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August 10, 2025 34 mins
Matt and Aviv read your correspondence and talk inspiration vs interpolation vs theft. We also tackle James Gunn, Sabrina Carpenter, and by popular request, Dean Cain. 

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
But yes, I have a couple of follow ups, one
from last week, one big follow up that we'll get
to in the mail bag. But I wanted to talk
a little bit about the lawsuit for against Dave Franco
and Alson Brie that alleges that to their movie Together

(00:29):
is quote a blatant ripoff of a movie called Better Half,
written and directed by Patrick Henry Phalan. So I did
some research. It appears as though I can't watch Better
Half anywhere, and let me uh, I want to read
the the little blurb for each of the movies from

(00:51):
IMDb and you can see the similarities and differences. And
then I'll tell you tell you a little story that
I may have shared on the show, but I may
not have, So Together, says years into their relationship, Tim
and Millie find themselves at a crossroads as they move
to the country. With tensions already flaring, an encounter with
an unnatural force threatens to corrupt their lives, their love,

(01:13):
and their flesh, and as you might know from the trailer,
their flesh is starting to like meld together. And so
Better Half follows Arturo, who is searching for true love,
and Dafty, a polygamist allergic to commitment. They meet for
a one night stand, but they end up finding their
missing halves when their bodies fuse during sex.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
So there is one.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Big overlap in terms of what is happening.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
I'm just picturing this like the substance.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Now, yeah, well, yeah right.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
I think both of them are kind of like the substance,
but better half came out before the substance, and I
think that they are different enough that you could probably
prove the way that Good Vibrants is a response to
be My Baby by the Ronettes, because Brian Wilson heard

(02:08):
be My Baby by the Ronettes and had to pull
his car over and weep because it was the most beautiful,
beautifully recorded song he had ever heard.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Iterations.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, yeahs no.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm just literally just I'm thinking of fucking Hugh grad
in Heretic where.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, iteration iterations. So I think I think
it is more like that. Maybe maybe write them a
check because you're good dudes. I don't think even if
they were like, oh hey, this movie that was pitched
to us has like an interesting kind of hook. It's
it's pretty clear. I don't give any spoilers, but it's

(02:46):
pretty clear. That there is a major difference between these
two movies and where they go. But I also want
to tell a story that happened to me got well, no,
quite the opposite. I may have I may have dabbled

(03:08):
in some light treason.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Ok.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
No, So you had mentioned that that a friend, a
very close friend of mine, made a podcast that was
a little bit ripped off by Hulu. By a little bit,
I mean a lot. It's the same that came out
in the New York Times. This is corporate wants to
find want you to find the difference between these pictures.

(03:31):
And so that is true. But what is also true
is after my movie Waszzy Lazarus available now on screen,
Box Came was doing its festival run. We are contacted
by someone at the who's like a judge for the
slam Dance Film Festival, who happened to be in l
A visiting, and we had lunch with him and he

(03:53):
pitched us, he meanly in to like direct and produce
a script that he had written called A Good Book Boy,
which is a haunted house movie told from the perspective
of the family dog. So the dog can see the ghosts,
no one else can see the ghosts.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Oh, I remember you talking about this, Yes.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
And so uh then you know, we were we were
developing it. We were like figuring out even concept art,
how to shoot it, dog vision, color palettes, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
We were like doing visions of the script.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, a color palette you don't have to worry too much.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
About, yeah, blues and yellows. Yeah. And then another friend
of mine sent this over to me and it was
the premiere at south By the south By Southworth West
Film Festival this year of a movie with the same
concept and the same title. Ours was called a Good

(04:47):
Boy and theirs was called Good Boy.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Was this on Hulu?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
It no, it's it's just coming out now, but it has,
according to its its press, one on Rotten Tomatoes and
so yep, there you go.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
So there was because there was a god time as
a mind FuG not that many years ago there was.
Hulu had done like a series of movie I mean
barely feature length like movies with with Blumhouse when Blumhouse
was still better, and one.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Of them for a friend of mine directed one of those.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Oh okay, which one.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I can't remember what it's called, but it's the one
about like the all girl rock band Gotcha and now
she's married to Scott Derrickson, who directed Sinister Friend Is
Friend Is is a is a bold statement, like our acquaintance.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah. Yeah, But there was one where it was like
I've never seen it all there where it was called
like I think it was called good Boy, and it
was like that is It's got a dog.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
That is a different movie.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Right, So I'm saying, in terms of a title being
the same, that's the titles with the dog that's not fun,
but the.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
One that came out this year. The log line on
IMDb is a loyal dog moves to a rural family
home with his owner Todd, only to discover forces, supernatural
forces lurking in the shadows. So it's like basically the
exact same as Dark Entity's threatened his human companion. The
brave pup must fight to protect the ones he loves
the most. So yeah, it it uh, it happens this

(06:26):
like kind of co evolution happens. Armageddon Deep Impact Impact
not a great example because Disney did get pitched Deep
Impact and rushed to make Armageddon first.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yes, and we're first to market.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
This is this is more a better example of co
evolution because there's like no way, Like even if I
had started shooting that movie the day that it was
pitched to me, it wouldn't have been done before this movie.
This movie was already probably in post production.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
It's just weird because it's a weird volcano Dante's peak.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
That is, I think a better example, because very clearly
that wasn't a Disney motivated right job.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah yeah, uh interesting? All right, Well that's well, there
you go. I guess shit happens.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
And shit does happen, although sometimes it.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
Is completely nefarious, like in the case of your friend
the podcast.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
I hope, I hope the truth comes out and the
guilty parties have to pay the wrong parties.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, I I will hope that. Uh So all of
that to be said, We've got some mailbag we got
to get to.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Okay. First email up is from listener Jillian pronounced Jillian.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
In an email titled Heyo, keeping it short and sweet
this week. Fun fact about Jefferson Mace, who played doctor
Carl Rudnick.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
He's an outstanding Carl Nudnick.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
He's an outstanding audiobook there Rader easily one of my
all time favorites. His narration of the Expanse novel series
is top notch. Listen to book one, Leviathan Falls on
your next long road trip. Mace does character voices exceptionally well,
you'll have some fun in quotes episodes coming up. Enjoy.
And then somehow in the same email but a different email,

(08:22):
it says, correction, Leviathan Wakes is the first book in
the Expanse series.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
You're probably not not not Leviathan Falls, you fucking philistine.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Uh, you're probably not going to read it. But I
need to get that right, So thank you, Jillian.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, thank you, Jillian. Next email listen. The next email
is from listener Peggy and Peggy and Wright's Land based
ally news, Matt and Avive. Have you heard about the
whales saving seals from being eaten by orcas? This is
from Animal World National geographic humpback whale keeps rescuing other

(08:58):
animals and scientists have no clue why it's happening.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yes, and it includes a picture of a seal on
top of a humpback whales. It does, It absolutely does,
because the seal is doing like a like like a
Titanic like but kind of thing, and right there, I
don't know.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
And then that and it's that photo I don't think
is from National Geograph.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I'm very puzzled.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
Yes, it looks ai to be. I just everything these days, so.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Uh, by the bye, just for an animal news. We
all know that killer whales are not whales, Is that right?

Speaker 3 (09:44):
What are they considered?

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Then? They?

Speaker 1 (09:46):
Well they are They are basically just big dolphins.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Okay, I I I don't know enough about the taxonomy
of whale.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Whales are such significantly different to other other kinds of whales.
They're all mammals, right, yeah, but uh yeah, killer whales
very different.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Oh well, there there you go.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Posts. They are poor posts, poor pie, poor poor poor pie.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Poor pods, poor poor poor pods that go in pods.
It's yeah, it's this all makes sense somewhere. Uh, next time,
what we have is this listen here luke and titled
another win for targeted ads. Oh boy, hey, Luke Red's
episode three to eighty point two, two hours of our
most problematic takes. That was our episode that we did

(10:37):
episode last week. Yes, last week. That was longer than
the actual episode.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Due to by about twenty minutes.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, due to if he've been gone for six weeks
when the bonus episode opened with Michael Jackson's beat It.
I was truly ready for anything. Then the ad read
in the ad read informed me MJ the Musical was
returning to Chicago, and I couldn't stop laughing, even when
the ad repeated many times. A different kind of diddler
the musical.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Nope, nope, you take that one again.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Oh, a different kid diddler, well, kite, well, the same
kind of different kind of kid, A different kid diddler
the musical. Welcome back, I co s Hider takes Luke
and then bretheses and my name is Kevin pe Fleck, KP.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Glenn.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Thank you, Luke. Another another weird connection. My friend Lee
Is plays guitar in HIMJ the Musical, and I believe
is in the touring company.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Got you?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (11:31):
How about that? Next email is just a picture sent
in by Tony and an email titled THEO And it's
just a picture of barbecue sauce that says bone sucking
sauce in reference to Teddy Teddy bone sucking good, Yeah,
bone sucking.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Next email is from I guess eminem super fan Lily Osath,
who writes guess who back back again. Lilly writes Hello,
Matt Nevive Ooh, Nelly, I am excited about this news.
What I heard about this through the grapevine from our
friend in Calli a week ago, but I didn't believe him,

(12:13):
and then I saw it confirmed on Insta. So I
wrote a rap of my jubilee. I don't think. I
don't okay, of the news too much of the dismus
and annoyance to Gareth.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Think you mean dismay?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
I think.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
So I finished it on Dolly Parton's official confirmed Dolly
Parton Day. It's no Joe lean or nine to five,
but it's funny, A little rap to the beat of
Eminem's Guess Who's back slash?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Without Me? It's just called without Me. It's really horrendous.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I tried and clearly was procrastinating on work for a
good few days by love Lily, agent of just plain nonsense.
Ps I rose come to London and I don't are
we actually gonna do this? I don't quite know that,

(13:05):
So I have to I have to read this whole
thing to to know what the news is.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
You gonna do it to the.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Nope, I'm just gonna do it quietly to myself. Okay, Okay,
it's just in the first it's just in the the
first couplet, it seems like Stabler is returning to SVU permanently.
I don't know. I gotta look up this news. I would.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I'm gonna guess no, because I feel like I feel
like other people would have told us this.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
So I think it's just another crossover.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
I think it's like another crossover.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, because April seventeenth, Stable return to Law and Order
when Benson needed him the most.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Chris Maloney will return.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
This is from from tv Line from August second, on
Orders View, Chris mollinney confirms he'll guest star is Stabler
not anybody else in season twenty seven. Yes, Chris malleney
will return to Law and Order SVU in the upcoming
season twenty seven, reprising his role as Elliott Stabler as
a guest star. So I don't I don't think that

(14:18):
he will be on more than maybe four or five episodes.

Speaker 3 (14:22):
It'll probably be for some story arc. Yes, require him
to be there for in the same way that the
fucking Chicago people keep showing up on this fucking show.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
But more more interesting news from tv Line. Other guest
appearances from B D Wong and We Love that fucking
Dean Winters, Brian Cassidy's coming back.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
I swear to God like this. Once you get into
the SVU sphere here, it's like the it's the equivalent
of like no one really ever quits. It's like, especially
you quit, so you could have one whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Yeah. Uh, no one stays dead except for Uncle Ben. Yeah,
Cassidy is the weird one for me. It's like herpes.
He just shows up twenty least.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Expected, like all the herpes does.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, so thanks for the rap, Lily, I will I
will read this and listen to a karaoke version of
Eminem's without.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Me and yeah, because if you don't have the backing track,
it's not gonna work. Definitely, it's not gonna make fetch
is not gonna happen on that one. Rough, So next email,
so Peggy and lets us know, all right, this is
the multi email thread here.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Basically I and and listen.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
But you told me this, like independent.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I saw this first, and then we got a little
bit of a barrage of of news that because basically
because last week we talked about what a piece of
ship Dean Winters is.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
And also sorry, let me try, let me try that again.
What a pie.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Last week we talked about what a piece of ship
Dean can is and that he deflowered Brookshields for no
reason into still dining out on that and fucking the
Hollywood reporter.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Hey man, you know, I guess that's that's an unofficial
resume thing right there, Like, you know, it's like, what
do you he's deeed? What else does he have going?

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Like? Well, it turns out, well, fucking nothing jaws, Peggy
Ann writes the Hollywood Reporter. Callin, Former Superman actor Dean
Kane says he's joining Ice. Quote this is the right thing,
now it's not. Yeah, uh and this is his quote.
I've spoken with some officials over at ICE, and I

(16:38):
will be sworn in as an ICE agent asap.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Cool. So I can't wait to jump out of the
back of a Penske truck av PO, you piece of shit.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
I have a slightly different take on this, which.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Is your head will explode.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
Will explode? Uh, very clearly, d needs work.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Well, yeah, that's why he's the acting gig has dried up,
so he's got to joined Ice for income now.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
And so I think because everyone's touting how much money
you make by joining ICE, by giving up your soul.
He's like, listen, I'm doing it for my country. Blah
blah blah blah blah. Now I think he just needs
the money.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
You know, Ded, you could also just join the military
and be deployed overseas. That's the same concept of, you know,
fighting for America. Why don't you do that?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
I get the fuck out of Peggy follows up UH
with a variety articles saying John like Wasamo slams Dean
Kane for joining ICE.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Quote, what a moron.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
I here's the thing, John Leguizamo king shit because whatever
he was talking about, his his role in the menu
being modeled after Stephen Sigall and Sagall was like threatened
and he's like, you can't come back into the country,
So fuck you, buddy.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yeah, you tried to knock me out in UH in
executive decision.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
That's true. That is true. I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
They've they've hated each other since then.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I will believe it. And that's all the Kamala is
fit to comment.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk a little bit about this.
John like Guizamo calls Dean Kaine a moron, for joining
ice quote, what kind of a loser volunteers for that?

Speaker 2 (18:17):
What a moron? Dean Caine?

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Your pronouns are has slash been that's pretty good. Yeah,
I'm not like a. I mean, I don't love the
pronouns joke because it's just been like drilled to death
but not bad.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
Yeah, I mean in the way that all hacky bits.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yeah, I don't know why.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Uh, John like I don't think that John like Guizamo
has a particular connection to Dean Caine. I think he's more.
He talks a lot about like Latino rights in this country.
He did a whole special on it. Yeah, so yeah,
I think, Uh, there's that, and I just love I
just love John Leguizamo, as you said, King shit, I'll

(18:58):
take the pest over Superman any day over Coper.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Was it like Boa? I think Dean Kine is in
like a bad CGI v O D snake movie.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
O God. Uh speaking of did you watch that uh
that Amazon War of the World yet?

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I did not?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Sorry, ice Cube, just ice Cube sitting there just got
the coveted zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, I if you can believe it, of Eve, I
missed that one.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Yeah, so that's all. The camel fits a camel over
on the uh the blue sky. In a segment we
like to call, I just blew myself.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
I'm afraid I just blew myself. How how many Dean
Kane tweets did we or blue bleat?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Only one? Only one bleat? And uh and and one
Instagram message?

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Okay, so worry thank you?

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah Fulberto says, has the Dean Kine news made your
head explode? What the kind of what kind of? What
the fuck? Kind of fucked up timeline? Are we stuck
in hashtag poopazoid?

Speaker 3 (20:11):
To answer the latter half of that, I have not
the worst one, yeah, whatever, whatever one there is, this
is the worst one.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
And the more I see of David korn Sweat, the
more I think that he is kind of Superman manifest
in real life, or Clark Kent more so manifest in
real life. I'm not I like, don't love. I'm not
a big like Oh I love this celebrity and if
he does anything bad, I will either ignore it or
be really heartbroken. David corn Sweat is my guy. Now,

(20:42):
I I you you better keep his name out your mouth. David,
don't fuck this up. Don't you fuck this up.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
I cannot wait for this milkshake.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Duck.

Speaker 3 (20:50):
This is gonna be fantastic. See that's where you gotta
go with my thing and just assume that everyone is terrible.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Everyone's a piece of shit. They do that way.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
If they're good, it's your pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, he's he's He's tricked me into loving him, As
Joan Jet says, I hate myself for loving you.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I mean, you're You're much more of a Superman guy
than I am. I I find that character just generally boring.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I do too. I don't like Superman, but now I do.
I love him.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
You know, it's like a huge mind fuck. So this
is a complete diversion here. But since all the topic,
last weekend, Cassie and I ripped off an entire season
of I don't know if you're familiar with this show.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Dean Kane's new show.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
There was a show on I don't even know what network.
We watched it on TB, but I don't know where
it originally aired. But it was called Scream Queens.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh yeah, ye.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Emma Roberts is in it, right, No, not Gabaret Sitabe.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
No, there's a different one. This is a reality.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
Different scream Oh Yeah, where and which James Gunn hosted.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
He was the director, So it's basically it's like ten
actresses are competing for uh, for a shot to be
in Saw six.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yeah yeah, And and Shawnee Smith hosted Yes she was
remember this, Yes.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
And it was so weird because it's like, oh, and
James Gunn is like the director of all the different
little scenes and stuff, and I was like, wait, fuck,
and he is the I mean, look, the gray looks
a lot better on him, but like he lo. It
is like and I literally said to Cassie at some points,
I was like, this is what I just referred to
as the douchebag haircut.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Anyone that is rocking hair anyone that.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Is rocking this haircut, you don't need to know anything more.
You just look at me like that guy's a douchebag.
But then you consider he directed the Superman, which is
all very good, and then he went on to obviously
a lot more success with Marvel before they did him
dirty because of a tweet. And then now they're kicking
themselves because it's like, oh no, we fucking we We
handed DC the King the keys to the but now

(23:00):
all of our shit sucks it. Their shit's better.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
What did we do? Did you hear? He?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
He uh spoke about that recently and he spoke about
being asked back to Marvel, and he like met with
Kevin Figi and he had already agreed to direct the
Suicide Squad, which was like more of a reboot than
a sequel, but at that point he uh signed on

(23:25):
to do like a sequel. So he's like, oh man,
how am I gonna tell Kevin that I'm doing like
something for the competition?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
And uh and you remember.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Oh right, they fired me, So that's how I fucking
tell him.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
H And so he he sat down with Kevin Figi
and he's like, Kevin, there's something I gotta tell you.
And Kevin FIG's like, oh no, did you are you
good doing fucking Superman? And he's like, no, no, no,
I'm doing Suicide Squad And he's like, okay, okay, you
can come back, and now the fuck you dude, I'm
doing Superman.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
I mean, maybe don't fire him. But it was just
it was weird seeing it's like, oh and actually that
show it was better that it had any right sure
to be like in terms of you know, like that
it was back whatever what like, they took it seriously.

(24:15):
It wasn't just yeah, complete nonsense, even though it kind
of looks it, but like there was an actual like
they there, there was there was a genuineness to.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
The when when we are longing for for two thousand
and eight Reality TV.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
I know it's so.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
I find James Gunn's career really fascinating, similar to Jon Favreau,
where it's like, there's no reason that someone like that
should be making two hundred million dollar movies. James Gunn's
first screenplay credit is for Tromeo and Juliet, the trop
Troma film Yeah, where Romeo and Juliet turned out to

(24:57):
be brother and sister at the end. And so then
he goes on to create the Tromaville Cafe TV series,
which is another kind of just schlocky horror thing, did Slither,
which is very good, and directed a bunch of shorts,
including something called human Z which is half human, half chimpanzee,

(25:23):
all abomination. In two thousand and eight, the same year
that he does this screen Queen's Thing, then directs Super
which I think is pretty good, and Movie forty three,
which is historically known as one of the worst movies ever.
He directs that the year before Guardians of the Galaxy,
and I think that's why. Actually, yeah, I think it's

(25:47):
important to remember that when he got Guardians of the Galaxy,
everyone was like, first of all, who the fuck are
the Guardians of the Galaxy? And who the fuck is
James Gunn Marvel. This is definitely gonna be Marvel's first flop,
And then it turned out that that wasn't the case
and has been directing one hundred two hundred million dollar
movies ever since.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
But he still kind of has that like young Diy
horror ethos ye in some senses, which I think is great.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, very interesting. It was interesting seeing that show because
I was like, oh, okay, I get why he has
been a successful director. He seems to kind of actually
understand what.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
He's doing, and he's really really good at like kind
of verbalizing. He's like very a very approachable kind of director.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
Oh with that douchebag haircut, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's now with that douchebag haircut.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
But yeah, after he gets rid of that, Yeah, so
that's all the mailbags fit to me?

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Oh no, that's not.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
All we got more bleats and shut and we got
one more bleat. Uh So super fan Ezra says, I
haven't been writing anything to you for a while because
I've been re listening to an old podcast that hasn't
been updated in almost two years. I'm slowly catching up.
It is called The Ghost and the Robot Cool. I
don't know if it's your thing.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
You cheating on us with another podcast?

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Yeah, and uh I had mentioned that no album should
be longer than thirty eight minutes, because you start us
is thirty I think I think I may have said
that Ziggy started us with thirty six minutes. But Ezra says,
when you were talking about album links, my first thought
was short and sweet. The most recent album from Sabrina

(27:33):
Carpenter it's thirty six fifteen, and the rise and fall
of Zggy start us in the Spiders Mars is thirty
eight twenty nine. That is a trick question, trick statement, Ezra,
because the Sabrina Carpenter album is the same song repeated
eleven times.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
So, I mean, just my name's Kevin pie Flynn.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, I mean, if we're just going out of left
field on Sabrina Carpenter here.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
So did you see the just from just from the
top rope.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I mean, look, I'm gonna call it like I see it,
and it comes up for no apparent reason.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
I who I have met before?

Speaker 3 (28:08):
By the way, I okay, sure when she was like fifteen,
I was gonna say, you must have been just like
a giant standing next to her.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
I certainly was.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
I I have such like she's if.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
If you had not seen another another blonde woman for
for Matt.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
No no, if if you had not said that you
had met her, I r L had seen her and
can verify that she has a.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Few she was created in a lab.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I would say that she is Ai, that she is
like the movie Simone, but with a music, but with
a singer. For the simple reason the new album she's
putting out the band's Best Friend thing? Are you have
you tracked that at all with the album?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Don't?

Speaker 1 (28:54):
I don't dislike her music, but much like a CDC
a band I really really like.

Speaker 2 (28:59):
All there's ho's are exactly the same.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
I mean yes and no, I more yes than no,
but so very high level of this. Like she put
out a she put out an album cover where it's
like her on all fours and it looks like she's
having her heart. Yeah, it's literally the smell of the

(29:21):
glove I saw?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Is that is that short and sweet?

Speaker 3 (29:24):
No, that's this new that's man's best friend.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Oh god, Sabrina, what are you doing right?

Speaker 3 (29:30):
So there's that and then everyone was like that's fucked up.
So that she's like, Okay, I'm gonna put out another
album cover for that, and then she put out another
album cover and then this week yet another album cover,
and I'm like this and there's like Lolita imagery like
on the inside, like on the the album art on
the inside, and it's like when people are putting out
it's like, you know, this is this is everything, You're

(29:52):
should do it and like her being like, no, that's
not what I'm doing. It's like, so you're not making
any creative decisions whatsoever, So like someone is doing all
this for you and they're just like.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
When I do an alternate line read sure, that's not
what I'm doing.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Sure, but like you know what I'm saying. It's like,
make if you're an actual artist, make a creative decision
and don't fucking back down from it. Like if you
want to court controversy, then court controversy by backing off
because like six people on the internet got mad at you,
and then you change your entire and then you indicate
where she's like, no, this wasn't on my mood board

(30:29):
or whatever like that. It's like, so you're not even
you don't even know the material that you are aping
whenever you're doing like Lolita imagery, you don't know that,
which means someone in your marketing team is just like,
it doesn't matter if it's not you, Sabrina, it would
be literally any other blonde singer, because you are just
a vessel. You are an industry plant.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Unfortunately, I mean much much like uh, much like other
other things. Get your money, girl, the machine will go
with all without you.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
But like, don't tell me you're an artist.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Then well I think that she is an artist. She
can see, yeah, And I don't know personally, I don't
know how much of the songs she writes can change
a word, get a third, et cetera, et cetera. But uh,
I also think, you know, maybe they're courting controversy. Maybe

(31:25):
they're releasing three different album covers to have the Sabrina
stands by three different copies of the fucking record, But
you didn't know that Taylor fans would do that.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Well, yes, and that's we live in consumer hell now,
but like you could just do that without running scared.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I don't, well, I don't, I haven't. I don't know
this commentary that all that well, so I don't know,
don't don't know that that she's running scared or what
what she has said. So I'll look into it.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
But you know, for you, whatever she put out the
second one, she's like, oh, here, here's the new album
cover and then like start correct by God, Approved by God.
So it's like, again, that's what she's doing, She's running scared.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
They're just like, oh no, I think that this is
all very coy. I think that I think that this
is all consistent with her like coquettish persona.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
It's getting it's getting fucking old.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
We'll see, we'll see it leaves, as she says, quite
an impression. I don't. I don't. I don't love any
of her songs.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
I think, uh, espresso slaps.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
I don't think so, well, you're wrong, no, that she
will always have that and the rest is like who gives.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
I do credit her for getting people to stop saying espresso,
so good for you.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Sure the good that you have done for the world.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
Yeah, okay, that I will give you.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
And from my personal correspondence on on Instagram, yeh fucking
you guys. Uh Sam, there are prime rights. I'm about
to use my insomnia to create something for the most
epic mail bag in the history of I don't know,
maybe it won't be that great. Gotta get started parentheses.

(33:13):
No it's not porn. Well I wasn't thinking it was
going to be porn, but now now I'm thinking, yeah, right,
thanks Sarah Prime and uh I look, I look my
I look forward to the bailbag. Hey, Yann In case
we didn't get it on the In the email sent

(33:34):
us a screenshot of a tweet from pop Crave saying
former Superman actor Dean Keane announces he had joined ICE.
The The only reason I'm saying this again is because
it's a slightly different quote. If you this is the quote.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
If you want to help save America, ICE is arresting
the worst of the worst and removing them from America's streets.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
From home depot, parking lots. Everyone. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Pathetic, pathetic, and that's all the mailbags fits.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
The mailbag. As always, you can get at us. We're
at SVU podcast on Blue Sky, the Official Blue Sky
of Ice. I guess fuck that, I'm just I'll just
tweet weird, just banding.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh gotcha, there you go. Take that to the bank
Floodbak Senator and for longer weirder subset. It's an email
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