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August 17, 2025 44 mins
Matt and Aviv have a SPOILER FREE discussion of the new movie, Weapons. And discuss slurs for robots while reading your emails. 

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
This is a true story that happened in my town.
So this one Wednesday is like a normal day for
the whole school, but today was different.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
So we're going to be viewing and reviewing. It's it's
season seventeen, episode seventeen of SVU and we are seventeen
minutes into recording this this podcast, so probably time for
a trip to the mail bag and we will explain

(00:39):
why the number seventeen is important.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Weapons to be seventeen?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Were there is there?

Speaker 5 (00:46):
That's spoiler alert.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Wait this episode seven, it down to sixteen because you're
listed it as sixteen.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yep, because you're fucking because you're fucking wrong.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
God damn it.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
So, starting with the mail we have in an email
from Tasha Rotasha, Tasha, Okay, I always I feel like
always say wrong. Uh, and it's entitled oh no, Sydney Sweeney,
why do we.

Speaker 4 (01:11):
Have to do? All? Right?

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Hey guys, I didn't have the excuse of traveling, but
just thought I was ignoring the stupidity of the whole
Sydney Sweeney. But she says, just ss there it is. Yeah,
I guess that abbreviation fits now situation. Until Matt started
shouting about the commercial. I too thought it was print only,
and thus she as the bottle was hands off but
oi to the bay. I was walking in Costco listening

(01:35):
to this, and my mouth was a gape with shock.
Thanks Matt for keeping us oppressive. It all has Nasa, Tasha. Sorry,
U ps nabbed a great deal on ready to eat
chicken and waffles for four for six ninety nine.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
That sounds deliciousious go Costco. So thank you very much, Tasha.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Thank you, Tasha. Next email is from Ezra. Ezra sent
us five emails and then a blue sky saying sorry
for sending you five emails. I had said that I
think Ezra had mentioned one time that I talked or
something like Adam Conover, and Ezra corrected me. I had said,

(02:14):
the guy who runs the comedy at the pizza place,
Lucas looks like a viv not that either of you
has anything in common with Adam Conover. I wasn't referencing that.
I thought it was something from a long time ago.
It may also not have been you, Ezra, but thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Thanks for keeping us honest, Ezra.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Next email is from Teresa.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Wouldn't she guess?

Speaker 3 (02:39):
And the worst script ever written or real life with
an ellipses at the end. So Teresa writes, I'm sure
you will have already beat the dead horse about this,
but it still blows my mind. A washed up geriatric
actor decides to join an immigration police force to send
average everyday people to in turn mccamps, even though he himself.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I get what you're doing, and I understand. I understand
where you're going with this. They're concentration kIPS.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Interpret gambs, even though he himself is half Japanese and
his name tattooed on his ankle in Japanese characters, and
his father's own family was forced into interpret camps in
Idaho during World War Two, so he has undoubtedly heard
the stories of their struggles in pain. Seriously, it sounds
like the worst movie script ever written and so far fetched.

(03:31):
Can you hurry up and make Dean Tanaka Kane's head
explode side Teresa Aka Pages and Primrose say coort.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Teresa, hah, yes, so Dean Kine, your head will explode.
And also there is a specific type of person who
delights in inflicting the pain that their family has felt
on other people.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
The the uh.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
People, petty, revengeful fucks.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, the people who are immigrants who like pull the
ladder up after they get into the country and be like, well,
I just want you to come in the right way,
when the right way fifty years ago was just like
showing up. There was no no green card, no visas needed.
You just kind of showed up.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
And that's also just on the note of the doing
it the right way type situation. I hate that the
even and this is how you know it's bullshit. I mean,
it was never it was never about that. So like
the quote unquote right way, it was never about that.
There was no right the right way.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Never clearly clearly yeah, the right way, the right way.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
You know, it's it's bullshit simply for the fact that
the way that they're catching a lot of these people,
or some of.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Them at least, is that there is that their immigration hearings, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Is at their immigration hearings when they're trying to do
it literally the quote right way.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
No, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
So if if you're if they're trying to do it
the right way, you know, going through the courts and
doing all of this exactly. So it's like that's that's
how you know, just on its face is a they
don't mean that like they can say it. I think
that they might think that they think that.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
They don't, but they don't.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Actually, that's one of the things that sort of bothers
me about the media is that they that they treat
every argument as though it is like, like on it
on its merits, and I'm like, but but they don't
believe that.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's again, it's the it's the the cowardly way of
journalism of me, like, well, we have to present both sides.
And if the other side is just saying like if
they literally just ship into a microphone but then don't
see it, and it's like, well, what is your response
to the shitting in the microphone?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
Sound?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
Well, it's raining right now, And one fucking Facebook uncle
says it's not.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Who can who can tell?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Thank you very much? A few good men? Is that?

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Is that? A few good men?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well? Not about Facebook? He says, like, oh, if so
there was a twofer things. It's like if someone says
it was rating and the other person says that it
was it, you go out and find.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Out yeah, yeah, right, yeah, it also must have just
internalized that.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
And there's the other one where it's like, uh, you
can't a guy A guy comes up to me on
the street and ask which ways like third Street is?
Is this man interrogating me? Or is he just lost?

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Right, So it's like it's a lot of that kind
of thing.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
Next up is next email up is from listener Ezra.
So this is two of five. This is five. This
one's called zoron Mom Donnie.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Oh, I have it in a different order.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Actually, I want to read this one as as a
queer person. He and his wife are both my current crushes.
They're both gorgeous. So if you're wondering, uh, mom, Donnie
gets the Ezra bump and by bump I mean erection.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
We'll keep an eye on the polls.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Uh yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Next next thing, well, also from Ezra, entitled a thought
on the a answer just question? Is it literally just
a stream of conscious you just put it down.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
You can just do one.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Maybe it's like set aside a time every week to
just send all the thoughts.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Just just a thought suggestion to do whatever you want
live your life, you know, just it's just more of
a curiosity does chapters Yeah, And it's you know, it's
a way of doing it. It's all the ways of
doing it. Yeah, ates a thought on the American Eagle
ad I shaw him believe that if this were a tall, handsome,

(07:43):
dark haired man, there wouldn't be quite as much backlash.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
And listen to the whole episode as we talked about
if this was General or Taga.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
That's the problem as you've you've missed, you've lost the plot.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well no, I mean it's it's the same point that
we made, which is like a confluence of bad copy
and a bad choice of model.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Here here's my response to that. If because you could
even still have it be a white blonde hair, yeah,
I think she has blue eyed girl if you had
it be Renee Rap, gay exactly. But it's not that
the MAGA crowd have anointed her the Aryan princess obviously
because she's gay. So it's like the aryanness of this

(08:29):
is because of that. Yeah, they could have picked anyone
that would have filled that that would have felled like
the cool whatever the fuck?

Speaker 2 (08:37):
There is no cool Republican, no such thing. Did you
see that This this week Renee Rap found out who
Joe Rogan was.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I didn't. It was I I wish I could live
in the world that she lived, that she was just
a blissfully unaware of Joe Rogan. Uh Asra continues, I
imagine a David corn Sweat or Sebastian stan who both
seem rather nonpartisan and both have strong nerdy female fan bases.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I feel like you're just imagining David corn Sweat and
or a Sebastian Stan in like a sexy ad, which
is fine.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
You don't have to make it academic, right.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I've been wrong about these things before, so if I am,
feel free to correct me. These are just my thoughts
after hearing your discussion about the ad. I also didn't
know there was a video the photo. Yeah again, it's
I heard I read a story rather on somewhere online,
and it was talking about how like American Eagle is

(09:33):
now losing money off like they're both. I think the
stock and their actual like sales have dipped quite a bit,
so it's like they made a big splash spinner, all
this money cut in that check to Sydney Spear to
do everything despite the stock goes up for a hot
second and then they all lose money because the people
that run these companies are fucking idiots. I mean, t

(09:55):
b true without exception.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I think I'm not.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Not likening this to what happened with bud Light, but
in bud Light's case, it just sort of like normalized
after after a while, after all the hubbub went down.
But like, who knows if American Igloo weather that storm.
Next up is from listener Lily the the Baby Doll

(10:21):
Puppet super fan Lily Oxeth.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Who I can't even keep track of this anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Lily Lily writes an email entitled rumor has it and
Lily does not? Okay, word on the street, word on
the grape vine. That's not how that works. That's is
Benson might be taking a lady lover in the new season.
I will guarantee that there is a zero percent chance
of that happening. They might do the like the Disney

(10:47):
slash Marvel thing of like, oh this is the openly
gay character and it's like two men in the background
like shaking hands. Wow, yeah right, the padded on the
back of their bravery. I think if Benson has a
woman on woman relationship or kiss, it would be in

(11:11):
an undercover scenario. Why is Captain Benson going undercover? Great question?
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Lily goes on and or dream sequence there you go,
and Lily and Gareth do not recommend the rule of
Jenny Penn. I don't know what that is. We wanted
a horror movie just for Saturday night, Pizza night, and
oh boy, take some elder abuse.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Man tugging on catheters, terrorizing people in the middle of
the night, a random guy doing a hakka in the
middle of the cafeteria, asthma, a terrible old folks home
and throw in a baby doll puppet.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
That's some of that sounds scary.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
See the asthma. Really, that's where that GotY.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Go with God on this one.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
It wasn't scary or fun jumpy so much as it
was just a st being in weird with details dropped
in that came to absolutely no fruition. John Liftgw does
a good little jig. I actually know now, I know
what this movie is. When you mentioned John Liftgow this
movie was directed by a friend of a friend of mine,

(12:17):
And yes, I know that it is extremely weird.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
You have not seen it.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
I have not seen it. I have not seen it,
but it is.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's like it's John Liftgw basically going nuts and Jeffrey
Jeffrey Rush isn't itscar Oscar winner Jeffrey Rush from Shine
Remember Shine, I.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Do, I don't remember. It was Shiner Quills that he won.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
For uh big Quills. What a fucking movie that is?
Or he plays the Marquis de Sade of Eve. I
am I right that this coming November will be your
big four to oh. I was listening to an old
app from twenty twenty two and prior to you, your
and Matt's the Beekeeper argument about the premise, you stated
that it was your birthday ideas to come for you

(13:05):
from me and Gareth. That is incorrect. This coming October
will be my first birthday. Not so far, but yes,
not so far. I love you guys. Ps hiros signed Lily.
Thank you Lily.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Yes. Next email, if you can believe it, is from Ezra,
entitled My Chemical Romance. Ezra writes, the last concert I
went to was My Chemical Romance. It was September September
twenty twenty two, Bang, and it was in Newark, in
their home state of New Jersey. That night was absolutely incredible.
I'm shocked I had a voice afterward. Hearing everyone practically

(13:43):
scream my favorite songs made me so happy. I told
my friend who I was there with that night that
I kind of have a thing for Gerard way Dank,
and she seemed shocked that it wasn't a definite thing.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Dang.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I also wanted to Ben that every time you guys
are positive about trans people, it makes me happy.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
Well sick. That's why we do it.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
We will continue to do that. Make you happy, yeah,
for no other reason.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
For no other reason.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
Next email is from listener Peggy, and Peggy was the
tip of the spear when it comes to the Dean Caine.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
News.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
So she forwards us an article saying, Dean Caine responds
to John Oliver's criticism of his ice recruitment video, and
normally I wouldn't give this more fuel, but I think
it's I think it's a good representation of where Dean's
at these days. So on the John Oliver Show last
week tonight, he said, you know there's an old saying

(14:44):
in Hollywood. If all you can get is Dean Kine,
you're fucked.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm not saying that ice isn't I don't want to
get off on a rant here. I'm not saying that
ice isn't finding people. I'm just saying, when you're reduced
to pinning a badge to the fifty nine year old
star of The Dog who Saved Christmas, the Dog who
Saved Christmas Vacation, the Dog who Saved the Holidays, the
Dog who Saved Halloween, the Dog who Saved Easter, and

(15:08):
the Dog who Saved Summer.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
Maybe you're in trouble and.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Fantastic bit by the way, Yeah, pretty good bit.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
And he also said, no need for that guy to
wear a mask because the chances of anything anyone recognizing
him are fucking zero, and.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Dean has shit.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Dean, he had some fiery, fiery words of response. He
said that he did quote John Oliver, stole that mask
joke from the internet. Fire, also saying of the film
of his filmography, those movies were sweet, by the way.

Speaker 3 (15:43):
I'll bet they were, Dean Dean. Peggy writes in with
some information that I was unaware of, so it's entitled
lives Umbrella, and Peggy writes, Hi, Matt Vive that umbrella
with the milk jug thing was very very of the
time That's Steven Season seventeen was filmed.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
I was it crazy.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I saw those umbrellas many times after moving to New
York City in twenty sixteen, and they perplexed me all
the best, Peggy in Is this a thing that didn't
make it outside in New York?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Maybe not, because I saw that nowhere else expedingly dumb.
I was living in LA. Doesn't really rain in LA.
So I have no real, no real understanding of this.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
Next up is from at sixteen. I was d C,
so I was Eastcott. Wasn't that far from yeah, it
right city? I mean it raised a lot, and we're
not terribly far from New York City necessarily, and I
never encountered this.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Next up is from listener Jordan. Jordan writes, Hi, guys
of EVE, I never got the email about the social media.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
That's because I forgot Jordan.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Also, I've been waiting for you guys to get to
Collateral Damage forever. It's collateral Damages. I love that episode.
Get the title right as always, amazing Pod. I wanted
to mention that porn sniffing dogs are real.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Okay. I almost fell out of my fucking share when
I read this. I was like, wait a second, hold
the fuck on.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
The way they train them to sniff for bombs or drugs,
They can be trained to sniff for electronics. So it
might not have happened so quickly with the dogs, but
they do exist. So they are electronics sniffing dogs or
like is like a combination of like electronics and semen.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
But also like is this whatever the set of this?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Uh yeah, I'll say it, yeah, I'll try it.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Okay. The reason I stopped reading, but we all are is.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
This particular thing that they're trained to sniff for. Is
it only in like solid state drugs, because it's like
we all have iPhones.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
And pocket snack and production of in just production of electronics,
so it says EESD. Electronic sniffing dogs are trained to
detect the odor of a chemical compound called typhenyl phosphene
oxide t t PBO that is used in the production
of electronics. So it's like gunshot resident, but for electronics.

(18:01):
I guess Nala is following in the Seattle footsteps of
another rather famous canine officer, Bear, who joined Seattle PD
in twenty fifteen. Bear was credited that year for helping
to locate a USB thumb drive in the in the
home of in the home of Jared Fogel, the one

(18:21):
time bitch man for Subway Restaurants, who is serving fifteen
years in prison after pleading guilty to charges of traveling
to have sex with a minor and possessing child pornography. Anyway,
wish me luck. I'm still applying to law school by Jordan.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Jordan also included a link to the source he cites
his sources.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
That is.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Fucking wild.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
That's crazy. Dollars to donuts. Would would not have expected that.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
To be real.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
No, that that is why I was dogs found him
almost instantly. And last email, can they smell pixels? They
figured how to smell pixels?

Speaker 4 (19:03):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
It's like tron yeah, right. Last emails from listener Judge E. S.
Rose aka Miss Rose Marie NYC in a new segment
we like to call judges chambers.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Are you gonna put the gun gung?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
I'm from some kind of gavel, I guess, she.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Writes, how do we not have a lily theme song?

Speaker 4 (19:26):
I what could it even be?

Speaker 3 (19:29):
I the sound of chaos?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
What is the sound of I'll find the sound of chaos,
of even the futures sound of chaos? Three two one.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I was gonna suggest like the sound of like a
fork and a blender.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Right, let's do the fork in the garbage disposal.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Ding ding ding ding ding, ding ding ding ding ding Ding.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Rose writes in an email, tolled gay back to my
annoying weekly emails.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Bah ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I had the same token white experience at a Sweatshop
Boys show a few years ago.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Good times. I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I didn't know either, didn't didn't even google it Sweatshop Boys.
But I'm saving Rose. Another email is a hip hop group. Wow,
well there you go about me. It's uh, you know
riz Ahmed the actor. Yeah, it's his rap group.

Speaker 4 (20:29):
He was a rapper. He was a rapper before he
was an actor.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
Did not know that?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, rappist actist. Rose says, I was cooking dinners. Let's
let's hear the AI translate that I was cooking dinner
whilst listening to the EPP and I made chicken with
panco l o ls. I'm afraid James Mattio is not

(20:57):
Max cassella Vinnie from Dougie How, nor is he Josh
Savino Saviano the guy from the Wonder Years, who was
also not Marilyn Manson as a kid. Do all Goomba
Italians look the same to you, sir? Hmm?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, viv, Okay, it's for yourself.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Okay, listen, a couple of issues here.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
I'm listening. Yeah, I already know, I already know the
punchline to this.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
So yes, I, for my entire life thought that the
kid from Newsy's was also the kid from Dougie Houser.
Turns out not the case. The kid from Newsy's is
James Mattio and the kid from Dougie Hauser is Max Casella.
Except James Mattio guest starred on an episode of Doogie Houser.

(21:47):
And so when I went to check my source, my
my theory, I saw dougiy Hauser on his IMDb and
was just like, Yep, here we go, and did not
look to see that it was only one episode.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
So also what with the face blindness?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Also what with the face blindness? Speaking of this is
Rose not me speaking of. Remember when Chris Cuomo said
Fredo was a slur? Oh my own, what a fucking
stunad So.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
Do you remember when yes, and fuck that guy?

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah, So not only did he say it was a slur,
he said it was like the Italian version of the
end word, perhaps the worst slur.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Hard to believe he got kicked out from his fucking
journalism job.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
What journalism with.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
With takes like that? There's anchor job. I guess journalism.
That's that's a stretch.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Also, speaking of slurs, did you hear that there's a
brand new slur for AI?

Speaker 4 (22:51):
Oh god, no, which which is clanker.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
So in the in context you'd say, oh, don't you
hate it when you call for customer service and a
clanker answers clanker.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
So do you remember the movie I Robot with Will
Smith which we saw together?

Speaker 4 (23:13):
Actually I didn't know, No, he didn't because I watched
it on TV.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
No, was who was that with it?

Speaker 4 (23:18):
I thought I was. I was seeing a simple plan.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
Oh, there we go makes all the sense of the word.
But the the the slur that they use for the
the robots, the AI robots is Canner.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Canner's pretty good too, So this is we're getting.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I feel like clanker is in something else in uh
In Blade Runner it's skin job, which I know is
not relevant to AI because they don't have skin, but
I like I like skin job for reports.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
They don't have skin yet. But don't worry, we're just
hurdling as fast as we can into obliviate at this point.
So it's like knows and you know what. The first
thing we're gonna do, it's gonna be like an autonomous gun.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Yeah, that just makes the decision that shoots clankers.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, no, that the clanker shoots, not clankers other slurred things. Yeah,
as they are controlled by the government.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
This is definitely I gotta get cut out of the podcast.
Did you see today? That was a long bleep? And
then we have to come back with what with the
war crimes? Also applicable, also applicable. It's it's sad, but
also applicable. Uh So, Rose continues, I thought you were
gonna say Olivia's I don't like Triangle's line was nuts

(24:37):
because a girl has spent like twenty years pining for
a married man, arguably get your own house in order, ma'am.

Speaker 4 (24:44):
Also true.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
So okay, here's a behind the scenes question. When a
movie or show is filming a fake set for a
show within the show, like the Napoleon thing in this show,
which lol. Do they just like turn the cameras around
and film their own set, like are we seeing the
svupa's run around? Or do they have to make a

(25:08):
whole separate, fake thing that would be annoying.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
And that's actually a very good question.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
I'll answer the question, and then we'll go on to
the next the next thing.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yes, the next thirty five minutes of this mailbag episode.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Because a lot of paperwork has to be filled out
whenever you are on camera. Most of the time extras
are specifically from like Central casting, especially if they are
like doing something very like like if if it's more
than an ex, if it's ever more than an extra,
that it's like definitely someone who is like hired to

(25:44):
do it. Are they using the same gear potentially, right,
they might have some dummy gear just so that the
extras don't break it. But there are rare occasions where
there needs to be like one person doing a thing
that is very specific, where they will use someone from
the crew. So I'll tell you about my friend Seth.

(26:05):
My friend Seth was a cinematographer for the Conan O'Brien program, Okay's.
He was the director of photography. And so the show Kidding,
The Jim Carey Show has a an episode where his
character Jeff Pickles goes on Conan and sings a little
song and then the camera cuts the like kidding camera

(26:29):
cuts to the audience, which is filled with people from
Central Casting, right, very particulously placed, and they're all like
singing along with this song. Right, So when the actors
have to do something specific, you get him from Central casting.
But in the foreground is the Conan's camera operator, which
is just seth. So they like what happened was Conan

(26:52):
knew that this was that, you know, Kidding was coming
into film a scene and he's like, hey, does anybody
want to be on camera and get a at it
and get some money? And says like sure, And so
in very rare occasions they just like use the person
standing there, but it's it. They wouldn't ever do it
on like a large scale because then where the who's

(27:14):
getting anybody coffee?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Right? It's like no, no, no, you don't understand.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
They all have jobs, jobs, second jobs now And if
you are like super you know, it's called like featured extra,
but it doesn't really like mean anything different than extra extra.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
You don't you only get like two hundred bucks.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
It's not it's not like a crazy amount of money,
but it's not nothing. Yeah, it's not zero. But if
you speak that then then goes, that's.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Where that's why you try to steal those lines.

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Just yeah, yeah. He's like, hello, my name is Seth Color.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
You're good, Seth, Seth Saint Vincent here over and out,
and Rose finishes up Jesus Christ, I would like a
discussion corner on weapons, please, And she includes five cans
of soup for her family by the Gladys in like
thirty five years probably.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
Hell yeah, Rose, You're so stupid. Rose. Yeah, so, uh
you I recommended.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yes, full, full throatdly. Uh guys, and I loved it.
Probably gonna go back and we're probably gonna go end
up seeing it again in theaters for a second you
because we think it'll hit separate, second, hit differently the second.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Time, potentially, Yes, I you you did not. I didn't
love it. I didn't dislike it. They were like slow.
There were a lot of I don't know if slow
is even the right word. There are a lot of
things to really love about it. The cinematagy, like the
craft of it all is very very good. The cinematography,

(28:54):
the acting is really incredible. Everything is great, uh from it.
From a technical standpoint, there's.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
One everyone's in focus.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Everyone's in focus, there's one pretty dodgy visual effect choice
that that people seem to be complaining about.

Speaker 4 (29:11):
The gun over the house.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, that one is a So it's a it's.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
A it's a choice.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
Who can say is that enough to like derail the whole?

Speaker 2 (29:23):
But I feel like the movie would have been So
this is from the director of Barbarian, and it has
this is kind of a spoiler, not really and has
a similar It winds up having a similar tone to Barbarian,
which is like, it is funnier than the trailers make
it out to be.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, there is definitely a whole lot more humor, but
I mean it's it's there's enough. There's enough humor in it.
But I wouldn't qualify it as a horror comedy. It's
like a it's not like an evil dead.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
To not like a Goofball, And I really like that dark, dark,
very very dark comedy. So I let me pitch you
a different version of the movie. Okay, I'm gonna do
this spoiler free. So the movies split up into six

(30:19):
segments Magnolia style, but unlike Magnolia, it doesn't intercut. It's
just you see all the segments one one after another.
I thought that Julia Garner's segment was very good and
the Brolin's segment was not quite as good but very

(30:43):
necessary to the plot, and Alden ahn reich His segment
was very good but less necessary to the plot. So
I would have liked to have combined those into like
the first half of the movie. They are the first
half of the movie, but I didn't. I wouldn't need
the delineation, just like, do an ensemble thing with them,

(31:07):
go back and forth so it's not so so rigid.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
And then.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Hard cut in the middle of the movie and everything
else is from the the boy who lived point of view,
and then we we get the rest of the story
from that storyline. So I felt like the the the
benett Wang, and uh the junkie kid whose name I

(31:37):
don't know. I felt like those segments were sort of
treading water, even though they were made well, and I
wasn't like, God, what on board? I was like, ultimately
didn't like add anything for me?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Well, I mean the I mean I didn't mind this.
I liked it like that. It's like just I mean,
that's that's the way to that's a way to do it. Uh,
I guess it would Yeah, and I think that you
it wouldn't necessarily change because again I mean.

Speaker 4 (32:09):
Yeah, this is well, actually it would change some stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
But like you could you could do of there's a
very pivotal benedictu w loong scene that you could just
do in one of the other segments. I'm just trying
not to spoil anything.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Right, No, I know the one you're talking about, but
that like getting the to the junkie and the coping
the pieces around the board. Yes, I mean if you
did it from the kid's perspective, that's less that's less interesting.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Oh see, to me, that's more interesting.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I also thought, I mean, I don't mind a long movie,
and I don't mind you know, horror movies that sort
of buck the structure traditionally of a horror movie. But
I felt like it didn't need to quite be as
long as it was.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
I think it's like twelve.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
It's yeah, it's like two and two end and change.
But I thought, you know, lose trim a little. And
I also think that that's sort of what happens when
you are called a genius after your first movie and
everyone's like you can do no wrong.

Speaker 4 (33:19):
I have.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
I think it will be it won't have the staying
power of Barbarian I don't. I don't think. So I
could be wrong. I've been I'm wrong so often, so
who knows.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
I mean, I time will tell, I think because it
is like that, Okay, the very.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
The very end, not the very very end because I
didn't like that, which is the whole nother thing.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
But the very end, yes, both hilarious and horrifying at
the exact same time.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
And just lop that last scene off.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Agreed.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Yah, it's just substituted with something something right. I don't
think you need the Day new Mont because you don't
even get it right. It's like pretending to be a
Datamont and it's not.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Yeah, it's a bit like watching the top Spin at
the end of Inception and then it moves a little bit.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
You're like, oh, oh uh, yeah, so that's Those are
my Those are my spoiler free thoughts on weapons. I
will also give it another watch and it You know,
there are movies, especially movies that like are not what
I'm expecting sometimes, just like the gap between what I'm
expecting and what I get causes some friction and then
I like come around to them later.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, and you know what. And it's also could be
like I could watch it a second time and be like,
you know what. I was just I was so excited
for this movie that I needed to sit down and
watch it a second time, which which could I doubt
it will happen.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
But and I have never seen Julia Gardner in anything
other than The Silver Surfer, and so I thought that
she never watched those k No, I never watched those arks.
But oh wow, I know that the TikTok sound of
if you'll have to fucking kill me or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
she I thought that she was. She was pretty uh,

(35:05):
pretty pretty great in the actor another gripe that I
had once again, not everything needs to be tied up
in a perfect little bow. But there's like a lot
of talk of her Julia Gardner's characters like passed indiscretions,
and then they're just like nah, she doesn't even have
a final moment with Josh Brolin.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
It's just like, nah, I don't. I mean, it's okay,
it's okay, but it didn't bother you.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
It really didn't. I mean that feels a little nit.
I mean sure, like like like would you like it
didn't didn't bother me at all. I love there was
that maybe this is a bit of a spoiler, but
not really. There is a a surprise, at least to me.
It was a surprise appearance by June Diane Rayfield.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, yeah, I always great.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah, And I was just like, oh shit.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah, I know she was in this, especially because the
way it's shot, You're like, wait a minute, is that
June Dian rayw.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
It took me until the second time she was on
stream and I was like, oh, that's June because like
the other time, it's like, you don't really get a
very it is.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
It is akin to the Casey Wilson role in Gone Girl.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
We were like, is that Casey Wilson?

Speaker 3 (36:16):
Yeah, actually that's a really really good comparison. And it's
fucking great.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yeah, for the two seeds, I like that quite a bit.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
She fucking eats, she rules me and I do.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
I do really like all the acting. I like, yeah,
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Gladys was particularly like I first hot second was like,
is that fucking jinkspon soon?

Speaker 4 (36:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Right, so so Gladys now that Glatdys was was great
and and so this isn't this is the one thing
I want to kind of compliment the movie about, which
is they spend a lot of time like setting up
what could possibly have done this thing where all the
children in the in the town have gone missing at

(36:57):
two seventeen am, And they spent so much time asking
the question that I started to worry that the answer
wouldn't be satisfying.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
And the answer was extremely satisfying.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Right because they're there. I like the fact that this
is as spoiler free as we could. Yeah, we're good,
We're gonna walk pretty close to the line here.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
I like the on the bleep button.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I like the fact that the movie didn't feel the
need to explain certain things, but like it didn't feel
like they were like, we're gonna spoon feed you all. Yeah,
it's going to be like and it does and ultimately
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Yeah what yeah? Like what y Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
The fact that they didn't take an extra five to
ten minutes to be like.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
So you see, this is why I need this thing, right, and.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
It's like who at the end of the day, who cares?

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
And and there's a great scene which I love scenes
like this in movies and tried to do it a
little bit in Lizzie Lazarus, where a character is acting
very strange but speaking about it as though it's normal,
and she's like, can I drink water out of a bowl?
And everyone's like what. She's like, Yeah, I just like
to drink water out of a bowl.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yeah, And she's like, you know, I know it's a
weird thing, but I don't even bother trying to justify
it anymore. I'm just weird.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, So I there's there's a whole lot to like
about it, and I think watching it again will either
make me I mean, this is very silly to say,
make me like it more or less.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
You can be dead neutral, you can no change.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
I think the bad things might like, I might like.
Not bad is also not the right word. But the
things that bothered me will go away, like they did
with Inglorious Bastard's a movie I famously really didn't like
the first time I saw it, and now I love
it or or or vice versa.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
It's gonna be yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Gonna be neither in between. Any note, Maybe, now that
you've said all these things, I'm gonna watch it again,
and that's gonna be stuck in my head and like, right, no,
it's either way, I think you would still say it's
it's a recommends c to see.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's like, yes, definitely see it, especially it's an original movie.
It's it's an an expensive but not too expense. It
was like thirty eight million dollars, so it's it's the
type of movie that we keep lamenting.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
Doesn't exist, that's on the fucking cheap.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
Yeah, it's really a million, really cheap.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's like basically all talent, right, there's no there's no huge,
big visual effects.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
I mean yeah, I mean I guess they're shooting all
on site.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
I'm guessing yeah, yeah, they may have built a couple
of those a couple of those locations.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yeah, But like, but it's the x. The exteriors of
everything is just like that's shot on location. You shut
down a small town for a weekend.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Which doesn't cost that much money, right, Yeah, So it
is the type of movie that we need to continue
making and supporting. And u an original idea from a
director who's basically only made one movie before this, and
it costs it's like a reasonable amount of money and
made its money back in the first weekend.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
So it's like and it's going to make so much money,
so much more money at the end of the day,
like hope, hopefully we'll learn the right lessons for this,
because here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
If you hard cut too, no we didn't.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
If you fund a lot of smaller budget movies and
one of them.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
Hits yep, that used to be the model, right.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
And instead of spending two hundred and twenty million dollars
on a fucking Marvel movie that's seventy five percent shot
on in a fucking warehouse in Atlanta, yeah, it still
costs you two hundred so and then another two hundred
to fucking promote it. Like why not do like a
thirty million dollar movie like this, spend fifteen promoting it,

(40:45):
and you're gonna make one hundred million easy on this.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Right, And it's and it's that that used to be
the thing is like the lotto ticket, right you you
take a chance on ten movies instead of one Marvel movie,
and you might stand to.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Me, oh wait, it makes better business sense to me.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
I think people it's the same as well.

Speaker 3 (41:03):
Unless it's also like marketing crossovers, so they get money
from that. So it's like Captain America promotes your fucking
credit card or something like.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
That, and like toys and stuff. I think, yeah, I
think the blockbuster model took over the regular models and
since the seventies, right, it just like started happening slowly,
and I mean I feel.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Like also, I also feel like it's just the continued
merging of all of these giants. Like there's there's not
that many studios or and like any of these small ones,
they're all underneath if they're like a shingle underneath, like
the big umbrellas of what like three or.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
Four Just like it's just like every glasses brand in
the country is the same company. Right, So it's like, yeah,
capitalism really does ruin everything.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I what further fucking proof do
we really need?

Speaker 4 (41:58):
And that's all the go male, it's fit good man,
but sky, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
It's could be a great episode in a real one.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
In a segment we like to call I just blew myself.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
I'm afraid I just blew myself.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
It's got to be a better way to say that.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
See, people tuned in for our thoughts on on movies.
Capitalists have been movies. Yeah, they could give a shit
about us.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
For you, speaking of not giving a shit about s
for you. Canadian correspondent Sonya Missio says, I bit my
lip through Billy Joel but could not let go that
we technically Britain, but really Canadians.

Speaker 4 (42:34):
Burnt down the White House during the War of eighteen twelve. Yeah,
thank you for it.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
I did know that about the War of eighteen twelve.
I didn't want to mention burning down the White House
because we are in a fascist state current, we're.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
In the middle of a hostile.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Also, Billy Joel rules rules with the z BJ forever
for the number four?

Speaker 3 (43:02):
Was it ever or ever?

Speaker 4 (43:04):
It was ever?

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Oh shame?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
And uh, listener Sarah Prime let me in on a
little secret that she's she's making a power point for
us about how our how our show has devolved into
complete and total madness.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Side of the Times question mark.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
Yeah, and that's all. The mail bag that fits a
mail bag was always I'm curious to see that slide down.
I think it's really necessary.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
I'm really interested in seeing this. Uh, if you're looking.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
For the reason, it's because both of our mental health
statuses have just.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
Toilet nose dived.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
And uh, if you want to get at us, where
s f you podcast on Blue Sky the official Blue
Sky of just doing a powerful.

Speaker 3 (43:51):
Yeah, why not? That's fun. What does a love putting
together a PowerPoint? I need to take that to the
back the blood Bak editor.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
This is where the story really starts
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