Episode 374 - S17E8 - Melancholy Pursuit - Law and Order: Special Viewing Unit

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Beginning, so you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I am your host, Matt Reuter, joining me as always,
the the Cocksman of New York City, Island or whatever.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Ray Dunstan just Ray Marino fucks just.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
The most virile man on the planet. Apparently that's a
fever inside over there. How are you doing tonight? And
if I can see it with the shirt you're wearing
now that that actually it works for that that distinction.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I want to go from pool girl to cool girl.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I mean with phrases like that, girl, you're not you're
You're staying pool girl, Molly you girl, Yeah, you are
remaining pool girl. If that is, if if you were
coming up with catchphrases like about you're going to reinvent yourself,
it's not gonna go well, and it turns out it
doesn't because she's good for you.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
How are you doing this week?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Man? She went from from pool girl to dead girl,
dead girl. She skipped a cool girl might have been
in there for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Dead Pool girl.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
No fuck that, no fuck that noise. I am doing
good of Eve. So peak behind the Curtain. We recorded
a couple of days ago, so not a whole lot
has happened in between. So found out in interesting and
not great piece of information about the state of the

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world and society.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I think I texted already if you did well.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I so I discover whatever not done a great job
of sticking to my like staying off the news and such, and.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Today you're back on the news sort of.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
And I I discovered apparently whatever this uh the spending
bill that made it through the House and is going
to the Senate, which is like the spending bill, it
also guts the judiciary of like all power. Yep, fascism, Yeah,
the rise of fascism here. I I was like, okay, well, great,
it's going to the Senate. They're not there. They don't

(02:13):
have sixty votes, so this is a very stupid exercise.
I learned. Apparently they are learned. Apparently they are passing
this bill via the reconciliation process, which does not require
which is filibuster proof.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
So but Matt, if the Democrats nuke the filibuster. Won't
Republicans just do this anyway? Why why should we have
nuke the filibuster under Biden to make some actual changes?
If the Republicans were just gonna do this the whole time.
I fucking hate it here, yep, I hate it so

(02:46):
much so I Uh, once I learned that, I was like, oh,
so that'll pass.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Then, Oh, oh no, we are We're really fucked now,
Holy shit, are we fucking right now?

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Just sup?

Speaker 1 (02:57):
So I found my way over to the uh alcohol,
well that sure, that's you can hold that constant. I
found my way over to the Canadian immigration website to
find out what exactly I would have to do Cassie
and I would have to do to become concert no no,

(03:18):
to become a lawful permanent residence as opposed to citizens
or anything like that, and uh, looking out the process,
I was like, actually, that that seems sort of feasible. Plus,
I figure, since I'm close enough to the border, if
I just make a break for it and just go
over on like just like I'm visiting.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Shoot you on the way out right, the American government
will shoot you for fleeing.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Yeah exactly, And then fill out the paperwork while up
there and uh and just see how that goes. So
that was I I.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
With the literal plot of Handmaids Tale.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yes, I have not kept up with it since season one,
but that I am seems to be behind.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
But yes, that that is, that is what happens.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I don't need to watch Handmaiden's Tale because I'm living
it now.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
I agree. That's kind of why I stopped. I was like, oh,
this is this is not good.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
This is literally just a documentary on the state of America.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
So and also the weirdest part about Handmaid's Tale, which
I noticed as I kind of it, was actually last
week when we were recording, Lyanne was watching the other
room and I peeked my head in after we wrapped,
and all of the like commanders like that the men
in the Gilead drive tesla's.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, of course they do.

Speaker 2 (04:41):
Of course, yeah, of course they do.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Of course they do. And of course Elon's like, yeah,
just let them drive the tesla's. I don't understand irony
at all.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I love these guys.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
They're all cyber trucks all, They're great. I hate that guy.
So I did see a headline where it's like Elon
must approve rating a little near negative one hundred.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Per se, so fucking underwater.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Literally, everyone literally everyone that was asked hate him. Yeah,
I'm I looked up all of my you know, all
of the different points. Apparently have to have a you
have to rate sixty seven points to qualify for the
express entry to become a lawful permanent resident of Canada. Okay, okay,
did some back of the envelope math there, which is

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not difficult because it's only adding up to sixty seven.
And it's like language skills are worth like twenty eight points.
It's like, okay, well, oh so there we go already.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Don't let them know about all of your mispronunciations.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Right well, you know, I'll be sure to shudder this
podcast before I make.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
A break for it. Have you ever said anything bad
about Canada on this show?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
I don't believe. So I was, in fact, I in
fact was raving about Canada due to my recent trip
to can My name.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is Matthew Reuter, and I said fuck Canada, Fuck your
prime minister.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Never I never said that. I'm given b flint No,
So it was like, that's twenty eight points. I was like,
all right, cool, I I got.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
That one in the bag, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah. And then it was like education.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
To find a new job though, well.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I am looking into asking my company if I can
perhaps because like again I'm already remote and I'm just
two hours north.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
But you're not technically a government employee. You're caught your
company sub contracts with the government.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Is that the idea we are our organization exists because
it was created out of a law that we have
to exist to administer the program, So it's not exactly government.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
It also, my just company might not exist anymore, so, right.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, because if that because if the agency that the
federal agency that oversees the program is same.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
With our mutual friend who works for NASA.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yep, right, so if that goes away, then then I'm
in trouble here. But looking at it was like okay, education,
work experience, like should net all of those points, which
is like another twenty five. So I was like, okay,
all right, all right, then you're getting there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
And then it was like three.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Based off of fifty three based off of.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
The are math skills on there? No?

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Thankfully, I sure hope not. Yeah, And then it was
like age and the older you are the number, the
number of points you get goes down. So I'm writing
that meaty part there where I get like nine points
for my age. I was like, don't tell them, no,
I've heavens though they will they will get nothing and
like it. So I was like all right. And then
looking at the rest, I was like, ah, you know,

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I'm only a couple of points away from being qualified here,
so uh. And I think I kind of casually looked
at the other ones, but I was like they were
significantly smaller point values. But I was like, I'm only
I'm only a couple points away.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Clearly I should go for the bag. I think I
should be able to do this.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Uh. And then it was like you have to demonstrate
that you can sustain your yourself. And I was like, okay,
even if I don't have a job. Looking at my
current my current bank account, I'm like, all right, even
if I just lived off of that for a year
until I well, a year, I'm saying worst case scenario,
if you know, if I have about one month, if

(08:12):
the global economy tanks, as it will very soon due
to dear leader, I'm like, okay, even if I'm just
burning through cash and savings, and bhing. I think I
could make that work for a good minute. So I
was like, all right, okay, there you go, this is
this is yeah, you know it's uh and and again,

(08:34):
and it's so close. It's right there. So uh, you know,
I'm fucking terrified because this all seems to have happened
so fast and everyone, as we've said so many times.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Fast but not fast because like obviously we've been we've
seen the handwriting on the wall for a while, and
there were there were like stirm and drag people who
are like, hey, this is happening, and everyone's like, oh,
don't be don't be alarmist, and like I hate being
right about everything. Well I'm right about almost nothing, but

(09:07):
I hate being right about this about.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
This in particular. Yeah, so it's uh so again learning
learning the the method that the spill was going through,
it was like, ah, we're fined. Oh no, we're so
much very not fined. Oh no, oh I gotta get
the fuck out of here. It feels like that moment
was like waking up it two hours late for work
and you're like, oh no, yeah, yeah, I gotta get

(09:30):
the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
I actually think I think about that kind of a
lot because I saw I used to work at the
House of Blues in Boston, and I've never been like
crazy late for work, except for one time when I
read the schedule wrong, or the schedule like changed after

(09:51):
I read it, or whatever, and I was scheduled for
like whatever four, but I did I thought I was
scheduled for six, and I just like didn't do anything.
I just sat in a coffee shop waiting for my uh.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
The phone call that you've been fired.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, no, I waiting for my shift to Sorry. I
sat in the coffee shop like like two blocks away.
But the coffee shop did have good cell services in
two thousand and nine. And then I walked into the
House of Blues in my boss, who was like a
friend of mine who hired me. He just goes, hey, man,
I thought we were cool. I was like, what happened?

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It turns out I was two hours late, but I
did not get fired.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
So here's the thing. In that scenario, did you tell
him that you were a mere two blocks away?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yes, I was like, oh no, no no no.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
No no no no no no no. You can't do that.
You can't do that. That makes it worse at least.
So that's how I'm doing eggs Field with existential dread
of Eve. How about you, how are you doing?

Speaker 2 (10:47):
I'm doing Okay. I turns out I'm a little vitamin
D deficient and i'm in fact so in southern California. Yeah,
well you know, I'm behind a computer and uh and
so in fact, i'm in fact so vitamin D deficient
that the doctor I have the like little app or whatever.

(11:08):
So the doctor prescribed me some vitamin D and I
was like, oh, okay, cool, vitamin D. I'll like describe
it next time I'm at the pharmacy.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
And then you realize that's over the guests. You could
just buy that. You don't need a.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Pure not not in the amount that I have to take.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Just get a lot of it and just take more
than is recommended on the bottle.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
And then so right, So, so I am more vitamin
D deficient than over the counter. So so the doctor
prescribed something for me, and I was like, okay, whatever,
everyone's vitamin D deficient. I'm just gonna like go, uh
when next when it's convenient. And a week later, which
is today, someone from the doctor's office called me and

(11:48):
they're like we are calling to let you know that
you are extremely vitamin D deficient and you need to
go pick up this prescription now. My god, and the
doctor wants to test you again in three months because
they're so worried about you. Jesus Christ, I didn't I know,
I don't, I don't know. I don't know what's wrong
with me. But well, you know what's wrong with you,

(12:11):
D deficion.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
You've already solved that portion of the equation.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
So yeah, I uh, I guess I'll go pick up
my vitamin D prescription later today.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
And by vitamin D, you mean it's prescription dick, right.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking about I can't the doctor.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Three Yeah, the doctor's gonna fuck you in three months
just to make sure that it sticks.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
It's so funny because the doctor, when I saw him,
we were having like some conversation about something like I don't.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Know your health perhaps and.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
My health, but like exercise, like exercise, let's say, and
he was like using some metaphor for the like for
the Dodgers. He's like, so you had you know the
Dodgers they have to work. They win the championships, but
they like work real hard.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
And I was like, you you're not wing ship buddy.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Yeah. So basically like he was like talking to me
like I was seven, which is fine, he's a doctor,
he's allowed to do that. But he was like, do
you know what I mean? And I was like, I'm
a Phillies fan.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
And he did not understand that I was joking. And
he's like, you see the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Okay, fine, for this sake, we'll say the Phillies. Okay, fine, they.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Didn't win, you know what, never mind, never mind, just
just die.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I hope you die. It was fun. Actually, I was
on the road the other day and I saw a car,
which was surprising out here.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Uh and it was there no cars in Seattle, Oh.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Nope, Maria one. It's it's what a walkable city it was.
The back of this car was like a super or
something like that was just covered in various Phillies related stickers,
like to the point where it's like, dude, like.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
That's it's a bit aggressive.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's a bit much. And actually it reminded me of
a conversation that Cassie and I had the other day
where it's like, you know that we both fucking hate
this the the baby on board stickers.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
First I was thinking about crashing into you, but now.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Right exactly, I I hate them, and it's like, you're
not special. You have a child, and let me tell you,
because all of them do. It's nothing personal against you,
but your kid probably fucking sucks because they all fucking suck. Sorry,
it's just a fact. I don't make the rules.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
I just play for your kid sucks.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
They all do. It's not just yours, it's all of them.
That's why I said it's nothing personal. It's just if
they're a kid, they suck. It's the nature of kids.
They suck. But then so there's the baby on board stickers.
But the thing that I detest even more is the
people that have like the variants. It's like, oh oh,

(14:54):
like baby Yoda on board baby, Muggle on board baby
I've seen so many of and it's like, so not
only you're like I'm a parent, but I also read
Harry Potter or I'd like Star Wars two. So it's
like stop. So your personality is I watch movies and
fuck and have a child that sucks. It's like stop

(15:14):
it stop it stop what who what are you hoping
to a car? Why what what is the point of this?
It's like, why are you making this all about you?
Is it supposed to be about you? Kid? Who is
supposed to be about you? It's like I'm a cool
mom or dad. It's like, no, fuck off, stop.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
My other car is the Millennium Falcon. You know, it's
like smoke a cigarette.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Fuck right, stew some dow socker right.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Now it's giving pool girl when you want to be
giving cool girl.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
No, here's it. But here's the thing, pool girl. If
it was like my other car is a swimming pool,
it's like, okay, that's It's like, or if you fucking have.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Like your car, that doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
No, it doesn't. But none of these makes sense anyway.
But it's either that or the people that put like
the fucking the twenty six point two or fucking.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
By marathon ors.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, like these these insane people. Why why would you
advertise your insanity? What is what is to gain from that?
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I don't I read this thing recently that the more
not recently, it was actually a long time ago. The
more bumper stickers you have on your car, the worst
of a driver you are, no matter what the bumper
stickers are no politically whatever. It's just like the more
you put on, the more you feel like your car
is an extension of yourself, and so you drive like

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an asshole.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
I mean, I it's just anecdotally would probably agree with that.
It's like, I'm just trying to think and I'm like, well, yeah,
because the guy that the back of the car was
just covered in Philly's stuff and even was like cool
Phillies gear. I was like, that's too much, though, So.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
What do you do in Phillies Philly's sticker office.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Right, or for the Phillies somehow is a scout or
the guy It's like what, It's like, what does this
guy do every season when they don't win? Does he
just sit there with the fucking gun.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
In his mouth? He puts another on every sticker? Is
like another failed season.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's just it's simply it's absolutely terrible. I also was thinking,
if I do really relocate to Canada, either in under
the cover of night or like a more sustain process,
It's like, well, I will be international. Can can I
just stop paying my student loans?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I don't think so. No, Well, what are they gonna do?
They're gonna send the Gestapo after you.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
But I'm in another country. They're not gonna if they Dude,
if they do, if we're invading Canada, we have.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Now it's another country.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
We have bigger fucking problems to deal with. If if that,
if it comes to the point where we are invading Canada,
I'm not paying my fucking student loans. Fuck that. Come
and get me, asshole.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
You like this shot heard around the world. It's just
like you are the reason that we started a war
with Canada.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I literally I said this to my mom the other day.
I was like, I swe the craziest fucking thing about this,
Just everything that's happening right now is like if and win.
I'll just probably say closer to win rather than if
fucking the United States breaks out into all outs like
legitimate civil war, which okay anyway exactly. I was like,

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think about the acididess of this. It could be literally
an entirely divided nation at war with itself and fucking
every month, some assholes gonna come knocking on my mother like,
can you please give me some money for that student loan.
They'd be like, motherfucker. The country is literally divided into half.
There might be a whole new country, and you're still
gonna come to me be like, yeah, I'm just so

(18:50):
fucking always that money.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Though, honestly, like, so okay.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
The banality of evil of that is just absolutely insane.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
The whole West Coast separates. We're in a new country,
right sure, Cala Cala, Washington, new country, and we will.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Still owe money Oregon, by the way.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Yeah, yeah, clearly we will still owe money to the
former United States of America.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Is that not the most insane fucking thing you've ever
heard of your entire life? Because you know it's true.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
You know it's a hundred send you a bill, I know.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
And then it's like, what do you again? But here's like,
if you're in what's.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
The exchange rate from cal from cal Washington bucks.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
To I don't know. Apparently California is the they you
guys love talking about how you're the eighth largest economy
in the fucking world. I think, now, oh my god, so.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I think we just usederve Japan.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I was gonna say, fucking it's gonna you're gonna be like,
the currency of this new country is gonna basically be
like stronger than the British pound. Great heh. Fuck Britain,
We're on the brink of becoming a completely failed state. Still,
someone's going be like, give me the fucking money, give.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Me the fucking Bundy and now mail bag.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yes, so uh, surprisingly we have one piece.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Of mail, one piece of mail from Tasha.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yes, and she writes in an email entitled Whoopy Gee.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Uh hey, guys, you could be bothered to write to
spell a Goldberg.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Nope, Uh that feels antisemitic. Uh hey, guys. So I
couldn't figure out if Whoopy was just a big Law
and Order fan or was bored and wanted something locally
to do. But she also guest starred on an episode
of Law and Order Criminal Intent, Season five, episode twenty
to the Bone. It was an episode with Chris Nth
and Annabelle uh Score as detectives Logan and Beric Sor. Yeah,

(20:49):
I don't know. It was actually a decent episode with
some Whoopy monologues. To boot episode SYNOPSI, Detective Mike Logan,
Chris Noth, and Carolyn Barrick investigate a series of brutal
machete murder damn hell yeah, Jason Vorhis got loose machete
murders targeting affluent art collectors. Yeah, I'm okay with that though.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Their investigation leads them to a group of young suspects,
all former foster children raised by the manipulative Chelsea Watkins
portrayed by Whoopy Goldberg. Watkins influence over her former charge
charges becomes a focal point as the detectives delve deeper
into the case. Basically, she sent them out to kill
and steal and then gave Logan the whole who hurt

(21:35):
You speech when she appeared on SVU, I thought it
was the same character, but alas, no, keep on keeping on.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
Thanks Tasha, so quick quick quiz Matt, Yeah, what is
Whoopy Goldberg's real name?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Couldn't tell you, Not even gonna have any.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Karen Elaine Johnson, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I get way, you change your name. That's a very
very generic sounding name.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
She she changed her name to Whoopee after the Whoopee cushion.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Okay, hey, there you go.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
And she she says that Goldberg is like some part
of her family, that she is like Jewish back in
the day, and uh so she like is She said
that she's Jewish, but like not super practicing. She remembers
the holidays, and she said, quote people would would say,
come on, are you really Jewish? And I would always say,

(22:32):
would you ask me that if I was white? I
bet not?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yep, correct, correct.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
And Henry Lewis Gates had Whoopy Goldberg on the Finding
Your Roots show and discovered that exactly zero percent of
for DNA it's Jewish.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Well how about the well, I mean, yeah that's what
i've your DNA. That doesn't matter, like you can yeah, yeah,
you can be called Jewish in fact.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, she she had claimed that that there was like
whatever she had like jew blood.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
But that sounds anti bad.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Yeah, but there is actually a Jewish law that states
that if someone converts, you are under penalty of like death,
not allowed to treat them any differently than a someone
who's born Jewish.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's like, look, man, if they're joining us, we need
all the people we could get, so stop fucking stop
ragged hole these people. We need them all right.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, our numbers are low, these are rookie numbers. Yeah,
and that's all. The mailbag. The Mailbak has always you
can get at us where it STU podcast on Blue Sky,
which is it's just the official Blue Sky for all
of your Jewish related questions.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Uh. And you can take that to the bank, the
blood bank, Senator, and for longer.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Just the regular bank that the Jews owned.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Right, Yeah, yeah, who should say they can't own multiple
banks of eve.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, diverse, diversified exactly.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
It's it's it's all an investment. Uh longer weird, so
said us an email special viewing unit. What is it
bagel or or wow?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Now that was.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Uhud gmail dot com. Uh. And now that that's out
of the way, onto the main event where we're gonna
be viewing and reviewing season seventeen episode some tape. There
you go go with that. Uh. Season seventeen episode eight
best being titled Melancholic Pursuit. Right after this stupid, I

(24:35):
am so disappointed that you didn't say strudell whatever you
were saying for it, I forgot truly. We literally were like,
we're excited, we have a new we have a new
stupid joke that we're doing. And I know who is
a baked good of some.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Variety bagels are boiled? Fuck, then they're baked.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah, it was like they're baked afterwards though, Yeah, yeah,
there is a baking portion to the bruss.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
They were back said, don't look get like a wet bag.

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah right, it's just like, all right, we'll just leave
it out there to dry. And that's how you I'm trying,
big old Oh. We're back. And as I said before
the break, we're gonna be viewing and reviewing season seventeen,
episode eight and sv you entitled Melancholy Pursuit. Just a
reminder to our listeners, all the availables are all the
episodes are available to watch on Hulu and Peacock, at
least up to this point. I recommend that you watch

(25:20):
the episode before here is breaking this own not a
bad episode. That's just not a good one either.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Necessarily it is. It is a medium episode. It feels
very much like a throwback to season like one.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, I would agree with that kind of body and ship. Yeah,
it's just kind of the shoe leather of.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, yeah, which is okay, Yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Don't mind that. Uh, it'll make more sense if you
watch the episode. But before we get into breaking down
the episode, in the greatest tradition that we have on
this podcast of VIVE, you're gonna hit us with a
ninety second recap of what happened in this week's episode,
So vive, we're gonna put ninety seconds on the clock.
Why don't you tell us what the fuck happened in
this week's episode The best for you? Noah, Noah, oh

(25:58):
there he is Neverbudy, No there found him. That added
no tension whatsoever?

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Okay, you guys. Olivia almost loses Noah at the park
because she just doesn't have peripheral vision. Not a great
thing for a cop not to have. And Carresi and
Finn oh sorry, Caresy and Mike Dodds are investigating a
missing fifteen year old girl who's been missing for exactly
about two hours. But the last time someone saw her

(26:22):
was at six fifteen AM at swim practice, and it's
six or teen. It's around sixteen pm, and she she's
like still missing. They wipe, they like they whatever, drag
her iPad and it seems like she's been sending salacious
pictures of her in a one piece to a dude
named Diego.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Die is it? Diego?

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Is ye? Diego? Diego to a dude named Diego. So
they set up like a frat party sting for Diego.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's not Diego.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Diego's like I stopped texting her when I found out
that she was fifteen fifteen, I'll get you twenty and
they're like, you've chomporn on your is, Like I certainly
do not. And so we can't find her. We don't
know where she is. But uh then we find her
and she's wrapped up in moving blankets. I wrote, I
wrote it like the like in Insomnia, wrapped up and so,

(27:16):
uh so she's dead and it doesn't look like she
was assaulted, but she does have semen on her thigh
and some DNA under her fingernails, and so for the DNA,
they don't have a match, but they do this like, oh,
we have a familial match somewhere else in the system,
and like this isn't admissible in court for some reason.

(27:36):
Uh we figure out why in about five minutes. But
it turns out that the the the match that they
have is for a son of someone named Ray Marino,
and Ray Marino has two sons, George and Robbie Marino.
But it's not either George or Robbie Marino. It's their

(27:58):
half brother. Even though oh they get to they they
squeeze Robbie Marino into like almost confessing and by day
I mean Mike Dodds. He like, like, they are Brendan
dacying this guy, and they're not letting him sleep until
he admits. But it turns out that that Ray Marino

(28:20):
had some extramarital affairs. He has one brother named Brendan Cahill.
He's the one who had the DNA and vikap ricotis
or whatever, and it wasn't him because it's not this
is not it's only like partially fifteen percent of DNA
or whatever. And so it turns out that Ray was
sleeping with a third woman, Brendan, not Brendan Cahill's mom,

(28:41):
and not his wife, missus Marino, but a third woman
named Claire Sella. A third woman named Stella. So they
talked to Stella. Stell's kind of a babe, and Stelle's like, oh, yeah,

(29:01):
I had a son who died in a motorcycle accident
ten years ago, so it definitely wasn't my son. And
at this point I'm thinking, like, are we sure the
doer is male? I guess it is semen. But there's
a fourth woman, a fourth woman that he was sleeping with, Helen,
and Helen was Stella's best friend. And Helen had three
more boys, and so we talked to Helen and Helen's like,

(29:27):
you absolutely cannot, like there's nothing about this that I
am participating in. And so, but we know that the
boys all take Sunday evening to have dinner with Helen,
and so they set up a fake sobriety check. I
guess it's a real sobriety check. But they set up
a sobriety check in front of her house and breathalyze

(29:48):
all of the non Marino boys, non Marina Marino boys,
and they use the breathalyzer DNA. They use the breathalyzer
as DNA, which is pretty ingenious in a very scary
Nazi way. And it turns out that it was one
of them, Gary, and so they talked to Gary. He
runs and they tackle him and they talked to him

(30:09):
and he's like, yeah, I did it. I was really
upset about it, but not upset enough to tell anybody.
And it's the old classic. I invited her into my van,
I gave her ride home. I tried to kiss her.
She didn't want me to kiss her, so she started
yelling at me, and I didn't want her or I
just wanted to shut her up. And uh, and then
then he killed her, wrapped her body up in moving

(30:31):
blankets and dumped her under the b qui or whatever,
and uh, and Mike Dodds is having a real problem
with this, and he's like, Lily's parents will never get
over this. And Finn's like, do you want to go
hang out at the hospital with Rollins And he's like, no,
I just want to be sad. And Cariese's like, I'm
gonna cook us a full meal at the hospital.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Oh, she's on bed rest at home.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Oh, bed rest at home. Yeah, my friend who's pregnant
is on bed rest in the hospital.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
That's how some people do that.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Well, how was I supposed to know?

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Contexclusive Creasey mean like, I'll make us a home cook,
but Caresee is an idiot. Well that's also he's also
just bringing in Sterno.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
That's my thoughts.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
He's got like a camp stove's.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Got the little trays. Yeah, so that's our dick wolf.
Olivia tells. Care tells Mike Dodds, go home, talk to
somebody you love, and don't make this job your whole life. Olivia,
what right?

Speaker 1 (31:24):
It's pretty ritten well, because she says like I'm gonna
tell you what I wish. So what it's old.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
It's like it's too late for me now, sun, but.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
You're self aware enough to note that that's what you
should be doing, Like now you can.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I told my therapist told me this, and then he
tried to fuck me.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
So I don't know. I don't know. It's I don't
know why he still has his license. But here's the
part that I and we'll get to it in the
episode too, but like it's the way that it's described
how it all went down, that this girl was murdered.
Never explains the semen so right, And it never explains

(31:59):
the scratch the DNA under the fingernails necessarily, and.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
She fought back probably even if that happened, if you're
shaking me so much that my head is gonna slam
against the wall of your van, gonna dig my nails
in a little bit.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Right, But then at no point in time, I like, so,
how did the seamen get there? Sir? He just they
never press.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Above that because they know they know that it's like
if the whole point was you jerked off a little
bit after that, right, And he's like, oh, most certainly.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
Well, I don't what is it did he did he
fuck the dead body, but they didn't know.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
I don't think he fucked the dead body. I think
he just jerked off onto the dead body. He's not
an animal.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
But the whole point of that is like they're like,
we don't need to talk to him. We have him
dead to rights, we have everything.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
But what if I go wher?

Speaker 1 (33:00):
They're like, what if? But I A confession can't hurt,
and I want to know why, And they're like.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Like, a confession can hurt. If it's do it the
way you did it to Robbie, it will definitely hurt.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Right, But again, there SVU, they should.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
He's basically not SVU though, well, no, this whole thing
is like a rude wake up call for Dodds.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
It all again. See our episode last week where it's like,
but wait a second, wasn't flawless? Wasn't he did? We
determine that he had to have been like Brooklyn SVU because.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
He definitely dealt with rapists before. We know that, but
su or or well, no, he was anti crime.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
Right, which is police that's just what that means. Well,
it's okay, what they would have you believe is that, yes,
But because we we had a whole conversation by this
last week where it's like and by that I'd be
two days ago.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
It was like, literally, no, we have this, Like the
only reason that either of us can retain what happened
in the episode last week is because we recorded it
two days ago.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, and then there'll be a long gap between the
next episode that we're recording it. We will not remember
anything that we say today. But you know what I'm
saying where it's like, I don't this none, none of
this the the the character actions and feelings and everything
like that. Okay, if it's gonna be oh, Dobbs can't
handle SVU because SBU sucks.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
With kids, it is I have to stress Dodds.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
What am I saying, Dobbs?

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, oh, every now and again you hit us with
a little Dobs.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Okay, Dodds. But again, if it's like, oh, he can't
handle this, then you you can't have him being like,
well I was working what appears to be an SVU
case in rum because then it's like, well he knows
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
That is I'm just gonna imagine that he made that up.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
That's worse then because they was like those Jews, you
know how they close ranks. It's like, wait, so is he.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Just weirdly anti Semitic and making shit up? I So
it's just it's it wouldn't be a first for a cop.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
It's so like, this would be the job of the
show runner to keep track.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Of these yahn. Script supervisor, continuity supervisor. It's tough job.
There's a lot, there's a lot of moving parts.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
But I would imagine that the script supervisor is to
keep and script supervisor and continuity is to keep that
on set each but each episode. So you're just making
sure that stuff is consistent in the episode. So like
if the cup is in the left hand, that the
cup remains in the left hand between takes time things.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
And by the time it makes it to the locked script.
There's someone there's like a writer's room assistant whose job
it is to be like, oh, yeah, three episodes ago,
he said he had a son, and here it says
he has a daughter. How do you want to deal
with that? My friend Tessa used to be that for
a couple of TVs.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Right, So were there just budget cuts?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Like what like what I think? I think everyone's on
fucking cruise control it's season seventeen.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Well, I mean, imagine what it's going to be like
whenever we get deeper into the series.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
What, Oh, Matt, this is our this is our loop clothes.
Oh this is what episode? This is the episode that
came out the week that we dropped our first podcast. Hey, congratulations,
raise the raise the jersey and to the rafter this episode.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Right, like, it's it's a fine enough episode. It's here's

(36:53):
the thing. It could have been worse.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's definitely could be like and and and the thing
that I really liked about the episode is the ultimate
message is like this crime happens for no reason. There's
no big conspiracy. Everything is horrible and we just have
to kind of keep moving on. There's like the banality
of evil. Like the thing that you were saying earlier,
right is.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Maybe the money, motherfucker. It's like, no society has collapsed,
why would they pay you?

Speaker 2 (37:20):
The random senselessness of a crime like this, which is
like I would say, how it happens probably ninety percent
of the time.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, And it does end on the note, not the
final note, but the note that I think Live has
where it's like we caught the guy that's as good
as we could hope for it. Yeah, yeah, right right,
which is also just depressing where it's like, oh good,
we call the closure rate is is like abysmal.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Well, I would say I was gonna say orders of
magnitude higher than the than the real closure rate of
the real police.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Oh yes, that's because it's a television show. But they're
also their murder rate is on par yeah on the
actual police.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yes. So we open on the playground and Olivia's with Noah,
and I'm like, and so much.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
No ass bitch that can't buy her fucking business.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Rosy the nosy neighbor.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
We don't see her fuck around with a kid at all.
I don't know live you're a police detective.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
She says she's gonna steal a baby, Like, did you.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
See her tending to a child?

Speaker 2 (38:24):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:24):
And she seems awful interested in yours.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
She says that she's got a young kid and also
fourteen year old and like having two is worth worse
than having one and teenage boys. The attitude, the hormones,
the smell.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, and it lives like, U huh great, can you
please stop bothering me? I'm spending time with my child.
Who this is the last appearance of this actor, right,
or this is a new baby? New baby?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
This is this is the last appearance of this actor.
It looks like a different It still does look like
a different kid than than last season.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
I don't know what it is. If it was the lightning,
if it was got a haircut or something, loss of weight, something,
I don't know, but I'm like, that looks like a
different kid.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
That babies looking spelled well.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I so again, this lady who is bothering Live does
not appear to be there with a child.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, or if she is, she just does not care
about it.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Right and Live being an SBU detective, is it like, ma'am,
should you be tending to your child right now? Because nope,
you're spending a lot of time talking to me about children.
I don't see you with one. As you can see,
I'm very much playing with my child and watching them.
You are sitting here bothering me. Go bother someone else, perhaps.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
So fun fact, this woman is played by Alexandra Wentworth
and she was a cast member on Living Color.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
On in Living Color, so she was the other token
white person other than Jim Carrey.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yes, and you also I thought that she looked really familiar.
I watched in living color, but I realize now what
I really know her from. She's Jerry's girlfriend in the
Soup Nazi episode of Seinfeld. Oh No Kidding is the
most famous episode of Seinfeld. I would say.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
The contest.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
The contest is also very very classic. Yes, but yes,
she's the girlfriend that Jerry's like, who are you?

Speaker 1 (40:20):
We're never coming back here again?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Come on, Jerry, who is this? And so meanwhile, this
is like sort of parallel action with Careesy and and Dodds,
Mike Dodds, and it's like, yeah, what.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Are we doing here, guys, like again, because here's what
is he?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
The fucking playground at six at night?

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Well, I I want to know legitimately what, Like we know,
there's not gonna be a fucking episode where no one
goes missing or has kidnapped her.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I wish if only like.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Maybe in later scenes, but not this. It's not gonna
be in the same season where she gets custody of
Noah that they're gonna fucking ice this kid. I would
actually applaud this show for doing that, Like.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Havel went through this is to walk him and feed him.
And look what happens and then.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Fucking Noah falls on to the third rail or something
like that, like dies tragically, and then Live is just
shattered for the rest of the season. I would be like, fuck, yeah,
we're doing something on television. Instead it's Noah, where are you? Oh?
There you are.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
So so here's the here's my my reading of this.
And I'm and I'm sure I'm correct, but but I'm
also I know that this is hilariously stupid. It's that
up parents or two parents have lost their child, and
Olivia briefly loses her child, and so now Olivia knows

(41:56):
what they're going to how they feel.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Right except for the fact that we had seventeen previous
seasons of her dealing with parents that have lost.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
Their children, but she didn't know shit until just right today.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
It's so fucking it's so fucking stupid, Like it's it
has almost out and out contempt for the audience.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
If that's like, you know, like, how do how can
we not remember that Olivia can feel empathy for parents
who have lost the child.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Meanwhile, she has not lost her child, so even.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Then it's a hollow empathy misplaced.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Now, if it was like we turns out that the
other lady who was like, oh, Hudson's over there or
some shit like that, I'm like, who is who?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
What?

Speaker 1 (42:43):
I live? You should keep your eye on this lane.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Name your kid Hudson in New York, man, fuck you,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
I mean, I don't know if it was Hudson, but
it was something fucking stupid, like, oh it was Hudson.
Oh it wasn't. I had that right, Okay, Yeah, I
was hoping I was wrong because I was like, it
can't be Hudson kenned yep.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Oh no, named after the university, of course.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Not the river diversity. Uh So yes, we're cutting back
and forth between live and the fucking nosy lady that
won't leave her alone and them Dodds. Dodds family talking
to this family and they're like, she went to swim
practice at seven point thirty, she hasn't been seen since.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Even talked to her little boyfriend Peter, and they're like
boyfriend and she's like, eh, more like Fred.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, And then whenever we meet him, he's like, yeah,
I'm friend Zone Zone. I'm the friend Zone guy, and
I'm just so worried about her. I'm like dude, it's well,
thankfully for you that this crush is coming to a
devastating and abrupt.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Oh no, he's gonna milk that shit. He's gonna be
like I was so in love with her and she died.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Yeah, it's not going to go well for this kid
for the rest of his days in high school. It's
over for him.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, I don't know, Peter, he's going to climb a
clock tower.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Peter. Yeah, it's either going to be that or again, Peter,
you go go smoke a cigarette.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Have a great Peter also needs to become discover.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Some hoot something you gotta You gotta start riding a
motorcycle or join a band.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Oh, that little kid on a motorcycle will be dope, right, like.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
Just totally totally cosplaying as something other than himself to
reinvent himself.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
So they break into this girl's while Olivia is like
looking for Noah, they break into this girl's iPad.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Well, they're like, oh it, she doesn't have a pass
where it greases, Like, yes she does.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
What what would it be.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
That, like you realized that the pass word? I mean,
do you really think that?

Speaker 2 (44:30):
So?

Speaker 1 (44:30):
All right? If you were creating a password or like
a pin number.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I guess rum tum tugger.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
Okay, so you do actually look at the the letters
associated with each number to be like how do I
spell that? So?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
All right? I actually I actually do. For for one thing,
I do spell things out as though.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
It's like movie Folk, is it boobies? It is booby? Yeah?
Zero eight? Right, But like says, so whatever, Creasey's like,
what's the cat's statement. I'm like, what's the difference. That's
not how this works, Careasy. It's a number, not a letter.
You're an idiots. And also it's never discovered. Coresy apparently

(45:13):
cracks it because he rushes in later and is like
a look at these photos.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Yeah, okay, so a couple of things before the photos.
The reason that SVU was called immediately is that Missus whatever.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Has like a brother that works in the DA's office.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Something she works as a clerk in the DA's office,
Missus Evans.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
So again the fucking nepotism and corruption of s how
many times has this been? This has been in the
fucking uh It's been the episode where they shoot the
innocent black kid who was unarmed because it was the
brother of someone that was a fucking cop was attacked.
That isn't even in like New York. Like, it's like, dude,

(45:59):
stop highlighting the corruption and saying that these guys are
are fucking heroes. You know that's not how the system
should fucking work.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
No, the dismantle so uh. Also, Mike Dodds has the
five o'clock shadows because you know that he's tormented because
he's got the five class but he.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
The fucking the case just started, he just got.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
He's still tormented.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
How woul do you know what to be tormented about?

Speaker 2 (46:23):
He's actually the beard comes first, the beard makes pulls
him into the torment. He would have been fine otherwise.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
It's just it's so fucking stupid. So Carisy comes right,
they're asking the parents, and the parents are like, oh,
there's she's an angel, she's never never done anything wrong
wrong in her life and like my dog. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Turns out she's been sending salacious pictures in a one
piece to Diego and they we find Diego and he's
and they're like, oh no, a colored basically.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Yeah, it's like, well, does does she know someone named Diego?
And she's like no. They're like what this guy? This
is what he looks like here's the picture that I
pulled up and hell and the parents say like, that's
not someone she would know, and I was like.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Oh, he's we don't associate with those kinds of people.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
He's a non white. Of course my daughter doesn't know him.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Yeah, yeah, literally asked I also, so this is gonna
sound weird. Oh boy, oh boy, this picture.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Okay, I'm I'm gonna caution you here before you keep going,
think about what you're about to say, because no matter
what it is, it's not gonna sound good.

Speaker 2 (47:27):
It just doesn't make any sense. No, it doesn't as
a picture that you had said to someone. It's like
a side view of her kind of just like bending
over slightly, like not even it's just like like staying
being a little teapot, right, And it's like in a
in a Team USA one piece, and they're like this

(47:50):
is fucking discussed.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Yeah, And then the next it's like there's that picture,
and then it's it's just like another one that looks
like something you would use on picture day where it's
just like her face smiling.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I'm like and like and like yeah, yeah, but it's
but at least.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
It's like she's from an upward angle, from that from.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
That duck face end exactly Like I understand, at least
I understand how you would send that picture to someone
that you were trying to flirt with. But like this
other one just looks like like your camera went off
in your pocket or something.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Right, So here's the thing, and I we have talked
about this probably countless times at this point, and they
they refer to it later as child porn of like
that's a fucking stretch. And again I understand it's networked elevision.
They can't actually show like if the girl.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
As much as Matt wishes, right, can actually show child
pornography on NBC.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
Free the nipple question mark, I don't know no scratch
that scratch that no no, no, NBC stands for that
would nowhere no. But like, but the vision is it
if you're gonna try to do the visual language of
like yeah, like you gotta there's gotta be something better
you could do, or just don't show it at all?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yeah, right, just scroll again and see their faces and
be like right, like that that.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Solves the problem so much easier than like, oh, I.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Was, like what it's a problem we solved in season
one just don't show it. But they they're like, let's
track diego down an assess and ask and ask ask
sick in him.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Right, So Live then goes this is where she has
the fucking the Jeff Bridges crazy heart freak out with
the kid.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, he's yeah, And I'm like, wow.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
He covered a lot of ground in two and a
half seconds. But okay, that's fine. And she comes in
and uh Dodds, there's like you shouldn't be here, Like,
I'm I'm your sergeant.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
That got this ship.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
I'm supposed to make it that you don't have to
come in as much, and she's like, fuck you, you
should have called me sooner.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
It's like yeah, she's like, you have to. You should
have called me if for any case that comes through,
like Olivia, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Remember the advice you give him at the end of
the episode.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
To it seems like physician heal thyself.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Yeah a little bit. She's like have you done this, this, this, this, this, this, this,
this and this, and he's like yes to all of those.
You know, I I am. I know what I'm doing,
do you know what?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. Shooting
people in the middle of sv.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
I understand that I'm now part of SVU, so therefore
my ability to do my job is decreasing rapidly by
the second. But I've still got the residual of their.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Companies gas leak.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
That would explain a lot.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
I feel very just changing personality.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
I feel real bad for Rollins's pending.

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Baby Rod's passing out all the time.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Right, that baby's gonna have six heads.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
So they they say that Diego has a pay as
you go cricket phone, which is, as everyone knows, only
used by child predators.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Take that cricket you never think the company Cricket's like, hey, hey,
funk stop man.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
We know what we're doneevable, I know, right, And they
found cigarette even though the parents think that Lily was
an angel.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
They've had cigarettes and condoms in her house in her room.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
The chick rocks. It's like, wow, a leather jacket and
some sunglasses, right, And then they.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Bring in the fucking friend zone dude to like, and
here's the fucking the nerd kid that we hear the
boyfriend and he's like, okay, so you're lives, Like, so
you're the boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
He's like, well, he literally says, I'm in the friend zone. Fuck, dude,
you tell that to the cops.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
That's a bit too. I appreciate his candor though, where
he's like, I understand my standing.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
I can't to the police. I'm in the friend zone.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Yeah. And they're like, oh, oh, okay, then why are
we talking to this kid?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Like she offers to siney once but I think it
was in a in a platonic way, and they're like,
uh huh ne touch, got it?

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Got it? So you killed her?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
No what I mean? I honestly thought it may have
been him for a minute. And uh. And they ask
about they asked the parents about her, like you know,
her temperament because the friend who does not even and
deserve a name in this episode, I think his name
is Ron Robbie now Robbie someone else.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
They're they're cutting back and forth between what they're getting
from the parents of like, oh, she's never done this,
and it's like, yeah, she's she's hanging with a new
crew now. She spelled like cigarettes one time, and I'm
worried about her.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
And and so and he's like uh and the parents
are like teens getting moody, but not Lily, and uh,
and the little boyfriend is like, uh, she told me
to goes suck my own ass the other day and.

Speaker 1 (52:32):
She's and again, I can't emphasize this.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
It up.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
She spelled like a cigarette maybe even marijuana. Yeah right,
And it's like, oh my god, I dislike this kid
so much.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
But he's the he's the one that says that this
personality shift was because she wanted to go from pool
girl to cool girl this year and she was crashing
frat parties in Tompkins Square. Oof oof.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yeah. I was like, she's fifty. Like that's the fact
that they set up like diego at this frat parties thing.
It should also be like you're in fighting fifteen year
olds to your fucking frat parties. Yeah you're all going,
you're all coming.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
You're coming with us, Yeah, you're coming with us, Yeah,
you're coming with us.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
I also, you know, listen, I understand like a let's
say a seventeen year old who's visiting college crashing a
frat party.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Right, Like you have a brother that goes here, that
happens or something.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Like that, or you're on a college tour and you
borrow your friend's sweatshirt and you walk off into the
middle of Pittsburgh in the night. Right, you wind up
at a frat party and your friend doesn't know.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Where you are. Right, these things happen hypothetically, hypoth completely hypothetically,
and then you hypothetically end up with someone in the
same dorm. True. That is also true. That is also true.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Friend, your friend's dead, by the way, Oh my god,
really yeah, oh oh god. I found out when I
was still on Facebook. I found out that she died.
Oh Jesus, Yeah, I found I found this out, like
I don't know, ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
But that's a weird thing.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Yeah, so weird, right, wow, huh.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I was ever particularly close, but I was closer with
the other people that she was friends with. But uh,
that's what, no shit, I mean, you made sure of that.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
So she So they go and they like set up
a frat party sting where like one guy calls diego
to the frat party and he's like, where's all the
underage bitches at?

Speaker 1 (54:34):
And then they're like police, Yeah, did they draw down
on him? And like all right, motherfucker, you're cobo with this.
And he's like he really he pulls like a Marrion
Berry's like, bitch, set me up.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Yeah to his frat frat brother, freck guye friend and
they're like, what's with this girl? Like where's Lily? You
were seeing Lily? And he's like, I was not seeing Lily.
I found out that she's fifteen and fifteen will get
you twenty and I was like, well.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
He knows, and then like where we worry this body?
He's like, I've told you thirty times. I was at work,
and then we cut to outs like behind the two
way last yeah, yeah, and Live is like has anyone
checked this alibi? And like he's been saying this all
morning and no one even bothered to check.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Also, fun fact, what his work is is he was
teaching an extreme combat class. So Mike Dodds is lucky
that he didn't get his nose broken.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Yeah, right, price he didn't just fucking pull on the
cops and just.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
A shootout, just take to take his gun john Wick style.
And so they they're trying to railroad him into talking
by saying that his child pornography on his phone because
this because Lily sent the bathing suit picture to him,
and even then he's like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Man, that's such a bit of a stretch. Again, unless
we as the audience are supposed to be like what
we what he actually sent? Yeah, it was said was
child pornography, but again being network show.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
But it just it doesn't, It just doesn't.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
It just doesn't work. They really need to figure this out.
We're seventeen season in, like, you can figure this out.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
And they they're like, Lily wasn't the older girl sextic Diego,
So let let's talk. Let's talk about what we know
about Diego. He says a little bit of weed. He was.
He was flirting with this girl, stopped when he found
out that she was underage. And all the ladies, which
I do because she didn't wind up in his house. Well, yes,

(56:33):
and all the ladies love him. I'm pro on Diego.
I think I think Diego is a good guy.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Yeah, I mean, look whatever, he's like, oh, you got
kid born, I'm like, well, it's not kid born. But
at the same time, it's also not great.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
It's not great.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
It's not great. You probably should have deleted all of
those and although I guess I got the pictures off
of her.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Yeah, yeah, as soon as as soon as you find
out she's under age to fucking burn your phone. Yeah,
get a new cricket phone, dude.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Yeah, take the SIM card out, break it in half,
throw the Hudson. Yeah not in that, little boy, I
throw it at Hudson and run away.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
And Mike dodd says, my dad has a saying they're
trying to they're trying to find Lily, who's fifteen. And
he's like, my dad has a saying, the little kids
you find, the elderly, you find. Teens you solve fucking what?
How is that? A saying?

Speaker 1 (57:25):
It's a pretty bleak one.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
And but but like they're over Sunday, sir, right in
this case, Yeah, but they're they're over Sunday dinner. And
young Mike Dodds is like, Papa, tell me a what
tell me some sage advice about your about your work.
And he's like, let me tell you, well, son, little
kids you find what, the elderly you find? Wait a minute,

(57:47):
Teens you solve what does that mean? Dad? I'll I'm twelve.
And so we also know that she's missing with this
red gym bag and then uh, they find out that
a unhoused person has been using her debit card which
he scooped out of her red gym bag that he

(58:08):
found like in basically in like a squat, right, So
they go to.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Where they found the bag. They determine yes, it's her bag,
and they start questioning the unhoused guy and he.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
That's hers, that's her bag. That's so weird, Like it's
just the red bag guys.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yeah, and the on house guys like, I was looking
for cans and shit and I found this instead and
had to have a card hit it and I use it,
and so that's pretty much it. Guys.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
They tell the parents this, and the parents are like,
but he did it right, so I can like go
in there and fucking kill him. And Olivia's like, no,
he's like a bottles and kid.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
That was Dodds. Dodds is like, he's like a bottles
and cans guy, and they give him this blank look
and then lives like, uh no, that means he's not violent,
he's just unhoused and and struck.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
My always has a saying there's two types of guys.
There's murderers and then there's bottles of cans guys.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Does your dad do a lot of drugs? What are
you talking about.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
The drugs you're find and use and so and so
they find her, they find her body.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Yeah, eventually, like it looks like they have like cadets
working with them. Someone's wearing like a shuty hat. They're
like sweeping this area. They find her body and they
still think that it's the homeless guy. And that's when
dodd says he's a bottles and cans guy. But Belinda
Water does science because she's the only one who has
a brain. And she says that that she died of

(59:41):
blunt force trauma and epidural hematoma. So she got hit
in the head and then had a brain bleed and
then like died. And Dodds absolutely cannot handle this right,
and like he's in the we call it the exam room, don't.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Even yeah, the whatever, the morgue, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
And it's like he doesn't want to look at the kids,
and you know, he just doesn't. He's like, okay, time
of death and she's like, I don't know between four
and eight. He's like, so when we saw her parents
at six, she was still alive. He's like, and she says, like,
do you not understand how range is a time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
Or maybe could be there's a bit basically a fifty
chance of that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Right, So it's clearly Dodds is he's he's taken this
one real hard.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
And it's been a long time since we've had a
character like this struggle with the job.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
He also doesn't really like explain why. It's not like, well,
I have a younger sister. It's just like, oh, he
just like doesn't like it when kids die, which you know, right,
that's that's everyone's got their thing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
I guess that I think is a fairly normal reaction
from most people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
One would think, huh, what's that right?

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Uh huh? So so and again, so she says like, oh,
we found skin under her fingernails and there was semen
on her leg breath, what, no, on her on her leg?
I believe is on her thigh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
And when we are back in the squad room, water
comes screaming in and she's like, ah, we don't normally
do this in New York.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Oh wait, before that, before that, the unhoused guy has
an alibi. Do you remember what his alibi was?

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Diabetes that was acting up?

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
And what's his alibi? Man?

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
His alibi was that his diabetes was acting up and
he was at like, was it like Saint Luke's or
some shit like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah, yeah, some he was like getting some food. So,
you know, don't you know when you're in the middle
of committing a murder and your diabetes starts acting, your diabetal, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Stealed a debit card, trying to use it, you're unhoused.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
You just have a sugar drop.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
You're like, oh no, my sugar's my diabetes is acting up.
Gotta go to the hospital. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
So yeah, So so Warner comes screeching and she's like, well,
we don't normally do this because it doesn't ever work however,
but it might work.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Yeah maybe this time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
So right, So, familial DNA, someone in the system has
a fifteen percent overlap with the doer, and fifteen percent
corresponds to like a half brother or half siblings, right, And.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
It's like, in addition to the fifteen percent overlap, there
is also some particular characteristic with some ducation. Yeah like that.
It's like she says, you know, yeah, it's the odds
of like I can't guarantee anything, but if I had
to guess based off.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Of this, yeah, you can make a pretty compelling match
with those two things, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
It's like, if if one of them happened, it's like
and that means nothing, but if both of them happy
or happen, rather, it's the odds of it not being
the same familial DNA or are very very low.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
So and the guy that the guy that they matched with,
this dude, Brandon Cahill.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Right, So they go and find him and he's just
like some guy and some sort of job and then like, yo, Kayhill,
we're fucking the I to talk to me. He's like hi,
and like you're gonna fucking tell us who the fuck
your brothers are or we're gonna fuck your day up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
And he's like, I don't have brothers. I was adopted,
you idiot.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
And he's like, what the fuck you talking about. It's
like this girl's fucking dead. She give us your fucking brother.
It's like, uh yeah, adopted.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
So so you'd know more than me, motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
So a thanks for letting me know that I am
related to a murderer. That's great to know. Rapist murder,
rapist murderer. And he's like, yeah, I think my dad.
I don't know my mom. They gave me uh her
information when I turned eighteen, if I wanted to reach
out and I never did. I never did.

Speaker 2 (01:03:38):
They Also he also is like, oh the reason that
the cops have my DNA? He was like, oh, this
did horrifying He like shoplifted or something.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
No, he turns style jump because his metro card wouldn't stand.
So he was like, I had to catch the train,
so I just jumped it. And then they fucking arrested
me and gave up my and took my DNA.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
At least they didn't shoot him like that other guy
also true.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Uh So Dodds is not happy with that answer. Uh
So they go and find the mom and they go
to talk to her.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
So when they're talking to Brendan, he's like, hey, man,
I feel a little threatened, and Dodds is like, you
feel threatened a little girl was murdered. I'm like, that's
a false equivalence, Like you don't have to threaten.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Right. It's like he also has, as it turns out,
nothing at all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
To do with this. Yeah, and rights if you can
believe it, right, I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
But here's a question, does anyone really have rights? No,
they're not right. They could be taken away.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
Yeah, So they go to they go to the restaurant
where his biological mother works. Did you catch the name
of the restaurant by chance? I did not? Lobster Box.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
That's fantastic, actually, right. Uh And the mom is like,
hey man, look I was I was sixteen and this
guy was married and lives not like, oh, okay, well
that I guess we're past the session of limitation, so
I'm not even gonna touch that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
But uh, that's uh huh okay, we won't tell the wife.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
I guess that's that's highly legal.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
And she's like they do.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yeah, She's like, look, I am on what is this
like City Island?

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
They say, like, what the fuck is City Island? Is
that what city Island? Everybody knows? Everybody, Yeah, it's an
island in the Bronx. It is so we've actually been
to City Island before, but it's extremely small that we
At one point someone was like, on a on a.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Yeah, right, y is.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Actually William Lewis Roosevelt. Isn't that actually the actual Yeah Roosevelt.
I think it used to be called Roosevelt Island or something.
But yeah, City Island is in the Bronx and it
is super tiny. It it's the area is point four
square miles.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Right, So that's why they the people on this island
keep saying like, uh, you're there if you're born on
the island. Yeah, if you're born on the island, you
never leave the island, even though what do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
You mean you could just take the subway?

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
Yeah, you leave the island every day. I'm sure, Like,
isn't fucking guam. Yeah, it's supposed to be. These these
are like townies. I guess, yeah, yeah, essentially what we
we get from this. And she's like, and I guess
this lady works on said island. She's like, look, I
know the guy's wife.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Randall Island is actually a different island that one isn't
in that. No, No, it's in It's in New York,
but it's in Manhattan, and it is bigger than I believe,
bigger than No, no, it's a little bit smaller than
than whatever city island.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I just assume the city island wasn't real.

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
I also, they talk about it like a mythical place.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Right, like you have to go through the shimmer to
get there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Right, what a good poll?

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
Thank you? I like that movie. Yeah, good movie. I'm
one of the three or four now books in the
trilogy or the quad.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Oh really, yeah, yeah, it's good. I haven't read the book.
I should because I heard the book is is better.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
It's very different than the movie. Yeah, so, although it
might be one of those things where they drew from
the books and then put him in.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Alex Garland, who wrote the script, said that he read
the book once and put it away and never looked
at it again and wanted to do it from memory
because the whole thing felt like a half remembered dream
I could see. That's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yeah, he probably should have read it again though, because
there are some significant things that were left out of it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
But it's I agree, like like the title and and
why it is what it is. Agreed, we're talking about
the movie Annihilation, by the way, book the book is
called then Annihilation too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
Yes, it's part of the Southern Reach trilogy again. Now
there's a fourth and I believe they just put out
a fifth book as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Yeah, I want to. I want to check that out
because I like the movie. I like him as the
writer and director, and I heard the book was really.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Great, Yeah, very good. The it's a it's a fairly
quick read to at least the first book is the
other two I have on my shelf. I just haven't
got around to reading yet. Maybe I'll audiobook it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
So uh. The biological mother says that she had a
fan was she's sixteen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
So that's not really that's not having an affair.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Hang on, that is what she says.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Well, she says affair, sure, and the fact that live
is it like, you know, you were a victim of
a crime, right, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Too much, there's too much going on. We gotta keep moving.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
It's it's it's towny justice, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
So she truly does not have a name. Her name
in IMDb is Brendan's birth mother.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Oh that's why, because they're like, right, give us your
mom's name that they cuts with him talking.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Yeah, but her her, her real person name is Carolee Carmelo.
And you might recognize her from Dope Sick. She was
on Dope Sick, which is a show I refuse to watch. Yeah,
the Family, Yes I would. I would do a lot
of murders, I think if I watched that show. And

(01:08:53):
she's on a show called Remember When W E N N?
Which was a sure the Trials and trip Tribulations at
a Pittsburgh radio station back in the late nineteen thirties
when radio was king. Holy shit. It ran for three seasons,
what year, ninety six to ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Sure, hey, good for her, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
And Star is also starring in the in this show
no one You've ever heard of?

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Yeah, you don't fucking say so. She says that she
knew the mom and they the mom had two two
kids or three.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Two two two boys, and and the dad's name. She
gives the dad's name, Ray Marino. But he's been dead
for five years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Yeah, he died in like a car crash or something
like that, or was a stroke one of the correct
and there there was a lot of because someone had
a motorcycle one of like.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
The motorcycle accident. Yeah, he died of a stroke. But
Ray Marino has two sons with his wife, not his
sixteen year old mistress, Robbie and George.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Yeah, he's like the one kid with his sixteen year
old mistress.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Yeah. Right, And she's like, what's my son's life like?
And lives like, I don't know. He's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:15):
It's like she's like, oh, he's successful. He seemed to
have found his way. It's like Yeah, he wasn't born
into your fucking towny nonsense.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Yeah, yeah, he escaped City Island. And so they interview Robbie,
who is a roadie for a band.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
The other one George first, they pick them both up. Yeah,
and George is a look like this is hilarious to
be We find out like we're just in the interrogation
rooms and we've got the lawyer guy who was just
like We find out only halfway through this scene that
he's a lawyer. So that means he has coming to
the police station. They are taking his DNA as we speak,

(01:10:56):
so it's like, do they have a court order? I
would assume if he's a lawyer, he would have they
asked asked for that. But if not, why are you
just giving up your DNA? You're in an interrogation room.
You are the worst lawyer ever because you're the lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
The lawyer.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
What is he's like? What some would tell me what
this is all about?

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Well, maybe he's like a tax attorney. You don't know,
you know what kind of lawyer he is.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
No, because he we find out that he defended his
brother in the rape case that we are about to
find out about. He's a.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Successfully.

Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
Yeah, so, and then we talked to Robbie is the roadie.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Robbie's the Roady and he's basically like a young Anthony
boar Dade.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Yeah, he is. He's seen some things. He's wearing that
leather jacket and he's like, hey, yo, I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Keep trying to check out what bann T shirt he's wearing,
but it's like clearly a made up band. I could
couldn't really make out what the words were.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
I nor could I. But they're asking them both questions
about this about the dead girl, and uh, Robbie is
is like, you think I would have done anything? Like
you think I would know anything about this girl? I after, like,
I just gave you my DNA. Why would I talk
to you about this girl if I did something to her.
It's like, well, if it was a court order, yeah

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you have to because that's how that works. If it
was voluntary, that's a very good question.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Why did you do that? The big smoking gun evidence
for Robbie is that he's a Roady and roadies use
ratchet straps and moving blankets, which is what they found
around Lily when they found her body.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
Right, Like everyone uses those? What the fuck are you
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Yeah, oh the brand of furniture pad, thank you. And
so he also was, as as Matt mentioned, acquitted but
for a sexual assault charge or whatever because he wasn't
even in the state that the woman said he was
in or whatever or something. But they're still treating him
like he was guilty, and they just like he was

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too slippery and got away.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Right because the the other we come to find out
because they're cutting back and forth between the two interrogation rooms,
and the brothers like, yeah, he was acquitted of that,
you know. And they're like, but do you think he
actually did it? And he's like, doesn't fucking matter what
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
Yet he was acquitted. You can't really like tag him
for something that he like legally was found not guilty of.
They're like, oh, yeah, but but uh, Dodds is really
putting the screws to Robbie. Robbie desperately wants to go
to sleep, and DoD's like, just tell me you killed
her and we'll let you go to sleep. So she

(01:13:33):
got into your van, right, and we'll let you go
to sleep. It's gonna be so much easier. He's like, fine,
she got in my van and then and then you
tried to kiss her, but and she teased you. And
I hate it when girls teasy blah blah blah. And
Robbie's like yeah whatever, like please please just stop talking, and.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
He's literally just about to confess, and they get the
knock where it's like get the fuck out of there,
yeah uh and match yeah, and they come in they
leave is the one that pulled them out, and the
haunts is like, literally, he was just about to good
fest and they're like, yeah, no, but he didn't do it.
It's almost like this read method that we use is bad,

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is designed to set up false confessions.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
So incredibly bad. And so, yeah, the DNA is not
a match, but they are at they're the same amount
of match to the doer, which is about fifteen percent.
So there must be another half brother. And they also
say that because oh so, so they have to get
the DNA from the father to be certain, but he's

(01:14:36):
been dead for five years and they're like, oh, maybe
he's a widow kept a hair brush or a toothbrush
or a razor or something, and they're like.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
She has nothing to fucking do with us.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Yeah, let's just exhume the body, which.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
I was like, Wow, we're going to this length, but okay.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
We haven't exhumed a body in a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Been a minute, So we cut to the cemetery where
they are exhuming the body. Finn is taking either video
or pictures on his phone and Caresee's like, what.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Are you doing making a Facebook profile picture?

Speaker 1 (01:15:08):
Yeah? And uh, Finn is like, oh, I'm gonna send
this to Rollins to make her so jealous.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
She's gonna be pissed that she missed this.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Yeah. Caresee' is like, oh, you keep put up with her.
I'm like, Caresy, you were the one at her bedside.
You haven't talked to her since she went on bed.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
I think he's like, I think he's like worried that
other cops are talking to Like he thinks that he's
the only one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Oh so he's just he's ferreting out information. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
Yeah, he's in the freason of Rolin's friend zone.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
I have cares to the other kids like, yeah, I
know what that's like. Bro. Anyway, I'm in the friend
zone with a lady that's nine months pregnant. Not my baby,
by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
So like, could be worse, could be worse, could be worse.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
So she gives birth to that baby. I'm putting a
clock on that. Whenever she's gonna be ready, then I'm
gonna make my move, you know, with that infant?

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
Did you get confirmation that the doer is the son
of this guy Ray Marino? Who?

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
And they're like, okay, great, well let's go a little
bit deeper. So we've got these two kids, there's clearly
other kids that he's got.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Yeah, we're looking for another illegitimate son of a dead man.
But Warner also knows that from the like health of
the spur, I guess which is that's.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
A fucking nuns And they even call that out. She's like,
it's not science per se. But I don't know the
ballpark between I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Twenty reading the tea leaves yeah, closer to twenty than forty, right,
And maybe he's last born of all of the children,
because they're all in there, like late.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
Thirties, I sure if you if you say so. Show.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
They finally approach missus Marino and they're like, so, was
your husband cheating on you a lot?

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
And meanwhile, the other the lawyer's son is there like
walking yes, and she's like, no, we were married for
forty years and Dodd's we met and we met in
the eighth grade. That's like, yeah, forty years, that's a
long time. He probably fucked other women, right. She's like,
get the fuck out of here, go away, stop ruining
my life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
And of course her name is Camille Marino. You know
what across a Camille Marino. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:20):
So Camille goes inside and the Sun is like the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Last thing she says is like, we're gonna sue the NYPD.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
You should. And then the Sun is like, go go
take like a barbituate or something you can't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
So he's like, man, so I've got another I've got
another brother out there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
They're like yeah, we've got the DNA to prove it.
He's like, well, there was this one time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I remember, Yeah, my dad was a handsome, charming bus
driver and all the ladies want to fuck the handsome
charming bus driver.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
It was like, like you do and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
And so he took us to the fair one weekend.
I'm going to affair this weekend, and we ran into
one of his friends with her two kids, her twins,
and I was jealous because my dad like fond over
those twins and yeah, he said, my dad's like a football.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Yeah, spent fifty bucks on like a carnival game, which
like back in those days, like Jesus Christ, buddy, like
it's a lot of money. Just give the guy the
fifty to be like, hand me that. Yeah, all no
questions asked. It'll save you some fucking effort.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
There's a similar joke to this in the New Final
Destination movie.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Oh there you go. Ye literally just like oh yeah,
I remember they got the He had the two twins,
the boy and the girl, and it was like, why
do you remember all this? She's like, because I was
fucking jealous of those kids because he doted on them,
and he's putting it together. It's like, oh, because those
were his fucking kids. And he made us promise my
brother and I to never tell mom about.

Speaker 2 (01:18:55):
Well that we ran into his friend Stella. Yeah, and
they're like, okay, she worked at the City Island Museum.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
It's like she probably still works there, because you know
time time stands still on this island and everyone just
does the same thing. So they go to talk to
her again this tiny ass island. What fucking museum is
there on this island?

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Apparently there is a City Island Museum. It opens one
pm on Saturday. I think it's only open on the weekends,
and it houses artifacts and photos on City Island and
its boating history.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
Great. So they go to the museum one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Ninety Fordham Street. Anyone's trying to go to the City
Island Museum. Sure, so they go to. They wait till
it's sat for a Saturday. I guess tomorrow's Sunday because
we learned that from hell. So it's all tracks.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Actually, wow, they they missed so many other things, but
they are dead on accurate for this.

Speaker 2 (01:19:54):
I'm pretty sure that was an accident.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
So they're talking to her and she's like like, yeah,
my son died in a motorcycle accident ten years ago.
And they're like okay, and the dad was, uh was
Ray Marino. She's like, how do you know that. They're like,
because we know a lot of things. We know things.
So your son's dead, huh. So that means there is

(01:20:20):
yet another it should have been child. Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
She's like, oh, yeah, I know who that child is
from because uh, my best friend Helen also fucked Ray Marino.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
So they're like, well, now we gotta go find yet
another fuck buddy of Ray Marino. And they don't even
go to find this person. They just put like all
the pictures on the whiteboard, like okay.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
They talked to Helen, and Helen, oh she said like
the boutique. She's like, I never cheated on my husband.
All my sons are my sons. I don't even know
Ray Marino. I mean I know him, went to his
funeral because like it's City Island. Eight people live here,
but like, fuck you pig, and my sons love me
and they go they come over every Sunday for Italian time.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Yeah, so they're like, all right, what's gotta be one
of these three kids? Then I guess, And they've got
the big board in the squad room and it's just
so many fuck it's like Ray Marino, just so many
red red string going all the different.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
Fucking kids would be like a kind of a cream
colored string. Well, if we're if we're being literal and
uh parolescent.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
So now they're trying to figure out it's all right,
well how do we how do we get the.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
DNA of all of these They also say, no wonder
this man died of a heart.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Yeah, that's a fin line that's pretty good. So they decide, okay,
we need their DNA, and we know that they these
kids all go to their mom's house every Sunday, so
let's set up a DUI check point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
That's that's that's plan B. Because because Dodds's first plan
is let's get it a court order for every man
on the ages of twenty and forty for their DNA
and grease, He's like, no that.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
No judge is gonna sign that, you know, those pesky
civil liberties and all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
So, uh, this is like some fucking ten plague ship.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Yeah. So the backup plan is, let's set up a
DUI checkpoint and we'll get the DNA that way, which
also feels illegally compelled.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
It does feel illegally compelled, however, pretty pretty inventive game
recognized game.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
I mean sure, Uh so cut to dods of Greasy
and like beat cop uniforms doing dui checkpoints.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
And and frankly, if City Island is as small as
a town as we're thinking, they are probably roping so
many trunk drivers.

Speaker 1 (01:22:42):
Oh yeah, Plus you figure all these guys would know
it's like, who the fuck are you?

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
Yeah, you probably know your local cops.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
You would, you would think. So they stop which which
kid is his? It's like Greg or something.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
They stop Gary, Gary, Gary Gary that we don't even
meet the other two.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
They're just pictures, right, And we find we know Gary
is a he's like works for a beverage distribution company
or something like that. So they stop him and Greas
is like, hey, you know, I don't want to be
stopping you, but uh, I don't know. Someone died the
other day and all the bombs are upset, so you
know how it goes, So go ahead and blow blow
into this. Dodds is checking in the back of the van.

(01:23:23):
I believe this is in illegal search, but that's okay whatever,
we're not going to address that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Well yeah, and he but he finds the fernie pads
and the ratchet straps.

Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Right, so they now have the DNA and it's a
it's a dead on.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Match ninety percent match or something.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Yeah. Two, Well they they YadA YadA, is like, oh,
we have the DNA of all three brothers, but we
only sold the one, so that's the only one we.

Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
Care about that. Dodd says, like my dad always says,
pick him up and find the excuse later.

Speaker 1 (01:23:52):
It's it's a wonder your dad has dad made it
through the ranks of the nypds.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
So they go to the beverage distribution place and they
ask the Gary's boss if he's ever been up to
Asphalt Green, which is like the area where Lily was
disappeared from. And I'm like, couldn't you have done that
before you illegally got their DNA? Couldn't you have like
figured out which of the brothers goes to her neighborhood

(01:24:19):
because the butts like, oh, yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
So like he's like, yeah, I'll give him a call
right now. They're like no, no, no, we got it,
which is how if you're the boss, you should be
like you should immediately call him, be like the cops
are coming.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
From they're here, They're here for you. Yeah, And he
and they find him and he's a classic runner yep,
practically a throwback yep.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
He runs, Dodds chases him down and is very aggressive
in doing so.

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
The difference between this and the classic running situation is
now people are watching and pulling out their cell phones.
Times sure have changed.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Yeah, and care easy caresy has to be like, hey, sarge,
everyone is filming you right now, So maybe stop saying
threatening things to like give me an excuse or reason
or something to that effect.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
Also like he should not be sergeant if his if
fucking dominic careesie is like, you are doing this wrong again.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
It's that law school that he's working on that's really
pulling him back.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
And so they've they've got his DNA. They think they've
got everything, but Dodds really wants.

Speaker 1 (01:25:22):
To do They literally say like we have literally everything.
We have his DNA on her body, we have her
DNA in his truck. We have everything. We have everything
that we need.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
Not enough, baby Dodds wants that confession.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
Well, he's like, a confession can't hurt Live says, if
it's coerced, it can.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
He's like, listen, I coursed that the last guy went
a little too far, but now I promise I'll coerce
the right guy.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
At least the show has the awareness to be like, Okay,
if we're gonna have this scene, at least Live is
in the box with him, to be like, Okay, when
this goes south, which it will, Live can be there
to be like Dodds, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
And there is a line where he's like, we have
everything except for the why, and I think Finn's like,
there's never there?

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:26:12):
So why Like whatever the answer is gonna be is
whatever it's going to be, it's not going to be satisfied,
like whatever you're feeling right now, Dodds, this isn't gonna
fix it. And he's just like, yeah, I don't care.
I gotta do it anyway. Cut to the interrogation room.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
And and and to thank God, we don't have to
see this again. But but Gary just immediately confesses He's like, ah, yeah,
I picked her up. She smiled at me, so I
asked her if she wanted to ride home, and I came,
I gave her. I gave her so that's creepy, and
she got in all of all on her own, and
I kissed her and she laughed at me, or she

(01:26:49):
didn't laugh at me. She started yelling at me, and
I didn't want people to hear, so I shook her,
and then I pulled her into the back and shook
her until.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
It was first I put my head over her mouth
because she was and then I pulled her into the
back and shook her again. None of until yeah, and
then hit her head and then I just sat there
with the body for a while, thinking she might wake up,
and then she didn't, so that I fucking wrapped her
up in those sheets and shit till it got dark,
dropped her onder the the on wrap there, and uh.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
I bango, I feel real bad about it, though, Yeah, yeah,
I knew no one would believe me. I was so
sick about it. You weren't that sick about it or
else you want to confess.

Speaker 1 (01:27:27):
You also jerked off on her, so you didn't feel
that bad.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
You also jerked off one, which we don't.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
They never bring up again the only reason we well
not the only because we have the DNA under the fingernails,
but they say they specifically call out that the Seman
match was a ninety nine point. So it's again, where's
the Semen coming from? Buddy? We know where the Semen
comes from?

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
But fun fact. I so the way I pull up
all the episodes, the easiest way of found on IMDb
is just I just google SVU and then the season
and episode number, and there's a reddit threat from four
years ago, so several years after the episode came out.
Season seventeen, Episode eight, how did the seven get on
the girl? Guess? Yeah, also fucking guess. But but like

(01:28:12):
this is definitely a thing that that that is bugging people.

Speaker 1 (01:28:17):
Because yet again this is an instance of why is
S for you covering this case? It's a shid I
guess the semen not really, I mean yes, but they
don't know if there's any sex crime there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Correct, it was just a murder. It was just a murder,
and like you know, a prelude to a sex crime
I suppose, I.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Mean, is jerking off on a dead body of crime?

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Yeah, but he tried to This is America. He tried
to get it in. This is America. If if living
in a country where jerking off on a dead body
is wrong, I don't want to be right. My name
is See at the Canyon Genyon Day And so I

(01:29:01):
said this earlier, but I like kind of the the
unforgiving randomness of this episode. I don't like it, but
I think it is like a It's more powerful that
way than it would have been of like this guy
who is a mass kitty rapist, murderer, Dexter style or something.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
Yeah, because we get the scene after he confesses and
says all of this where they go to tell the
parents every everything, and the parents are like why why
and they're just like.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
There is no why really wrong place, wrong time, and
and Dodds cannot get over like how Lily's parents are
never going to recover from this. And this is where
as you said, this is where Olivia goes. We caught
the guy. That's as good as it gets. And even
Fit is like, I'm glad that one was. That's over.
That's a one.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Yeah, I mean, but here's the other thing for Dodds.
I I just I can't help if he was he
was an anti crime again, so fucking stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
But assume Hamad like this can't be all that different
than things that you saw any.

Speaker 1 (01:30:09):
Other homicide case, like because even if it's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Oh, unless he was like a desk jockey, like unless
because he's like the deputy chief's kid, he's like never
really see he just maybe I don't know. That's that's
given the show a lot of credit.

Speaker 1 (01:30:28):
I think I agree, but I I just I can't
help but think because even if it's like, oh, it
was a it was it was a gang shooting gone raw,
it was it was for fucking it's like, you know
it feels a bit like all of that for a
little bit of money, Like it's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
At the end of the days. It feels like the
end of Fargo, all that for a little bit of money, right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
No matter what, if for from Dodds's perspective, I would
think like there's never a good read, Like, if you're
investigating a murder, what's the good unless.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
It was never a good enough reason to murders? Yeah,
with very few exceptions, Right, So that's sway baby Hitler perhaps, right, It.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Just doesn't it doesn't make a lot of sense, like
it works if we didn't know Dodds's like, he is
a ranking member, so he's presumably done a bunch of shits.
Even if he's a desk jockey. He's come across. He's
a cop, He's come across all of these things. He's
a detective. He's not a beat cop. He's a fucking detective.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so all got to have a little
bit of a thicker skin, right, And I guess you.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
Know, every time on SBU whatever we like, going back
to the Stabler years, the kids cases were always difficult
on everyone in the squad.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
So yeah, this this did feel like kind of a
Stablor years episode and Staylor would have had a similar
issue with this case because of the daughters and blah blah.
And then our last moment is that all the whole
gang is going to go over to Rollins's not hospital room,
but house couldn't be hospital room. What with this?

Speaker 1 (01:32:00):
Have it a part? Does she have furniture anymore? Is
she just sleeping on the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Kim just took everything and she's I have no bed
to rest and h and Carisee, he's gonna cook a
real meal?

Speaker 1 (01:32:13):
Would you trust anything that Creasey cooked? Absolutely not. I
don't know. Something tells me like he would cook really
good Italian food.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
He just brings over a whole brandsy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:22):
No, it's an aggressive fish.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
And Olivia hangs back to sort of give Dodds a
pep talk, and Dods is like, you have a kid
that's got to make this job harder.

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
I'm like, shut the fuck up about the kid. I
loathe this development in this series.

Speaker 2 (01:32:38):
Yeah, and Olivia says, I'm gonna tell you something I
wish someone told me when I started the job. Go home,
talk to somebody love, don't make this job your whole life.
Dick Wolf, Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Boy, maybe you should listen to your own advice.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
Yeah, time machine baby. But all in all, I thought
that this was like a relatively strong episode, especially compared
to the dug ship that we've been getting.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Yeah, and not nearly as infuriating as many of the
other ones. But uh, you know, we we have our
issues with it, but that's on the scale of issues.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
It's the we've made this job our lives.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
Yeah, exactly so.

Speaker 2 (01:33:15):
From Trivia Corner. Polar Witherspoon, who played Helen, one of
the actual mother of the doer Okay, has been two
other characters in three other episodes. She played a woman
named Julie Hinton in both Manic and Careless from season five.

(01:33:37):
Side effects of medication may have caused a mass caused
the school shooting. That's that's Manic, And then she was
also just a cop in the episode Consent. But the
more interesting bit of Trivia Corner is this is based
on the murder of Yarra Gambierassios first take, no rehearsal

(01:33:59):
necessary not. On November twenty six, twenty ten, Yara was
thirteen years old. She's Italian. She disappeared after gymnastics practice
in Lombardi Italy, and three months later her body was
found and then there was trace genetic material taken from
her clothing, and forensic scientists analyzed twenty two thousand DNA profiles,

(01:34:23):
which led them to Giuseppe Guerinani, who died ten years
before that in nineteen ninety nine. Twelve years before that.
Massimo Bossetti was the doer and he was a local
construction worker, and his DNA matched giuseppees but the search
was long and complicated because he was Giseeppe's illegitimate son

(01:34:45):
and no one else even knew that. But Bossetti, the doer,
was sentenced to life in prison in twenty sixteen after
this episode came out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
Huh how about that? Yeah, because whenever they were talking
about the familial DNA and such, I was just thinking
of the way they caught the Golden State.

Speaker 2 (01:35:05):
Killer, yes, which is way after this, right, but this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Because it's like it's the same thing, except it was
just for twenty three and meters rather than an actual
coatis or.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Government whatever, which is like not great. The twenty three
and meal give no, And then.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Of course they they went bankrupted. It's like, of course
they're just selling everyone's DNA formation. So I was like, yeah, yeah,
this is why you don't do that. Guys. So Hedge
Fund now owns your DNA think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
But from the goof's department, this is incorrectly regarded as goofs.
When Olivia is searching for Noah at the playground, she
finds him on the ground with other kids. When she
nears a tree across from where he is, there is
no one standing there. And then when we cut back
to that shot, now there is a man leaning against
the tree. This is not a goof because the tree

(01:35:55):
is large enough to hide a grown man from the
angle at which Olivia approaches.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
So it's a goof of a goof.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
Yeah, it is a goof of a goof cool. So
from user review Corner, our favorite part of the show.
This is from Tim Tam four zero eight six zero
from Tim not Tim Tam not Tim Tam Slam from
March sixteenth, twenty seventeen. Ten out of ten stars. It's

(01:36:23):
based on a true story. And because of that, ten
out of ten it's based on a true story. If
you need more info, search Yara Gambiasio the victim or
Massi mobi Setti the killer. It's based on a real
story of the poor Yarra gom Gombiasiro and Masambi Seti
convicted of his murder her murder. If you want more

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information about it, look for their names on the network.
Oh boy, oh okay. From the Other side of the
Aisle from Sarah Leah Coppolos from January twenty first, twenty nineteen,
two edit. Ten stars. Inconsistent storyline. When the guy was confessing,

(01:37:07):
claiming it was an accident, he doesn't mention any sexual assault. However,
the semen on her leg yep is how they caught him. Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
Yeah, that's the whole two out of ten stars.

Speaker 1 (01:37:19):
That would be enough to make me dock it all
of those points be like, yeah, no, no, you missed
the whole part.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Where did Jiz come from? And that's our episode for
this week. Lauderders You Season seventeen, episode eight, the official
closed loop. We are here This This aired November eleventh,
twenty fifteen, and our first episode dropped November tenth, twenty fifteen.

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Yeah, hell yeah, we I mean going down from here. Yeah.

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ten years. Jesus Christ, let us know where SU podcast
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Hell yeah, and tune in next week. I got a
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episode nine, entitled Depravity Standard In a prior case, the
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(01:38:31):
over and an overreaching volunteer cop. Oh god, no Carreese
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the deal. Alex Karpowski we have Alice Karpowski is Stephen Lomitin.

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You'll you'll recognize them when you see him. Yeah, I
remember the name.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
I'm sorry I forgot to mention. Bead Wong is back
as doctor George Wan figment of Crankin's imagination.

Speaker 1 (01:39:09):
That's gonna be real tricky to explain this one then.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
And last but not lead a twin and last, but
not least. Tom Sizemore is back.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Oh my god. I could not wait for next week's episode.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
And until that. So this is I think he plays
the same guy. I mean he he played, he played.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
As we said, he just played. Heah, yeah, he break.
He's to get a part of it with the fires,
the fires break, the red strikes. Yeah. I sleep on
a bed on the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
What of it?

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
What of it?

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
Because I think he's he there's like a plea deal
for him.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
Yeah. Tom Sosbourn needed money, man, Oh my god, he
needed money.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
Is he's long?

Speaker 1 (01:39:47):
No, yes, no, no, no.

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Twenty twenty three he died. He's one of the guys
that died right after we talked about him. Yes, I
think so much like Liza. Liza cologne Zias is also
in it. You might recognize Liza Colone Zias as Lisa.
I think her name is Lisa and the Bear, Sorry, Tina,

(01:40:10):
Tina and the Bear, the like Little Fiery Latin show
Karmie Jeff Yes, yeah, yeah, So she's great. I think
next week they're putting their whole bussy's into next week's episode.

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