November 9, 2021 • 30 mins
Kyle Hamilton's status is still up in the air for Saturday's matchup with UVA. The Cavaliers have their own injury issues to worry about with starting QB, Armstrong, listed as day-to-day. Reuben and Randall offer their opinions about the matchup and what it means for the Irish playoff run.
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You're listening to Irish Sports Talk.Hello, Nordame fans, Welcome to Irish
Sports Talk. This is episode sixand sixteen. I'm Rubin and I'm joined
by Randall. Randall, how's itgoing. It's going good and I don't
have hiccups this week? So,oh, so you did get rid of
them eventually? Did they just goaway the following day or did you?
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Yeah? I struggled with the restof the day and then kind of,
yeah, just went away. Definitelya side of side effect from getting wisdom
teeth pulled out. All right,Nordame comes away with a win against a
bad Navy team. But they didwhat what we expected pretty much. In
fact, we nailed the score.Nordame did score thirty four points. We
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both predicted that, but they heldthem to fewer points than either of us
predicted. And I thought I wasborderline at ten, but they ended up
holding them to only six points.So very impress impressive auting overall by Notre
Dame. Yeah, for sure.I mean it seemed like obviously had a
new defensive coordinator this year. ButMarcus Freeman has played against Navy before.
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I believe he lost Cincinnati lost themone time. But then after that they
figured out and pretty much shut himdown the next time that Marcus Freeman went
up against them. So Notre Damehas figured out how to play defense against
the triple option. They obviously changedthat up a few years ago and have
had very good success since then.And obviously Navy isn't as good as they
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used to be either, so that'sthat makes a huge difference. But just
a dominating performance by Notre Dame.I mean even to hold Navy too,
I mean one hundred and sixty sixtyyards still sounds like a lot, but
total offense was what won eighty somethinglike that because they had eighteen receiving yards,
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so they almost held them without apass. I know during the game
they mentioned that Navy the last timeNavy hadn't completed a pass. It's been
a long time since they have completeat least one pass in a game.
But well, they didn't do itthe previous week. Oh they had,
okay, or against maybe that wasagainst Notre Dame, but they were saying
it as far as I think theywere talking about how long, how many
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quarters that's been without completing a pass, And yeah, Navy doesn't complete a
lot of passes. But even thiswas it was beginning to be a very
long stretch. Yeah, So NotreDame just a dominating performance against a bad
Navy team. I feel like that'sdifferent compared to differently going a dominating formunce
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against a bad Navy team. Likea bad Navy team can still rack up
yards on you, like it doesn'tmatter who you are. They've they've they
can rack up rushing yards on you. So and Nor Dame did it without
Kyle Hamilton. And we've seen NotreDame change its defensive personnel drastically for the
Navy game. And I don't knowif Kyle Hamilton was planned to be a
heavy part of that going into itor not, but he's up in the
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air for the upcoming matchup where hereally is needed against Virginia. And I'm
ready to move on to talk aboutVirginia unless you want to talk more.
Have more to talk about with Navy. Well, a few things with Navy.
Obviously, the offense kind of sputteredin the beginning. I was I
was kind of disppointed how they startedoff against the Navy team that they should
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be able to move the ball against. But they did figure it out and
I thought they played very well.I mean Jack Cohen did a very good
job, and then Kyron Williams justcontinues to do Kyron Williams things, which
a lot of it has to dowith the offensive line. Just continues to
play better and better. And obviously, you know they should dominate against the
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smaller Navy team, but they dida very good job. And Logan Digs,
I think, really stepped it upas well. Agreed eight rushes for
fifty nine yards. I mean,they kept which by with Drew Brees.
Like I love when Drew Brees iscalling the game, like he does a
great job and anyways, but likehe even mentioned, you know, he
looked like a more experienced running back. I mean he's a freshman, but
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he looked very experienced, like thepatients he had to do what he did
and on his touchdown run where hejust kind of followed the guy into the
end zone. You know, obviouslyKyron Williams will probably be gone after this
year, but you do have ChrisTyree and Logan Diggs, and I'm not
too worried about the running backs.I mean, yeah, Kyron Williams,
you're not gonna have it's gonna bea while before you have a guy like
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Kyron Williams. But I think theseguys will do a good job taking over
for the hole that he leaves.Then the receivers, I'm I'm completely done
with Lenzy. Well, he dropsthe ball, but then he makes the
two point conversion you know, divingcatch, and then everybody's like, oh,
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you know Raydon Lenny, look whathe can do. No, he
should not be out there any more. Um just maybe just get him out
there on fourth downs and on impossibleplays. No, not even then.
But I would rather have some ofthese other guys out there instead of Chris
Tyree. I mean, he didhave three reception, but it just makes
mistakes. Um uh, I'm totallyblank. I'm looking at the receiving here.
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That's why I got confused, becauseChris Tyree had three receptions, which
they need to have Dion Colzi outthere, and they don't even have um
Lindsay listed. He's not even listedon them and listed on there, so
the two point conversion doesn't count asa reception. That is weird. I
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thought I actually saw it here asecond ago, and now I actually don't
see it. No, it's noton there, but I know it doesn't
count as a touchdown if you runin a two point conversion, but that's
weird. That doesn't even count asa reception. Yeah, but but anyway,
I agree with you if you can'trely on a guy. I mean,
I think everyone's been rooting and hopingand waiting and wanting Lindsay to take
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off and be the will fuller ofthis team the last several years. It
just never happened. Speed is noteverything. Speed does not translate to a
good football player. So I agree. These freshman receivers have been really impressive,
and I'm thankful that they've gotten theopportunity and they've produced. Yeah,
and go ahead. Oh, Iwas just gonna mention Michael Mayer. You
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know, he had four receptions twentyyard. He's been quieter, but I
feel like a lot of that isjust because he's been helping more with blocking.
I mean, he's needed to helpthis offensive line, which takes away
takes him away as a receiving threatbecause he's needed as a blocker. And
so I mean, he's really quieteddown, but I think it's because of
how much he's needed to help withthe blocking. And then obviously the big
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blow to the receiving classes. Averydavis Um did tears. Acl is out
for the rest of the year.So that's that's a tough one because even
just for him because of what agreat year he was having and the plan
was for him to go to theNFL after this year, but you know,
what does he do now because ofhow late it is in the season
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already, he'll be out for allthe Combine, the Pro Day and all
that stuff. So, you know, Brian Kelly didn't mention made a comment
about possibly coming back next year,but that would be a sixth year and
with him, he said all thosepositions switches like he would you know,
obviously it would help him as faras receiver, but the chances of getting
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hurt again, like he's gonna needto be in the best shape to make
an NFL team, and so it'sa tough blow for him. And yeah,
and he was having a really thelast two years. He had a
solid year last year and was havinga really good year this year as well.
Yeah, oh, I agree,and you know you do have obviously
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Kevin Austin has stepped up, youknow, and his obviously a big time
threat every game, but with thekind of the mess you have with Lensy
and styles and all of that.You know, you do need Avery Davis,
a consistent, a guy that's obviouslythe starter that's out there every week
making plays. But then as faras the defense, I mean, basically
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this performance, the defensive performance startedwith the interior. Kurt Hinich I mean
Kurt Heinich ten tackles, one sack, two tackles for loss. I mean
he blew up the interior and sothat caused them to have issue. I
mean that takes away a lot ofwhat Navy can do and just how quick
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he was able to get through thatline and make tackles. It just everything
started with him being able to dowhat he did on Saturday. So it
helped out. You know, thelinebackers. Obviously J D. Bertrand continues
to pile up the tackles. He'salways up there at the top. But
the defense line did a great job. And then obviously in the game he
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started seeing the freshman come in,like the young guys, you know,
Prince Collie, Cahuna Kiya coming in. So these young guys that you hadn't
really seen before had a chance tocome in and play and h see some
triple option. I guess, Idon't know if that's a good, good
or bad. But but then DrewWhite, it came out after the game
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he had actually torn his PCL beforethe game, and he still went out
there and played and powered through itand like no problem. So there's a
guy that I get. I guesswith the injury stuff. You know,
obviously, um, you know KyleHamilton being out now, the question is
is he going to come back atall? And people are saying, oh,
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no, he shouldn't and whatever.But then you have guys like Drew
that fight through the thing. Iwas a different injury injury, but like
I love his adject like, thoseare the guys you want on a team.
And I was saying about it today, you know, because I was.
Kyle Hamilton is still questionable for Saturday. And to me, Kyle Hamilton,
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whenever he's clear to go, hecan go right back out there and
make plays like it's not. He'ssuch a good football player he doesn't need
a week of prep to go outthere and play and make a difference.
I mean, look at him whenhe was a freshman yea, his first
spring training, I mean not springtraining, his first camp he was at.
He was out there making interception makingplays. So you want to say
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he had needs time to get readyfor to play football, No, he
doesn't. He came in as atrue freshman on Saturday. He'll play.
Yeah, and I think he can't. He's the type of guy that can.
UM. But what I don't likeis that, you know, people
say, oh, well, ifhe's smart, you know, Kyle Hamilton
should just shut it down, especialif he doesn't play for against Virginia,
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because after Virginia, you know,I guess whatever happens at Virginia, Well,
here's the bottom line. Nor Dame'sgonna lose if Kyle Hamilton doesn't play
against Virginia. Well we'll get tothat, um, because they're a quarterback
might not play, which means it'llbe if he doesn't, nor Dame will
easily win. Um. But justI've been before the Kyle hamp before all
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this injury stuff, I've been frustrated. I was talking with one of my
friends, just frustrated with pro sportsperiod, Like the last week, two
weeks, all this news about guysjust quitting, wanting to switch teams,
wanted being in like all this stuffand it's all about them. And I
feel it's gotten worse because now evenat college, at the college level,
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versus having these guys come out andplay for their team, for their teammates,
for the fans, for everything,they're shutting it down early because as
what it can do to their future. Like these are the guys that I
mean, I don't feel like KyleHamilton is one of those guys necessarily,
but you're doing these to these guys. Well, then they get to the
NFL and they're like, oh,I don't like this or I'm hurt,
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I don't want to risk the restof my season, so they just quit
on the team and it's all aboutfocusing on themselves and that's the advice they're
getting. They're getting advice. Youknow, people are gonna tell Kyle Hamilton
not to play because of how itwill affect his NFL career, and I
understand that, but I also thinkit's creating helping create a lot of the
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drama and stuff that goes on atthe next level at the pro level,
because there's so much focus put onthe individual themselves that they you don't have
the team, you don't do itfor the team. Anymore, it's all
about yourself and what's best for you. I hadn't really thought about this attitude
trickling into once you're into the pros. But you're right. I didn't do
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it till to day. I wasreally think about it, and I really
think it's part of it. It'snot all of it, but I do
think it's But just like I mean, if you get if you get hurt
even after even after you in theNFL, maybe it's your first year and
you get hurt, you know,you could get cut, or if it's
um you know, maybe towards theend of your contract, your team's terrible.
Uh, you know, do youreally should you really play that really
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in your best interest when you're comingup from new contract. But if you
get hurt in that last game ortwo, so I get it, it's
I understand, be completely different becausethat is a lot of money. There's
a lot on the line for thatwell. But I'm agreeing with you that
it can trickle over it. I'mjust saying because I know what people are
gonna be saying. They when theyhear hear what I say. But I
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just feel like it affects so muchof the next level. And that's why
I don't even remember Smith. Hetore his ACL in the bowl game,
and he was drafted um second round, early second round, And I think,
is he the highest paid linebacker rightnow? He wasn't one point.
Right now he's cut, but that'sbecause they paid him so much. So
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yeah, but would you rather havewhat I'm saying is as at some point
I feel like even we're just we'retalking about football, so we'll talk about
the NFL, But at some pointyou would have to look at it as
a GM and would you rather havea guy that like Drew White, that
will fight through an injury when hecan. I would see the injuries are
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different, but when he can.He had an injury and still played against
Navy. Everybody, I guarantee you, everybody said you shouldn't play against Navy.
It's not in your best entrance toplay against They don't need you.
Notre Dame will still win. Buthe's a guy that's going to out there
put it on the line for histeam, for himself, even for the
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self respect. See, I woulddo it for myself. I would have
to go out there and play.I couldn't just sit out because of that
like, I'm I have more selfpride than that, I think. But
or do you want a guy thatwill shut down his season after injury because
of what it will do to hisfuture? Yeah, I mean not taking
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the consideration the team and everything else, because Kyle guy like Kyle Hamilton makes
a huge difference on this team andin Nor Dame. But he's playing for
a playoff shot. Yeah, Iknow. I agree. It looks tough
and even if they went out,yeah, they might not make it,
but they're close enough that they couldmake it. Like it's within the realm
of possibility that they could get tothe playoff. Yeah, and if they
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lose this game, their chances areover. So if Kyle Hamilton, if
he is healthy and they're doing somemore tests, and obviously if there's a
chance that he could increase the chanceof injury by by by playing, there's
definitely a point where if you play, there's a high chance he'll hurt yourself
more. And that's not at allwhat we would or what we're expecting.
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But if he's healthy and is notendangering himself to further injury, then he
definitely needs to play. Well.I get we're using Kyle Hamilton's and I
don't think I honestly think Kyle Hamiltonwould play if they let him. I
think this is more towards the peoplegiving him the advice. Yeah, it's
not Kyle Hamilton, because I feellike in the moment, those guys probably
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want to play. They're they're competitive, they're athletes, they want to play.
It's the people telling them not tobecause of all the advice they're getting.
That's what's gonna be told. Becausethe people telling that them that are
going to benefit if they make itto the next level. So it's it's
it's it's just frustrating to me.And I thought about it even more just
because of all the drama in allpro sports right now, which is why
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I don't enjoy watching any pro sports. And if it continues on the trend
it is, it's going to keepaffecting the viewers, show those people and
to pay those players. They haveto have the viewers. But you're gonna
start losing they have been. Imean, it's the one thing that pro
sports have been going downhill, theviewers and so on. So anyways,
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that's my rant for now, Butall right, well let's talk about Virginia
We've obviously touched on it a littlebit. This team scores a lot of
points, and I didn't look atthem really that man. I looked at
who was winning, who was losing. But it caught me by surprise seeing
how proficient this offense is. Theyscore a ton of points, and you
mentioned it a few weeks for aroundthey're averaging almost forty points per game,
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almost five hundred and fifty yards ofoffense. But they're giving up over thirty
points per game and over four hundredand fifty yards of offense. So their
defense is terrible. And if whatyou're saying that their quarterback might not be
playing on Saturday, that obviously putsthe favor in towards her Dame largely.
I looked at the spread for thisgame, and it's obviously or now it's
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it's a night game at Virginia.I really was and am expecting Nor Dame
to lose this game if Kyle Hamiltondoesn't play. Now, the spread for
this game is Notre Dame is favoredby five and a half points, which
is shocking because they haven't been wellyeah, that's just that's just a shocking
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number. Unless but obviously that it'sfactored in the possibility maybe of the quarterback
not playing. Can he tell usa little more about that quarterback situation.
Well, yeah, Brennan is injury, is injured, and he's obviously day
to day right now. Um,it's he has injured ribs. So it's
a it's a rib injury, andso that's guys can fight through that.
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I feel that's one of those thingsthat they can fight through. But but
it can't affect your throwing a Yeah, for a guy that this team is
totally dependent on him, he passes. I think they average four hundred yards
passing, Like Jack Cohen has almostnineteen hundred yards passing and Armstrong has over
thirty five hundred. So now he'sthe leading passer and he basically basically has
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double the passing yards of Jack Cohen. Yeah, well he's the leading passer
in college football. So yeah,there's they need him, Virginia needs him,
and if they don't have him,I mean I don't know their quarterbacks
behind him. Wolfolk has attempted sixpasses that well, out of four quarterbacks
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behind him, they've totalled thirteen passattempts so and completed four of them.
So that would This is kind ofhow I look at I'm expecting him to
play, but I don't expect himto be one hundred percent, and so
I think Notre Dame will win ifthey this would be a very very tough
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matchup. If he was one hundredpercent and Notre Dame doesn't have Kyle Hamilton,
then I might pick Virginia to winmaybe because even though they have the
passing, they're still what is theirrecord six and three? Yeah, most
recently they lost to BYU sixty sixto forty nine, So they give up
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a lot of points. And byUS a good team, but they give
up a lot of points. Soyeah, it's I don't know if we'll
really know for sure, No hisstats for sure. I'm guessing they're gonna
keep it as day to day untilgame time just to keep Notre Dame on
their toes. Just I think it'sgonna be one of those situations. But
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I mean it just a few stats. Notre Dame has won twenty two straight
games against ACC opponents in the regularseason. Obviously they haven't they've lost the
Clemson in the postseason, but NotreDame has had good success against ACC in
the regular season sixteen of those twentytwo games have been they won by at
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least ten points, and their Damehas beat Virginia before. But this is
even that that was a miracle winwith will full Or catching the touchdown.
As did time expire on that oneor was there still some time on the
clock. I think there was stilla little bit of time, maybe a
few staff Yeah, I don't remember, but it was over when that happened.
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Um So I expect Notre Dame towin with this injury news on him.
If he plays, I don't thinkhe'll be hundred percent and nor Dame
will still win. If he doesn'tplay, this will be multi touchdown win
for Notre Dame. I think he'sgonna play. They're gonna push him to
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play, just because they have noone behind him. Yeah the night.
The nice thing about a rib injuryis that if you hit him a few
times, you can aggravate that.So so even if he even Notre Dame's
defensive line, even if he comesin and and looks healthy and looks fine,
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if Nordame can hit him a fewtimes, that definitely that could change
the game as well. Um Iguarantee he wins. Is every time he
watches Notre Dame Navy film this week. So, h all right, Notre
Dame has slowed down some some goodoffenses. They did hold USC down.
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Um, No Dame definitely let NorthCarolina's score pretty frequently scored thirty four points.
All right, Randall, I'm readyfor my score prediction. Are you
ready for years? Yeah? I'mready. All right, I'm picking uv
A to win thirty eight thirty five. I think Virginia is gonna win.
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Yeah, I mean obviously, Ithink if I'm assuming Kyle Hamilton won't play.
If Kyle Hamilton plays, and likehe said, if their quarterback doesn't
doesn't play, um, I thinkthe outton come will be different. But
if he comes in and if helooks healthy and stays in the game,
yeah, I think. I thinkVirginia is gonna win Notre Dame. I
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don't think they're gonna be able toscore enough points and their defense, their
defense has has just been giving upbig plays and giving up points in general.
And this is a team that definitelywill make it even more difficult than
normal. So I think their nameis going to score points on them.
I think they're going to score thirtyfive. I don't think they'll be able
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to score the necessary forty to winor the defense hold them down to upper
twenties. Again, assuming that Armstrongdoes play and stays in the game and
looks healthy. Yeah, well,just in the last two games which Virginia
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did have a bye week this pastyear. They didn't play this past week,
so they've had two weeks to prepare. But in the two weeks before
that, they've given up a hundredand six points. I was at to
shut out against Duke before that,but they give up so many points,
sixty six against They lost the byungave up sixty six points. They beat
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Georgia Tech and still gave up forty. So I think Notre Dame, their
offense is head in the right direction, and I think Notre Dame is still
gonna be able to score points.So if Armstrong plays, I don't think
he's gonna be one hundred percent.If he plays, I still have Notre
Dame winning forty one to twenty eight. If he doesn't play, I'm going
forty eight seventeen Notre Dame doty eightseventeen. Yeah, if he doesn't play,
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I do also think that, well, I guess we'll find out tonight
what the latest college playoff rankings are. But Notre Dame has to know that
if they want a shot, theyhave to score, they have to have
impressive wins. So I feel likethey're gonna if they're winning, I feel
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like they're going to keep trying toscore points just to make this look better.
May put a little more emphasis onthat. Notre Dame almost never does,
but I do feel like they knowthey need to score points because of
the disrespect they get from the playoffcommittee, So they need some big wins.
If they could finish out the seasonthat way, I think that that
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will make a big difference. Virginiais the last team I'll give them that
will be an impressive win of theseason. Georgia Tech, you know the
following week is three and four.Yeah, just not three and three and
six? Oh sorry, this wasfrom a few weeks ago. And then
Stanford is three and six as well, So these are bad, bad teams
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after Virginia. Yeah, well,we talked a little bit about it before
the College football playoff rankings. NotreDame was obviously ten. Last week,
two teams in front of them lost, Wake Forest lost. No longer undefeated
their number nine, so you wouldthink No. Dame shouldjump Wake Forest.
And then obviously Michigan State lost,which they were at number three, So
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who knows what will happen. ButI my feeling on the playoff rankings is
that if Notre Dame isn't in contentionfor the top four, if it isn't
obvious, they're usually either obviously inthe top four or not. And we
saw a few years ago when NotreDame was what twelfth or thirteen they played
Iowa State in a bowl game,like the disrespect they got. It feels
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like if No. Dame isn't theplayoff conversation, then they just nothing they
can do moves them up. AndI feel that's happening again. And yes
you can say, like, well, what wins do they have? But
yet the only loss they have isthe Cincinnati, which I feel Cincinnati is
once again getting disrespected because you know, they're again they're for Cincinnati. They're
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saying, well, Notre Dame isn'ta good team, and so they're to
me, that's a good win forCincinnati. But you look at Michigan State.
So Notre Dame lost to Cincinnati byeleven points against the top ranked opponent.
Michigan State just lost to an unrankedopponent by eleven points that Notre Dame
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beat and pretty so like just Ijust feel like there's so much disrespect.
Like I'm I'm actually kind of alittle tired with how this committee is,
like how it's actually ads from differentschools and stuff like, I feel like
it shouldn't be somebody connected to schoolslike or I'm not sure who it should
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be, maybe like sports writers orsomething else, not somebody with a school
with a team. Yeah, butI just like Nordain might move up one
or two spots to night, butI feel like they're getting disrespected. And
yes, they only have one loss, and I think they can go undefeated
the rest of the way, butI don't really have a lot of hope
because I don't feel like Nordain getsthe respect they need. They literally have
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to be undefeated to be up inthe top four, otherwise they're they're basically
forgotten and just thrown in there somewheredown the rankings, and nothing they can
do will change that. It wasproven a few years ago when they were
ranked twelve or was it thirteens?I forget against and played Iowa State and
just item and once again, youknow, Notre Dame didn't look good at
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the beginning, but they have beenlooking better. They're getting good wins,
so there's still a lot the onlynumber one that defends the College Football Ranking
Committee. And definitely that year,I do remember I didn't agree with where
Nordam interdupted. They were a betterteam than that. They might still have
played Iowa State, you know,the bowl game, but they were better
than what their ranking was. Yeah, and this year Nor Dame, you
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had some pretty bad wins the firsthalf of the year, but since the
Virginia Tech game the last three weeks, they really have played outplayed their opponents.
Yeah. And yeah, they havea chance to do on Saturday against
another a good opponent, unranked butgood. And those older opponents are actually
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some of them are looking better.Perdue is probably almost definitely gonna be ranked.
Wisconsin is winning. So but youknow, if Notre Dame beats Virginia
on SATA, oh Virginia wasn't thatgood. They're six and four, and
like if Virginia wins, they're like, oh, Notre Dame just isn't that
good. See, that's why wedidn't have them ranked hard like it's just
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a no win unless Notre Dame isundefeated. I feel like they just have
no shot to get there. No, I don't agree with you there.
I think they have a shot,but it definitely I mean, team makes
it much harder. Georgian Alabama stillhave to play each other Wild State in
Michigan. Yeah, so, butCincinnati needs to lose to make a spot
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for Notre Dame to jump, becauseif Cincinnati remains and defeated, Nor Dame
is not going to jump them.No, I agree, I feel like
Cincinnati should have gotten more respect.Right. They'll be interesting to see what
happens because a lot of teams thatyeah in the rankings lost on Saturday,
So I'll be curious to see whathappens later tonight. All right, that's
all that we've got. Thank guysfor listening until next time, Go Irish.
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So both the bo
You're listening to Irish Sports Talk.Hello, Nordame fans, Welcome to Irish
Sports Talk. This is episode sixand sixteen. I'm Rubin and I'm joined
by Randall. Randall, how's itgoing. It's going good and I don't
have hiccups this week? So,oh, so you did get rid of
them eventually? Did they just goaway the following day or did you?
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Yeah? I struggled with the restof the day and then kind of,
yeah, just went away. Definitelya side of side effect from getting wisdom
teeth pulled out. All right,Nordame comes away with a win against a
bad Navy team. But they didwhat what we expected pretty much. In
fact, we nailed the score.Nordame did score thirty four points. We
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both predicted that, but they heldthem to fewer points than either of us
predicted. And I thought I wasborderline at ten, but they ended up
holding them to only six points.So very impress impressive auting overall by Notre
Dame. Yeah, for sure.I mean it seemed like obviously had a
new defensive coordinator this year. ButMarcus Freeman has played against Navy before.
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I believe he lost Cincinnati lost themone time. But then after that they
figured out and pretty much shut himdown the next time that Marcus Freeman went
up against them. So Notre Damehas figured out how to play defense against
the triple option. They obviously changedthat up a few years ago and have
had very good success since then.And obviously Navy isn't as good as they
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used to be either, so that'sthat makes a huge difference. But just
a dominating performance by Notre Dame.I mean even to hold Navy too,
I mean one hundred and sixty sixtyyards still sounds like a lot, but
total offense was what won eighty somethinglike that because they had eighteen receiving yards,
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so they almost held them without apass. I know during the game
they mentioned that Navy the last timeNavy hadn't completed a pass. It's been
a long time since they have completeat least one pass in a game.
But well, they didn't do itthe previous week. Oh they had,
okay, or against maybe that wasagainst Notre Dame, but they were saying
it as far as I think theywere talking about how long, how many
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quarters that's been without completing a pass, And yeah, Navy doesn't complete a
lot of passes. But even thiswas it was beginning to be a very
long stretch. Yeah, So NotreDame just a dominating performance against a bad
Navy team. I feel like that'sdifferent compared to differently going a dominating formunce
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against a bad Navy team. Likea bad Navy team can still rack up
yards on you, like it doesn'tmatter who you are. They've they've they
can rack up rushing yards on you. So and Nor Dame did it without
Kyle Hamilton. And we've seen NotreDame change its defensive personnel drastically for the
Navy game. And I don't knowif Kyle Hamilton was planned to be a
heavy part of that going into itor not, but he's up in the
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air for the upcoming matchup where hereally is needed against Virginia. And I'm
ready to move on to talk aboutVirginia unless you want to talk more.
Have more to talk about with Navy. Well, a few things with Navy.
Obviously, the offense kind of sputteredin the beginning. I was I
was kind of disppointed how they startedoff against the Navy team that they should
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be able to move the ball against. But they did figure it out and
I thought they played very well.I mean Jack Cohen did a very good
job, and then Kyron Williams justcontinues to do Kyron Williams things, which
a lot of it has to dowith the offensive line. Just continues to
play better and better. And obviously, you know they should dominate against the
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smaller Navy team, but they dida very good job. And Logan Digs,
I think, really stepped it upas well. Agreed eight rushes for
fifty nine yards. I mean,they kept which by with Drew Brees.
Like I love when Drew Brees iscalling the game, like he does a
great job and anyways, but likehe even mentioned, you know, he
looked like a more experienced running back. I mean he's a freshman, but
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he looked very experienced, like thepatients he had to do what he did
and on his touchdown run where hejust kind of followed the guy into the
end zone. You know, obviouslyKyron Williams will probably be gone after this
year, but you do have ChrisTyree and Logan Diggs, and I'm not
too worried about the running backs.I mean, yeah, Kyron Williams,
you're not gonna have it's gonna bea while before you have a guy like
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Kyron Williams. But I think theseguys will do a good job taking over
for the hole that he leaves.Then the receivers, I'm I'm completely done
with Lenzy. Well, he dropsthe ball, but then he makes the
two point conversion you know, divingcatch, and then everybody's like, oh,
(04:54):
you know Raydon Lenny, look whathe can do. No, he
should not be out there any more. Um just maybe just get him out
there on fourth downs and on impossibleplays. No, not even then.
But I would rather have some ofthese other guys out there instead of Chris
Tyree. I mean, he didhave three reception, but it just makes
mistakes. Um uh, I'm totallyblank. I'm looking at the receiving here.
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That's why I got confused, becauseChris Tyree had three receptions, which
they need to have Dion Colzi outthere, and they don't even have um
Lindsay listed. He's not even listedon them and listed on there, so
the two point conversion doesn't count asa reception. That is weird. I
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thought I actually saw it here asecond ago, and now I actually don't
see it. No, it's noton there, but I know it doesn't
count as a touchdown if you runin a two point conversion, but that's
weird. That doesn't even count asa reception. Yeah, but but anyway,
I agree with you if you can'trely on a guy. I mean,
I think everyone's been rooting and hopingand waiting and wanting Lindsay to take
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off and be the will fuller ofthis team the last several years. It
just never happened. Speed is noteverything. Speed does not translate to a
good football player. So I agree. These freshman receivers have been really impressive,
and I'm thankful that they've gotten theopportunity and they've produced. Yeah,
and go ahead. Oh, Iwas just gonna mention Michael Mayer. You
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know, he had four receptions twentyyard. He's been quieter, but I
feel like a lot of that isjust because he's been helping more with blocking.
I mean, he's needed to helpthis offensive line, which takes away
takes him away as a receiving threatbecause he's needed as a blocker. And
so I mean, he's really quieteddown, but I think it's because of
how much he's needed to help withthe blocking. And then obviously the big
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blow to the receiving classes. Averydavis Um did tears. Acl is out
for the rest of the year.So that's that's a tough one because even
just for him because of what agreat year he was having and the plan
was for him to go to theNFL after this year, but you know,
what does he do now because ofhow late it is in the season
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already, he'll be out for allthe Combine, the Pro Day and all
that stuff. So, you know, Brian Kelly didn't mention made a comment
about possibly coming back next year,but that would be a sixth year and
with him, he said all thosepositions switches like he would you know,
obviously it would help him as faras receiver, but the chances of getting
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hurt again, like he's gonna needto be in the best shape to make
an NFL team, and so it'sa tough blow for him. And yeah,
and he was having a really thelast two years. He had a
solid year last year and was havinga really good year this year as well.
Yeah, oh, I agree,and you know you do have obviously
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Kevin Austin has stepped up, youknow, and his obviously a big time
threat every game, but with thekind of the mess you have with Lensy
and styles and all of that.You know, you do need Avery Davis,
a consistent, a guy that's obviouslythe starter that's out there every week
making plays. But then as faras the defense, I mean, basically
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this performance, the defensive performance startedwith the interior. Kurt Hinich I mean
Kurt Heinich ten tackles, one sack, two tackles for loss. I mean
he blew up the interior and sothat caused them to have issue. I
mean that takes away a lot ofwhat Navy can do and just how quick
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he was able to get through thatline and make tackles. It just everything
started with him being able to dowhat he did on Saturday. So it
helped out. You know, thelinebackers. Obviously J D. Bertrand continues
to pile up the tackles. He'salways up there at the top. But
the defense line did a great job. And then obviously in the game he
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started seeing the freshman come in,like the young guys, you know,
Prince Collie, Cahuna Kiya coming in. So these young guys that you hadn't
really seen before had a chance tocome in and play and h see some
triple option. I guess, Idon't know if that's a good, good
or bad. But but then DrewWhite, it came out after the game
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he had actually torn his PCL beforethe game, and he still went out
there and played and powered through itand like no problem. So there's a
guy that I get. I guesswith the injury stuff. You know,
obviously, um, you know KyleHamilton being out now, the question is
is he going to come back atall? And people are saying, oh,
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no, he shouldn't and whatever.But then you have guys like Drew
that fight through the thing. Iwas a different injury injury, but like
I love his adject like, thoseare the guys you want on a team.
And I was saying about it today, you know, because I was.
Kyle Hamilton is still questionable for Saturday. And to me, Kyle Hamilton,
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whenever he's clear to go, hecan go right back out there and
make plays like it's not. He'ssuch a good football player he doesn't need
a week of prep to go outthere and play and make a difference.
I mean, look at him whenhe was a freshman yea, his first
spring training, I mean not springtraining, his first camp he was at.
He was out there making interception makingplays. So you want to say
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he had needs time to get readyfor to play football, No, he
doesn't. He came in as atrue freshman on Saturday. He'll play.
Yeah, and I think he can't. He's the type of guy that can.
UM. But what I don't likeis that, you know, people
say, oh, well, ifhe's smart, you know, Kyle Hamilton
should just shut it down, especialif he doesn't play for against Virginia,
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because after Virginia, you know,I guess whatever happens at Virginia, Well,
here's the bottom line. Nor Dame'sgonna lose if Kyle Hamilton doesn't play
against Virginia. Well we'll get tothat, um, because they're a quarterback
might not play, which means it'llbe if he doesn't, nor Dame will
easily win. Um. But justI've been before the Kyle hamp before all
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this injury stuff, I've been frustrated. I was talking with one of my
friends, just frustrated with pro sportsperiod, Like the last week, two
weeks, all this news about guysjust quitting, wanting to switch teams,
wanted being in like all this stuffand it's all about them. And I
feel it's gotten worse because now evenat college, at the college level,
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versus having these guys come out andplay for their team, for their teammates,
for the fans, for everything,they're shutting it down early because as
what it can do to their future. Like these are the guys that I
mean, I don't feel like KyleHamilton is one of those guys necessarily,
but you're doing these to these guys. Well, then they get to the
NFL and they're like, oh,I don't like this or I'm hurt,
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I don't want to risk the restof my season, so they just quit
on the team and it's all aboutfocusing on themselves and that's the advice they're
getting. They're getting advice. Youknow, people are gonna tell Kyle Hamilton
not to play because of how itwill affect his NFL career, and I
understand that, but I also thinkit's creating helping create a lot of the
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drama and stuff that goes on atthe next level at the pro level,
because there's so much focus put onthe individual themselves that they you don't have
the team, you don't do itfor the team. Anymore, it's all
about yourself and what's best for you. I hadn't really thought about this attitude
trickling into once you're into the pros. But you're right. I didn't do
(12:54):
it till to day. I wasreally think about it, and I really
think it's part of it. It'snot all of it, but I do
think it's But just like I mean, if you get if you get hurt
even after even after you in theNFL, maybe it's your first year and
you get hurt, you know,you could get cut, or if it's
um you know, maybe towards theend of your contract, your team's terrible.
Uh, you know, do youreally should you really play that really
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in your best interest when you're comingup from new contract. But if you
get hurt in that last game ortwo, so I get it, it's
I understand, be completely different becausethat is a lot of money. There's
a lot on the line for thatwell. But I'm agreeing with you that
it can trickle over it. I'mjust saying because I know what people are
gonna be saying. They when theyhear hear what I say. But I
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just feel like it affects so muchof the next level. And that's why
I don't even remember Smith. Hetore his ACL in the bowl game,
and he was drafted um second round, early second round, And I think,
is he the highest paid linebacker rightnow? He wasn't one point.
Right now he's cut, but that'sbecause they paid him so much. So
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yeah, but would you rather havewhat I'm saying is as at some point
I feel like even we're just we'retalking about football, so we'll talk about
the NFL, But at some pointyou would have to look at it as
a GM and would you rather havea guy that like Drew White, that
will fight through an injury when hecan. I would see the injuries are
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different, but when he can.He had an injury and still played against
Navy. Everybody, I guarantee you, everybody said you shouldn't play against Navy.
It's not in your best entrance toplay against They don't need you.
Notre Dame will still win. Buthe's a guy that's going to out there
put it on the line for histeam, for himself, even for the
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self respect. See, I woulddo it for myself. I would have
to go out there and play.I couldn't just sit out because of that
like, I'm I have more selfpride than that, I think. But
or do you want a guy thatwill shut down his season after injury because
of what it will do to hisfuture? Yeah, I mean not taking
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the consideration the team and everything else, because Kyle guy like Kyle Hamilton makes
a huge difference on this team andin Nor Dame. But he's playing for
a playoff shot. Yeah, Iknow. I agree. It looks tough
and even if they went out,yeah, they might not make it,
but they're close enough that they couldmake it. Like it's within the realm
of possibility that they could get tothe playoff. Yeah, and if they
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lose this game, their chances areover. So if Kyle Hamilton, if
he is healthy and they're doing somemore tests, and obviously if there's a
chance that he could increase the chanceof injury by by by playing, there's
definitely a point where if you play, there's a high chance he'll hurt yourself
more. And that's not at allwhat we would or what we're expecting.
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But if he's healthy and is notendangering himself to further injury, then he
definitely needs to play. Well.I get we're using Kyle Hamilton's and I
don't think I honestly think Kyle Hamiltonwould play if they let him. I
think this is more towards the peoplegiving him the advice. Yeah, it's
not Kyle Hamilton, because I feellike in the moment, those guys probably
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want to play. They're they're competitive, they're athletes, they want to play.
It's the people telling them not tobecause of all the advice they're getting.
That's what's gonna be told. Becausethe people telling that them that are
going to benefit if they make itto the next level. So it's it's
it's it's just frustrating to me.And I thought about it even more just
because of all the drama in allpro sports right now, which is why
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I don't enjoy watching any pro sports. And if it continues on the trend
it is, it's going to keepaffecting the viewers, show those people and
to pay those players. They haveto have the viewers. But you're gonna
start losing they have been. Imean, it's the one thing that pro
sports have been going downhill, theviewers and so on. So anyways,
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that's my rant for now, Butall right, well let's talk about Virginia
We've obviously touched on it a littlebit. This team scores a lot of
points, and I didn't look atthem really that man. I looked at
who was winning, who was losing. But it caught me by surprise seeing
how proficient this offense is. Theyscore a ton of points, and you
mentioned it a few weeks for aroundthey're averaging almost forty points per game,
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almost five hundred and fifty yards ofoffense. But they're giving up over thirty
points per game and over four hundredand fifty yards of offense. So their
defense is terrible. And if whatyou're saying that their quarterback might not be
playing on Saturday, that obviously putsthe favor in towards her Dame largely.
I looked at the spread for thisgame, and it's obviously or now it's
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it's a night game at Virginia.I really was and am expecting Nor Dame
to lose this game if Kyle Hamiltondoesn't play. Now, the spread for
this game is Notre Dame is favoredby five and a half points, which
is shocking because they haven't been wellyeah, that's just that's just a shocking
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number. Unless but obviously that it'sfactored in the possibility maybe of the quarterback
not playing. Can he tell usa little more about that quarterback situation.
Well, yeah, Brennan is injury, is injured, and he's obviously day
to day right now. Um,it's he has injured ribs. So it's
a it's a rib injury, andso that's guys can fight through that.
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I feel that's one of those thingsthat they can fight through. But but
it can't affect your throwing a Yeah, for a guy that this team is
totally dependent on him, he passes. I think they average four hundred yards
passing, Like Jack Cohen has almostnineteen hundred yards passing and Armstrong has over
thirty five hundred. So now he'sthe leading passer and he basically basically has
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double the passing yards of Jack Cohen. Yeah, well he's the leading passer
in college football. So yeah,there's they need him, Virginia needs him,
and if they don't have him,I mean I don't know their quarterbacks
behind him. Wolfolk has attempted sixpasses that well, out of four quarterbacks
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behind him, they've totalled thirteen passattempts so and completed four of them.
So that would This is kind ofhow I look at I'm expecting him to
play, but I don't expect himto be one hundred percent, and so
I think Notre Dame will win ifthey this would be a very very tough
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matchup. If he was one hundredpercent and Notre Dame doesn't have Kyle Hamilton,
then I might pick Virginia to winmaybe because even though they have the
passing, they're still what is theirrecord six and three? Yeah, most
recently they lost to BYU sixty sixto forty nine, So they give up
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a lot of points. And byUS a good team, but they give
up a lot of points. Soyeah, it's I don't know if we'll
really know for sure, No hisstats for sure. I'm guessing they're gonna
keep it as day to day untilgame time just to keep Notre Dame on
their toes. Just I think it'sgonna be one of those situations. But
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I mean it just a few stats. Notre Dame has won twenty two straight
games against ACC opponents in the regularseason. Obviously they haven't they've lost the
Clemson in the postseason, but NotreDame has had good success against ACC in
the regular season sixteen of those twentytwo games have been they won by at
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least ten points, and their Damehas beat Virginia before. But this is
even that that was a miracle winwith will full Or catching the touchdown.
As did time expire on that oneor was there still some time on the
clock. I think there was stilla little bit of time, maybe a
few staff Yeah, I don't remember, but it was over when that happened.
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Um So I expect Notre Dame towin with this injury news on him.
If he plays, I don't thinkhe'll be hundred percent and nor Dame
will still win. If he doesn'tplay, this will be multi touchdown win
for Notre Dame. I think he'sgonna play. They're gonna push him to
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play, just because they have noone behind him. Yeah the night.
The nice thing about a rib injuryis that if you hit him a few
times, you can aggravate that.So so even if he even Notre Dame's
defensive line, even if he comesin and and looks healthy and looks fine,
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if Nordame can hit him a fewtimes, that definitely that could change
the game as well. Um Iguarantee he wins. Is every time he
watches Notre Dame Navy film this week. So, h all right, Notre
Dame has slowed down some some goodoffenses. They did hold USC down.
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Um, No Dame definitely let NorthCarolina's score pretty frequently scored thirty four points.
All right, Randall, I'm readyfor my score prediction. Are you
ready for years? Yeah? I'mready. All right, I'm picking uv
A to win thirty eight thirty five. I think Virginia is gonna win.
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Yeah, I mean obviously, Ithink if I'm assuming Kyle Hamilton won't play.
If Kyle Hamilton plays, and likehe said, if their quarterback doesn't
doesn't play, um, I thinkthe outton come will be different. But
if he comes in and if helooks healthy and stays in the game,
yeah, I think. I thinkVirginia is gonna win Notre Dame. I
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don't think they're gonna be able toscore enough points and their defense, their
defense has has just been giving upbig plays and giving up points in general.
And this is a team that definitelywill make it even more difficult than
normal. So I think their nameis going to score points on them.
I think they're going to score thirtyfive. I don't think they'll be able
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to score the necessary forty to winor the defense hold them down to upper
twenties. Again, assuming that Armstrongdoes play and stays in the game and
looks healthy. Yeah, well,just in the last two games which Virginia
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did have a bye week this pastyear. They didn't play this past week,
so they've had two weeks to prepare. But in the two weeks before
that, they've given up a hundredand six points. I was at to
shut out against Duke before that,but they give up so many points,
sixty six against They lost the byungave up sixty six points. They beat
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Georgia Tech and still gave up forty. So I think Notre Dame, their
offense is head in the right direction, and I think Notre Dame is still
gonna be able to score points.So if Armstrong plays, I don't think
he's gonna be one hundred percent.If he plays, I still have Notre
Dame winning forty one to twenty eight. If he doesn't play, I'm going
forty eight seventeen Notre Dame doty eightseventeen. Yeah, if he doesn't play,
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I do also think that, well, I guess we'll find out tonight
what the latest college playoff rankings are. But Notre Dame has to know that
if they want a shot, theyhave to score, they have to have
impressive wins. So I feel likethey're gonna if they're winning, I feel
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like they're going to keep trying toscore points just to make this look better.
May put a little more emphasis onthat. Notre Dame almost never does,
but I do feel like they knowthey need to score points because of
the disrespect they get from the playoffcommittee, So they need some big wins.
If they could finish out the seasonthat way, I think that that
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will make a big difference. Virginiais the last team I'll give them that
will be an impressive win of theseason. Georgia Tech, you know the
following week is three and four.Yeah, just not three and three and
six? Oh sorry, this wasfrom a few weeks ago. And then
Stanford is three and six as well, So these are bad, bad teams
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after Virginia. Yeah, well,we talked a little bit about it before
the College football playoff rankings. NotreDame was obviously ten. Last week,
two teams in front of them lost, Wake Forest lost. No longer undefeated
their number nine, so you wouldthink No. Dame shouldjump Wake Forest.
And then obviously Michigan State lost,which they were at number three, So
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who knows what will happen. ButI my feeling on the playoff rankings is
that if Notre Dame isn't in contentionfor the top four, if it isn't
obvious, they're usually either obviously inthe top four or not. And we
saw a few years ago when NotreDame was what twelfth or thirteen they played
Iowa State in a bowl game,like the disrespect they got. It feels
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like if No. Dame isn't theplayoff conversation, then they just nothing they
can do moves them up. AndI feel that's happening again. And yes
you can say, like, well, what wins do they have? But
yet the only loss they have isthe Cincinnati, which I feel Cincinnati is
once again getting disrespected because you know, they're again they're for Cincinnati. They're
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saying, well, Notre Dame isn'ta good team, and so they're to
me, that's a good win forCincinnati. But you look at Michigan State.
So Notre Dame lost to Cincinnati byeleven points against the top ranked opponent.
Michigan State just lost to an unrankedopponent by eleven points that Notre Dame
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beat and pretty so like just Ijust feel like there's so much disrespect.
Like I'm I'm actually kind of alittle tired with how this committee is,
like how it's actually ads from differentschools and stuff like, I feel like
it shouldn't be somebody connected to schoolslike or I'm not sure who it should
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be, maybe like sports writers orsomething else, not somebody with a school
with a team. Yeah, butI just like Nordain might move up one
or two spots to night, butI feel like they're getting disrespected. And
yes, they only have one loss, and I think they can go undefeated
the rest of the way, butI don't really have a lot of hope
because I don't feel like Nordain getsthe respect they need. They literally have
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to be undefeated to be up inthe top four, otherwise they're they're basically
forgotten and just thrown in there somewheredown the rankings, and nothing they can
do will change that. It wasproven a few years ago when they were
ranked twelve or was it thirteens?I forget against and played Iowa State and
just item and once again, youknow, Notre Dame didn't look good at
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the beginning, but they have beenlooking better. They're getting good wins,
so there's still a lot the onlynumber one that defends the College Football Ranking
Committee. And definitely that year,I do remember I didn't agree with where
Nordam interdupted. They were a betterteam than that. They might still have
played Iowa State, you know,the bowl game, but they were better
than what their ranking was. Yeah, and this year Nor Dame, you
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had some pretty bad wins the firsthalf of the year, but since the
Virginia Tech game the last three weeks, they really have played outplayed their opponents.
Yeah. And yeah, they havea chance to do on Saturday against
another a good opponent, unranked butgood. And those older opponents are actually
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some of them are looking better.Perdue is probably almost definitely gonna be ranked.
Wisconsin is winning. So but youknow, if Notre Dame beats Virginia
on SATA, oh Virginia wasn't thatgood. They're six and four, and
like if Virginia wins, they're like, oh, Notre Dame just isn't that
good. See, that's why wedidn't have them ranked hard like it's just
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a no win unless Notre Dame isundefeated. I feel like they just have
no shot to get there. No, I don't agree with you there.
I think they have a shot,but it definitely I mean, team makes
it much harder. Georgian Alabama stillhave to play each other Wild State in
Michigan. Yeah, so, butCincinnati needs to lose to make a spot
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for Notre Dame to jump, becauseif Cincinnati remains and defeated, Nor Dame
is not going to jump them.No, I agree, I feel like
Cincinnati should have gotten more respect.Right. They'll be interesting to see what
happens because a lot of teams thatyeah in the rankings lost on Saturday,
So I'll be curious to see whathappens later tonight. All right, that's
all that we've got. Thank guysfor listening until next time, Go Irish.
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