Freaky Tales (2025)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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tail got chill so well?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well? These are the tails a freaking till?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
These are the tails gott I chill so well?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
All right, this is Dick Miller.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
If you're listening to Junk Food Cinema, who are these guys?

(01:02):
Blow the whistle because it's a freaky new episode of
Chunk Food Cinema, brought to you by Get in Where
you Fit in dot Com?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Get in Where you Fit in dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Dot life is too short. This is, of course, the
weekly cult exploitation filmcast. So good it just has to
be fattening, and it's well rehearsed as you can as
you can clearly see, I am your host, Brian Salas Brandham,
joined as per usual by my friend and co host.
He is a novelist. He is a screenwriter, a LIEUTENANTI
of Mega Force, the Minister of Side Topics Sleepy see

(01:34):
Robert Cargill. Hi, how's it going, man?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
It is going.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
You're ready to break some form today. You're ready to get.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Freaky a little bit, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
We're gonna get super freaky like Rick James level freaky
this week for a number of reasons and We'll get
to that momentarily, but first the housekeeping peping. If you
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(02:06):
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you are financially supporting the show, and we greatly appreciate it. Cargill,
like I said, we're we're breaking form today, are we?

(02:29):
We are because we're covering a movie whose release date
was Hold on, let me check my notes this calendar year.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
A few months ago.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, what in the fuck? Wait a minute, Wait a minute,
hold on this. Before we've done this, Before we've done
some some patron exclusive content. We used to call it
junk Food Ala Mode, where we talk about brand new
movies that are that fit into the cannon of junk
food cinema that fit into our wheelhouse, that exemplify our
core values. But it has been a while and I
don't know the last time we've done this as a

(02:58):
main feed episode. So you know that this one had
to be damn good for us to break from tradition
and cover freaky tales. The underdog believes he can do
the impossible, defeat the bully, sell enough mixtapes to get
out of the hood.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I can say with certainty this underdog has seen his
last day.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Your wait, hold up, we gotta take it from the top.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
We got one more job for you, Sleepy Floyd Warriors
point guard. His house is gonna be empty on game.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
He's got a vault full of ancientation artifacts.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yesterday was the last job. I did it. I'm done.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
You're done.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
When we say you're done, fuck you.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
What happened next has been debating.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Over the years, But this is the tail as I know.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
It to be. I found it.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Did you see that?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's so red you don't expect it.

Speaker 5 (04:19):
Ah, I'm sleepy floors.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Boys out there slice some people up with a sword.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Can you repeat that this is as core values as
it fucking gets?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Like?

Speaker 3 (04:43):
If you it's leg it was made in a lab
for me and Brian.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
It really you know, yeah, it cargo. I gotta tell you,
I was hesitant to cover this movie, not because it
was released this year, but because for a while, I
didn't believe it was a real movie. I thought it
was a casse role of most of my very favorite
things that I mentally mixed and then willed into existence.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah. I remember texting you about this and because I've
wanted to cover it as soon as I saw it,
I wanted to cover it. And of course it's like,
I'm not gonna cover a thing that just came out
this year. Come on, and then everyone fucking ignored it
and pretended like it wasn't a real movie, that it
didn't exist. You know, people keep talking about, Oh Pedro

(05:25):
pescials in three movies is here? Fuck you, he's in
four into TV series. Fuck you. You are just paying
attention to the summer movies because he had a Spring
movie and it fucking rules and is better than the
other three. And I've seen the other three, and two
of them are damn fucking good.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
If there is one thing we are concerned about on
junk food Cinema, it is proper accounting. So get the
fucking numbers right, people.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Look, if you're gonna give someone like Pedro Pascal shit
for being in a bunch of movies, at least get
the right number of fucking movies ass whole. He is
a gift to cinema. He's a workaholic, and God bless
him for it, because not only is he doing the
big money Marvel stuff, that is only doing the big
prestige A twenty four stuff. He's doing shit like this,

(06:12):
and shit like this is why we make movies, It's
why we watch movies. It's why we love fucking movies.
This is a movie that is its own thing. You
can only kind of compare it to other movies. And
there's plenty of other things that you can definitely claim
his influences. But one thing I assure you, if you
have not seen Freaky Tales, you have never seen a

(06:34):
movie like Freaky Tales.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And these are the tales that we tell so well
within Freaky Tales, because it is in fact an anthology movie,
which is right up our alley. We love anthology movies.
But you know, from from Amicus to to you know
the VHS series to Hammer Hammer, anthologies as well, like
we just love movies that are a collection of several movies. Now,

(06:59):
but but, but this.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Is an anthology in the way that pulp fiction's and
anthology correct that all the characters are tied together. All
the characters interact in one way, shape, or form, all
of the characters are most of them are at one
given place at one given time in the movie, and
we are seeing how all of these stories play out

(07:21):
as they are woven together.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
I think anthology movies are tricky because, on the one hand,
it's tough to tell a copell.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
No, no, no. It's tricky to rock a rhyme, to rock
a rhyme that's right on time. It's tricky. This is
a freaky tale.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Episode is my recital, and I think it's very vital
to let me finish this goddamn piece before I go in,
say let's go, we go. On the one hand, it's
tough to tell a compelling story in short form. On
the other hand, it can afford the filmmakers of the
individual vignettes a lot of creative freedom. On the other
other hand, if you're asked to tie everything into one

(07:55):
overarching story or unified theme, it can be a little constrictive.
But then on the other or other other hand, fans
of this format are well aware that anthologies are almost
always a mixed bag, and as long as the ratio
of good to bad is weighted toward the former, then
you know the viewers are quite forgiving. Now, all that
being said, Cargil is right. This is more of a
pulp fiction anthology than it is something like Asylum. Right,

(08:18):
so we're dealing with a totally different animal, and this
movie is fascinating to me on a number of levels.
Like I said, I literally watched it at Cargill's behest
because true to and pursue it to how I sometimes
fuck up watching new movies. I had started to watch
this with some friends and had to leave after the
first segment was over. So all I had seen, you know,

(08:41):
by the time you were texting me about it was
just the first vignette, which is fucking awesome, don't get
me wrong, But I didn't know what any of the
rest of the movie was about.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Yeah, because if you just watched that first segment, the
what's the plot of this movie? What's it fucking about?
They already beat some Nazi ass. Oh there's more or Nazi.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Ass It's not quite as bad as the time that
I watched one cut of the Dead and the credits
rolled and I thought it was the end of the
movie and I just stopped watching. I was like, oh,
it's a lot shorter than people were making it out
to me. But okay, sure, yeah, that kind of shit.
This is how I fuck up with new movies a lot.
It's just it's just a flaw that I have. This
movie takes place in nineteen eighty seven, I believe, over

(09:23):
One Night More Values nineteen eighty seven in Oakland, a
mini city in a bay hey, fifty minutes from La Mala.
So It's directed by Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck, who
gave us Captain Marvel. They were the directing duel behind
Captain Marvel.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Gave us a lot of things, and they have one
of the weirdest, wildest fucking careers in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Freaky. You might even say they're this movie.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
This movie re centered how I think about them as
filmmakers as well. It should everyone, because they are. They
are a pair of people who ca came out of
the indie scene, and they came out of the They
they made a movie in the last gasps of the

(10:10):
high end prestige indie movie, back when you could make
a movie about fucked up suburbia and then you'd get
top tier actors and it would play all the festivals
and it would get the Oscar buzz. And they have
one of those. Their most famous of those is Half Nelson,
which Ryan Fleck directed and A. Boden produced. And then

(10:32):
from that point on they work together as a directing pair,
and they did stuff like It's kind of a Funny Story,
which is a fun little movie. And they did a
movie that we feel, I'm pretty certain you agree with me,
that is pretty underrated, Mississippi Grind with Ryan Reynolds.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
And then they got their big, big chance at making
a Marvel movie and made Captain Marvel, which I'm actually
a big fan of. It's a device film. I saw
it twice in the theater. I carry it around on
my iPad when I travel because I've always loved the
character Captain Marvel. I felt they did a great job
capturing that, and also a very nostalgic film set in

(11:13):
the nineties, like, oh, these people have some nostalgia going on. Well,
little did we know that they also have a bloody,
violent streak. They have a great sense of humor, love,
they love pop culture and pop culture references, and they
they are cut from the same cloth as us, and

(11:35):
their previous work did not hint at that at all,
And once Freaky Tails gets thrown into the mix, you
can really crystallize who these two amazing filmmakers are.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Mississippi Grind, Captain Marvel, Freaky Tails. Speaking of bringing things along,
I'm really glad that Ben Mendelsohn is just following them
around like some kind of ghost. Oh hell yeah, because
I love Ben Mendelssohn so much and he's fucking phenomenal
in this as he is an ever thing. But specifically,
we're talking about One Day Into One Night, nineteen eighty

(12:06):
seven Oakland, and this movie, I think is largely based
on Ryan Fleck's memories of growing up in Oakland in
the eighties, So it's sort of a celebration of everything
that was, you know, a pop culture and culturally significant
about Oakland at that time.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
And also brings up the little known element that Oakland
was just beset by this weird, green, glowy stuff and
people were developing psychic powers and just nobody talks about
it anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Really, it really got overshadowed, I think by the earthquake.
But this movie must take place on the same night
as the opening of Maximum Overdrive, or maybe on the
same night as the night of the comet, whatever the case,
the whole city of Oakland got that.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Glow, they got that soul glow.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
They've got the power of elevation, is what we're trying
to say. For sure. It's everything is green. And the
opening narration explains this. Now, the opening narration and his
part and parcel with one of I think the most
fascinating things about this movie because I know that Ryan
Fleck grew up in Oakland without you having to tell
me that Ryan Fleck grew up in Oakland, because the

(13:11):
opening of this movie is narrated by Rapper Too Short.

Speaker 6 (13:15):
Oakland in eighty seven was hella wow people, the culture.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
The music.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
Looking back on it must have had something to do
with that bright green glow.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Hell, yes it is.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
When I say the opening of the movie is narrated
by a Too Short, the entire film is secretly built
around Bay Area rapper Too Short.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yes, the title comes from one of his most famous tracks.
There's references Pepper throughout. Somebody plays him in the movie.
He appears in the movie not as himself, like he
is this. This is a too short movie. I've heard
many people complain, Man, it's a great movie, but it's
got the worst title. And it's like, not if you

(13:57):
know the origin. It's a rad ass title. It is
a title for those of us that came out of
the fucking eighties. Motherfucker. That is what Freaky Tails is.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Go see Freaky Tails if you won yourself a good time.
The movie's too short. I ain't talking about the runtime.
Listen what I'm trying to tell you. I channeled my
innermost Scott Weinberg for that. I feel ver there you got.
I was like, yeah, how dare you look? When I
said this movie is a cast role of some of

(14:27):
the most favorite things, I meant it. It's got a
little bit of the Showtime Lakers, it's got a lot
of West Coast hip hop. It's got video stories, it's
got violent revenge, it's got Bruce Lee references. It's got
Oakland sports history like the thirty for thirty episodes straight
out of La To Like. I was calling upon that
as I was watching this. It's got Nazi killing, it's

(14:47):
got mixtapes, it's got Fat Pat, it's got Tom Hanks.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
It's got it's got Pedro Pascal and Ben Mendelssohn.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
It's got so many things that interest me that like
I Sai. When I first watched this movie, it was
late at night. When I've watched it all the way through,
I was convinced I was dreaming this shit. I was like,
there is no way that anyone could have made a
movie this perfect for me unless it was me subconsciously, Like,
it's incredible how many of my buttons this movie hits.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
But the thing, the thing that hit me the same
way was I can't believe this movie exists and no
one else is fucking talking about it, Like this is
exactly the movie the Mondo poster owning scene should be
screaming at the top of our lungs about But for
some reason or not.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
Yeah, I don't understand that at all. I guess it's
up to us, Cargill, the charge has fallen to us,
and we will take that charge up immediately. Uh, but
you have my acts and you have my turntables. Look,
I am rarely hooked into a movie by the opening credits.
Freaky Tales is a movie that won me over with

(15:59):
its opening credit, like and I'm not even gonna say
anything about the vh's tracking marks on the studio logos.
The opening credits feel like they were developed by Vesturan
and not like old school restaurant and I'm just watching
the shit, like, okay, I'm already on board. Let's see
where we go. And then we get this reference to sytopics.
Don't know what that is, can't wait to hear more

(16:19):
about that, and we get our first taste of the
movie's theme song, which of course is Freaky Tales by
two short off of his fourth album Born to Mac.
These are the tales, the Freaky tales. These are the
tales that I tell so well. And let's tell those
tales now. As we break down the chapters and the
anthology that is Freaky Tales.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Chapter one Strengthen Numbers aka The Gilman strikes Back.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Chapter the first Strength in Numbers aka The Gillman strikes Back.
This is my well, God, I hesitate to I hesitate
to say this is my favorite segment because that last
one is so good.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
The segment four is is like everything, Oh man, It's
just like everything.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
Okay, we're gonna call this my second favorite chapter.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
My take on this is, do you have to have
a favorite.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Normally you do cargil. Normally with an anthology movie, you
absolutely do.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, but that's when that's when you have multiple directors
doing their take, like that kind of anthology film. The
reason why I put this more with a pulp fiction
than I do a VHS, you know, having made a VHS,
is that each director and creative team we're off making
our own segment and making our thing, and we're not
We may talk with other directors and like we work

(17:41):
out how maybe it can work together and share ideas.
That certainly happened on VHS eighty five, but this is
two creative geniuses going all out and telling all of
these stories that we together in their own way. And yeah,
you'll you'll have your favorite, having anything be your favorite

(18:02):
beyond the fourth one, I don't know. I don't know
what to tell you that that segment goes so fucking hard.
It may be my favorite twenty minutes of film of
twenty twenty five, and I literally put out two films
of my own. So like, I am all in on
segment four because it is the perfect way to sum

(18:22):
up this amazing film with all these great sequences. But
this movie starts off fucking strong.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
It really does. And by the way, kudos to you.
I know your therapist has been telling you to stop
putting your own movies on the best of the Year list,
and you're you're really making strides in that area, Cargil,
and I'm proud of you. I see you. But yeah, no,
that's why I put on the verbal emergency break when
I started to call this my favorite segment, because you're right,
nothing is gonna top the fourth one. But this is
strength in numbers aka The Gillman Strikes Back. Is basically

(18:51):
punk rockers versus Nazis. And when I say basically, I
mean it's entirely that. However, I love the fact that
for the first couple of vignettes, the framing device is
people coming out of a screening of The Lost Boys,
m like, let's fucking go, and everybody having the same
complaint about the movie, which is if the granddad, and
this is something I never thought about before, the grand

(19:13):
If the granddad knew there were vampires the entire time,
why the fuck didn't he say anything until the end
of the movie, and I was like, holy shit, I
have never once thought about that.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Oh god, I have. I thought that was that's the
hilarious punchline to the movie that he's known all along.
He doesn't mention it because, well, of course everybody knows
there's too many fucking vampires and Sandymus.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
You might want to clue your family in if they're
spending their evenings underneath the boardwalk and Santa Carla, just
the thought maybe broach the topic of knowing that there
are fucking vampires in the town. Grandpa, I know you're
eating your peanut butter boppers, a discontinued snack food that
I really want to get my hands on if they
ever bring it back, and not really paying attention, and

(19:53):
you're banging widows. But you really need to you need
to lock in with your family just a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
I feel like we've just dialed in on something that
people need to understand about you, which is you never
really thought about the the white it and Grampa tell anybody,
but you've spent a lot of time thinking about his
discontinued junk food.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, in his shelf of the of the refrigerator, there
are peanut butter boppers, which is Look, I'm not going
to go into the history of the peanut butter boppers.
All I'm going to tell you is that the idea
of taking basically chocolate and cookies and molding them around
a peanut butter core sounds like the greatest invention next
to I don't know, movable type. But apparently I'm the
only one who thinks this because they were discontinued and
never brought back, which is a travesty on par with

(20:35):
you know what. I'm not even going to go into that.
The point is they're coming out of his screening of
the Lost Points.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
That is the point.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
That is the point. And there, you know, we have
these punks who go to their club and you know,
this is the place where they, you know, have found
community and they feel at peace, and they're constantly being
harassed by these fucking skinheads and the Nazis come in
and trash one of the concerts. Now, the two main
characters in this particular segment are Tina and uh what

(21:05):
Lucid Lucid to it Tina and Lucid. Tina is played
by Jing Yung, who who is currently I think making
the most money ever, because she's also in K pop
Demon Hunters. Uh, so he's got that going for it,
which is nice. I don't know if you guys have
heard about this, but that movie is making all of
the money, just simply all of it.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
It's yeah, it's it's the biggest thing going on right now.
It's it's been impossible to go anywhere in media or
social media and not be hearing about that.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
This is true. And then Jack Champion playing Lucid and
they are, you know, this adorable, like you know, pseudo couple.
They like to go to this club together, but they're
always being harassed by these fucking Nazis. God damn it.
These Nazis come in and they mess up the concert,
they beat up some people, and then they take off
and it you know, these punks are pacifists. These punks

(21:55):
are just here to listen to music and you know,
enjoy their time and not you know, not have to
deal with all of these fucking Nazis. So the question
becomes what do we do because these guys aren't going
to leave us alone. It looks like we're gonna have
to fight. And I have to say something right up
top here. The band that plays at the club. Is
apparently a real LA band called Gulch. Is it just

(22:17):
me or did their sound remind you a lot of
the band Fear?

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Well, if I'm if I'm not mistaken, they're supposed to
be playing Operation IVY, Like that's the gimmick, is that
they've got a current Oakland band pretending to be a
classic band Operation IVY, who is huge on the scene
back in the day. And of course they would. Operation

(22:43):
IDV and Fear are cut from the same cloth. They're
the same era, they're the same kind of punks, So
that would not shock me that you read it that way.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Well, Fear is just the it's the distinctive sound of
the singer that reminded me so much of Leaving. And
I'll admit I don't have a lot of it's bosure
to punk bands of this era, but Fear is one
I've actually seen in concert. Yeah, thank you, please make
me a mixtape. But Fear is one that I've actually
seen in concert. I saw them a couple of years
ago at Riot Fest in Chicago, and lee Ving can

(23:13):
still fucking get it, man, that dude is awesome, Like
he just got out there. Yeah, he's he's got to
be in his seventies now, and he just gets up
there and doesn't and then he ends every song by
saying Merry Christmas. Like he's just fucking great. I love
him so much, you know, we we've known him from
movies like Dudes and Clue and a number of other
like the dude just just fucking rad and it made
me happy to be able to see him on stage

(23:34):
a couple of years ago. Uh, but that's just who
this band Gultch reminded me of. Also a running theme
throughout the first couple of segments here are multiple references
to Tom Hanks, which makes sense because by nineteen eighty seven,
Tom Hanks is blowing the fuck up like he is
becoming a superstar. But just all these lines like, uh,

(23:54):
did you know the guy from Splash used to sell
hot dogs at A's games.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I shook him down in the parking lot once, pretty
sure it was him.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah, it's like I don't know what splashes? Oh, you
know the guy from Bachelor Party? Do I look like
someone who would watch Bachelor Party? Like so many conversations
about Tom Hanks without using the words Tom Hanks, which
I thought was really funny.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
And that tease up one of the best gags in
the movie.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Oh we'll fucking get there, don't you fucking worry about it.
It's gonna be a big surprise when we get there,
Don't you worry about it. When they decide that they're
gonna take on the Nazis, they know the Nazis are
gonna be back, They're gonna take them on. The training
gearing up montage set to punk music was so goddamn choice.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Again, this is this whole movie's our catnip. Do you
like needle drops, Cause this movie's got needle drops and
they're fucking great.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
It's got needle drops upon needle drops. I also thought
it was funny that the punks are gearing up and
doing like this, like we are making weapons out of
anything we could find. We've got spiked gauntlets going on,
like we're really like rough and tumble. And meanwhile, the
Nazis are rallying at a fairly quaint little house in
the hills before rolling out to commit hate crimes. They're

(25:03):
kind of gathering on what looks like your den mother's
house from the late eighties, Like, what the fuck is
happening here?

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, no, it says a lot about where this it
where the culture was at the time, Like there's when
you walk into the club, it's got a bunch of
rules and it's you know, first off, no racism, no bigotry,
no sexism, you know, no drugs, no alcohol, and if

(25:29):
you know the scene from that time, this is a
straight edge club. Yeah, this was straight edge Punk was
a very real movement and it was very much like
we love this music, but our active rebellion doesn't have
to mean being hateful or doesn't have to mean destroying
our bodies with drugs and alcohol. And in fact, you know,

(25:52):
my wife Jess used to go to a bunch of
straight edge shows because she had a bunch of friends
that were in the straight edge scene. So they'd be like,
come after the show, and so she always be going
out to some straight edge show and she wasn't particularly
straight edge, but you know, the music was good. It
was you know, straight edge. Straight edge punk is kind
of like if Christian music didn't suck dick through a straw, Like, hey,

(26:17):
do you like being a good person? Yeah? Do you
like good music?

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (26:21):
Well too bad?

Speaker 2 (26:22):
You need cargill I lift you up for that. Joke,
I lift you.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Up, Lift me up.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
You know, by the way, I thought straight edge punk
was named Phil Brooks. But I guess I don't understand
what's going on. Wrestling jokes, Ask your parents. Oh my god.
At this point, that's an ask your parents, and he's
still fucking wrestling. Oh my god. Yeah, I don't know
how to deal with any of this.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
No you don't, No, you don't. But yeah, so so yeah,
So a bunch of punks who come from the suburbs
because they you know, who are they're throwing on, uh,
skinhead aesthetic because they're just being that uh, decided to
go and and mess with all the the kids of
color and the queer kids down at the punk club, uh,

(27:12):
because they're seeing that as faux punk. This was a
very real thing in the eighties.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
There's a lot of deep dives you can do looking
into this. But punk culture had a schism where they
threw out the skinheads, and the skinheads were very upset
about it because, well, we're real punk, and the real
punks were like, nore, you're fucking you don't fucking get punk.
You know. Punk came from a very leftist place and

(27:39):
a lot of in a lot of areas. You know,
it was a rebellion against the establishment, and you know
this whole we're dealing with the same kind of stuff now.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
The skinheads of the eighties were just the alt right
kids of that day and uh, and nobody liked them
then either. So, yeah, these guys are coming to fuck
with the kids, you know at the punk club because
you know what, they don't push back, they don't fight.
There's no violence allowed in the club. So when they
show up there, just beat the shit out of people.
And that's exactly what they want to do, and so

(28:12):
that's what they do. And then the punks are like,
you know what, We're not gonna take it anymore. Let's
beat some mass.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yeah. They're pacifist by nature, which is why they have
this great scene where they're discussing what their options are.
And when they finally decide that they're gonna fight, the
one guy who's been like, you know, that's not who
we are. We really can't do that, you know, and
everyone else votes to fight, he just looks around and goes, so,
now I'm the guy who didn't want to fight the Nazis.
Fuck that, and he raises his hand so it's unanimous.
I love that.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah. And then and then we get a Nazi ass
beating scene.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
You know, it's twenty twenty five, and I'm just gonna say,
God damn, did I love watching Nazi scumbags get murked
in this movie.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
And they go they go all in. You can tell
that there's a there's a certain thing that happens as
a creative, especially as a writer, when you have this
immense amount of anger in you and frustration about everything
else going on in the world, and you just go,
I'm going to put that in a script or I'm
going to put that in a book. I have a

(29:13):
story like that in Hunted Reels Too, which just came out,
which was just written over a several hour period of
me just being real fucking angry about everything going on
in the world and just being like, well, I can't
do anything more about it than I've already done. I'm
just going to put some ass beating out into the world.

(29:34):
And that feels like what they did here that Ryan
Fleck and Anna Boden was just like, we are so
pissed at the state of the world and everything going on,
we just wish we could fuck up the people, So
we're going to fuck up the fictional versions of them
and fly the middle finger at their their pussy fucking asses,
and boy, howdy.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Do they There is a Nazi on fire at one point,
and I I love that.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
I do love Nazi flombay. It is my favorite dessert.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I believe that's called Wiener Schnitzel if I if I'm
not mistaken.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
To the internet kids who will get this, it's called
baked Baked Alaska.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah. See, I don't get that one.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
But there's somebody out there's laughing, going, oh, fuck curryel
knows who Baked Alaska is. And fuck that guy.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
He is a proud He's proud fried, this particular guy.
And I appreciate that as much as I appreciate when, uh,
when Tina's spiked gauntlet hits that one Nazi in the
juggular and it bursts open like a caprice hun pouch.
Oh holy lord.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yes, Like, if you guys haven't gotten it yet, this
movie has made for you. And if you haven't seen
it yet, that was a great time to pause and
be like, all right, all right, you fucking sold me.
And you've just heard about the first act of the movie. Uh,
and you have three more unspoiled stories to go. But
dear God people, holy shit, Yes, that moment is great

(31:01):
and the callback to that moment that will happen later.
H This movie again is as an anthology film weaves
itself together, and so there's so much set off and payoff,
set up and payoff through this whole thing. It is
just so expertly set up. And yeah, this Nazi scene,
it is a great amuse booshe for the film that

(31:21):
is to come.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You can kind of understand how after walking away, after
just seeing this segment, I was still pretty satisfied.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Yeah. No, and you're like, oh, yeah, I should catch
up with the rest of that movie. I don't know
what it's about, but I should catch up.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Wait, Monarch shows up.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Fuck, I should have stayed the Monarch.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Look back in previous episodes for when I fucked up
watching Skull Island. Look, it's not important.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
After these messages, we'll be right back. Good old creemyand
Butter is gone.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
Gone crazy with chips all rolls up and crisp Pea.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
But it's creeny Peanut, butter a crispy goading and a
whole lot more Peanut Butter's Gotten Boppers Peanut Butter Boppers
Neal from Nature.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
Valley Chapter two, Don't Fight.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
The Filly chapter the second Don't Fight the Feeling, which
is named, of course, after a two short song. And
this is where we under we really start to understand
the difference between a typical anthology and something like this,
because if this were a typical anthology, this might be
considered the weakest of the segments only in the sense

(32:41):
that there's not a lot of nobody does Nobody does,
It's not a lot of plot that happens, and it
doesn't tie in as much to the overall narrative tapestry.
But that being said, what this does is it allows
us to develop some characters and spend some time in
the culture of Oakland, which is I mean, this is
a cliche of a cliche, but Oakland itself, like nineteen

(33:01):
eighty seven, Oakland is its own character in this movie.
So what we're doing is we're getting to know that
character with this. This is I think also a further
tribute to Too Short, around whom this whole movie is
quietly completely built, and I really like this. This is
about two female rappers who are trying to break into

(33:22):
the business and they meet a guy who works with
Too Short. Again too Short in this movie, but not
played by Too Short, who is also in this movie.
That is gonna get more and more confusing the more
we say it. This group danger Zone, which is Entice
and Barbie. Entice is played by Normani who is a
musical artist herself. She's a member of Fifth Harmony. And
then you have Barbie who's played by Dominique Thorn, and

(33:44):
the two of them are playing a real rap group
called danger Zone and they meet somebody who knows Too
Short who works with him, and they get invited to
perform at this club. And at the club, Too Short
decides he wants to do a rap battle, so they're
not gonna get a feature. They're actually have to battle him. Now,
what's amazing is that this rap battle is this rat

(34:08):
battle is actually based on a real song by Too
Short where he basically rap battles against danger Zone and
they get name dropped in the song. So this is
basically sort of just an origin story for that particular
Too Short song, which is awesome, and I think the
two leads are very compelling, which is why there doesn't

(34:29):
have to be a lot of plot in this particular segment,
which the whole I'm Sorry, and the song is called
Don't Fight the Feeling. I don't know why I didn't
tie that in together two short songs, Don't Fight the
Feeling featuring danger Zone from the album Life is Too Short.
So that's what we're doing here, is we're seeing the
origin of that song. But also this is the segment

(34:51):
that introduces us to the guy. The Guy, and I
feel like, even if that wasn't his character's name in
this movie, I would still refer to Ben Mendelssohn general
as the Guy.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
He's the guy.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
He's the guy. He's a reprehensible cop who is both
racist and lascivious and just creepy all around.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
And like asshole racist. Like the beauty of Ben Mendelssohn's
character in this movie is he's shitty all around in
all the ways that these racist kind of characters are.
He's got a partner who's a black cop, and he
just doesn't get an ice cream and claims they were
out of his favorite flavor and just clearly didn't and

(35:34):
he does it just to be an ass and then
he's in there harassing the women knowing he can't. He
can get away with it and not get any pushback whatsoever.
And he's just doing it for the fucking power trip
of it, and it's so pathetic. It's that pathetic kind
of racism that is just really like nails on a chalkboard. Boy,

(36:00):
I hope something bad happens to him.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
You sure do, don't you. By the way that that
partner you mentioned, it's funny you mentioned him because in
this segment, the character of Too Short is played by
another rapper named Simba. The partner that you just mentioned
is played by the actual Too Short, And there's a
great little nod here when he tells him like, oh
they were out of Rocky Road. Oh you didn't think

(36:23):
I wanted any other ice cream? Nope, And he just
leans over almost a camera and says, bitch, what's his
favorite word? Wait? This is what fucking sidebar. This is
one of my favorite things about listening to rap is

(36:44):
that you start to hear these lead up catch phrases
before guys start spitting rhymes like you hear this, especially
on Features, and it's almost like an audio calling card
to let you know it's there. Turn on the mic
like it definitely works on me. I get excited when
I hear my favorite are about to drop in. Like
two of my favorite rappers right now are asap Ferg

(37:05):
and Big X the Plug, And both of those guys
they are very real names. Big X the Plug I believe,
was the original name for McDonald's Grimace, but they decided
to change it and just call him.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
I a friend bought me that as a gag gift
one time, and I have not used it.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Sure, sure someone bought you the Grimace butt plug is
a gag gift, and sure you haven't used it. These
are all things I believe as much as you believe
that Big X the Plug is a real rapper. He is.
He's out of Dallas. But both of these guys have
super distinctive lead in sounds, Like when asap Ferg's about
to come in on a feature, he's just about to
start one of his songs, you hear him go go good.

(37:42):
It's like, okay, now I know acep Ferg is about
to rap. And then anytime Big X the Plug is
about to drop rymes, he goes hey. So it's like
you know before they start. It's almost like the way
you and I will see studio logos and know exactly
what type of movie that we're in store for. It's
like that. It's like an auditory version of that, and
I fucking love it. And too Short has one two

(38:02):
shorts is basically the word bitch, but you gotta say
it like he does, which is bach. And he said
that he says that in almost every fucking track, and
in fact, his first album was one of the very
first to use the word bitch in in in rap,
which has both redefined rap and kick started a long,
difficult discussion about the relationship between the genre and misogyny

(38:24):
that I fully acknowledged. But that being said, when he
calls Ben Mendelssoon bach, it's a fucking nod to the
fact that that is his favorite word. Literally, in the
song Blow of the Whistle, he says, what's my favorite word?
Why gotta say it like that's that's his calling garden,
And I think it's fucking funny that he calls Ben
Mendelssoon a bitch stargrove. Oh yeah, there's gonna be a

(38:49):
lot of uh, probably rap sidebars on this. I apologize.
This is like I fuck again. This movie feels like
it was custom made for me, and I'm super fucking
excited about that. But Too Short the Rapper, you know,
when they're getting into this battle that's basically don't fight
the feeling featuring danger Zone. One of the things you
have to understand about Too Short the Artist is that

(39:10):
that dude his songs are almost exclusively about fucking like
he was. He was very influential in West Coast rap
and he's one of the you know, the first guys
to really break that out. At the same time, his
lyrics are on par with something like Two Live Crew,
where I feel like his beats were absolutely fucking incredible
in the early days. His lyrics in the early days

(39:32):
were basically like, you're not gonna believe that I'm gonna
say this shit on the microphone, and it was and
it was that it was almost like a weird mixture
of Two Live Crew and Andrew dice Clay. The lyrics
they would actually spit on his records, and.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
Which is why he crossed over into the edge Lord Whiteset,
which is how I knew.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
About Well there you go, Okay, I was.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
That teenager listening to all the stuff that I was
not supposed to be listening to and you had two,
you had you had you kind of had like three
divergent things happening in in rap and hip hop at
the time. And you had what would become gangster rap,
which is, you know, very angry and very political. And

(40:13):
you had some great ones in there, like Public Enemy
that were were uh, you know, vanguards and that uh
that bit. You had the people like LLL cool J
and UH and cool Mod who were much more mainstream wrappers.
You know, they had you know a mix of accessible
stuff in there, but but talked about the streets still

(40:33):
and and and you know, ventured into the into the
the more violence heavy, uh side of it, but still
were accessible enough, uh for white audiences at that time.
And then you had what was happening with two live crew,
Too Short and Digital Underground, which was it was all

(40:56):
sex all the time, and you listened to them because
they were rad and were fucking hilarious, and Too Short
was in that.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Set basically where they were just writing rhymes that were
intended to turn Tipper Gore's hair white. Yes, think that
was the entire thing that they were trying to do.
Like Too Short literally has a track of one of
his albums. I think it's get in where you fit
in called blowjob Betty. That's just a track.

Speaker 3 (41:21):
The number of times you've done that to me. You
had that coming.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I'm just sorry I didn't think of it first. Look. Uh,
the song is about he knew this girl that was
so good at giving head. He didn't understand why she
wasn't charging for it, so he basically turns her out.
Like Look, the guy was in actual porn at one
point in his career. This is something that needs to
be addressed. He was an actual porn and his lyrics

(41:46):
were just about you know, how outrageous can I be?
And it really wasn't until because he lived for a
little while at least in Atlanta. So he moves from
uh from Oakland, from the Bay Area to Atlanta for
a little while, and if you know anything about rap,
I kind of feel, at least in my opinion, the
three ultimate mecchas of rap are New York, LA and Atlanta.

(42:08):
Like those are like the three hottest of hot spots
for rap. And so he developed the ability to go
from you know, I'm just gonna say these outrageous things too,
I'm gonna do wrap. That's a little bit more hype.
You know, they don't say they don't say crunk in
the Bay Area, they say hyphie. So it's he's he's
doing stuff that's more hyphie at that point, and that's
when we get stuff like blow the Whistle. But anyway,

(42:30):
I'm sorry when it comes to two short and old
school rap, I go on and on. So I will
bring it back to this actual segment because one of
the things we haven't mentioned yet is that this green energy,
this green mist in the sky, this aura around Oakland
on this night, that is addressed in the opening narration.
We see it crop up in every segment. So in

(42:52):
the Nazi fight, as you know, as Tina is about
to really like strike a death blow on one of
the Nazis, you see the green kind of flow through
her gauntlet. And in this segment, you know it's entice.
When she picks up the microphone, she's a little bit nervous,
but then when she finally like you see green energy
go through that microphone, and then you know, she and
Barbie start killing it and really giving it back to

(43:12):
too Short. The entire time, this energy that's flowing through
the city on this night makes an appearance in every
single segment, culminating in the fourth and we'll definitely get there.
But you know, I love that that danger zone is
able to you know, smon the courage. They they essentially
win this rap battle, they earn the respect. They're just
having the night of their lives. And they go to

(43:34):
go home and they go to get on the bus.
Cargil who is driving the fucking bus. Marshawn mother fucking Lynch,
Beast Mode himself is driving that bush into the sky.
I did not think this movie could get any more Oakland.

(43:55):
I thought this.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
Text you texted me the minute that happened, and I
was like, Oh, we're definitely covering this now.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Dude, Now we got the NFL involved, Now we got
fucking professional football involve Can I can you understand why
I felt like this wasn't a real movie When Marshawn
Lynch shows up, When Beast Mode shows up, and I'm
assuming he's just driving one giant lime green skittle because
that's the color of the bus. Either that or he's
in the movie repo. Man, I don't know what happens,
but he flies that motherfucker into the sky. I did

(44:23):
not think at this point that Freaky Tails could be
any more Oakland. At this point, I thought the movie
was already as Oakland as Al Davis's eyeglasses. I thought
it was as Oakland as Jose con Seko's probably tainted bat.
I thought that this movie was as Oakland as Fernando
Vealezuela's jockstrap. And yet here is Marshawn Lynch, who is

(44:44):
not only one of the greatest running backs in the
history of the NFL, but a native of Oakland and
went to Oakland Technical High School and then played his
college football at CAL. Like, this movie is the most
Oakland shit I've ever seen. Yeah, it's more Oakland. And
the Raiders who started in Oakland went to LA and
moved back to Oakland, and this movie is still more

(45:05):
Oakland than that. I love it. I'm so happy I'm
watching this movie. I'm so and We're only through the
second fucking vignette here, and I'm already like hell to
the Yes, let's.

Speaker 3 (45:16):
Get We're already forty five minutes in. Let's go.

Speaker 8 (45:20):
Third Chapter Born Mac Chapter, the third Born to Mac,
which is of course the name of two shorts fourth album,
Welcome to the Movie, Pedro Pascal.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
And the reason most people gave this movie a spin
was like, because oh I love Pedro Pascal.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
This is basically too short featuring Pedro Pascal is how
this movie should be described. Yes, And when I say
welcome to the movie Pedro Pascal, a lot of people
know that I should be saying welcome home, Daddy, because
this dude is beloved of the Internet, like beloved of
a thirsty Internet, like nothing I've ever seen, like Way
to Go Pedro.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
And he's in a segment that is straight out of
a Tarantino movie.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Oh hell yeah, Like we meet him in a phone
booth as he's finding out that his wife has died
but their baby is clinging to life. That's where he
comes into this movie. And then let's Tarantino it. Let's
go back twenty four hours and it's Pedro and his
wife sitting outside of what cargil sitting outside of what establishment.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
A video store?

Speaker 2 (46:20):
A mom and pop flicking video store. Cargil is where,
and they're deciding which movie to watch and they start
bouncing titles off of each other, like sit in Nancy,
and it's like, oh, what I want to watch?

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Day and The Money Pit, The Money Pit starring Tom Hanks.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
So we talk about Tom Hanks again. We keep mentioning
him in a roundabout way. That guy from the money
Pit used to sell hot dogs at A's games. We
come back to that story, and then we go into
We go into the video store and guess who's working
behind the counter.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Hank the video store owner.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Hank the video store owner is waiting back there behind
the counter to prove, to prove that this makes him
officially checkov's Tom Hanks.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
And uh so we get check outs Tom Hanks and
he then gives us a Tarantino like breakdown of four
of the five greatest underdog movies of all time.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Look, the only way Tom Hanks could have been more
Tarantino in this scene is if he interrupted every other
thing he said with Okay, all right, okay, all right,
all right, okay, like.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
He is, you don't have to tell me how good
the money Pit is. I fucking made it.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
All right, I fucking made the movie. Okay, I mean alright, Like,
he gives this speech about the five greatest underdog movies, right,
and he breaks them down, and then we get to
that first one, and we don't know the name of
the movie. Cargol I will have you know that I
figured out what movie it is. I figured out it's
a movie I had never seen, and I watched it

(47:47):
in preparation for this episode, because all Tom Hanks tells
us is that it's a movie from nineteen seventy nine,
and he gives us the last line of Roger Ebert's review,
and it's quote, movies like this are hardly ever made
at all. When they made this, well their precious cinematic
miracles nineteen seventy nine underdog movie with So what I
did is I went to nineteen seventy nine in film,

(48:09):
looked at every sports movie in every movie I thought
involved underdogs, went to Roger's review and read it. It
took me about eight tries, but I found out the
movie he is talking about. Did you figure it out?

Speaker 3 (48:20):
I did not. I'm dying to know.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
It's Breaking Away. Yeah, that is the last line of
Roger Eberts' review of Breaking Away nineteen seventy nine. So
I went back and I watched it. And here's the
freakiest part of this freaky tale, Cargil. The movie takes
place in my home state, on the campus of the
college that my brother went to. Like I felt like

(48:45):
somebody was spitting green energy into my eyes through this movie.
It was insane and I'm watching it and it is
an amazing coming of age story. It's about, you know,
a kid who lives in Bloomington, Indiana, where IU is
and he but he's towny. He doesn't go to the school,
and there's a lot of friction between the frat guys
and the towny guys. And the towny guys feel like

(49:06):
their lives are going nowhere. But one of them, played
by Dennis Christopher from Fade to Black, really wants to
compete in this Italian bicycle race. And it's all about
this being his dream, the only thing that's going to
get him out of this town, the only thing that's
going to give him something to hope for. It's an
incredible fucking movie.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah. And ma'am, who is the director of Breaking Away?

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Uh? That would be Peter Yates, the director of a
movie we covered not two weeks ago called an Innocent Man?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
That is correct, Sir, ain't life a motherfucker again?

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Do you understand why I felt like green energy was
shooting out of the goddamn screen.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
This movie is a fever dream. We've shared it's not real.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
None if this is real.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
None of this is real. I want to talk to
the cops. I want my truck back.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I want to get on that bus and have Marshall
lynn driving Marshall Lynch drive into the sky and turn
around and just go hold me, Dick like I want
all of this to happen, Cargill, because none of it
seems real. For those of you who haven't seen the movie,
U two through five on that list are The Verdict,
The Dirty Dozen, Hoosiers, and Rocky So Those, according to
Hank the Video store Owner, are the five greatest underdog

(50:10):
movies of all time.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I'm wondering who wrote that. I'm just really curious if
that was written by uh Anna Boten, was that written
by Ryan Fleck, or was that written by t Hanks himself.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
It's a great question. So I'm how do you feel
like this list stacks up? Are you happy with with
the line?

Speaker 3 (50:31):
I mean, it's a list where you know, when I
heard it going on, you know I would not argue
it's one of those like, you know, we can agree
to disagree, but that's a that's a solid fucking list.

Speaker 2 (50:42):
I appreciate that the list isn't just sports movies, like
three of the five sure are sports movies, but then
the Verdict is a courtroom drama with Paul Newman. And
the Dirty Dozen is obviously the Dirty Dozen. We've covered
it on this show. But I also do appreciate that
two of these movies are about Indiana. I'm just gonna
throw that out there, Tom, I see you, I see
you seeing me, and I'm weird it out that I
see you seeing me.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
After these messages, we'll be right back. I just want
to meet a woman. I want to meet a woman,
and I want to fall in love. This is the
story of Alan Bauer. Somebody can hear it's not working.
There are worse organs not to be working.

Speaker 7 (51:16):
He's unloved, unlucky, and he's got a sinking feeling. He's
going under for the third time until the tide turns
and he meets the girl of his dreams. She's sexy,
she's beautiful, she loves him, and thereby hangs a tale.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Can I come in?

Speaker 7 (51:34):
All my life, I've been waiting for someone, and when
I find her.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
She's.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
She's a fish.

Speaker 7 (51:41):
Nobody said loves perfect Daryl Hannah and Tom Hanks and
John Candy Splash today on Cinemax.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
And uh, but it turns out that he, uh, Clint
played by Pedro Pascal, asks for a certain number of
movies and that order of movies is actually a code
word that lets him into the back much two Hanks disappointment.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
I love that the last one in that sequence is
the color of money because it gets him into this
private poker game taking place in the back of the store.
And then we find out that Pedro Pascal, Pedro Pascal's character, Clint,
is a loan shark for someone called the Guy. Now,
at this point, I've already told you that the guy
has been Mendelssohn. The movie hasn't told us yet. We
just know that he, like we've met Ben Mendlssonn as

(52:32):
a shitty cop, and that Pedro Pascal works for the guy,
but we have not The movie has not connected those
dots for us yet. But he's there to collect a
debt from one of the players, and it's supposed to
be his last job. And Cargo, what do we know
about movies where somebody goes on one last job those
do those last jobs tend to go well?

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Well? They tend to go well if they're not really
your last job, if they're the last job that you've
decided to do, but it's not your real last job.
And that's what we find out is this job goes
perfectly fine, but it's not his last job.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
So he breaks this guy's finger. He's feeling good because
he feels like he's leaving this life behind him. He
goes back to his wife in the car, and then
a young man comes up to the car with a gun,
and it turns out that this is the slightly more
grown up version of a small child who witnessed Clint
beating his father, presumably to death. I'm like, we don't

(53:29):
really establish what happened, but we do know this young
man has grown up now and wants revenge and he's
holding the gun on Clint. And it's Clint's wife who
is able to shoot this young man, but she takes
a bullet in the stomach in the process, which is
just so fucking harrowing and sad. And then the next
day Clint is meeting up with this this other goon

(53:51):
who works for the guy, and this goon is demanding
that Clint take part in a scheme to rob the
homes of NBA players that night, which will be the
Warrior's playing the Lakers. This is another auditory running thing
throughout the movie, besides the green energy. We hear people
talking about this game and this player, Sleepy Floyd, and
this incredible game he had against the Lakers, and you know,

(54:13):
people are talking about it. In fact, in this segment,
one of the things that the guy who owes money
barters is like, I will give you these floor seats
to the Warriors Lakers tonight. So we keep hearing about
this game. But it turns out the guy has this
scheme where he's going to rob the Warriors players while
they're at the game. He refuses to do it. Clint's like,

(54:33):
I'm not doing I'm done. The goon threatens him, but
Clint says, dude, I just lost my wife and my child.
I have nothing left to live where there's nothing you
can do to hurt me. And then it's at this
point he's whisked away to the police station. He's asked
to come id his wife Shooter, and this is where.

Speaker 3 (54:48):
Only only after he meets Lucid and Tina sees her
the new gift she's receiving in the diner of a
wristband with you know, blades on it it and tells
her go for the neck.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Oh, such a great line. That's such a great fucking.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Line, which she absolutely does, as we've already mentioned that
beautiful gusher. Of course there was a gusher because it
started off with Pedro Pascal and.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
I love that. Clint refuses to I D the shooter
like he still feels tremendous guilt about all of this,
about what's it his part to play in this whole
tale of woe and refuses to IDM. And it's here
where he runs into the guy and the guy is
trying to get him to do this game. He's like, no,
I absolutely will not. And he also gets a call
right here letting him know that his infant daughter is

(55:39):
going to make it. And the last line of this
segment is Ben Mendelssohn saying, looks like you've got something
to live for after all, which coming out of anyone
else's mouth would be a positive line of dialogue, but
of course it's Mendelssohn as the guy, so it's a threat.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Final check.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
The Legend of Sleepy Floyd Chapter the fourth, the fucking
finale of this movie. The best segment in the movie,
Chapter four, the Legend of Sleepy Floyd. Sleepy Floyd, by
the way, is the second character in the movie based
on a real person where the actual real person is

(56:24):
also in the movie playing not that person. Yep, the
real Sleepy Floyd, a player who played for both the
Warriors and the Rockets a couple of other teams in
his legendary career, is actually the guy at the burger
stand after the game that high fies the actor Jay
Ellis who is playing Sleepy Floyd. So again a real person,
a character playing that real person. The real person is

(56:45):
also in the movie, not playing themselves. If your eyes
haven't gone a cross yet, I don't know what to
tell you, but this is basically the story of Sleepy
Floyd's incredible second half, not even his whole game, because
the first half of the game it was like, you know,
we're getting our asses kicked. Whatever. Sleepy Floyd comes alive
in the second half and puts on a legendary performance

(57:05):
that I believe is actually based on the nineteen eighty
seven NBA Playoffs against the Jazz, in which Floyd, playing
for the Warriors, averaged twenty one points ten assists and
one point eight steals. And now that was that was
in the ten games that they played in the playoffs,
played a key role in the first round upset.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
No, it was. It's a real game, and it's a
real game against the Lakers on May tenth, nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Okay, interesting, all right, So.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Because he put up twenty nine points in the.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Fourth quarter, that is correct, yees a total.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Of thirty nine in the second half.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Which are both records that stand to this day.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Yes, for those of you that don't watch basketball, twenty
nine points in a quarter for a team is a
big fucking deal. Oh yeah, twenty nine points for a
single player is fucking legendary shit. And this was this
was uh, this was folk hero shit. And that's what's

(58:04):
so great about them weaving in this night. This is
the night that Sleepy Floyd became an Oakland folk hero.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yes he did. And it's funny too because Sleepy Floyd,
otherwise known as Eric Floyd, was on the Georgetown team
along with Patrick Ewing, that lost the nineteen eighty two
national championship because of a last second shot by a
North Carolina player, some freshman named Mike Jordan.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
Oh yeah, that guy who fucked the kids, That guy.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Fucked them kids. Absolutely, but like I love that, there
is there is a fittingness there.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
He took that personally.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
He took that personally. Carl Gil, he took that personally.
NBA history. Now again this movie like it's yeah, they're
fucking crazy.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
This is what blew my mind that you had not
watched this movie yet, because I was like, this movie
wasn't just made for me, it was made for Ryan.
It was made for everyone that listens to this podcast.
This is our fucking movie. It was made for us.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Lazy day, you Lazer to lose a Natty to Michael Jordan,
but then to this day, to hold probably the only
record that Jordan doesn't fucking hold is such an appropriate
fuck damn kids, right, I love it so much. Uh
So he's playing in this amazing game and then we

(59:28):
just see this crew wreaking havoc. They've decided to rob
basically all of the players they were. There's a scene
where Ben Mendelssohn is talking to another one of his
asgoons and trying to figure out who they're gonna rob,
and then they just decide to rob everybody, even though
Chris Mullens. Weirdly enough, was specifically they told him to
lay off of Chris Mullens. Uh, who is another legendary player.

(59:50):
Look up Chris Mullens and next time you have a chance.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
But yeah, this is uh yeah, why did they Why
did they lay off him?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Oh? Because Mendelssohn's like, why don't they take chances undrafting
white guys anymore?

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Yeah, because he's the white guy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
By the way, speaking of rapping sidebark, Ben Mendelssoon apparently
does voice acting on the interluding intro tracks of the
album Humans by Gorillas. I switched that piece of information

(01:00:23):
kind of melted my brain a little bit, but retire less,
he's just doing feature work. Ben Mendelssohn is doing feature
work on a Gorilla's album Discuss talk to me Well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
I mean, to be fair, virtually everybody has featured on
a Gorilla's album at some point. I mean, that's kind
of their whole thing that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
Carget we might we might be on a Gorilla's album
and just not know it. It's possible.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
I don't have to type this any you want me to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah, they're robbing these houses. It's it's a very scary situation,
and we're cutting back and forth between them robbing the houses.
And this is not a this is not a crew
that has all their shit together. We're not talking about,
you know, James Conn's crew from Thief. This is a
crew that, like they're smashing shit, They're leaving place as
a mess. They kill one of the players dogs, like
it's just they still Chris Mullen's fucking gold medal from
the eighty four Olympics, Like, what are we doing here, guys?

(01:01:19):
God damn.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
It's almost like they hang out with the Nazis from
the beginning of the film.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Yes, it's almost like they have that in common. And
then you know, they're in Sleepy Floyd's house and we
see this kind of this story element happening simultaneously where
Sleepy Floyd's mom and his sister and his I think
his sister's his sister's boyfriend, and his mom his girlfriend.
They're all at the game, and the mom gets sick
because she recently decided she was gonna be vegetarian and

(01:01:47):
then didn't want to do that anymore. Slowly introducing meatback
in her diet and the hot dogs at the stadium
made her stomach upset, So the girlfriend and the I
believe his his old roommate or somebody. They're gonna take
the mom back to the house. And this is at
halftime when they're losing by twelve points. It looks like
the Showtime Lakers, which, by the way, again another fucking

(01:02:08):
I have the book sitting right over there about the
goddamn Showtime Lakers. That is one of the greatest sports
stories ever told. If you haven't watched the HBO series
Winning Time, which was canceled before it's goddamn prime, Like
that show should have run for three more seasons. It's
incredible watch it. But again, we're dealing with the Showtime Lakers.

(01:02:28):
We're dealing with basketball history. I am all jazzed up. No,
the Jazz played in the eighty seve playoffs, don' worry
about it. It's unfortunate that they get back to Sleepy's
house as this crew is still there. They shoot all
three of these people, and while you know, the mom
and the friend are in critical condition, unfortunately, his girlfriend
passes away and he's inconsolable. You have all these players

(01:02:49):
calling him trying to, you know, send their condolences. He
is just he's catatonical most and then he gets this call.
He gets this call, and we find out that the
Kulk is coming from the punk kids at the beginning
of the movie because they were in that diner with Clint,
they overheard what they were talking about. They followed this
goon to the house and it's the house from the

(01:03:13):
fucking meeting of the movie Bill. The Nazis congregate and
they let him know the address. And the way that
this movie slowly takes its time revealing that Sleepy Floyd
is also a goddamned kung fu master with a room
full of weapons.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
He's been teaching meditation and the ability to harness green
energy shit, and we have been told that he collects
a lot of expensive weird art.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
He's basically shown enough.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
He's basically shown he is show enough.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
He is the showgun of the Bay Area.

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
And now we have crazy psychic samurai warrior versus Nazis.

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
So he's tooling up for whom the bell tolls. My
Metallica starts playing.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
Bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
It was at this point that I physically got out
of my chair and started chanting fuck Yes. I was
so geared up for this. I was like, oh God, damn.
And then he comes down. He's got the classic NBA
warm up gear on, but the Warriors team name is
conspicuously missing the S at the end, so it just
says Warrior whoa cargo? Ah Oh, I was like, somebody's

(01:04:25):
getting fucked up tonight, let's go so.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
And if only he had a badass kill Bill style
leather vest filled with ninja stars and blades.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Oh my god, now we're getting into some game of
death shit. Like he just goes into this house, the
Nazi house from the Game of the movie. He's tearing
his way through. Here we switch from Metallica to the
song choices parentheses yep by e four oh e four oh.
By the way, another Bay Area rapper, legendary rapper that
too Shorts collaborated with so many fucking times Nope. What

(01:04:58):
I love about dude, that's my favorite part that song,
ye is that these lines in the song end on
either a note a nope or a yup, and the
scene is cut so that every line of the song
that ends in a nope hits just after a Nazi
misses with a punch, and every line that ends with
yup hits when Sleepy connects with a fist, a headbutt
or a cabinet door or whatever. Like it is so

(01:05:20):
pitch perfectly, pitch perfectly edited. I love it so much.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
Yeah, it's I felt like that particular element was very
Edgar Wright inspired. Oh yeah, like they were like they
were definitely doing their their fun, violent, ultraviolent grindhouse version
of Baby Driver.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Oh yeah, they're doing Sleepy Driver. Like that's what this
movie is right now. It's Sleepy Driver and it's fucking work.
Like in that same E four O song, there's one
line that ends with him going Star Wars Yoda, like
they're just questions, are just weird, non sequitary questions. As
soon as he says that, a Nazi goes over the
railing and we hear a Willhelm scream. This happens twice
and only when he said Star Wars Yoda Willhelm scream.

(01:06:03):
Come on, guys, how are you out of love with
this movie already?

Speaker 3 (01:06:06):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Oh my god? Sidebar. If you haven't heard the album
Snoop Cube forty Short by Mount Westmore, do yourself a
damn favor and track it down. It's on Spotify. Mount
Westmore is a fucking West Coast rap supergroup it's Snoop

(01:06:28):
dogg ice Cube E four oh and two Short. It's
like the Traveling Wilbury's of gangster Rap, which is the
whitest thing I've ever said.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
You know what, that is pretty goddamn white.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Let me see if I can top it. This is
the damn Yankees of High Fee Okay, Like it's a
goddamn supergroup and every track on that album is a magic.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
You love.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Can we do without nuge and shit nudges? Goddamn?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
After these messages, we'll be right back slowly.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
The Bay Area legend two Short is back on the
scene with the brand album Blow to Whistle, with the
one songtail every club in the country, Blow the Whistle
Whist Too Soft back with the sixties release feature of
special guests of.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Bands Hey, Snoop Dog and What I Am When a
new single Key Bouncing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
Some Jamie your life. And by the way, we've talked
about Mendelssohn, We've talked about Pascal, We've talked about the
you know, the ones playing the kids in the movie.
Can we talked about how great Jay Ellis is in
this movie?

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
My god, Jay Ellis is so fucking good in this movie.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Look, if I'm saying is if mihrschela Ali is a
little too old by the time they get around a blade,
they got a backup.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Oh oh my god, right, I just got full on
erect at that. I have a stake in my pants
right now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
For those of you that still haven't seen it, he's
that good, Like, he is so amazing in this fucking movie.
He is just as sleepy Floyd. You the standing up
and cheering in the fourth part of this movie, in
the last ten minutes. It is very real. It is.
It is the you know, when you spin this movie
for the third or fourth time, as I have already done,

(01:08:25):
you you start like, oh, I'm gonna get some Nazi killing,
and then I get to kind of ease into the
rest of the movie, and by the end, I'm gonna
be like yeash, Like that's the thing. It's why I
can't pick at like what's my favorite, because this movie
is so perfectly paced to give you a little bit
of everything you want out of it, and it all
gives you all the exposition you need by the time

(01:08:48):
you get to Ben Mendelssohn's office and we get to
experience the scanner's moment.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Dude, Okay, so liked.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
You are ready for it, like you have prepared. You've
seen a bus fly, You've seen a couple of women
kick the shit out of too Short on stage. You
have seen you know, all this craziness unfurl, you have
seen green shit fucking with everything. You are ready for
j Ellis v. Ben Mendelssohn.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
You will believe a bus can fly in this movie.
But Cargil before we get to the office, Oh my god,
Oh my god, Sleepy Shreds is warm up sweatshirt reveals
that Game of Death esque yellow vest. The music then
changes again to a song that I recognized immediately but
didn't didn't sound exactly like I knew it. So. I'm

(01:09:43):
a big fan of a Houston rapper named Fat pat
r I P. And his best track by far is
called tops Drop, which goes, that's the hook, right. I
I realized that the song that's playing right here and
this moment in the scene is don't Stop. The music

(01:10:05):
by Yarborough and Peoples, which is the song Fat Pat
fucking sampled for Tops Drop. I like, at this point
was just like, yeah, I made this movie up. It
does not actually fucking exist. Nope, nope, yep. So and then,
in true John Wick fashion, the guy who killed the dog,
he comes face to face with Sleepy and he gets

(01:10:28):
it the worst. Sleepy puts his hand directly through his
chest like this is goddamn Punisher warzone. Holy shit, it
was great. Yep, oh my god. And then you know,
we get the leader of this high screw in a
black light room feeding a live mouse to a snake.
I worked with a guy at Blockbuster in college who
used to do this at parties. He had a pet

(01:10:50):
snake and he loved to wait till people were over
to feed it live mice. Like he wasn't a Nazi,
he was just really fucking weird. But like, that struck
a chord with me as well as like, Okay, that's
I don't like that that memory is coming back, but
that guy loses his head and as the others are
running away, I love that the one goon stops to
tell Sleepy, hey, good game tonight, man, Like even his

(01:11:13):
enemies have to acknowledge the superhuman performance on the hardwood
that was sleepy Floyd against the showtime blakers. Goddamn yep.
And then we finally get in that office he takes out.
There was a scene earlier where this hinchman of Mendelssohn's
is giving him all this like fun facts in trivia,

(01:11:34):
and he's just like, I really don't need any more
goddamn trivia. Just tell me about the players and where
they're gonna be and what they have in their houses.
And he gets an ax directly to the brain, like
just thank you for being in this movie. You are
free to go. And by the way, that is an
actor by the name of Angus Cloud who's playing Travis,
and this was actually his last movie. He passed away

(01:11:57):
in twenty twenty three of an overdose, so I just
wanted to shout out him and his great performance in
this movie. And the way he goes out of this
movie is fucking fantastic, as is Mendelssohn just making a
four course meal out of this moment, like him pulling
that shotgun and saying, let's teach this clown how to
juggle uh, or like when they're face to face and

(01:12:17):
Sleepy has just started meditating, like Mendelssen's got to drop
on him with a shotgun, and Sleepy's just meditating, and
Middelsen says, did you do all this yourself? Or do
you have dopey and sneezy hiding in a closet somewhere,
Like he is just chewing on this dialogue like it's
bubblegum ice cream, a thing he almost by he almost
bought earlier in the fucking movie.

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
Yeah, he's having a blast here, He's going for it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Oh my god. And the reveal that the guy not
only has Pedro Pascal beaten and tied up in his office,
but also has gained possession of Pascal's infant daughter as well,
and the baby's just on the desk, Like that's a
whole movie that happened while we were busy following Sleepy,
which is insane, But it was at this point in
my first viewing, I was waiting for the buried Gun

(01:13:03):
of Scytopics to be on Earth. I was eagerly anticipating
the arrival of Chekhov's sy Topics, And by god, did
he show up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Oh yeah, yeah, it pays the fuck off, It really does,
Like everything about this plays in its own wonderful universe
that you just want to live in.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Mendelssohn explodes like an overcooked hot dog in the microwave,
and I love that his punch guard from the ice
Cream Story was in earlier where danger Zone was working.
The place is called Sweet Rewards, so the punch guard says, uh,
get ready for your Sweet Rewards, just like, oh, it's
so good, so good. And we mentioned that Sleepy is
meditating there at the end when when our boy Mendelssohn

(01:13:46):
comes in with that shotgun, it turns out there's a
really interesting twist. And this is not to crip too
hard from our new patron exclusive Alien Earth recap show.
This is full on sci fi.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
Let's say theory.

Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
It's a theory for sure, But my theory is that
the directors and writers of this particular film love the
Last Jedi because Sleepy Floyd may not actually be in
this house but at all, but instead astrally projecting himself
through the power of syde topics.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
That is correct, and it's it's one of those that
it's a single shot and a single line that give
that theory. And because it was one of those that
we talked about it early and so I rewatched it
and man, I was like, no, no, this is no
it's this is another one of those wouldn't it be

(01:14:40):
cool if? But no, there's nothing in the text. And
then it's in the text, and it's like, oh, man,
is did they intend this? Like this is literally a
thing where I want to reach out and and ask
the directors what the intent was there? Because yes, like
he goes, he goes, I'm going to go to sleep now,

(01:15:01):
and it's like, okay, maybe that's got a double meaning.
Then he goes and he puts on all of his clothes,
he gets up, he goes, motions to his family members,
slash friends, you know, hey, I'm you know, essentially, I'm
gonna go kick some ass now, and they not. But
it's done like they shoot it like a Scott Derekson
forty frames per second, Like it's Scott always shoots a

(01:15:26):
scene with forty frames per second in every movie we make,
so I'm really used to what forty frames per second looks.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Like, Wait a minute, is Scott the reason I have
to change the settings of my grandparents' TVs all the time?
God damn it, Scott.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
No, No, no, no, no, no doing that just it's
a it's a version of slowing down the scene that
doesn't take it to full half speed, so it doesn't
feel like go. It's this creepy dreamlike frames per second
to where the movement still looks human, but it looks

(01:15:59):
like it's happening just out of space and time. It's
a really great visual trick, which is why Scott loves it,
and they do it here to where everybody nods, but
you know, it's kind of slow, so you're there and
it feels like it might be in a dream. He
then hops on his bike, he rides off and he's,

(01:16:19):
you know, driving pass things. Why would you be driving
if you are you know, just doing this from the
comfort of your meditation space. But we then get the
climax as we've talked about, like all the blood, all
the violence, all the awesomeness. And then he goes and
he leaves and we see him riding in a shot

(01:16:40):
that very much looks inspired by kill Bill and you
almost expect him to fly off at the end i'llah,
the end of the second story, and then we just
cut to his eyes opening as if he's out of
the meditation now and it's like, oh, he might be
using psychopics to fuck people up.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
There were two pieces of evidence for me that led
me to buy into this theory. The first is that
when all the fighting is done, Pedro Pascal just gets
up takes the baby. Sleepy Floyd's not there. They never interact.
There is no interaction between Sleepy Floyd and Pedro Pascal.
He just gets up and leaves, and it's Pedro who
has to explain to the Nazis coming back, like, oh, yeah,
your dad fucked with the wrong warrior, so he's seen him.

(01:17:26):
But they do not interact, which leads me to believe
that as soon as Ben Mendelssohn was dead, that's when
Sleepy vanished. The projection of Sleepy has dissipated, and now
it's just Pedro leaving the scene and saying, your father,
your daddy fucked with the wrong warrior. Also, in the
side topics commercial that they used to book in this movie,
the beginning and the end, if you watch the longer version,
at the end, he says, for those of you staying

(01:17:49):
for the more advanced class on Sunday, you'll learn to
defeat your enemies from the comfort of your own mind,
which is essentially exactly what astrol p is. So yeah,
I think the motorcycle thing is him envisioning the highway,
the path to obtaining the scytopic level necessary to project

(01:18:12):
himself literally traveling through his mind to find the right
place to be able to project himself into physical form
and kill all these Nazis, and then when the job
is done, basically retreating back from his mind into his
physical body, and that's represented visually in his mind as
him being on a motorcycle.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
Yeah, yeah, I think that may be the case. I
was skeptical and now I am not so skeptical, and
I just need an answer from a filmmaker and they
may say, well, that's up to you, at which point
I will grumble obscenities.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
But hey, my wife will tell you, don't leave things
up to me. Never leave things up to me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Yeah, don't leave it up to me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Don't send me to the grocery store with a vague
understanding of what I'm supposed to get and then turn
your phone off. You know, I'm gonna call.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Leave things up to me, and children end up slaughtering
their whole families. It's just, you know, it's much better
if I if if somebody else handles this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
That was a ghoulish thing to say. And then like
all of this is done, Pedro Pascal just quietly gets up,
collects his baby, calmly walks out the front door as
the brutalized Nazis from the opening segment return home and defeat.
And that one Nazi whose neck is just pouring blood
is like what happened here? And Pedro has the line

(01:19:25):
of the movie where he says, by the looks of things,
I'd say your daddy fucked with the wrong warrior. Ah. Oh,
I want to I want to put this movie in
a juice box and drink it, like yeah, oh my god,
it's so good.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
This is This is why we watch movies, folks, for
movies like this. It is. It is a joy from
beginning to end. There's not a weak moment in it.
There's not a part you'll ever want to fast forward through.
You will just you will watch it and you'll be like,
I need to watch that again, and you will if
I don't know how many times I'll watch this movie
over the course of my life, but it has entered

(01:20:00):
the pantheon of a.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Lot Sleepy Floyd is Superman written on the wall in
blood Hell to the Yes. This movie, this, I'm gonna say,
this is my favorite movie of twenty twenty five so far.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
It's mine. That's That's why I wanted to talk about it.
Like there's there's so many movies I've loved this year.
There's so many movies I am deeply in love with.
There are a lot of new favorites, but this is
the only movie that's come out this year that I
have watched four or five times already, and it came
out in April, so I mean, do the math. I'm

(01:20:32):
watching it. I'm watching it once a month right now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
I didn't see it until July. And my favorite movie
prior to this that it just edged out was Hard Eyes.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
So for me, it's so absolutely on the list.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Oh my god, I love this movie so much. It
feels custom made for the junky Ons, Like it really
is a movie that all of you will appreciate. It's
currently streaming on HBO Max, but anywhere you can if
you have to pay to rent it or buy it,
it's absolutely I'm saying this you right now, it's absolutely
worth your money. It absolutely is. The studio is not
paying us to say that we're not getting any.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Cools for anything for this movie.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
That is a good point.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
I feel like right now we've done more advertising for
this movie than Lionsgate has.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
This is very true. We're blowing the whistle for this
movie and trying to get more people to rally around it.
That's what we're doing here. And that brings us to
the junk food pairing. And for this one, I went
with an Oakland A's stadium hot dog, but specifically one
sold by Hal Gordon. How Jordan. No, he's not a
fucking green lantern. He may not be Tom Hanks, but

(01:21:35):
how Gordon has sold hot dogs at A's games from
twenty fifteen to twenty twenty two and became an unofficial
mascot for the team, dressing like an old fashioned vendor
and leading the crowd in cheers. And he even has
his own baseball card. And as many times as it's
mentioned that Tom Hanks used to sell hot dogs at
Oakland A's game, I feel like he got it. While
there's still the Oakland A's for the brief window of

(01:21:57):
time before they become the Las Vegas A's. Get you
yourself a goddamn stadium hot Dog.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Yeah, I mean it's it's hard to pick something other
than that, Like, this is a stadium hot dog movie.
Like it plays, it plays in, it does the job. Ah,
you could make an argument for a really good diner breakfast, sure,
because we do visit the diner a couple of times
in this movie. But but yeah, that's a that's a
good call.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Maybe Rocky Road ice cream if you're not out of
it bach Bach, Oh my god, thank you so much
for engaging in these freaky tales with us. I hope
it wasn't too freaky for you. I hope you track
it down and watch it. It's so fucking good. If
you want more jug Food Cinema, Like I said, we
have eleven years of this shit on your favorite podcast,
So you can follow us on social media. And if
you really like.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
The show, I mean you really like the show.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
If you like it as too as much as Too
Short loves a lot of things that are freaky, you
can go to patreon dot com slash Junk Food Cinema
financially support the show. We greatly appreciate it. Cargo. Where
can people find you on the interwebs?

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
You can find me on Blue Sky at c Robertcargill
dot Blue Sky dot social. You can find my latest book,
All the Actually Behind on Subterranean Press, coming out shortly
from Simon and Schuster. On audiobook, you can find me
in the currently number three best selling hardcover in the

(01:23:14):
United States according to The New York Times. Our anthology
The End of the World as We Know It, my
story wrong fucking place, wrong fucking time. We can find
that there. You can find another anthology we just put out,
Haunted Reels, too, where a bunch of US filmmakers, horror
filmmakers all wrote horror stories together, and you can find

(01:23:38):
that wherever you get your books. And of course look
out for Black Phone two come out out October seventeenth.
And by the way, go into your local store and
pick up some strawberry Fanta which has the grabber on it.
I have made my way into junk food pantheon. I

(01:23:59):
made something that is on a Fanta. Can so go
pick yourself up a nice twelve pack of strawberry Fanta.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
I can easily say, in my wildest dreams, I never
thought that would happen for so many fucking reasons.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Fanta Fanta, I want a Fanta I love that happened.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
I'm a big fanta that's gonna do it for this episode.
And I'm sorry if we got a little too loud,
But as a wise man from the Bay once said,
fuck your speakers. Ah, I'm Sleepy Floyd.

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