Episode 376 - S17E10 - Catfishing Teacher - Law and Order: Special Viewing Unit

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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and Order, A special viewing unit, the show review, review,
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the beginning.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Why because we like you.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And so you don't have to. I am your host,
bat Reuter, joining me as always the yep, the wrestling
coach of this podcast. Come on, that's a v room
side over there? How yeah? Fuck you eat shit, buddy,
that's MeV room side over there. How are you doing tonight, Aviv?
What with all of your wrestling activities?

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I bet you played football? Right? Sexy football? This this
guy gets its.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Yeah, you're you're prejudice. This guy gets it. You get it.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
If you're ever in an interrogation room under no circumstances,
should you be like this guy gets it?

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I mean I think it might work out well, Oh
actually no, he died. Never mind. I was like I
might Oh no, he died.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
No, here's plenty of kids to rape in hell.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Is that how that works?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (01:05):
No, because I think he would derive present pleasure from that,
so he wouldn't be able to rape them.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
But it's the kids that he doesn't want, so he's.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Forced to rape the kids that he doesn't want because
the kids being raped is also their version of hell. Right,
it's a it's a matchmaking process in hell where it's like, well,
you know, those kids aren't gonna like that, and this
guy's not gonna like he's gonna sort of like it,
but like.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Not but like not really not really he will he
won't find fulfillment in his work.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Right, It's not like, right, I don't. That's that's this
is a terrible road we're going down. How are you
doing tonight of eve? Sounds like you've had a.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Hell of a day. I've had allday the story that.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
We were talking about before, did that that you know
what I mean? It sounds like you've had a great day.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
How I had nothing, but I have nothing but sugar today.
I wanted to give a quick room sign does not
recommend oh fucking students, Yeah, don't fuck, don't funk the students.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
If you're a teacher, just just in general, then out
there it seems seems appropriate.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
How's your week been? Clear and clear in the runway
for you?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, here you go. Uh, week has actually been pretty good.
Couple couple things. Went to a and an animal themed
trivia night put on by the local.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Zoo animals, so that the questions were answering questions. Yes,
you didn't have to dress up like a giraffe.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
No no, no, no no, which was fun and it was
the proceeds went to benefit the zoo, which is, you know,
support animals, right, Like I like animals bo other people,
so uh fine with sure. So was that was a
lot of fun at the place that we normally go
to trivia, just this was on a different night. So
I was like, all right, well fuck it, it's just

(02:56):
a different night trivia at the same place, and this
one is for charity.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So that was funny.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
You know, a bunch of bunch of fun animal theme
trivia and.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Then you learned anything about animals.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I did, so like one of the trivia questions, well
I heard learned a bunch of stuff. Actually, one of
the trivia questions was it was like a matching scenario
where it gave you the It was like fifteen names
for like groups of animals crows, right, yeah, like that stuff,
and some of them I was just like, it's like
it's like a business of ferrets.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, I did know that from like random Instagram fast.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I did know. I was like a business of what
the fuck does that mean? Like it's like a conclave
of owls, like a complication or something like that. But
all of this ship there was something I did know,
So I was like, ah, no one's gonna get that.
So like just a bunch of fun stuff like that,
and you had to like match they did like super
close ups of like the fur and scales and he

(03:52):
had to match like to the different animals and scales. Yeah,
so a lot of fun. Uh And then and last
night we went down to uh Takoma to catch a
Rainiers game with uh Cassie's brother and his girlfriend, which
was fantastic. It went. It was a walk off we
and we we were the We were seated next to

(04:16):
a guy who was there by himself, younger kid who
and we were fairly close.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Not abducted by his wrestling coach.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Not not well not when we were there. We don't
know what happened after we left, but this guy just
the heckling every single hitch.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
But it was hilarious, like late night.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Right, and it was like there was one guy was
like I forget what it was like one of the
guys he was like five nine and like thirty two
years old in the in the minors, and he's like,
you're you're fucking old and short. I'm like, that's just me, man,
that's now you're not even getting creative. You're just like.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Now you just getting fit. You're just being to these.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
People, right.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
But at some point in time, just because he was
so over the top, like we started just being over
the top too, because fucking why not. It's a fun Again,
if you've never been to a minor league game, go
to one, because they are just.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
A shit ton of fun totally.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
And at some point there was one guy just randomly
who had not been doing well. I think it was
like zero for two from the plate, and so we
just started like chanting his name and got the whole
stadium to start chanting his name, and then he hit
a fucking three run Howard to like tie up the game.
So we were like we did that that. Yeah, Yeah,
it was really really funny. So that was a lot

(05:35):
of fun. However, one thing that came to my attention
on the drive down to Tacoma.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Uh, is that Washington Trump Country.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
No, No, not not between here and Tacoma. There were
still firmly in the blue part of the state there.
So Cassie was on her phone and read something to me,
and I was like, I am just going to wrap
this car around a telephone pole or a Jersey barrier
and you should die because I don't want to be
alive anymore. Finding out that big fan of this podcast,

(06:07):
our favorite person on this podcast one missus or miss
excuse me, Sidney Sweeney.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Oh the bathwater thing, the bath I found this out today.
I I almost sent it to you.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Someone. Please, you have by express permission to murder me
on site. If it's your money, just kill me, because
at this point I was like, so you just don't
want to be like, honest to God, you know what
you should just do at this point, Sidney Sweeney, since
you clearly aren't taking yourself seriously, just starting only fans,

(06:42):
honest to God, you would make more more money doing
that than you would on any acting or cross promotional activity.
If you are literally trying to be like I'm going
to sell you how they are going to market this
as soap as some sort of a sanitary product when
it's used bathwater. I don't understand how the fuck that

(07:04):
can happen. Also to the people, like you know who
you're selling this to. It's a very specific customer.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Yeah, they're gonna use it to jerk off.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Right, which is why I'm saying, cut out the middleman,
Sydney Sweetey, just starting only fans. All the money goes
to you.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
For more the listeners. I want you to. I want
you to know. I want you to. I want you
to understand the gambit that Matt is playing right now.
What you like He's like, I'm so disgusted by this,
this A list actor being horny on Maine. Why don't
you just started only fans.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Actor?

Speaker 2 (07:43):
She is?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
She's not, she's not.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
She is a very I don't think she's a great actor,
but she is. She's on the A list for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
I then the list also needs to burn that. We
need to just start over.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Because gambit is I'm so dissed. Why don't you just
start an only fans that I definitely won't watch win.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I would have more respect for if she was just like,
I understand what's happening here, not this like fig Leaf
nonsense of like oh my used bathwater. I'm like, what
are you doing honest to God, like you're not taking
yourself seriously.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
To me that I think that is transparently her acknowledging
what this is.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
It's just it seems like if you're doing that, it's
such a half measure to me, where.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
It's like it is not a half measure to be
I almost said it to you this morning. Be like
every day we stray further from God's light, if.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
You were her and that is your like acknowledgement of like, yeah,
I get it, Like, then just just do it, like,
just fucking go for it.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Don't do this not so much funny. You think she's
gonna make off that, So I guess there's only five
thousand made or something. Really, it's probably gonna be really expensive.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Here's the thing. I think the secondary market is going
to give that a real.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Money Sydney Sweeney soap.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think the the aftermarket sales are gonna be where
the real money is.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
How it's a newsweek how to get Sydney sweeya.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Like, I swear to God, the five thousand are gonna
sell out and the rest are gonna have to buy
on the dark web.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Oh yeah, like only it's only eight dollars which I
you know, it's a lot for soap, but like I
truly yeah, that's what I mean, Like, I truly think
that they are going.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
To They're gonna they'll sell out. Somebody's going to buy
five thousand bars of that. They're gonna buy a gross
of it and then just sell it to fucking perverts
for fucking six hundred dollars so they can loop up
their dicks and jerk it off to Sydney Sweeney fucking
bath water soap. But again, is there not a regulatory

(09:52):
body out there that's gonna be like you, well, yeah as.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Soap RFK juniors like this well curtism.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
And then not not to be outdone.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Okay, tell me more. I love this. I don't know
if I know anything beyond the soap. It's medium grit
by the way, sure, you know great. I think that's
probably disincentivizes people from jerking off with it because there's
like well activation beads in it.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
The the other thing where I was just like again
going into the you people need jobs and society needs
to crumble. The did you did you hear about the
end of the war today?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Of eve? What war?

Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's it's VT day victory Taylor day as she Rea.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
I did. I did see this good for good for
Taylor and the like.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
There were millions of millions of lives lives lost between
the battle.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Between person their favorite Internet person got the thing that
she wanted and like, let's be honest, kind of deserves it's.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I want so badly you've for yes, I have, and
I will tell you it was seventy five thousand of
the worst people I have ever seen it by entire
life in that stadium.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yeah, period, full fucking stop.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Like I have never seen so many people that I
was just like, you know, if the stadium were to collapse,
that's sacrifice I'm willing to make for the greater good.
Cheering for the stadium collapse. Sure, And then she put
out like a written note of like several pages where

(11:39):
she's like, by the way, the things like the new
records that I was gonna put out, Yeah, I'm not
gonna do that anymore. Yeah, I've gotten anything.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
That's my favorite. That's my favorite thing is like everyone's
been waiting for reputation Taylor's version, and now it's never
gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Right, She's like, well, now I've got all the money.
But I'm like, that's also a terrible business decision for
someone that is supposed to be the savvy business person.
It's like, no, then you get all of that and
all of the new stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
It's a thing, and it seems so I read. I
read when this was like the rumblings of this was
starting to happen. I read that when her new versions
of records come out, the old records also see a
spike in sales, So like, just fucking keep rerecording shit,
Who cares? Man? I mean, it is just it's if

(12:22):
you're gonna fleece fans, fleece them, I know.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
And this is the thing. It's the fact, like I
really want like on various like what social media is,
Reddit's everything like that. It's like whatever people are going off,
all of these threat It's like I want people to
just start putting in just like blocks of texts explaining
what cults are.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah. Sure, it just be like.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You don't see it, you're fine with okay, you know,
I just want to make sure that you're aware of
exactly what's happening here.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Okay, you should say your name now, I won't.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I am Matt fucking Reuter, and I got news to
tell you. If you've got a fucking issue with that statement,
look in the goddamn mirror. I know you celebrating a
billionaire fighting another billionaire over her making even more billions
of dollars with your fucking money, by the way, not
her money, your fucking money, and you treat it as
if it's a triumph of society like this, it's gonna

(13:16):
be renaissance of the human.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Fucking it's inspirate feminists to not want Taylor Swift to
have more money.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I really, really am fucking infurio. It's like, literally, we're
watching society crumble and people are celebrated like yues, this
other billionaire is gonna make so many more billions of
dollars off of me because I need to buy thirty
five of the same fucking thing that I have, and
just to promote rampant consumerism and yay cat like fuck

(13:44):
you read a book, get a job.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Oh, she's read plenty of books. You the fans, the
fans in as you can tell in the song so
high School. He knows how to ball. I know, Aristotle.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I I just I'm gonna fucking chew the neck off
of this fucking glass bottle and die on air this.
Can we just get to the revolution? Can we just
stop fucking around and just do it already? What are
we waiting for? What? What are we waiting for? At
this point? I don't understand, like we're all just sitting

(14:21):
around waiting for someone else, Like, fuck it, does someone
someone do it? Just some would fucking do it.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
She said that, uh, rep TV and Self Titled TV
can still have their moments to re emerge when the
time is right.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Whatever I need another billion of dollars.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Whenever, some whenever, some other woman might get the number
one slot on Billboard.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Yeah, so basically whatever Olivia Rodrigo is gonna drop her
next album.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
She's right down the day before the next Chapel Road album,
right or something.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Because it's it's all about it's it's the cult of
this is just oh yeah, fucking it's insane.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I I also speaking of of of women that we
don't like, blond women that we don't like. Do you
know the theory about Jake J. K Rowling.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
I did see that too, where it's like the fact
that no one's taken a shot at her yet, is
it is truly incredible.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well, the theory is very fun because it's it's that
her whatever, her complex, her her castle that she lives in,
has black mold that's poisoning her mind good, which which
which might be what is causing the Uh no.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
No, no no, don't don't give her a fucking excuse for
being a bigot.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
All right, that's kind of what I think, but that.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
She's being slowly poisoned by black mold and that's why
she's become.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Become anti a horrible turf.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
Yeah, it's just I I I I just I can't.
I fucking can't anymore. Man. This is it's just it's
just exhausting to get out of bed to deal with
the world on a day to day basis. You know,
it's it's it's the bath water used bath really, really

(16:15):
fucking really.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I Also, it's like the kids putting blood in their records,
like it's not it's not a fucking real bath. Come on, guys,
let's be serious.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
What exactly what She's gonna take a bath and some
asshole with a bucket's gonna come over and be like
all right, and we're gonna siphon it all out now
and then take it all the soap factory.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I think it's like the water that they used to
make the soap. She like dipped her finger. Yeah, right,
So technically it's not false.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's it's you know, it's an exaggeration in advance.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Now, mail bag, I can't.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
I can't fucking do this anywhere, all right? Uh? Yes,
quick trip to the mail bag for the male. At
least I don't know about the blue.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Be quick, be quick. First, Lily Lily an email entitled Drop.
I can't turn off. This is not Lily writing, this
is me. I can't turn off the AI feature on
my Gmail, and so the uh it just asks me
if I want to summarize this email, which is probably

(17:17):
in total about twenty words long. Lily writes, Hi, M
and A. We just watched Drop eighty five rating on
Rotten Tomatoes. It's the most confusing film. It totally deserves
a takedown theater. Lily, I don't think it's confusing. I've
heard a lot of things about Drop. Complicated is not

(17:40):
one of them. But she says the whole time, you're
just confused. They tried to make it. Lady Diehard Bye,
the Agent of Chaos, the Batman, No Lily and Her
Robin Gareth ps Hirose Lovey Rose thinks.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I'm on, what is this movie?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
I oh, Drop is great? So Drop I don't mean
I haven't seen it, but Drop is a movie that
just came out recently about a woman who goes on
a date at like one of the like top of
the city restaurants, you know, like like, uh, sure you
understand what I'm talking about, right, Sure, okay, And at

(18:21):
the at the restaurant, she gets air dropped like increasingly
threatening things to her phone and it turns out that
like someone's in her house to trying to like she's
trying to get her to like kill her date or something,
and uh and it's it's a little bit like, oh man,

(18:44):
what was the Red Eye? Which I thought was kind
of kind.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Of saw that movie once with me, I.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Think, oh really, no, No, I saw it in the
I saw in the theater. I didn't love it, but
I liked it.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I mean it was it was forgettable.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah. So it stars Megan Fayhee, who was in the
second season of White Lotus and basically no one else
that you would recommend or not recognize, not recommend Jesus
and fun fact for basically just Lily is. Uh. It

(19:20):
is based on a treatment that was written by like
a friend of a friend of mine, and it actually
is kind of a true story. It's like based on
a true story, which is that they were at a
restaurant and someone was air dropping like extremely lewde things
like you know, dick picts or whatever, and so they

(19:40):
started spitballing like how would this be a cool kind
of horror action movie, and so they turned it into drop. Uh. Yeah,
I guess the date is about to testify against the mayor.
That's why they're trying to assassinate him. Okay, okay, I
mean sure, I haven't seen it. Leanne saw it. I don't.

(20:03):
I don't know that it's all that. Uh, it's I
think you might be overthinking it, Lily. It is it
is a movie about malicious air drops to your phone.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, when you boil it down that way, you I
I'm gonna stay away from it no matter what. So
that's fine. Thanks for the not recommendation. I guess it.
If you're asking us to take it to take down theater,
it's it's not recommendation.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah. Yeah, I don't. I don't know that I'll ever
really catch up with it. Maybe maybe if I have
a slow Sunday. But yeah, I think Leanne may have
seen it. You have nothing better to do with your time. Sure,
your time is valueless, valueless.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
You're seeing this drop movie, You're seeing this ash movie.
It's all nothing.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
You have nothing, So thank you, Lily.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Next emails from listener Ezra, titled recommendation as it writes,
I watched Bret Goldstein's comedy special. He's hilarious. Also, he
looks great in it. If you watch it, you'll understand.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah. That means if we watch it, we will see
that he looks great in it.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah. I also know that his comedy isn't everyone's thing,
but I think we have similar sense of humor, and
I know that it made me laugh.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
I laugh.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Brett Goltzie, I mean I've listened to his a couple
lips of his podcasts.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yes, podcast is interesting.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Yeah, the movies be buried with obviously, his ted Lasso
is very fun his character on That's very funny. Have
not caught his stand up, although it is on my
list of things to watch on HBO, So I'll get
rid of that at some point. And that's all the
go mail it's fits to go mail. Do we have
any eat Blue Sky?

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yes, I think we do, but I didn't pull it
up because I forgot in a Nope, we don't.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
That's the end of mail bag then.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Yeah, so that's all the mail bag that fits a
mail bag. As always, you can get at us. We're
at sp podcast on Blue Sky, which is the official
Blue Sky of sending lude air drops.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
Oh you can take that to the bag.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Which Senator extremely it to this week's episode. Yeah, it
actually is.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Everything's coming together and for longer or reader suffer tweets,
ez email send us an email Special viewing Units trudelegmail
dot com. Exactly. See there it is.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
And now that that's out of the way, onto the
main event, we're gonna be viewing in reviewing Season seventeen
episode nine of SVU entitled Catfishing Teacher. Right after this
that we're back, and as we said before the break,
we're gonna be viewing in reviewing Season seventeen, episode nine
of SVU entitled Catfishing Teacher. Just reminder to our listeners,
all the episodes are available to watch on Hulu and

(22:34):
Peak Copy.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
Recommendly you've watched the episode before.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
You hear us break it down. This one is kind
of a nothing episode.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Honestly, it is kind of boring until the very end
with the I think that, like the Blast guy turned
the baltimeal Ryan Gosling turns in a pretty good performance. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
I would actually agree with you on that, both the
multimile right Gostling and the fact that it's a good
performance bike just.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
Like the Dead the Dead Puppet Eye.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
One hundred fucking percent. But before we get into breaking
down the.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Episode, who I have met?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
I know? Uh, give you a give you a pound?
As you were helping him load up?

Speaker 2 (23:15):
No, no, he he was helping me jump start the van.
Oh that's what it was. I wasn't helping him do shit.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Well I thought I thought you were helping him load
his No, his in his Okay, I guess not. But
in the greatest radition that we have on this podcast
of Vive, you're going to hit us with the ninety
second recap of what happened in this week's episode. So Vieve,
we're gonna put ninety seconds on the clock. Why didn't
you tell us what the fuck happened in this week's
episode of Best for You?

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Okay, you guys, Rollin's and Caresey have one scene where
Rollins falls in love with Careasey because he knows how
to furberize a baby. Meanwhile, someone's moaning in a Toyota
rav four. It's a teacher fucking a student. Dude, if
you're trying to keep a secret about fucking your teacher,
maybe don't hang there with the door open. So turn

(24:00):
out that this teacher English teacher of course is is
is fucking a couple of students, one in her rabbit
four and one in the supply closet. She's had sex
like three times in two hours. She even fucking machine
and uh. And so these two guys are are pretty
uh there, like the wrestling guys Jordan and Zach and

(24:23):
the wrestling towel boy Travis. Barstow is also getting these
sects from sex from this teacher. I was said, sects
like like of Islam. Uh, sects from this teacher. And
she's like, get your passport, meet me at the end
of the Long Island Railroad. It's gonna be great. And

(24:43):
he's like, you got it. The kid goes to the
end of the Long Island Railroad and everyone just keeps
walking into this dweeb, but car picks him up and
then he fucking disappears. Meanwhile, Mike Dodds is he's trying
to clean house for you. He's like, Ron's had a
baby fired, Carisy's shadowing Barbara fired, Finns, the black guy,

(25:06):
he's being lazy. Fired literally that's what he says. I mean,
not the black eye thing, but but he says, finds
me lazy. And so, uh, they see that this kid,
Travis is missing. They talk to his mom. His mom
is a real pill and she's she's married or X.

(25:26):
She's like X her ex husband is a handsome pilotman
with a lot of girlfriends and uh, and they're like,
why haven't you found our son yet? Check the hospitals
and and the morks and they they find is they
find They find out that the dad can check his
text because they share like an apple idea or whatever,
and he's been sexting a girl girl that's more like

(25:49):
a woman. Yikes. They talk to Principal Bernstein, who's definitely
partaking in sex workers. Why does he have his name's Bernstein?
Why does he have a Santa on his lot? I
have so many questions, and so they talked to Travis
and Jordan, the guys on the wrestling team, and they're like, oh, yeah,
we're definitely fucking this teacher, Phoebe. So they go find Phoebe.

(26:10):
They drag Phoebe's credit card. They find her at a
Vermont Ski Lodge, which is just the great Northern hotel
from Twin Peaks, and she's fucking her twenty she's twenty eight.
She's fucking her twenty one year old husband who she
met when she was a teacher and he was her
student and he's now an undergrad at Oberlin. Oh boy.
And so the jury they're like, well, we don't want

(26:32):
to bring this to Trout because the jury's going to
take one look at how hot she isn't say it's
impossible for her to rape anybody. And she's like, well,
I didn't rape Zach because Zach is, let's face it,
a dweeb, and I like boys who look like men.
Just why do I not go after men who can
say I like the power? And so she's like, check
the rest, check the wrestling coach, because you know how

(26:54):
they are wrestling coaches. And so they talked to the
They go to see that this wrestling coach has had
a little bit of an extra close relationship with some
of his his his students, uh, specifically one named Nat
Phelps and he uh, He's like, oh, yeah, they used to.

(27:16):
Coach used to take us up to Pennsylvania across state
lines and keep us in his cabin and he would
leave once a day to get us supplies. So they
go to this They go to this this town with
the They find the general store with the Viking in
front of it and uh and they're like, oh, where
does Coach live? And of course the clerk's like, oh,

(27:37):
Coach lives over there, and so they they go to
Coach's house that they have like this weird sting operation
with down power lines and uh, and they arrest him.
They find Zach in his bed. Olivia just whispers Zack Zack. Zack.
Zach wants everyone to know that he's not gay. Even

(27:57):
though he woke up with the with Coaches with his
Coach's mouth on his dick, He's not gay. He didn't
like it. He watches poorn okay regular poor with Girls.
That was almost my pull quote for the episode. I mean,
Judge Janine is there, horrible actor? What the fuck? Judge?

(28:18):
Judge o. Dwyer's eid is like a child. We just
we just so. The parents are like, Okay, my son
is Zach is not going to testify that a male
teacher fucked him. Please just let it leak that he
fucked the lady teacher. And everyone's like, oh, my fucking god,

(28:39):
he's serious. And so turns out, Uh, we have the
same legal wrinkles last episode, which is that no one
wants to testify to this crime. But this time they're like, listen,
if we get enough people to say that they're going
to testify, he's going to take a plea. Turns out
they say this to Nat. Nat, here's a bunch of
different stuff. Goes kidnaps, the kidnaps the coach, beats the

(29:01):
shit out of him, makes him confess, stabs him in
the gut, and then lets him bleed out in a chair.
And that comes with a video of all this to
SV you and is like, so you wanna fucking take
my statement that uh he raped me? And I have
literally literally and then Olivia's like, hey man, he died

(29:22):
on the way to the hospital. Please don't say anything
to us until you get a lawyer, and Doris like
you usually advise murderers of their rights. And she's like, listen,
he was raped, he was he was retaliating, like, we
don't want his life to be over, getting twenty five
years to life for this murder. And O'Dwyer has I
think a pretty good last yeah, good in in a

(29:48):
writing sort of way last line, which is his life
was over at fifteen Dick Wolf, Why is Judge Janine here?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Don't stop asking questions, you know.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
That's that's that's that's basically my only question. Really, so
I so all the other The other question is you
expect me to believe that Jordan Messina Red Leaves of Grass?

Speaker 1 (30:12):
No fucking I think I was assigned to read that
in college and I still didn't fucking read it. I
a couple, a couple of things. Just want to get
out of the out of the way up top here.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I have I have a crazy Timfoil had conspiracy about
this episode.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Go ahead, okay, love that general question for your consideration,
for yours and the listeners consideration, Why oh why if
you are an adult woman that apparently just cannot get
enough no matter what seems sure in using the parlance

(30:51):
of our times, showing trophy wife and in the parlants
of our times here, why are you literally going to
risk it all to fuck people that cannot be all
that good in bed because they are fucking children?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Great, I don't question get this?

Speaker 1 (31:08):
What what is this? What is it?

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Like?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I right, like I cannot be wrong about this. Oh,
let's like I don't even know. It's this like porn
high where it's like secretly they don't teach classes. It's
just a fucking it's a high school for boorn stars.
So it's like, ooh that might be like you know,
like I don't understand like fucking adult man that knows
what he's.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Doing that won't go down on you.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Or will last more than thirty five fucking seconds because
you're super hot at these are seventeen year old kids.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Hey, hey, hey, some of us strive for thirty five seconds.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
I know, and you know what you're doing the Lord's work.
But you know what I'm saying, like, what the fuck
is this about? I don't get this.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I really well, I think you got It's also like, uh,
you know, it's about power, right kink?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Okay? I mean I guess because it is ultimately it's
statutory rape at the end of the day. So shorts
rap about sex, it's about power, but like.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
It's so I think that.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
She's also fucking the twenty one year old. I mean,
I guess a rapist can have consensual sex as well
if they're.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Not exclusively, especially with someone that they used to write.
I think I think especially so men in general, blanket
blanket statement fetishized like younger women, right, we women. We
expect women to shave and and wear pigtails and all
this other stuff, and like society has just basically accepted

(32:34):
that of yeah, and and how and that's supposed to
be like at right, And we don't have the same
for infantalization for men. Who's Mommy's big boy, Like that's
fucked up. We don't. We don't like that. And so
I think that that's the element where it like makes

(32:56):
a little bit more sense to both of us that
a man, a male teacher would prey on a younger
woman's studio.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, like a yes, that makes sense to.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Me because society has basically okayed the idea that you
want him as young as young, you want him so
young that we had to make laws about how young
you could have them.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Right, and for like the second time. This in a
couple episodes when we had like the the pastor trying
to marry the fucking like right right, right right, and
the and the parents were like, that's not a big
deal to us, because why.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Wouldn't whatever, it's our culture.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Yeah, it seems so like I, I just I don't
get it the other the other fucking way.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, well, teenage boys are not notoriously good at sex.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
This is what I'm saying. Secondly, on this same note,
which I thought it was ironic that I saw this,
I was flipping through Reddit today.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Oh boy, I'm getting well it was. I didn't looking
for the youngest girls I can legally watch.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
It was I forget what the fucking subreddit even was.
I was just scrolling through, and it was like a
it was a picture of a news like a physical
picture of a newspaper from sometime recently, where like the
headline and like the pole quote underneath the type thing,
and it was like female teacher caught for having sex

(34:20):
with a student was turned in by like her her
victim or whatever like that. It was like okay, and
then like the underneath though, it was like the the
little sub line for it, and then there was a
quote with the picture of the victim kid okay, and
the underline was like, the victim, whatever the fuck his

(34:40):
name was turned in the teacher due to poor performance
during oral sex.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Hell yeah, and then you didn't you didn't blow me
a sixteen year old? Well enough, so I'm turning you
into the cops.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
And then it was a picture of the kid and
then under and this could be totally fucking made up.
I don't even know, but it's hilarious. The cutouns made
up because the fucking quote underneath was he was like,
I just don't get it. If you're gonna risk it all,
why would you do that with so much teeth?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
That's so funny.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
And I was like, ten out of ten not notes
on that, because that is it. It could be not
real at all. But when I was watching the episode today,
I was like, this is fucking hilarious. I'm just imagining.
One could be like, oh, yeah, well fuck you, missus.
Whatever the fund your name.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Is, Yeah, it's they say her name her last name
like ten times before I can figure out what it is.
It's burn app b u r n ap burn app, which, uh,
that's an interesting one.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
So if those are just the two things. I think
it's important to get out of the way before we
start breaking down the episode because I don't get it.
I just don't get it, and it turns out that
it doesn't even really.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
It doesn't matter. So so I will say I made
a bit of a guarantee the other day, said the
other La last episode, saying, I guarantee that either Careese
or Dodds will be like, Oh, I wish I had
teach you like that in high school. I was wrong
because Caresey is not in this episode. Basically, well, I

(36:10):
mean you were not.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
He's in it some what he's He's definitely taken a
back seat. But I will say this, you were not
completely right. You didn't hit the bullseye.

Speaker 2 (36:20):
But you're you're I'm on the target. Yeah, the dad.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Is just like if the dad and the lawyer are
just like, come on, I mean, good luck. It's if
you want to try and go for it, look at her.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
So we open with Amanda Dollins pushing her baby in
a stroller down the sidewalk. I have to remind everybody,
I have to we.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Have to talk about this. We have to talk about this.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Cut to black. Last episode in the middle of amanda
health emergency crisis.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Where live in caresy were kicked out of the room
because it's not the baby, it's something get her back
in my back. And then the doctors are like, oh god,
she might lose the baby, she might die herself, And
then we opened the done. Next episode just looks great.
Push it a baby.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
And the baby, she says in dialogue, is six weeks old.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Yeah, and she's going nuts on maternity leave.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
What the fuck happened? It's what six weeks?

Speaker 1 (37:23):
You know? Time cut?

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Literally, didn't you know how everyone was wearing glasses to
indicate the time had passed.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Yeah, their vision had gotten worse. And so the baby
starts crying. She's walking with crazy. The baby starts crying
and crazy like, oh bottom bing. You gotta furberize the baby.
That way she won't get any stains.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
And then Rollin's just like, hey, how you do it?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Yeah? Right? Do you know what the Ferber method is?
I think we've talked about on the show.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
It's like, is the a bounce it that's bounce with
the these That's what he was saying.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
So the Ferber method, Oh, that was like just let
him fucking cross cry it out. Yeah yeah, yahay a
long time. Uh so yeah, and then he bounces the
baby on his knee or whatever, and Amanda is like,
I'm gonna fuck that man. Some day.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I'm gonna marry that man.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I wonder if this is her real baby. Uh, it
would be weird if she just had a baby and
then they're like, here's the different baby, pretend it's yours.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
But also I'd be like, fuck, why no, why would
I bring my baby to well?

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Because because they're gonna pay you. They're gonna pay like
ten thousand dollars for that baby.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Oh well, okay, that's guy. I suppose that's fair. And
and you get paid too. Everyone gets paid.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Yeah everyone.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I guess if you're gonna have to bring the baby
anyway because you got to feed the baby, yeah, fuck it.
By as well get paid everybody. It's all grit, grifft
white can get it.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
Guys buy Sydney Sweetey's bathwater so well you can't if
you trust me.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
The resale market of that. The price is gonna go up.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
So so we hard cut to moaning in I have
to stress a Toyota rab four, the most romantic of
crossover utility vehicles.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
Here's the thing I I.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Got, Like, you ever bang it out in ARAB four
in a RAB four, I have not, second to none,
So it's the what's I was gonna say, Really, that's
the top no matter what?

Speaker 1 (39:29):
Wow? Who who would have thought the compact suv like
the full length one?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
It offers better lumbar support for LOADUS position.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Sure, I was gonna say I, and I guess I
get it from like a blocking perspective, but it's like,
it seems like they didn't put the seats down.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
You have a whole loadus position, right.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
But but I'm saying that seems it it Why would
like they're going across the back seat is supposed to
put that down, and then you basically a bed length
to work with. And that's like her car.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Repos gets it, Like, come on, if you're trying to
fucking a RAB four, you call Matt Reuter at to
six seven the Ruter technique, Yeah, the Ryder technique. Write
them seats down, baby.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
I fucking I detail car specific only wrap force though
specifically for.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
The purpose you detail them with your chism exactly, and uh,
you know if that in fact they've racing stripes.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
So we know because we know.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Okay, Also, in regards to the sex, it sounds like
this game is really giving it to it and I'm like,
I fight this heart to fucking yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Yeah, yeah, she's she's loving it.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Or she just never had sex before, like she's just.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Discovered absolutely had sex before.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Well I don't understand.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
At one point, I think that she's got of like
a brain tumor that's making her try to fuck everyone.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
No, we did that.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yeah, well that's what that was the Britney Snow episode.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
Right, we can't do that again.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
We sure can that. She just goes to a minimum
security women's prison with Britney Snow. That's the that's the
sequel episode.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I want to see where Britney Snow is getting out. Yeah,
she's been like she's like okay.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Now, just like sixty nine ing with Brittany Snow.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
That's a different movie.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, yeah, mind movie. So we know because we read
the like synopsis of this episode that she's a teacher
and he's a student, but they don't act like it
because he like buckles his pants with the door open,
buckles his pants up, and she's like putting her clothes

(41:44):
back on. She's like, don't be late to class, Like,
can you write me a note? They're just standing there
with the fucking door open in the school parking lot.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
Confidence, confidence, hell yeah, hell yeah? What are they gonna
do expel him?

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I mean even if the door were closed, it's still
the idea, Like maybe that's part of it. It's like, yeah,
where are the school parking lot?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
That probably is part of it.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
It's it's even more forbidden other than you know, the
crime that's being committed.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, I man, like I get the idea that Like,
she's a young hot teacher and she likes the fact
that the boys are all like drooling over her, and
she bestows her her gift to the boys of her choosing,
which are the wrestling guys.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Right, because when confronted with all of this, she's like,
I've done nothing wrong.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah, yeah, this is great for me.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
So like, she's actually the most interesting character in this episode.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
And wed she's so little time with her. Too bad,
we lose her immediately. So the sex boy we don't
know his name yet, but his name is Travis. Travis
goes back into school. He's hanging out with his friend Jordan,
and there's like like a third kind of dweeby Guy
by the locker and Zach. They're all late to class

(43:02):
because Jordan went out for Jordan was like, oh, there's
still time to get lunch. She's like, I already ate
out and uh and they kind of bully the towel bullshit, Right,
Maybe that's the thing she's like teaching. She's a teacher,
she's teaching the next generation of men. She's doing the

(43:23):
world of service.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
It's a charity. She's a five oh one C three technically.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Yeah, so she she shouldn't have to.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Pay Think outside the box.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Think outside the think inside the box.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Think outside.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
That's her. That's her Taco Bill fourth and so.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Damn it Bill, that one that was so much better.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
The principal and the wrestling coach tell them to go
to class winter break, like start.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Stop sucking your tea, get to class, because it turns.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Out start fucking me. The get to class. Winter break
doesn't start for another two hours. Cut to fucking what
the fuck she's teaching the last period before winter break,
and she's like, so Oscar Wilde finish the Picture of
Dorian Gray and also read a whole novel and do

(44:25):
a book report by the beginning of school next year. Goodbye.
There's no other prompts. We don't have the length of
the essay.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
There's no Well, I assume there was a paper handed
out with the specs.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Fuck it up. You do assume that. But here comes
my conspiracy theory, my timfoil hat conspiracy theory. Okay, do
you see what was written on the board? No? She
writes oscar wild on the board. And there's only one
other thing written on the board. Do you know what
it is? I did not see it. No. January sixth,
Oh shit, hold on, hold on, this might mean something,

(45:05):
This might be cause flag. But who plays the judge
in this episode?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Who is it? Who is it?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Jeanine Piro?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
Oh fuck, you're right, it is Jeanine Piro.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Oh my god, Mianuary sixth, Denier herself.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
That now that's something.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
It's a smoking bun.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
M it sure is. Speaking of the way they are
shooting this scene in the classroom.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
It's like the beginning of the hit Me Baby one
more time than.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
It's just like, all right, we start with a closeup
of her ass. Yeah, and hold all that shot for
a time.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Michael Bay direct just this scene of SVU is it's
actually funn if you say for the credits. Michael turns out,
and then she asks the other wrestle boy, Jordan, to
stay after it's winter break now because she needs help
getting a ream of paper. It's winter break now, a
ream of paper and.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
It's on the top shelf and I can't reach.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
It, and so they go into the Okay.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
But here's also the thing she says this in front
of the kid that she.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Also both they both know that they're fucking each other.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
They got to right, right, But I'm also thinking, Okay,
if you're a high school boy and you are banging
the hot teacher and then you find out your best
friend is also banging the hot teacher, I feel like
that's not gonna go right. Let's be real, sixteen to
seventeen year old boys.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Let's be real. You and me were in high school. Yeah,
we're both bagging the hot teacher, which we didn't have.
I was going to say zero hot teachers.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
It's like, who so the fictitious hot teacher ficticious?

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I feel like the the Eskimo Brothers would be I'm
not necessarily saying a feature, but it would definitely be
something that's worth the worth the price of admission. And
at least it's with your best friend.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
I mean it's if that, I feel like that would
be weird, like if it was like if it was
like concurrently.

Speaker 2 (47:12):
Yeah, because clearly she's like she's still dripping from the other.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Like she literally just fuck the other kid like an act.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
And how do you not ask like what like in
the aftergo You're.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
So exactly And that's what I'm saying, Like these I
feel like these two kids would be fucking They would
they would be like frenemies of the highest order.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
It would be a furpor violation for her to say,
how the other the other student.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
It's true, he's still doing it for college credit from box.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Incs think outside the button, fourth field, fourth field. So
she's like sticking her hand in ap stands for a
penis a penis, she's sticking the credits Coresy, She's just

(48:05):
showing the credits.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
I understand. But the way you said a p hey, oh, I.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Got you, hey Venus, well, I guess Principal bird Seed
is also a little bit of that kind of guy.
I love this. I have plenty of questions about Principal bird,
I have none.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
I get that, guys, I understand him. As soon as
you open the door.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
I was like, oh, I opened the door where I
got Santa hat and and uh.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Like an open top. And then the girl shows up
with the just an.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Open recognize you cops.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
It's like, oh, yeah, I know you. I'm like, oh, guys, oh.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
God, she's so uh they're they're making out, the teacher
and Jordan's Phoebe and Jordan are making out in the
supply closet. She sticks her hand down his pants. He's like, whoa,
we're moving too fast? All right, okay, whatever guys, and uh,
where did she think was going? Just any curiosity, Let's

(49:02):
see what we could do to get your average up. Meanwhile,
we go to Zach's apartment or whatever, and the.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
He's packing a bag.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yeah, he's packing a go bag. Presumably. The teacher texts
him like a picture of her boobs and a bra
and with underneath with a PDF that says here's your
ticket to hell.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
He then gets a phone call from his dad.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
And it's like and picks up mom. So Mom's so mad.
Don't whatever you do, don't answer the phone.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Yeah, so whatever she calls you a bunch ignore that,
because she just is really pissed off at you and
wants to yell at you. So uh, the many many
phone calls you're about to get trantically but he's packing
this go bag.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
And this is the point at which I think that
she's got a brain zoomer, because I'm like, she's fucking
a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Yeah, I was like, I again, was very confused, like
she's going for the third guy, the third kid, by
the way, the dweeby looking kid. In a callback to
last week, he is in The Fear Street nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Oh cool. Ted Sutherland is his name, and he plays
Zach Foster.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
I mean, I think he does a pretty decent job
in this, and he's good in the Fear Street.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
He's good.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
I'm a fan.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Weirdly, Weirdly, he looks like one of my former students.
I can see that that high fucked.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
But I okay, learned all sorts of things tonight.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
No, but I just whispered Zach zach Zech. His name's Thomas.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Real weird, did you know? Like I have to comment
on the use of the axe body spray, highlighting how
childish this kid is supposed.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
To be ladies love acts. What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
It's true. I especially in high school, I remember the
smell of axe bodies brain. It's ermating.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
It was like gasoline, really was it?

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Really? It's like that fucking joke of Agrobad with sex Pather.
It's like, I'm not gonna lie you. That smells like
pure gasoline, like that was. And it didn't matter one
variety either. They all kind of smelled the same bad.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
I think I kind of get why axe is so pungent,
And it's because teen boy bo is is ripe. You
can't stop making get sharp to cover up that.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
Yeah, you can't stop it. You can only hope to
contain it. Really, so it's like, all right, well, if
we make it so you you lose your sense of
smell from the burning of.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
The X bodies of the cauterize your not it's.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Better than smelling something bad.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
So the text tells him to go to the on
the Long Island Railroad. Goes on the Long Island Railroad
and he like waits at the street corner where she
says to meet him, and like everyone is just walking
into him, like yeah, and he's not there.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Well, he looks at his phone and it shows that
it's like eight o'clock, and then he looks at us,
you know, we get a cutaway and people are running
into him, and then he looks at his phone again
and it's.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
It's ten thirty. He's been waiting for two and a
half hours, and then a.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Cop just walks up to him and starts arresting it,
being like the fuck are you doing here, kid? And
he's like waiting for a friend and she's like, kids
buy drugs here. It's like just that was the end
of the stay.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Was like, okay, that reminds me of the interaction that
I had with a cop in my neighborhood. So I was.
I was in college and in like the cult, the
fucking development that I had lived in my parents lived
in since I was three, and I was like with
a girl sitting like in a field, and a cop

(52:43):
showed up and was like, this field closes at ten
and I was like, no, it doesn't. And he's like, well,
there are kids that buy drugs here and I was like, no,
they don't. He's like, well, it's a new ordinance and
I was like no, it isn't. And then he turned
to the girl I was with and is like, are
you here of your own free will? And she looked
at me like she had the opportunity to do the

(53:04):
funniest thing possible.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I could destroy your life.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, truly, Yeah, I hold.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Your life in the palm of my hands like a
baby bird.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
You snap my babybird neck did not work out with her, and.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
So the rest of the interaction workout.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
Then she she did say that she was there of
her own free will, and then he, uh, he.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Left the fuck are you doing that for?

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Bro? Like but just harassing kit harassing twenty year olds,
I guess. So we go to SVU and Mike Dodds
is doing performance reviews and Olivey is like why. He's like,
because it's my job. What the what do you mean? Why?

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Because you've been derelict in your duty? So now I
got a fucking.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
For seventeen years.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
And he's like, all right, well, you know we're kind
of fucked here because you know, we got rollins out
on maternity leave Carese's shadowing Barbara Moore over I guess
the past six weeks that we've had and.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Right, and and and Olivia's like, well, he's learning the law,
he's becoming a better cop. Uh, is that what you
think of how that works? It's also bad that the
cops don't learn the law. Like the fact that the
other cops don't know the law is bad.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
Because here's the thing, Carisey's like, because if you're going
to break the law, you need to know the law first.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
I was expecting them to give that Ryan Gossling guy
a badge at the end of it.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
And we've never seen such a strong recruitment video in
all of the years of NYPD.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
You're over, overachiever, And he says Finn is being lazy.
Every time he picks up the phone, he passes the
case off to somebody else. Has nothing to do with
his race.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
He calls him a kicker. He calls him a kicker.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
Of that that c k sound doing a lot of work,
a lot of.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Work kick err not kick a kicker.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Hard r kicker.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Just just put it out there. It's interesting and lives
like he absolutely is not. And then Q Finn coming
in the door and being like, hey, can.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
I uh can I can I kick out?

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Gotta kick some some stuff and it lives like, what's up?

Speaker 2 (55:19):
My kick is?

Speaker 1 (55:20):
Meanwhile, he says the reason He's like, I'm I am
going to hand this off to someone else.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
I have a ton of open because I've been putting in.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
Way too much overtime. Meanwhile, dodd says letters just spoken
to Live about how they're using too much overtime.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
And he's like, whatever else do you have more overtime?
I'll approve it. Well, they don't have any other detectives.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
But if if it's supposed to be that Finn is
being so lazy but he's got so much fucking overtime,
maybe it's like, yeah, he has to do that, you
know why, because you guys don't have enough staff. Someone
else should be doing this. This is a normal thing.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
But Dodds knows a kicker when he sees one.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
It just seems odd that the one black detect that
they have, it sure does the one that gets the
he's lazy, lazy, a lay about for having so much
overtime and also being cost conscious to the organization, being like,
it's too much fucking overtime. We can't afford to pay
this out.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I would love to see Mike Dodds's like heel turn
be that he's a ak came. He's like the Grand
Wizard of the New York KK, like.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
The fucking was that that ice guy or fucking like
a da or something like that, all the ice guys.
It was determined that he was a white supremacist, and
it was like, oh great.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
So crazy how that happened? And so they they get
the they get this call and they don't allow Finn
to kick it. Can I kick it? Yes? Can I
kick you? And so it's the it's the call that
that trap that Zach Foster the stweety guys, this kid
is missing, and so they go up to talk to

(56:56):
his mom. The his mom's like his duffel bag and
toothbrush are gone, and they're like when did you last
see him? And she's like, why are you bombarding me
with questions? Why can't you look at the morgues in
the hospitals. Yeah, you're just like my ex husband, he says,
I overreact to things.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
And then cue the ex husband who walks in the
door and his pilot's uniform and it's like, of course,
like you do, of course this guy because she's like, oh,
he's got so many new girlfriends and he walks in
as a pilot and I'm like, oh, oh, that tracks.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, this makes all.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Sense of the world.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
He's a handsome pilot guy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Uh. And so he's like, yeah, I've been I called him,
it's going to fucking voicemail, and you know, I can't
track him even.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
It's like I can track him because we share an
Apple ID, but his phone is either dead or off right.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
And so they're like, wait, but that means you can
check all of his messages. And I'm like, I don't
think that's how that works.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
He's like, oh, yeah, I can't check it is. It
is how it works if you share an Apple ID,
not if you share your location.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Oh if you shure, okay, how that's what. But they
wouldn't let them have the same id.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
They might be able to do it like a family, like.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
A family thing, right, Like, so if he because it's
twenty fifteen, so if he got a phone when he
was like ten, he probably just like has his dad's
old phone or something with the dad.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Maybe sure, let's go with that.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I know that's not that much.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Of a lot, but I here's the thing where it's
like they must put this stuff on the screens after
because whatever he pulls it up, it pulls up.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Oh yeah, horrible pick.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
And then he starts scrolling, and it's like, if I'm
the dad and the first thing I see is the
fucking tidpick, I'd be like, well, my son.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Well.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Probably figured out what's happening here, as.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Uh yeah, yea, yeah, I noticed that Rockets.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Set tits on his phone. But he's like, well, I
got to get to the top to get to context
where there are more pictures, and he doesn't stop at
any points.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
Were like, so I actually, I actually have a fun
inside info about this. So they did for a what
for the longest time just comp in the screens, right
and very clearly in this what especially when you see
Zack's phone earlier screen is like definitely just green. And
they comp in the the whatever is supposed to be honest, sure,

(59:09):
and and that always looks fake. Even the best of
them looks fake. So what they're doing now is they're
creating specific program sequences where you open it up and
you have someone program a sequence that's like, okay, no
matter what key you hit, it types. John Doe has

(59:32):
the upper hand right and sends the text so the
actors can like just bump up, up, up up, and
like doesn't matter what keys they hit, but it it
does the thing that it's supposed to do and send
the thing. So it's like an interactive video. And my
friend makes those. Oh, my friend Carter Tanton, who I
met at the dog park, is the guy that makes

(59:53):
them for shows like SVU.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Oh that's really cool.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
Yeah, yeah, so he was. It's like, it's like weirdly
like interactive interactive graphic design that he does.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Wow, I imagine that's probably gonna pay.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Okay too, it does pay. Okay. He only has to
do like one job every couple of months and he's great.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Wow, okay, a little peek behind the curtain. Always fun
to see him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Pretty cool. But they only started doing that within the
last i want to say, like five years. So this
is just a screen comp here which always looks like shit,
it's bad. Every single it's bad. It's very bad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
But basically that's they discover. It's like, oh, well, he's
been texting with the girl and Fan's like, yeah, that's
an adult woman, man, and he's like whatever, he's fucking adults.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Those are a woman's titties. If I know one thing,
Those aren't the titties of a fifteen year old girl.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
And again the dad's reaction is like great, so he's
right on, fucking some girl. What are we doing here?
What's the what's I'm saying, what's the problem?

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
And again like again, the mom's like some woman took
my son.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
And the dad's like score. And the cops are like, dude,
come on, man, don't don't fucking don't be like this.
Don't do this right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
So the text said to bring his passport, which he did,
but they check all the airports. He never made it
to the airport, and so they dragged the phone and
there's just like it's just overloaded with titties.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
So so many and uh. They find they find the
security footage of him getting off the train, but.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
They at the yeah, at the Long Island Roverroad, right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
But it's basically just the platform, so they didn't catch him.
Whenever he was out on the street or whatever, the
car pulled up to pick him up, so they don't.
He's completely in the wind at this point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
So they're like, okay, let's find someone at the school.
They like assume that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Oh no, me just say something about like, oh, ask
u the other whatever, the other two.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Oh yeah, Jordan and Travis about the extra credit that
you're going to get, and so they're like, oh, we
think it's a a teacher at their school because Jordan
and Travis are are students, and so they go to
talk to the principal. Principal Bernstein. Guy named Bernstein definitely
does not have a Santa on his lawn. Well it
isn't inflated. Well there you go. It's it's it's a warning.

(01:02:18):
Let this serve as a warning.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
I was just gonna say. He probably put it out
for the sex worker that he's with. So it's like, yeah,
it's the one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
With oh yeah, the one with the big Santa. That's
the house Santa. Ney's your help getting full getting engorged.
By the way. This episode was released on January sixth.
Oh man, it's all coming together, baby, Judge Janine, the Blackboard, pedophilia.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
This episode has everything. So he opens the door and
he's wearing a Santa hat and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Is like, uh, open robe. We must assume Donald ducking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
It have to assume. Because he comes to the door.
He's like, yeah, how much do I owe you? He's
not saying attention to like where are the cops. He's like,
oh no, if if the six worker comes around the corner.
He's like, hey, I know you guys, and he's like,
go go call the pizza place and see what the
fuck is it's taking so long on the pizza. Shut up,
just go away, and they don't say anything. It feels
like this would be a prime moment for them to

(01:03:16):
have some sort of a they try to put the screws.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
To this guy and and if if it was if
this were the wire, it would be like, oh, hey Tina,
and like they know her right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Specifically, and so they the cops are like, hey, uh,
we're looking for these two kids that are probably fucking
your one teacher.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
By the way, that the principal is not what you
would think of as like a kind of an old
stodgy principle. He is I have to stress probably around
our age now. Yeah, he kind of he's like in
his early forty.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
He looks like he could be like a cousin of
Frank Sabodka.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
He does the speaking of wire stuff. His name is
Jordan Gelber, Yes, yeah it is, and uh and he
was forty years old sorry, yeah, yeah, forty years old
when this episode came out, so basically exactly my age.

(01:04:10):
But you might recognize him from basically nothing, God friended
me the TV series something from twenty twenty called Avenue
Quarantine which makes me want to die.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Also one episode of Elementary Sorry, twenty five episodes of Elementary. Oh,
good for him, So you might recognize him from Elementary.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
But yeah, he basically is like, it's probably these two
go fucking bug them essentially, so they go and they.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Find oh, so weird. He's been on SVU. He was
a CSU technician in ten episodes. He sorry. In eight
episodes he played a CSU technician, including Dolls, which is
the one about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Collection with Burt Trevor and the Doll Collection.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Yes, and David Harber Ah, yes, but that's not the
one about the gymnasts no, with where Yeah, and Sonny
cares is in that one before he's Sonny Cresy. That's it?
So is he? He? No? The Kate I think the
Kate Marajuan is like really early on.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
Yeah, it's like the first couple of seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeah, but Caresy is like a janitor who attacks like
a gym coach, gymnastics coach for like touching a student,
and it turns out that he was touched when he
was younger, and they like go and find his coach,
like a very similar plot to this week's episode of SVU.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
I'm vaguely remembering.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Yes, yeah, he and we talked about it all that episode. Yeah, yeah,
we talked about him later that Hey comes back is crazy.
So it was in season fourteen and the uh the
episode is called Monster's Legacy and it's one of the
ones with Bayard Elis and yeah, his gymnastics coach was

(01:06:17):
like abusing him, got it? So only three seasons ago,
it feels.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
Like it feels like a decade.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Yeah, that's the one with ed Asner is. Ed Asner
is the coach and Mike Tyson is in it, right, Okay, Yes,
that's the Mike Tyson. Yeah yeah, yeah, Sorry, sorry for
me beating around the bush. It's the one with Mike
Tyson and the most interesting man in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Right That that pretty direct through line there, It's a yep, yeah,
I know which one you're talking about now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Man, that was only a year, that was only three
seasons ago. Shit, what a what a horrible world we wanted?

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
God, what a pathetic fucking existence we have.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
So they show the principle the these sects against that
text that the teacher sent, and he's like, I know
those titties, and and they say that they think Zach
Foster has been taken and that he's in danger, and
the prince was like in danger of getting late, and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
They're like, can you please get everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Please just fucking calm down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Yeah. So like, oh, he's like, it's probably missus like
burn burn burn burn burnap.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Burlap burn app. I heard burlap a lot, Yeah, Phoebe
Phoebe burn app. And he identifies Travis Barstow and Jordan Massines, like, oh,
it might be Travis Barstow and Jordan Mesina there. They're
on the wrestling team, and Zach is the the towel
boy as though you didn't yesterday. Just see the three
of them together and tell them to go to class.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Right. They all appear to be friends. It's not like
he's just at the very least, all of their lockers
appear to be right next to one another, so they
probably know each other some fashion.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
But he's, you know, he's he's not thinking about that
stuff right now. I'm thinking about get the cops out
of here before they realized I had a sex word.

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
No, I think they realized immediately, Sir, I just I
think they're.

Speaker 2 (01:08:13):
So they they talked to these students and and then
Travis Barstow's like in danger getting late.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Uh yeah, and they start dragging they're trying to find
the teacher. Now they drag her credit card.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
Yes, but the but the the Jordan and Travis say
that she would never go for Zach because she likes
guys with muscle. I'm sorry, Jordan and Travis, so that
they would never go for Zach. That's the thing that
I don't know if I said that properly. But Travis
and Jordan say that she would never go for Zack
because she likes to guy with muscle. And Jordan even
says that he didn't want to have sex with her,

(01:08:47):
but he had to to get his grade up. Why
do you think he aced his leaves of grass? Essay?

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Yeah. And it's interesting because we we find out later
who who has Zach and is also an abuser is
the coach. But he says like, oh, I had I
had to to pull my grades up otherwise I would
lose my spot on the team. So it's like, yes,
because the the.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Coach now they are definitely protecting Yeah, they're definitely protecting you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Well, the coach knows about her? Does she know about
the coach?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
I guess well, she hints pretty heavily. She's like, check
out that that wrestling coach. You know how they are?

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
He I mean, it just it feels like if it
if it was, well, she says, I know who set
me up because she knows that the one kid shared.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
The pictures with the coach.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Yeah, so I but I don't necessarily know if she
knows that the coach is abusing them, because it seems
weird that she wouldn't just give him up immediately in
their herself.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
Yeah, that's a that's a good point. But they they
pull her. They pull miss Burnap's Instagram and there are
incredibly green screen each photos. But uh, they're gonna they're
gonna try to like figure out who's in the photos
or whatever. And Dot Mike Dodds is like, I just
ran her credit card, you guys, like it's really it's

(01:10:12):
really weird that you are all cops.

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Yeah, and apparently it's somewhere. She's somewhere up in Vermont
at some fucking hotel. And when they get there, they
get word that she checked in was it like the
previous night or something like that with a young guy
with a young man And they're like, okay, here we go,
and the best line is from Gracy. It's like, hey,
here's the key. They asked us to spare the door.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Love that. So they they don't quite kick down the door,
but they open the door, same moaning as before from
the rav four and they they opened the bay window
to the to the bedroom and she is she's riding
another guy and she's like, this is my husband, and

(01:10:57):
they're like how old. She's like twenty one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Meanwhile he is handcuffed and blindfolded.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
Hell yeah, fuck yeah, get your get your wife, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
I wonder if they decided to get shotgun married, so
because he was like her first victim, and she's like,
canterrested a husband and wife for the same crime?

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
I mean maybe, I don't know. So they bring her in, uh,
they bring them both in, excuse me, and they're talking
to her and she's like, I would never have sex,
but I would never do anything that I'm accused of
with Zach specifically.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Yeah. Yeah, the other dudes, yeah, but Zach no, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Because they he'p just yelling at her like he's missing.
We know you have him, just tell us where the
fuck he's at. And she's like, I don't fucking know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
I don't have him.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
I have never done anything.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Wrong with my husband, who's twenty one. We've known each
other for years. He was my student.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
Yeah, oh boy, Yeah, cause he tells that to whoever
he I think it's uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Dogs, whoever, Yeah, whoever's interrogating him. And so it's at
this point that I think that the other two wrestling
dudes are catfishing Zach with pictures that she sent to
the wrestling dudes to like haze him because he wants
to be on the wrestling team. I think they're kind
of going that way. And I'm not like entirely wrong,

(01:12:15):
but I'm pretty wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
That would be interesting, That would be something.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah for an interesting episode. But the husband says she
wore me out because Phoebe is a fucking machine.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
So like, okay, and she asked for a lawyer. Her
lawyer comes in is like, what a what are you
charge of my client with? And uh, what's the name? Oh?
I wrote his name down. Robert Shawan Leonard, who.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Is the Kenneth O'Dwyer.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Yes, the DA in this episode is like we're charging
him with her rather with rape like rape three or
maybe even rape two or rape two and maybe rape one,
and like kidnapping and encouraging a child to have sex.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
And the lawyers basically like, have you seen Michaelient He's
you seen how fucking hot she is.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
He's basically like, good luck if you will.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Let's get a trial. Let's go to trial today right now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Client waves everything speedy, trial pulled up her fucking shut off.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Right now, And O'Dwyer knows that he's fucked and and
like they're so worried about missing track like Zach who
has gone missing. That is like she gets queen for
a day for her other crimes that we know she
definitely did. Just tell us where Zach is. And she's like,

(01:13:30):
I don't know, man, I've.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Been telling you I don't know, but I know who
does have him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
The wrestling coach. You hear a lot of rumors about
those guys.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
And that's where Robert charl Letter is like, what the
you So you've known this whole time and you didn't
tell us, like this kid is missing, we're telling you
how worried we are, and you didn't fucking tell us
and the attorney brother. It's just like, well, we shouldn't
waste any more time, then should we.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Yeah, get going. The other fun moment into this and
by thought i'd been absolutely horrifying is she explains why
she blew Jordan. She's like, well, Jordan was feeling a
little inadequate, and his grades were slipping, and he felt
kind of like he wasn't doing well on the wrestling team,

(01:14:16):
and I just just he just really needed to pick
me up.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Just need a little little encouragement, that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Yeah. So they they Jordan and uh and Travis. Eventually,
I think right around here, admit that they shared the
pictures that she sent them with the wrestling coach. Fucking
why because your your logical thing is like, how could

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two best friends fuck the same teacher? My my logical
thing is like, why share the pictures with your wrestling coach?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Well, I think it's it's on the same along the
same lines as what you were saying. Where So she
was like, oh, he thought he wasn't doing what he
thought he wasn't performing well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Yeah, right, so this this was the pick me up
that I got right, and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
So she says, I already knew that he went and
asked his coach about like the his perceived performance issues.
So it's like, I again don't know why you would
share the pictures, why you would go and talk to
your wrestling coach. But like, hey, coach, I'm fucking this
older lady and uh I think I'm not doing great.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, gid you do for me in

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this department.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
He's like, well, I'm a coach about about fucking women.
Turns out not the best person.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
As it turns out, coach was like, well I need
those pictures for proof. Yeah, proof, not not as alluring
device to get that young Zach in my clutches. Don't
worry about, don't ask questions.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
So they they find out that the coach lives in
a place called Floral Park. They go to his apartment
and there's just photos everywhere. Boys, boys, boys, but like
paparazzi photos of boys, like long lens in the woods,
photos of bulls.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
It's weird, and like pictures of boys wrestling, like yeah,
in a match.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Like you might take and not think is weird?

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
Right? If this is when you when you get the
outdoor shots is where it's like it's getting weird now.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Yeah, well, number of them and the haphazard way that
they're just pasted on the wall.

Speaker 1 (01:16:19):
It is a bit of like a zodiac basement. So
like that's also not great.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
There aren't a lot of basements. Not a lot of
people have basements in California. It's true that the movie
is so good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
That's scene specifically is so fucking good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
No, I'm a big Gill and Hall fan.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
I like Gill and Holl.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
I've never always does something interesting, right, I like, I've
never even b.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
I'm never gonna go He's not gonna get me to
a movie. He's certainly not gonna keep me away. But
like the stuff that I've seen him and a Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
I'm always glad he's in a movie. Let's put it down.

Speaker 1 (01:16:53):
I think he I think he definitely adds to whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
He's in' Oh man, what is prison I was gonna
say Passengers, which isn't that movie? Yeah, Prisoners he's great.
And Nightcrawler too, Oh man, he is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
He makes me so uncomfortable with that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
I was like chilling.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Yeah, not great, Bob.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
He's got like an interesting blinking thing that he can
turn on and off anyway. Uh. They take all this
like crazy amount of pictures over to Principal Birnstead, who
smartly meets them out on the front lawn and is like, well,
those are our uniforms. I don't remember any of the
students because I've only been there for a couple of years,

(01:17:38):
but maybe ask the other wrestlers. So they ask, uh,
the other wrestlers, Travis and Jordan, and they're like, oh, yeah,
we know all these people. And you know, coaches are
a wrestling junkie. He's got scouting tapes. He's he's always
taking our picture and our measurements and smelling us and
taking our bathwater and turning it into sew blowing us.

(01:18:01):
Uh well yeah, you know like you do. And they
he's like, oh, one of these kids, his name is
Enrique Familia andahold.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
On guys if I ever heard one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
And he's gone because he went back to Colombia, went
back to Colombia, and this other kid rammed his got drunk,
rammed his car into a tree last Christmas himself.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
So it's like, was it supposed to be that it
was a suicide?

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
Seems like or like he up and killed himself accidentally.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Well, I mean it kind of makes if he's supposed
to be a victim. We could have looked, you know,
we could have fed into that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
They didn't really, yeah, go that route. I don't know.
And they talked to the parents, but they don't really
say why. They're like, tell me some some info about
this coach. And the mom's like, can't this coach help
you look for the person that he kidnapped And they're
like no, because we think that he's the one that
kidnapped him. And the mom's like, that's why he took

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an interest in him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yes, indeed, And then she immediately turns to that it's like,
you wanted him to play sports.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
You wanted to play sports, like I didn't. I didn't
know this was gonna happen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Yes, to play sports, not to get fucked by the
wrestling coach. There's are two very different things.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
But they recognize one of the wrestlers in the photos
as Nat Phelps, whose younger sister used to babysit that
that him that And so they talked to Nat Phelps
and he's like, he has a job just like moving bags,
moving heavy bags. Yeah, I really from from one thing
to another, very.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Curious, like it's an interesting piece of business. But like
when you look at he's in like a boiler room
or something like, like what exactly I thought?

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
He looked like he was in like a loading doc
to me, but I want to subterranean to me, it's
not not wrong, and so he uh, He's like, you know,
I can't tell you anything. All I know is that
coach used to have this cabin in Pennsylvania where he

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took us for like camps, like wrestling camps, and he
would go to this old fashioned general store where he'd
buy us chocolate, pretzels and condoms and alcohol and lube,
and there was a Viking sculpture outfronts.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
He's like, I never saw it, but that's what he
said that there was. But I do what is actually
point out in this scene, So Dodds doesn't. When they're
interviewing him, they do a good job of being like,
all right, we know what happened with this kid, and
he's very clearly not he doesn't want to talk about it,
and he's not gonna wake.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
No, no, we're not going to make you say it
out loud.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
But they literally are just like, well, you know, if
you could tell us. They say something to the effect
of like, well, we don't we don't know where Zach is,
or we think he took Zach somewhere and we don't
think Zach wants to be there. So it's a it's
a good way of being like, I know that, you
know that, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Yeah, yeah, I don't mind Dodd's no. I think it works.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Actually, I think it's him trying to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Delicately yeah, which is meanwhile, coreesy, you'd be like, yeah,
so where'd you get fucked?

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
I know, rapist?

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Right, So this guy gets it so that I'm wondering
if the comment about Pennsylvania is a reference to the
DuPont case, like the Fox Catcher thing, maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:21:34):
Could be Well, year did Fox Catcher come out?

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
The movie came out around this time, but the case was, uh, nineties,
wasn't it was the nineties? Yeah, so Fox Catcher came
out in twenty fourteen. This episode aired in twenty sixteen,
so it's not too far away. But there is like
kind of a non ripped from the headlines, which I
think is mostly about Larry Nasser. Okay, because at that

(01:22:01):
broke around this time too. But the wrestling coach thing
in Pennsylvania, I'm like wondering if there's like a little
bit of penn State in there, a little bit of
Fox Catcher in there, it wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:12):
Yeah, wrestling is it is a very specific sport, Like
you know, it's not like your normal right basketball, football,
Baseball the Big or hockey the Big Four.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
And I and I I did a quick Google against
my better judgment of wrestling coach rapist, and yeah, nothing
immediately popped up that that made it seem like it
was this specific episode. But our listeners are really good
at like, oh, this is based on this, So I

(01:22:44):
have a feeling it's like a combination of like Larry
Nasser and like who's the Joe Paterno, it wasn't Joe
Paturner doing the raping.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Oh christ, why can't I fucking think of this Sandusky
Gary Sandusky.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Yeah, Gary Sandusky, which was way earlier than this. Yeah,
I was still in d Yeah, it was like whatever
that happened, Yeah, two thousand and nine or something. So
they go to they go to this, they find the
general start with the Viking sculpture and.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
They're talking to like the one clerk that it looks
like it's it's it's on the verge of like Crystal Lake,
this general.

Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Sty it does. It also looks a little bit like
the rights Town Country Kitchen that we used to go
to to get breakfas, which which sadly closed permanently.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
I can't imagine why it never. It always seemed like
it was barely hanging on, just.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
A dust debou dago with good breakfast sandwiches. Yeah, And
so the clerk is like, uh, they're They're like, oh,
we're trying to get this kid's parents is trying to
get contact with him. We think he's with coach, but
like he doesn't have service. And she's like yeah, it's
like really tough to get service around here. One bar
and a good day. Increase's like so annoying, Right, listen,
where the fuck is this guy?

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
And is he in the same fucking car. She's like, yeah,
go check the reservoir, Like thank you. They say, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Where he hides his body.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
He goes fishing at the reservoirs, So he must have
a house rather nearby. I don't know why they don't
just like check the real estate records.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Very very simple solution to.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
It could have saved you a whole trip, you know,
well not.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
A whole trip, but a trip to the store right.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
To get information you could have very easily gotten by
doing your job. Question mark.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
No, they don't know. Thank you, no, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
For this is why they have so much fucking overtime.

Speaker 2 (01:24:24):
Yeah, because they because they fucking go around.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
This is like the cop version of the meeting that
could have been an email.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
For sure, And so they speaking of like the cop
version of the meeting that could have been an email.
They don't have a war and so they have to
get him to step outside the house. So they get
a local state trooper under the cover of darkness to
knock on the door and be like, hey, coach, there's
a power outage and we want to make sure you're
a lot your power lines aren't exposed. He's like, they're

(01:24:52):
out here, they're out there, go check them. And he's like,
can you come check with me. In the second he
steps out of his front door, Olivia just like jumps
out of the dark. Where the fuck was she?

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
Iying just on the other side of the of the door, Roome.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
And arrests it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Yeah, they're like, where's the kid. He's like, the fuck
is happening. They're like, just take him to the fucking car.
And they find Zach in a back bedroom. Uh it
is it just just on a bed, passed out. He's breathing.
We take him to the hospital and find out that
he has a bunch of booze and hypnol in his system.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Olivia whispers zach zack Zack, Zach zach.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Zack zack zack sack and then throws a blanket over him.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
So it's not weird. Yeah, And so that the they
interrogate the coach, whose name is just coach. It's a
Bazenski coach Bozenski.

Speaker 1 (01:25:46):
Oh, they have to extradite him too, because he's in Pennsylvania.
So they're like, ah, he's with the troopers, fucking extradite
him to New York.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
But when they interviewed him, he's like, how's Zach doing.
He's having a tough Christmas?

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Oh, he's sure he was, He's was.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
I saw him walking down the fucking Long Island railroad
tracks and if I hadn't stumbled upon him, who knows
what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
A hot teacher may have come and picked him up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
Maybe, Yeah, and when he's like, wait, you expect me
to believe that I raped this kid? I taught him
how to wrestle. This guy knows what I'm talking about
and points it out. He's like, you played football, right,
sexy sexy football.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
And Finn's like, wow, I just can't I the racism
of this episode is just truly stunning.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Meanwhile, Zach does not want a rape kit, but he
says that he was walking down the street Coach found him.
He said he just happened to be driving by. He
said he would drive him home. He actually drove him
to his own house, gave him a couple of beers.
He passed out, and then he woke up in a
car on the way to Pennsylvania, passed out again. And

(01:26:50):
then he woke up and Coach was in bed with
him and his mouth was on him. But don't worry,
he's not gay. He didn't like it. He watches okay,
normal porn with girls.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
I this is the part where in my notes I
was like, it's actually a good performance from the I think.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
It sounds ridiculous. It's a little silly, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
Right, but if you put he's supposed to be like
a fifteen year old kid who right, like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
And what I have noticed about kids now is that
they're just like, yeah, we're gay.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
It's fine, right, I mean I get that, But I
think it's also you know, he's the way his character
at is my interpretation of it's like, you know, he's
friends with or acquaintances with, or wants to be.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Like and definitely like looks up to yeah, the rest the.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Wrestling guys who are currently fucking the hot female teacher.
And it's like, and now I'm I got a fuck,
I got fucked my coach, Like this is this is
not no, I know I was lord there by the
by the the female teacher's titties. Please believe me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
You must believe me. There were titties and right, And
it's so.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
I mean, again, we're making light of something that is horrifying.
But I think the the actor does a very good
job of.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Playing yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
I think because Caresian Live are trying to be like
they're doing a it's it's not your fault thing, and it's.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
And and there's kind of an implication that Olivia makes
a little bit more explicit where I think that the
real crisis that this kid is having is that he
had like an erection, and Olivia is like, your body
had a reaction, you were drugged. It's not your fault.
It doesn't mean anything. And like, ultimately, I think the
scene is a pretty effective one, right because unlike the

(01:28:38):
next right because.

Speaker 1 (01:28:39):
Even caresy to give him a little bit of props
because he's, you know, the lovable move, but he he also.

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Does he's like, what do you gay?

Speaker 1 (01:28:46):
No, he says yes, that's exactly what he says. No,
he does have a nice boat where he's telling the kid.
He's like, hey man, and he says like, hey man, whatever,
whatever happened, whatever he did, that's on him. That is
not on you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
Yeah, did nothing to deserve it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
Right, So he's he's like again encouraging, He's like, that
was a physical reaction thing and what you didn't want
what happened to happen, that's on to him. Like so
again they're both trying to reach the kid. Then he's
just like I want to go fucking home. Please leave
me alone. They're like, no, I've hear enough. That's enough
for today.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
So they iraan coach Bozenski and the judge, for some
absolutely unbelievable reason, is Janine Pierro.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Actual, honest to god, Janine fucking Piero.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Janine asked Pierre, so I have to imagine that most
of our listeners Monster.

Speaker 1 (01:29:38):
And Courage temporary or in a room US attorney for DC.

Speaker 2 (01:29:44):
For the state District District of Columbia. So for those
of you who might not know what Janine Pierro's deal is,
she used to be the District Attorney of Westchester County
in New York and then she became like a A yeah,

(01:30:04):
right for Fox and and specifically like Nancy Grace is
the exact thing. But it was actually before it was Fox.
It was on the Cub, which is really fucking weird. Yeah,
but she she did like a Judge Judy type show
on the Cub. It was like a daytime show. Or
maybe it's more of like a talk show than a
Judge Judy show. It's tough to tough to say because

(01:30:28):
it just says she would. She hosted a weekly television
show to be named Judge Jeanine Piro, part of the
daytime lineup, two episodes, Judging Daily. It only ran for
one season.

Speaker 1 (01:30:42):
And then she jump shipped Fox.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
She jumped shipped to Fox in twenty eleven, and the
show was Justice with Judge Jeans Judge Jean Jeine, and
that was more of a Nancy Grace slash like Jim
Kramer type show with but with law instead of the economy, right.

Speaker 1 (01:31:03):
Like a real like a like a Curtison.

Speaker 2 (01:31:05):
Kubi Yeah, right, right right. Another extremely pression.

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
Everyone remembers the show Curtis and Koubi.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Yeah, which I watched with you, I know it was,
and one of them was wearing the like Angel beret. Yeah.
But twenty fourteen. In twenty fourteen, which is two years
before this episode comes out, Pierro claimed that Isis leader
Abu Bakir al Baghdati was released by Obama in two
thousand and nine, when in reality, he was released in

(01:31:39):
two thousand and four under President Bush. So she was
already very much This is twenty sixteen, so she's already
very much into these anti Democrat conspiracy theories. And she
was one of the first people to support Donald Trump
in the twenty sixteen presidential race. I have to imagine

(01:32:00):
maybe just after this, and she like stood by him
after the Access Hollywood tape, saying quote, I have been
involved in a million situations with him, and his children,
and he's always been a gentleman. Oh boy ai ya
ya ya yaie.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Harvey Weinstein was always nice to me.

Speaker 2 (01:32:19):
Yeah, right, And so she's continued to become more of
a crank. In twenty seventeen, she called for the arrest
of anyone who cooperated with Robert Muller's investigation into the
Russian interference of the twenty sixteen election. She called for
government agency He's to be cleansed of critics of the president.

(01:32:41):
She called deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and Pierce Strozak Strazak.
She called for them to be arrested and appeared to
suggest that Mueller, James Comy, and the Deputy Attorney General
be arrested as well. So she's like gone, she went
full fascist pretty quick, like one of the first people.

(01:33:05):
And so obviously fuck that lady. Trump Trump loves her.
And so now she's the acting United States Attorney for
the District of Columbia.

Speaker 1 (01:33:15):
Yikes. Yeah, but she's playing the judge of this week's
episode because this is heird the bad place, can you dick?

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
She In twenty fourteen, she called for Barack Obama's impeachment
over the twenty twelve Benghazi attacks, remember that, Yeah, such
a so so weird, Like this would be like casually
having Joseph Goebbels on your TV program, Like Okay, he's

(01:33:43):
not Hitler, but like why in the orbit?

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
And he's also bad, Like it's.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
It's also Joseph Goebel Like what Oh, she's also like
if you have never seen her speak, she's like transparently
drunk all the time. Yeah, she's just absolutely well.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Any fans of s n L. Whenever Cicily Strong did
her kind of like sign off on Weekend Update, that's
who she was impersonating as she was just drinking that
wine and getting into the gigantic glass of wine, singing
my way the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
Bigger and bigger glasses of well yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
So unsurprisingly not a good actor, and uh seems a
little drunk. She's a little slurry. There's nothing about a
stroke on her Wikipedia, so I have to assume it's
the alcohol blaming on the alcohol. So they we meet
in judge of Spotify. Now with that, great, she's gonna

(01:34:38):
send the fucking Gestopo to my house.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Flu, here's the thing, you've got the Gestapo company yours.
I've got the Swifties coming to mind, so we'll both.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Be ye morning, You're you're gonna get it first. So
I I want it on record that I love Taylor
Swift and for any of her Swifties to please help
me from getting abducted.

Speaker 1 (01:34:56):
By help a Swiftiest the only ones I would just
like it noted that I'm a fan of the music.

Speaker 2 (01:35:04):
Yeah, yeah, I think the music is fine. I'm actually
not the biggest fan of the music. I think it's
like okay, but I think, you know, get please help me.
You're my only hope.

Speaker 1 (01:35:14):
I just look, you could. You could be a bad
person and create good art, totally be a successful business person.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
I also think on the scale of bad people, she's
relatively low, considering we're talking about Judge Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
Bureau Goibles is literally in the conversation right now now,
I'm just saying, you know, in the same way that
fuck all the billionaires and all of the things.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
Yeah, to includes Taylor Swift for sure. So uh, they
meet in O'Dwyer's office because Olivia cannot convince Zach's parents
to allow Zach or for Zach to testify. And I
am so distracted because O'Dwyer's aid is a literal child

(01:36:00):
is like a maybe twelve year old man, twelve year
old boy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't baying it. I was
totally just into the scene, not paying attention to the assistant.
Is that really that I didn't I didn't catch it?

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Yeah, I don't. I don't. You gotta go back, you
gotta go back just for that one scene. It's it's crazy.
It's crazier than Judge Jinny and Piro being It's it's
slowly turning into freaks like the movie Freaks. So you
meets Nightmare Alley the parents, I like that Mary all.
So the parents want to want a Dwyer to like

(01:36:39):
cut them a deal, which is just like, listen the
other the other hot wrestling kids, it's gonna come out
that they fucked ate the hot lady teacher. And like
our kid, he doesn't have a lot of friends. He's
got saddled with rape by the male teacher. Can you
just like you just like let it be known that

(01:37:00):
he fucked the lady teacher, not the male teacher.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
About this ars like, what think about this from the
female teacher's perspective? One do you continue to fuck the students.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
No, I mean no, she I hope is fired.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
I you know the fact that the principal was never
like what what what what do you mean? Two of
my teachers are fucking my students. This is a disaster.
He's just like, yeah, yeah, I got the sex worker inside,
and you know the clock is running.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
He's running. He's basically the Kragan of that school. He's
fucking a sex worker. Two of his teachers are transparently
corruct I.

Speaker 1 (01:37:36):
Just said, like one line of dialogue, she seems like
she really can't be bothered with it because it's Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
Well she's fired, right, Like I.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
I there's not that, So I think she might be
still fucking these students.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
Well you know, she run on the board, she's threatened
to January sixth, so all you have to do there
you go.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
So okay. So I'm just thinking from her perspective, like
at the school, because if she got quote for a day,
so she got nothing at the school, being like you know,
when the rumor reel starts up where it's like, oh, yes,
she fucked Zach. I mean you two, you can't defend
yourself being like I will have you all.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Know, hey, guys, I fucked Travis and Jordan, but I
didn't funk.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
So you just got to sit there and take that.
And it's like, oh that's not.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Alo, what a what a fucking dig on Zach? That
is It's like, oh, I'll fuck these two but not Zach.
Like your teacher is also dunking on you right asking
you out on a dare.

Speaker 1 (01:38:29):
I'm just saying it's terrible anyway. Yeah. Then the dad's like,
we don't want everyone to know that the the wrestling
coach was giving it to our son. I'm like, dad's
a really bad Like come on, man, that's your son.
There's a little decorum here, like do you care about
your son at all that you're like, yeah, hey son,

(01:38:51):
we're fucking kidnapped and ranked that guy really was giving
you the business, wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
Giving giving giving you the business?

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
Like what you're terrible?

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
O'Dwyer's basically like profiles and courage like this is this
is no one said it would be easy, and they're like,
get fucked. And then he tells Olivia. Oliviy's like I tried,
and he's like if it were my son, I don't
know what I would do. What do you mean you
don't know what you would do?

Speaker 1 (01:39:19):
Like you you would force him to testify.

Speaker 2 (01:39:23):
I would at least encourage him to testify.

Speaker 1 (01:39:25):
Right, I agree, But like if he doesn't want to
do it, would you force your child to testify?

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
No? No, I mean you can't force anyone to testify.
It's it's coercion. Well, I mean, it's when we learned
that last week he contempt.

Speaker 1 (01:39:39):
I mean he could be held in contempt for defying
a subpoena.

Speaker 2 (01:39:42):
I suppose so, But like, hasn't this kid been through enough?

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
I mean apparently not.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
I don't know. We're about to find out. So this
winds up being the same legal wrinkle as the last
week's episode. And the only the only thing, the only
reason I bring this up is like they have an
entirely different tactic, which is that they're trying to get
a bunch of other people to come forward so enough
that Coach Pasinski will take a plea so that no

(01:40:09):
one has to testify. And I'm like, where was that
tactic last week?

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
They just discovered it this week. As it turns out, of.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Me, Crisey's like cracking a law book. Some obscure law
means sets the right.

Speaker 1 (01:40:19):
So they've got the big board in the squadron where
they're like, all right, they're going through all of the
pictures that they found in his basement. They're like, all right,
this kid he went back to Columbia as we found out.
We've got the other kid. He's dead. We know about
that from their.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Previous everyone's a no NAT's and no dead kids are no,
and three of them don't want their spouses or families
to find out. And Finns like, you know, boys will
never talk about being raped, and I'm like, yeah, they should.
That's also that's also part of toxic masculinity. Please please
don't do that. Men are victims of this as well.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
That also happens to women too, you know, as talked
about on this show frequently.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
Nah not today though, right, that doesn't count. There were
no regular rapes in New York too.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Right, this is this is all we got. So they're like,
all right, well back to Nat. I guess that's well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
Nat comes, Nat comes walking in.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
He's like to talk to him one more time.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
They go to talk to him and he says.

Speaker 1 (01:41:17):
No, Yes, they go to talk to him and they say, like,
we need.

Speaker 2 (01:41:19):
But that's that's before they run down everybody. Oh I thought,
yeah yeah, because that they go to him first. He's like,
how many do you have? And they're like, well, we'll
see you later.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
They lay out the whole strategy. It's like, so what
we're trying to do here?

Speaker 2 (01:41:35):
But then Nat walks into the police station and they're like, oh,
have you decided to testify? He's like, I'll do you
one better.

Speaker 1 (01:41:40):
I have something even better to show you. He can
find stuff film.

Speaker 2 (01:41:43):
They're like, oh great, and they're like he's like, I
have it all on my phone. And then and then
Olivia is just watching this in all the whole.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Squad and she pauses it several minutes into this and
it's like, and you say, he confessed of his own
free will?

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
Oh yeah yeah. Nat is there watching it too, like
a dog with a dead bird in his.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Mouth, and literally Live is like, so this is of
the And it sounds like she's asking genuinely. She's like,
so at some point in time, because he's very clearly
his hands are bound and you're stabbing him.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
You got this confession? He uh, he did this of
his own free will? And and Nat says, I encouraged him.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
Right, but after seeing clearly what is happening.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
He's beating the fuck out of him, and I'm I'm thinking,
you know, I'm no lawyer. I do not think this
is gonna hold.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
No, I don't. And and the fact that you guys
are just sitting here watching it, it's like, so you're
watching what.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
I'm wondering, guys. I mean, Olivia should be pressing like
the silent alarum under the table, being like, get someone
in here to her rest this guy.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Well, just the guys that he gets him to confess,
or the boys that he gets him to confess to
having raped. Those are if they've already talked to those
guys and they'd said like, no, we're not going to testify, right,
were supposed to assume that.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
But except for Enrique Familia and the kid that died, yeah,
they talked to everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Just at the end, Natt is like, so those are
your four people that you can go for and get
them to test.

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Yeah, yeah, for for this four more plus B And
then he very clearly like stabs the dude. Yes, and
they're they like, they dispatch a squad car to this
dude's house, to his house, and it's a little unclear
to me whether they're going to arrest him for confessing

(01:43:35):
or checking if he's alive. It turns out they're checking
if he's alive and he is not for long.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
Right, because they I think there's a line where it's like, oh,
we're gonna need that bus after all. It's like, what
are you trying to go here to do? I don't
really understand.

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
It, great question, and Cariesy's like, just hang on, just
hang on. I'm like, I get it, Like you don't
want this guy to die because then like case goes away.
But like if if a if a child rapist got
stabbed and I was there, like waiting for the ambulance,
I wouldn't like encourage him. I wouldn't be like, you

(01:44:11):
got it, buddy. I mean, you'll be back to raping
kids in no time. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
It's it's well, I think here's what it is. Because
whenever they come back, they say out loud to Robert Chong, oh, well,
first we they go in, they're like, hey, you're now
under arrest because he died on the way to the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
And he's like yeah. I figured He's like, oh, did
he did to death? I think, yeah, right right, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
It's probably a lot of pain. Good like he says
it just kind of so casually.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
I really like this guy's performance.

Speaker 1 (01:44:46):
Yeah, And he's like, oh, so you need me to
give a statement now, and LIB says like, no, no, now,
we have to read you your rights again. Why did
you read them to him the first time? He wasn't
under arrest. He showed up and and had you. I mean,
I guess he was in the interrogation room for the
beating the shit out of the guy in his house
before he died.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Maybe I guess, Oh, man, do you want to hear
something crazy?

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (01:45:13):
So this guy Nat is played by an actor named
Noah Flice, and when I saw his name in the credits,
I was like, that sounds familiar. Turns out he is
in literally one of my all time favorite movies, Brick.
He plays a character named Tug who is really really
like one of the three leads of this movie that

(01:45:35):
I've seen maybe twenty times. And the reason I didn't
recognize him is because well, he's like ten years younger,
but also he wears a hat for the entire movie,
and I just did not recognize him without a hat
on I've literally never seen him not wear a hat
up until then. But he's also in a movie that
I saw when I was a kid called Josh and Sam.

(01:45:55):
Have you ever heard of Josh and Sam? I have.
So this is about two brothers, Josh and Sam, and
they go on a road trip because their parents are divorced.
They like steal a car and try to go to
Canada to be with their mom or something, and Josh,
the older brother, convinces Sam, the younger brother, that he
was not not one of those like like, oh, we

(01:46:18):
you are adopted. He convinces him that he's a robot.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
I think you've told me about this before.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
Yeah, it's a kind of a fun movie from the
early nineties. But they this little, this little like seven
year old boy just thinks he's a robot the whole
movie and does a bunch of like he does like
trick driving and like it's so so weird. But Noah
Flice plays Josh the older oh sorry, plays Sam the
robot boy. And it also stars Joe Allen, the Great

(01:46:46):
Joe Allen, Chris Patten may he Rest, Martha Plimpton, Svu Alum,
and Steven and Stephen Tobolowski, the great Stephen Tobolowski, needle
knows ned ned the head Huh. Sammy Jenkins from one
of my other favorite movies, Memento, Yeah, Crazy No Flies.
What a career. I've seen so many things of his
and I didn't realize that that that was him. But

(01:47:07):
he's great in this. And had I known that he's
in my like literally my favorite movie, I I would
have known to expect a great performance.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
Oh well, yeah, not surprised because it's a great performance.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:47:21):
But they say they basically tell him like, Okay, you're underrest,
don't say anything and get a lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Yeah, And he's like, I don't need a lawyer. What
do I need a lawyer for.

Speaker 1 (01:47:29):
They like, just get a fucking lawyer. And they step
out of the interrogation room and they tell to Robert
child Leonard like, hey man, we did this.

Speaker 2 (01:47:36):
Because we yeah, yeah, we did this to him.

Speaker 1 (01:47:38):
We basically set all of this emotion.

Speaker 2 (01:47:41):
So I mean we and also him the coach.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
The guy that you know he has murdered, but like
we came to him for help and this is what
he did, and we told Hi about everything, like we're
where we bear some responsibility here, and Robert jarl Leutter
is just like, yeah, that that sucks. His defense attorney
can argue that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
But he set up a murder though it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
He shows no remorse. He literally like stabbed him in plan,
let him bleed out and hoped that he was in
a lot of pain. This is first degree murder. Guys. Sorry,
you can beg for lebiency from the judge at trial,
and Live says like, oh my god, that's our gods
may have I don't remember. It's like, oh my god,
that'll be twenty five twenty five to life, like that'll

(01:48:27):
we don't want to ruin this kid's life or his
life will be over.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
Yeah, he can't. And and he's basically like Cobbs can't
play judge, judy and executioner.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
Can we get like he get the good ending line
of like that kid's life was over when he was
fifteen when he got molested.

Speaker 2 (01:48:42):
So which is a really strong, like good good kind
of thematic ending line. And they just like let it land,
and that's our dick wolf. I kind of the more
we talk about I kind of like this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
It's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
It's it's not no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:49:00):
It's not doing anything bold by any stretch. But it's
fine enough.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
Sure, And I am a little mad that they completely
forget the whole thing with the teacher in the beginning,
the whole thing with the teacher in the beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
But yeah, because that's the showly acknowledging. It's like, no
one's no one's going to complain too much about this.
Yeah at the end of the day, right, guys like like,
no one's one's no one's gonna everyone's gonna think like
the show was thinking, which is like, yeah, but she's hot.
So these guys are fine.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
It's not that big of a deal. Yeah, which you
know it is.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
But it's just one of those we get to just
do that, I guess, because who's really going to complain.
People should complain, but they're not going to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
So why I'm not going to. Well let's see, let's
see who's who's complaining in the user reviews. But that's
our episode for this week. Lon order res for you
season seventeen, episode ten, Catfishing Teacher from Trivia Corner. Michael Gaston,
who plays the coach Bozinski, has been in two other
episodes of SVU as different characters, including the second ever

(01:50:08):
episode of SVU A Single Life, and Kelly Barrett, who
plays Phoebe Burnapp, was also in season twelve episode fifteen Flight,
which is the Jeffrey Epstein episode.

Speaker 1 (01:50:25):
Oh god, oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Yeah, so this was like five years before that, and
she played one of the very young looking models, Dahlia Jessup, gotcha. Okay,
so so interesting. She's been on both sides of that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Of that situation and perpetrator.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
Yeah, and from the goof's department, I don't remember this happening.
Benson tells a fifteen year old that if he withholds information,
he could be an accessory to statutory rape. That must
be zach right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
When they first go to talk to them at like
the schoolyard.

Speaker 2 (01:51:07):
And so this is legally impossible as the law cannot
be used to punish someone who is in the category
of the person that the law is designed to protect. Yeah,
a VICTI so yeah, so, but but Benson's just probably lying.

Speaker 1 (01:51:24):
Well, yeah, because as the Supreme Court says, as we
learned last week that the cops can lie to you.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
Cops can lie to you. This is a weird one.
Phoebe Bernapp's attorney asked what charges she's being held on
and O'Dwyer replies that she's being charged with two counts
of rape in the third degree, but that she also
may be adding a charge of rape and the second degree,
kidnapping the second degree, and sexual assault. Right. You mentioned
this in our in our recap, sexual assault is not

(01:51:52):
a criminal charge. It's simply a term to describe any
type of sexually motivated crime. So you can't can't actually
be charged with sexual assault. There's got to be like
a like a specific thing, which is weird. The actual
crime most commonly mistakenly referred to a sexual assault is
sexual abuse, either in the third or second or first degree.

(01:52:15):
Aggravated sexual abuse is sometimes mistakenly referred to as aggravated
sexual assault.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
Crazy interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
I mean, I'll take that with a grain assault because
it's with it's from me IMDb, but quite interesting. From
User review Corner. Oh boy, b cogaing Bing is back.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
I thought you said last week it was his final one.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
No, no, it is. The last week was the first
one that he didn't go oh oh gotcha. Okay, so
be coging Bing is back. But we're going to read
a couple of them first, jeez. First from Yah's Goliner,
this is always a good one. From January seventh, twenty

(01:53:00):
twenty two. Ten out of ten stars.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
Wow, a perfect episode.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
A I anowlished him here. This is what they write
teacher look predators. There are two predators, female and male teachers.
In fact, you may find someone more innocent. The predator,
in the guise of a ram ends young lives at
the age of fifteen. One more case has been added

(01:53:28):
to the tragedies and storms. The victim's interrogation of the
predator is impressive and striking. Quote. I encouraged him. You know.
I had thought when we read Yasgulliner's reviews in the
past that the English might not be their first language,
But I actually think that this is extremely poet. I

(01:53:51):
find this one very moving in a way that I
can't quite put my finger on. And from the other
side of the aisle bk Kaz from December third, twenty
twenty one, one out of ten stars. Apparently this is
also perfectly title cased, where words like a is in
the are not capitalized, but all the other ones are

(01:54:14):
except for one thing, which is kind of like going
to say so close annoying. Apparently, when a woman is
the predator, no repercussions, that's the title. SVU knows its audience,
and it now panders with scripts that ninety seven percent
of the time feature a male perpetrator and a female victim.
Oh boy, this episode is one of those rarities that

(01:54:37):
reverses the dynamic and perhaps truer to life shows. Both
the investigation and the consequences are not the same. In
this case, a female high school English teacher is nailing
the student's no necks and knuckle draggers. That by itself
could be the story. I kind of agree with that,
but no, it has to be a secuitous plot that,

(01:54:57):
wait for it, ultimately shows a man is the perpetrator.
What happens to the female teacher nothing of consequence. Don't
make me agree with this guy show. In fact, the
SVU moral majority seems uninterested in hammering her legally the
way they would a male. Yes, they arrest her, but
there's none of the standard preachy lectures or snarls of disgust,

(01:55:19):
no effort to coddle and comfort the victims. These things happen,
I guess, and because she's female, she's not simply a predator,
but someone who must have a compelling reason for doing
what she does. I think you're also forgetting that she's hot.
Who knows? She disappears once they're on to the real
culprit Q preachy lectures and snarls of disgust. I kind

(01:55:41):
of agree with this, but but like doesn't end.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
With please my men's rights activist group.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Yeah right, red pill. I feel like kind of they're right,
but for the wrong reasons.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:55:58):
And that's our episode for this week. Law and Order
SVU Season seventeen, Episode ten, Catfishing Teacher Air January sixth,
twenty sixteen. False flag, you guys, false flag. If you
agree or disagree with us, if you know what all
of the January sixth things are about, let us know.
We're an SVU podcast on Blue Sky, which is the

(01:56:20):
official Blue Sky. I'm not going to say that of
not fucking your students.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
And you can take that to the bank about the bank,
the blood Bank, Senator and for longer or weirder stuff
or tweets, eze emails, send us an email special viewing
units strude oldgmail dot com and give us a rate
and review over fine podcasts are sold.

Speaker 2 (01:56:39):
I I h god, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
Oh oh. The home Invasion next week. Yeah, I saw
when the episode ended tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:56:48):
Oh boy, tune in next week when we view and
review and lovingly rety cool or something. Law and Order
SVU season seventeen, Episode eleven, entitled Townhouse Incident, Benson winds
up stuck in the middle of a hostage situation after
her babysitter tells her something suspicious is happening in the

(01:57:08):
home of another family she works for. So I think
that this is a bottle episode, or mostly a bottle episode.
But the reason that I'm like really not looking forward
to this is the one of the like kidnapper, perpetrate
invader people is played by a guy named Joe Reagan

(01:57:29):
who looks pretty strikingly like Pablo Schreiber. Oh god, okay,
so I hope we get some William Lewis flash bets.
There it is. That's it. But a lot of people
like this episode. People are saying it's one of the
best ever, So really, there you go ever forever. I

(01:57:52):
guess the ratings are very high. So well, we'll find
out next week. Tune in then, were adrenaline couldn't breathe
while watching by far one of the best episodes there
isn't a uh There isn't a negative review except for
one that says good good TV, bad for the psyche,

(01:58:12):
so we'll probably read that one. Uh So, tune in
next week for that and until then for long arter
special viewing unit.

Speaker 1 (01:58:22):
I'm A and I'm met Reuter. We will see you
guys next week. Don't go

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