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June 2, 2025 65 mins

In this forward-thinking episode, I'm joined by Emmy award-winning media entrepreneur and futurist Natalie MacNeil to explore the radical transformation of money happening before our eyes. From decentralised finance to community wealth-building, we dive deep into what the future holds for how we earn, save, and invest.

The Dragonfly Metaphor

  • Richard Rudd's story of the dragonfly as a metaphor for our current financial transformation
  • Water nymphs living underwater with no concept of flying - representing our current understanding of money
  • The biological impulse to climb up and transform into something completely different
  • How we're about to experience a shift as dramatic as moving from water to flying through air

From Individual to Collective Wealth

  • The shift from individual wealth-building to community-focused financial systems
  • How AI, robotics, automation, and blockchain will converge to change everything
  • The "zero cost margin scenario" - when robots can produce almost everything for nearly free
  • Why community and focusing on "being human" becomes crucial as machines replace human labour

Decentralised Finance Revolution

  • How fiat currency is backed by trust, not gold, creating vulnerability to government money printing
  • The concept of being "your own bank" through decentralised finance
  • Smart contracts replacing traditional intermediaries like bankers and lawyers
  • Decentralised Autonomous Organisations (DAOs) returning power to communities
  • Real examples already happening: Tesla robo-taxis that can work and earn money autonomously

New Forms of Wealth Creation

  • Why future wealth won't come from jobs but from owning the machines and AI doing the work
  • Capital ownership becoming more crucial than ever
  • Examples of productive digital assets and cryptocurrency staking
  • The importance of creating a "low burn digital life" with location independence

Portfolio Allocation and Risk Management

  • Natalie's 15% crypto allocation vs traditional financial advice of 2-3%
  • The importance of age and risk tolerance in allocation decisions
  • Warning against valueless meme coins and alt coins without real utility
  • Focus on coins with genuine technology and long-term value propositions

Values-Based Investing in Digital Assets

  • Screening investments for environmental impact and sustainability
  • Using AI tools to analyse portfolio alignment with personal values
  • The concept of money as "a prayer" - investing with sacred intention
  • Gradual transition rather than wholesale portfolio changes

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