Episode 384 - S17E18 - Unholiest Alliance - Law and Order: Special Viewing Unit

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I'm just gonna cat fuck you. I don't need you
on this. I'll just did podcast myself. I don't need
you to do any of the editing, posting, or any
of the other things that make this podcast run. Fuck you,
I'm going I'm branched out of my own. I'm coming solo. Hello, listeners,
and welcome back to another episode of Law and or
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(00:26):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
So you don't have to watch this episode in particular
because it is terrible.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
You should watch it. I am your host, Matt Reuter,
joining me as always the mond senior of this podcast.
That's we've very signed over there. How are you doing tonight?
A eve?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
I thought the sex party was a fundraiser.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I mean, here's the thing, if leveraged correctly, that would
probably be the best fundraiser you could get.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, probably that that just narrowly beat out on the floor.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
You fill me, bitch, you have respect for your master.
I oh my god, there's another wood on? Hold on,
what accent did he have African? I think I.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Think that's like the uh.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
The continent of Afria Africa.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
You know the scene in a movie that I like
but everyone else seems to hate, The Cable Guy, where
Ben Stiller plays both of them Menendez brothers and calls
up He's like he had an Asian accent. I think
he was speaking a strange language.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
It sounded Asian. Yeah. I have never seen that movie,
but I know that line, probably because you've said it. Yes,
I don't think anyone else has. But how are you
doing tonight of ev or today? I guess it's the
afternoon you're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm doing medium. I'm you know, I'm doing Okay. Stuff
is happening, Things are thinging. But an old, an old
battle wound has uh has reared. It's ugly head. I
have like a weird bad thing with my Yeah, no,
my knee. I have a weird thing with my knee.

(02:01):
I think it's like a torn meniscus from like getting
hit by a car and my bicycle fifteen sixteen years ago.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Did you have a meniscus prepair when that happened?

Speaker 2 (02:11):
No?

Speaker 1 (02:12):
Did you do anything?

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Sure didn't. Okay, I took a tumble and then went
to class and walked it off. Yeah, I walked it
off because I was twenty five, right, Yeah, I'm invincible.
I will never die and so yeah, so like kind
of it feels like it's popping out of place periodically.
And so I I have an old knee brace that

(02:34):
I wear or wore and now I'm wearing again. But
it seems to be working. My morning walk today didn't
didn't have to stop like I did yesterday.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
So you know, okay, that's good. Are you are you
gonna go see a medical professional? You're just gonna Why
would I do that? Rub some dirt on it? And
why would I? Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You had an expert.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
We have we have these things called doctors in this country.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Holk them. Yeah, we won't have them for long thanks
to my good my good friend Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Right, Rob, Yeah, we see the problem is if the
problem is the doctors, because if we didn't have doctors,
we wouldn't have any.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Sick people, we wouldn't have any diseases.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I don't know what don't you understand about this?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
If you stop testing, the numbers go down, all right,
sweet man?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
I mean that just put me in a state. I mean, no,
I'm I'm doing good. It's uh, yeah, I'm doing pretty good. Yeah,
we had to take uh Meg, have you had to
do this for chubbs? Have you had to do a
dental cleaning any dog that you've ever had?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I've never done that. Probably should do that, but haven't
done that.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Yeah, have never.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Don't get me started on dog dentists. Thirty too, thirty.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
They're a little down in the mouth, but it's but
the down in the snout, down in the snaw something
like that. That could be something. No, but we we've
been told that, like we needed to get it done.
We were planning to last year and then Maggie had
her neck issue and then had to have surgery on that.
So we're like, yeah, should we still do the dental.

(04:16):
They're like, no, she should heal from the next surgery
rather than do another procedure. So finally did We were
supposed to get done last month and it was the
day of and they called us. They're like, hey, don't
bring her in. Our anesthesis machine is down, so we
have to reschedule this whole thing. So it's like, okay, fine,
but by doing that they have to do blood work beforehand.

(04:38):
They're like, we have to bring you in for more
blood work, but we'll what the fuck. Yeah, they're like,
but don't worry. It's on us because you know what
with the machine being broken. So we finally went in
and got her dental think none. They had to take
out six teeth, which I guess is I don't know
what the over under is on these things. But so
she's a little bit of pain kind of. So she's
on some loopy pain meds here. She's already not the

(05:01):
most short footed, so it's it's both funny and sad
at the same time. When you're drunk. Yeah, it's kind
of the drunk dog situation. But but she's doing okay. Uh.
And also on other medical related I don't know what
I did, but I I feel like I have somehow
permanently gotten water in my earpiration and I can't It's

(05:25):
it's not that I can't hear anything, but it's just
everything's very muffled out of in my right ear. And
I'm like, I was literally in the shower and I
just did like a little scratch and on the inside
there I was like, oh, I had a little little
itch there, and then I took my you know, removed
my finger, and I was like, well, what the fuck
is this?

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Is it blood or was it wax?

Speaker 1 (05:45):
No, there was nothing other It's just my hearing like
when I kind of scratch and then the hearing just
like stopped. I was like, well, what the what the
fuck is happening here?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
I'm about to start sound like rfk's hawking my weird
medical treatments. But I get this a lot. I've i've
uh congenitally hereditary, hereditarily poor drainage.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
All right, So what what advice do you have?

Speaker 2 (06:07):
So I think that doctors don't really do this anymore.
Q tips bad.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Everyone pushes pushes, pushes it in.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
So when this happened to me, when I was like
a teenager maybe early college, they have these giant syringes
that aren't they don't have needles in them, but they
just have like a tip that when you put water
in it, it like sprays the water out. And so
I keep one in the shower and when I get

(06:36):
like impacted wax and it feels like there's constantly water
in my ear, you just you fill up a cup
with like a glass with kind of warmish water, not
warmish warm water, and then you just suck up the
water in the syringe, just stick it in your ear
and and it feels so fucking weird. But you can

(06:57):
hear when the wax like goes away way, it just
like you have superhering for a few days.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Oh you know what, I will have to go out
and because I was considering.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Going to the doctor right aid and stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, that sounds like a real over the counter type
of situation.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
I was.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I guess I was like, well, what the fuck do
you what do you do? It's I mean, because you know,
it's ear wax leaveing, it's like a natural process. Hence
why you don't do the YouTube thing, because then you
just make that shit worse. So it's like, you know,
it's got a natural thing. But I was like, I mean,
seeing a like a E n T specialist like that,

(07:36):
they're gonna like a even if I could get it,
it's like that they're not going to schedule an appointment
within the next couple of weeks at best. So I'm like, well,
that's not gonna fuck it. I'm not gonna deal with
this for the next how for many weeks, I keep
just hoping it's gonna go away on its own. And
it Yeah, it's gotten a little better, but not much.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
As an ear infection expert, you will either fix yourself
or make yourself much much worse.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
I really thought that it was like I have not
had an ear infection since I was like a child.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Oh man, I I don't have them that often, but
I used to have them constantly. Really, it's like a as,
like a team.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Even I feel like a similar So I feel like
my sister always has a sinus infection. Like every time
I talk to sinus infection, that was my as.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
That was you too.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah, I was gonna say so it was just like,
you know, I guess I dodged a bullet on that
type stuff, but instead I got diabetes. So it's not
really a fair trade, like like the annoying things. It's like, oh,
poor drainage, and and s's like it's like, uh, well,
chronic disease that will probably kill me young. So you
know your strukes and gutters, you win something loose some.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's interesting because you're almost forty, Like, how you this
thing's gotta get get working.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
I didn't. I didn't. I don't know. I don't know
how I made it this far. I'm just I'm just
not asking questions and just barreling through here.

Speaker 2 (08:59):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
And now that that's out of the way, on to
the main event where we're gonna be viewing VWING Season seventeen,
episode eighteen of sv you entitled On the Holiest Alliance,
and we're gonna do that right after this. Then we're
back and as we said before, we're gonna be viewing
and all you're having like an existential crisis, right, because
how are we gonna describe it?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
So much of this, so much happens, and also so
little happens.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Right, that's capital So that's like my days at work
where it's just like meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting. I feel
like I've done so much and yet somehow.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Somehow, so very little. Yeah, nothing has gotten done.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
But like we said, we're gonna be viewing and reviewing
Season seventeen, episode eighteen entitled On the Holiest Alliance. Just
a reminder to our listeners, all the episodes are available
to like watch as of now as of time of recording.
Who still exists on Hulu and Peacock. I don't know
in the future if you're listening to this, so I
don't know, recommend watching the episode before you hear it.

(09:55):
Break it, hear us break it down, it'll make a
little bit more sense. I like this. It's dumb as
a box, rocks don't and it's got some real I
think I'm respecting the out and out contempt it has
for its audience.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
That is that is unmistakable, is that there is out
and out contempt for the audience.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
I but I kind of respect him for doing it
because it's primetime television. They're like, we know, fuck you,
What are you gonna do about it? What are you
gonna do about it? Where you gonna go? What are
you gonna go over to the Chicago wolf sphere. You're
not gonna do that. Chicago sucks either way, You're no
matter what popatick wolfs all that money's going right in
his pocket. So you can't win. Just take the slop,

(10:35):
you pigs. You will get the slop we give you,
and you will fucking like it. Uh. And that's why
I like this week's episode out and out contempt. But
before we get into break it down, the episode, in
the grandest tradition that we have on this podcast, a Viv.
You are gonna hit us with a ninety second recap
of what happened to this week's episode. Good luck on
this one.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
No, I don't think I will Matt Aviv.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
We're gonna put Aviv. No Aviv. We're gonna put ninety
seconds on the clock. Since tell us what the fuck happened?
This makes up? So to me, she go.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Fi centering myself.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's look, it's in the pantheon of episodes. This one
can't be that.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
I was gonna say that this might be the worst episode.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Oh my god, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Come on, maybe I've blocked out the really bad ones. Okay,
you guys, slow mo, black and white, freeze frames, boom pack,
you know that we're in a flashback, all right, Finn's back.
It turns out Tucker is still fucking being railroaded for
this priest thing, and Olivia's is on on the transfer trade.

(11:47):
It seems like she's at the community Affairs unit, but
she like never actually goes there. She's just like derelicted
her duty. So Chief Dodd says, ours is not the
reason why, but you're your cop, okay whatever. The archdiocese
has an air tight alibi, all covering each other's backs,

(12:09):
saying that the crooked cops from last week informed Tucker
about the underage sex slave ring that definitely wasn't wink
wink run by the church, and that they have all
these like handwritten letters to and from the police to
to prove that with it, which are like dated at

(12:31):
the top. And it is so stupid that not a
single they're They're okay, they're their alibi is so unbelievably
stupid that not a single cop would ever be stupid
enough to believe it. Oh wait, there's Sunny Careesi. I like,

(12:54):
I'm a lawyer. At one point of the episode, I'm like,
wait he believes them anyway. Cisternina, We're still in the
fucking intro. Sisternina is on the run, gets run off
the road by a van. Some some hooded figure comes
up to the van. She does not react at all,
and so they find the van and they also find

(13:18):
this girl Natalie that was with Cisternina, who got like
hot shotted again just like Carl Kara Carla from last week.
And so Sisternina dead doesn't even have a line in
the fucking episode. Dead, raped, then killed, and uh, and
so they are the SPUs instructed to not okay, to

(13:42):
not investigate because I there's like a there's like a
higher level IAB that looks like the tribunal from nineteen
eighty four, and they're taking care of this shit. But okay.
But then Dodds is like, Okay, my dad told us
not to not to investigate this, but that doesn't mean

(14:03):
that we can't get all these people's alibis and then
start investigating that. And and we need a we need
a judge to sign off on the warrant to run
all of these priests financials. And someone's like, oh, there
was a judge at the sex party. I'm like that,
now you're leveraging the fucking jut Oh my god. And

(14:24):
so it turns out father, oh fuck again, Eugene is
he Tucker's cousin, but he's also fucking this guy whose
definite real name is Lance Woodstone, who's like a who's
like a daddy dom but also somehow doing pilates with him.

(14:45):
And there's like a menora in the corner of his loft.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Wait, is there really I didn't see that.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
There are two manoras on either side of one on
either side of the of the loft that he pays
for with U funds and the and Lance Woodstone has
another girlfriend who has a husband named Heidi Aronson, who
is a real estate broker, and he's like, she's a lawyer,
and she's like, I'm not a lawyer, and so but like, also,

(15:15):
none of this stuff is criminal. He's just like, fucking
a dude, who cares. I mean, he's stealing from the church.
That's that is a criminal. But that is a crime.
But but the other stuff is who cares. We're going
backwards and so uh it it turns out they they
honey trap Eugene and he still is like, I was
not involved in any crime, nor was any one that
I know with and Carasey finally is like, you know,

(15:37):
I think this priest is lying, and so the fucking
so they they they stay. They the church cuts Eugene loose,
and they implicate Eugene and Tucker together and so eight uh,
the young Dodds is like, well, we're fucked. I don't know,
we're either're cutting everybody loose. We're just we're just kind
of fucked on this one. We should probably give up.

(16:00):
And DoD Senior is like, good job Son, and Corezy
does not want to give up, so he goes to
confront Father Eugene and is like, God is still here
with you. He'll forgive you for what you did to
those kids as long as you testify, And Father Eugene's like,
do you mean it? It's a real mooke off. They
just like are mooking each other off, and then really find.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Are you serious, Clark. It's like, you'll forgive you if
you testify. You're serious?

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Clark? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Is that what's happening?

Speaker 2 (16:33):
What? So then Eugene tells them about where the bodies
are buried figuratively not literally. There is something buried, but
it's just giant tougher wears full of photos. And then
the show's really trying to wrap this up, so they
have this around the horn that where Rollins is like, wait,
why would they take photos of themselves doing this crime?

(16:54):
And Barbera's like, well, because they, like, I don't know,
they fucking like it. And Rollins is like, but why
would they marry them? And and why would they why
would they do this to the girls. He's like, oh
they what power of the girls? It's like, well, why
would they why would they bury them Creese like, stop
fucking asking fucking questions, Bromanda, none of this makes sense.

(17:15):
We're just trying to get out of here and get
out of this last fucking thing. And then they they
catch the father Akintola, who had one line in the
last week's episode, has one line in this week's episode,
coming back to JFK, and he's like, I'm an entirely
different man. He's playing the all black men look alike
to white people thing where he's like, I'm from Nigeria,
father Akinola is from Cameroon. I'm father of blogie. And

(17:39):
they're like, yeah, fucking right, Montage Montage, Montage, Montage Montage,
and uh and then uh, you know, the Vatican recalls
the bishop who has one line and uh lives an
alcoholic and science and and our final images creesy just
like praying in silence. Yeah, well, this episode makes no

(18:00):
fucking sense.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
And here's the thing. It's unapologetic about that.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, it is a runaway train of nonsense.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
It's again it's a script of escalating dares.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
That is extremely true.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
That it really does feel like it's one of those
writing exercises where it's like, all right, the first three pages. Yeah,
it really is kind of a tyreentul It's because it's
like the bishop who has one line where he's like
called by secretary to set something up, and then it's
the fucking guy from the Is he from the.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Sopranos, No, he's I looked it up. He's from Goodfellas.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Okay, well I mean.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Vincent he plays Billy Bats and Goodfellas.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh yeah, I was gonna say, like Gangster Royalty on
screen and he has one No, he has two lives.
He has that line and then he's like, we call
on the FEDS to come in and clean this shit up.
It's like, I don't think you can just do fts?

Speaker 2 (18:51):
And also how are they so sure that the FEDS
won't absolutely catch them.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
Because they think they're untouchable. But it's also like, so
wait a second, So this my senior asshole just gets
up in front of the present, is like we think
the NYPD is corrupt, and that's basically it's just he's
just like everyone else sucks but us, and we've never
done anything. We're hanging our lives. It's like, do you
really think anyone is going to fucking believe anything you
have to do?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
I mean, I also believe that the NYPD is corrupt
and they can't do anything right for their for their
fucking lives.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
It's like, but it's like eventually whenever that story comes
out where it's like, oh, okay, so, then the press
is gonna go and ask the NYPD some questions, and
whenever they say everything that happened, they're gonna be like, oh,
so the so the church, So the church is providing
the girls. Then, so that guy accusing you of doing
something's probably because he's doing something. It's the classic, it's

(19:47):
the classic Conservative Every accusation is a confession.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yes that So that is a thing that I wanted
to bring up in this episode, is like he's doing
the the Trump thing of accus people of doing what
he's doing before they get a chance to arrest him
for it.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Right. It's just and it's the fact that they they
treat the n wife. Everybody in the show actually treats
it like, Wow, what a master stroke of gameplay. Now
everyone's untouchable. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Just even if Tucker was dirty, that doesn't mean that
they're all Everyone is implicated in this Everyone is still implicated.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
This is about something else in the show, but I
think it it is representative of the episode as a whole.
Live says they've got us chasing a Trojan horse, which
is absolutely not what happens with a Trojan horse at
no point.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
It defeats It defeats the purpose of the Trojan horse.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
The thing about Trojan horses.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Live, are you familiar with the story at all? You
thought that in the story, the Greeks saw the Trojan horse.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
And then we're like, get it. And then the.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Trojans were like hiyah, and they drew them out of
the city, and that's how they took it. Yeah, is
that is that how you think that went down? Olivia
is not well versed in the classics. You know why
the condoms are called trojan.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Right, because you'll never see it coming.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
That's only their camouflage. But like you understand, right, So
when a dude puts a condom, puts a trojan condom on,
then what do you send him running into the night
and you have to catch him a fuck him, which
if that's what you're into, you know, go forth.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
That's why Tucker, that's why she likes Tucker. He's holding slow.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Look there there would be worse ways to spend a
weekend night than doing that. But you know, I just
I don't understand why. But why why did you say that?
It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
It does when you remember that the show hates its audience.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I mean, right, that's that phrase is gonna get a
lot of work tonight.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
The show hates its audience.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Yeah, but it's kind of it's hilarious though. It is
like it's so bad you have to just laugh at
it because it's like, okay, we're doing that.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Acis for sure.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I love it. I love it so much again. It why.
It's like the scene where Tucker, which is we get
the flashback of everything that we talked about last week
and fucking Tucker being interviewed. Well, that doesn't open it
that the tribunal.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Oh my god, I got we got Okay, let's just
let's just get into it.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
And it opens in the squadroom and Finn is there
and it's like they tried to edit him into last
week's episode. He's like, I've always been sitting what yeah,
what happened? Yeah? He doesn't, he's just he's already up
to speed and he like pipes up he's like.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Oh, I can't come back. That's messed up, right.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
It's like, why wasn't he in last week's.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Episode because I don't know it was full.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Okay, but well he's he's back. I feel like, well,
we no longer have lived there. We need one more
person in the unit to make.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
And so Chief Dods is there and reminds the squad
to not ask any questions about about why Olivia isn't
there anymore, saying that she has been recused because of her.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
No, that's not Chief Dods, that's regular Does, that's sergeant.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
They're both together. They're they're like standing side by side.
Because because someone accuses younger Dodds of like basically like
stepping into sitting on and lives still warm toilet seat.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, I don't think that. I don't. I think you
have that mixed up.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
But maybe so, uh. The younger Dodds says that Live
has recused herself or has been recused because of her
relationship would Tucker. But like, I don't think that that's
how recused, Like I think you don't. I don't think
someone recuses you. You recuse yourself, right.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Right, So in this case, it's she's been reassigned due
to her involvement with Tucker. Yeah, that's that's what it
should have been.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
So it actually that's actually not true. You can recuse
someone else. The recusing is just challenging someone as unqualified
to perform their duties. Ah. But I've literally never heard
it as referred to as anything other than recusing one's self.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
But sure, yeah, okay, I learned something to every day.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
I didn't know that, just like you, you don't ever
really hear the term uncanny about things other than things
looking like other things, even though that's not what uncanny means.
Uncanny just means like spooky.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
M Yeah, I guess thinking about that.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
The resemblance is uncanny just means the resemblance is spooky, right, spooky.
So then we go into Tucker's police tribune. All so
set the scene for us, Matt.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
It's basically you know those scenes in v for Vendetta.
I was just a bad like whatever. It's just super
dark and the evil people are sitting there and they're
just barely illuminated, yes, correct, and they're just like, so, Tucker,
you're running all these kids, huh. And he's like, you
guys are so fucking stupid. Don't you think the first

(25:33):
thing that people that are doing something wrong is gonna
be like, I'm not wrong, you're wrong, and they're like, well, yeah,
but you know are you?

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I truly don't even know what happens in this scene
because there are also like cameras pointed at him, and
then the video screens behind Tucker are showing other angles
of Tucker.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Which it's like, why it's a weird visual, but yeah,
Tucker basically is just like okay, he just gives a
rundown of everything that was happening. It's like they're dirty,
that's why they're accusing me. The one priest, Eugene is
my cousin, so I can't say there's not nothing personal
going on there. And they're like, well what about the

(26:16):
Bud Senior and the fucking other guy. It's like, it's like,
so the dirty cops and the guys that we're accusing
of run of the sex ringer are now accusing me
of running the sex ring and none of you.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Are like doesn't sound weird to you, right.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
And your reaction is to believe them over me.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Interesting, Tucker does something equally dumb when he says have
you talked to sister Nina Kelly, she will corroborate my story,
and I'm like, Smash cut to I don't think she
will because obviously the last time you two saw each.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Other, Yeah, you set her fleeing from the room.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, she thought that you were in on it, and
to the point where she nearly chucked a baby out a.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Window, which again heads up, play good good play in
the moment. You can't teach that good ball, I Q. Yeah.
So then yeah, Smash go to sister Nita is ripped
throwing clothes in a bag and takes her crucifix off.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
The wall and got to bring my crucifix with me.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right, And then we cut to her in a car
where she got this car I don't know find out
and she's picking up is this who is this? This
is someone named Kara?

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Kara is dead Natalie who is like Kara but not dead.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Did we meet her last episode?

Speaker 2 (27:37):
We may have in passing, but she was not an
important character because I also thought that we.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
So we're treating this character like we should know her,
with the urgency and everything like that, but we correct,
we don't.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Okay, yep, because the cause, as as said before, this
episode hates.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
The audience correct, and we then follow sister Nina driving
up the who fucking Knows Where cut to Live, waiting
for Barbara to hit his mark so she can jump
out from behind a fucking tree. Yes, thank you, and
so she told me. She's like, Barbara, it's like, what

(28:15):
the fuck, Like, don't don't sneak up on people like that?
What the fuck are you doing? And Barbara's like Live,
you know I can't talk to you, right. She's like,
let me tell you what happened, mister Sowen. So you've
ranted me out and now girls are being trafficked or something.
He's like, you do understand if Tucker's you can't, you

(28:36):
have to tell. If you are fucking the person that's
doing the investigating, it looks bad. You probably should have
said something. So, uh, you know, that's kind of on
you man.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
This is where Live says they've got us chasing a
trojan horse, which is once again not how that works.
Not how that works. So uh, Nina calls Olivia and
is like, call the cops off, tell them I'm leaving
town and that they don't have to kill me. So
very clearly, Nina still thinks that Olivia and Tucker are

(29:10):
in on this, but also I understand that she's desperate,
but like, if they're coming to kill you, like she
can see the van behind her, I don't think you
being like, oh, we're leaving town, so you don't have
to come and kill me. We'll do much of anything.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Right unless the day it's like I'm gonna hang up now,
please then call the person that's in the van to
have them stop. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Instead, the van rams her off the road and she
just like sits there.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
It didn't look like that bad of an accident, to
be honest. She's got like a little bit of a
bloody head.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
The airbag went off, and I'm assuming we're supposed to
think that she is unconscious in shock. Her eyes are
definitely open.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
That I got. She's just in fear. Like it's just
like the I don't know, fight flight or freeze kind
of thing, because we get a shadow we figure or
approaching the window, but the shot is set up in
such a way that you can only kind of see
the top of their head that's like a hat on
and uh.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
But she doesn't react when the when the person like
arrives at the window, so maybe she is supposed to
be knocked out. I don't really know. You didn't blink,
did you?

Speaker 1 (30:21):
It's fine if you do, you just have to tell you.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
You just have to tell me. Maybe one of my favorite,
maybe my favorite all time bit that we've ever done.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
But yeah, the blink bit, that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
So so, uh, Olivia meets up with Tucker, a thing
that she definitely shouldn't be doing, and she's like.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well, talker's just on a smoke break from his interrogation.
She approaches him like outside he's just like crushing a butt,
and then she's like, all right, what's going on? How's
it going on there? He's like it, fuck, it sucks.
How's your take going? And this is where she's like, yeah,
we can't find her. Sister called me spooks, So uh,
watch your ass because I think if they're coming for her,

(31:04):
they're gonna try to kill you. He's like, thanks for
the heads up, I guess, like that would be pretty
pretty brazen if Tucker just gets gone, Like what would
they do if Tucker just gets gunned down? Like what
would the cops be?

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Like?

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Oh shit, well if.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Oh fuck, well, I mean intern maybe maybe he was
writing warfare. No, they wouldn't. They wouldn't for a second,
they would that up. They would oh well, they would
do like a Dodds or We're like, oh, that was
that's convenient. So he's got Tucker leaves, He's like, uh,
more questions about me and my cousin Eugene and uh

(31:41):
and then Carreese is interviewing Monsignor mul Reagan, where he's like,
last year, March fourteenth, pie day. Yeah, I sent a
letter to the cops about the the undercover undercover involvement
into or like what what was happening to our girls

(32:02):
at Saint Fabiola's, And you know, got forwarded to Ed Tucker,
and Crazy's like, do you have a copy of the
email or letter that you say? He's like, oh, I
write by hand and and very big at the top
it says March fourteenth, twenty fifteen, and Greece's like, yep,
that's last March.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
It's very convenient that that date was highlighted. And then
those little like page markers where it's like sign here
was also on that like as you could clearly see here,
detective fucking idiot. I was like, wait a second.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
So Panama papers them or something Pentagon papers them.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh, I see, I was just like creasy. That didn't
stand out to you at Like you the man has
an iPhone. It's not like he's a complete luddite like
and so you're like, yeah, this guy never sends emails
at all.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Well old priest, right.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
But he's not he's not in like, he's not amish.
Yeah right, it's like, what's the I know, like, cares
you should be recused for the fact that this is
a fact that he believes it, yes, and the fact
that Dodds isn't like okay, so he told you that
and you didn't. You didn't and you believe in that

(33:16):
went off, but none of your colleagues were like, I
don't know carese that's kind of fucking dumb. If you
if you really believe it, Like I've got a fucking
bridge to sell you if that's the case.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
And and so we then go into the interrogation with
the crooked cop and his lawyer, with Finn and the
crook cops like I have a meeting with Ed Tucker
on my calendar that I printed out for you from
March sixteenth, twenty fifteen. I'm like, this is a little
too much evidence.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
It's very very neat.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah, it's and I so the they have been instructed
to sort of drop this, and Dodds Junior is like
basically following in Olivia's footsteps and running the shadow investigation,
trying to punch holes in the Tucker case, which is
the a theory of the case. The number one theory

(34:13):
of the case is that Tucker is in on this,
but they're trying to punch holes in it. Not because
they're they're looking for justice, but because they like Olivia.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Yeah, and again they keep they're they're talking so much
about actually no, not even so much. It's only mentioned
a couple of times that this episode is completely focused
until the last minute and a half of the episode
on just the the corruption and saving our intrepid detectives'
asses here. And they occasionally bring up but the girls,

(34:45):
these girls are.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Being definitely they.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Give zero fucks about these girls, except for the last,
like I said, minute and a half where it's like
the montage of the grand jury of the kids being
like and then the priests against our will.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
So like this is what a typical SVU episode would do,
would be like go look for some other people who
maybe left Saint Fabiola's and talk to them and like
none of that shit happens in this episode.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
I mean, they have one other scene with the girl
that Od's that was in the car with uh.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
But she she's like they said, don't talk or else
something like what happened to sister Nina? What happened to me?
And then they don't really have any follow up questions
after that. So they're looking for sister Nina still and
she had a burner phone, so it doesn't have GPS. Okay, whatever, But.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
I again, I don't think that's how that works.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
But Dodds like pulled up string and triangulated a cell
tower or whatever else.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
And wait here question question in the bag. If you're
saying that the phone is not not capable, like the
technology isn't there, it doesn't exist, Like if we have
sniffing dogs, they wouldn't be able to find costs the dogs,
the port stiffic dogs and they with like they that
technology that would admit that smell doesn't exist in this

(36:08):
in this photo. Okay, so that's that's what you said. Yeah,
so how did you then find it?

Speaker 2 (36:13):
I pulled I pulled some strings.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Okay, thank you for clarifying.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Why it's so pointless too, Why not just say, oh,
we tracked, I.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Just just say that, like who the fuck? Like that?
That back and forth, by the way, was better journalism
that we have today in climate. Yes.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
So they they they track her phone not using the
GPS to Yonkers, Yonkers, and they find this mini van
that she was driving, and they and this.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Which also it looks like it looks like someone backed
into it, like in terms of like this big car crashes.
It was funny in the sea where like it gets
run off the road because clearly they's have the camera
set up and it's just a big pile of leaves
and then it's something yeah. Yeah, And so it's definitely
something soft faith.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Just as someone who had to do that in a
thing I you're not can't shit a shit her.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Yeah, it's you could see it. It's very fucking obvious.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
And so there are no there are no people in
the wreckage, but.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
They there's drag marks.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
There are drag marks. Yeah, And and they track the
license plate of it to another priest, but an episcopal
priest named.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Father episcopals, yeah, I mean named.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Father Joseph Lahey and they talked to Lahy and he's like, yeah, yeah,
I gave her. I gave her my mini van because
I do anything for her, anything for her. By the way,
I left the Catholic church because I fucked a nun.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I think that's the best part where Careese's like, all right,
so you're an Episcopalian, like a bit of a fuck you,
But so you were Catholic and then you became Episcopalian. Sir,
you're going the wrong direction, but.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
You know what, you're going the wrong direction, but.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
You know what, seemed like a nice enough guy. I'm
gonna let that slide, what with me being coreaesy and Catholic.
So you were fucking the nun. So now she's gonna
go to hell. You do realize that? Are you okay
with that? Sir? But also he's like, and she's probably dead,
so she's already there. She can't even she didn't get
the last repent you fo her on this one. In

(38:19):
all Wayted, once, sir, I will seek no justice for her,
and might God have mercy on your soul.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
But also nice SOPs. They get to they recover this
girl Natalie, who was the girl in the car with
sister Nina and and she like OD but they they
like brought her back or whatever. They hotshot at her.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Yeah, she's in the like they found her, like in
the Bronx. It's like and they're up in like fucking
yunkers at this pot. So it's like, what the fuck
happened here? So they gotta go all the way back
now to the city.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
And so they Natalie says, hey, so they like they
the guy who got me was dressed like a priest.
He was black, he had an African accent, and he
said he like filled a needle with heroin and then
it was like, don't say anything to anybody or this
will happen to you. And then he raped Sister Nina

(39:16):
and then murdered her and then made me shoot up
with heroin. So that sucked.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
Well, she starts out the governors because it's with Finn
and Rollins. Now she starts the conversation out with like, oh,
I'm assuming you're here because you found I don't know
if she says found Sister Nina's body or like, but.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
She says it got car or something.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Yeah, well, she says sister Nina.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
So I'm like, she says, yeah, did you find sister Nina? Yeah, no, she.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Says, I think you're here because you were here because
you found her. She's like and the way she says it,
it's like it implies that found her body, like recovered
her body. So that's when they're like, it's oh okay,
let's like yeah yeah. If it's like yeah, yeah, that's
that's right. Uh So who who did all of these
things that we clearly.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Know, things that we are aware of.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
And my note here was with like, well, he was
black and he had an African accent, Like that's not
specific at all, and of course it has to be
the black guy, the black the black dude, the one
black priest priest should we find out not a priest
at all?

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I guess so, just like under on, under the cover
of being a priest. So no, he was part of
their hit squad. Yeah, but he was always wearing a collar,
so he's under the undercover, undercover priest.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
But when you think about that, don't think about it
too much though, guys. So that means the Catholic Church
has on its payroll a.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Hit man, a hit squad. Yeah, sure, why not?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Why would why would the church neat that?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I wonder to set to assassinate the pope's children.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
It's fucked up, But why would you why would you
need to employ a.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
H a hired murderer And then he just confesses to
you you're absolved. So, uh, we're doing a lot of
on the street stuff. So Dodds meets up with Olivia
on the street now, and Olivia is like, father, Akinola,
let's go get him, And by get I mean you

(41:16):
go get him because I'm not a cop anymore. I guess,
but I am, But.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I am, I have not I've not been suspended. I've
just reassigned to the Women's Community Service Department, which she says,
whatever she meets with Barbara, so what you still have
a job? Are you suspended? You didn't say you'd have
to go to work, don't you? Yeah? Are you taking time?

(41:40):
That would take two seconds to put it in the episode?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Another thing that does not like could have just been
easily stated, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Like it would be believable, we would get it.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
So they're saying that all of the people from Saint
Fabiola's have gone on underground and they're not returning anyone's
phone calls, and Olivia basically is like, did you try
driving over there, and he's like, good idea, good idea,
good idea.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, She's like, just go fucking wait for him. It's
called a stakeout, like aren't you cut I'd leave for
two seconds and you guys fucking forget how to do everything.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
And they're they're also looking for Father Eugen like he's
one of the main guys that they're looking for. This
becomes important in a second. So one of them, I
don't I can't even tell him part anymore, goes over
to Saint Fabiola's and is like, hey, where's the the

(42:41):
Monsignor mul Reagan And she's like, ah, he's not here,
and it's crazy crazy. He's like, but I've been here
since nine and you said he was here, and the
and the nun is like God's plan will be unveiled
with time.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah. This was the part where she was like, oh,
you misunderstood, and so he starts asking questions like I
understand you you have questions, but we've been told by
the MONSI And this is where my note I was
just like like, fuck you episode.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
God works in mysterious ways.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Yeah, we're literally She's like, uh, yeah, he told us
to not answer any questions from anyone and uh and
then he said God's plan will be uh revealed later.
And my note here is how fucking stupid are Christians? Honestly,
it's like just uh, yeah, God works in mysterious ways,
don't question anything.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Kind of yeah, I don't. I don't think it's unique
to Catholics.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
Christians, yeahs generally.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
But the but the like the like Evangelicals I think
do it more than anyway basically anybody else.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Again, I just can't keep coming back to heretic where
it's like control is the true religion.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Control. So they also are looking.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Again it's because it's crazy. He's like, now I get it,
you know the mysterious ways at all. I'm not gonna
ask you questions. This is not suspicious at all.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
They're also looking for Father Akinola and they they are
told that he had a family emergency and he's back
in Cameroon. Cool. So yeah, Dodds, I think it is
is staking out in front of the archbishops or just
the bishop. I don't know what the I don't know
what the I think the bishop and his like compound

(44:27):
question mark and so it's like just it's just the mafia.
Now the Bishop rolls up, rolls down the window. It's
Frank Vincent Billy Bats from Goodfellas, who died the year
after this episode, and next to him is Cousin Eugene,
and they're like, we'd like Dodds is like, Bishop, not

(44:49):
cousin Eugene. Bishop, We'd like to ask you a few questions.
And then Cousin Eugene answers for him, and it says,
we have we're going to a vigil for sister Nina.
Please respect our privacy at this time or whatever, and
then they drive through the gate. When aren't they wouldn't
they bring cousin Eugene. They're like looking for him specifically, Well,

(45:15):
they found him.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
Right, they found him, Except they still believe that Tucker
is the one that's running all of these girls, despite
all evidence to the god. They're they're trying to prove
that he's not. They're trying, but they they've been told
that they.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Really they just have to get there there implicate themselves somehow, right.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
But by he's like, well, we can't investigate, but what
we can do is follow up. I'm like, isn't that investigating?
That's part of investigating is you know, meeting with people
and asking them.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
Questions, but not following up. That's a different thing. Oh well,
following up they're circling back, bumping into the top of
your inbox.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
I can't beat runk I'm driving or I'm not. I'm
not drug driving, I'm booze cruising. It's a whole different thing.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Trunk driving is illegal. I'm right, precisely.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
I don't. I don't understand what you don't get about this?
Well I don't. And she's like, well, if we fucking tried,
I guess there's nothing we can do. If that was
all you were, what'd you think that we're gonna see?
It is like, oh, well, since you asked, actually yes,
we are implicated. It all Like, what is the point
of any of this?

Speaker 2 (46:29):
But Careesy basically does that at the end of the episode.
He's just like, I invoke the Catholic on Catholic communication rule.
That means you have to tell me things.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
Because God is watching, because He lives in this building here,
so if you're in his house, he owns it. It
doesn't painty, rent or fine.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
They they realized that at all. No, they realized that
that that the church is just circling the way wagons
and they need a judge to sign off on a warrand,
but no judge will want to take on the church.
And they're like, what about the judge that we caught
at the sex party. He doesn't have additional reasons to

(47:13):
cover up this crime, and.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
The fact that Barbara's not like what the fuck are
you talking about?

Speaker 2 (47:22):
Cries what where the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
Instead like I would have very much enjoyed if Barbara
had a moment, because again, this all would have taken
two seconds. This could have been official storytelling for like
one line. And he's just like he's like like if
they all just kind of looked over at Barbara, like
oh shit, he shouldn't know about this, and he's like,
I didn't hear anything, and like walks out the room rightly.
If he does that, because that it is just like, okay,

(47:46):
now we he.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Does pretty regularly on this show, right, Like So they
go to the judge and there and they're like, we
caught you at this underage sex party. Here are the pictures,
and the judge is like, I thought it was a fundraiser.
Judge Wheeler played by David Kale, you might recognize David

(48:08):
Kale as Studebaker from The Slaughter Rule. He was in
Russian doll in poker face. Oh, and that's kind of it.
But he's like, you know, you know, listen, I understand
that you're putting the screws to me. However, if I

(48:29):
if I sign this warrant, my signature will be on
the warrant and the people who don't want me to
the people, the people who know fucked up things about me,
will know that I allowed that them, that I allowed
you to investigate them. And they're not like, why don't
you just tell us who did this stuff? And we

(48:54):
will not will cut you a deal. No, they don't
do that. They're like, get one of your judge friends
to sign the war.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
It's like, I don't think that's how that works. I'd
also like to point out that this judge in his
chambers in one of the shots, he has a gigantic
and I mean fucking gigantic portrait of oil painting portrait
of himself.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Yeah, pretty good. I wonder if.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
I, if I swear to God, I would pay any
amount of money if like, if I was an actor, like, well,
they've got they already made it. Already have it, props
already has it. I guess they could use it in
another just it's just generic judge on the wall segment somewhere.
I don't know why you would, but like I'd fucking
pay for that shit. I'd be like, as an actor,
like keep my day's pay. Just give me that I

(49:38):
want to hang, give me the portrait. I just want
that hanging above my mantle, because how funny would that be.
So Smash got back to the squad room where they
are just going through financials and they're like, Wow, this
is all very boring. Nothing's Oh what's this father Euguene.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Know, father eugen So but at this point it feels
like the law doesn't even exist. They're just it's it's
just one mob versus the other mob.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Again, Live said, at best, she's a part of the
biggest gang in New York City.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
Yeah, and so yeah, as you said that, all of
the financials are very boring. They're looking into Monsigno mul
Reagan's finances specifically, and they're like, he's got he's really
good at hiding things and careesy God love him, is like,
or he's just got nothing to hide and he's a
good man and a good priest.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
He's really hanging on to not all priests type situation.
But it's like, oh boy, but I wonder what they're
gonna do with Careesy going forward, because obviously it ends
with him in the pews like praying the full fucking
Rosary or whatever like that because of faith. His faith
is so shaken from like he works in SVU, So

(50:46):
I don't know how he I guess maybe that's how
he justifies or helps himself. Is like God works in
a serious ways. I see horrible sift shit all day.
But uh, I wonder if they're really gonna make that
that's like the right, So like I'm for gonna really
lean into that since they've they've taken a couple episodes
of him doing that anyway.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
So they they see Father Eugene's financials and that he
has a second apartment in the city that's like a
loft in the city that costs thirty five hundred a month.
And I guess that was a lot back then.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
I mean, that's that's pretty cheap for New York City.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
For now, I mean now, yeah, and and and Careesy
is flabbergasted because his salary is only twenty five hundred
dollars a month. So how is he paying thirty hundred
dollars buch for this this for this apartment if he.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Literally makes only twenty five hundred a month. I mean,
I don't know what they said his rent was on
his thing. It's like, so does he just not eat
food or does he just like he pays rent? If
that's all he.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Does, well he's getting a bunch of kickback.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
I get that, but I'm saying, like I forgot what
they said his actual rent was. He's like, he makes
twenty five hundred a month, and they say how much
his rent was.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
I was like, oh, his like normal rent is like
twelve hundred bucks or something.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
I was like, how he how does he does? Does
he have bills?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Like?

Speaker 1 (52:08):
What?

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Guess not? I wonder the church probably feeds him anyway.
The uh they go to this loft fin and and
creesy or dods. I can't tell him part it's fine,
and they buzz the door for Eugene oh oh hannigan,
Eugene oh.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Hula han and uh.

Speaker 2 (52:30):
And they he gets. They get They say to the
ups United Police Service and they go up and who
answers the door but Lance Woodstone.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Who is wearing was he wearing chaps or he was, yeah,
where's something. He's wearing a bunch of leather and it's
got a cowboy hat and you can see over his
shoulder a sex loftuh. And he's like, oh, you're not
the ups guys, and they're like, no, can we come in?
It's like the answer should be.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
No, Matt, I have to ask you something. Yeah, how
long did it take you to figure out that the
figure over Lance's shoulder was, in fact not a gimp
dressed in red PVC, but just a mannequin? Oh?

Speaker 1 (53:26):
I clocked that pretty quick. I Oh, you thought it
was like a red.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Leather I thought it was a red leather gimp. And
I was like, oh, no, I'm not moving. He's just like,
just stand completely still. They won't see me.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
The real the t rex theory of not t rex theory. Yeah,
that's that's a theory. We'll try it out. I don't
think it'll work very well, but no, because I was like,
what the fuck is on his face? Though? On the
on the yeah, I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
It was like leather bunny ears or something.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Is that what it was? Because then he's Uh what
what the fuck is this guy's name?

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Wood Woodstone, wood Woodman, Woodstone, Woodstone whatever.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
He was like, so what do you? Uh, what do you?
What do you do with uh brother Eugene or He's like, oh,
I'm was Pilates, I his personal trader. And it was
just one of those things where everyone's looking and Finn
just holds up this ballgag. He's like, there's a lot
of ballgags and Pilates.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Mister, So is this a reference to Adam Sandler's sex
or weightlifting?

Speaker 1 (54:32):
God, that would be a deep cut if it was.
But I really hope so. Probably.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
So they asked him to come down and answer a
few questions and he's like, do I have to? And
I think it's crazy? Is like, you know, no, but
most good citizens like to cooperate when the police asked
for their help.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
Fuck you now brand to be bad thing, baby? You know?
How about you do your job?

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yeah, I'm bad to the bone.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
You already discovered, you have has covered this. That should
be enough to go off of it.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
You don't need me to come figure out what it means.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Yeah, do some fucking goddamn detecting and get the fuck
out of my loft, which I'm potentially staying in via
ill gotten gains.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
So he does go downtown and he's sticking with the
I'm a personal trainer thing, and then at some point
he's just like, can I call my girlfriend? She's a lawyer,
and they're like girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
So I thought they were gonna do a thing where
it's like, well he has to talk to his girl,
like it was gonna find its way in front of
a judge. It's like, well, he has to talk to
his girlfriend, not his lawyer. He's like, well, his girlfriend
was his lawyer. And then like nothing that they say
can get that that anglelaware Nope. So she shows up and.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Is Aaronson real estate broke. She's like real estate lawyer. Well,
I'm a real estate broker.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
And she says I have some legal experience of like
I Dottle, think that qualifies you. And she also looks
like a altimile version of Vera Formigo.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Oh I was thinking that she looked like Maria Bokolova,
who played Tutor in the the sequel to the Borat
movie Borat Sequel. She was like, she's nominated for an option. Yeah, no,
I I good actor.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
Yeah I don't know that's what I got. Anyway, So
she's like, look, why the fuck does he here? Nothing's illegal?
And they're like, well, he's living this apartment from this
fucking priest guy. She's like, that's sort of a bit.
She told me it was over fucking damn. Anyway, here's
all of the shit that's going to implicate everyone.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
A photo of him fucking the priest on the altar
at the church. And I'm still like, this really isn't criminal. Oh,
by the way, I'm also married.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
Right, uh yeah, So here's a picture of that, because
I think the reason that they say is like, well,
he's living in an apartment that's being paid for with stolen.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Stolen stolen funds from the church, which is illegal. But
like the the like sort of gay shaving of this
priest is like the least interesting thing about this case.
I'm like, Okay, so he's gay. They are also fucking
trafficking girls.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Again, which we are taking so little time to talk about.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Oh, and here's what she sent an email to Mond
Senior explaining, say, years ago, yeah, yeah, ranting and raving
about like get your fucking get your house in order, motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
And and they assume, which I think, I mean definitely
turns out to be correct, but I don't know why
it turns out to be correct. Is that this was
the blackmail that the Mond Senior needed to get father
eugen into feet to provide him with girls or look
the other way when he was abusing these girls.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
No, to provide like that was the motivator.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Yeah, but like that's fucking weird, that's weak sauce. It is,
it is a bit weak sauce. But they talked to
Tucker the once again go to like a bar and
Dodds shows Tucker the picture of Eugene getting fucking railed,
and they don't ask why is there a picture of this?

Speaker 1 (58:10):
But so like that is my cousin. You realize this
is even weirder.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
On that level now, and he's like, I knew Eugene
was hiding something. This is a different This is a
different thing. Hiding being gay is different than hiding abusing children.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Well, I mean, I think they're treating this as like
the proof that if if the case against Tucker at
this point, sure pretty much relies on the fact, like, okay,
he in the the v for Vedet scene. Yeah, when
Tucker is like those cops are dirty, that's why they're
accusing me.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
But I'm not dirty.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
See the response from whoever the shadowy figures were, it's like,
you were also accused by two priests? Are we to
believe that in on whatever this conspiracy is as well?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
So like it.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Right, So it's not well executed, but I think that's
that's why they're treating it like, oh, look, if if
we chip away at their credibility, it makes Tucker's claim
more viable because they're less trustworthy. But it's definitely treated
like no, it's just because they're gay. It's like yeah,

(59:25):
and they're like, we got him. He's gay. It's like it.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Comes off what it comes off, like, oh he's gay,
and isn't that horrible for a priest to be gay?
Again not allowed in the Catholic church.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
But they're also thinking about it again because like the mafia, like, well,
now we got leverage on him that we can do
what we want him.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
To do, which is which is exactly what happens. Next
they bring this to Tucker and Olivia and uh and
they say that one pp basically like squashed this because
they think that Tucker is the is the the soul
doer and all of the Saint Fabiola's people are underground

(01:00:06):
and live. He's like, well, if they're underground, they don't
know that you have his trainer. And so they set
up like a honeypot where Father Eugene goes and he's like,
you wouldn't fucking believe the week I've had whoop and
lances like on the floor, you filthy bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
He's like, okay, I'm so sorry, and that's where is
it fit and crazy about? They're like, what did you
stand up there by? Uh? Father?

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
And so fucked? That's I mean, like why why wait
for him to get on all fours is my question? Well,
less likely to run, I suppose. So he's just like
scurries away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
So they bring him in and they're talking to him,
and at this point where they're starting to talk to him,
he's just like, look, yeah, the sucks of gay whatever
whatever passed.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
I did a lot of soul searching.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Right, And they're like, you're you're currently paying thirty five
hundred a month for that loft for him time.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I sold some family heirlooms.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Well then he freaks because then he has like a
mover like, oh shit, you guys went through my yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Oh yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Then I think he realizes how fucky is He's like,
oh no, yeah, uh, fairly heirlooms something like that. Every
every month. I saw a bunch of family heirlooms, and
I pay the rent on this thing. Is anyone believing
anything that I'm no? Okay, well this is all kind
of pointless now is and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
He he, he keeps going back to I was not
involved in any way, nor was anyone I know involved,
and uh and so Careesy or someone talks to Monsignor
mulreagan and he's like, yeah, I knew about this. I
like thought that he he went on a sabbatical, he
did a rigorous soul search. And like the email that

(01:01:43):
this lady sent to me I forwarded to the Bronze DA,
I just assumed that there was no he said that
there was no like truth to it. So I just
fucking didn't know it was that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
And then it was Barbara brings up the fact. It's like,
well there was an accusation that he was skimming money
as well. That's what he Yeah, that's what he said
over to the bronx.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
DA that was in that email.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
And this is where Barbara tells him. It's like, well,
we've got you dead, Durets, because he's still spending thirty
five hundred bucks of the church's money on this loft.
And Monsignor this clutches his pearls, like what how how
could this ever be well? And get to the bottom
of this, let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
And so the there he keeps saying over and over
again this thing about the bronx DA, the bronx Da,
and they're like, who the fuck is the bronx DA
And they're like joel Win. He was also arrested when
in that staying where we arrested a bunch of people,
they're like cool.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Right, well Cares. So the monsignor is leaving in a
huff in Cares because he still still denies that the
church has any connection to this, and it's like it's
it's just all Tucker, it's not us, and you know,
it's pretty hard to believe at this point. So CARESI
trusts to like can in front of it, and it
is like what the fuck, what the fuck man? And

(01:03:04):
you know they got you, and he know it does
the classic treats away. It's like, it's not me, You're
the problem. You're the cancer of of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Not me, and like, and this is where Barbela is like,
come on, crazy, get there, get there, Get there, and
Crease like, I think this guy's lying to us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
I think there might be a slight possibility that that's
what's happening. So then we cut to yet again the
bar in the middle of the day where Live and
Tucker or or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Fucking christ you have has a job Olivia.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Tucker I get his own suspension. So it's like, you know,
fine for him, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
But also, don't be drunk when you're being interrogated by
the super cops or whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Maybe it's just maybe it's just day off. I don't know.
This is where they're like, hey, can you turn the
TV on real quick?

Speaker 2 (01:03:53):
And it's n m oh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
And this is where it's the senior base being in
front of the camera being like I have come to
find out that h one of our priests I guess,
is gay, and that's a So that's terribly bad, so
fucking bad. And I'm like, why is the news covering
this gay? Did he touch a kid? No, it's not that, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Just very specifically he's like, uh, and was involved in
a kid touching scandal that also implicates the NYPD and
also captain ed Tucker.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
And IAB and SBU and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
And the bishop would like to say a few words.
And the bishop is like, we would like to invite
the FBI to catch the real culprit.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
And uh OJ to find out who really killed Nicole,
like really? And and you think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Why are they so sure that the FBI won't catch
the real culprit?

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Because they assume that if the NYPD is corrupt, that
the FBI, since it's in the bigger leagues, is more corrupt.
But they're there, they can, they can.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
I guess maybe they're they're painting the NYPD out to
be more corrupt than it actually is, which is there's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
Which is a real feat. But that's there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
The NYPD does try to meet the meet the the
moment because uh Dodds is talking to his son. He's like, listen,
we got fucked on this one. I'm not gonna I'm
not gonna sugarcoat it. No cop, judge or a d
A is going to go to jail for seeing a hooker.
And younger Dodds is like, well, what about Tucker, He's clean,

(01:05:41):
and Dot and Captain Dodds, Chief Dodds or whatever says
a thing that I wholeheartedly believe, which is that Ed
Tucker went to see his cousin by himself and told
him the name of the girl and the nun who
would both still be alive if he wasn't so stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
It's like, yeah, but he also is. Like all that
being said, I do know that Ed Tucker is clean,
is a good but he should have like brought his
partner with him or recorded the conversation or something, so.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah, there's so much fucking you didn't bring your partner
with you. And so they they talk to uh, Dodds
delivers the news to Tucker and Tucker's like, oh, your
father covered it his ass. That's always been his biggest strength.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Right, And Dodds is like, look, guys, I what tell
me what to do here? Like and we'll do it,
but like we're pretty fucked on this one.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
And they but he thinks that they could maybe get
Eugene and Tucker is like, oh, he'll never He's only
ever been employed by the church. He'll never turn on them.
He'll never turn on his employer. What the fuck is
this shit?

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
What dystopian will I like, and I I mean, I
guess I get it on some level, but like why
because because yes, while the trade they.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Just touch you loose, they just accused you of kid touching.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Yeah, and they're basically throwing you under the bus. So
like why would you not turn? I mean, you could
say no, it's gonna believe him because they're saying he
did that, so his credibility is shot. But no, it's
like he's the only the only place he's ever worked.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
I mean, and I get the employment in the churches.
It's it's a job, but it's like also a calling.
And you know, in theory if you are a priest,
there's it's a job, but you're not like looking at
it where it's like, oh, I'm gonna go hunting for
a new job. Like no, So I understand it from
that way, but why would you describe it as like
it's the only job he's ever had. Just be like
he's always been.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
A price but he's a true believer.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
Yeah, he's always been a man of God. Something fucking
like that. Don't break it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Down to bizarre to be like that's who gives him
a paycheck, so even though they're trying to send him
to jail, he won't testify against them. This is one
of the string early in the string of just don't
ask any questions about this that we get in the
last couple acts of this episode.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Right, So we go back to the squadroom and it's
Dods taking down the whole investigation with the boards and
everything like that. He's like, well, we're fucked on this one, thanks, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Yeah, Tucker says something at the bar that is I
want to kind of unpack how fucking dark it is.
Where Tucker says, all these years telling cops to turn
in their papers before they get fired, and now I'm
the one about to turn in my papers. You tell
cops to turn in their papers so that they don't

(01:08:37):
have to face the consequences of what they've done. Like,
how is that what IAB should be doing?

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
I mean, I guess IAB's charges to rid the police
force of corrupt cops.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I guess so, but like yikes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
So, like, look, we investigate cops and we do, sir,
but we don't punish do anything to them. We just
tell them to fucking go away, just take their corrupt
ass somewhere else. It's a real you don't have to
go home, but you can't stay here corrupt cop.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
So the Dodds is unpacking the big board and carries
He's like, I know that that Father eugen I could
get Father Eugene into to crack. And Dodds is like,
I don't care, like please please shut up and carise.
He takes upon himself to go to ay dark candlelit church.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Where it's just it's just Father Eugene. Why is he there?
I don't isn't he like a school psychologist? Why is
he not amore? But like by trade? Wasn't that his?
He was hanging out in the what's the So? Does
he he does two things? I guess maybe now we
went out know things? But you know, like how did that?
Like you spend half his time as the guidance counselor

(01:09:52):
and then the other half he's as doing priest things?

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Or is he like a pre does he moonlight as
a priest? He he is a full time guidance counselor.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
Moontlight as the guidance.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Counselor guidance counselor. There's some some hanky.

Speaker 1 (01:10:07):
I don't understand I'll tell you that for for it
being the only employer he's ever had. His job description
seems to be very flexible, little wishy washing, which is
why it really comes off like the bafia. Hey, what
is the what does Eugene do for? What doesn't he do?
He don't ask your questions, don't ask me about.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
My people when we ask him to. So Eugene does
not want to talk to Kreesi, and he's like, get
the fuck out of here. At Creasey goes, I'm a
Catholic and I have something to say to you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
I invoke the right of the Catholic to confront a priest. Cool,
so so ordered, so recognized.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
So ordered, and he and so his big thing is
think about Eugene as a kid, think about the reasons
that you became a priest. And I was waiting for
Eugene to be like, so I could fuck kids and
guys on the d L. Well, Jesus, I don't know
then that was really my only play.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Yeah, it's kind of a direct pipeline.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
So but Eugene's like, listen, God doesn't listen to me anymore.
I'm damned to hell because of this. And Crisey's like no,
God is here in his house and he's watching you
and you if you ask for forget, he'll look into
your heart, and if you ask for forgiveness, he'll forgive you.

(01:11:24):
I don't know, man, it's pretty bad if you facilitated
fucking child rape.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
I don't It might take a couple of extra Hail
Mary's for God to really forgive you on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
No, no, no, no no. I love how Careesy's like
weapon is basically like, let me take your confession. Me
not basically like any Catholic can take another Catholics confession.
Everyone knows this. It's it's it's the Catholic can baptize
another Catholics. Like, as long as you are a Catholic
and you were talking to another Catholic, Catholic law.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Applies wax on, wax off. But also it's like no
one really points out, and I think this is like
a good opportunity for Careesy to point out, like, yeah,
maybe you are damned to hell, but just because you're
damned to Hell doesn't mean you're off the hook from
doing the right thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Well, I mean, I guess that's kind of the question.
If you know you're going like, if you know this
terrible consequence like the because the basis of not just Catholicism,
but it seems like all of Christianity is like punishment
if you Yeah, it's all like if you do good enough,
you get rewarded in the end.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
So good place points right exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
And so it's also like, if you know you're sunk
no matter what, what is what is the good place
point incentive to be like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
But that's that's just moral dessert to use it another
good place term.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
It's like corre.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
It's like if you don't, then then you don't actually
feel bad about this, correct. He's like he's got tears
in his eyes. He's like, oh, I feel so bad.
I'm I've I've wanted to share this for so long, YadA, YadA, YadA.
He's like, Okay, share it. I think I'm already damned
to hell, so why should I even share it? Because
you fucking feel bad.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
He seems to really only be sorry for the fact
that he got caught. Fucking dude, nothing about the kids
because Coresy doesn't church funds well, like I don't. I
don't get it, Like, yeah, I agree, It's like it's
not earned.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Really, any of this is so not earned that that's
basically the last thing Creesy says. He's like, God will
forgive you. And then we cut to like two grave
diggers digging up a patch of dirt outside of the church,
and I'm like, a body, no.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
And that's that's the point where I was like, I
don't remember there being any murders. This has taken a
really dark.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Well they murdered, uh well no, no, no, but they found
her body right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
But yeah, they didn't have to dig for her. She
was still fairly fresh. But I thought it was gonna
be like, oh, there was gonna be a whole other
layer to the onion where it's like there's a bunch
of girls that they've killed or something, just like skeletons,
like a mass grave type situation, because it'd be like
holy fuck. Then it's like taking it's dumbest ship. It's
taking a swing at something, and they even like instead

(01:14:15):
it takes a sharp left into what the fuck are
we doing? Your turn?

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Like, well, what I was, I was I don't want
to say on board, but I thought that they were
doing I thought that they were really doing something. Even
when I saw the buckets, and I was like, oh
my god, they're body parts in those buckets. I too,
just fucking pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Because I was like, wait a second, how look just logistically,
if if you dig a hole that big and deep yep,
I mean, and these parties are all still going on, Yeah,
how often are you digging this up? Because then it
would just be a great like adding to the hole.
It would permanently look like it was dug up like

(01:14:52):
all the time, and someone's gonna walk by and be like,
why is there a big hole that was just filled in?

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
I wonder if that's like ninety five to two thousand
hole and there's like just different holes.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
It would have to be. That's the only way it
really makes any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
I agree. And so this is the the most.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Again, why not just put a line in there? We're like,
well that was just the first hole, Like right, they're
all over the place here, Yes, you are fucking digging
up like three.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Other they're bringing in the other the other dogs the
picture sniffing dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
There's a particular there's a particular type of ink in
that photo.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Oh my fucking god. So this is the most condescending
part of the episode. Patronizing so Amanda Rons is like,
so the pictures are of the priests and the sometimes
the girls sitting on the priest's lap, but they're like
the priests are are the ones taking the pictures as well?
They like are very aware, they're like staged where like

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it's like a Catholic schoolgirl kind of looking situation, and
like Monsignor mule Ringan's like wagging his finger at her
and a man.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Rons is like, it's like pink cosplay. It is like cosplay,
and aman around is like, what the fuck? Why would
they take pictures of themselves doing this? And they're basically like,
because the episode's almost over, Amanda, That's why. I mean,
the only thing I could really think of is like
that they later get off on that, like right, see
like right, but they don't ever say that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
Barber says something like that they get off on it
or something if they like it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
And then they're like, but why do this to the girls?
Why take pictures of the girls and and the and
the why force them to like be with these other
other guys, other cops. And I'm like it's very clearly blackmail,
and they're like, well, maybe to humiliate the girls. What
what do you mean to humiliate the girls? It's very

(01:16:46):
clearly blackmail. They're making this underage girl fuck this DA
so that they have the DA in their pocket.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Right, and also like any sort of child sex traffic
being victim. Probably yes, does feel I think that's kind
of off the bat.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
For Yeah, humiliation is like like level one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Right, Yeah, that's that is And that's the last question.

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
Is the dumbest question, which is why keep this? Which
is a very good fucking question. And Cariesy says, because
they're Catholics, they don't get rid of things, they just
bury them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Three unsatisfying answers in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
I just I felt, you know the part in Frost
Nixon where it's just like you just asked us, like
why did you just burn the tape?

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's kind.

Speaker 1 (01:17:33):
Of the same situation. It's just arrogance, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
Yeah, going to find it a better answer than because
they're Catholics.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Because they thought because they thought they were.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Those questions have have more logical answers than the ones
that the cops give. But whatever. Yeah, so they go
down the bishop. The bishop is going to go down
to but they uhs.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Smash cut to the oh no, we do the arrest
for a yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Yeah, yeah, so they do, they arrest the priests, and
then they have this like sort of grand jury montage
montage montage montage of all of the girls from the
photos saying, you know, when we got in trouble at
the school, they would make us do this and they

(01:18:21):
said that they were touching us at a godly manner,
but if we told our parents, they'd show our photos
to the parents and tell them what dirty horse we are. Like,
I don't know. I mean, like you were seventeen or sixteen,
I get, like, I get how that contradiction doesn't really.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Yeah, it doesn't register.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Yeah, but like that's good. That's a pretty you should
not you should notice something about that.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
Yeah. Interesting side note on that note, Cassie was watching
TikTok and I overheard something. It was like a catchy
kind of song and it was a a teacher. There's
some sort of a song of the teacher was singing
to their little tiny kids and it was like this,
it's a it's a song. No, it's good, it's it's

(01:19:06):
a song that the kids are learning where it's basically
the song is like essentially if anyone it's do you
know where that's in Death of Spooshie where it's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Like with juice for an energy boost, right, but at the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
End where it's like, oh my mom's knew u Oh,
he's just a justing event, and it's like but if
he ever touches you or whatever like that, then like
here's whatever you call him. No, well, it's like that
kind of song, but like if you are touched, like
to tell someone.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
So I was like, yeah, don't touch me in my area.

Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Yeah, but like in song form, which not a song
that I was ever taught or something like that, a
song that I learned, but uh, I think that's a
good thing. It's like, wow, if only those sixteen year
old kids had that song talked to them when they
were small, when they were kids, yeah, maybe this song
could have been prevented.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
So yeah, don't blame the fucking kids, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:19:57):
I'm not. I'm saying I blame the parents.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
So the the other the crooked cops come clean and
they're like, yeah, so we were undercover and then we
were just like, oh, I like fucking children, raping children,
So we were there. We were really good at getting
other precincts to look the other way, and Tucker didn't
know anything about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
I'm like, wow, are these guys, these guys are really
showing zero. Yeah, just and it's like, well, I kind
of want to know what happens to all of these guys,
Like do they go to jail? Are they going to jail?

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
Are they I hope they didn't just cut deals and
now they're back on the streets. They knowing what happens
in real life. They probably kept their badges.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Yeah, they probably got promoted actually yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
And so they also realized that from the from these
interviews that Father Acantola, the none that said, you know,
God works some mysterious ways as timing is always right
or whatever, booked a flight for Father Akinola to Cameroon
but under a different name. And so we cut to

(01:21:05):
JFK where Father Bologo Bulaagi is getting off a plane
from Nigeria and he's like, you don't understand, I'm Nigerian.
This is all a huge mistake. My name is father
Bolaji and they're like don't you fucking don't you fucking tried, asshole.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
But again whatever that nun is like, yes, I booked
it on this and he's like, oh, don't ask questions.
Like she needed to deliver that original line where he's like, oh,
he said, don't not to ask questions and God's play
will be unveiled.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
She needed we needed to take two on that line
delivery where she needed to say it in such a
way like like I know that I'm in the mafia,
and she's said.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Some kind of like oh this is I am kind
of vexed by having to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Let's say in the universe of this show that Nun
didn't realize that she was in the mafia and and
was a true believer in the whole fucking bit. You know,
your your noun friend is murdered, You've got a fucking
the cops coming around a bunch talking about like sex trafficking.

(01:22:19):
You know your your friend sister Nina is like doing
all of this stuff. So you presume like all right, fine,
and then you get you know, them implicating the cops,
implicating your fellow co workers, and then the body you
know a city shit and you or you even if

(01:22:39):
you don't believe it, but it's like that's enough suspicion there,
and then the Bond Senior asks you to buy a
plane ticket for one of the guys that you know,
but under a different name. Around the same time that
the cops have been coming around asking a lot of
questions about a sex trafficking ring with girls from your
archdiocese and no boy. In time, You're like, this seems legit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
It's the cops who are corrupt. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
I'm just saying that you need to have her in
on the joke too, on the world.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Or that, or that they have something on her and
she like wishes that she could tell me, or you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Need something to get that because either it's like these
people are either stupid or evil, but they can't be both.

Speaker 2 (01:23:20):
Yeah. Yeah, So Dodd's senior reinstates Olivia and says, good job, Mikey,
you did it. You did a good job, but you
pissed off. You brought the big guns, but you pissed
off people with long memories and lots of friends, the mafia, mafia,
and they got everybody except for the bishop because the

(01:23:44):
Vatican recalled him and now he is soul searching on
an island off the coast of Chile.

Speaker 1 (01:23:50):
And they're like, well, then, what the fuck? Why why
that is like I was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Why do they give up father upon for a bishop cute?

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
And then we cut to the bar.

Speaker 2 (01:24:02):
I literally expect that to be the last light of
the episode.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
It should have been.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Uh, but we cut to the bar and Lives like,
let's celebrate another bar keep.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Yeah, it's like a second glass of wine, and suckers like, yeah,
let's let's not.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
And he's like, oh okay, that was her second. I
think that they've been at the bar all day.

Speaker 1 (01:24:22):
Well, I mean, I mean, I guess we're supposed to
I guess we're supposed to think that.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
I don't know, yeah, because every time we see them,
they're at a bar.

Speaker 1 (01:24:29):
Well, right, but it's a different bar. This is a
classier bar.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
This is a classier bar because they're celebrating. Well, yeah,
I'm also wondered.

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
It's like they didn't get a bottle. They're just going
by the glass. Was like, if you're going by the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Glass, oh waste the money?

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Yeah you should, just if you're gonna have two drinks
apiece that's basically a bottle of wine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
It's probably the only alcoholic. Could you let it sit?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
I've just said, like, Live doesn't seem to be impaired. No,
neither of them do so.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
But when when uh Tucker says, hey, you know, I
thought we'd take it easy tonight, she gives the I
don't know if it's like the A number one classic
alcoholic response, but she gives an alcoholic response, which is
I thought we were celebrating.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
I mean, I get here's the thing. They are really
trying to force that They're trying to make betch happen
with this, but it's like we're not getting any we
need more than It's like, oh no, at the end
of the night, Live has a glass of wine while
looking at police files.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Full glass of whiskey.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Right, But it's like every time we see her drinking wine,
just a glass of wine, and it's like, oh, it's
late at night, she's having a glass of wine. Oh
she's would talk about she's having a glass of wine.
A criminal, and it's like, okay, fun. If you want
to establish that she's she's falling into alcoholism or something
like that, you need to start following up with like

(01:25:49):
you know what Rollins was on, like gambling benders, and
she would be like, oh, Rollins is coming in late.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
She smells like a bar like and we cut to
her in the casino.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Right this it's just like Tucker being like, ooh, another
glass of one, which by the way, is already poured,
so you're paying for either way Live. Uh So it's
like I I you, there's we need more, we need more.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
If I had to guess, I feel like this was
a storyline that was like forced upon them and nobody
wanted to do because it seems like they're just like
sleep walking through this. Hey, live, maybe maybe let's cool
it down, okay, Ed, I just thought we were celebrating

(01:26:33):
and then just.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Like they sit in silence and just stare at each other.

Speaker 2 (01:26:37):
Yeah. And then speaking of sitting in silence, we cut
over to Careesi, who's like on his knees at the
same church.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
Question Mark, I think so it's it seems to be
praying on his big case.

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Dick Wolf, I.

Speaker 1 (01:26:54):
Think maybe it's is it gonna be like a he's
losing his faith?

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Yeah, fucking hopes. You shouldn't have any faith. These people
are horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
He does have that one whenever he has the breakthrough
where it's like where Barb was like, yeah he the
bon senior said that he hand wrote that note so
literally it could have been written anytime it is like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I thought about that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Oh God, so stupid, but you know I was like.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Ah, so, of course not because it's about say, it's like, oh,
you shouldn't be a cop, and you certainly shouldn't become
a prosecutor, which you're going to be in the near future.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Yeah, so that's our that's Dick Wolf trivia corner.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
All Right, what do you got?

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
When delivering the news that Benson is being reinstated as
the head of SVU, Chief Dodds says, your long nightmare
is over. He is paraphrasing Gerald Ford saying our long
national nightmare is over. Delivering delivered on being sworn in
as president after Richard Nixon's resignation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:28:02):
Yeah, and the last time that Benson is not an
acting command was in season fifteen when Declan Murphy took
over SVU.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Ah, yes, who could forget Yeah, Donald.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Los Baby Daddy the Cabin February from User Review Corner.
This is from Rose the Hat from June twenty first,
twenty twenty four. So I told you that Judgy ass
Rose Miss Rose Marie NYC would pop back up in
the episode. I screenshoted this and sent it to her

(01:28:38):
and asked her if this was her because Rose the
Hat is her trivial name.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Oh is it?

Speaker 2 (01:28:45):
Yeah, it is her trie It is not her, but
Rose the Hat is her trivia name. And she said
she is offended that I thought that this was her
writing because it was not missing. It was missing hyphens.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Ah, I could see that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
So this is nine out of ten stars. Yeah, I
don't know, man, this is the title. Absolutely anything is justifiable,
even underage sex trafficking, if you say it's in God's plan.
Woof excellent two part episode Manhattan Transfer and Unholiest Alliance,
which take us down a fast moving rabbit hole of conspiracies, blackmail,

(01:29:21):
and cover ups when the s when SVU investigates an
underage prostitution stig in true SVU SUV style, I think
in SVU, someone in the squad has a serious conflict
of interest and chooses not to mention it. This time
it's Benson who's outed when Barba has to report the
undisclosed location between undisclosed relationship Jesus Christ between her and

(01:29:46):
her IAB paramour Tucker, who incidentally is being investigated for
involvement in the very sex trafficking ring cracked by SUV
once again.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
SUV, I'm hoping that's autocorrect.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
The frustrated and discussed to look on Barbara's face when
the penny drops after he's shared highly confidential information with
Benson not knowing the relationship was a beautiful thing to
finally see in this series. Even better when Benson is
stood down. Twists and turns in these two episodes are enjoyable.
Who's responsible for the murders and sex trafficking of young girls?

(01:30:22):
And in Who Can We Trust? The two vice squad goons,
the stoic and strictly by the book Tucker, the BDSM
loving god brother or cousin of Tucker's the psychotic nun
slash madam. Great acting. She's not a madam, she was
a bartender, the upper echelon of the NYPD or the

(01:30:42):
devout white middle aged men men heading up the local
church of the Invisible Man in the Sky. After a
whirlwind of fact finding a svu's blackmailing of a judge,
everyone tells the truth. The scene with Caresy discussing the
bearded one who Flowed in the clouds with a Catholic
BDSM priest was particularly moving thanks to excellent performances from

(01:31:07):
both actors. The final scene between Tucker and Benson, where
he is obviously traumatized by the events while she is
hitting the ven no pretty hard, was a neat foretelling
of drama to come. I'm sure the end scene where
the hallowed grounds of the church are being dug up
after every devout sky wizard Zelot has stonewalled all police

(01:31:29):
inquiries into the sex crimes and deaths, and then shocking
murder of one of their own, was very satisfying as
the pathetically passive and wilfully ignorant brides of Christ kept
sprouting I think you means spouting It's in God's plan.
Rose the Hat not a big fan of religion.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
It seems, but loved this episode.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Yeah nine and ten stars and from the other side
of the aisle, a text chat is back. Hey June second,
twenty twenty five, as all the other ones, What a
day After watching the first part this is called good
but unbelievable. After watching the first part, I was seriously insulted.
Not because I'm religious, I'm not, but because the story

(01:32:12):
was so unrealistic. You really have to hate the church
to write a story like this. Everyone is fair game.
I get it as long as it's realistic. But the
church running a sex trafficking ring, I'm sorry, it's laughable,
is it? Is it abused by priests on kids. Sure,
we hear about that all the time, Father Eugene and
the Cowboy. Sure I could believe that. I believe the

(01:32:33):
judges and cobbs and politicians would be involved in a
trafficking ring with different degrees of involvement. Cover ups by
the church. True, but I'm focusing on the story of
a sex trafficking ring by a Catholic church, and it's
far fet It's a far reach. After part. After the
first part, I searched and searched for any stories or
reports of anything like this with any religious organization and

(01:32:55):
only found one down in Mexico. I discounted all the
stories about the religious organizations with old men and a
dozen ten year old wives, organizations like David Koresh's. Normally
I would never comment on something like this, but this
story was way out there. Now let the hate replies
begin anyway. I was expecting double standard Benson to be

(01:33:19):
all over this episode, running the investigation from the Shadows.
To my delight, she was not parentheses. Maybe a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
Yeah, she kind was.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
She kind of was, but she was hardly seen, which
was great. The team stepped up and proved that they
can do it on their own, do it being run
a shadow investigation without Benson and her sanctimonious self. It
was a pleasure seeing the flow of the team. Everyone
gets deserved screen time, which is the way it should be,
not the Benson show. If her character was written better,

(01:33:48):
I wouldn't always say this. They wrote her character good
in this episode. She wasn't pontificating or preachy or rude
to anyone. I'm hoping in the next episode she does
say thank you Jesus. Despite my comments above about the story,
it was a watchable episode. The investigation, the blackmail, the
cover ups, the way the team procured all the information.

(01:34:10):
Carreese stepped up towards the end and made it all work.
Did he the DA getting convictions. It was a good flow.
Everyone worked together and fought for the truth. Five out
of ten stars mediocre at best. I'm really fascinated by
Atex Chad wanting Benson to say thank you it It
feels a.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
Bit more like Zelenski. Why are you're not saying thank
you for all the aid we've provided you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
I was gonna say, it feels to me like you'd
be prettier if you smiled.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Oh yeah, that's less nefarious.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
And then Anna Lucy eighty nine from June thirtieth, twenty
twenty five says a whole whole thing. She says, I'm
not here to comment on the episode itself, but what
I did want to comment is the fact that in
the episode and a few others, they're hinting at Benson
having a slight drinking problem, but that literally goes absolutely nowhere.
They just give up on the storyline eventually, and I

(01:35:05):
don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:35:06):
Why, what the fuck? Then why bother? I mean, I
guess you don't know the future, but come on, guys.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Stop introducing something interesting to the show writers and then
completely forgetting about it. Eight out of ten stucks.

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Is that interesting? It's like, hey, add interest. I don't know.
This person's got an addiction problem of some kind. Rollins, yeah, rollins,
she cats, she get Gambled's just no good on the gambling.
And then maybe later with tomorrow it was like, oh,
or is she an alcoholic too?

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
It could add stakes right, which it clearly isn't currently
doing but like if they didn't right, could add stakes.
But they're not doing it right, so it's not doing
anything right.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
It's such like it it's like shortcut writing. People think like, oh,
if you just do that, it's like a longer list
of problems totally doesn't make a character interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:35:53):
And that's our episode for this week. Law and Order
SVU Season seventeen, Episode eighteen entitled Hold Holiest Alliance, the
and holiest alliance being the cops and the Church. And
if you agree or disagree with us, let us know.
We're an SU podcast on Blue Sky, which is the
official Blue Sky of the Catholic Church. By the way,

(01:36:14):
Jesus wasn't real.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
I do you take that to the bank the Bloodbak
Senator for longer weirder stuff, orr tweet size email, send
us an email special viewing units trudeal gmail dot com,
and I guess try to give us a rate and
review wherever fine podcasts are sold. I've heard that's become difficult.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Give it a try. Tune in next week when we
view and review and loving leave it an aque. Law
and Order SVU Season seventeen, episode nineteen, entitled Sheltered outcasts.
What do you think sheltered outcasts about, Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:36:44):
I'm not shelter. I'm not even got a guess.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Nope, cries. He goes undercover at a homeless shelter, oh
for Fox's sake, to find out if a resident is
the suspect in a series of neighborhood rapes.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
This is going to be fan fucking tastic, let me
tell you, and infuriating.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Returning to the episode Jesus. Returning to the show, Kevin
Taie Tiger Tiger who is plays John Locke's dad on
Lost and was in another episode of SVU because I
remember being able to say that he played John Locke's

(01:37:25):
dad on Lost. He played Julian Cooper in in the
episode Avatar. He's the one that turns on the sun.
Oh okay, and we also have the blackest white man
that ever lived, That's right, Michael. Also like insane zionist
Michael Rappaport, he plays a guy named Richie CASKI so,

(01:37:49):
I bet you, you bet your bottom dollar that he's
gonna do his black scent and uh so until then,
well God, until that for law and order, specially for you,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
Greenside, And I met reuter. We will see you guys
next week. Gone Go,

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