
a lot. Of it, you know with, the movies, the
music you, listen to, the politicians the mainstream, media outlets
everything is being controlled. By someone and that's the shitty part.
About it but the reality too is like you do
have podcasts still out there that are, not paid that
are not influenced or controlled by a foreign NATION or

(01:28:37):
Apac Or Republican, national convention Or a. Democrat nationally there's
a lot of influencers right now that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Are paid by these.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Different factions and it's pretty obvious actually to see who these.
PEOPLE are, i mean you can just go and look at,
Their timelines go and look at like go look where
they had thirty thousand followers that then they had five hundred,
thousand followers and then all of, a, sudden now all of,
a sudden they're Talking about israel all, the time or
they're Talking about trump all the time and debunking Anything.

(01:29:07):
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biden well and it's the.

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Israel thing people were saying they were getting seventy five
hundred dollars, A.

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Post well they. Still are it's Like, pro, ISRAEL.

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probably going to do a separate episode on. This Soon
but israel wants to basically take Away The United States,
first amendment and they've talked about how they need to control.
Social media they have to control all of, social media
they've going on mainstream media and saying this. Right now

(01:29:39):
so when you see people posting all this craziness and
it's just a, constant thing don't. Be surprised it's just
something that they're getting. Paid for and you can't you
can't hate somebody. For work, and okay they got to
make money.

Speaker 5 (01:29:51):
As well.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Be gus that's going to be it for. This episode
we got a lot of stuff to. Talk ABOUT like,
i said we're going to have an episode coming up,
very soon very very soon this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Week, time guys we.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
Love you, he's out peace.

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Out guys.

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Door a.

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Speaker 11 (01:30:29):
And now.

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first just.

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Hear me it is Not that god, at dude just yet.

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Job even if the answer in my favorite just name.
For time so if you wait just a little, BIT
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Those stuffs, so snap.

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Speaker 13 (01:31:42):
Truxtu said you mean me tomorrow stop.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
And then you ask me but.

Speaker 11 (01:32:12):
Come along.

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But you just can't seem to leave.

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In tho.

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But everyone says done it's a facis.

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