Episode 373 - S17E7 - Patrimonial Burden - Law and Order: Special Viewing Unit

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello, listeners, and welcome back to another episode of laud
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cop drama, laud Or a special victims uit every episode
in a row from the.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Beginning, so you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'm your host, Matt Reuter, joining me as always for
this terrible but surprisingly good, moment filled episode. That's a
few group beside over there. How are you doing tonight?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
A Eve, Frank, get a hold of your wife here, Tell.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
That fucking bitch to chill. The one that says bad
motherfucker on it. That is it was this show's version
of pulp fiction.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Yeah, how are you? How are I'm a Vive Rode.
How are you doing, Matt?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm actually doing very well, Avive. So, uh peaked behind
the curtain again. We're recording out ways because a Eve
is going on his honeymoon.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
So that that horrible thing that happened in the middle
of May, at the end of May, we don't know what.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We don't know about it yet. It's uh, but I'm
we are probably shocked but not surprised, and uh, you know,
we we wish all those that are the thing that
happened to the people.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
With that happened happened too.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, we're very it's bad. It's bad, and we don't
feel very good about that ourselves. No, but speaking of
because you're going on to your anniversary, you're hunting. Cassie
and I just.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Happened.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yes, uh no, Cassie and I took a trip over
the weekend because tomorrow is our anniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
So it's sun will come out.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
So we took a nice little trip to Walla Walla, Washington,
which is one of the many kind of wine regions.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
A place that only exists in cartoons.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, it's it's it's a real place, I promise you.
It's one of the bigger wine producing regions of Washington.
So we went out there and had a nice little weekend,
got to be out in the country and try some
delicious wine, and it was it's a nice little town there.
So it was a very nice, quiet little weekend out

(02:15):
in White Country.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
What a delightful little wee wine country weekend.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah exactly, thank you, so yeah. Shout out to kin
Haven Winery and the Dusted Valley Wineries where we were
both at and had a fantastic experience recommend if you
ever find yourself in Walla, Walla, Washington, go check them out.
But that's how I am doing a viva. How are

(02:40):
you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Mixed bag? Matt? Yeah, nice bag.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Given the enthusiasm you entered the show with tonight, it
doesn't seem.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
No, I'm doing okay.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
It wasn't a horrible because you didn't tell me something horrible,
but it doesn't seem good either because you you didn't
come in with that energy. So I think it was like, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Okay, it averaged out.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
I had a very weird week last week. I took
a quick trip to Austin, Texas. Ah. Yes, so I'm
I've on and off kind of been working on this
script for this family that's like a big Fish style
like adventure movie that's like loosely based on their family's history.

(03:27):
And so I wrote a draft last year around this
time and they're like, okay, And then around December of
last year they were like, oh, what if we did
it like this? And then they I wrote a different
draft and now they're like, well, what if we do
it in between versions one and two? If we like

(03:47):
if like find the middle ground? And I was like Okay,
that's fine, and they're like, well, let's figure it out.
And I'm like, I know, I've already figured it out.
That's fine. And they're like, well, why don't you come
to our ranch in Austin and will like work on
this story. And I'm like, you're not hearing me. I
I don't need to do that, and they're like, well,
here's your flight, and so I flew. I landed in

(04:10):
Austin at like eleven am on Wednesday of last week.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
I'm gonna stop here just real quick. So I because
this is where my head is going. You you didn't
get lured into some sort of a misery situation, right,
like I can't see below a certain level you could be.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's weird how close you are.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Oh see, this is this is the thing. Whenever you
were like and they're like, here's a play ticket, I'm like,
don't get on that flight.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Don't go get on TV. So I landed in Austin
at eleven.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Am and change on Wednesday, and I flew out of
Austin at four pm the following day. So I was
there for oh my god, almost thirty hours.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
That's it. And so.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I know, and so I got I got there, there
was like a white We went to like the lady's house,
and then we drove out to her ranch and it's
a super nice ranch. It's eighty acres and we had
a little bit of lunch and there was a whiteboard
and I'm like, okay, let's like like wait, let's like,
you know, work on the story. And we were waiting

(05:28):
for the producer of the film, who's on a slightly
later flight, and by the time he got there, we
were already done. We had already like like reoutlined the movie.
And they were like, well, we expected this to take
the entire time, and I was like, you, I swear
to you, I told you that it wouldn't take that
like that, We're fine, this is gonna be fine. And

(05:50):
so we like we went we went ATVing and then.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
We had a nice little weird vaca.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
We had a nice little weird vacation in Austin.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I will I will men and another thing I saw
on the Austin airport a little later. But I got
back at around seven on Thursday evening and drove straight
to an event that my friend was like hosting.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
So my friend yeah, yeah, okay, my.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Friend Alex is like a filmmaker and director, and she
submitted a music video to something called the LA Music
Video Awards and like won a prize last year, and
so they asked her to be the president of the
jury this year and she's like sure, and then so
so she invited us to this like award ceremony and

(06:41):
it was super weird.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
It was exceptionally weird.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Okay, So where was it.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
It was at a club called Academy LA, which was basic.
It basically just is like a big warehouse.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
I was just gonna say, uh huh, that's that's the
important detail. So you're basic out of warehouse.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, but like a cool warehouse, like a
like a like a club warehouse. And there's just like
super big speakers and one television.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
And how how big is the place?

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Just for reference in square feet?

Speaker 1 (07:18):
You know football field too? Football?

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Maybe like maybe like a three quarters of a football field.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Okay, so a decent size like a from a if
you had to ballpark at a capacity.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Oh, it could fit like seven hundred people. There were
about fifteen people.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
That's that's what I want the visual of though. Giant space, no,
no what very few people, giant speakers, tidy television for
only fifteen.

Speaker 3 (07:47):
People, right, and and so, but the television wasn't even working,
which I found out later. So we were like, what,
there are some people who are in from like like
India and the Middle East who are like performing their
songs and they're supposed to be performing like along with
their videos, and one of them the TV wasn't working.
And so my friend Alex, who is I guess a

(08:09):
little bit embarrassed secondhand embarrassed, I don't know, was like
kind immediately drunk, like like absolutely plastered.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
And wait, why she was She didn't she didn't wasn't
in charge that she was on the jury.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
But she was on the jury. She was the president
of the jury. But she kept like you know when
she got there, she exactly I don't I don't think
that she needs to be embarrassed per se.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
But she was embarrassed because she brought you or just at.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Like, no, well, she invited a bunch of people, but
also like like for the performers who were like not
having a great time, and and so she got really
really hammered and they're like she's like they're making me speak,
and so we're like here, we go, and so she
got up and she basically gave the the Pam Beasley

(09:01):
I feel God in this Chili's Tonight speech. She's like,
I'm so glad that everyone's here. I wish the fucking
TV worked. And we're all here to make art. We're
either musicians or filmmakers or artists, and we all believe
in art, and that's why we're here to believe in art.

(09:26):
And then someone like gave her a bunch of flash
She's like, thank you for the flowers. I wish the
TV worked, and so you gotta just gotta keep going.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
You gotta just move forward, move forward.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
And so then on Friday, we had some friends in
from out of town who are coming to LA from
Santa Barbara to like see a show, like not to
see us whatsoever. They they like wanted to stay. And
as you can see behind me, every week, there's like
a little orange couch here that actually like pulls out
into a bed.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Oh nice.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
So I in my mind know where the couch ends.
Mm hmmm, because.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
You've put it out how many times?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
YEA, yeah, Well no, I know where the couch ends
because the couch is there. We don't put the bed
out that often, and so Leanne put the bed out
on Friday. And on Friday morning, I was like walking
into this room and I stubbed my toes so hard
that it broke.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Oh no, so.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I miseried myself.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh well, that's a very interesting twist to that. Fed.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
So my middle toe on my left foot is purple still.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
Oh christ Man, but do you have like a futtle
splint on it.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
No, I'm just some fucking raw dog and it I've
broken so many toes that I just I know that
they just fucking you just do nothing and they feel
themselves against What.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Do you mean, how many toes have you broke broken
in your life? That is a very odd thing.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
This is like number five, I think, say one or
different ones every time, different ones.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
I've broken both of my pinky toes and both of
my big toes, and this is the first time it's
been a middle toe. I've also broken my foot and
two fingers and these with this finger is still crooked.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I have never broken a bone. Oh look, you seem
like are you seem like a disaster person?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Unbreakable? Unbreakable man?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
No, no, uh, you know the cancer and everything. So
I think that theory goes out the window.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, but you beat it, that's true.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
The diabetes thing though still working all that one, so
partially breakable, fragile, but you know, fragile but sturdy a
bull baby.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I don't know, well, Loiter and Reuter.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
That's why I've broken anything?

Speaker 2 (11:54):
No, is that?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Like, what the hell are you doing that? You're breaking
your fucking toes all the time.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Well, the other four are from doing martial arts.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Okay, I suppose that makes more sense.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
Actually a lot more Sorry, it's three of the other
four from martial arts. One of them basically same thing happened.
I tripped, I stubbed my pinky toe and it went
it was like like.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
This, it was like sticking out kind of sideways. It was.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
It was Labor Day twenty eleven, and I got my
roommate who had a car to drive me to the hospital.
And hospital on labor day is fucking weird because people
like are coming in with their barbecue injuries and stuff.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
A lot of firework injuries or something.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
Yeah, some guy had like a nail in his hand
ooh and and so I went in and I was like, hey,
hey man, it looks like this toe is just dislocated,
so can you pop it back in? And he's like
trying to pull it to pop back in, not poping
back in. He x raysed it no break. The x

(13:00):
rays like the just the this, the this part, like
the last digit and he's like, it's not pop meck
in And I don't see a break, so what's going on?

Speaker 2 (13:08):
And he's like, wait a minute, and then again the
whole foot.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, and what it happened was stubbing the toe shot
the the the one digit into the other digit and
it split it like Robin Hood and the arrow.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Oh Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, it was bad. It was not good.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
But I also know that it's that walking into things
is a sign of autism. So I'm saving some I'm
saving emails. I am aware now that this is a warning.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Yes, oh I feel like that that that is horrible.
I again, never broke in a boat, I know, and
it's not something. It's like I got a water know
but don't at the exact same.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
Time, both related to ADHD and autism. It's called postural sway.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Okay, sure, but you know.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
I think you haven't broken anything. It sucks.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yeah, it doesn't seem like a good time.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yeah, breaking my foot was the worst.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
So you know, I'm gonna knock on wood, knock on
wood that I never break anything.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
But but I was.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
I was like, I'm basically fine. The toe is still purple.
But I like, don't it doesn't hurt.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I was like, doesn't it hurt?

Speaker 2 (14:24):
No, I mean it hurt.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
On Friday and Saturday, but not not today.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Oh man, fuck yeah, I can see what I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
What was the good part? I guess a free trip
to Austin for no appara trip.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
To Austin and I saw a final destination bloodline.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Ah. Yes, you texted me.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
About Rubenstein recommends that movie is dumb as dog ship.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
I cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
It is on the list so fun.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Is it a universal put that out or what I believe?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
So yeah, I think it's universal.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
So that'll be peacock. In to second two months, I went,
I just gonna get destroyed by Dead Reckoning this weekend.
People are gonna be like, oh right, that movie, like
good for them that they were the box office king
for the weekend, but like not the week before Dead
Reckoning and you you thought you were gonna make I mean,
I'm sure the movie did.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
The movie about forty I. So I went with my
friend who is also in the industry, and he lives
in Hollywood about five blocks from the Chinese Theater. Okay,
and so we went to the Chinese Theater Imax, which
is a fun theater. Oh and but I like went
to his house and he's like, oh, well, walk And

(15:36):
then when we got outside, he's like, God, it's a
little cold, let's drive. And we didn't know that the
uh they were setting up for the Dead Reckoning premiere
on Hollywood Boulevard. So it took us over a half
an hour to drive five blocks.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
That's LA traffic for you.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
I guess we missed the first five I think the
first minute of the movie. We missed all the trailers
and the first first minute of the movie.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Well, how did you understand anything that was happening?

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Had I've had I seen that, it would have made
much more sense.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's extra extra star on letterbox.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Yeah, I gave it four. I'm a big I was
a big big I Final Destination fan.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
We are big Final Destination fans in this house. We
they're kind of like a go to you just want
something kind of mindless on both to like casually consumer,
but we've also seen it a hundred times, so it's
just like this one.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
It's fun funnier this one. This one knows how funny
it is.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
And actually at least was in the trailer, unless it's
one of those classic in the commercial spud not actually
in the movie. Tony Todd is actually in this one.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
He is, he is in it. And I leaned over
to Leanne and I was like, for real, this time,
Tony Todd is dead because I as I was wrong
about del Roy Lindo.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yes, no, no, no, this one.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
This one. I swear to god Tony Todd really is dead.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
I swear to god, Alan Alda is dead.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
He's a lie. I know.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Again, listeners, unless after we still got how many weeks
until we'll close the loop?

Speaker 3 (17:10):
A couple of weeks, A couple of weeks. We gotta
gotta gotta wait that one out. Yeah, so you know,
all in all, a mixed bag, broken bone.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
That doesn't sound fun, but I'm glad you're not in
pain at least.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Yeah, I'm feeling feeling great.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
That is a weird visual you put in my head
with the arrow splitting thing with the boats, So thank you,
thank you for putting that photo that like, I Nope,
I do not want to fucking see it. So now
that that body horror is out of the way, onto
the main event, you put that fucking camera.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Back on, Sir, I think I just lost power.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
No, that's a lie, because I could still hear you.
On to the main events where we are gonna be
viewing and reviewing. Season seventeen, episode seven of sv YOU
entitled Patrimonial Burden. Yikes on bikes. But we're gonna do
that right after this. All right, and we're back, and

(18:07):
like we said before the break, we're gonna be viewing
and reviewing Season seventeen eight, episode seven of SVU entitled
Patrimonial Burden. Oh yeah, the look has just come over
a view's face where he realizes that he's gonna have
to do a ninety second recap. Just remindra toory listeners.
All of the episodes are available to watch on Hulu
and Peacock, or most of them up to this point,

(18:28):
all the ones that we're watching. Excuse me, before Vive
goes and says like, well, it's not all of them,
all of these episodes that we're reviewing so far.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
This one today specifically, yes.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Helpful on Hulu and Peacock. Unfortunately, but before we get
into breaking down the podcast, in the greatest radition that
we have on this podcast vive, No, we're breaking down
the episode, not the podcast.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I was gonna let it go.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Noh yeah. Before we get into breaking down the episode,
we are God damn it. Before we get into breaking.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Down, take your time, mat take your time. In the
greatest tradition, I think, what's song as you one?

Speaker 1 (19:08):
In the greatest tradition that we have on this podcast
of VI if you are gonna hit us with the
ninety second recap of what happened in this week's episode,
so aviv, we're gonna put ninety seconds on the clock.
Why did you tell us what the fuck happened in
this week's episode of SVU?

Speaker 2 (19:22):
Good God, Lemit, good god, lemon.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Indeed, Okay, you guys, there's a child bride who looks
like she's about to marry her dad. Oh no, wait,
she's making a celibacy promise. Much less weird. It's at
a virtue ball. He is the father of thirteen children.
Kind of uh, and he's the star of the reality

(19:48):
show Bakers, doesn't it's clever?

Speaker 1 (19:52):
I gotta I gotta give it up for that.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
They go to New York for this virtue ball because
where else would you go? And U and she this
little girl while dancing with her dad, she says, Daddy,
I'm not gonna do that. In this episode passes out
like Rollins did last episode, which which it tells me
in film language that she is also pregnant. And it

(20:16):
turns out she is also pregnant. She's thirteen, She's pregnant,
and I oh god. And so the parents don't call
the police, but the doctor does because clearly she's thirteen
and pregnant, and the family is like, not to sound rude,
but fuck you pig. Also, our pastor is here from Allenville.

(20:39):
He's also our lawyer, So get fucked weird. Nothing weird
about that. And so she like, I don't know. Cover
their evangelical basis. Mike Dodds keeps talking about how the
exact same thing happened with the Hasidics and Crown Heights, like, yeah,

(20:59):
they can know. No matter what religion you are, you
shouldn't be impregnating thirteen year olds. Like as a Jewish person,
that doesn't. That doesn't bother me to say that, but sure,
and so everyone gets but Rollins gets to go their
their main camera guy, Chris Elliot from Cabin Boy himself,

(21:19):
Chris Elliott is using his fucking easy rig wrong. But
the little girl says that she had sexual activity with him,
and so they arrest him and he's like, fucking what, No,
I didn't have sexual activity with Go look at my tapes.
And they look at his tapes and he was definitely
like filming these teenage girls as they were undressing in

(21:41):
the bathroom and he's like, listen, I'm producing a reality
TV show, Like I'm gonna see some underage teddies. Should
I have erased that?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Maybe?

Speaker 3 (21:50):
And they're like, we need your DNA so we can
see if you're this this kid's father. And he's like,
oh my DNA, yeah, no problem I had if that's
like to be ten years ago. So like, get fucked pig,
And so they then they turn their sights to the
eldest boy of this family, Graham, who uh on the

(22:13):
tape on Chris Elliot's tapes was like groping the piano teacher.
He's like a kind of a piece of shit, such
a piece of shit that that he gets sent from
Allenville to this camp called Camp Righteous Path, where some
elder at the church is like, he needs to be
around other young men to just lets him come out,

(22:35):
and so that didn't quite work. They there's like a
deep throat esque delivery of Graham's juvenile record and before
they can arrest him or compel his DNA, turns out
he's en route to Ecuador for some mission work. Missionary work,
what did I say? And so there's something weird about

(22:58):
the extradition in Ecuador and they're like, well, Graham definitely
got one of his sister's pregnant when maybe he got
one of the other sisters pregnant, and Olivia is like,
what the crimes could have happened in the past, And
so they they get through like the weirdest mcguffin. They
already have the youngest kid in his family's DNA because

(23:19):
he drooled on Carease's coat and Creasey is a is
a gross human who didn't wash it. And so they
they discover that this youngest kid is not the kid
of the mom of the family, but is the kid
of the eldest daughter. And they're like, what about the
father is the father the brother and they're like, we

(23:40):
don't think so, and so it's the fucking pastor. It's
obviously the pastor. And so Robin's goes into like fake
labor and completely like takes the wind out of the
sails of this episode. But they go up to they
go up to this pastor's office in Harlem, and he's like, uh,
my DNA with a fucking warrant, you fucking pig, and

(24:02):
they're like, we have a warrant, you piece of shit.
He demonstrates that he does not understand the story of
Sodom and Gomorrah, and then as soon as the DNA
comes back, they go to arrest him. Turns out he's
marrying the thirteen year old. Oh I'm sorry, she just
turned fourteen today. It's perfectly legal, and so there's this
big grand standing. But eventually they just arrest the pastor

(24:25):
and he's like, none of this has gotta hold up.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
This is a godly marriage. Get the fuck out of here.
I love you, Laane.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
Not what you want to say when you're being arrested,
by the way, and then like offscreen immediately takes a
plea deal and Careese ends the episode like we have
like a like a double whammy of idiot of idiots
being idiots. Caresee's like when I was growing up, my
pre saved my life, but you only hear about the

(24:54):
priest raping kids. And not to be outdone, Mike Dodds
is like, when I joined SP I thought we'd be
taking rapists off the streets, not out of churches. And
Livy's like, what, dude, shut up, dick woll fuck.

Speaker 1 (25:08):
All of you if that's the takeaway that you like.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
He he's also the one that keeps talking about how
the Hasidics are raping the children.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
No, I don't think that's That's not what he's saying.
He was simply saying, like trying to get anything out
of these close knick communities, they're gonna close ranks, like
no one's gonna talk to us. That's what he was saying.
He wasn't saying because he's he wasn't working.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
And he was saying that they accused the rabbi.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
They thought they liked the rabbi for it, and no
one would die on the rabbi. He literally talks about
this rabbi raping people. Was rape act earlier?

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Was it raping? Or it was like murder or something
like that, because he I think it was. Then why
wouldn't that be an SVU case?

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Great fucking quest question?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
So that doesn't make because he's just new to ask
for you, So why is he you know, like, that
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I agree, That's why it can't be.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
They wouldn't. They wouldn't be talking.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
They wouldn't. You don't think the show would be that stupid?

Speaker 1 (26:12):
I mean they I if they fucking shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
But sure about five minutes ago.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
No, I'm not. I it's this episode is so.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
It's pretty compelling, but our cops are fucking moron.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Well that too, it's just so icky.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
So all right, so I.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Will and I didn't mention this, but we will mention
that Rolin solves the case by just watching the reality show.
And she mentions that she was watching the reality show
because she's on desk duty. Bitch, you have a job
to do. Desk duty, doesn't there's still shit to do
inside of the police.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Dude, I means I just get to sit around watching
Netflix all day. It's research anyway, soone go get me
some some pickles and fucking something else.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
I don't know. It's what are pregnant ladies like Nika Morrow.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Right, No, so, all right, I guess I should. I
will get this out of the way up front here. Uh,
this episode was so icky to be because, uh, not
exactly like this, but certainly there are elements of this.
Cassie was raised very religious like kind of feels and

(27:25):
got eventually, you know, got out.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Of deep programs.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Right, yeah, I mean uh so, but you know she'll
talk about a lot of her time in groups like this,
and it's, uh, it's pretty weird, fucking icky watching this
week's episode.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
The town that we grew up and had one of
these churches in it.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Yeah, the the this is this is worse significantly.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Cassie or this or this episode.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Cassie's and uh and this, this episode far worse than that. Yes,
you are, you're yeah, you're You're not wrong in a lot.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Of ways, but it's it's all, it's all at a scale.
I also, I probably wouldn't have mentioned that I went
to Austin except for to mention this while I was
walking through the Austin airport, like I definitely saw a
child bride.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, it's just the whole idea. It's like you get
a whole bunch of kids and tell them that they
really just want to fuck, so they'll just get married
and then they'll just be the in this weird little
factory of like, well we are are We're just stunted
at eighteen.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. My my friend Colleen doesn't know
how to drive. I promise I will, I will land
this plane. My friend Colleen don't know how to drive.
And she's she's in her mid thirties, but she like
is very afraid of learning how to drive. And we've
had conversations about this, where we teach kids to drive

(29:01):
before they like fully can understand their mortality and consequences
of things, and so it's like they, you know, when.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
We don't know any better. So it's like, Wow, I'm
excited to get behind the wheel of this death machine.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
And and we drive around like maniacs. And so I
think that like that's kind of what these churches are
doing with with like pregnant teenagers. They're like, oh, like
we're gonna we're gonna basically force breed this child before
she like really can understand what what we're doing is wrong.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, I mean it's again, I just keep thinking every
when I was watching this, I mean I was. There
was a lot I was like when I was going
through this, but I kept thinking about heretic and just
that whole thing, like the true like religion.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Heretic is control, especially control of women.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, and that just you know that, and it's all
again and it's like, well, you know, sure this was wrong,
but it is God's will. So that's we get a
like because you can you can justify and it's cult
behavior obviously, it's like it is you can just you
justify every bad things like well I'm the exception or
God said it's okay, so therefore it's okay. And and

(30:17):
the fact that anywhere in the country it is legal
for a grown as like here's the thing if even
if this guy somehow different movie, different scenario, Like even
if this guy was eighteen marrying a fourteen year old,
I'm like, that's like just a day over, like the eighteenth,

(30:40):
and it's like, great, I'm marrying her on her fourteenth birthday.
We have the same birthday four years apart. Even then,
I'm like pretty icky, that's not good, Like I don't
want that. There's no scenario this should be okay.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
It's not as bad.

Speaker 3 (30:56):
Let's let's I mean, like sure, I know, I know
we're sort of splitting hairs at the at the at
like the grossest thing ever.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
But yeah, I think it does feel a bit of
like the Pedophile or.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
The but it it's it's weird, how calculated and like
the grooming and all this other shit like so even
and I and I think the show agrees with us
even this like celibacy virtue ball thing.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
It's a marriage, that's just grooming.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
You're marrying, You're you're setting this.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Up like mar she she's wearing a wedding dress in that,
but not in the scene where she's about to get married.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Which is wild.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, so I think that the show like gets it
for what.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, no, I I think they do. And this is
obviously there had to have been a rip from the
headlines on this one because it's yeah, because they well
they name check the doggers in the episode.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Too, and you know that means that's the rip from
the head exactly. So that's why I got, I got,
I got plenty of dugger facts for us.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Okay, yeah, so for anyone they didn't know. But anyway,
so this is that was our preamble to this very icky,
semi triggering in Weird Ways episode. So anyone that's got
religious trauma, strap strap in, because it's been a while
chalk fucking full of some really disgusting stuff. By the way,

(32:26):
I think it was New York. Don't quote beyond this,
but just recently, I think indirect reference to this episode
like banned child bride marriages or they.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Like, oh wow, what a strong stance. I know.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I think it was New York. Don't quote that.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
That's not worth a google. I am not gonna.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
I saw that somewhere online and I don't remember this,
but it was like, oh no, it was Missouri. It
was Missouri. Excuse me, sure, and like that's again, like yay.
We also shouldn't be celebrating that, Like the fact.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
That we have to that you did the bare minimum
ia right.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
The fact that we have to celebrate that is really
the bigger problem here, not you know, which.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Is it's a little bit of a like welcome to
the party path.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Right a bit it's like, oh good, Like it does
feel a bit like I take care of you're supposed
to take care of you.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
You know, you're supposed to take care of your kids.
What do you want to cookie?

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
So my first note is on'm is that a child
bride turns out? Yet? Yes, we have a little girl.
She's thirteen.

Speaker 3 (33:27):
She's wearing a wedding dress and marrying an adult man
who is her father. She's making a celabnoucy promise much
less weird than a marriage, and she's like, I promise
to not touch a wiener until you give me to
my husband.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
What?

Speaker 3 (33:45):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:45):
It's the fuck?

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Here's the thing. If you're not really paying that close
of attention to the audio, perhaps if you're distracted, but
you're just seeing the visuals, you're literally like, why is
the man marrying that child? And why is everyone there
to see this? It seems to be celebrating.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
It, like a look, there's a logo bug in the
corner that says Bakers doesn't in like the worst reality
show footage ever. I will explain in a second why
this reality show footage is so bad. But but we
we are in this show. It's called Baker's Dozen and
it's about a man Frank and his wife.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Who don't have a name.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Because Frank control your wife. That's your wife? Is the name?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:32):
And so and they have thirteen kids and their kind
of middleist one Lane not middleist in terms of quality.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
That's not what I was saying. I just thought that
was a funny way of saying that that why is there.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Those twins look weird? The the middle kid who is
just thirteen and she's going to New York for a
virtue and she gets to wear the same wedding dress
that her old her two older sisters or one older
sister wore when she also married their father.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
It's real weird. And they're doing like the cutaway scenes
where it's like, okay, now it's like the two sisters
with Lane, the newest child bride, and like why don't
we just put your hair up like this? And she's
like do you think father would approve? And I was like,
what the fuck is happening right now? I don't like
any of this.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
And then one of them says, quote, she'll never forget
this night with her daddy, and I.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Get it, what the fuck is happening here? And I
was like, why the fuck are you filming this? Why
sne we're doing anything?

Speaker 2 (35:41):
So this is a crime.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
These these so the all of these kids are not
strong actors. The twins look weird, which makes.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
It worse, you know, it makes it like it kind
of they're dead eyed, which makes it more kind of
believable because they're kind of just their Manchurian kids that
just like you know, yeah, they just follow the commands
because they fucking.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
It looks like it looks like a hostage video for sure.
They go they go father approve.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Oh oh oh, why are you talking? You stop stop,
stop talking like that.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
But you're dad from their small town in Allenville, New York,
which absolutely does not exist, and they go to the
big city for this ball because like a bunch of
a bunch of these girls are all doing the same thing,
which I know happens in real life, but.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
We always see there. Are you saying that there was
a bunch of like dugg Or esque families doing the
same thing at the same time.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
It's not necessarily that they have a bunch of kids,
but there are a bunch of other like religious families
where the daddies are marrying the daughters all at the time.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Oh right, speak at the fucking father dog. Excuse me,
the father dog Dan the first dance. If this were
a wedding.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
Of the husband and daughter.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Christ Oh, it's so gross.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
And so when we're there, we see the rest of
the camera crew, like, remember, this is a reality show,
and one guy in particular is using an easy rig
wrong and it's driving me fucking crazy. So an easy
rig is like something that keeps the camera steady, and
it looks like a big hook that comes out of

(37:20):
your back over your head and it holds the camera.
So you hold it steady, but you're supposed to keep
it at kind of like chest height because that's what
eyeline would be. You're like, like, because a camera films
something in the middle, everything below will be the same
as everything above. So if you shoot something at actual
eye level, there's a ton of headroom, right because you're

(37:43):
like framing for their body, but not that there's nothing
above their eyes and so or very little above their eyes.
And so he's like holding his easy rig like this,
and I'm like, who the what the fuck is this
person doing. Turns out it's Chris Elliot from Shit's Creek
Cabin Boy and SNL and stuff, And so the daddy

(38:04):
daughter dance happens, I mean, the husband and husband and
wife dance happens, and do you do you recognize the song.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
No, I didn't. What was it?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Unfortunately for me and my wife, it was somewhere out
there from an American Tale, which is the song that
Bill O'shay sang at our wedding.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Oh my god, a Eve, how do you feel today?

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Bad?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
So bad?

Speaker 1 (38:33):
Like who who are you mad at?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
More?

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Right now? I mean the rapists?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Well, I mean that's that's let's hold that constant.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Sure all we hold space for that.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yep, we're always mad at the rapist. That's what's just
assumed at this point.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I you know, I'm mad at the show.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah, because even though it came out significantly, you know
what better decade.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Ago, before, before, before my wedding. Yeah, but you know
that's a it's a song that I loved as a
kidne loved as a kid. I'm not don't fucking I'm
telling them talking the show, don't you do this to me?
Fuck you guys. And then the dad says, just one
of the worst things ever. You're so beautiful, just like
your mother, And instead of allowing that to permeate her brain,

(39:24):
Lane loses consciousness.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Maybe that was the reason she was like.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
That's oh, that's what I would do.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Oh fuck, oh fuck, oh fuck. I gotta get out
of here. I gotta get out of it.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
I gotta go play dead. So I said this in
this in the recap. But she's passed out just like
Rollins did last week. That must mean she's pregnant.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Fuck.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
I mean there was only one way there, because I
was like, is this a way? I because for a
second before she passed out, I was like, so is
this gonna be?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Like?

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Oh no, it turns out the dad raped the daughter.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
Who would have thought.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
I'm like, I don't know. That seems pretty open and
fucking shut. They were treating like, what did you think
was gonna happen at the end of the ceremony?

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Right, how did you think this night was going to get?

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Oh my god, she wasn't celibate at all. Give me
my ring back.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Right, like, And so whenever she passed out, I was like, well,
that's effectively the same thing, except where a little bit early.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
So so she's pregnant. She's about three months pregnant. The
cops show up, and the families like, why did the
cops show up? We didn't call you the fucking doctor did.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
And the fact that Live has to be like, yep, nope,
you didn't. This is a it's called mandatory report. You
may not be familiar with it.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Because you're from Alanville, a place that does not exist.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yes, And the fact that these kids look around like
they have been chained up underground for years, because like
they don't understand anything about their world.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
All room, all of them are just room.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Right, they kind of are so live has to explain
to the littleman like, yeah, you're thirteen year old's pregnant,
so you know.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
That shouldn't be bad legally, so you know, you know,
not to sound rude, but we're gonna handle this internally.
Get fucked. We're good parents. We watch over our children.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
And lives like yep, yep, again, you're not you're not
hearing it when you say it. It's there's gotta be
a better way of saying this. And then the pastor
shows up and they just run over to him and
she's like, I just can't get any fucking respect out
of here. What the hell's going on? And so the
pastors like as their pastor and as it turns out,
lawyer and then like hands up their cards.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Like Jesus fucking Christ.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I was like Why would your pastor also be your lawyer?

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Why why let me posit this to you? So oh
they Olivia is also like, could it be it? Could
it have been someone from school?

Speaker 2 (41:46):
And they're like, oh, heavens ste we hope, Oh heaven's
we homeschool. We have a faith based education.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
And so in my notes, I wrote, it's definitely the
pastor and the father and the brother and I'm not wrong.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
Bright it's a it's an environmental problem here.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
And so they say, look what happened with They go
back to SVU and they're like, uh, you know, this
is all fucked up.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Look what happened with the Douggers. So so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
I never dug in on the details, but I just like,
I was like, weird religious people sex scandal. I was like, yeah,
of course, like because that's because these are human beings.
People like I'm sorry, I don't care if you're the
most like godly person at the other day, you're a person.
Fucking power corrupts one.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Hundred percent totally.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
So so the Dugger Family is the show Nineteen Kids Encounting,
which started out as seventeen Kids Accounting and then eighteen
Kids Accounting and it was about the parents Michelle and
Jim Bob Dugger Jim Bob Dugger and their nineteen children,
and so Josh Dugger who was I believe their oldest.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
There's nineteen of them.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
I don't know, yeah, I die, I don't. Actually it
seems statistically low number, unlikely that he was the oldest.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
This isn't like a George Foreman situation, is it, where there's.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Like Jim Jimbob Jimbob Jimbob. So, yeah, Joshua is the
oldest one. And then Jubilee Shalom was the youngest one
and was still born because she found out what her.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Name would be is true name hard.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah, Jubilee Shalome was her name. And then slightly older
the nineteenth was Josie.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
I meant the still born joke, Yes.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
The stillborn, Yes, she was still born. What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Man?

Speaker 3 (43:36):
That's there's Josie, Jordan, Grace, Macaiah, Johanna, Faith, Jennifer, Danielle, Jackson, Levi, Justin, Samuel.
They're all ja names, which sucks, except for Caleb, who
was a miscarriage.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Damn holy shit.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
So Josh Dugger, yes, the oldest of the nineteen in
two thousand and three, molested his sisters. Oh fuck, he
touched touched. This is from the Actually Fox News. Touched
the breasts and genital regions of his sisters on multiple

(44:20):
occasions while they were sleeping and sometimes when they were awake.
Four of the molestation victims were Josh's siblings. He had
reached under the dress of a younger sister who was
in his lap, cornered a sister in the laundry room
to reach under her clothing, and touched a much younger
sister who, according to the Duggers, did not understand that

(44:40):
she had been improperly touched. The fifth victim was a babysitter, so.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
This this broke once the babysitter was touched.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
Well, this didn't come to light until twenty fifteen because
Josh was caught by his parents. His parents say that
they learned about his abusive behavior in March of two
thousand and two, and then he was disciplined at home.
They did not report his conduct to the police, and

(45:14):
then after they found so, he admitted to one of
touching one of the siblings. And then in March of
two thousand and three, the parents learned of the additional incidents,
and so, of course they learned their lesson that time,
and they brought the issue to the church elders.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
Oh what's that? So was it?

Speaker 3 (45:34):
And they they told their close friends, the Holt family,
because Josh was dating their daughter kay Kaylee. And the
reason I bring this up is, I want you to
spell Kaylee for me.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Ooh, Kaylee Holt. I mean Holt is.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Spelled normal, but uh, someone who would date Josh dugger.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
Okay, so they got to spell the name dumb. Uh huh.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
Okay, Oh God, Okay, here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
It's it's it's it's K.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I'm guessing it's sure. Yeah, they're definitely K people.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I don't know if they're they're three K people.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, yep, K is K.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
A mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Why shall I tell you now or when you're done? No,
tell me no E K A E L E I
G H.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
Don't love that, don't love that.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Don't love that.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
And so Josh was sent away from home for three months,
and during that time, Jim Bob told the police that
he was at the Veterans Affairs Hospital in Little Rock, Arkansas,
attending a counseling program run by a Christian ministery that
involved physical labor, but Michelle later told the police that

(46:55):
Josh was not involved in counseling. Instead, he was working
under a family friend helped to remodel the building of
the Veterans Affairs Hospital in Little Rock, Arkansas, and so
in in July two thousand and three, Josh returned home
and sixteen months after his initial confession, he took Josh

(47:19):
to meet and Arkansas State trooper there from Arkansas, Arkansas
State Trooper and this is when law enforcement was first
made aware of the abuse. So we can fast forward
to twenty fifteen. A freedom of information Act requested via

(47:39):
a freedom of information Act in Touch Weekly obtained a
redacted police report from the two thousand and three event,
and Josh Dugger, who was an adult at that at
that time, resigned his position at something called FRC.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I don't know what f R means, but by that
point the statute limitations was.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Up, yeah, and everyone knew. So it really broke when
Kaylee Holt loaned a book to her friend in two
thousand and six, and a letter that she had written
about Josh when she found out about his abuses were
was still in the book and so Kaylee's friend discovered

(48:25):
the evidence and called the Arkansas Child Abuse Hotline to
reveal his past misconduct to minors, and she also anonymously
emailed Oprah. Well, you know, because the Duggers were scheduled
to appear on Oprah, and so Oprah's Oprah. Well, I
don't think he's gonna rape Oprah. But Oprah's producers alerted

(48:48):
DHS and they canceled the appearance. But you're exactly right.
It had been more than three years, and under the
Arkansas Statute of Limitations, child sex abuse charges must be
within three years of being reported to a police officer.
And they had missed it by five months.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
How convenient?

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Huh crazy how that worked? And so Josh Duger also
in twenty fifteen, had his data breached via the Ashley
Madison data breach.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Do you remember this?

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (49:21):
God, really?

Speaker 2 (49:22):
So Ashley.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Was a dating site that was like specifically for people
to cheat on their spouses, and it was supposed to
be like highly confidential. So of course it got hacked
and Josh Ducker's all of his information was released.

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Uh. Incredible, incredible work.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Yeah, Ashley Madison. There, I believe their motto was life
short having an affair.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
I believe so.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
And and in in a statement on the Dugger family website,
Josh admitted to watching pornography on the internet and being
unfaithful to his wife.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Wow, pretty getting off, pretty light if that's all you did.
I watched and fucked around with other women.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
And in November of twenty fifteen, which is after this
episode came out, a pornographic actress named Danicadyllon filed a
lawsuit against Josh Dougger, claiming that he had assaulted her
to the point of causing her physical and emotional injuries
during a sexual interaction in a Philadelphia strip club.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Stand up people, these dougers, let me tell you. And
that's just what we know about.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Yeah yeah, yeah, And it's turned out.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
And that was by accident.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
So just imagine she dropped that lawsuit because the date
that she alleged that this happened, there was evidence that
Dougger was not in Philadelphia at the time. Sure, am,
I wanted on record that I'm not saying that this
didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Oh uh.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
And then he uh, he had child porn and was
arrested in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Oh there you go. Fuck that soh yeah, fuck.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
I mean like like not not that this guy was
like a great guy before that, but very clearly you
don't just like row out.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Of this, right uh and yeah, it's uh again this
that's the reality and that's like again that's the reality
show and the whole bit. But sure outside of where
the cameras are rolling, this dynamic exists.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
And the church exists in these communities specifically to shield
people like this from ever having any sort of accountability.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yes, just a quick call it an aside or just observation.
We'll call it an observation. Observation isn't one of like
the big tenets of a lot of these religions, like
the hardcore people where it's like, you know, you gotta
always be watching out for Charlatan's and people that will
trip you, like the devil.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Will when the devil comes, he comes quoting scripture right.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
And it's uh, you know, it's it's these people seem
to be awful susceptible, so not spotting those type of
people the wolf.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Fine, they're fine, they're good. They're fine, they're good.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Can you imagine like in a lot of ways to
be And again, like I'm a Gemstones fan stuff, Like
I love that satire and.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Sea Gemstones is a great satire and they do a
good job of humanizing but not endorsing all of the
fucking horrible ship that these megachurch people do, right.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
And you know, at the end of the day, the
I feel like the Gemstones are portrayed. I mean, they're
they're largely mobsters, but they're not like this level of monsters.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
And and at and at the onset of I like
resisted watching Gemstones for a while because I was worried
that they would be like matimes people look cool or
like heroes or whatever.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
No, no, no, no, but like you know, in a lot
of ways, it seems like the structure of a lot
of these religious organizations. It's it's very much like we
were talking about a couple of weeks ago with the
police are set up like a gang or like like you.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Know, this is also just a gang, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
Or like the mafia in a lot of wasyse like
it kind of seems like it's set up this way
as well. They're just like little mini franchise versions of it,
you know.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
And and and this this has like a very mafia
like these religious communities have like a really mafia like
organization where they have like these church elders who are
never to be questioned and the kids of the church
elders are untouchable, and you know, it's like it's it
is uh, basically one to one the fucking Goodfellas or something.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Yeah. And again, if people come to you like, oh,
it's but it's God. But it's set up in the
same way as a fucking as a mafia structure, you
should maybe be concerned and think about this a little bit.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, just just say it.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
Which reminds me of I think the basically the only
scene in the Sopranos that I've ever seen, which is
a woman pays Tony and his and his buddies to
to beat up a member of their religious community Jewish
Jewish religious community because he's touching little girls and uh,

(54:08):
and they they break his hands and stuff, and you know,
it's always good. I'm like very extremely anti police and
anti like police beating people up.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
However, but if the mafia does it.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
It's it's nice to see a pedophile get his brains beat.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
It by who.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
It doesn't matter, doesn't matter anyone. It's a real let
them fight situation. So uh so they they name check
the Duggers and after all this they don't read the
Wikipedia entry. But but Criese's like, hey man, they're entitled
to their beliefs, are they?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Though?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Again, as I say, titled to that belief.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
As I just previously said, it's the mafia under the
guise of God, which allows them to do it in
the same way Tony Soprano's bottom.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Bing with auto suol immunity. Basically, yeah, the bottom being
auto shop.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
You realize it's not really an I mean, it might
operate this much, but that's not why they have it, right,
It's like the God part is not It's so they don't.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Have to pay the money.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Yeah, like you do understand this.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I'm clearly they don't like a lot of people just
don't want to go there.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Okay, that's a boy.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
That's life is a lot easier when you don't have
to worry about this stuff.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
You're you're police detectives.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
You say, well, well they're paid to go there.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
And Mike Dodds is like, you know, the same thing
happened and with the Hasidium and Crown Heights, and you
know it was tough. They were also impregnating thirteen year
old girls, and everyone's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Oh that's probably that's why.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
All right, So but why was he on SVU in Brooklyn?

Speaker 2 (55:58):
The dude, I know, but he was on anti crime.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
We just they forgot that line from last week.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Yeah, and so so there's like this pregnant pause and
everyone's like, yeah, that was wrong too. I don't know
why we're talking about this really.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
It really Dodd's basically said like, we're never gonna solve
this one, so fuck it. Yeah yeah right, He's like,
let's just boot this to uh yeah, we'll let fucking
the police up and wherever the fuck they're from Alderwood
or was it.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
And over what is it? Alanville?

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Alan Town? Yeah, they go up to alan Town there
and uh, you know, we'll just do that. It lives
like there was a crime committed. You're here, you're a police,
you are like the deputed chief's son, And how did
you get this far if your approach to crime is like, well,
it's not gonna be easy to solve.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Yeah, as my dad always says, he does a to
My dad always says, in one episode, shut up, dude,
I know, But in this one he says, it's like
my father says, pick your battles.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
It's like, yeah, but when you say that every time,
that's no longer just picking. If you never pick an
actual battle, that's just punting responsibility.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
You know, if you don't stand for anything, what will
you fall for?

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Right, So and again Live has to be the one
to be like, yeah, thanks, you told us about the
juice twice. We understand.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
So she sends Dodds Jess like, Dodds, go anywhere else
other than here, and Finn they go to the hospital
to try to get a statement from Lame the little
girl who's pregnant and she's not. Robins wants to go,
and Olivia's like, uh, Cariesy and Finn and Dodds you

(57:48):
can go, Amaro can go, Munch can go, Cassidy can go,
Cassie's brother can go.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
Who shot that kid? Every basically everyone but Rollins, Uh, no,
you're still you're still kick.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
Who's the lady that stayblor fucked in his car?

Speaker 1 (58:05):
You can go, Toddie Neilson, Contie, yeah, Conti no, Beck,
Detective Beck.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
Detective Bet Danny Beck, Danny Beck, yes, and so uh
they go to the they talked to like, I mean,
let's let's be real, a twink and he's a he's
a nurse, and he's like, They're like, we'd like to
talk to Lane and dugger Lane Baker. And he's like, oh,

(58:30):
she left, she left a half an hour ago.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
We were supposed to call you.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
I'm just seeing this post it right now. I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
I didn't know I had just gotten here.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
I hadn't looked at the post its yet. Fun Well, anyway, yeah,
I know it's a thirteen year old pregnant girl, but
I didn't keep track of in any way, shape or form.
That's fine because the parents said it was cool and
that creepy looking pastor dude as they left.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
And there was a camera filming them.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Nothing suspicious about that at all.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
So they got to catch what it must be like
their bus, like like they have a bus.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Yeah, that's like whenever we got the opening shot of
whenever they got to New York. And again I'm like,
why would you do this in New York City?

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Like he.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Literally it's like, yeah, we'll have your purity ceremony in
a pile of shit, Like that's not how these because again,
because they're.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Not go to the fucking plantation house in New Orleans
that just burnt down.

Speaker 1 (59:29):
Oops. You know it's just none of this again, it
just rinks of corruption. I'm sorry, Like it's like, how
do you people not see through this?

Speaker 3 (59:37):
Why?

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Was like, We're gonna go to New York City, the
place that we spend so much time saying it's just
like a the worst fucking hell pit for people, but
we want to go there, like.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
You, I agree, I think New York is a hell
pit and I don't want to go there, but I
wouldn't go marry my daughter there, even I even I.
And so Chris Elliott is filming them in his fucking
dumb hand using the easy ring wrong and all of
the all of the bakers are standing around holding hands,

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praying by the bus.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Yeah, does the have they rested? Crass? Eliott?

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
No, So they they they basically threatened to make a
scene because people are recognized them from TV and are
filming them with their phones, and Careese is like, hey,
you're gonna come with us, and they're like, we are
absolutely not. He's like, listen, we can make this like
really embarrassing for you. And people are already starting to notice.
So like you might as well just come with us now.

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Cut to fucking twelve kids in the in the goddamn Brits.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
It's fucking Daddy Dakar daycare with cares and he's just like,
oh boy, I am in over my head here. He
opens a soda and they're like, we're not allowed to
have soda. He's like, you sons of bitches.

Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
You could have said that before I opened it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Before I bought it from the fucking vending machine.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
Thanks, it's it's coola, sona. You know how much that costs.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
I don't even know fifteen cents? What is this machine
book charge in these days? He's like, all right, how
many people can have pizza? And they always right. He's like, great,
we're gonna get pizza. Hey, Graham, the weird one, why
don't you come help me with the pizza.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Graham's like, hey, can we get pepperoni?

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
It's like sure, shut and they walk by like the
holding sale. He's like, is that to lock people up
in there? And I was like, why does this kid
act like he is?

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
He's we got another nell, got another nell in our hands?

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Like he he acts like I'm surprised. He's like, what's
the big shiny thing in the fucking sky today. That's
the sun you see ring the bell I swear to
God increased. He's like, yeah, man, you do know you're
in a police.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Station right, like people are in trouble, right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Your gun badge, the whole bit you've seen TV. Maybe
not okay?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Fair enough? All right?

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
He's like, so look, uh, what happened with your sister.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
He's like, Yo, I'm not supposed to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
However, we were here three months ago. We were painting
over black and Latino art, I mean graffiti, and so
that's like when she got pregnant, is like she was
basically alone with me and our dad and the pastor.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Like I fucking knew it anyway, I fucking knew it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
How about the pizza, the pepperoni? He's like, yeah, okay, bud,
let's uh.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
Meanwhile, Rollins, because she's on desk duty, gets to interview
Pam Baker, and Pam's like, how far along are you?
Your husband doesn't mind you working among all these men.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
I so you're not wearing a wedding grim. It must
be because your hands are swollen, what with the pregnancy
and Rollin's is just like, your thirteen year old daughter
is pregnant.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
Why do you give a sh what's going on over here? Priorities, bitch,
your priority in this moment is to shade me for
being and like pregnant without a husband.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
You actually don't know anything about her.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
She thinks she assumes that that Robin's is pregnant because
she's like, oh, because your rings, your finger your fingers
are fat because of the swelling. Or is like or
is that shit. I don't think that's shade. I think
she's just dumb and and and narrow minded.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
And so speaking about dumb and narrow minded, they talked
to Lane and Lane's like, well, being pregnant is me.
Being pregnant is God's will. And Olivia's like, but you
do know how you got pregnant, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
And she's like She's like, yes, I engaged in sexual contact.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I had sexual activities, which she says.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
And it's like that is a weird way of saying.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
That, and Olivia's like, listen, it doesn't mean you're a
bad person. God will forgive you. This isn't your fault.
And she's like, oh, that's weird. That's what he told me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Like again, girl, okay, Molly, you a danger cirl, right,
like this is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
This is very frustrating. Okay, so who told you that?
And let me guess they told you not to tell
anyone like that. That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
Right again, how did you know that? That's that's wow?

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
You amazing and lives like Okay, that sins you don't
have critical thinking skills?

Speaker 2 (01:04:29):
What if?

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
What if instead you just write it down? Because that was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Not write it down exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
And she's like, well, you lawyered your way into this,
I guess, detective pens and so give me that pen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
But I actually think that this is kind of a
good move on the show's part because this shows how
extremely not ready for sex this girl.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, because before she gives her the pen, she asks like, Okay,
is it someone you know?

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Is it someone in your family?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Dude? No? Why would you Why would you even say that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Is it someone in your family? Why don't you write
it down? Why don't you have ce?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
And so she says that it's the camera guy. Fucking
of course it was the guy. He does know how
to use the easy rate.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Jesus Christ and her older sister is named Timber t
y M b E R.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Oh, I don't. I don't care for that at all.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
We had a timber like two episodes ago he got shanked.
But uh, they're talking to Chris Elliott, who's the camera
guy who's like the biggest guest star in the show.
So we are predisposed to assume that he thinks that
he's he did it, and he's like, do I need
a lawyer?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
He's like, you didn't do anything wrong, right, so you
don't need a lawyer, right?

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
No, I think the dad that's the line of the dad.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Always says that to the dad.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
Yeah. Because Chris Elliot's starting to put all the uh
the equipment.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Away and oh right, because he's telling everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
He's like, what will happen is they'll send him away
for like three We'll be back up and running in
like a week. Don't you worry about this?

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Don't you worry? I don't worry about it. I've been
around the block.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
This sex scandal with this family.

Speaker 2 (01:06:04):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:04):
And this is where they come up and they give
him a ward. They take a DNA and they're like,
come with.

Speaker 3 (01:06:09):
Us, yeah, And so he is maintaining his innocence just
like a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Well, because again whenever they show up with a DNA
swab and he's like, why do you need this? Don't
you need a warrant? Here's a ward And they're like
and then he says something to the fact of like, well,
why are you doing this? And they're like, because she's
accusing you, you fucking idiot, of raping her.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
We got a pregnant thirteen year old girl and I'm
here with a warrant to take your DNA. Where do
you think this is going?

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
Me? Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
You you you fucking yes, what get the fucking car?

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
And so they confiscate all of his footage and they
find child not great stuff and and Pam is like,
pis a our longtime cameraman. He would never do this,
and and Frank the dad is like, I want five
minutes alone with him to kiss yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
And Dods is like, hey man, I'm right there with you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
But uh, I do not like miche, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
I don't think I could do that for you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
They want to give They want to give Layne an
amniocentesis so they can test the blood of the baby
to see test the DNA of the baby to see
if Chris Elliot's character, whose name is Pete. Pete Matthews
is the father and the parents are like, no, an
amnio can threaten the life of an unborn shot, can it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
I think? Lavis like it's a very very very minimal.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Risk, and she's like, okay, science, okay. She's like, okay,
I'll do a blood test. I don't want anything invasive.
A fucking blood test is in vain. I guess technically sure,
and then she's like, okay, you well, then we'll wait
fucking six months until she gives birth and then test
his DNA. But then he has six months to like

(01:07:57):
fucking run. She's like the pam. The mom is like,
you have to find another way. I gave you two
other ways a fucking amnios andiesis.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
Yeah, and then she literally says, why can't you just
make him confess. I'm like, lady, that's not how confessions work.
I mean, it's not how confessions should work.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Yes, she's she's ultra religious and fascist, so at least
that makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
I gotta understand. Let's just say that he did it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
And then he says he did it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Just put him in jail without due process. Anyway, my
daughter said, he did it certainly my weird husband or
my clearly rapist paster and lawyer who is far.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Too closed to me, and send him a demo. And
so they the review Chris Elliott's tapes. And for an
innocent man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
He should make some kitty porn very easily and without
any awareness that what he's doing is in fact revealing
a federal crime.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
So he had set up a camera in the in
the bathroom of the Baker home specifically, I don't know
if all fucking fifteen of them share a bathroom, but
the girl's bathroom, and he sees the one or two
elder girls, you know, changing and one of them's fifteen,

(01:09:18):
and he's like, listen, I'm running a show here. I
gotta set up cameras. Very clearly, there are no cameras
in the bathrooms of any of these shows. Like, if
you've ever watched a reality show like this, you know
that they don't have cameras in the bathrooms for this
exact reason.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
Whatever do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
He's like, should I have erased?

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Probably was that wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
I gotta plea nicers on this one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:46):
Really getting dressed, and it's like they keep taking off
their clothes, he's like dressed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
I watched this in reverse. I'm shocked, shocked.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
I tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
It's not him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:58):
Because they said, Okay, we're gonna take your DNA and
and prue when your DNA comes back, we're gonna prove
that you're this kid's father. He's like, oh five, wait
what Oh then I definitely you don't have shit on me.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Because he specifically it was like, oh, so she really
is pregnant, so like it's there's already he.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Was expecting her to him, to them to lie.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
To him, or or it was like I don't know,
maybe he was sarry, he.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Rapped her after someone else raped her.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Maybe he like then he turns into a witness perhaps,
but like, oh well then he immediately turns over.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Well then I will help you. Yeah, oh oh.

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah, asectomy, I'm good, and they're just like your doctor
will confirm that. He's like, yeah, like that's a pretty ballsy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
I'll come in a cup right now for you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
That's a pretty ballsy bluff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Yeah, he's and he's a pretty good actor. I basically
have never seen him in a dramatic role except for this.
And he holds his own he's good. He's pretty good. Yeah, sure,
but he says, I have I have some fucked up
things that I've seen in and I've saved it to
the cloud, you know, just in case one of them
becomes president one day. And so if you let me

(01:11:10):
show it to you, I'll show you this. This family
protects their own. And it turns out that the brother Graham,
who is described as a fine young boy, is grabbing
the breasts of the piano teacher, and Amanda Rollins is like, oh,
so that's why the piano teacher left that way for

(01:11:31):
that season.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Yeah, And it's like this footage where the piano teacher
is teaching one of the other girls and the Graham
kid comes in and I forget the line is up
to the effect of he just comes up behind her.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
She's sitting in a chair and he's like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
I'll bet you I can I can touch under like
I can touch your kits under your shirt without touching him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
I'm like, what does that even me?

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Reel like, I'm not I'm not touching, I'm not hitting you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
But it's like at that point, like, dude, you might
as well just feel because that's the dumbest thing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
And then he does, and then he does, and the
sisters like, it's not funny. It's never been funny. So
clearly this is like a you know, a repeated thing.
But the parents knew it. The parents took care of it.
They got him on the straight and narrow. They sent
him to quote Camp Righteous Path.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Boy just it's a I think refers to it as
like a reform a religious reform school academy thing, and
I'm like, oh, what could possibly go wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
With the jeez? Yeah, And so that they go up
to Allenville, Finn and cares to kind of figure out
what the fuck this Camp Righteous Path is. They go
golfing or they they find uh, Frank and the lawyer's father.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Like the one of the elders of the church.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
He's a church elder, and he's also the judge in the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Town, right right, right, he's the judge.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
And so, uh, they say, Graham is a fine young boy,
and I sent him to this camp right just Path
as an elder of the church, not as a judge.
And Creasy's like, oh, that's why there's no legal record
of it. He's like, so you've been snooping. He's like,
I'm a detective.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
This is my I've been doing my job.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
Yes, And and this is where Cariesy's like weaponizing his
mookishness in a good way.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Yeah, Like Mouke Colombo, just stop thing thing Yanna. It's
really bad that you're making a legal orcuby right now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
So fucking weird. And so uh his father and the
church elder like, listen, he needed to be around your
other young men to just like let him come out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
I don't know, yes, I believe blow off some steam
is what the phrase.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Used, some some his Yeah, he was.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
He was clearly tried to eventually, you know, probably rape
one of these girls. So we just to just put
him in a bunch of horny boys and tell them
that it's wrong and see.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
What happens, rap him or something.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Either way, he came, he came back fine, right path
excuse me, I have to go ahead and join the
rest of this golfing group, which is where we find
out that one of the other church elders is the
pastor slash Lawyer's dad father.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Yeah, And so Finn's like, let's get the fuck out
of here. I hate golf, I hate where whatever this
place is, and I fucking hate the cat skills, and
so as they're driving out of town, they get pulled over.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
I think Finn's gonna get shot in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Yeah, it's funny because they get a phone call, or
Karsa gets a phone call rather from live where she
advises him we don't hear it. It's just the one
sided phone call thing where he's like, ah, she said
to to watch our backs and then wouldn't you know it,
as soon as that line happens, they get pulled over.

Speaker 3 (01:14:58):
But he's like, hey man, we're on the job. He's like,
I don't give a shit. And he looks at Finn's
ID and then hands him an envelope and I'm like it,
are they bribing him? Turns out no, it's Graham's juvenile
delinquency records.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Which is cool a lot. Yeah, and so Crissey says
some defects like, oh not everyone's in the pocket of
whatever the fuck these people's names.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Are the Bakers.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
The Baker's all right, the Baker's doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Correct and uh.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
And so we come back from commercial and they go
to talk to the pastor again about getting like like
finding Graham, and the pastor is in like a church
circle a Llah Writestemstones, and he's saying, quote, those who
revile your belief in Christ will be shamed. Dudes. I

(01:15:54):
cannot stress this enough. No one gives a shit about
your belief in Christ. Yeah, as someone who does not
believe in Christ, I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Shut up about it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
But they're being persecuted.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Vive, No, you're not shut up, but I am persecuting you.
But they're just shutting up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
But they're not getting their way. So they're being persecuted
because fuck what everyone else thinks or believes totally about
what they believe for thinks. Shut How dare you attack
me for being a Christian?

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
Shut up?

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
I'm gonna attack you for being annoying. So the pastor
is like, listen, Graham's a boy. He was going through pubery.
There are curiosities. I would love to let you talk
to him, but he's on route to Ecuador right now.

Speaker 1 (01:16:51):
So you know, sucks to suck.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Bye. They go back to SB. I guess the isn't
like super clear.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
But the pastor has an office in Harlem, which is
why everyone keeps like going to New York to meet with.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Him, which that doesn't stand out to anyone, but okay.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
Hey, sure, and we go back to su and Craty
says he read the extradition treaty with Ecuador. Quote, Swiss
cheese has less holes, but Swiss cheese has many, so
there's more holes. In other words, there's a lot of holes,

(01:17:32):
and then it has more holes than Swiss cheese. Yes,
it's just a weird way to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
It's a and it's a lot of We don't have
Barba in this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
But he's always talk about him all yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
It's always like, oh, we just got off the phone
with Barba. It's like, why didn't just bring him in?

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
I just got off the phone with Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (01:17:50):
Right, It's it felt a little bit like that, but
they said like, okay, we need to have like a
rock solid case before we can even think about trying
to extradite him from Ecuador. So dodds yea. It's just
like again, I can't help but bring up those pesky
Jews at one o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
I'm buying these Jews fucking did this. It was definitely
the rabbi, but we couldn't pin it on the rabbi
because the Jews.

Speaker 1 (01:18:12):
You know, and lives like that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Dodd's okay, and shut the fuck up. I want John
Munch to just like fly out of a closet and
punis him in the face.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Yeah, She's like, your objection is noted. Dodd's shut up.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
But then uh, Olivia's like, okay, he's raped, he raped Lane,
He's gonna rape someone else, like he's gonna do it again.
And then Amana Ron is like or he's done it before,
and Olivia gets this look on her face like she
has no idea that the past happened. She's like, wait, what,
You're a genius.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Yeah, And this is where Rollins is like, well, I've
binch watched the entire show, so I'm now an expert.
Here's the weird shit that went on. Whenever there was
a new child coming, there was a big announcement.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Episode three months.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Yeah, a three months, which I guess that's like the
standard amount you're supposed to start telling people is three months.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Uh. And for whatever reason, it was always there was
like most songs like two years in between or something
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:13):
Yeah, and there's only eleven months before this this this
youngest kid and this is like a picture of Pam.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
When she was allegedly seven seven months.

Speaker 3 (01:19:25):
Pregnant, and man rollins, when you were seven months pregnant,
you will fucking your bozongas well, bozong in And.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
I forget who it is is. It's like Caris shut.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
Up, shut up, shut the fuck up. Stop.

Speaker 3 (01:19:39):
And Pam in Summer, who they assume is the actual
mother of this youngest kid, went up to Michigan to
visit a sick ants right before this kid was born.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Yeah, and they were only seen on screen like well
or twice and via FaceTime.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
Yeah, and so uh, Carasee's like I actually do have
youngest kids DNA because when he was in the whatever
the fucking break room with daddy daycare, I gave him
my coat because he was cold and he drooled all
over it. And Livy's like, you didn't dry clean and
he's like, no, I've only worn it twice.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
I by the way, when it comes out with dry cleaning,
I've never felt more seen in my life. It's like
I don't want to take it every single time, like
it's fine, it's fine. I can't get if a kid
ruled all over it, I.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Would, Yeah you can go there, yeah, yeah, And so
you know we're late night everyone's left except for Olivia.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
And also.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Knots Dodds, and Olivia is like, oh working late, and
Dods is like, ah, my dad says, you can never
leave your desk until your boss, your male boss lifts
his girthy cock away from his desk masculinely. Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
And also women, oh you're you're here too, I see,
Oh my bad.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
And Olivia's like, okay, two things you need to know
about me in this pre One, we murder a lot
of people. Two Now, One is I like to keep
open lines of communication. And two is I'm usually right. Olivia,
you are never right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
No, it's the free exchange of ideas.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Oh sure, which is capitalist.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
Yeah, and I'm just usually right. That is no, not
at all true, not even approaching truth. A number of
people that you said everything's gonna be okay, I will
protect you, I will make ron dead people you are
O for a lifetime on that one, lady.

Speaker 3 (01:21:34):
There's an entire wing at the fucking cemetery for all
the people that you said you'd protect. And so they
test Crazy's jacket for DNA and they find just a
cesspool just just just fucking everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
So Greasy's like, look, I got this baby's drool on me.
I gotta know the sisters babies.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Drool on it.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Sex worker, sex worker, sex worker, tomorrow, weird stripper.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Do they count as sex workers?

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Yes, they started as strippers. They added to sex workers.
I don't know what the what we call that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
And also this kid and so they they test the
kid's DNA and they're looking. They also get they also
have the dad's DNA for he.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Was in the r O t C or something like that,
and like, also we got him. I'm like, yeah, Audio,
if you're in the r O t C, that you
give up your DNA for like it's the r O
t C.

Speaker 3 (01:22:29):
It's I suppose if the if you're in the military,
they take your they have all your your ship, right,
But she.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Didn't say the army or whatever. She just said the
r O t C.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Yeah, Razzi, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Right, Like that doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
So they are they're like, Okay, if this kid is
Frank's son, will have the.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
Dad DNA be the b Frank.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
But if it's the mother's father, if he's like got
grandparental DNA, and we know that it's Summer's kid, and
of course it's grand parental DNA, but it's neither.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
It's not it's not uh.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
Paternal grandparent DNA, So it can't be Graham that did
the raping.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Right, And we find out that it's none of the
bake the male baker deeple DNA.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
So at Frank didn't rape anybody, and which is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Convenient because it's like, Okay, if it's not Graham, then
immediately my mind's like, well that it's got to be
the dad. Let's just eliminate that option right now. We've
got a script to get through, so we're gonna say
it's none of them, so we eliminate the whole investigate
the dad because my mind immediately is like, if it's
not the kid, the dad is obviously your next best
bet because did you see the wedding ceremony.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
We married his daughter. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
But also like they keep sort of bending over backwards
to be like this is a New York case because
the rapes are all happening in New York. Somehow we know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
When they were on a mission trip three.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
Months summer summer gave birth nine months after she also
went on a mission trip to New York, and like,
here's a mission. Here's a picture of the mission trip.
But it's like her making Google eyes at the pastor.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Yeah, so it's they're like, all right, they they never
actually proved that, by the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Way, that that it was happened in New York, right, They.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
They never are never bothered to actually provide evidence of that.
They just ask a lot of questions. And the fact
that these people aren't like we're just gonna leave, like
go go away.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
Because the pastor has an office in New York. I'm like,
whatever probably happened to New York. Whatever, Well, I.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
No, I get that, and as it turns out, because
I know the show that we're watching here, but like,
but like should have to do something about that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
The the other thing is we are running a little short.
We're running a little we need to fill some time.
So Rollins just has like a labor orgasm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
Which is really funny because she and Caresey show up
to the Emmy's office to get some sort of information,
and the scene starts with because I don't think we've
seen this Emmy person before, because.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Well she's Rudnick's replacement.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
And she just says like, oh, hello, Detective Rolins, Congratulations,
like obligatory, like you need a chair right, office's chair
is like, oh, well, the fact that she calls attention
to the fact that Rollins is pregnant means she's something's
gonna happen. She's either going in labor or she's fallen
over like she did last week and deny.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
It turns out falling over two weeks in a row.

Speaker 3 (01:25:37):
So she goes to the er and and because of
the sloppy writing Caresey has to lampshade and say, this
is your second visit to the er two weeks bought
a bing right, And.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
She's like, what are you still doing here? And he
says something like, oh, I get you know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
You think I'm gonna leave your side right?

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
But then she says, like, oh uh, you know the
doctor said it's all going to be fine and stuff.
It's like if he was in the room the whole time,
is what it's making it sound like. He's like, she says,
why are you still here? I know that, yeah, it
shouldn't it be that he already has this information.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
But she's like, I told Olivia that I was that
nothing was gonna change, and now how am I going
to do this all by myself? I'm like, you're you
gonna get a super late term abortion, and instead, Cursey's like, listen,
the lieutenant knows you gotta change.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Bought a bing and I and.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Of course you can do it. I've known you for
I don't know, coming up on a year, I think,
and uh, there's nothing you can't handle.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Bought a big yeah, and I'm writing, I'm in the
middle of writing my note. Oh man, who gives a shit?
And uh, and then Cursey like drops, I know you're
gonna be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
You know how.

Speaker 3 (01:26:48):
I know my mother's in church lighting a candle for
you right now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Bought a bing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
So like we're that's a good fucking line we are doing.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
We're we're kind of we're having some fun with it,
but like it is actually a very touching scene between
but it's very well.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Acted on that moment. Everything else, everything up until that,
I'm like, who could care? And then he's like I do.
I really don't care.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
But I thought Kelly Ginnish is before again, we have
so little in this episode, so it's like, I gotta
you gotta hang on to what.

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
It's okay, but but it's not like I don't think
it's very special until he like turns on a little
bit of that charm and I like ice ice wound.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
I mean, I thought it was sweet that he was
still there that you know.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, I like, I like a
good It's like it's like a romance novel trope of
like I didn't leave your side all night?

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Oh I know. And again this is where we're really
trying to push the drama, as it were, for like
the personal connections with these people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
So like, you know, it's you know, she's not gonna die.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Oh, I mean, like no, it's I was like they
got to find a way to write her out of
the fucking show here pretty quick. As they say they
want me on bed rest and grease, He's like, great,
go fucking be on bed rest.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Home the baby, Like I don't understand why baby. Isn't
it good enough for reason to get you off the show?

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
Yeah? If she doesn't show up to work the next day,
you just have the one line of dialogue like oh
my god, she had the baby is fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
We'll see you next see you next season.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Right, Because they're not gonna have it, I mean, I mean,
or is it? They they'll feel compelled at this point,
since we saw like we we rid of the whole
Noah saga that we're gonna want to see actually pregnant
Kelly Ginnish with a baby, like unpregnant, like have has
given birth to the baby, so we can get the
shot of the gang all with her and a baby,

(01:28:41):
I hope. But then they got to actually wait for
her to have the baby, so they can't like you know,
they got to keep just giving these mcguffins because like
next week, because if she goes into labor after they
raf right, if if she goes into labor after they
wrapped this episode, like and let's she had a date
that she's like, no, I'm gonna but she seems so

(01:29:01):
I mean, she seems so pregnant, Like she looks like
she's about ready to give birth at eddy moment.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
I feel like they have like something in the hopper
of like that that will go in any episode.

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
It needs to have like oh my god, Amna Robins
in the hospital. We gotta go. But something else is happening.

Speaker 1 (01:29:19):
Right, Like I wonder if this is her last episode
of the season. I wonder because we already have Dodds,
We've already had an episode you know, we've had a
bit of a transition period here, so I would guess.

Speaker 2 (01:29:33):
So she is not in the next episode.

Speaker 3 (01:29:35):
She's credit only in Melancholy Pursuit, and she is in
episode nine Depravity Standard, And then.

Speaker 1 (01:29:45):
She was a production code.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
In season ten sorry episode ten Catfishing Teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Oh boy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
And then she's not in eleven, and she's in twelve.
Holy shit, Holy shit, she's clinging on for dear life.
She's in thirteen, She's in fourteen, dude, she's in fifteen.

Speaker 1 (01:30:12):
Are you sure it's just credit fourteen?

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
It usually says credit only, but I feel oh yeah,
Rollins takes matters sixteen, Rollins takes matters into her own hands.
And Barber's for us to drop rape charges against a
popular actor. She's in dies she give birth seventeen?

Speaker 2 (01:30:27):
Does she give birth and then come back like she must?
This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
They take like a mid season break. I feel like
in twenty nineteen, what twenty fifteen we're in right now?

Speaker 2 (01:30:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
So so I'm IMDb has like a photo for episode
nineteen and she's no longer pregnant, so it seems like
she only misses like two episodes to birth.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
This wait just in reality.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Like, that's fucked man. I'm sure, I wonder.

Speaker 3 (01:30:56):
I'm sure that they took some kind of hiatus as
opposed to I would hope making her go work for
the FBI like they did with Murshca Hargate.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
That's fucked up, man, that's crazy right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Oh the way, apparently Kelly Giddish is coming back to
the new season, So wow, how the fuck are they
gonna get around that? Because she's like, they want me
on bed rest and there where she's gonna be?

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
Is it gonna be every birth next week and then
she's back the week after.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Is she just gonna keep passing out every fucking episode?

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
God?

Speaker 3 (01:31:27):
I hope so ring the bell and so okay, So
they're like, Wow, two separate predators in a Christian circle?
Who who would have guessed? We got the pastor and
the brother. You also have the child porn guy who
was filming you. So that's three separate predators in a Christian circle.
Also that number is low.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
Also, you are aware of the phrase the predators moves
in flocks, right, like this whole photo neighborhood watch.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
You know this is the whole predator Ponzi scheme At
this point.

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Well, if you find three predators, if they find three predators.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
Yeah, yeah, and then you sell your tupperware. So they
go to confront the pastor and he's like, I know
why you're here. Our values scare you. You live in Gomora.
And every time I leave New York City, I say,
don't look back. But I have to look back because

(01:32:24):
I've got more work to do. Motherfucker. In the story
of Sodom and Gomora, if you turned the salt, you
turn to a pillar of so who knows what spics.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Yeah, I think it's not that look back. I think
he says don't go back, because like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
There's definitely says look back, because I was like, what
the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Yeah, it's uh, if you could believe it, he he
might be a bit of a charlatan Aviv.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
I know it's fucking shocking. Also, I again, as Aviv
said earlier, uh no one cares about your believes it's
whatever you start forcing your beliefs onto me, is what I.

Speaker 3 (01:33:03):
Care, you know, Because and these people can't stop telling
on themselves. So like you know how they say, like
I don't hate gay people, I hate when they shove
their gayness down our throats by existing like that's what
you're actually doing?

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Bye, Like by like what waiving your stupid book in
our faces.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Yeah, it's like great, you believe that I don't so
funk off? Like what what?

Speaker 2 (01:33:26):
What is?

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
What don't you understand about this? In the same way
that you were telling us the fuck off, we're telling
you to fuck off for the same exact fuck reason.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Just leave.

Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
You just don't like you. You just want everyone to
think like you, and the fact that we don't is
an issue for you because you have control.

Speaker 3 (01:33:44):
Issues, because you have no control in the face of
your God. And so they go they take his DNA.
They have a warrant. He's like, don't you need a
warrant for this? And fits like asking he shall receive motherfucker,
and uh so they get his DNA.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
I just have heard her said at this point where
it's like, you don't what you did, so why you're
not immediately like.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Like to complete, immediately throw yourself on the mercy. But
they they go back like obviously he's the dad. They
go back to his office and his assistant answers the door.
He's like, oh, it's so weird. Pastor Eldon went to Ecuador.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Yeah, I also found it hilarious whenever they are getting
the DNA tested and they're like come.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
On, come on, and they're like blow on it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
I mean it's literally like it's a computer program. I
can't make it go any faster.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
And then they just get closer to the screen. I
was like, photons will I just it's.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
It was very stupid and funny to be where they're
just like come on, like rapper, shake it like works
like that's not good.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
That's their strategy, right, is like when they don't get
the answer that they want, they just like shake someone.
So Pastor Elden did not go to Ecuador. He went
up to Allenville to get married. So they bud to
who to this thirteen year old girl? Oh no, uh,
I'm sorry, Matt, she's fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:35:05):
Now, Lord woman, I should say.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Woman, Happy birthday.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Lane and the parents are standing right fucking there.

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
So it's relatively clear, but they say it out out
loud in a second that these parents don't know that
Pastor Elden raped Lane, and they think that Pastor Elden
is marrying Lane to keep her from being like a
ruined woman.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Because at this point they still think their son raped.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Yes, they do, because Elden sent Graham to Ecuador keep
him from telling the truth that he didn't rape his sisters.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
Right, oh right, Because they then say later that Graham
they never they never actually heard Graham confess about this
to them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
Graham confessed to Pastor Eldon.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's not weird at all that
it's like this weird judge and this weird pastor lawyer dude.

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
And and and a child and a literalis.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Everyone is just cool with this?

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
Yeah? Yeah? Why not?

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Also, I think like someone in the art department is
definitely on our side because they bust into this church.
It looks like a VFW hall or something. And in
the reverse shot, so like shot one, we have the
Eldon marrying this child and the reverse shot of the
cops behind them, it just says, bless our troops, Like hell.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Yeah, oh my god. So just thinking this through in
the world of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
What's wrong?

Speaker 1 (01:36:36):
So you're you're Pastor Eldon Esquire.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Pastor Eldon Esquire LLC. So yes, I also removed you.
We've Oh great, guess what my favorite time is to thirty?
That's correct?

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
Great?

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
I was like would be all one, but that wouldn't Yeah,
that wouldn't work, so I I And he's a lawyer,
so he should probably understand this well.

Speaker 3 (01:37:02):
And actually my favorite time is actually two thirteen because
my wife is thirteen ouch, and I'm getting arrested because
she's too thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
You get it, Yeah, to thirteen too furious.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
So so many fucking levels. So is there thirteen? Let's
say two, but you know, yeah, well, same teamwork.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Uh So this this guy, he's thinking, oh, no, I've
clearly been caught with the I had sex with an
underage girl.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Hurry up with the wedding, and.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
So by becoming married, that means whatever I did prior
to marrying her, does it fucking matter because she's now
by property?

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Well, I say it does it?

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
I'm actually I think you're probably right. But also it
means that she cannot testify against him.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
That's fine. The DNA will do all the talking. They
already like, what are you talking about? You're they already
have your DNA.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
They just like, hurry up with the wedding, let's get
this fucking over with. And Olivia's like, wait the wait
a fucking minute, you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
If he was like, shut, come out, Jodge, finish the
fucking ceremony.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
And so, uh they're like, you know, Elden raped Lane,
but she also he also raped Summer and he's the
father of Summer's baby, and Pam's like, Summer never had
a baby, and Olivia's like, we're past that, you sweet idiot,
you fucking sweet rube.

Speaker 2 (01:38:32):
I can I.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
I mean, this is maybe very mean, but it's coming
from a righteous place where I'm just like, there is
something about watching these idiots see their entire lives crumble
around them from their own idiocy where I'm like, yeah,
you fucking idiot.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Like, but Pam is also a victim, right because it
stands to reason that she's like brought up in that
and she clearly doesn't have no high school.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
Again, I do, I do understand it's a very complicated thing,
but totally but watching the disillusionment happened with the people
that are yeah, yeah, doing fucking things at the moment, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:39:09):
Just totally oddly shoden Freud.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
Yeah. So so meanwhile, uh, Elden is like post hawk
Ergo propter hawk semper ubi sub ubi. Uh legally she's
uh my property and and Grazy's like, man, shut the
fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:39:27):
Yeah, there's a line where he's like the fact that
you're making a legal argument right now is not looking great.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
For you, right And and even Lane is like, he
loves me, He's got a plan for us.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
It's a godly marriage.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
And and fucking Pam loses it and she's like, you
rape my kids. You fucking you lied to me, told
me my son is a rapist. And everyone's like, your
son might actually be a rapist.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Well, two things to be true.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
At the same time, she's on a roll though, she's like,
you impregnated two of my daughters and let me think
that my son did it. And this is where my
poll quote came from. Pastor Alben's like, Frank, get hold
of your wife here.

Speaker 1 (01:40:07):
And she's like, I'm not gonna do that. He's like, yes,
you will, because he is your husband. You will defer you.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
You are his property.

Speaker 1 (01:40:14):
At this point, I'm like, dude, read the room. If
you think that argument's gonna fucking fly right now, you
are pretty fucking stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
This is a classic like Mr a red pill, dude,
things like you're not I'm not triggered, You're triggered. I'm
actually laughing right now. This is like all part of
my plan. As he's like, sinking into quicksands.

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
You're you're stupid.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
Yeah, and so Lane says, he told me that that's
what people in love do. And I'm like, it's okay, Frank,
go hit him, Go fuck it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
No one, no one's gonna stop you at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
And as the so Frank doesn't hit him, which is like,
I mean, and they have.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
The fucking local smokey fucking arrest.

Speaker 3 (01:40:57):
Who's the one that who's the one that gave him
the gave them the juvenile detention?

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Well, which is I don't know why. He's like, I
don't know what do I do.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
It's like you have an arrest warrant, arresting.

Speaker 3 (01:41:08):
Arrest them, and they they're carting Pastor Eldon off. He's like,
none of this will hold up in court. I love
Eu Laye not not great.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Smash cut to back in the squad, who was like, wow,
he took a plea almost immediately, he's gonna do some
serious time.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
The dogs found him immediately, and so Caresee's like, you know,
the priests when I was growing up saved my life,
but you only hear about priests raping children. I'm like,
how does how is that relevant currently? Like, explain to
me why you're saying that right now, careesy.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
Yeah, because they're watching the press conference at this point.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
Oh right, all right, Frank and Pam are doing a
press conference where they're like, we were misled by our
pastor and he abused our children and we're never gonna
let that happen again.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Yeah, you know that whole thing and that. Yeah. Then
Chris says that you only hear about the bad ones,
and it's like, again.

Speaker 3 (01:42:06):
You absolutely do not only hear about the bad ones.
In fact, there's like a whole thing about the bad
ones that they were covering it up so you didn't
hear about them.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
Right, And then it was kind of what's the what's
the damn broke? And I understand what you're saying, Cresey
is that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:21):
They're not keep finding the bodies.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
They're not all bad. I understand what you're saying, and
in the way that you know, I understand, but you're not.
You're missing the overall point here, my guy.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
But someone who could miss the point even harder has
entered the chat, and uh, and Dodd Mike Dodds is like,
you know, I think I think I'll stay at SVU
for a little while. And Olivey's like, uh, you, you're
getting used to it here. And he's like, you know,
I always thought we'd be taking rapists off the streets
and not out of the churches.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Dude, where the fuck have you been? What?

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
What did you think you were going to be doing
it this?

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
I'm just curious, like what that's That's where the rapists
hang out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
It's their little clubhouse.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
They don't often just commit rapes on this you it's
important to me. You understand that it's not just where
we cruise around. And then we just looked up rap
rape happening right there on the street.

Speaker 2 (01:43:19):
It's like the supermarket but for rapists.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Yeah, we got a rape happening on a fifty six
and Lexury Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
The priest walks down the aisle and is like, I'm
gonna rape that one. But also also he is the
one that's talking about the rabbi doing the rape earlier
in the episode, so like none of this makes sense.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
He's like, oh, but oh, oh, temples, synagogue.

Speaker 2 (01:43:45):
Synagogues, I knew, Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
I was like, Jesus Christ, we're gonna fucking It's like
a deadly deadliest catch with that pot full of fucking cramps.
Just all the rabbis fall out.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
By the way, the ratio of clergy members who are
rapists to trans people who are rapists is infinity to one.

Speaker 1 (01:44:10):
It's just it's like, also.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
I would I would hand my child to a drag
queen on Hollywood Boulevard before I would hand a child
to an evangelical pastor.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
Damn.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
And that's saying something.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
I truly mean this. I don't have a kid, but well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
You know, so neither of us have any actual skin
of the game.

Speaker 2 (01:44:36):
No, I got some for skin in the game.

Speaker 3 (01:44:39):
That's our dick Wolf Law and Order SVU Season seventeen,
episode seven, Patrimonial Burden.

Speaker 2 (01:44:46):
Holy shit, that title.

Speaker 1 (01:44:49):
To man, that's so bad. That's so fucking bad.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
From Trivia Corner, Kreese states that he has a new
niece who drolled on his jacket, meaning his sister Bella
has given birth after she was shown to be pregnant
in the episode Parole Violations, which is from the end
of last season season sixteen, episode seventeen, with.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
What's Yeahrick Yes from Severns. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
Dodds says that the youngest kid could be Irish twins.
The term Irish twins refers to one mother having two
children that are born twelve months or less apart. It
originated in the eighteen hundreds as a way to poke
fun at Irish Catholic immigrant families who did not have
access to birth control. Irish Catholic immigrant communities would often

(01:45:39):
have many siblings who were very close in age. Since
they were relatively new to the United States and lived
in cramped conditions with little resources, other people would speak
poorly of them. They also had to have a lot
of kids because a lot of kids died during the
famine that was orchestrated by the English.

Speaker 1 (01:45:56):
Amongst other things.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
Yeah. This episode was filmed and aired in twenty fifteen,
and at this time, miners as young as fourteen were
allowed to marry under New York state law, providing they
obtained parental and court permission. So that's why the judge
and the Paris.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
Oh god, that's so much more sinister.

Speaker 2 (01:46:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:16):
And in twenty seventeen, New York passed a child marriage law,
which banned marriage completely for under seventeen year olds and
children age seventeen to eighteen need parental in court approval,
and in twenty twenty one, New York became the sixth
state to end all marriage before the age of eighteen
with no exceptions.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
Is it amazing where it's like, oh, look at that
apron mental progress to seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
Ah, we should have just just like fucking normal.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
Chris Elliot should know better because he also played a
cameraman in Groundhog Day, though he did not have an
easy rig and he also was in season ten episode
for Lunacy, which is about Stabler and the ass Strunat.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
Oh James Brolin.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
Yes, no, take the moon from me? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. The James Brolin was there.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
It was gonna be James Brolin and Stabler.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
We're gon we're both going for live correct.

Speaker 1 (01:47:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
And Dane dehan is Is I like him?

Speaker 3 (01:47:19):
Pastor Gregory Eldon says you live in Gomorra to Hobbes
and Finn I sent Karesian Fen.

Speaker 2 (01:47:26):
Sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26):
This appears in the Old Testament Jennison's nineteen twenty four
Gomora was one of two ancient cities near the Dead Sea,
the other being Sodom, named after sodomy and Gomorrah, named
after an even weirder move that were destroyed by God
as a punishment for the wickedness of their inhabitants. It
can also refer to any place notorious for vice into

(01:47:47):
pravity and yep, there's like a couple other Bible references
and Josh Dugar. This episode references Josh Dugger, who admitted
to sexually abusing his sister.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Is because he's a piece of shit and some references.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
It references an American tale because they say somewhere out
somewhere out there, fucking kill me. Oh nineteen kids in counting.
The Dugger Show aired until twenty fifteen. It went off
the air right like as they were starting to write
season whatever season we're in seventeen of svo Oh boy.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Wow, that show went on for that fucking.

Speaker 3 (01:48:29):
Long seven years. Yeah, Jesus Christ, I have never met
a man, woman, or child you watched that show. And
from user review Corner from Claire A. Schaeffer from September fourteenth,
twenty twenty one, Hmmm, six out of ten stars. Pretty interesting,

(01:48:51):
but A Benson is so pushy that it's sameful to watch.
B way to poke fun at people who are religious
and see team pregnancy isn't necessarily a crime. In this case,
it was, but when a teenage, when a teenage is pregnant,
the police can't just insert themselves into the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:49:11):
Jesus Christ on a fucking crutch? Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (01:49:14):
This is so That's why I went hmm a bunch.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
I thought that was the title of the fun.

Speaker 3 (01:49:20):
It also was a title We're gonna read two more.
This is from vantam and two from June twelfth, twenty
twenty one. Andy eight out of ten stars. Andy Carl
is the title of this which is is he's the
guy that plays dods? Okay, the review rights what does

(01:49:40):
he do to his face? Botox does not seem normal?
Glad to point out families like the Duggers have definite problems.

Speaker 2 (01:49:50):
Eight.

Speaker 1 (01:49:50):
Oh my god, that's the best review you've done on
this show.

Speaker 2 (01:49:53):
So good right and uh.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
Face anyway, Fuck the Douggers eight out of.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
Ten And from Mary Newcombe twenty thirteen from January twelfth,
twenty nineteen. Ten out of ten star is excellent with
two exclamation points. This excellent episode is not just about
a holier than thou family going to agree for their
pregnant thirteen to marry a reverend because he got her

(01:50:20):
that way. It is also about how religion can be
really wrong just because they are a part of this
religion slash occult does not mean you look the other
way when wrong doings are happening. Double exclamation point. The
religion can be really wrong. Also as a double exclamation point.
The whole town was involved in this so much that

(01:50:41):
they do everything to cover up truths to protect their
religion and followers. Double exclamation point. This was another episode
that showed the country how wrong religion can be and
is if people will just come forward double exclamation point.
To live for the father and son does not mean
you have to be religious or be involved in a church,

(01:51:02):
double exclamation point. You can live for them or on
your own. Double exclamation point. Example, when you pray, you
pray alone.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
Double exclamation point.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
When you ask for forgiveness, you do that alone.

Speaker 1 (01:51:16):

Speaker 3 (01:51:17):
I'm sorry, Matt incorrect. That is a triple exclamation point.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
Oh shit, God.

Speaker 3 (01:51:22):
Wants us to come to him as individuals, not as
a group.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
Exclamation point.

Speaker 3 (01:51:26):
Double exclamation point. That's what the town in this episode forgot.

Speaker 1 (01:51:32):

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
In the Bible. It talks of the sins of the
flesh and sins of man.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):

Speaker 3 (01:51:39):
This episode shows those go deeper than what Christians want
you to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
Triple exclamation point.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
Very well done, tmsview.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):

Speaker 2 (01:51:49):
There you fucking go, And that's our episode for this week.
Claud Order.

Speaker 3 (01:51:56):
Season seventeen, episode seven, entitled Patrimonial Bird. If you agree
or disagree with us, if you know how many exclamation
points we use in an episode, let us know. We're
an sv where Strudel SVU podcast on Blue Sky, which
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Speaker 3 (01:52:23):
Fuck yeah, and tune in next week when we view
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SVU season seventeen, episode eight entitled Melancholy Pursuit.

Speaker 2 (01:52:37):
Oh boy, Oh, I.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Don't like this, so I don't. I don't like this
at all. I don't get a good feeling from hearing
this title.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
You should no boy, Noah gives Olivia a scan, So,
for Fox's sake, do you just die?

Speaker 3 (01:52:48):
Just die?

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
That's stree goo bye nope, bye Noah, that's great.

Speaker 3 (01:52:53):
The team catches a tough case and has to backtrack
DNA from a prolific philanderer. Dodds is having difficulty with
the job.

Speaker 1 (01:53:02):
Oh boy, can't wait?

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
Joining us next week is fucking know what? Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
Lorenzo Pisoni, who might be related to Josh Piss, plays
Brendan Cahill. Sure, yeah, no one, no one cool? So
until then? Oh, I guess it's based on true story too.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Uh, I think they all are from here out?

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Oh and next week is the last episode in which
the original Noah Bradley Dubao plays Noah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
Oh, so I.

Speaker 3 (01:53:37):
Think this is I think we're doing a swap where
we're gonna age him up next season or something. He's
the new sergeant Dodds's son, my son who cares. And
until then four Law and Order Special Viewing Union.

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