Tucker Carlson vs Nick Fuentes | The Conservative Cage Match Breakdown

Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson have gone from being on the same side of the political spectrum to throwing public punches at each other, and it’s been wild to watch. It started with a Candace Owens interview that Fuentes called a setup, and it’s spiraled into accusations of being a government informant, personal insults, and digging up old dirt. In this episode, we break down how this feud started, what’s been said on both sides, and what it means for the bigger picture in right-wing politics. If you want, I can also give you a shorter, punchier version that’s built for Spotify and Apple Podcasts so it grabs listeners fast.

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In Hello and welcome to Investigator of podcast.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
I'm your host Shout alongside my beautiful wife Sherry. On
tonight's episode, we're going to go over a conversation that's
happened over the past couple of weeks, we've seen one
of the stranger public fights of the right. It started
when Candoen sat down when Nick fe says for an
interview that one has quickly claimed was a setup or
a hit piece meant to make him look bad.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Then Zucker cross And jumped into the mix.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
Not only did he suggest that one says might be
a government informant or a FED, but he also threw
in a pretty personal job, calling Nick Finn's has an
angry gay kid.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
One Ses didn't take that lightly.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
He fired back at Cusan Tucker of Lyne about his
own past, even bringing up old interviews where Tucker talked
about his dad's CIA ties. What's crazy about all this
is that it's not just a political disagreement. It's turned
into a full on personality clash, with each side digging
up dirt and throwing it out there in the open,
and the whole thing is playing out right in front
of us like reality TV for political junkies. Guys, welcome

(01:16):
to the show. It is August tenth, twenty twenty five.
The name of this song is super Nova by Hallman,
And we had to do this episode because this has
been a pretty big conversational piece for a lot of
people on especially the right.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
But obviously the left is going to use this.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
They're going to plaster it everywhere, and it seems like
there has been a lot of infighting, especially after the
Epstein file saga, where Trump has went back and forth
about four or five times whether they have the files,
is it a hoax?

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Is it not a hoax? Are we going to release
the files?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
They then sent obviously their deputy ag to go meet
with Jizling Maxwell or Gisling Maxwell. They even put her
up actually in a hotel during this time, so she
was transferred out of prison put in a hotel. They
went and met with her, and this was ahead of
when Congress was wanting to actually interview her in front
of Congress. Now to the Nick Funts and Tucker Crosson thing.

(02:08):
I have obviously had issues with Nick Funts, in the past,
you know, especially leading up to the twenty twenty four election.
Nick Funtas in his history was that in around twenty sixteen,
the first Trump election, Nick Funtz was a big Trump supporter.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
He was Maga.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
He kind of got on the bandwagon of Maga and
Trump and the whole nine. And so, according to Nick Funtas,
it wasn't actually until he started questioning things about Israel
or Apak about why does Israel have so much influence
in United States politics in general? And so it wasn't
long after that that Fuintes got banned on basically all

(02:46):
social media.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
He got debanked.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
He was not able to have a bank account in
any way, shape or form, which literally should be just
one of our constitutional rights as citizens is to be
able to have a bank account, not based on what
your political views are are, not based on what your
freedom of speech says that you can say. But unfortunately
we've seen that in many cases. We saw it with
Alex Jones, We've saw it with Nick Fontes. We literally

(03:11):
saw it with Donald Trump himself. There were two major
banks that Trump had a lot of money in that
they also debanked him. They took out his ability to
be able to actually have bank accounts in two of
some of the most major banks in the United States
of America and is interested in Obviously, they have replatformed
Donald Trump on those banking systems, but Trump kind of

(03:33):
went through similar things. Trump was also banned on all
social media while he was a sitting president of the
United States. And it's always been interesting to me, is
because like, now that Trump is back in office, it's
his last term. You know, you have all of these
tech giants, all of these tech billionaires that are from
Silicon Valley or wherever that are now coming to Trump's

(03:54):
aid and they're like, hey, we want to help you
anyway we can. We want to invest millions or billions
of dollars into your administration, and we want you to
help us. And we're not going to be censorship, you know, authoritarians.
You know, we've heard all of this before, but it
also seems like now and there's people that are speculating,
is this fight between Nick Fintes and Tucker Carlson or

(04:15):
even just the whole saga of the Epstein files and
how Trump and Pam Bondi and Cash Betel react to this.
Is this something that is coordinated from the left. You know,
is this something that they have a mole inside of
the White House where they're trying to just completely disrupt
the momentum from the right that obviously we saw during
the twenty twenty four election where you had Trump taken

(04:36):
all the swing states, you had you know, him being
essentially voted as one of the most voted for presidents
in history, although they try to say that about Joe
Biden himself. And so tonight we're going to talk about
Nick Fintes. We're going to talk about this interview between uh,
it was actually Tucker Crosson and Candas Owens. Candis Owens

(04:57):
came on Tucker Cralston's podcast. This was about a week
or two after Candace had Nick Fuintes on her podcast.
And so typically, Sherry, you kind of see all these people,
which you know for forever has got along. You know,
these people are on the right predominantly. Obviously, Candace Owens
is Nick Quintes predominantly is you know, most people call

(05:19):
Nick Fuintz a white supremacist and all this stuff. But
then you also have Tucker Crosson. Obviously he has always
mostly been on the right. I mean, he did used
to work for CNN, and then he obviously worked for
Fox News. He had one of the biggest shows on
Fox News, Tucker Crosston Tonight, and now he is on
his own.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
So that is.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Where we're at in this saga. And obviously, Scherry, we've
talked a lot about Nick Fuintez. I didn't used to
agree with a lot of stuff that he said or
did or talked about. I think one of my biggest
things always was is that when you talk about Israel,
or you talk about Israel's response to October seventh or whatever,
it was like Nick just wanted to blame all Jews
on that instead of just the government of Israel.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Well, I think that you's started disliking Nick during the
election process when Trump was going against terroris as a
matter of fact, and he was supposed to be like
this big maga guy, and he had all these Mega
fans that were listening to him and he was influencing him,
and they were saying and he was basically saying, don't
vote for Trump. And these are the reasons why it

(06:20):
wasn't really that much to me about Israel, but it
was more about him going against Mega and going against Trump.
Is when you started not liking him to the fact
where you would go to his inbox and have arguments
with him over the fact that he was trying to
put people against Mega when he's supposedly this Mega guy,

(06:41):
and you thought at the time maybe he was like
set in place to do this to try to get
people away from Maga.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Mega fed right now.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Absolutely, And so to that point though, you know, as
as we are going to hear kind of the back
and forth, whether it is with Tucker and Candace where
this all kind of sparked from, really it actually sparked
from the Nick finn Test and can of Owen's interview.
But yeah, we're going to kind of put all on
perspective because Shure, you're right, I felt like even at
that time, and I literally told Nick finntes on some

(07:11):
of his post on X and literally the only reason
that Nick Fuinn test got a platform again was because
Elon Muska bought X for forty five billion dollars and
it gave Nick another opportunity to bring the people back
that he once had because, as I said, he was
banned on pretty much everything, and so when he started

(07:31):
to have this platform back leading up to twenty twenty four,
there were things that Nick were trying.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
He was trying to convince his base not to vote
for Trump.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Right, And so that was where I started having a
problem because because now you have Tucker Carlson saying I
think Nick one test is a FED, and you know
when I hear it now and I and by the way,
I think in this argument between Tucker and Nick fuinntest,
it's really hard to completely take a us, which we're
going to. I'm going to take a side after we

(08:02):
hear everything tonight. But is Nick quint as a fed?
Is he a political motivator based on a government position?
So is someone funding Nickquintez because I actually thought that
leading up to twenty twenty four.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
Well, and what's crazy is I know everyone knows that
my brother is Jewish, and I talked to my brother
on a regular basis, and when Tucker Carlson was still
with Fox News towards the end of his time there,
I would talk to my brother and my brother is like,
he is an anti Semite. My brother was calling him
out as one talking about Tucker Carlson, and I was

(08:39):
like why, I don't get it, Like why do you
think that? And I guess it was because he was
kind of going against Israel, and anybody that goes against
Israel must be anti Semite.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Which is wrong.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
But here we go. We got two guys that kind
of have the same views calling each other out, but
they both don't like Israel.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, well it's not even that.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
Yeah, I mean, you're right, I mean who is more
who is more likely an anti Semit, like in the
actual definition of the term, obviously Nick Fuinn does. I mean,
I don't think that Tucker Carlson comes close to an
anti semit when you think about it on a scale,
you know, you have Nick Fuinn does here, He's way
up here as far as anti semi goes or closer

(09:19):
to that thing, and then you have Tucker Carlson. But
you also have to remember that anyone that disagreed with
Israel after October seventh on what their response was and
how they were handling it and kind of just the
power and control structure. And then also the problem with
October seventh for Israel was is that people started to
do investigatory work to where they were like, all right,

(09:40):
so why and how did this happen? Let's evaluate it.
Let's see what's going on, and then there were a
lot of people that started calling out Apak right, and
Apak is a huge, huge funder of our politicians in America.
This was something that we've talked about before that JFK
wanted Israel to be they had to register as a
foreign agent or a foreign nation foreign government influence on

(10:01):
politics in the United States or not just on politics,
but if you are coming to America or you have
any influence in American politics and you are funding in
any way, shape or form, you should have to register
for that. And then they basically control that to a degree.
That's like you're not allowed to influence our politics and
that's why you have to register for that. Israel has
never had to register as that. They've actually had one

(10:23):
of the biggest lobbying groups as a pack of any
nation or foreign nation anywhere. And so although Tucker Crosson
has always kind of talked about that and not really heavily,
I don't think Tucker Crosson has went out there.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
To nearly the degree that a lot of you are.
And Nick funtas is.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
But Nick Flunt has a lot of people think that
he is an anti Semow because he blames everything on Jews,
not necessarily Israel.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
This Jews, and Tucker goes more about Israel the government.
But let me ask you, why does Tucker call him
a gay boy in his mama's basement Because I don't
even get that. I don't even think he's gay.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
No, and he's not in his mama's spaceman either.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
Yeah, I mean Nick fuetas regardless of whether he was
debanked or not, you know, you know, it's the fact
is like he's made money over his career.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Now where that money is about how he traced him.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
He was like eighteen when he started, well, he was
on a track, right, yeah, and he went to college
and he was on the right side of politics during college.
And when he started investigating Israel is when he said
he kind of switched sides.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Almost No, not even switched sides.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
He just he started to realize things that when he
started asking questions about a certain group or apac or whatever,
then that's when he started to be debanked. He started
to get completely censored and banned on all social media platforms,
and so then this pissed him off. I think even more.
You know, when you think when you start asking questions

(11:47):
about a certain thing, and then that certain thing that
you're asking questions about completely destroys you, because that's what
it looks like, obviously, if you're the one asking questions
and you're kind of starting to be vocal about it
because you're not necessarily getting the right end answers. And
then about a month or two later, that thing that
you're asking questions about is still there, but then you
start being destroyed in your livelihood. Obviously, in my mind,

(12:11):
I would think, well, that has to be the reason
why I am being censored and banned and debanked and
all of this stuff. And there's not a lot of
powerful sources in the world that can debank people, right,
There's not a lot.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
So why did he call him a gay boy?

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Well, I don't know about the gay thing. I don't
think that Nick fun Has is gay. I don't think.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
I don't know, even talked about, like it's really hard
to even find a girlfriend because of his status in
the way people portray him out in public or on
social media. So I don't think he's necessarily gay. But
why would Tucker say that he's a gay boy in
a basement?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I think it was just to piss him off.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
I think it was to jab at him and you know,
and say something because you know, Nick fun has very
well spoken, he's he's kind of got that kind.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Of feminine side, you know when you hear him talk and.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
All that, and he's very intelligent regardless, and that's what
Tucker does say. Nick fun has his extremely intelligent. As
soon as I started hearing Nick fun Test talk, I knew,
I like, this is not normal. It's not normal to
have people that can sit in front of a camera,
and I agree with this. Like us, we are on
a microphone. We don't have a camera on us, even
though we're going to start doing more camera stuff on

(13:15):
YouTube see free live if you want to go follow
my YouTube.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Cherry's going to have her soon.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
But you know, on camera, when you're literally sitting there,
the lenses on you, and then you can literally portray
something in twenty minutes so meticulously and so flawlessly, regardless
of whether what you're saying is wrong or not. Nick
fun Test does an amazing job at betraying a message
and doing it in a very meticulous and charismatic way.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
And that is what Nick is so very good at.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
And that's something that that Tucker realizes because Tucker does
the exact same thing.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
And it's not like he's getting on social media saying
all ee to Nazis, like I am a Nazi and
I hate Jews and all Jews should burn an Hell
and we should kill them all. That is not the
mess says that he's sending. No, but in the same sense,
I guess what you were saying before is instead of
just blaming Israel as a government, he blames the actual

(14:12):
people that live in Israel.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
And you know Nick fun Tas obviously has also been lately.
You know there's there's Patrick Bette David, for example, a
huge podcast on YouTube. Patrick Bette David is I think
close to a billionaire. He may be a billionaire, but uh,
PbD has a lot of you know, business ventures. He
makes a lot of money, he does a lot of stuff.
Value taming is this thing. But he also has a

(14:36):
huge podcast. And you know, Nick Fuinn has about a
week or two ago, said look, you know, PbD, you
won't have me on a podcast. He said this in
a one of his one of his shows, and he
said it's because he says that I say the in
word too much. And so guys, we're going to have
to start not saying the in word as much, you know,
because you know PbD said like, I can't have you
on here when literally you're on your show saying the

(14:59):
in word like every other chance you get. And the
reality of Nick Quintas is is that is he a
white supremacist.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Probably?

Speaker 4 (15:07):
I mean, you know, if I have to look at
it that way, he probably is. Is that one of
the most important things for him. I don't know. I
would say that he is a Christian white nationalist supremacist.
He does want the lineage or the I guess the
race of white people to be superior. He does, I believe,
even if it's not the superior race, he wants him

(15:28):
to be. I think the nickquint has at least maybe
believes that the white race is at danger or in
danger from becoming, whether it be a minority, but an
oppressed people.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:39):
And I know that sounds batshit crazy to some people,
but there's literally a community in Arkansas right now that's
being bill us a white so only community. And there
are also many communities in the United States that are
now being built that are black only communities. So there
were it's like we're segregating ourselves.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
And that's always been It's always been like that. Yeah,
people tend to like to live in neighborhoods with people
of like culture, and that just happens. I mean, there
are neighborhoods that are mixed and have you know, white
and black. But you know, if it was a majority
of white neighborhoods and then you see all the black
people moving in, white people notice that. In the same

(16:17):
vice versa, if it's a black neighborhood and white people
start moving into the black neighborhood, they're going to start
noticing it. They see it. But I think that part
of Nick's problem was this, and you used to talk
about this a lot. We have not talked about this lately,
but it was probably maybe a year ago when everything

(16:38):
was going against white males. Do you remember that, And
if you were a white male, you became the bottom
of the totem pole. Yeah, you were no longer like
who people wanted you to be like.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
And you're automatically racist or a rapist or something you
were something you were, You were lesser than everyone else.
And that has been a thing that has been going
on for like eight or ten years now, I mean,
especially since Obama and Ferguson and all this up right,
They utilize police brutality as a way to go against whites.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's what they wanted to do.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
It was not literally even I don't think a mission
or an agenda or ideology or what I believe, some
type of government psyop type shit.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I don't even think it was that.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
I literally think it was just simply that the government
wanted to figure out a way for the black and
white community to be against each other. And one of
the best ways they could do that was they would
highlight these police incidents, which I do believe. We obviously
have to have accountability in law enforcement, especially when these
people have ultimate authority to either take you to jail,

(17:41):
ruin your life, or kill you. You know, if they
are of the law, if they are the people that
are supposed to uphold the law, and they decide whether
or not you have freedom or not, yes, you have
to have accountability on that. But this is when I
believe the government took charge in some of this police brutality.
They blew this up alongside the media, because you can't
do it just by yourself.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
You have to.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Utilize the media to do this. They did it. They
did it very successfully. They started riots, and then it
started to shift the narrative of anti police.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
It became all about white police.

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Now, even during the time of the Ferguson stuff, for example,
you know, it was a white police officer with a
black mail.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
But if you looked at you know, during that month
long time around the time that Michael Brown was killed
and all this stuff, the Ferguson deal, if you look at,
like how many police shootings of black males there were,
there were many black shootings, like meaning black pops that
kill black people and even in some cases unarmed. So

(18:41):
they didn't care about that though. They didn't want to
highlight that. They only wanted to highlight the cases of
white police officers killing blacks because their whole goal from
the very beginning of this was not necessarily to go
against police. It was to go against whites, and it
was literally to divide and conquer even further the black
and white race. And so Nick Flint has then and

(19:04):
this is what it's going to do when you start
doing that as a government or a media or whatever,
when you start saying that all whites are racists, all
whites are white supremacists, all whites are this, All whites
are this. You're going to breed more of those people
that you are already saying that they are. When you
start saying that all white people are racist because they're white,

(19:24):
then you automatically start breeding people that are going to
speak out even stronger against maybe what you don't or
maybe what you do want. And they know that they
have a very good I guess you can say thermometer
on social and economic politics.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
They know exactly how to do this shit. They've done
it for years.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
That's literally I think the reason why they murdered Martin
Luther King because he was not instead of dividing cultures
and people, he was bringing people together and the government
couldn't have that.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Well, it's just like this case I'm following right now
with Austin Drummond, the guy that was the quadruple murderer
in Tennessee. You know, he was a white dude that
was in the vice Lord's gang and after the fact,
four people have been arrested as accessory after the fact,
and they're all black. So when you look on social
media now it's now a blame game. Oh, you are

(20:18):
just going after the black people. You just want the
black people to get arrested because they were arrested after
the fact, and they're helping this white dude. So it
becomes a race baiting thing.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, no matter what, yeh, it always does.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
I mean, obviously, Austin drum is a piece of shit
and you know he's he's a part of this the
vice Lord's gang. And yes, most of the vice lords
are black. But this guy, Austin Drummond that killed the
four people in Tennessee just happened to be white.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
And you see that a lot.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
But you know, when you go into prison, it's so
interesting when when you go into prison, from everything that
you ever hear from anybody that's been in prison, you know,
one of the ways that people survive in prison is
to go with their race in most cases, because you know,
if you want to see racism, go to prison. Oh yeah,
they they are sorry higherarchies. Yeah, and they stick together

(21:05):
for whatever reason it is. It's like kind of goes
back to like, who do we guarantee is going to
protect us? And unfortunately in today's world, you know, black
people in prison believe that blacks are most likely to
protect blacks and whites are most likely to protect whites.
That's why you have the white supremacists in prison, and
you know, the black gangs or whatever how they how
that's ever worked. And then you also have the Spanish

(21:26):
and Mexican and Hispanic gangs and they all kind of
stick together. I'm not saying that's a good thing, but
unfortunately in prison, that's how stuff kind of goes back to. Now,
So to go back to Nick Fuinn Tests and all
this stuff. Yes, people have called him a white supremacist. Yes,
people have said that he's an anti semit. All of
those things may or may not be true. That's for
you guys to decide. What I can say about Nick

(21:47):
finn Test is that he doesn't give a damn about
what he says, and he's going to say exactly how
he says it. You guys can judge however you want
to how he says things. He definitely even has views
on like the way marriages should be in relations between
man and woman and what women's role is and man's
role is, and he's kind of like in some ways

(22:07):
on that level. If you think about like Andrew tank.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
Get Ready said that because like Candace owns, he's when
they were finding over the Internet. He's like, listen, Candace,
just take a break and go make me a sandwich
and when you calm down, come back and talk to me.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Yeah, and stuff like that is just ridiculous. I mean,
I think stuff like that is stupid.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
But also at the same time, it's like, you know,
this is what people sometimes do to rage bait.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
That's what it's called.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Is like when I say something that really pisses people off,
like Nick fun does. The reason why this guy had
a guy show up at his house to kill him.
You know, this was after the whole video that I
think it was after Roe v. Wade and all this stuff,
and Nick Finn has made a video on the internet
said hey, hey, by the way, women, ha ha, your

(22:54):
body my choice.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
You know, that's what he said. So it was a
huge thing.

Speaker 4 (22:58):
It blew up when all over me media both sides, well,
I pissed off mostly, but yeah, but yeah, because most
of the people on the right were like, this dude's
just baiting. That's what he's doing, and that's what he
does do. And he even for once actually came out
and kind of apologized for that. But there is some
annoying kind of music in the background of this, but
this is just some of the highlights. How some of

(23:18):
this all started from the Nick fun test and canas
owens I guess podcast or debate or whatever you want
to call it. It's not that long, so you don't
have to deal with the music, and then we're actually
gona get into the Tucker and Nick fontest back and forth.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Here you go, appreciate the lecture. You don't know me.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
You know so, I know you're married, I know you're
older than me, but you don't know me. You don't
know my life, you don't know my situation. I don't
think you're in a position to give me advice, especially
as a woman.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Honestly, what is your dating life?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I don't have a dating life, so.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
You don't date. No, you have a perspective about who
you want to marry. Do you intend to get married?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I do. I do intend to get married and have kids.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Swear you out on that.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
I'm trying to get prepared for that mentally.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
What does that mean? You're twenty six years old.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
I like my life. I like being single. I like
being a guy. I like what I like.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
I like reading books, I like doing my show. I'm
a pretty anti social person. And it's a big adjustment
for a man to go from having a life where
you can do whatever you want, go wherever you want, unaccountable,
you know, everything like that, to then you have to
be roommates with women and children. It's a totally different lifestyle.

(24:32):
And for someone like myself. I'm a pretty eccentric and
you know, kind of out there person. I don't have
a regular sleep schedule. I'm awake all night, I'm asleep
all day, you know, and my sleep schedules moving around
all the time.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I like to go out on drives all the time.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
The idea of like, you know, my wife's sending me
out the door, okay, be home by ten, you know,
call me and.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Tell me where you're going.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Or you know, I go on a trip, I got
to get the car seats and buy all the plane
tickets and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
You know.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
It's kind of cramp in my style. So I'm trying
to get over that, I guess. But that's maturing.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
Yeah, I think you should probably mature on that point.
I mean, what, yeah, I got to tell me, I know,
I want to go for drives.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
That that would be something.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
I mean, if you are do you attend the mess
I do, Like, do you go every Sunday?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
I do?

Speaker 7 (25:19):
Okay, so you're like a committed Catholic and obviously like
you know the perspectives on family, I mean I personally,
and this would be me lecturing, but I just feel
like you really have no idea who you are until
you start a family and whatether that means just marriage
some people who are struggling to have children. Okay, fine,
But there's such a growth that happens because of that

(25:41):
that I think it informs your beliefs in so many ways.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
And I think that was a huge turning point for me.

Speaker 7 (25:45):
Like I wonder if I had been pressed with everything
that happened last year, if I didn't have like the
unshaken faith and my family, what would I have done?
And sometimes when I see the things that you say,
I do think, Okay, he hasn't take into account family.
It's just nick. Nick is in his own world, which
can be I think, a quite selfish perspective, which is fine,

(26:07):
that's what you're saying. You like being selfish is another
way to say what you just said. I like being
selfish and I don't want to give of myself to
somebody else.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
But you.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
I also think there's something self less involved, which is
to say I could go and start a family and
drag them into a world of mine, which is pretty chaotic,
you know. I mean, is this really the kind of
a lifestyle if I'm banned on everything and I can't
make a living. I'm banned from banking, I'm banned from
credit card processing, I'm getting docs. People are shown up

(26:37):
to my house trying to kill me, things like that,
and what's more, I mean, let's also get you know,
I also don't appreciate the lecture you don't know me.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
You know, so, I know.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
You're married, I know you're older than me, but you
don't know me. You don't know my life, you don't
know my situation. I don't think you're in a position
to give me advice, especially as a woman. Honestly, I
don't think women, you know, this is something in the
right way. We say anti feminist, and then women go
around telling men what to do. We're not their husbands,
and you know, I don't really buy into that ideologically.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
But that's besides the point.

Speaker 6 (27:09):
You know, my life has been tumultuous from the very beginning,
from the time I turned eighteen, people are coming from
my neck and trying to get me. And I was
kicked out of college. And then you know, once you're
branded as an anti Semite before it became cool or popular,
can't get a job, can't make a living, get banned
from PayPal, all this kind of stuff. You know, that's
a very difficult environment to try to have a dating life.

(27:30):
You know, what do I do? I go out on Tinder,
I go to a bar and I say, hey, I'm
a neo Nazi. Nick fuentis that the ADL is writing
articles about every day I'm going to start a dating
profile on Tinder. People are going to screenshot that mess
with me in all kinds of ways. It's a very
difficult predicament actually for me because I took on basically
a huge sacrifice at the beginning. And I don't know

(27:51):
that you really appreciate that enough. I think that you're
somebody who you know, you had a career in politics
for as long as I was fighting a battle. You
were at Nelly wire with the contract, You're at turning point,
you're making good money, you're doing book deals. You're part
of this thing that I'm criticizing and paying a very
heavy price for at a time when no one's saying

(28:13):
those things, when it's very unpopular. And it's not to
say that I'm a victim, you know, because I did
it willingly and I love it and I would do
it again. But it is to say that, you know,
you and I have lived very different lives, and you
know it's easy, I think for you to say you
had your husband, have your kids, you got your ducks
in a row, made quite a bit of money, then

(28:34):
you discovered the truth, and then you went out on
a limb. And it's not to say it didn't make
sacrifices and it wasn't a risk and it paid off.
You're doing great now, and I congratulate you. But with me,
there was no calculation. I mean, I almost want to say,
I was seventeen. What's your excuse. I was seventeen and
I woke up and I went balls to the wall,
bucket of ice, cold water. As you say, I made

(28:55):
a lot of enemies, and maybe that wasn't wise, you know,
but I told the truth. I took on extremely heavy
cost for my personal life. It basically has made it
so that I can't have a personal life. I don't
even have many friends. Forget about, you know, dating women.
I can't even really have a lot of male friends
because there's such an incentive to betray me, to turn
your back on me, because there are people that are

(29:18):
being paid to attack me all the time on Twitter
for information about me, things like that. So you know,
it's something like everything else that I'm figuring out one
step at a time, just like my show. And you know,
when I get banned from something, you know whether or
not I'll be able to have a family and kids
and what that'll look like. But I mean, it's a
little bit it's a little more complicated, I think than
maybe you understand.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I think you just got super triggered by me just
saying something so casual.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
What was that about? You?

Speaker 2 (29:44):
See, I don't know you're a woman.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
You're like you're a woman, just like I was just
having a conversation with you, just being like, hey, like
you there's a lot of growth that comes from when
you start a family like that's like a it's a
pretty cool thing to do. And I feel like you
got pretty triggered there and got like little upset.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
I don't know what I did there.

Speaker 6 (29:58):
I don't I don't like that you say triggered, but
you are a living I'm being candid.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
I'm being candid with you.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
And I'm saying, oh, woman, it's like you're.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Talking about my personal life. You're talking about my person.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
We're having a conversation.

Speaker 7 (30:09):
I talked to a ton of people about their personal lives,
Like why do you feel like you like this is?
That wasn't a line of attack, Nick, I know it
wasn't a line, So why you kind of responded like
you were just attacked?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
All right? So there you go.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
So that was kind of a big, I guess tough
or tiff between Nick quint Has and Kendizots.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
And now there's a couple of things I want to
say about this.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Number one, I one hundred percent agree that Nick quinn
Has his life is not going to be very easy
to date people, or to have friends or any of
this stuff.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
You know.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
And he said here in one instance, he said, you know,
I was seventeen, What is your excuse?

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Like, you know, why did you not walls?

Speaker 6 (30:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (30:45):
From the very beginning, right and you eventually somehow found
the truth and all that. The only reason that Candae
so Wan's right now is out there on her own
is because The Daily Wire basically canceled her because she
had a little bit difference of opinion versus being Shapiro
and the Israel lobby and all that stuff. And when
you have a different opinion all Israel, you think it happened.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Yeah, I think that's when she called Jesus king and
Ben didn't like that and he was like, you're out
of here.

Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, and so also too, it's like, you know, you
also have to think about it this way, like you know, Candace,
in my opinion, in this conversation was kind of putting
down Nick in some way that he didn't have a family.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah, and you got to mature. You're not, you know,
acting your age. You're twenty eight years older, however you are,
and you should be like in a relationship twenty six,
twenty six, twenty whatever, but you should be in a relationship.
You should be thinking about starting a family. But that
was not his inspiration or his goals in the beginning
and what his goals were. And I don't want to

(31:48):
bring Ashton Forbes into it, but it's kind of the
same thing. Ashton Forbes is all into what he's into,
like the free energy, you know, all these things.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Make sure seventy, that's right.

Speaker 5 (31:58):
Yeah, and he's you know, so he gets blasted from
social media as well. It's hard to have a relationship
when you're constantly blasted.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah, and it's not even that too.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
And this is going to be a very weird contradiction
I'm about to make in just a second. But you know,
if you think about Nick fun Test here for example,
you know, anytime you start seeing someone that has a
huge platform, and especially if you have a huge platform
on social media, right, so in some ways, like there
are a lot of podcasts out there are quite a
few that have huge platforms, and if those podcasts also

(32:32):
then have huge platforms on social media to where you
can just literally reach out to people with you know,
a couple of sentences on your Instagram or your Twitter
or x whatever Facebook, the system will notice that very fast.
They don't notice it as much when you have big
platforms on podcasts, but they will definitely notice it as
you start to grow on every platform.

Speaker 6 (32:53):
Right.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
And so for Nick, it was like he went against
the system from the very beginning, and they nip that
shit in the bud as fast as they possibly could. Now,
there's something else I have thought about and I don't
even know exactly how to say this, but I followed
a guy that is a country rapper in Tennessee, Ryan
Upchurch and up Churches.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
You know, he kind of in some ways created.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
The not created, but he was a huge influence and
still is not even just country rap but independent artistry
to begin, right, I mean just in whole you think
about people like Tom McDonald, and you think about you know,
even all the country rappers, or just think about the
independent artists. Well, the difference in up Church and these

(33:36):
other artists was that Upchurch was like somewhat a Nick
Finn test to where he.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Did not give a damn.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
He would get on the internet, he would have post
these videos, which is how Upchurch actually started. He started
just getting on his phone posting all this crazy shit.
He would say, the most wild shit ever. And that
was just who he was. It was exactly who up
Church was. He when he was on camera, likely when
he was talking to his friends in private or whatever,

(34:03):
it was the same thing, if not even maybe a
little more of himself on camera. And that's what kind
of blew up up Church. And so then he utilized
that to become a huge independent artist. I mean some
of his videos on YouTube are you know, fifty million views,
insane amounts of numbers. So now you have Upchurch over
the past couple of years where you have certain people

(34:24):
like he used to run in the same circles, and
actually I believe he in some ways helped and influence
jelly Roll. So you know everybody knows about jelly Roll,
right well, Upchurch and jelly Roll were in that same circle.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
So was Adam Calhoun and all well.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Even Luke Colms, which is one of the biggest country singers.
Luke Colmes was in a music video with Ryan Upchurch
at one point time.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
I think that video got fifty million views, and.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
So I think there was in that video there was
a guitar that had a rebel flag on it or
a Confederate flag, and so Luke Colms once he got huge,
which is also from my area.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
I know a lot of people that knew Calms.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
I didn't know him personally, but Luke Holmes, I think
like after he became famous, he had to kind of
come out and apologize about this video. I think he
I can't remember one hundred percent, but it's almost like
he had to reach out to up Church to see
if maybe they could take the video down. Once you
get into the system, then you're you're a part of system,

(35:20):
and you've got to cross your t's and got your
eyes and so Upchurch has always not been a part
of the system. He has literally talked shit about the
system almost on every occasion he possibly can. He talks
about the music industry, and the music industry is huge,
and they have massive influence and they have massive control.
And why, well, you have to ask yourself, why does
the music industry have massive control, because then you do

(35:41):
not control the artist. If you have independent artists that
are making it massive and you are influencing them based
on your music and it's not the ideological music that
the music industry wants you to produce. There's a reason
why everybody that you know, country artists from twenty thirty,
forty fifty years ago are much different than they are today.
There's a reason why country artists today sound more pop.

(36:02):
There's a reason why they're on mainstream. There's a reason
why they're not talking about the same shit they used
to talk about.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
There's also a.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
Reason why they're you know, they're they're partnering with rappers
that then those rappers also are talking about gang violence
and prostitutes and hose and and all this stuff that
they want the connection from that type of people into
that other world as well. And so when you have
someone that's kind of out there going against the system,
you're going to be hated.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
And so Ryan Upchurch.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
Over the past six months, it is crazy how many
people have less left his life. I mean, people that
have screwed him over, his own family in some cases,
all of his best friends, every single person around him
has went with this other group of people that it's
almost like this other group of people. It's kind of
been promised something like, hey, look if we just if
we just eliminate.

Speaker 5 (36:48):
Him, sign the dot online with the bloody pin.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah, and so you know, and a lot of people
are like, well up Church is on drugs or something.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's what they want.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Everybody he does kind of act like that.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Well who knows, I mean, I don't know he but
he's kind of always acting like that, and I think
that's just who he is worse now. Yeah, but he's
also having everybody screw him over.

Speaker 5 (37:08):
Yeah right, his own mother, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yeah, his o mother did.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
I think they're kind of talking again, But you know,
he just had a video producer, one of the guys
that's been with him forever.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
He's left. Now, his best friend left, everybody's left.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
Now.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
You could say maybe it's just him. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
I would still actually like to talk to Church as
saybody knows who he is or you know, kind of
a connection that I would like to talk to him about,
you know, kind of that whole conspiracy side of this.
But what I do want to go ahead and do
is I want to get into the interview with h
with Tucker Cross and then Candae Sowans and Tucker knew
when he started talking about this that you know, he

(37:44):
knew what he was about to cause.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
And you know he said, I know what.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
I'm about to do is about to get about to
get into some ship.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
It's about to stir the pot.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Absolutely. But here is the interview between.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
Tuckers and Canda Owens, and this is kind of what
they talked about with Nick Quintes.

Speaker 8 (38:04):
Listen, that's a fascinating observation that has never occurred to
me that the theater kids have taken like literally.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
The literal theater kids. That's just here's your next role.
You're going to be pressure.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Speaking of theater.

Speaker 8 (38:21):
I just hesitate even to ask this, but since because
I mean, it just opens up all this stuff I
want to deal with. But you just interviewed Nick Fuintes.
I did, or had a conversation with him. What did
you think of that? What do you think of him?

Speaker 7 (38:35):
I mean, I can tell you my experience was entirely
fraudulent with him. I never interview people as a gotcha interview.
It's always just that he was making the round. He's
been around for a while and kind of his story
when I learned it, because he was banned from everywhere,
so I didn't actually know what the backstory was with
Nick Fintees, But then I learned it when he was
allowed back on X and Jeremy Boring, who was then

(38:58):
the CEO of Delly Wire, did this X Live with him, and.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
Jeremy Boring did an event with Nick Fuente.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
It was weird.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
Everything was weird about what happened, but it happened, and
Nick told his story and I was listening in and
said essentially that he was canceled because he started asking
questions about Israel. He was eighteen years old, and he
alleged that it was very much the fault of the
Daily Wire or whatever he said, and I found to
be very interesting and I was like, oh, I actually
didn't know this was the backswork. Maybe this really is
a person who had just ahead of everybody else, was

(39:29):
questioning Israel and had like a bad hand given to him.
So I had him on the show, welcomed him into
my home, and he was very nice. We told him,
we're going to cut a controversial trailer. We're going to
show you these clips of you talking trash about me,
and you can talk about whatever you want for as
long as you want to ask any questions you want
to ask.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
It went great.

Speaker 7 (39:51):
He left, he said thanks, we can now be friends,
and I am not kidding. We published this eleven days
later and he it was I don't even know how
to He just starts screaming, calling me an f ing
bi tch who set him up. We didn't edit a
single thing those eleven days, Like two weeks before we

(40:11):
even published the interview. We told him if there's anything
that he wanted us to insert, like nobody does that
if you go on the show, and I don't know what.
I genuinely don't know what triggered him other than me
at the very end asking him about like or talking
to him about family, and it was it was just
the rage that was coming out of him was just weird.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
And I don't know why he did that.

Speaker 7 (40:28):
I don't know why he did at one to eighty
would access to me, you could have said anything after
even if he had said in good faith, I thought
I sounded a little weird here.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
Could you cut it out?

Speaker 7 (40:35):
We probably would have cut it out because I just
don't want people to ever not have.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
A good experience. Show you know what I'm saying, and.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
I want to pause.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
I don't think Nick had rage when he responded to
her about her kind of talking to him about, hey,
you don't have a family. I don't think you really
know who you are Nick.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
Yeah. I think she was misdiagnosing his true feelings.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
Yeah, And it's like, if I.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
Know, I'm just telling you, I'm putting it on the line.
I've gone through all of this and I've gone through
it a roundabout way, and you've had the easy way
and I've had the hard way.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
Yeah, pretty much, absolutely, Yeah, And so like for you
to say, you know, well, well, you won't actually know
who yourself is until you have family.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
I mean, the reality is that I don't think that's true.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
I think just as much as family sometimes or having
kids can make you who you are, and that is
very true in some cases.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I think also the opposite of that can.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Make to who you are being alone. Yeah, in some
cases it may be more. I mean, I don't have
a kid of my own. I have a step kid,
you know, but I mean I and that's you know,
it sucks, I guess in some ways and not have
a kid of your own.

Speaker 1 (41:35):
But it's also like, you know, would.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
A kid change my perspective or views on the world.
I don't think so. I mean, you know, maybe it
makes me a little happier in some areas, right, whatever
those areas may be, I don't know. But it's not
going to change who I am as a person. It's
not going to completely shift my world views of what
I think when I believe. And for Nick, it's like,
you know, Nick is someone that is by them self

(42:00):
and he doesn't have family around him all the time,
a wife telling him this, and the kids and all
this shit, you know, And I think it would be
hard because I think if you had Nick fuintes, whether
you agree or disagree with him on things. I think
Nick is needed in this world, and I think we
need more people like Nick quint Has to not give
a damn about what they say, regardless of whether it's

(42:21):
wrong or right, or whether you agree with it or
disagree with it. And I think that if Nick quint
has had a kid and had a family, Nick Quintes
would not be in the equation as much or the
conversation as much probably as he is now. So for
him to be at home alone thinking about all this
shit all the time, doing these shows, making impacts in
ways that other people are not doing because maybe they're

(42:43):
toeing the line or they're not saying certainly.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
I'll give you guys an example. You know we that
the last I think it was like the last episode,
it's like we got.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
You know, we got a couple of emails saying, guys,
you said bullshit or you said shit.

Speaker 5 (42:58):
Here that sounds stupid. I thought you were going to
say something about us disagreeing with Israel.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
No no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
Sohwe the line and you try to like.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
I don't really tell the line. I mean, I don't afer.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Yourself to an extent because of your wife.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Well, I don't even I don't even really do that anymore.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
I you know, but you know, even just a point
of like last episode where people were like, oh, you
said bullshit or you said shit, or you cuss too much,
you sound like an idiot or whatever. I'm like, if
you don't like listening to us, then don't listen, right.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Me listen, And I got to tell you guys a
quick story about that. You know, there's some people that
didn't believe that I was a teacher, but I was
a teacher for a long long time. And living with Chad,
he does cuss a lot, and it's just part of
his vocabulary. He cusses in normal, like everyday conversation.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
No fucking he does.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
And then during the summer, you know, I'll start saying
shit or whatever, like you know, during my conversations. And
then when I go back to school, it's like I
had to retrain my brain. Do not say what you're thinking.
Don't tell the kid to shut the fuck up, just
say be quiet.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
Oh my god, that's funny. No, I mean, but it
is true. I mean it is true. I mean I
do have a vocabulary I need and I do. I
guess at some point in times work on that. You know,
when I'm asleep and I'm not cussing a lot.

Speaker 5 (44:15):
But it's just part of but it is, it's part
of your vocabulary. That's just the way you talk to
some degree, even normal Like listen, we can even go
to McDonald's to get a snack wrap and Chata is
cussing somebody at the light.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
No, I'm not well.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
First of all, people are dumbasses nowadays, and it pisses
me off.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Sometimes I'll be wore a dumbass.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
I'm like, okay, negative, Nancy, what is positive about this
car in front of us?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
Nothing? Nothing at all?

Speaker 4 (44:45):
But yeah, I mean no, I mean yeah, it is,
I guess in some ways part of my vocabulary for sure.
But I mean do I not want to cuss as much?
I mean I don't cuss like as like some people do.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
For sure. No you don't, but you know I do
cuss it.

Speaker 4 (44:56):
But it's just so funny because and I've always often,
always said this, and we've talked about on telegram with
some of our listeners, to where it's like people are like,
oh my god, you call yourself a Christian or you
believe in Jesus and you cuss it's like it's like
you're going to hell. This is the problem, like this
is this is this kind of talking.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
You died for your sins, and so every time you cuss,
it's a sin. But Jesus died.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
For well he did, he did.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
And it's just it's interesting to me how people will
like to reach out and try to tell you how
you're sinning, although they act like they're not, because everybody is.
And so, you know, and I've said this before, like
I don't give a damn what people think. Like you're
either going to listen to us or you're not. This
is who we are. I don't give a shit what
you think. If you don't like me cussing or saying
shit or bullshit or fuck or damn or whatever that,

(45:46):
don't listen, you know, don't listen.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
And I don't really even say it very much.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
I mean, think you cuss that much, no a podcast.
You cuss way more in like normal conversations, probably when
you do on the podcast.

Speaker 4 (45:57):
But there's a reason why, you know, I will never
forget there's a reason why I, you know, tried to
do my very best at like not cussing as much
on the podcast because I think it was like five
years ago. Someone was like, hey, you know, I let
my kids listen.

Speaker 1 (46:10):
Every once in a while.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
So you know that came out Nathan.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
No, No, it wasn't nothing, No, it was no, this
was someone else, Okay. Yeah, And so I was like, well,
I get that, And you know, I don't want people
to have to like silence or you know, not listen
because I cussed. So I'd try not to as much,
even though I just did, like you know, I said
like five or eight cuss words. But but also I'm
just trying to be who I am, you know, and

(46:35):
as much as possible. And so and I think that's
the problem, is like people try to judge people all
the time, and and I think this is also the
case with Tucker Crossing and Nick Fintez. I think they're
judging each other. I think they're trying to call each
other out. And I think even when Tucker Crosson brought
this up and asked Cannas Owens about Nick Fuintes, right,
thinking also about how what Tucker's about to say is

(46:58):
literally kind of like a low jazz but it's kind
of a low punch to Nick Quintz.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
And then especially I didn't know that Tucker's dad was
in the CIA, yeah, at all until this came up. Yeah,
Like I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Well, we're going to play that too. We're going to
play that.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Just kind of make sure that that's understood, because you know,
it's not necessarily a surprising. The CIA, we know, has
massive influence over mainstream media.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
They do.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
I mean, there used to be mainstream media personalities that
were paid by the government, mostly to CIA. This was
part of Operation Mockingbird. But Operation Mockingbird, which was the
government's influence of our media, has never stopped.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
You know.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
So when you think about the United States always talking
about Russia and China and North Korea influencing media, where
it's only what the government wants the media to say
is what they'll say, I promise you it's not much different.
In the United States. They do a better job at
trying to be like, you know, a left and right media,
even though there's really only like one or two right
medias and then basically all the rest of them are left.

(47:59):
All of those things I believe are coordinated. I think
they're all still paid, whether it be Fox News, CNN, MSNBC,
and is all to continually sew division, because, as we've
said a billion times, if you don't have division, then
you have a people to come together. And when the
people come together, eventually the people, three hundred plus million
people in America will start to realize and like, holy shit,

(48:21):
look how.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Corrupt our government is.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
What do we like?

Speaker 1 (48:24):
What can we do about this?

Speaker 4 (48:26):
And the government can't have three hundred million people when
they have I think in the federal government workforce, what
three and a half four million people, three and a
half four million versus you know, three hundred. They have
to sew division on a regular and constant basis. Otherwise
you cannot control the people. And the reality of what
the government is no matter how you look at it,
it is to control the people. It used to be

(48:48):
four to people. It's no longer about that. It is
now just designed to control the people. And although I
do one hundred percent degree in law and order, they've
taken it far far, you know, a much further, I guess,
than what it was actually designed for. So let's listen
to some more of this interview.

Speaker 9 (49:04):
Well, to ever not have a good experienced you know
what I'm saying, I'll say, you want people, Well, this
I was speaking for myself. When I invite someone on,
especially just to hear their views, I want them to
be able to express what they actually think right exactly.
And you decide what you think, can you decide how
to express it? I mean, that's like a basic human
right kind of evident. And so I'm not here to
trip you up into saying something you don't mean. I

(49:26):
want to hear what you do mean.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Yeah, exactly, And he told a story. He did all
of that, and apparently.

Speaker 7 (49:31):
Then and I don't know if it was driven by insecurity,
didn't know how his followers would take the interview, but
he just did a complete one eighty lied to his audience,
pretended that he was surprised he was behind a people
we spoke about him and how we were going to
believe it. He said, great, I mean, it's a totally
total one eighty flip. So I can now say that
I didn't listen to all of people say that Nick
was a bad person. I didn't care about what happened.

(49:52):
He was eighteen nineteen twenty twenty six. I sat across
for a person, had a conversation with him. He behaved
one way in person, and then put on a show
for the Internet. So I actually can say my experience
with Nick Fuentes is that he's a terrible person and
a terrible human being.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Beau, why would you do that? There's no reason to
do that.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
You could have come back onto the show, you could
have had the beginning of us discussing various topics. I
think in many ways, whatever happened to him was when
he was eighteen may have stunted his growth, meaning that
he now is responding to the Internet, which is filled
with people that don't even use their real names.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Right, So really truly the eye.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
But Candace, you were literally at the Daily Wire as
a Christian. You were doing everything the Daily Wire wanted
you to do. You were a part of the system
since you were eighteen as well. And literally this is
what Nick Fintes says, and he said it in other
interviews where you know what most people don't realize when
we've talked about on other shows to where there are
set people that are on this. I guess you can say,

(50:52):
not agenda, but what am I trying to pathway? They
the government, They the government and political factions will find
some people that go to certain colleges that are either
in political studies or whatever the case is. They will
find those people in political studies. They will then come
and they will groom them the same way that you
would think of a pedophile grooming a child, or whatever

(51:13):
the case is, Like Gislaine Maxwell, they do that in politics.
They will find these people in colleges. They will then
groom them to become massive influencers on either the left
or either the right. We see this with Harry Sisson,
we see it with the I can't remember the other
moron's name on the left, but you also see this
on the right. I mean, a great and blaring example

(51:35):
of this, in my opinion is Charlie Kirk. You think
of probably even Stephen Crowder. There are so many of them,
and the ones that kind of towe the line and
go a little bit further in to the middle or whatever.
Those are people that they want to start blacklisting. And
then there are also people that weren't necessarily set on
that pathway that then try to get into the conservative

(51:59):
influencer or the you know, left wing realm. It's easier
to get into the left wing influencer realm than it
is the right, but it's harder to get into the
right because they want full and total control of how
and what you say. And you know, for example, I'm
not saying Charlie Kirk is not good. I'm not saying
he's well taught or well versed or well spoken. He is,

(52:19):
but you know, Turning Point USA huge thing. He runs
a massive Turning Point USA organization to where they want
to influence the younger kids in high school and college
to vote conservative or vote right. And you know, Charlie
Kirk has been afforded whatever resources he.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Has needed to build this.

Speaker 4 (52:39):
It's not like this guy is just a brilliant mind
and did it all on his own.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
That's not the case.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
And there are also much smaller influencers that are also
paid by certain factions. And you can tell whether who
they're paid by. Are they paid or influenced in some
way by Apak? Well you can tell those people. And
a lot of these people have massive accounts on social media.
Whether there's kat Turd or the Conservative I can't even
remember some of these names, but there are people and

(53:05):
every single talking point that the right has, they will
have no matter what, no matter whether they completely said
something about Epstein a year or two ago and said
oh my god, I can't believe the government's not releasing this.
And then the Trump administration decides to call it a
hoax and not release it. Those people will also jump
on the same bandwagon black, Yeah, it's a hoax. It's bullshit.
It's just you know, you're not that dumb that it's

(53:27):
so obvious that you're paid and influenced. Right, And it's
always been the case with the left, but it also
happens on the right. The problem with Nick Flint has
and the reason why now I'm going to give him
credit to some degree, is that he has been dbanked,
he has been deplatformed, he has been censored, in silenced.
The only reason that he even has a voice right
now is because of X and Rumble. So at the

(53:48):
very least, whether you agree or disagree with him, I
don't necessarily think that he is a fed or a
insert I think maybe at some point maybe he was
until he started asking or talking about the wrong things,
and they're like, we can't have this guy because he's
not He's not going to say what we want him
to say.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Right.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
I don't know that for sure, but he did get
kicked out of college. A lot of this started around
the anti Semitism stuff or the question of Israel. And
those are valid questions, especially when you are you know,
you're an American and this is a foreign nation and
you are a Christian and not a Jew. There are
questions that you need to ask yourself. It's the same
thing as if Iran came in and had this massive

(54:29):
influence on the United States politics and you're an American,
but you had anything you question about Muslim or you
know whatever, all of a sudden you got canceled in banned.
Imagine that in America, right, imagine that happening. It just
it wouldn't happen. The only way it happens now is
because it's Israel. And if you question Israel the result
will be Nick Quintes, which you know, I don't know

(54:51):
he's doing okay with himself right now.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Any of it all is.

Speaker 7 (54:55):
You could just be like the IDF soldiers, just pretending
to be his supporters, just getting him to say whatever
you want, because he's going to do whatever you say.
But it was strange, It was totally strange. It made
no sense.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
And I just have a family or a normal life,
and I asked about that. He said, yeah, it comes
from a two parent household. So he told me does
he have his own family? Does he No?

Speaker 7 (55:13):
No, he's not married. And I just offered to him.
I was like, you know, I think these are the
things that you learned to marry. And he just was
vicious about it. And you know, we women don't tell
me what to do or whatever it was, and it
was very performative. Like I said the exact same thing
to Andrew Tate months earlier. I had him and I
said you should get married.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Here's why.

Speaker 7 (55:30):
And of course Andretate did not react like that. He
told me what his hang ups were about marriage. It
was just a part of two people communicating on a show.
But for whatever reason, like it was, he saw this
as like an attack. Even though interesting, Yeah, it was weird.
It was totally weird. Well, okay, has it occurred to
you that?

Speaker 8 (55:46):
And I just want to say, I haven't watched a
lot of Nick Fuintes in my life at all, but
what I've seen, the guy's very talented, like just as
a as a well, let me just say this as
someone who's talked to cameras his whole life, it is
very hard to sit and just like Riff for twenty minutes,
and I just I think it's an amazing skill and

(56:08):
he has that skill. But I also have noticed that
his targets are all people who are sincere, non crazy,
non hateful opponents of neo Khon politics, right, so you
have to kind of wonder about that. So Nick fuentint
is like, oh, I don't like the neo cons, but
then his targets are jd Vance, Joe Kent. He like

(56:32):
tried to he got involved in Joe Kent's campaign with
a super oh yes, you me.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
And it's like, what is that Dave Smith?

Speaker 7 (56:42):
I asked him about that because that's a question that
I had, So I did the right thing by asking
him to his face, what's up with this?

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Like why do you attack Dave Smith?

Speaker 7 (56:49):
You say that, like your biggest critique is that America's
being controlled by Israel. Then you have Dave Smith, who
has been such a sound voice. And by the way,
opposite experience with Dave Smith my podcast is a fantastic
human being.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
I judge based this is one of the nicest people.

Speaker 7 (57:02):
Fantastic human yes, And so I judge people according to
my experiences with them, and so Nick is being judged
according to my experience with it.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I got to stop for a second.

Speaker 4 (57:10):
For those that do not know what a neocon is,
A neocon is essentially a conservative in most cases, but
you know it is it is a faction to where
you do not want so a neocon is they want
to spread Western influence abroad around the world, and they
will use military force or power to do so, whether

(57:30):
that be regime change or whatever. And typically that leads
to the military industrial complex. And so the neocon term
is kind of bullshit to begin with, because you know,
neocon really means let's make sure that we have the
military investor complex propped up for years and years to
come by forcing ourselves and intervening in other countries where

(57:51):
we really probably shouldn't be. And even if that means
regime change, whether it be the CIA, DARPA, you know
whoever that is a neocon.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
And so you know who is like one of.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
The most prime neocons in our politics, guest Sherry. He's
from South Carolina. That's Lindsay Graham. Lindsey Graham, He's a Neocon.
But you might as well say, when you talk about neocon,
you might as well say a military industrial complex puppet
that's what they are.

Speaker 5 (58:19):
And so they're saying Nick is a neoca.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
No, No, he's anti neocon.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Ok So he's anti I guess people that are, you know,
being influenced by what I think is the military industrial
complex to go and to go into other countries.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Because they make money, and they're making money off of
these companies to keep campaigning and being in the position
they're in.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
So it's like to say that we should utilize Ukraine
as a proxy to go in and disrupt and destroy Russia.
That would be a neocon because we want to push
Western policy.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
And he's on Russia anti Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:56):
Absolutely, that would be the same thing with our influence
in Israel, or influence in Iran or anybody. So these
against war, against war, but especially against just you know,
we're America first. Let's care about America. Let's not care
about all the other countries around the world. Let's not
send our soldiers to die in foreign wars that we
have no business being in.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
But I think where his his advertising goes wrong is
the fact that, Okay, I'm anti war. Let's not put
our nose where we don't belong. Let's stay in America first.
But we got to realize that white males are the higherarchy,
and then below them are the women, the blacks, the

(59:38):
blah blah blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
That's where he goes wrong.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
I think that's why he goes wrong. And he has
so much hatred on other sides.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
Okay, so and so to the opposite of that topic,
right if you don't Okay, so, for example, we've already
talked about how they wanted to make straight white males
or you know whatever. Yeah, well, as they want to
make white males in America like the lowest of the
totem pole.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Right, but if you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Have anyone at all in any way, shape or form
standing up for that people, Now, whether or not you
out there think that those straight white males are the
predominant leaders of the world, which I don't. I mean,
if you say that, I I don't mean necessarily think
it's American white males that are predominant leaders.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Maybe they are, but just say, for example.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Okay, but you think about how America was founded. It
was straight white males.

Speaker 4 (01:00:30):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, that's America. That's that's kind
of well, yeah, America was founded. But then obviously before
that you had Indians. And then before that, hell, I
mean everybody's like the Native Americans, Well, who was before
the Native Americans? There were other people here before the
Native Americans, probably giants, who knows what the hell was here? Cavemen,
they were technically the natives. I mean, there was someone
before the Indians. The Indians were not the first people

(01:00:51):
in this lane.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
And I guess what I'm saying is that culture tried
to cancel white white males.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
For a while, for sure, absolutely and still happening. So
if you don't have anyone speaking out for that, just
like you have BLM, just like you have all these NAACP,
you have all.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Of these organizations, a white organization like standing up for
white males.

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
No because they think that it's not needed, and so eventually,
you know, it'll keep getting picked at and picked at
and picked at. And especially over the past four years,
if you think about it's not a racism topic, but
if you think about over the past four years under
Biden Harrison administration, where you had a wide open border,
you got people from all over the world coming completely
you know, they and many of these people didn't give

(01:01:35):
a shit about American culture, heritage, none of that stuff.
Are our founding fathers, any of our constitution, nothing. They
don't care about any of that shit. I'm not saying
all of them, but a lot of them did not.
And so if you don't have if that's consistently and
constantly being picked away at, and you don't have anyone
standing up for that, then eventually it will be come to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Where you are the oppressed completely.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
And I don't think that Erica today is in my opinion,
I don't think America is oppressed in blacks. I think
blacks have an amazing opportunity in America to succeed as
as everyone does in America. I think that's the thing
that's what's great about America. If you are in America,
there's a reason why.

Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
If not anything else. DEI helped black Americans helped white
and white females.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
It helped white females, Yes, well I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
It probably, yes, it did.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
But it mostly helped know.

Speaker 5 (01:02:26):
It mostly about Karen in Los Angeles, the mayor for
k oh Yeah, she's not white.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
Sorry, But what I'm saying is you're you're talking about
you're talking about the female thing, and so that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
But that's that's like a very small faction of DEI.

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
The de I think predominantly came from race related issues,
not feminine or not not female versus male. D I
was a thing to where they circumvented the system. They
didn't they they they made this initiative to where it
didn't matter about skills or education. It mattered about what
culture or race you came from more than that did
what your talents and de were. And that's just completely asinine.

(01:03:03):
That is discrimination in its whole. You know, if you
think about like the fact that you know they say, well,
you know, should you discriminate when you literally have on
an application, which are on so many applications that what
your races authenticity all the ship and you're talking about
and you're talking about you're trying to fix discrimination, but

(01:03:23):
you're saying you're trying to fix discrimination. But now you
have an application to where you have to state your race.

Speaker 5 (01:03:29):
Well, it's been like that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
No, it hasn't always been that, I think it has.
It hasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
No, it has not been like that, and not until
a furnative action and DEI and all this stuff. That's
when they started putting race into applications.

Speaker 5 (01:03:41):
Well, I don't think they should have any of that
on an apple, absolutely not. And that goes for college too.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
But do you understand why they have race and applications
is because of tax credits based on the government. The
reason why they want to know what race you are
and applications is because if they know that you're an
applicant and you're black or Hispanic or whatever, then they
might put those applications in a higher priority than the
white applications because you have a huge tax breaker you

(01:04:07):
did under Biden Harris if you hire someone from that
particular class of people, whether it's black or Hispanics or whatever,
and you don't have that tax break. If you hire
a white male especially, it's probably like you probably get
pin life for hiring that. But that's literally the way
it's been, regardless of whatever anyone is that you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Can look it up.

Speaker 5 (01:04:26):
It is true. And I'm not a white male and
I'm agreeing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
So, but you're a white female. You're just not a
white Karen.

Speaker 5 (01:04:32):
Oh, but I'm a white sherry.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
Yeah, white sherry. So like, what is this where it
does a funding come from?

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
I had I probably shouldn't even say this, but I
had the only reason I know who he is is
because someone sent me a video a few years ago
of him attacking me and I was like, so I'm
looking at this and I'm like, well, first of all,
this kid's really talented, like legit, and I can assess
that just having done the job for so long. So
it's like, wow, lots of talent, native talent. And he's
attacking my dad as a CIA. Is dad in a

(01:05:02):
CIA or whatever? And I'm like, well, that's no, untrue.
Then my father dies and I learn actually, yeah, you
know it was involved in that world. I was completely
shocked by it, so no one has to believe me,
but that's just a fact. This was in March of
this year, and I'm like, well, why would how the

(01:05:22):
hell would this child from Chicago and my dad was
eighty four when he passed, Like, who's this guy know
my dad is? And like he's in an intelligence How
did he know that?

Speaker 4 (01:05:32):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
So that was his critique of you was I didn't
see it?

Speaker 8 (01:05:34):
Yeah, he's like, someone just sent me this video and
it was like, you can't believe anything, Carlson says because
his father was in the CIA and he's a CIA
working bat the CI well, I mean, I think it's
pretty obvious, and I'm pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
By the way. Pause.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
The reason why Nick Point has knew this is not
because he's a CIA asset. He knew this because literally
there is a clip on the internet with Tucker Carlson,
I think when he was at CNN twenty years ago
talking about his dad being a part of CIA.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
Well, then how did he not know he's part of
the CIA until he died?

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
He did?

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
He lied?

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
He lied and there and since this interview, they have
brought up clips of Tucker Cross and twenty years ago,
twenty five however long it was on CNN talking about
his dad being involved in CIA. So you know, Tucker's
lying here. I mean, let's just state that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:24):
And I like that because it's just crazy that how
would you not know your dad was in the CIA.
There's your own dad. I get it, secret and stuff,
but yeah, surely he would know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Especially if you're someone like Tucker Cross and involved their mainstream.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Media, you know all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
But he did know, and there's a clip out there
that shows he knew twenty five years ago or more
when he was on CNN.

Speaker 1 (01:06:45):
So I just wanted to point that out.

Speaker 8 (01:06:47):
I mean, to actually feel emotional in my anger towards CIA,
and I think of that that comes out on the
air quite regularly, right, And so the idea that I'm
working for the CIA is like drained.

Speaker 7 (01:06:59):
Well, if it helps you, he said, I was I'm
funded by Russian. Now since the interview, he then did
a thing and said, I was funded by it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:03):
You would be a lot more likely to take Russian
money than I would be to work for the CIA.
You would never take Russian money and you're not Russian.
But but I mean I really hate the CIA, and
I mean I would never. I mean, that's like very
offensive to me. So why would you like personal for you?
Well a little bit, yeah, And anyway, like who is
this kid exactly? And maybe it's just an accident that

(01:07:26):
the guy goes after exclusively goes after people who are
in the same roughly the same, And then he gets
up there and he's like, you know, making Holocaust jokes,
and it's like, is it possible that this is like
David Duke. David Duke, every time I had a new show,
David Duke would endorse my show. I don't know, dud,
Who the hell is David Duke? Well, David Duke is
obviously part of a campaign to discredit people on the right, obviously,

(01:07:51):
and I think it's very obvious that Nick Foynts is
exactly the same. Doesn't mean everything he says is false.
It doesn't mean he's not talent. He's enormously talented. Doesn't
mean he's a bad person. I'm not attacking him personally,
but he is clearly part of a campaign to discredit
non crazy right voiceless.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
You know, that's obvious to me. I've been a long time.
I know when I see it. Yeah, and I will
say I I don't understand it.

Speaker 7 (01:08:14):
We were very kind to him, like I truly, like
we almost said, like we felt maybe he was a
bit lonely. We should buy him back for dinner. I mean,
that's how good of an experience I had. And yeah,
and then it was But.

Speaker 5 (01:08:26):
Chad, that's what I was saying about you when are
saying about him in the process, when Trump was actually
going to be president and they were campaigning he was
campaigning against trumph for sure, Yeah, and how he could
possibly be an asset. That's I'm just saying. I get
where Tucker's coming.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Sure, I agree, I agree. One hundred percent. I mean,
but then you look at it's like it is is
Nick Fuet has been funded well, I mean, if he
was debanked by everybody, who where the hell is the.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
Money on to babe? They can give him cash on.

Speaker 4 (01:08:58):
I know, I get it, but I just don't necessarily
know or think that's the case. And I'm not saying
I'm against Tucker. What I do know we are that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
You are so against him and now you're no, you're
kind of for him.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
No, I'm I'm not saying I'm for him.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
I'm just saying that I'm evaluating the conversations between both
these and we haven't heard Nick yet, We're about to,
and I think Nick makes a great point. Now is
that to his talent or is that to the truth
and what you're about to hear from Nick in just
a second, you guys can decide. But I do know
in this conversation at least that Tucker Crosson lied about
his dad. He knew about his dad being CI for

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twenty five plus years, so he lied about that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
And he said, I don't care if you believe it
or not. I know that for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
And then someone pulled up a clip of Tucker Cross
and said he knew his dad was see How twenty
five years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
But Tucker did make a good point that is this
guy being funded, yeah, you know, to take down people
on the right, on the same side he's supposedly on. Yeah,
because he was anti Maga, he was anti Trump when
Trump was coming into office.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
I mean, that's why I had these debates, or not debates,
but like that's why, you know, I was kind of
pretty against Nick finn Tes leading up to the election
because I felt like, if someone is an asset to
try to bring his follower base against Trump, it is
Nick fint Test.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Yes, so, and I'm not saying that's not a case
still at all. I don't know for sure Nick one
test might have just you know. And also keeping in
mind leading up to the election, Nick fuinn Tes went
to Turning Point USA event, and I think this is
where Nick foints looking back of why he decided to
vote or to try to bring his people against the Conservatives,

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because he had mentioned some things about APAC and Israel.

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
This was prior to him showing up at Turning Point
USA a couple of months before the election, he shows
up to Turning Point USA after making these comments about Israel.
He is then kicked out of Turning Point USA, turned away,
and he is forcibly removed from Turning Point USA where
Charlie Kirk and all these conservatives are. And this was
two months after he had made statements about Israel. So

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that was the reason why he was kicked out. They
did not want him there to question or say anything
about Israel, and that is why he was kicked out of.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
Turn You're saying all of them are paid assets.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
I think a lot of them are. Yeah, for sure.
I mean I think if you follow.

Speaker 5 (01:11:18):
The money, but you don't know that he's not a
paid asset.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
On the other side, I mean, what other side is it?

Speaker 5 (01:11:25):
On the left side?

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
No, I doubt that, because the left is just as
funded by Apak as anybody. There's a reason why the
left don't talk shit about Israel either.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
So it's not left, but they go against the left
is not funding get no. But you think about Gaza,
and you think about all the protests, all the college
stuff that's going on or was going on a year
ago last summer.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Let me tell you what I think that is. Do
I think that's funded protest. Absolutely, Oh yeah, do you
only tell you why? It is not to hurt Israel
as to help Israel. It is to gain and garner
support on the Israel lobby.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
Well, I don't think that's how helping them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Well I think they thought it would.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
It's helping the other side.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
No, but I think they thought Okay, So for example,
if you are funding protests BLM protest or whatever, anti police,
what typically happens with that you garner more support for police.
Right if you see these protests are like, oh my god,
look at these people going against cops and.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
This hated all this kind of like reverse psychology.

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
That absolutely saying So.

Speaker 4 (01:12:24):
Then they're going to fund people to go against Israel
and then do these things. And I'm not saying this
is true. I'm just saying it's kind of a brilliant thing.
And it's not even a brilliant thing. They've done the
shit forever.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
Yeah, it's like it's a false flag, is what it is.
I mean, we and we just don't know who is where. No,
and you can't really believe anyone.

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
But they're also doing two different things. Number One, a
lot of these protests, the anti Israel protests was helping
Israel in some ways by you know, the media picked
it up and said, look at these people anti Israel
after October seventh, can you believe this? And this was
leading up to Israel's response, right, so they wanted everybody
to get on board to Israel by looking at these liberals,
these these crazy left lunatic liberals and Antifa, all these people.

Speaker 5 (01:13:07):
A lot of these liberals, a lot of these people
were even from America.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
No, some of them weren't, but it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
They were funded and was coordinated, and so they garnered
a lot of support for Israel leading up to Israel's response.
And this is just what happens. This is how they
do shit like this, and you know, and even when
we talked to Jonathan Choe, which you know he went
to a lot of these protests, right, they did. They
kind of killed two birds one stone because they were
also at the same time signing up people for the
socialist movement, right, and so they want to bring in

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socialism to the United States, but they also want to
They're being funded regardless, and it does technically help it
did at least help Israel until everyone just didn't give
a shit about this protest anymore. And they saw past that,
and they saw like, okay, well, now you know Israel
has killed one hundred thousand plus people in Gaza. Now
they're saying they're going to take over Gaza and take

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over the land, land grab. You know, those things quickly disappear.
All those protests ship in people's minds, they quickly disappear
now and there's going to be people listening right now
they're saying, oh my god, I can't believe you're going
to get Israel. Fine, but just do some research, you know,
think about it. If we're a conspiracy podcasts, and I
don't even think this is a big conspiracy theory. I
think it's I think it's a conspiracy. I don't think

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it's a theory. And you know, there's there's tons of evidence. However,
you want to look at this that Apak extensively funds
our politics, and well you know that, and and it's
on both.

Speaker 5 (01:14:29):
I don't think they're funding the people. I guess what
you're saying is they're funding the people to wear the
black and white scarves and take over college campuses. It's
what you're kind of saying, Israel's doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Well it's not like George Well, okay, well, let's look
up real quick. Do you know who?

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
Do you know what a lot of these world leaders
religions or backing is Jewish?

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
Yeah, I know that, but I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
That Rothschild's Rockefellers.

Speaker 5 (01:14:57):
Yeah, and they go against But if you think about
George Soros, he's not a real Jewish person. He goes
against Jewish people and he doesn't know he does his
entire career. Yes, he has go look up his shit.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
Okay, Well, anyways, what I'm saying is a lot of
the same people that fund a lot of these protests
and all of this stuff. I mean, these people have
ulterior motives and they're smart about it. They're not morons.
There's a reason why they meet at builderboard groups. There's
a reason why they meet a world that coming for them.
They want to influence politics or policy based on you know,
false flags in some cases, whether that's shootings, whether that's whatever,

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whether it's protests, all of these things are utilized heavily
based on their agendas. And I'm not and some of
these things are not funded. Does thissarily like schools, like
like some shootings or whatever may not be funded. There's
always going to be some political faction that utilizes those
horrific events, but there are definitely some things that are fun.

Speaker 5 (01:15:50):
I get what you're saying is that they're reversing what
they really want to happen.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
No, but they know they knew, Like if we oppress
college kids and we get these acid protests on campus
and then we push it all over social media, all
over mainstream media, then this is going to garner a
lot of support for Israel leading up to the response.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Didn't work because for a while, are against Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Now yeah, I did for a while until the response
and until there was more and more people out there
kind of talking about it. But anyways, not to get
too much in Israel. We're going to play a couple
more minutes and then we're going to get to Nick
fin Tesla's response.

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
So it's either a it's being driven from like a
little boy in security and he just was so worried
that he like just went on the attack because he
doesn't know how to have no relations after being banned everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
I think that could be one element going on.

Speaker 7 (01:16:39):
Or it's the what you're saying where he does this,
he's lying to everybody and pretending that things are one
way when it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
I can say he's like I think Joe Kent, who
I mean?

Speaker 8 (01:16:50):
Joe Kent worked for as a CI contractor military contractors
in the US military for years fighting our Neokan wars.
His wife was killed in Syria in one of those
worst Joe Kent is the single most sincere critic and
I would say the one with the most credibility in
the United States to say this foreign policy is bad.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
It killed my wife. I was a part of it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:13):
Joe Ken is actually someone the CIA doesn't like at
all because he understands how it operates. And for Nick Fuentez,
who took some child from Chicago, who I mean to
go after him specifically? One congressional seat in Washington State
is random. It's not random, though, it's the opposite of random.
Joe Kent was number one on the list of people

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they wanted to knock off, people who believe in our
Neo Kan foreign policy. They wanted Joe Ken out because
he could stand up and say, I actually know I've
got their seats.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
My wife was killed in Syria. You had to take
that guy out.

Speaker 8 (01:17:47):
And Nick Fuentez this child, this weird little gay kid
in his basement in Chicago is participating in a super
pack to bump off Joe Kent.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
I've been around this my whole life. I know what
that is. It's all right.

Speaker 4 (01:18:02):
So there you go, gay little uh, gay little kid
in his basement. So obviously Nick Fuinnza has had to
come out and say something, and he did, and I think.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
That he made his point very clear. And listen, regardless
of what you think.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
I mean, maybe you're on Tucker's side on this, and
maybe you're on Nick fuint has a side, but let's
listen to what Nick Flint has said about about what
Tucker and Candas said. You know, I can imagine kind
of being Nick Quintez and you just got off the
Candie Owens interview. You were, I guess, maybe pissed, but
you know, Candie Owens kind of waters down.

Speaker 5 (01:18:33):
I guess somebody sit down. But she said pretty much
he was an asshole. I don't think he was coming
off as an asshole, but he was like, listen, we
are both in the same thing. You got it the
easy way. I got it the hard way. So don't
come to me about a family.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
Yeah, don't give me advice, like don't don't lecture to
me about what I should be doing right, and you know,
and so I think that's what kind of set him
off a little bit. But it wasn't like setting him
off to where he was unhinged or no.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
He was just I think this is the way he is,
and he is like forefront and he's gonna say what
he thinks.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
So here is Nick Quintes in his response.

Speaker 6 (01:19:10):
I'm being accused of being the CIA by Peter Thiel's
best Boys, by Tucker Carlson with his daddy, Tucker Carlson's
And you know what, here's the other thing. Tucker Carlson said,
I'm a weird gay kid in the basement. Yeah, and
I'm from Chicago. You're right, well, okay, you're not right

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about all of that, But I wasn't born with a
silver spoon in my mouth. Tucker Carlson says, I have
so many trust funds I never have to work. Tucker
went to a forty five thousand dollars per year private
high school, then a forty five thousand dollars per year
selective Ivy League school in New England. Tucker Carlson's daddy

(01:19:53):
was a Reagan appointee. And then after years of bragging
about being an elite, bragging about being so out of
touch and so rich, now he's going to be the
spokesperson for all the white people. Now he's going to
roll up his sleeves. I just like to hunt fish
in my log cabin. I care about Klarna in credit

(01:20:13):
card debt. But then when it comes to me, I'm
one of the real disaffected white people. You want to
talk about me and them, I am them, he says.
Nick Flents is leading all of the disaffected young white men.
I am a disaffected white, young white man. I was
a precocious, intelligent, young white college student who went to

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Boston University, who was pro Trump and red pilled by
Trump and animated by Trump's message of America First. And
I asked questions about Israel, and I was punished for it.
I did it years before Tucker Carlson started talking about
Israel last year, and I sacrificed, and I was targeted
by the ADL, by the SPLC, by the federal government,

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the conservative movement that both Candace and Tucker were a
part of. Candice and Tucker had nothing to say about
Israel until it became unavoidable last year.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Not popular, but unavoidable.

Speaker 6 (01:21:12):
And now they want a gate keep me out and
do this personality attack and say I'm a bitter loser
in my basement from Chicago.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
I'm a kid from Chicago.

Speaker 6 (01:21:23):
And they slipped up there because they forgot for one
second that they're pretending to be the spokesperson for exactly
that kind of person. Tucker's mask slipped and he forgot
for a minute that for eight years he's been pretending
to care about the plight of weird kids and their
parents' basement who are broke and didn't go to an
Ivy League school, living in cities that don't matter, like Chicago,

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not like Washington, d C. Or LA or New York.
And that's why he had such disdain and contempt for
me in that moment between the personality attacks.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
He's lonely, he's weird, he lives in a base.

Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
Meant I'm sorry, did you guys forget that that's your
target audience that you're trying to pander to. Did you
forget that for two seconds? And I'm the inauthentic person.
I am that person. I am a spokesman for the
disaffected white man because I am one and you two
are not. Canna Sowans got married to British royalty worth

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two hundred million dollars after meeting him for two weeks
on Zoom What the fuck is even that about? And
Tucker Carlson's dad ran the CIA's propaganda empire fighting the
Soviet Union.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
He went and.

Speaker 6 (01:22:36):
Fought with the contrast when he was in college. When
I was in college, I was doing a webcam show
in my friend's dorm room criticizing Israel. So who's the
CIA cutout, Who's the inauthentic one, Who's the crazy, hateful one?
I would never describe a well meaning young white person

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who's trying to get ahead as a weird kid in
his basement from Chicago. And what is that supposed to mean?
What is wrong with being from Chicago? What is wrong
with being weird? What is wrong with living in your basement?
That's a lot of people because of the problems you
claim to care about. Tucker's at Turning Point USA extolling

(01:23:20):
the predatory nature of usury and how it's preventing young
white men from getting homes, and then the week after
says you're in your mom's basement.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
So which is it?

Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Which is it?

Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
Do you care about Klarna and people going into debt
order pizza's and home ownership being impossible or do you
think that's a contemptible, low status thing to be ridiculed
and mocked. Who's pandering here exactly because that wasn't you.
You were born to the Swanson family fortune and your

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daddy who ran the CIA. You know, my dad didn't
even graduate college. My dad worked for the tollway. His
dad died of a drug overdose in the seventies. My
mother's father was a garbage man in Chicago and he
committed suicide. He was a veteran of World War Two.
Who's the CIA cutout? Who's the poser? Who is America?

(01:24:21):
I am America? Chicago is America. That's an American story.
I didn't go to Yale Law School and suck Peter
Teal's dick and then get a sinecure at a venture
capital firm, advising Rebecca Mercer and writing Hillbilly elogy and
talking about it at the Aspen Institute. That's your biographical credibility.

(01:24:42):
How many of these disaffected white people that loved Trump
because he's racist, went to Yale Law School and got
plucked out by Peter Teele, whoever he even is, Peter
Teel with his fixation with the Antichrist, this homosexual who's
involved with the CIA, who wants to live forever and
govern the world with AI. Yeah, that's really relatable. That's

(01:25:06):
really relatable. Do another show with him and Curtis Yarvin,
do another show. Do the forty seventh show with jd Vance.
It's it is insulting, and it is insulting to everybody's intelligence.
For Tucker to sit there and say he doesn't know
his dad is in the CIA. For him to say
that I'm in the CIA, what a joke, What a

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sick joke, especially after everything that's happened to me. And
unlike what canniss Owan says, she says what happened to
him when he was eighteen, what happened to me is ongoing, okay.
Unlike Canissoans and Tucker, I never got a contract with
Ben Shapiro and Rupert Murdoch. I was on Maker Support,

(01:25:51):
I was on Hatreon, I was on D Live. I
had to fight for everything I have. I didn't get
a million dollar con track from Turning Point. I didn't
get twenty million dollars from Fox News. My daddy didn't
give me a job in Arkansas.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
That is Nick Quintez's response to Tucker Crosson in canas
O onans. I mean, you know, as Tucker says, guy's
very talented.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
He is because he makes himself be one of us. Yeah,
where Candace and Tucker like are above us, you know
what I'm saying, Yeah, for sure, and he's just one
of us speaking. Yeah, you know, I don't agree with
everything is saying, but you know he's a dude from Chicago,
you know, trying to make ends meet, just like everyone

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else in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:26:38):
Yeah, and you know, he is a martyr in some way.
So he has been made a martyr.

Speaker 4 (01:26:43):
He has been made someone that he goes out speaks
things that most everyone is afraid to speak. And he
has been penalized heavily for it. And instead of kind
of turning around and saying, hey, I better start doing
the system way of doing this, he has it. He
has continued and as he said, as Cannon Sewyn says,
at eighteen, something happened to him and he's like this

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is ongoing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:05):
And he's like, by the way, you your target audience.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
Is literally me, it is the people that listen to me. Yes,
And he is one hundred percent correct. Now, whether you
agree or disagree with Nick Fuintes, I disagree with a
lot of stuff, Nick, not a lot of stuff. But
what I will say is that I disagree with some
of the ways that Nick Fuintes presents arguments.

Speaker 5 (01:27:24):
But I also think he does that for the shock
value he does.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:27:27):
Yeah, he wants to build the audience. And how do
you build an audience. You got to get a shock,
You got to get something that people want to listen
to you. And if it means doing something that's you know,
against other people's values or whatever to make them listen,
whatever it is, he's going to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 4 (01:27:45):
Yeah, I think you know, in today's world, as I've
already said before, you have to have people like Nick Fuints.

Speaker 1 (01:27:52):
You have to.

Speaker 4 (01:27:53):
If you don't have those people, if those people are
not allowed to speak, then we are headed down a
road of sin and totalitarian government. And it's not even
just government, but we're talking about world government. And when
I say this, you know, I find it interesting. Think
about one thing that Nick Fint has said in this

(01:28:13):
if there's one thing that we should take away from this,
and you've got to take away something from this. He said,
Tucker did not give a shit or say anything ever
about Israel until about a year, a year and a
half or two years.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
He's been talking about it since he was eighteen.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Yes, how long ago did Tucker Carlson get canceled off
his network?

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
Yeah, because he couldn't talk about it on it.

Speaker 4 (01:28:35):
Absolutely not when he tried to do it, and he did,
but he started.

Speaker 5 (01:28:38):
To and that's I have to bring it up again.
My brother started calling me. He's like, oh, this dude
is anti Semitic.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Yeah, but guess what he got canceled. He got ended.
But Tucker Crosson had a huge following. I mean, Carlson
was one of the biggest shows ever. And then once
he kind of stuck his neck out there and started
talking about the Israel Lobby, started talking about APEX, started
talking about the influence of Israel in the United States politics.
It wasn't long after that that Tucker got canceled. And

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so that makes a great point to this, is that,
as Linda said, I've been talking about this forever. You
just started a year and a half ago. And look
where you're at now. You're not on Fox News.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
You're in your log cabin and you're rolling back your
sleeves or of white people.

Speaker 5 (01:29:19):
But what makes a person anti Semitic? They're talking about
a government, a foreign government. Why is that anti anything?
When you're talking about the people's religion and you're talking
about their religion is bad, that's when you get to
anti Semitic in my opinion, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
Is there a terminology for anti Christian?

Speaker 6 (01:29:41):
Like?

Speaker 5 (01:29:41):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
Well, for example, like you know, we've talked about this before,
like in northern Africa, the villages of North Africa, not
just that Syria. Yeah, they're being slaughtered by either Muslims.
Well hell, for example, Israel just bombed the church in
Syria I think it was or wherever it was where
they killed a shit ton of Christians, a lot of Christians.
Is there a word for people to kill Christians? Or
is it just people that are against maybe Jewish beliefs.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
I don't know, And I are.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
There any anti Christian laws? Are there any?

Speaker 4 (01:30:12):
Is there a keyword that social or that that mainstream
media says about if you speak any way against people
that believe in Jesus. Is there a word for that,
because I don't think so. I mean there's a word
for anti Semitic.

Speaker 5 (01:30:24):
Yeah, and I know those people are being killed as well.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
Well, for sure, absolutely, But is there a word for that?
Like is there a talking point? Do you get canceled
if you talk about Christians? Like if we start bringing
up like, hey, Christians rule the world or Christians do this?

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
Do you get canceled for that?

Speaker 4 (01:30:41):
No, you don't. You let me tell you why, because
Christians don't rule the world. If they did rule.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
The world, you would be canceled for that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:48):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
I'm not saying that those people rule the world.

Speaker 5 (01:30:50):
That's because they give everything to those people. But the
Christians do, they give everything and.

Speaker 4 (01:30:57):
Cherry listen, We've had so many conversations about this, and
you know, like from a religious perspective, and we're not
going to do this on YouTube because we got two
channels going up on YouTube. We're never going to talk
about this on YouTube. We should probably do this on
this platform at some point. But I am a Christian.
I believe in Jesus. I think you believe in Jesus
as well. You're you're you're kind of on your journey.

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But but the reality is if you are a Christian.
For example, even with Candae Owans on Daily Wire where
she started saying CHRISTI is king, especially after October seventh,
that's when she got canceled.

Speaker 5 (01:31:27):
She said, Ben shaverira off.

Speaker 4 (01:31:30):
Or she pissed his ra off. I would love to see,
like I would love to just pull back the books
of Ben Shapiro as far as like his uh you know,
his tax returns and all this stuff, and see where
his money's coming from. I would love to see that.
And do you think this all coming from his podcast?
Hell no, it isn't. He's funded Ben Shamiro was absolutely funded.

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Especially if you become the main talking point of the
Jewish faith and religion and especially Israel, and then when
October seventh happens, you are the main talking point.

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
And then we can go to the copelinguye. It's the
same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
No, yeah, king, the copeland's a psycho like are you like,
do are you really bringing.

Speaker 5 (01:32:09):
Up he's a Christian and he takes in a lot
of money.

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
No, he's a Satanist, but he.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
Takes a lot of money in from Christian So the
same concept and he's a psycho.

Speaker 1 (01:32:19):
Side and he's a psycho.

Speaker 4 (01:32:22):
It's just like Ben Shapiro when during COVID he was
pushing the vaccine on everybody. He's like, oh, yeah, I
had the vaccine, and I think it's a good thing.
I think I didn't see that. No, I did not
see that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:32):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
Anybody will see that, they can go look at it.
But regardless, there's no question I think that The Daily
Wire gets funded by someone.

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
I think a lot of people get funded and we
just don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
We don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:32:44):
We don't get funded.

Speaker 1 (01:32:45):
By you guys. By the way, you guys are what
funds us at all.

Speaker 4 (01:32:48):
Like if we didn't have the commercials, we don't have funding.
Like we're not funded by Trump or Biden or Israel
or anybody. We're literally not funded by any faction enough
people at all.

Speaker 5 (01:33:01):
The only would find is just let us know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
But the reality is the only way we would ever
take fun in is if we truly believed in whatever
it was.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
Well I'm talking about like the Black Rifle coffee or something.

Speaker 4 (01:33:14):
No, I would even I wouldn't. I would not take
a sponsorship from them either.

Speaker 5 (01:33:18):
You wouldn't know.

Speaker 4 (01:33:19):
There were some of those people that went a went
against the Second Amendment, like literally the people that were
over Black Rifle Coffee Company, and some of some of
their comments and shit about like during and leading up
to election, it was like you could almost tell they
were put in place for a reason to do this
black Yeah, and so a lot of their comments is

(01:33:40):
and and everybody was starting to cancel them for a
while because they're like, oh, they're not real conservatives.

Speaker 1 (01:33:45):
There's a lot of weird shit about this.

Speaker 6 (01:33:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:47):
But yeah, So guys, let us know what you think
about this. I guess back and forth between Tucker Cralson
and Nick Fintes and even Candice Owen's who's in the
right here and whether or not you agree with Nick
Fuintz or you agree with Tucker Crawls or kennes Owans,
we want your opinion on what you believe about.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Who is actually in the right. Now.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
I will say, we're going to play this podcast episode out.
This is one of the best Nick fin test edits
that I have heard, and this is kind of putting
everything together, and it's actually an animated cartoon. I'm gonna
right now on our X repost this. So you guys,
if you want to look at it, go to our
X invest to Get Earth podcast. You'll see what I

(01:34:27):
just posted. So what you're about to hear you can
see on our X if you just go there. Also,
I do want to let everybody know we do have Instagram,
we have Facebook. We also have the YouTube channel see
free live. If we look up see free live. That
is our YouTube. We're going to start doing some YouTube
or my YouTube, but Sharey's going to have her on
YouTube soon. But over there we're going to do game
and commentary. We're gonna do all that stuff. And we

(01:34:49):
tried a livestream last night and long story, not going
to get in that, but we're going.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
To fix it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
We're going to get it right. We're going to make
sure that we do this the correct way. But I
think you're going to hear some of what you've already
heard on this podcast. In this clip is only two
minutes two minutes, but it's kind of cool how they
edited this. I think it's pretty awesome. But guys, that's
going to do it for us until next time. Here
is the edit of Nick Fuintes and Tucker Carlson in

(01:35:15):
kandae Owen's Firey Firey debate.

Speaker 8 (01:35:18):
I had a conversation with him. What did you think
of that? What do you think of him?

Speaker 7 (01:35:26):
My experience with Nick Fuentes is that he's a terrible
person and a terrible human being.

Speaker 8 (01:35:29):
But he is clearly part of a campaign to discredit
non crazy right voices.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
I can confirm he's as honest.

Speaker 8 (01:35:37):
As child this weird little gay kid in his basement
in Chicago. Young white men who've been totally cut out
of our economy. I mean, they really are the victims,
and they're desperate, and no one speaks for them. So
they go to funtest because he's like incredibly articulate, and
they think he's our leader. But in one of the
saddest ironies of all, like he's facting against your interests.

Speaker 6 (01:35:57):
Actually, But then when it comes to me, I'm one
of the real disaffected white people. You want to talk
about me and them, I am them, he says, Nick
Fentis is leading all of the disaffected young white men.

Speaker 2 (01:36:12):
I am a disaffected white young white man.

Speaker 6 (01:36:15):
I was a precocious, intelligent, young white college student who
went to Boston University who was pro Trump and red
billed by Trump and animated by Trump's message of America first,
and I asked questions about Israel, and I was punished
for it. I did it years before Tucker Carlson started
talking about Israel last year, and I sacrificed, and I

(01:36:37):
was targeted by the ADL, by the SBLC, by the
federal government, by the conservative movement that both Candice and
Tucker were a part of. He's lonely, he's weird, he
lives in a basements.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
That's a lot of people because of the problems you
plan to care about.

Speaker 6 (01:36:56):
Do you care about klarna and people going in the
deck to order pizzas and home ownership being impossible, or
do you think that's a contemptible, low status thing to
be ridiculed and mocked. What is wrong with being functioned pogo?
What is wrong with being weird? What is wrong with
living in your basement? I'm the anauthentic person.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
I am that person.

Speaker 6 (01:37:21):
I am a sports thing for the disaffected white man
because I am one and you two are not.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
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Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
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Speaker 1 (01:38:27):
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Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
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We brings off any pes until it's getting closer.

Speaker 3 (01:38:41):
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Speaker 2 (01:39:03):
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Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
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