Episode 390 - S18E1 - Terrorized - Law and Order: Special Viewing Unit

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Well, it's just a welcome back to another episode of
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and loving Me ridicule everyone's favorite crop drama, Law and
Order Special Victims Unit, every episode in a row from.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
The beginning, Is anyone even out there? Anymore?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Might be the bits of a civil war. I am
your host, Matt Reuter, joining me as always on this
journey the.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
This is WFML the sounds of the Civil Wars, sounds
of the Civil War.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Again, and I'm still gonna have to pay by sudent loans.
Uh yeah, why don't you you know what? You know what?
You could shoot one two people, which, again, this is America.
So if this happens, yeah, that's on the low end
of what happens every single day. But apparently that means
you're a terrorist. That's a fever. But side over there,
how are you doing tonight of Eve?

Speaker 2 (00:49):
With all due respect, you doing your job cost my
son his life.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
It's a real like, well he does have me there.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
But but we're cops. You're also a cop. I like,
I really hope that you What do you think your
job is? And what do you like?

Speaker 1 (01:06):
He's a pencil pusher, he's behind a desk.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Now, he's not suppose you're right. I suppose you're right,
but like, but like, how is an Olivia's fault that
Dodds was like, no, no, I must go to this giant's.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
House and also stay when he was getting and then
also go for the gun. Yeah. I mean it was
a classic instance of like lived in search the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
So I'm not trying to blame the victim here.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
I mean, yeah, it sounds kind of like you are
a little bit for you know, I means you could
take some responsibility.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
He could takes a little responsibility eighty twelve if if
he were alive eighty twenty not dots.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Sure, that's fair. Uh So it also it speaks to
the bagup job that Live is doing at SVU. Now,
to be fair, that killing didn't happen in SVU, so
it is jechnically an improvement. It's like the same way
that no one dies at Disney World because they could
declare you.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
One of those trash cans that like shoots you out underground.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
No, it just goes to like the center of the
earth that you've never you're never seen again, never falling,
and it never happened. Uh So, evive. We have been
so listeners didn't know until I guess last week. I
didn't even Yeah, we were off there.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I I just said that I was sick because I
did get sick and you were traveling and uh and
so you know, to fucking deal with it, you lunatics.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah it should happen, said, we had it pretty we had,
We almost had it.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
We had.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
It was very close, and.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It was mostly my fault.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
There was just not not enough time. Things come up.
So sorry that you. We did actually try to plan
to hand for whenever I was going to be away,
but inevitably that's how this podcast go. But so, I
mean it's been probably a month.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, it's been a while. It's been a while. So
everything's Everything's great, Matt right had me back in the country.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yes, I so so very much wish I was not,
But you know, I guess I could have tried, by
luck just overstay at a sanctuary, right, like trying like, well,
if clearly within the next ninety days, I will have
a legitimate asylum case that I can to any foreign government.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
It's not like you can find a Catholic church somewhere
in Ireland to declare sanctuary yet no, never.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
The only Protestant ones.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, you were in the North.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
At a certain point in time, Yes, I was so
uh so, I vive, how have you been? What has
been going on with you? A month or so? I
know you and I have talked, but the listeners want
to know. Inquiring minds want to know.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
You know, I don't remember what happened the last time
we spoke. I think the last time we spoke on
the air was weirdly pre post Charlie Kirk's assassination, murder
and pre what's the difference between assassination and murder?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
See, this is the thing, whatever it's it's really whatever
the right wants to make, what's to better.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
They get to define the terms of the discussion exactly.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
So it's like, you know, the United CEO Healthcare gets
gunned down in New York City. It's an assassination, not
a murder.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
That isn't an assassination.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I agree, but they kept referring to it as an assassination.
Charlie Kirk just a guy doesn't hold an elective office
or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Is like a rally. I feel like if you're shot
while doing your own rally, by like you're just grandfathered into.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Is that what I mean?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
I guess maybe it feels like if you like have
if you ask a high school student to draw an assassination,
they're gonna draw someone at a rally with a microphone
and their head getting blown off.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Right, But like MLKA wasn't shot at a rally.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
No, but that was but Bobby was, wasn't he was
it a ropeline?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (05:08):
No, the Reagan was a roe.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
But he didn't die, so it wasn't even it was
assassination attempt. Well, also was Bobby considered it because like I.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Guess he was for president and and and Charlie Kirk
was kind of a political not kind of he was
a political figure, as evidenced by Trump being like my
good friend Charlie, now we must fly the flags at half.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Masked, right, But it's at the same time, like.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
So while you were gone.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Like I just thinking, like it's like Don Lemon got shot,
would it be like that's sort assassination because like he
was also like a similar media figure.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
If he's in a crowd with a microphone, I think
by default it's right in the strike zone of assassination.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Okay, Well, here's the question. What if the mi so
all right, theoretically, somebody's just walking around with a microphone
in a crowd shot, microphone not plugged in anything.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Oh so the Steve Mike Crowder.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yes, but he has a microphone. It's just it's either
not working or it's just not plugged in. And does
the knowledge of whether or not the microphone is working
or not does that impact.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
If a microphone. If a white man is speaking into
a microphone and it is not plugged in, does he
make a sound?

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Is he saying anything at all?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Is he saying anything at all? Well, we'll find out,
because that's basically this podcasts.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Swell Boy, wild boy really got me on that one,
got his.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Ass, Drag him, drag him, says, while you were gone,
Jamie Kimmel lost his job. He got his job back. Yes,
basically everyone at the every remaining liberal or even remotely
center voice at the Washington Post has been ousted. Some
of them were I did during Yam Kapor.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Love this, okay boy, I have looking at the news
every day.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
One there was there was a big thought police cracked down.
Everyone had to pay their tithes to Charlie Kirk for
a while, being like he was such a great man
who advocated for segregation and uh.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
And repeal of the women's right to choose.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
And vote and you know, child child brides and all
this other stuff that he advocated for.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Bang up, guy, yeah, look look, look up, look up
Charlie Kirk. But oh my god. He Hey, if your kids.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
You're a familiar, If you're unfamiliar with Charlie Kirk's whole
ouvra I would it's worth a google to like hear
it from the horse's mouth, the stuff that he was
advocating for, including no black pilots and the fact that
black women are mentally incapable and mentally inferior to white men.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
So you know, he's but you know, shouldn't we all
shed a fucking tear?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I don't. I don't, so listen, I think that this
is this episode.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
See his fucking whatever the fuck you call it.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
Like.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
His death, no, the funeral or whatever they do, like
state news.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
They're not getting they're not getting my fucking eyeballs on that.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
It is absolutely horrified.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
No, no, thank you, like put them.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
All in third right instead of like regular suits.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
You're like, oh, yeah, I get this, So I I
will say that this episode does sort of shed light
a little bit on this idea of like, oh, he
had kids, so we should like mourn him, and like,
in this episode, there's a man, there's a really bad
man that that is a terrorist and calls women whorors

(08:55):
even though he sleeps with them, he sleeps he sleeps
with this woman films himself doing it and then being
like she was a whore who corrupted my brother, which
is like not all all that dissimilar from the stuff
that Charlie Kirk was saying. And when when he is like,
I guess sent to fucking Guantanamo Bay at the end
of this fucking episode, no one's like, but he was

(09:19):
a father, he had a kid, Like they're actively trying
to take his kid away from him because of how
dangerous of an influence he is.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
They are cutting a deal with the other quote terrorist, yeah,
specifically to prevent him from getting the child. So that's
that's how bad of a guy he is. And he
has disappeared like he doesn't it says he might as
well have been shot in the fucking neck. So let's
let's everyone calm the fuck down here and think about
what you're saying before you fucking say it.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
That's that's that's a little bit about That's a little
bit like how I feel about Charlie Kirk. I'm like,
once again, no deserves to get well. I'm not gonna
say that I am not prop shooting people in the neck. No, however,
but he was.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
And that's the difficult part about this conversation.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
And and the fact that he is a father does
not automatically make him a good father.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Elon Musk is a father a lot of times good father.
Do you think that he's a great guy just because
he has fuck it? Because he came in a woman
and she didn't abort it, therefore he deserves Musk's come, Well,
I I suspect it looks like other come So.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's not it's somehow whiter.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
It's just like people that are making this argument and
I've said it's and it's been on every news outlet
and stuff like that, and so it's it's.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Almost like forcibly right, like like the news outlets feel
compelled to be like, oh, his family.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
It just feels like it really just feels like it
like none of them believe it, but they feel like
they have to say it.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Like it's that is very true.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
It's the false equivalency of like, okay, are we talking
about all the things that he advocated for that also
resulted in others that were also fathers or mothers or
just people trying to live their fucking lives, and that
was cut short because of the mass rancor that he
advocated for and put a megaphone up to and shouted

(11:23):
it to anyone that would listen. And so therefore we
have to have some sort of reverence. Yeah, because he
was biologically able to reproduce.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Here's here's my issue, and I pulled up the uh
the tweet. My issue is that I'm going to reference
a fucking tweet. But this is from Nikki Frank thirty
and this is the quote, which is my grandfather used
to say, and Magda Goebels made great strudle, and I
never knew what it meant until after he died. My

(11:54):
grandmother explained some magazine did a fluff interview with Magda
Goebels a few years before World War Two and included
her strudle recipe, and my grandfather, who hated the Nazis
with the passion of ten thousand sons, thought it was
an example of the media sanitizing evil people, and he
would use the phrase when someone asked him to overlook

(12:14):
a bad person doing bad things and focus on the
good that they did. So this is a real and
Magda Goebels made great strudal situation and.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Lenny Rievenstahl was just misunderstood.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, such a such a great filmmaker. I had to
watch Triumph of the Will in college.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I'm sure you did.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
And my my professor, who was like old British enough
and old enough to have been in World War Two,
was like, I have to show this to you. I
want it on record. I don't know what the Nazisi
and I agree with the Nazis, we just have to
like watch this understand what they're doing. And I was like, well,
this Hitler guy, I'm sure he made I'm sure he

(12:55):
made a fine omelet. I'm glad he's dead.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Maybe he was just misunderstood.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
No, we understood him pretty well, you.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Know what I mean? If maybe our understanding has evolved over.
Mark Marin in his new Fucking stand up special, has
a bit where he's like, if Hitler were alive today,
he would absolutely go on theova's podcast. Yeah, ye, be
like Hey, Hitler, did you were really you didn't really
hate all those shoes? You were just on myth? I've
done math, Hitler, Do you want to apologize to all

(13:23):
the Jews here on by show? No, I'm I get it.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Speaking of right wing pilled, this is like not really
even a story and it's not even right wing piled.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Uh well, what else about miss we gotta got?

Speaker 2 (13:36):
We got? Okay, a lot of stuff. So so that's
still happening, and and a weird sort of coalescence is
I got contacted by a former co worker of mine
who worked who was like the artistic director at the
Altadena Musical Theater which burnt down in the fires. And

(13:58):
one of their performances from last year was Cabaret and
they have it on film, and they asked me if
I would like edit the edit the footage together. So
for the last month I've been editing a performance of Cabaret,
which is like, it's not great to be like, well,
my morning Nazis if you are an unfamiliar Cabaret, lots
of Nazis, lots of lots of fucking Nazis in that show,

(14:21):
actually just kind of one. But he makes a bunch.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Of it, but it's featured, prominently.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Featured prominently the Nazis and so yeah, so I got
to know cabaret pretty well. You can get us on
Blue sky Er Instagram. If you want to know my
favorite cabaret songs of Cabaret, it might be the ones
that you're expecting.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
I'm not gonna lie, I've never seen it. I'm sure
I'm familiar with the music. I'm sure i've heard it,
but couldn't be like that one that's from.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Cabaret, sitting alone in your room, the cabaret from Cabaret?
And what else has happened? Israel has kidnapped a bunch
of people who are a flotilla trying to deliver aid
to to Gosins, and reports are that they like beat

(15:11):
Greta Tunberg and made her kiss the Israeli flag. I
don't know if those have been substantiated, but that seems
a little cartoonish to me. I'm not saying it didn't happen. Yeah,
I seem a little on the notes.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Yeah, it's here's the fact. Here's the problem, the fact
that we have to be like, eh, it's not if
that's not a completely thing that we can dismiss out
of hand. It should be an indication. It's alarming how
cartoonishly villainous a lot of these actions have become seemingly.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
And speaking of cartoon villainy, it appears as though Trump
has declared war on American cities and the people in them,
and has weaponized certain states national guards against other states. Uh,
to the point at which I think that it's the
text this national guard has invaded Chicago.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Yeah. And if anyone's wondering, Matt, doesn't that sound like
the definition of a civil war, you'd be exactly correct.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
She'd be correct. That is, well, it's not a war
because we're not fighting back yet.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, that's you know, it kind of seems like that
at this point is an inevitability.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah. Yeah, And and uh, like someone.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Is gonna take a shot at someone. I'm not saying
who's gonna pull the trigger first, but it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
And it's already violent. We can't pretend like it's not violent.
It's already quite violent. They shot a priest in the
head with a bean bag yesterday. There's like they're like
shooting people, shoving them to the ground, kidnapping children and
babies and handcuffing them apparently once again. Reports I can't
I can't claim to have independently corroborated this, but the

(16:52):
reports are that they're separating people according to race and
putting them in different racial like like paddy wagons.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yet again. And it's a thing where if we have
to stop and think about like what that is that
the fact that you can't dismiss that out of and.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
And Trump has talked about jailing JB. Pritzker, which he
he also talked about jailing Gavin Newsom, and he didn't
do that because that's an idiotic thing to try to do.
And Pritzker is like, fucking come and get me as
of today. So you know, it's it is, It is
a it is a I just wish people would let

(17:31):
cooler heads prevail. I wish the Democrats would, oh yeah,
the government shut down. I wish the Democrats would see
the other side a little bit, reach across the aisle,
let cooler heads prevail and see what these people really want.
The kitchen table issues like do women and people of
color have the right to exist? And we should we

(17:53):
should actually legitimately debate them. I'm in the word in
the marketplace of ideas.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
It's clearly the issue here is that the other side
just does it feel like their ideas are being heard?

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Have we gone too woke? Is it?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
These are the questions. It's entirely possible. I'm just asking
a question. I might not allowed to ask questions any
won't just asking questions? What because what if have you
thought about? What if we were wrong about rights about
black people and women being able to exist? Have you
thought about that? What if we're wrong?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
I think about it all the time.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
They're Therefore, there is a plague on the planet of
Melanin of just of of people that aren't white and
don't have vaginas. And that's a problem. Well, the vaginas
are very nice vaginas. But we need the vaginas, you see,
because we we like the vaginas for the things they

(18:50):
do and we do to them. But the black people, No,
I don't know. I think we we may have. We
may have been way off based on that one and
the fact that you guys won't just sit down and
talk to us and say that, God, this is a
bad idea.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Reach across the aisle, you.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Know, I feel like I'm coming to you in good
faith of if with my idea of women and black
people shouldn't exist, and rather than engaging me in this discussion,
you just say that.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
You're calling me a fascist. I love to go back
to get anywhere. I love to go back to one
of your favorite things, which is like the blowjob economy.
And it's like, what if the dollars in the blowjob
economy were Like, we don't want to be dollars anymore.
We are real human beings, Like, what what should we do?

(19:38):
We blow job enthusiasts who love buying and selling and
trading people with vaginas. What are we supposed to do?
Allow allow our dollars to revolt against.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Us, to leave the marketplace.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
To leave the marketplace of any that would but.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
That would crash the economy, the blow.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Job economy being we can't do that.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Do you know the cost of blow jobs? Like that's
if you're shortening to supply.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I also read something interesting, But.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
The demand is probably even gonna just go up, and
even if it stays the same, it's just the prices.
Change in price moves along the curve, and that's.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Just a strange along the curve. Change in demand moves
the curve. I also, speaking of changing demand, I also
read something interesting which is like kind of a low level, uh,
low level headline, which is some someone's hot take that
the reason that certain people, especially in the right on
the right, love AI is because they just want slaves,

(20:36):
They just want Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, sense,
they just like what.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's the more sinister end of it, But not untrue,
I think on some level. Yeah, I think really it's like,
the only people that want the AI ship is because
they've sunk too much money into it. So it's just
that's also true greedy fucking capitalists being like I spent
how many billions of dollars to and you're telling me
that you don't want.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
To use it. It's essentially a magic eight ball.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I need to make more money by destroying the planet
further and quicker. So yes, I have more than I
need and could ever need, and could probably feel the
needs of everyone else on the planet. But that is
besides the fucking point.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
And as as speaking of AI, we no longer not
just destroying the planet, but like destroying the very idea
of truth, and we like no longer can trust any
video that we see on the Internet, which is like
super cool, especially when our judges and senators in Congress
people are like eighty years old and get scammed by

(21:38):
like Nigerian prints fucking email.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
The number of checks Chuck Schumer has set to people.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
Oh my god, it's our money too.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah. Right, that's the tragic part.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
I get the fucking email, I'll be like I got
I got scammed again, Avive, can you chip in twelve dollars?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
That guy has texted me numerous times and you just subscribed.
I have all I did too, but it's the paragraph
of a fuck you that I said whoever is sending
this or someone's going to read it somewhere and then unsubscribed.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yeah. And lastly, but not leastly, as you mentioned, the
government is shut down specifically because the Republican budget like
triples people's insurance premiums, at least triples their insurance premiums,
and so the Democrats are like, hey, don't do that,

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and the Republicans are like, well, we're going to shut
the government down and we're going to change people's out
of office emails to blame the Democrats, which is technically illegal.
But once again, when you're not when you're not enforcing
any laws. There's nothing's illegal. And they are refusing to
seat a Democrat who is democratically elected a congress person

(22:51):
because she is the deciding vote in releasing the Jeffrey
Epstein files and they have just waited like two weeks
to swear her in. Uh because Mike Johnson is is
a super duper piece of shit. You know, we haven't
heard heard from recently is JD Van So I wonder
what he's up to. He's he's in the corner sort
of like like creepily rubbing his palms together. I bet

(23:15):
I would believe that with his like mascara dripping down
his face.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Super emo. So uh, okay, thanks for getting me called up.
Some of that I knew. Some of that I did
not know.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Oh yeah, pretty, it's pretty bad, right.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, that's that's. Here's the thing. When I left, I
was I don't want to say how much I was expecting,
but I was expecting to be terminaled. And like, oh sure,
if there is no United States of American bar there's
now the renewed Confederate States and of Croia, right, Like
I it was a legitimate possibility that I was planning for.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, you just have a you have an eventual out.
You just you just have a plan.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Right. The fact that I have to have a plan
again I have to stress should tell everyone everything you
need to know. Also, by that same token, was kind
of hoping that I would not have an America to
come back to you, because then I could just be
a refugee abroad and not back here.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
In America, refugees are treated fucking great. A refugee in Europe,
you'll be welcome with open arms.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I'm just I think that the good people of Ireland
would have maybe done that, I don't know, depending where. Wow,
how horrifying. It was really nice to be off of
the news for two weeks while I was gone in Ireland. Hey,
vive highly recommend if yes going prep staying and I.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Going Ireland and never coming back. So so wait, I
just I just googled the terminal because we're talking about it. Yeah,
and it appears as though it is a true true
story about an Iranian man. Yes, and lived in Charles
the gall Guess how long do you do you remember

(25:09):
how long he lived there? I didn't know this. It
was like years, it was eighteen years.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, and then he like he just died fairly recently.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, and November of twenty two.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, I think he died at Charles da Gall I
think because I think he left and then he came
back and died there.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Oh, that's so fucked. There is a documentary about him
called Waiting for Goodot at de Gaulle. That's a fucking
tongue twister. Waited for a Goodot at the gaulf Speaking
of Waiting for Goodo, I went to New York and
I bought for other things, and I bought tickets to
see Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter Do Waiting for Goodo

(25:49):
on Broadway. So I'm gonna go see that in December.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
That's gonna be fucking awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's gonna be great.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
And I also got a got tickets to Oh Mary, Oh.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Mary, And you don't know who's gonna be playing, No,
it's Mary.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
After date Jane Krakowski leaves, So I hope it's either
Jaye Krekowski again or Titus Purchase.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
That would be amazing, I wonder. Yeah, whenever you find out,
let me know obviously.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, I'll set the world on fire. Yes, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
And now without further Ado after boys, some Ado on
to the main event.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
But we're gonna be in my defense, most of that
is dead air.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
That is true, and most of that you'll never know, listeners,
which is why we sound so energized right now going
into the actual episode, which is She's in the season
eighteen episode one of SPU entitled Terrorized. Oh my god,
I Eve, we're onto a new fucking season.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Please give us new season. Same shit, worst.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Shit, worse shit. It's a lot of similarities to today
in all the worst ways that we're gonna review and
talk about all of that right after this.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Oh my god, I completely forgot how we do this
show bad.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
We're back. You might have gotten that, you might not have.
Who knows, And as we said before the break, we're
gonna be viewing and reviewing season eighteen episode one, new
season entitled Terrorizes. Just to reminder to our listeners, all
of the episodes are able to watch on Hulu and Peacock,
at least for now, with Hulu or I guess you'd
go to Disney Plus. I guess if you want to

(27:25):
be a real fucking dick about it.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
A real fucking dick about it, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Don't watch the show ever anymore. But you know, if
you must. You know, we're kind of doing it so
you don't have to. That's the joke of the intro,
which is now becoming even more real because this is horrifying.
But if you must watch it, watch it there, it'll
make more sense. Hopefully you'll be as angry as we are.
I'm sure that we're going to get to But before
we get.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Into what do you mean everything's great? This episode is America.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
It sadly is. That's the part that's angering. But before
we get into breaking down the episode, in the greatest
tradition that we have on this podcast, Aviv, you're gonna
hit us with a ninety second recap of what happened
at this week's episode. So Ivive, we're gonna put ninety
seconds on the clock. Why did you tell us what
the fuck happened to this week's episode of SVU?

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Okay, you guys, do not go near the balloon man.
So four year old Ali and his aunt are in
the park and she just gets ganked by a bike
and Olivia is also in the park with Noah. Wouldn't
you know it? What a coincidence. I'm in the place
where the crime is happening. And so she goes. She

(28:35):
goes to see Ali, who's playing in a sandbox by himself.
The cop found him and the called SVU and wouldn't
you know it, Ali pulls out a gun and points
it to Olivia. He's four, by the way, and on.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
The right idea. I'm not gonna lie, guys, got some
good ideas.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
I'm expecting someone to headshot this kid. And so Olivia
disarms him and then is like, Noah, it's okay to
be close to Ali again. What if he has a
second gun in that bag? Whatever? So the boy doesn't
speak any English, and Olivia's keeps going like, is mama
or dadda around? And if I were a New York
cop dealing with children, I would simply learn how to

(29:12):
say mama and dadad and a bunch of different languages.
But whatever. So the bicycle lady died and will they
find out that she was taking care of Ali because
there was a note from his mother telling her to
feed him cereal and only a kid would eat cereal
for breakfast or whatever and uh, and so that was

(29:32):
Auntie Rahema Rahiema's dad and mom Anna is in the wind.
But it turns out that she works at some fucking
diner that makes great spana coopada, and they talked to
the diner guy and he's like, she's like Anna comes
in on it goes and uh, the gun comes back.
And it turns out that it is u A traced

(29:53):
to some other fucking fucking guy named Luca Terzik. They're
all Bosnian, and so they go to Luca Terzik's house.
It's empty except for his Isis cave. He's got an
Isis closet and it's just Arabic writing and guns and
like a like a pro paane tank. And so they
call in the bomb squad. What do you mean? They

(30:14):
called in the bomb squad? And and so the cops
are sort of wringing their hands for just like zero
point five seconds where they're like, well, Luca's an American
citizen and she's and she is a legal immigrant, so
we can't trample on their rights. HAA, never mind. And
they think that Luca is planning a mass casualty event

(30:34):
because he has a cache of guns and propaine tanks
or whatever. They talk to his brother are his half brother,
Armine Sedron, who's like paying for his apartment and he
seems like kind of a normal guy. He invokes he
wants a lawyer, and they're trying to get him. They're
trying to like force him to unlock Luca's phone. But

(30:55):
Lucas shows up at the UH at Central Park with
a with a backpack that black bed black packed backpacks
a little big for my liking, and he just fucking
executes a guy. He just a guy, like flashes, sees
a gun sitting out of Luca's jacket, flashes a badge,
and Luca just fucking executes him. So this is a
classic case of brown man bad He's not even that brown.

(31:16):
He played a different character on SVU several years ago,
wasn't brown, and so this base. The rest of the episode,
for about half of it, basically plays out like an
episode of twenty four where they're like terrorists, browns are
terrorists and uh and Rita Calhoun represents Anna, who says

(31:36):
that she was raped and she didn't actually want to.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
They they they fucking kill Luca. They fucking kill him dead.
So uh, but Anna's alive. She's like holding a machine
gun like, uh, Like, what's their name? From the Cimbinese
Liberation Front Patty Hurst and uh and and Anna immediately says,
you don't understand. I was raped.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Luca hated everyone rich people, Jews, people, blacks and uh
and so he raped me so much and told me
that I would never see Luca again. That's why I
like helped him participated. I don't really know what she
even fucking did other than like she was there, but uh,
Olivia wants to do a rape kit, and Barbara's immediately like, oh,

(32:17):
this fucking bitch. As soon as she gets brought in
on murder charges, she says that she was raped, and
Olivia's like, do you really think her lawyer would lie
about that? So they're both fucking idiots, Like they're both
fucking idiots, And Dodds is like, well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It's not any idiot. I think they both fucking know better,
Yeah right right, like they do.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
We didn't the defense attorney wouldn't lie about this. So,
uh they're Barbara and Olivia are on opposite sides of this,
so much so that that Olivia is called as a
witness for the defense and Dodds does not like that
and is like, are you a copper defense lawyer? By
the way, my son is dead because of you. And

(33:01):
so they find out that the kid Ali is not
Luca's son but the brother Armand's son, and he's like,
I never had sex with her. By the way, she
was a whore and she corrupted my brother and and
and no one will believe her because she's a whore.
And so they're like, Okay, this sucks. You definitely murdered somebody,

(33:26):
so you have to plead guilty to the murder and
if you do, we will maybe do our jobs and
figure out whether we could prosecute your rapist. And Ann
is like, do I have a choice of Barber's like no,
And so they are gonna prosecute Armin for maybe, And

(33:47):
as they go over to Olivia's like, gonna go rogue
and go arrest him, and she as she goes over
to his house to go rogue and arrest him, the
fucking FBI beats her to it, and they're like, we
heard some chatter in Afghanistan. And then she's like They're like,
She's like, where are you taking it? But he's like, oh,
this is a very secure special hotel. Dick Wolf. If
this episode feels seven hours long and Tucker's working for

(34:10):
some sort of fucking cop innocence project, which doesn't make
any fun, especially given the context of the rest of
the episode. No, no sense.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
What are you talking about. It's like, it's like an
innocence project for police. What it's amazing. That is the
most punch out You don't even have to show up
for work kind of time. It's like, yeah, we just
we allocate funds to this and you do nothing, because
why would we ever scrutinize our own cases and be like, hey,
I think we got this one wrong. Guys, what police

(34:40):
force in the universe does whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
But so like they clearly did not know where to
take him after IAB because he's leaving IAB, which is
basically the same thing that he's talking about, right, which
is like like reviewing cases and making sure that chops
to have.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Him worked for an innocence project, then just literally.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Having he's gotta still be a cop, but.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
He's an innocent project, so he's gonna be looking at
other dirty like potential fucked up ship with cops. So
like it would make sense. It's like the same thing.
It's just in the non profit sphere or something. Don't
don't make it. Don't make up like a fake thing.
Just just have him be a cop again.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
By the way, we have a show a new show runner,
Warren Light has left you.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Oh who I have not been emailing, but what's happening?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Warren Light has left and the new show runner that
this is the weird part. His name is rick Id
and Id is spelled like the like the Muslim holiday. Okay,
And so I'm wondering if rick Id is like, got

(35:54):
got a beef against Muslims that that extends beyond nine eleven.
And he's like, so is it.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
It's like a real like why should I change? He's
the one that sucks kind of.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Situation with a whole religion with a billion people, right, Okay,
I'd buy that because because this person who ever wrote
this episode, Rickyd, hates muscles.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Like it is. It's truly a delight, especially since we
started doing the like the original episodes.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
U huh.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
First season was pre nine to eleven. Oh yeah, so
we see what we saw all of this go through
and it's like it's it's back in what year did
this season start? Twenty?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
This is twenty sixteen, fall of twenty sixteen. Because they
talk about the Pulse nightclub shooting. Wolf and also that
San Bernardino mass shooting. Yeah, both of which you know,
they they got me on this one. I looked them
both up because I was certain that both of them
were right wing terrorists. No, they were both Islamic terrorists.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I thought the I did think the Pulse shooting was.
I thought I knew the Sam Bernardino was. It was,
but it was also one of like two people that died, right,
it was like correct, only well people, let's let's be
honest about it. Though, when you have a mass shooting
every day, you do look at the body count, you

(37:23):
do forget.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
But also like like so there is overlap, especially between
the Pulse night club and right wing terrorism because it
was at a gay night club. It was like very
much a homophobia thing, which is like the that's the
purple part of the radical Islam and also fundamentalist Christian

(37:46):
then diagress they all hate women in gates.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Yeah, so you know what, I I will take that
note back in my notes then, because I didn't realize
that either.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah. Both times. Yeah, so they got they got me
on this one. Touche rick ed.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
So we you know what, Rick you so so we
open if you trust a man of if you don't
pick a choose Ricky.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
Ride or die for Ricky. So we we open at
the outskirts of I guess Central Park and uh Rahima
and Ali are walking into the park. Ali takes off
towards the balloon man. Rahima chases after him and gets
positively nailed.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
She gets My note is she is absolutely demolished, dies like,
and we don't hear anything about the guy that hit her.
He seems to be fine, he walked away.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
It seems well accidental, but but like you really see it,
which means there is a amazing stunt woman in that
he job. Like getting fucking demolished like it was.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
It was kind of startling to see. This episode had
a couple of visuals that being one of them that
I actually appreciate it, specifically later during the shooting where
it's like, yeah, this is what it looks like people
with like dude just gets fucking straight, just just shot
in the fucking head, point blank right, like they don't cut.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
It looks like it looks like that scene and Meet
Joe Black where Brad pickttship of the cars.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, but you know, I appreciated that because that's still
like yeh me. At least it's like more responsible, Like
if you're gonna give us the copaganda, like you better
show us the fucking horrors of this, Like maybe that'll
make people pay attention to this stuff. I don't know
that's what happens in a mass shooting. What happened to
that guy pictured that with a lot more people.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
I also think it's interesting that both of these examples
are done in wide shots, right, which is like nonsensational.
I think it's just like basically, like the camera set
up this, this shit's fucking happening, And so I agree
with you that it is. It is unlike some of
the things at the end of season seventeen. I'm looking

(40:08):
at you townhouse incident. This doesn't even though it is
extremely violent, it doesn't feel gratuitous.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
It also doesn't seem glorified in any sort of a
way either.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah. Correct, I mean there's a there's a little bit
of of like cop glorification of like getting the bad
guy or whatever, but like that's that's par for the courus.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
It's right, I mean, you can't remove that entire Like, look,
if they're shifted to do something mildly responsible, you're not
gonna get it all. You can't have everything, and stop
stop expecting and asking.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
For it, and.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Noah and live or in the park it lives doing
like an airplane thing, and I guess Noah says something
effective like oh, airplane, like.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
You want me to fly you on the in the plane,
like we took to like a plane, and then we
took to shut up, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
And my note here is like, wait a second. You
took your kid on like your sex vacation. You didn't
like drop the kid off at like Stabler's place, poor
pin right, Like I honestly figured that's what it was. Good.
It's like, hey, you and Tucker are going to have
a nice no you got you brought the fucking.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Ka gotta bring the kid on our fuck vacation.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
And so I see weird anyone else?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
No? All right? So okay. I also there's a cop
going by. We've said too much. So then Olivia looks
over at the trash can and a New York Ledger
article front page picture of slain cop Mike Dodds is there.
So okay, let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
A couple of questions.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Let me ask you a question. Yeay, CHEVC I'm seated
day watch take a seat. How long do you think
they were in Paris?

Speaker 1 (41:52):
That was my note here exactly. It's like, wait a second,
presumably she was in Paris for a week like something.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
I was gonna say, longer than that, but sure.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Sure, but like even best case scenario for the sake
of this paper still being on the top of the trash,
this is like today's paper, presumably.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I also just assume three months have gone by, because
in real time, three months has gone by, so like
a three month old newspaper is just like face up
in the trash.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
Or is there really nothing else to talk about in
New York City other than this cop got shot? For months?

Speaker 2 (42:36):
No, because another cop gets shot in this episode and
no one gives the ship. I mean, he was like
Chief's kid, but.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Right, but like the fuck does the media care if
it was like the cop?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
But he's pushing that story, so okay, So they're still
going to.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Push that story because Josh Piss isn't in or because.

Speaker 2 (42:59):
That's actually true and he's like the coms guy, so
I'm sure that they replaced him with another coms guy
who is also a pedophile. And you can quote me.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
On that those pixels they smell the dogs. Say that again,
the pixels they smell to dogs.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
Oh, they smell the dogs, Not the dogs smell the pixels.
So all the way around the lights eighth sugar. Okay.
So Olivia gets a call and she's like, the park.
You say, I'll go take care of it. I just
happened to be in the park.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
Dude, you're with your kid, Be like, call whoever's on duty, Like,
I'm hanging out with my son.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
We should have as a part of the drinking game.
One of the drinks should be the cop is just
there where the crime.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Oh my god, it's like fucking murder, she wrote, It
really is where. It's like anywhere anyone is. It's like,
wait a second, why are you always here whatever the
murder happens. Why are you always whatever the rape happens.
Olivia seems weird, specifically Stabler, it's.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
But it's also uh uh Rollins, I'm gonna cut. I'm
gonna cut some of that out. Rollins is the one
who discovered William Lewis, who was like exposing himself to
women in the park, like randomly, right, and there was
also four three seasons. Olivia is almost dead a bunch

(44:26):
of times.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Well and whatever I think Live and Harry Cotting Junior
were going out on a date they like passed by
that village voice. Oh like the dead sex workers. Like
it's true, they're all like, I I guarantee Careesi is
gonna be like having meatballs at his sister's house and
like a dead body is just gonna we already that's right,

(44:48):
ricking freakin gun. It's like he's just you might as
well as have someone the fall through the fucking skyline.
At this point with the note pit, they're just said
I was raped.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Which I think I think is is kind of dog
whistling to All we need to do is have more cops. Right,
more cops means fighting more crime.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
But does that also mean that they're also spawning more
crime too.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Yeah, but if we have an assailation causation.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
We haven't established which direction this this correlation is going.
If you really think.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
About it, it's called broken hymen policing.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
They're not all winners, but damn it, you took a swing,
and that's the important these six.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Wings, if you connect with fifty percent of.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
It also should be noted that the theory of broken
Hymen policing was largely disproved through academic study and rigor so.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
But Rudy Giuliani, That's all I got. Where is where
is Rudy Giuliani these days?

Speaker 1 (45:54):
I don't know, some hovels somewhere. That guy's out of
fucking money and doesn't have a law license anymore, and
is he is melting as far as I know.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
So he's still working at the Four Seasons.

Speaker 1 (46:03):
I think he's he's fucking like living in Dumbo, but
like actually under the bridge.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Under the bridge. So Olivia heads to the sandbox where
this kid is, and she the The cop who called
this in is like, doesn't this kid doesn't appear to
speak any English? And Olivia's like, hello, where is your
mother's again? Mama, Dad, dad live?

Speaker 1 (46:28):
You don't think the cop is that was on the scene.
That's that's filling you in. Didn't try the same fucking thing?
What did? What did you think happened here? The cop
saw the child, it was just like, call the fucking
s for you. I get it's a kid. I don't
feel like dealed with this. I'm an hour away from

(46:48):
my shift, bet over, I'm not trained for this.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
That they're not trained to deal with kids, and Olivia
just happens to be trained for everything in this episode.
But whatever, so Olivia, they're like, Olivia, thank god you're
in the park. We need someone to go yell mama, dad,
dad to a four year old. And like I said
my recap, if I if I were her, I would
learn how to say mother and father and a bunch
of New York is a real melting pot. Olivia. Maybe

(47:13):
Spanish take a switch.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
She's already established in previous seasons that she can mirandize
in Spanish and like a couple other languages.

Speaker 2 (47:21):
And she's French right.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Oh it was Italian because liv was giving statements to
the Italian media about a rape case. I forget which
fucking one.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
And it was so what why so then the then
not just as you were starting to think about how
dumb this was just almost a gun pulls out a heater.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
And I was like, I'm intrigued, and of course lives like,
all right, well, uh get behind me.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Noah. Oh, maybe bringing this four year old to a
potential crime scene was a bad idea after all.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
And it's like, okay, live I imagined in her head,
She's like, all right, well, I heard he tried mama
and dada. I don't think that's gonna get me out
of this one that.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
She does Mama and Dada again.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
I know, it's just like I don't know if it's
all I got. It's like you're still with the dice
move too much. It's like the only fucking movie Scot's
the old.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Oh I got his Mama and dada. So I'm expecting
that kid's head to just blow up. But that's I
think that's also what.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
She's counting in her head is like the number of
seconds where it's like, well, someone's gonna shoot this kid,
take the shot.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
So she puts Noah behind her and disarms the kid,
and then she's like, it's okay, Noah, you could come
talk to this kid. Now, take the bag away, okay live.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
I cannot emphasize this enough. Dodds is dead because he
didn't check Brad Garrett for a gun. This kid literally
pulled a gun on you out of a bag that
you don't know what's in it, and your reaction, what's
getting the one gun, is to yet again not check
ches weapons. She's like, the kid down, are you trying

(49:01):
to get Noah doddged like, what the have you learned? Nothing?
Apparently not.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
By the end of the episode, Olivia has the opportunity
to do the funniest thing possible. But I digress. So
the kid doesn't speak any any English, and yet when
we go to the hospital, the Olivia asked the doctor like, oh,
how is he? And she's like, hey, he's fine. He's
just like a kid. And she's like, how is he emotionally?

(49:30):
And she's like, I don't fucking.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Know, Livy pulled a gun on you. I'm sure he's
fucking tiptop. What are you talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
By the way, that kid, because he's an American born citizen,
has a god given constitutional right to pull that gun
on that cop.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
He was simply standing his ground, sam Staia City's ground.
He's bothering no one. Why are you fucking with them?
He's just sitting there enjoying the sandbox and his bag
with a gun in it.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
And also he's also enjoying his right to remain silent.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Yeah, maybe think that's what he's doing. You took that
very literally. So it's like I can't say that. I'm
asking for a lawyer, otherwise I'm not remaining silent. So
I'm remaining fucking silent silent.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
So the bicycle lady died whoops, and they go to talk.
They find out where she lives. So they go to
her apartment and they're like, yes, the kid definitely lived
here because there was cereal. There's cereal in the cabinet,
and only a child would eat cheerios.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
I think there are also some toys laying about.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Cheerios, Matt. But then they find a note that is
also noticed, like please feed my son cheerios.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Regular cheerios. That is, you see a kid there, you
are within about a foot vicinity of a cheerio.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
I love regular cheerios. I've been kid free since two
thousand and three.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Right, but you see a child there is a cheerio.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Oh there's a cheerio involved. At least it's what stuck
to their cheek or something.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
Or there's like a hundred of them scattered about them.
They just follow them.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
So they talked to the neighbor, the.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Racist ass neighbor, who's like, yeah, that she's not American.
What do you mean.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
He's completely fine, he says, Raheem is very nice. Her
her niece is the kid's mother. There she's coming over.
She's always they're always fighting. It's always something with these people.
And Finn's like, what do you mean these people? What
do you And he's like, oh, immigrants. You're in New

(51:38):
York City, sir, go somewhere else, like.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
This is what I know? Is like, you've lived seemingly
willingly in New York City and what did you think
was gonna have? And you're like fifty, which because you've
ever been here the whole time, because you look like
a mook, or you just got there. Either way, I
asked you, sir, what did you think New York was?

Speaker 2 (52:03):
And Finn has an interesting response, which is what did
your family come on the Mayflower? Which implies that if
they had, they wouldn't be immigrants, but which is also
where did the Mayflower come from? What was the Mayflower
holding people from another place?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
By definition immigrants? The correct line there is are you
native of American? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:33):
What tribe do you belong to?

Speaker 1 (52:35):
But no, instead they go with the Mayflower, not understanding
anything about the Mayflower. It's like Taylor Swift understanding Hamlet.
She didn't read the fucking thing.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Well, we forgot to mention in are like huge wa
we didn't have to.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
We didn't have to record left field fucking shots at
Taylor Swift. There you go, Fuck you Taylor. Also, my
ancestors did ab over on the Mayflower. Wow, so I'm
the og immigrant. I'm better than all of you.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
All that Rune's tattoo makes a lot more sense now, buddy.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
I don't know what you're talking about, Aviv.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Your fucking iron cross tattoo.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Hey, people toldally it looked good. They were wearing red armbands,
though I wonder if that was not a problem.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
Swirls to had swirls on them.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
I wait a second, you beat those?

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Oh no, I got Nazi?

Speaker 1 (53:31):
How It's like, is there a newer episode of Arrested
Development where like David Cross or Tobias accidentally gets confused
and joins a bunch of like white supremacists instead of
fucking no?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
But that reminds me of that scene in uh rat
Race where John Levitt accidentally steals Hitler's car Oh right, yeah,
and gets like, I guess it's like ash from the
from the cigarette later on his nose.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
It sure is, Or when uh Spoochy finds himself at
a Nazi rally at a track of warehouse.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Very very good. So, uh we find out that Anna
works at a diner. Krees' is like they have good
spat of copa of there, let's go, and so they
they talk to the diner guy, except.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
That why does Caresy know that? So Grease?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
So not so creys a spin of copa and a connoisseur.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Okay, but that means Careasy is also going to this place,
which means that again the theory of like wherever these
people go.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Hey, he's just been waiting for.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Victims or like perpetrators. It's all again, it's all there.
New York is a large place.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
No quite small. That's a common misconception, is that what
it is? Okay, good, the tiny apple, that's what it's called.
They come quiet crab apple. I have been calling her crandle.
So they go to the diner and the diner guy's like,
I don't know what on is scheduled. She actually just

(55:13):
kind of comes in whenever she wants, and she's got
of like a like a she came in with some
bruises recently. But I don't ask questions. I'm just kind
of fucking here. But uh, this is where her checks go.
This is her address and they give he gives her
the address, he gives a constant address, and they go
to the address and it's like a fucking hardware store.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Yeah, it's like she's a server and she's getting the paycheck.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
It's isn't it. Normally it's more.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
Hash tip. I mean they do get a paycheck for
like tax purposes, but like right, uh, And so.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
They're like, I don't know, maybe she lives in the
hardware store. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Amanda Rollins is really on this hardware store tip and
so much so that Caresee's like, no one lives here,
Hammers live here.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
I don't know what to tell you. Robin's boy, we're
really on the rocks now after that three months summer
with Mike, yeah, face being on the cover of.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
The lost a little bit of your edge on maternity.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Leave, It's okay, we'll get you back.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
So she says that they're like trying to reunite the
mom with the son. Right, this is like the big
thing is she loves her son. It's very clear that
she loves her son, because she had this like two
page note that she left with Raheema when she dropped
the son off and and but like this person doesn't

(56:36):
live anywhere. She lives at a hardware store. She's fucking
like she's missing. Maybe her son is better off with
social services. Sometimes loving your son isn't enough, right, So
how did that?

Speaker 1 (56:49):
My next note here is just like that sounds like
exigen circumstances because they hear nothing, yes, And I'm like, wait,
all right.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
So they we have a little bit of a jump.
We're not not quite there yet. But because first we
go with Olivia and Tucker and they are like, we're
we're still together. By the way, I work now at
a conviction integrity unit. It is like an in house

(57:18):
innocence project, in house innocence project, in house innocence project.
So you, guys, by the way, is a real thing.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
So you guys expect to fuck up so much? Correct
that you that rather than put the effort in on
the front not not fucking up, Yes, you have decided
to just terrorize people's lives.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
And that'd be like oops, sorry an oops sorry, you
have a whoopsie daisy unit.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Yeah, but like, can we expect the whoopsie daisy unit
to do any thing? I think probably not.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Especially because cops so open to criticism of their jobs
and what they do. They're like, hey, man, we have
open door policies. Uh, so you can come in and
just tell us what you think actually what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I actually heard that forty of cops are really really
open to criticism. And for more information about that, Google
forty of cops.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
So it turns out that cops wives are loving this
new tailers now loving this new tailers the shit out
of it.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Let me tell you, Ophelia drowned.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Republicans by sneakers too, God damn it.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
So, I mean, they don't even like her, Like, there's
no amount of appealing to these people.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
They know they've they've claimed her now Fox News claimed her.

Speaker 2 (58:51):
Really yes, oh they've got Blondie has gone over to
their side. Cool.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
If you've listened to anything on this album, you would know.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
That she's set up down with a nice honky bredwood man. Anyway,
I cannot focus on this. I'm so sorry. So La
has a convictions integrity unit.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
They have never found that any conviction doesn't have integrity.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
That's the that's the sheriff's department that that has it.
The same sheriff's department that was under investigation for gang
tattoos and the that it's actually the District Churney's office
and New York does not have one. New York has
a handful of different organizations the conviction but there isn't

(59:38):
one single conviction integrity unit that but they all operate
in the District Attorney's office, not in the police force,
which is why they can fucking do that, I guess,
I don't know. But also, is that where fucking Munch.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
Went, yes, or like the private like an investigator. I
guess that's kind of working with the he was working
with the DA I you know, I just I want
to point out the fact that if you have to
put integrity in the name of the organization, it immediately
is a red flag that nothing has integrity in that unit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
The Department of Nothing to see here, you know, much.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
Like the election integrity unit that Donald Trump launched and
that I think Florida has or whatever like that. I
don't know. I'm just saying it seems like perhaps you're
trying too hard to let everyone no no, no, no,
no no. It's all this is look at the integrity.
When they find that nothing is look at it's called
the integrity unit. Of course we're letting get all these

(01:00:36):
convictions with open eyes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
And the District Attorney's office does a great job of
being having integrity in this episode as well. But that's okay,
so okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
So we go back. It's amazing how well and or
poorly this episode aged.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
We go back to SVU. There's been a bit of
a remodel, and specifically I noticed that the authorized personnel
sign on the door is in the law and order
font which is called friz quadrata, and Dodds is there,
and he say like, hey, I was just here for
Chief Dodds because the other Dods is dead. Hey, I
was just here for Comstat And Olivey's like, I'm the

(01:01:22):
I'm the lieutenant here, so like, maybe let me know
when COM's dad happens. He's like no.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
And then weeks after catching a glimpse of the picture
of his dead son, Mike still still there, and I'm like,
I get it, how much time, but it it that
feels to me like you get an actual, like framed
photo and put it on the wall, not like the

(01:01:50):
poster board that you put a fucking Kinko's with his
picture on it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
Like at the hardware store where Anna lives.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Yes, exactly, it's all full circle.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Uh. So this is where they discover that the there's
a partial the gun is unregistered, but there's a partial
print on it that belongs to Luca Terzik who is
Bosnian and he Uh, Anna was here in a student visa.
Luca is a h Luca is a is a citizen. Yeah,

(01:02:25):
but sounds to me like these people have no rights.
Let's fucking go, uh and go they do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
So they arrive at his apartment that's listed like guess
like on the lease or whatever like that, that they
find us and they knock on the door. They hear nothing.
The next response is that sounds like exitgen circumstances, to
which my response was, what there was nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
And well they're like, well, the kid, the kid's mom
is missing, and we have a child in our custody,
so seems like we can just kick down this motherfucker's door.
And that they do, And so they find it kind
of a normal house. There's there's an ear plugs next
to the next to the TV. I guess someone snores,
uh up a photo of of Luca and Anna and

(01:03:13):
Ali and uh, we're gonna talk about their names in
a second as well in trivia corner or in user
E corner and uh, and then there's this closet off
to the side that Finn Jimmy's open, and uh, what's
what's in the closet?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
A lot of guns?

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Okay, sure, American citizen Second Amendment.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
Correct, a lot of Arabic writing all over things, and
call the FBI. And a propane tank that there's something
on it. It's hard to really tell. You're supposed to
think it's a bomb, right, it's just a protein tanks
and like a road flare or something like that. And

(01:03:57):
so everyone is like, hold, stop the fucking presses. You
mean a person has a lot of guns and therefore
it's a problem. Gee, I'm so glad that we can
agree on the fact that if someone has a whole
lot of guns that perhaps that could present a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
No, Matt, see, your your your your liberal, your liberal
worldview is skewing the facts. It's not that he has
a bunch of guns, which is his right. It's that
he has Arabic writing, which is illegal in the United States. Oh,
is that what?

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
It's okay? So the guns are so it's the color,
it's the color of the writing. Gotcha, it's how how curly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Cue it is?

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
Sure? Okay, so that but the guns, that's not a
problem at all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Also, I don't read Arabic, but that kind of doesn't
look like Arabic to me. But I don't read Arabic.
You know, I'm fully expecting this to be a maleip
Nos situation or not. No, that's not maleip Nos. That's
uh mlip Noos is Brooklyn nine nine. Who's the guy
from thirty Rock where where Fred Armisen where live? Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
And they're just trying.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Yeah live thinks that he's a terrorist and he's just
trying out for the amazing race.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Yeah, because he's like doing like all those like weird
workouts and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
I don't remember the name, but I know what you're
talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Raheem Haddad. Raheem Haddad is his name?

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
What did you say?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Malip Knows? Malip Knows is his character's name in thirty
in Brooklyn nine nine.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Gotcha? So he's an American up dup doesn't matter now becaus.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
An American citizen. And she's a legal immigrant. She is
a legal immigrant and uh and they're like, you know,
so we can't send them to some black site and Yemen.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
And then someone says in like arrested development voiceover, they could.

Speaker 2 (01:05:58):
They did. So they are trying to get a warrant for.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Well, they start following the money and they find out
that the apartment is being paid for through a shell
company that links back to what turns out to be
this guy's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Brother, Yeah, Armine Sedron, who is half brother. And they're
they're like, there's they're planning a mass casualty event, so
we can just like theory.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
That's what they're going with, right, And by the way,
this mass casualty event is based solely on the fact
that they found a lot of guns in one person's
house and Arabic writing.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Which is you know, you find a lot. Once again,
it wasn't the guns that tip them off. It was
the Arabic writing, correct.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
But I'm just saying, like again, if it was a
white guy, they would have said, like that guy just
owns a lot of guns.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Yes, correct, So that a real fan of the constitution. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
So it goes from I don't understand how people don't
see this.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
What do you mean, like.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
The show doesn't see it. The show doesn't have like
the load dissenter, being like, hey, guys, this is like
you would think Careasy, the lawyer amongst them, would be like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Hey, yo, maybe we're doing a racism.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Nope, apparently not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
In fact, he even Careasey is a fucking dick.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
He gets pissed later when someone's like, I would like
to assert my right to counsel, He's like, go fuck yourself,
open your phone.

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Next it's the next scene. So they go to the
insurance company that Arman owns. They kick down that It's
like a dozen of them. They kicked down the door,
and Crasey's screaming in his face. He's like, do you
own this apartment? Where is Luca? Blah blah blah. I'm like, man,
you cash more flies with honey, and he says.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
I think I'd like to I'd like to talk to
my lawyer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Crasey says, shut up, grabs his phone from him and says,
is this Luca's number, the last number that you called Luca?
And he he calls it Luca answers and Arman's like
code thirteen, code thirteen, which.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Again it's like, oh, of course, the cops were right,
they were right to do it. They did because it
turns out that this person was a bad guy, even
though it's really not like he's not a part of
the quote unquote terrorist plot because they don't charge him
with terrorism. They just liter yet, right, but they they charge,

(01:08:26):
but they never end up actually charging him with terrorism.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
Uh. They do take him to a black site, right,
but they don't charge him.

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
You see, no, no, no, no, why.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Would you charge someone with terrorism? You look at them,
you think, and then you're speaking Arabic, you look at
the brown paper bag, and then you take them to
the black site. But I'm just saying in terms of
this brown site, I.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
See what you did there. No, But in terms of
at this point, like they don't suspect that he is
a part of any sort of a terrorist plot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
They just he's just a regular guy with an insurance
company who's like paying for his half brother's apartment because
his half brother is fall it on hard times. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
But they they do charge this guy's brother, who well
they murder him and then they discover it, but they
never charge him.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
They they don't, they don't, so they they only charge
him maybe with rape.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
Well they're going to charge him with rape, but they
don't actually charge him with anything.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
So again, they actually don't ever run down whether he
was a part of the planning of this massk cat, right, but.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
They treat him as though he is, but they never
But it's like, why would they bring charges against just
her and not him, That's a great question, like that,
this is why it doesn't make any sense. And then
he's the one that gets black bagged at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
They treat him like that because he's brown, and so
they just like kind of assume, but they also assume
that there's no evidence. So they're like, well, whatever, he's
gonna get black bagged eventually.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Well, right, but then the fact that he's yelling at
to his brother on the phone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Yeah, yeah, they don't ever they don't ever say like, hey,
what did you mean by that?

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
So like this is the it's kind of just like
it's it's a loose and just kind of hang it
out there, right, And it's like and they just moved
so fastly that in the episode they're like, don't even
worry about.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
It, because they move on to we can unlock his phone, yeah, right,
and so we need an emergency court order to compel
the cell phone company to unlock the phone, which is
apparently in reparation to a real case.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Yes, that was in the San Bernardino case.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
Correct, So this was during the sand Bergdino case that
the Apple didn't want to enable the FBI to use
a backdoor program to access the shooter's iPhone. Imagine that
happening today.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Oh my god, I I remember this at the time,
Apple being like, we don't have a backdoor program, correct that,
Like you were asking us to then create something new.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
To deploy Ron Howard narrator voice.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
They did, well, I at least this is how it
was reported at the time, was they doah, yeah that
they Apple refused if I remember this, correct that You've
got the information in front of you. They refused, And
basically what happened was the government just hired like a
white hat hacker for lord knows how much money and
just broke into it anyway, and then Apple freaked out

(01:11:25):
because they're like, oh shit, our security could be cracked.
So then they crashed a bunch of resources to try
to figure out what the fuck the white hat hacker
figured out to try to make their phones more secure.
This is hilarious because now they would just be like,
we will disable all security on the phone for you, dearly.
He there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Yeah. So, in addition to cell phone companies that will
report you to the police or to the government, so
will your ring cameras, and so will weay moos Way
moos are under surveillance and they will report to the police.
So think about that next time you use your ring
doorbell camera and or ride in a way though.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Also, all your phones are listening to you all the time. Yeah,
and so really, if you think you have any privacy,
you don't unless you are like off the fucking grid completely.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
This is the quaintest part of the episode because they
like actually come back to this later, but also because
they just don't. They choose not to do the white
hat hacker thing, like get go to Stucky. Is Stucky alive?
Is okay? Go to fucking Who's Who's who? Haven't they killed?

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
I think Burt Trevor's still around.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
We just haven't seen Bert Trevor. He's the best. He's
like Nylon was in Inside Job. Here's your phone.

Speaker 1 (01:12:46):
I mean he might be the right person.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Actually, I loaded up the audiobook of Loose Change for you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
No, there's the other guy. What's the other Asian guy?
Tru tech. What's his name?

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Mm hmm, we haven't seen it, the guy Tyro Tech. Yeah,
I don't remember his name. So the judge signs the
emergency order and he's like god speed getting the tech
company to comply.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
You get even him being like you realize this doesn't
fucking matter, Like it's yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
So Olivia is like doing her best, leading up a
joint terrorism task for slash SVU slash FBI slash all
NYPD APB against this to try to find this one
couple Anna and Luca and Chief Dodds is like you're

(01:13:38):
doing a bad job, and Olivia's like I'm trying, and
he's like try harder, and I'm like, Chief Dodds, maybe
put someone in chartoon.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Knows what they're doing, like like tactical error here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
Why is Olivia doing this unless he's specifically trying to
railroad her, in which case, right, Master, then we need
Olivia to be like I don't want it to please,
don't make me do this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Well, I get again, I just I can't and again
twenty twenty five eyes. All they have found, honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Was just a lot of guns and Arabic writing. You
can't just count the Arabic writing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Okay, at the but all of the guns are there?

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
Uh huh?

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Did you find empty spots where he's like, is it right?

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
With the shadow wall?

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
Right? So it's like, if you got all the guns,
you're then assuming perhaps there's another cache of weapons or
something else, because you if that's the case, you have
foiled the plot. Maybe pursue investigating other locations. He might
be hiding other weapons, if you say, because otherwise it's
just he owns a lot of guns, which are legally allowed.

(01:14:54):
Why do you assume, by the way, why are you
assuming a mass casualty event? Again, don't say the Arabic.
I understand that's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
But if you remove that, you can't remove that. Though
it's important context, it's really.

Speaker 1 (01:15:07):
It's you're focusing on all the wrong things though.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
But this is their only evidence, but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:15:14):
Not actually evidence of anything.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Is the price evidence of Arab it's evidence of Muslim?

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Sure? Okay, great, and and and please continue to go.
It's you're almost you're right. It's you're right, you're right
fucking there, it's right there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
And they're bad.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
No, I know you're going. You missed it. It's okay,
just you can want it's not too late. You could
walk it back. You could walk.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
So anyone who is Muslim or Arabic or has Arabic
writing in their house or on their person, correct, yes,
go with that, keep the kids. Is it terrorists currently
planning casualty?

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
So again again, where the road forks? You keep choosing
the road unfortunately not less travel here you're going.

Speaker 2 (01:16:01):
This is a real say fran say tresca moment.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Okay, you're okay, see I'm trying to struy teaching moment here. Okay, So.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
So you also Bosnia?

Speaker 1 (01:16:13):
What about Hurtzcovini? I mean, like, come on, have we
even thought about that? I mean, have you have? Have
you asked the question why why the terrorism route? What
led you down there? When you got to that fork
in the road, you just went? You went with terrorism.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I want to ask the prophet Mohammed why the terrorism route?

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Okay, well, I mean he's he's not here, so we
can't really do that, so we gotta through.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
But but Mohammad knows all things. Yes, Uh, it's see
what a twist that is? Where I'm like, the the
only true light is the light of Islam.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Can you imagine a Christian getting to the nbing like,
son of a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Bitch, Son of a bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Wow, I I got I'm i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
I was surprised they would simply face Allah and walk
backwards into Hell rather than admit that they're wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
That is also true, so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
This feels like an episode of twenty four. They use
facial recognition to spot the fact that Luca and Anna
are at the park, and Dods is like, make sure
see if there's any concerts or events at the park,
because they're definitely trying to kill a lot of people.

(01:17:29):
Once again, Muslim slash Arab not There actually isn't a
ton of evidence at they're Muslim.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
And Arabic, writing of if, I don't know how many
other ways I can say, do I have to say
an Arabic to you?

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
But they're definitely they're definitely arab but they're but well,
this is this is from what from one of the
uh the user reviews. Anna and Luca are Christian names.
Ali is a Muslim name, but like their names don't
make them see Muslim. They are Arabic, but their names
don't make them seem muscle. Sure, so they're they're in

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the park they're watching like break dancers question Mark, and
they're holding big black backpacks. Those backpacks are a little
big for my liking. And some fucking some fucking uh mooke,
I can't gotta say it. Mook uh looks over sees
like a like like the word lock as in glock

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uh poking out of Luca's jacket, shows his badge, pulls
a gun. Whoops, Luca executes him.

Speaker 1 (01:18:39):
Yeah, and again he was just standing there watching some
break dancers.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Uh. And then what if they were gonna run? Well,
what if Code thirteen was like leave town with your
weapons that you legally are allowed to own. The cops
are coming to execute you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:57):
I guess we'll never know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
I guess we'll never know at this point, because the
cops swarm, pin him down and just fucking headshot him
right down.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Yep. And uh Anna comes around and she's like, for
the love of God, please don't help me, please help me. Yes,
but Live takes a really long time. The woman is
like getting down on her knees and her hands are
up and Live is pointing that gun at her face.
Do it for a really long time yep, And she's not.

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It's not only like I could do it. It's like
I should do it. I'm just doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:36):
It's it's it's my duty as an American to do it.
So uh tariq Uh sorry. Luca is played by a
guy named Tino Sutrous suit Trouss, just kind of a
regular guy. He's like, he's like, you know, I hate

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to say it, kind of all purpose brand. So he
plays Luca Terzik in this. He plays Carlos and Tito
Alvarez in some things, you know what I mean? Yeah,
I do so much like Cliff Curtis. He's he could
just be kind of whatever, whatever kind of terrorist flavor.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
He I like Cliff Curtis quite a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
I do like Cliff Curtis, but like gun to my
head if I didn't know it, Cliff maudy. Cliff Curtis
is from New Zealand. Really yeah, I didn't fucking know Curtis.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
I didn't know that either.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
Yeah. Yeah, so that's what I meant. He but he
plays Latin, he plays Arabic, he plays you know, all
kinds of stuff. Love Cliff Cliff Curtis.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
Didn't he play uh Pablo Escobar or Pablo Escobar type
and blow?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Yes, he did good Paul, Thank you God about that. Yeah,
it is just Pablo.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Okay a thin.

Speaker 2 (01:20:59):
The year before where he plays Smiley is Sorry. The
same the same year he plays Smiley in Trained Day
and the evil but handsome Prince Khaleid in a movie
called The Majestic. Do you remember The Majestic with Jim Carrey.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
Yes, that's the fucking movie theater.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
Is it like that?

Speaker 1 (01:21:19):
Oh my god, who's the old white guy I met?

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Uh, Jim Carrey, Bob Balabano.

Speaker 1 (01:21:24):
Yes, it is about band.

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
Actually, I didn't have that in my back pocket. I
am on the Majestic Wikipedia page.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
I assumed as such.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
So yeah. Cliff Curtis uh born in New Zealand. From
New Zealand. First. His first movie is The Piano, which
is filmed in in New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (01:21:44):
Oh I thought you werena say, like Ropper Stopper or
something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
No, no, no, uh so yeah, it's this guy is
one of those guys where it's like he's a real
Cliff Curtis type in that you need someone who's not white,
but you don't know how to be mad at.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
If he were married to Jessica Albo in a movie,
you'd be like, I don't know what to do here.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Yeah, I don't know what to do here? What color
are your kids going to be? So they execute him.
He falls to the ground dead. Anna gets on her knees.
Olivia considers shooting her, and.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
We might as well have Anna like fulate that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Gunyah now spring Breakers style, and so Olivia clearly wants
to shoot her so that she could take the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
Kid, and she does have a bit of a collection.
I'm just saying objectively, this is important.

Speaker 2 (01:22:38):
This moment is important, which is why we highlighted it.
Because when we come back from commercial, the FBI guys like, Olivia,
we need you to talk to a woman, and she's
like me and they're like you, you're the only other
woman in the room, and woman to woman, we need
you to level with her. And Olivia is like, I
did nearly execute her to steal her kid, and they're like,

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we don't care. Vagina a vagina.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
It's like, I mean, what about Rollins. She might open
up to Rollins.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Bron's is like, so I hear you live it a
hardware store.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
And she's like, what are you talking? It's like the fuck.
She just won't let it go. Is it like a
basement unit.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Do you mix the paint?

Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
Is it just a front? Is it like you just
go in the back and it's just a fucking apartment.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Is that a terrorism front? They didn't raid the hardware store,
they probably should.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Have, Like this white makes all the sense of the world.
They need what do they need? They need stuff? They
need shrapnel, they need fernilizer, they need nails. They're making
pipe bobs. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
So they they let they see. They see that Armand
is a member. Armin and Anna I think were members
of a quote controversial mosque in Queens. I don't want
to dig deeper into that. But they let Armand go
because quote, he's worth more on the street suit.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
That he's a terrorist, then.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Yeah, catch and release. They know he's a terrorist.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
But again they spend a lot of effort convicting Anna
of being a terrorist. For the terrorists that they agree
is the you know, the idea of like, you know,
whatever you you're at someone out, like the bigger fish scenario,
you tend to let the person that leads you to

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the bigger fish off with a lighter sentence.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
In that case, this is gonna be Arman if he
leads them to like a bigger terrorist cell. But whatever, right,
But that means Anna just is it should be let go. Yes,
So they don't even really.

Speaker 1 (01:24:44):
Do a good job proving that she has anything to
do with this, that she directly is involved.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
She is a victim, she's a hostage, right like, and
they're like, ah, fuck her, does she fire fire the crowd? No,
So she's just whole a godlike fucking Patty Hurst, and
we're just like, yash, she's it's literally brown.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
It's like the end of the Dark Night where they
just taped the guns to the fucking doctor's hands.

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Yes. Correct, that was pretty brilliant, by the way, when
the first time we saw that, that was fucking that
was good ship.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
Yes, that seems to be what's happening here, except it's
not physical tape. It's like emotional tape.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Emotional tape. So the the they formally indict her on
terrorism charges basically immediately they're like, oh, she's probably gonna
get indicted tomorrow. And the FBI guy's like, oh, we
already did it, Like what are you talking about? And
so there's a uh no, I'm not a press there's
kind of a press conference Barbara's like walking to work,

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and so there's like a bunch of people, a bunch
of reporters, and there's a lady that's just holding a
sign that says no more terror.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
I did notice that, and I was like, what, I.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Who's that sign for?

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
That is really the most puzzling part about this. It's like,
who are you, like, who is sitting there being like,
go terror, go terror, terror terror?

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
Like and if you and if you listen to our
detractors us.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Correct, I mean, so it's so again I ask what
exactly are you doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
It's like Rob Low going to a football game with
the had just this NFL on it right, just.

Speaker 1 (01:26:27):
The NFL logo. We're cheering for football.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
I hope both sides have fun. And so they they
indict her on murder charges because she killed the different
she killed the cop that pulled a gun on her.
They she and her fiance killed the cop that pulled
a gun on her. And I wonder if they're going
to treat him like Mike Dodds. Nope, we literally never
hear about him again.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
Well no, I think Chief Thoughts does say like, oh
I knew that guy here was a friend of mine,
which I don't believe for a fucking second. I think
he's just pissed it. Yet again it lives or another
cop gets fucking gunned down.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
So Rena Calhoun played by Elizabeth Marvel says that she's
going to represent Anna, and for whatever reason, Barber's like
for free?

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
What different? Rude? And it's like I think living is
then like, ah, so you represent terrorists now, huh? And
she's like alleged and she's like great, I want to
talk to my fucking client.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
And the cops are like no, and no, she's a terrorist.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
And then Rina go is like again, I really have
to emphasize the fact you have to leave, that's part
of the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Nope, she's a terrorist.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
And then she has to be like, look, let me
preface this.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Say there was a picture of her in an apartment
with Arabic writing. Right. No, I hear that, So let
me let me there was no actual proof that she
lived there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Let's try to let's try to make you feel better
here by saying like, I understand what's at stake here.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
As me halfway, it's like, what do you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
No when someone says that to you? By engaging that conversation,
you legitimize the point. The answer is quite simply no,
you have to leave.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
And so Olivia is faced with a hard truth, a
hard question to answer for herself. Oh no, can a
foreign woman be a victim?

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
As it turns out of Eve The answer is yes.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
But she goes. She tells Barbara, She's like, hey, I
think that this girl was raped because she told me
that she was raped. And then she told Rina Calhoun
that she was raped, and read Calhoun believes that she
was raped. And there's also just just a bunch of
bruises on her and she was hanging out with a
couple of Muslim men, so they obviously are rapists and

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like pH posh, yeah, readA Calhoun's obviously lying and okay,
so clearly no. But then Olivia like pokes a hole
in her own boat when she's like, would Rita Calhoun
a lawyer, just make up a rape story about her client?
And barb was like yes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
It was like wait, wait, what do you hold on?

Speaker 2 (01:29:14):
Some of the lawyers that we've been talking to have
been lying.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
I don't understand because they have to wait a cannon,
you mean that guy's a liar? Wait, hold on, hold on,
hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
I lose when he was representing himself, was lying to us.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Isn't he bound by the canons of ethics?

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Though he took an oath the canon, he actually didn't
even take an oath no.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Because he was represented. It's like, do these oaths mean nothing? Like,
I know I took one to protect and survey and
that's oh wait, hold on, oh wait.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
Never by the Supreme Court says that I'm allowed to
lie to people?

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
You know what I heard. I'm hearing it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Now does the Supreme Court say that lawyers are allowed
to light to people? It shouldn't be legal to lie
to the cops. Though I can lie to people, people
can't lie to me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Am, I cake?

Speaker 2 (01:30:08):
What I.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
So is the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Bear? Like what?

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
I don't understand this.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
I mean, you're definitely the bear because we're getting fucked correct.

Speaker 1 (01:30:24):
It's just it's the fact that these again the object
permanence problems of these people.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Have we thought that maybe they all just have ADHD
or do you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Think there's like secretly a gas leak, but like the
pinhole gas leakiest of gas leak where it's just slowly
over the eighteen years, has slowly given them some sort
of carbon monoxide poisoning.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Honestly, that might explain all the murders that happened there
and all the times that they continually have to remodel
or move.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
I feel like, secretly the building that SBU is run
on is is somehow. I don't know where they get it,
so don't fucking ask me. Just straight out of the ground.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
I guess I got it. I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
I figured it out. It's a generator that burns only
leaded gasoline.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
It's it is the it is the the building from
Ghostbusters where all of the all of the slime. So
part two, Yeah, yeah, Part two secret to use.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
That's that's that's t two. That's Turtles two.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
You are the only person I've ever met that refers
to T two Turtles the Ninja turn. I'm not Terminator too.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
I remember I had the tape which it was just
the big two symbol in like a turtle.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Yeah. Also, there isn't no ooze in Terminator too.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
Also true is it ooze though?

Speaker 2 (01:31:49):
And Ghostbusters too? There is ooze. It's slime, but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:31:51):
Oohs well, slimer what with the slimer?

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Yeah, slimer. But I'm wondering what it is about sequels,
and ooz Ooz.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Was big in the eighties and nineties. Man Nickelodeon is
only around today because of slime and ooze.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
It's built or that ooze built listeners, what other sequels
involve oohs? When there isn't ooze in the first There
can be some ooze, a little bit of ooze, but
not like an ooze relation.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Shouldn't be the right.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
My Little Pony movie wait, wait a minute, Okay, hold on,
we have some live listener feedback from LeAnn O'she one
of the My Little Pony sequels also has an ooze
an ooh's issue and news plot point, but they call
it schmooze.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Interesting, Okay, that was just.

Speaker 2 (01:32:50):
Like fucking from the from the upper depth. So they
talked to Olivia against against advice of council, talks to Anna.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Against advice of the prosecution Council.

Speaker 2 (01:33:07):
Yeah, that's her lawyer.

Speaker 1 (01:33:09):
Well, Rida Calhoun's like, no, please talk to my fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Client, please please. So so Doc talks Anna on is like, yeah,
so we originally were in a relationship and it was chill,
and then his brother radicalized him and he hated every
he went nuts. He hated everybody rich people, Jews, gave
people blacks the four food groups, and and uh started

(01:33:34):
you know, raping me. Also, his brother raped me, raped
me for several days, beat me, filmed it. The last
time he raped me was a couple of days ago.
I remember because it was garbage day and I was
just paying attention to the sound of the garbage truck.
By the way, it is on it is on film,
it is on camera on Luca's phone, Please just unlock

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his phone.

Speaker 1 (01:34:01):
And they're like, no, no, why would we do that.
It's devastating to my case.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
She turns to Elizabeth Marvel and she she like brings
out the big gun. She's like, I want to do
a rape kit, wow, playing out all the stops. Olivia,
thank you. And by the way, they don't ever ask
her if she knows Luca's password. I guess the phone
is the screen is cracked.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Yeah, so I guess that. I don't know why. It's
like we'll replace the screen and then fire it back on.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
To fucking open it up. Yeah. So, uh, but they
don't ever ask her whether she knows the pass code.
But sure, I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
Think we're past that. The one would hope like, wouldn't
that be the funniest ending to this episode?

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
One would hope, wouldn't they?

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
One would? But I realized it's the gang. The kid
shoots straight, so you can't assume anything these days. So
it's like, I want to do a rape kit, and
shockingly comes back. Yeah, it turns out she was raped.
If i'd a whole raising and fucking seben and a
whole bunch of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
That is anal bruising vaginal bruising out like exterior, they're
just like bruising on her stomach.

Speaker 1 (01:35:10):
Yeah, And Dodds is pissed off and the squadron being like,
what are you a defense attorney? Now It's like again
what I And Barbara's there being like I told you
not to do this. This is all your fault. Meanwhile,
Dodd's is like, you're you're doing your job. Your job
got my fucking son killed, and Barbara's like, hey, he
didn't mean that. It's like oh a.

Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Certainly, Oh my god, are kidding me? And so Barbara's like,
so she was raped, it doesn't mean she didn't do
two murders, which is true, and Olivia is like, so
she did two murders maybe because of the fact that
she was raped and coerced and and Dodds is like,
what if we just didn't investigate the rape. It's much

(01:35:53):
cleaner that way, drop the rape cleaner and lives like,
but that's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
The literally my only job this is But she's a victim,
and like, we don't get to pick our perpetrators or
our victims, Like isn't that literally like a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
No oh no, no, we get to pick them when
they're white.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
Right, But she's I mean, once again fall multipurpose, Brad.
It's it's I can see you're eating mayonnaise, but I
don't know why. Yeah, so, uh, I don't know if
it's requested or doesn't know that it's on the sandwich.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
So the so on is played by Natia Dune, who
is from the country of Georgia.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Okay, so you know, does it not doesn't it's.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Not not crazy far away from Bosnia, but.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
Yeah, you got you're in the you're in the ballpark.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
Still not like the excuse me, the brownest country.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
You're you're regionally accurate, correct.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
So yeah. So they also discover if only they had
some sort of smoking gun evidence that she was raped,
then they could maybe think about it. Oh wait, the
DNA on her son came back and it is not
It is her son, but it's not Luca's son. It
is Armand's son. Even though Arman claims that he never

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had sex with her.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Well, then clearly the test must be wrong of Eve.

Speaker 2 (01:37:27):
Yeah, yeah, they're half brothers. It must be some kind
of error, right.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
Uh. No, it turns out the other guy is just
a fucking rapist as well, who denies it. And then
they're like, we have your DNA. That's you're the father
of the kid. He's like, all right, so I may
have had sex with her a handful times, but she
seduced me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Here's my thing. It's not as it turns out. She
basically it wasn't a mister she said it.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
She was like according, I'm like, according to him. This
is his side of the story.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Yeah. Yeah, by the way, from the corrections department. The
smooth is from My Little Poe the movie, which I
believe is the first My Little Pony movie. Oh, Friendship
is Magic is the second one. Okay, yeah, eighty eighty six.
My Little Pony the movie. I believe it's the big

(01:38:16):
kind of sequel to the show. But uh, yeah, I
don't know. Yeah, starring Danny DeVito as the smooth huh
oh no, I'm sorry. Danny DeVito plays the grundle kitten.

Speaker 1 (01:38:33):
Oh boy, I don't know if that's better or worse.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Joe Joe Bauman is the smooths Amen Joe Bowman member
of the band Shan Na Na. I have to, I
have to, I have to, I have to navigate away.
So Armand says she's a whore. I was. I'm expecting her,
I'm expecting h to be like we were in love.
But he's like, she's a horror. I did have sex

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with her because she's such a slut. By the way,
she turned my brother into a killer, a radical. And
he implies that she manipulated Luca into like joining isis
or whatever. But he's really grasping his straws and he
invokes his right to a lawyer, and Olivia says, you're
going down with her without a lawyer. You can't can't

(01:39:23):
say that, though then you.

Speaker 1 (01:39:24):
Can still give him a lawyer, though I think in
fact you're required to.

Speaker 2 (01:39:28):
Day. This isn't like a this isn't like a get
one last lick in, And so it's like I will say,
I'll give this episode some credit. It is kind of interesting.
The question of even though she was raped, is she
culpable for doing this? Is like this Vengali brainwash thing,

(01:39:51):
But that's not really the She's like the hostage. She's
a hostage. It's like relatively clear that she didn't pull
the trigger. She was forced to be there. All she
wants is her kid. She's like, very very can prove
that she was raped. So like, what are we what
are we doing here? And uh? And so Rita Calhoun

(01:40:13):
calls Olivia as a witness for the defense. Stupid dumb,
I mean, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
What else? What else is she going to do at
that point, because literally everyone in the police department and
the prosecutor's office are just like, no, we're getting a
maxed out convictioned on this and that's it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
Yeah. Yeah. And so after coming back from trial, Dodds
like kind of repeats himself and is like, are you
a copperary defense lawyer? Pretend you're on our side not theirs,
And the way he says there's yeah, there's a little
backspin on it, but like there's a real opportunity for

(01:40:58):
her to be like I'm on the side of the truth,
and he's like, you can't handle the truth. The truth
is like, I'm on the.

Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
Side of victims, her being like this our slain officer
and her like.

Speaker 2 (01:41:11):
But this case is different. Live parentheses.

Speaker 1 (01:41:15):
This lady's brown, right, because I think Barbara has the line.
He's like, I get it. We're being attacked in Orlando,
San Bernardino, Dallas. I was like, well, wait a second,
hold on Dallas. I don't remember much about but I
remember was that, uh was that a terrorist thing? Or
like I thought it was just like a crazy white
dude that didn't like the.

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Cops, which is terrorism but different.

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
But isn't it funny? Sure? Because I'm thinking, like, well,
they charged Luigi, who was with us by the way,
that hanging out with but they charged it with terrorism.
One person or two people were shot and three injured
in this shoot His.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Name, his name ain't William, it's Luigi. It's only a
matter of time untill Italians are white anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
I'm just saying, when you put it up against the
fact that we have so many shootings on a on
a nigh on daily basis the fact that they're not
all charged to terrorism, and yet some of them are.
Doesn't that seem strange?

Speaker 2 (01:42:13):
Ye, yeah, that terrorism may as well just be the
sand end word, yes, which you know, not a great
thing called somebody. So they Olivia is like listen, sorry,
Barbara's like, listen, it's time to cut of deal for

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Ana's sake, because like we're definitely gonna convict her.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
Like he's not. He's just like it's just gonna happen,
Like no matter what I do, that lady is going away.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
And Elizabeth Barber's like, due process is the carterstone of
our American justice system unless the words radical Islam are involved.
And Barber's like that is accurate. Now please take this deal.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
He's like, man, I'm not saying I'm happy about it,
but yeah, that's I need.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
I need a win. It's been a long year.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
Come on, man, just just do just get it. Just
do it, like, come on, ste it. And so, so
the deal is.

Speaker 2 (01:43:21):
Murder one twenty years and just take the death penalty
off and like maybe the possibility of parole, but you
have to prosecute my rapist armand because he is the
father of my child biologically, and so we don't we

(01:43:42):
need him away from the child because not only is
he a rapist, but he's also a terrorist and going
to like make this little boy a terrorist. And Barbara's like,
I can't do it. No deal, no deal.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
And then Elizabeth Barber was like, dude, you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
Don't have to just just fucking look at me in
the eye and nod. And he's like, can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
And then he's I figure what he says, we least,
but it's like he caves a little bit as like
I'll see what I can do type situation.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
I'll do my best. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:44:11):
But then it turns out and the next thing this
best is like, well we have all this evidence, and
in my boss is like, no, we're still not doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
I will, I will say one thing before we go
into this next scene, which is exactly what happens. We
get the wide shot finally when he leaves the room
and there's another person in the room just sort of
like staring guard. It's like a guard like I don't
know if you should be talking about the like this
is definitely not legal what you're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:44:35):
Yeah, none of this is admissible in court anyway, Like
none of this is like that that person has no privilege,
so none of this information is privileged anymore, so that
person could go and talk, right, So I mean I
think so like in the room, nothing in there is confidential,
then nothing in there that's privileged.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
But also they are both agreeing that he has been
raped and this guy is the one that raped her.
So I'm like that that probably is the part that
should be admissible, correct, where Elizabeth Barber's like, hey, you
were in the room when he said he would try.

Speaker 1 (01:45:12):
Here's a subpoena, thank you, so uh.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Yeah, so Barbara in fact, is not going to try.
And Olivia's like, but we have her testimony, we have
his DNA, and he's the father of her kid biologically, like,
isn't that enough? And He's like, usually it would be
dot dot dot do you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:36):
Really think so? But not in this case, And so.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
They they don't. They don't even allow Arman to say this.
But Barbara's like, you know, he's just gonna say that
she's a whore who creates off sex and also a terrorist.
And she's and Olivia's like, what if there was a video?
And Barba's like, you didn't tell me that there was
a video of the rape.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
I think he's also secretly like why would there be
a video of this.

Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Why who would film that, you fucking asshole. I had
to go in there and cut a deal and then
take it to my boss, and my boss said, fuck you,
you fucking idiot. And there was a video this entire
time on a device that you have on your person

(01:46:27):
you just don't know how to turn on.

Speaker 1 (01:46:30):
That's right, what of it?

Speaker 2 (01:46:34):
Are you cute? We got to go to the back
of the manufacturer again. So we're in court with the manufacturer,
not Apple, right Banana.

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Snapplephones and Snapple phones is basically like our customers desire security.
Thank you your honor, That's basically and Barber's like fuck that,
and then we just cut make It's like, hey, so
we we got the phone open.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
And no, no, they didn't even get the phone open.
A Liby's like fuck it, I'm gonna arrest him anyway.
And then don't they got.

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
Back to the where Barbara is saying something to the
effect of like, all right, well, we got every we
got everything that we needed.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
I don't think I don't think they got everything that
they needed. I think Barbara's like where fucked and Olivey's
like I'm gonna go get him anyway because when she
gets there, he's being black bagged, so it doesn't really matter, right,
Oh all's well that ends well?

Speaker 1 (01:47:28):
Oh am I thinking of like Barba's telling Live that like, Okay,
she got the twenty years and I'm gonna see what
I can do about the other case. Rrect ok yeah,
yeah yeah, So liv is just like fuck it, I
round it up a posse and I'm arresting this guy
and yeah, FBI is already there and he's in a
very secure facility.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Dick Wolf that's actually not dick Wolf because they have
a coda scene with Olivia and Tucker where so first
they they they give on some time with Ali and
Olivia's staring at Ali like I got upgrade. This episode
feels seven hours long, and then there's a code of

(01:48:07):
scene with her and Tucker where they're sort of like
strolling down the street and Olivia's like, I've never been happier,
much like Cassie in Euphoria, I've never been this is
the happiest I've ever been and uh, and she's like,
but that means I'm afraid that it will go away,

(01:48:28):
and Tucker's like, don't worry, Olivia, I will protect you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
I will never die.

Speaker 2 (01:48:37):
Yeah, I, me and my Innocence Project will take you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
This was a rough one, man, This one was fucking terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
This is a this is a this is a dog
shit episode.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
Yeah, it's uh and it's the first one of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
So I can't wait to fly this plan right now.
Boy fucking mountain. So we're we're off to a great
start with Rick Rick Ead from Trivia Corner. That's it's
our dick well from Trivia Corner. That's the goofs oh
and boy are there a lot of them. During an

(01:49:18):
argument with Barba about pursuing the rape case, Benson says,
we don't get to invent our victims. That's I don't
think that, that's what she says. This mirror is Don
Cragan's line, we don't get to pick the vic which
is in the season premiere, which is where like a
John gets his dick bit off. That's what happens in

(01:49:39):
the right in the pilot. This is the first episode
where Marishka is credited as an executive producer. Pay Bump,
Pay Bump. It's been fucking eighteen years. This is the
first episode with a single word title since the season
twelve finale Smoked and Terrek Bishara, who played armand Sidron

(01:50:06):
the black Bag Terrorist, has already played on SVU. In
season nine, episode eleven, an episode called street Wise. Can
you guess what his character's name? Oh? Wow, can you
guess what his character's name was? We talked about this

(01:50:28):
Mohammad time is it Mohammed? No, it's Cole Roderick because
Tariq Bashara used to go by Tom Bishops and all
the way back in season nine, which is the episode
with May Whitman from Arrest Development, a lot of Arrest
of Development references. In this episode, we mentioned that this

(01:50:52):
guy Tom Bishops and the credits comes back with his
real person name Tariq Bashara nine years later. And I
believe we both said, like, well, I hope we're both dead.

Speaker 1 (01:51:05):
Well, I still do hope that we're dead, but we're not.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
Yeah. And even though this episode says it's not ripped
from the headlines up front, it is very clearly ripped
from the headlines of the San Bernardino case, including a
a man and woman shooter, the apple, the Apple phones
thing which Matt mentioned, and all this other stuff. Yeah,

(01:51:30):
this case also led to the all rits, all Rits
Act as its legal basis. What is the All Rits Act? Oh,
that's the thing that they mentioned in in this proceeding,
which is the law that was passed in seventeen ninety
eight that allows federal courts to issue extraordinary writs like
such as injunctions, necessary to uphold their jurisdiction. But it

(01:51:54):
does not grant new jurisdiction. It functions as a catch
all authority for courts to compel action to suspend decisions
or enforce orders when no other statutory, rule, statutory or
rule based remedy exists. There's no way that that will backfire.

Speaker 1 (01:52:14):
Who could think of a cause that someone could use
this for? That would be evil?

Speaker 2 (01:52:20):
Who could from the Goof's apartment, when Olivia know are
in the park and Olivia's phone rings, her jacket is
off and on the second ring her jackets back on.
She wouldn't have time to put her jacket back on
between rings. This is actually a problem I'm having with
my edit of Cabaret. There's a scene where it was
an outdoor theater and it was a it was called

(01:52:40):
One of the Knights, and so one of the performance
takes I can't use because one of the actors is
wearing wearing a jacket way to go. The pistol that
the little boy has in the park is a glock. However,
the gun pictured on the evidence board is supposed to
be the same block, but it's not. It's it's a
Springfield XD. So Acid Base thirty two is alive and well.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
And when Barbara answers question from the crowd of journalists,
when the lady is holding up the sign and says
no more terror, several handheld digital recorders are supposed to
be recording his comments. None of them are turned on.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
I love the little petty bullshit all the goopes Yeah.
On the goofsboard.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Speaking of petty bullshit, this is one of the ones
that we both brought up. Which brought up, which is
Olivia throws away a coffee cup and it lands on
a newspaper highlighting the death of Sergeant Dodds. The death
was weeks prior to this scene, as Olivia had already
been to Paris and Beck, so it is very unlikely
that there would be a Crisp Week's old newspaper laying
on the top of a trash can in a popular

(01:53:49):
area of Central Park.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
So each shit episode.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Take that art department and from user review corner Wo
Boy true So from Andre Joseph Povic one out of
ten stars, ignorant.

Speaker 1 (01:54:12):
Whatever do you mean?

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
This episode was my least favorite. It gave me a
good laugh because it did not depict Bosnians correctly. You
have a girl and a guy named Anna and Luca.
By the names, you can tell they are of Christian descent.
They have a kid named Ali, Muslim name. Luca happens
to be a terrorist that has a closet where he
has guns and an Arabic an Arabic writing a man

(01:54:36):
with a common Christian name. It doesn't make sense at all.
They are immigrants and one of the characters spoke better
English than me. Very ignorant episode, and from We'll do
a couple more from Love It's Love It's Tough from
March at The ignorant thing was from January fifteen, twenty two.

(01:54:57):
January fifteenth, twenty twenty two Love It's Tough, March eleventh,
twenty eighteen, five ed of ten stars. Anna was and
or is totally and completely innocent five at ten stars.
Anna may have had a gun over her shoulder, but
she did not fire a shot. She did not hurt

(01:55:17):
or kill anybody, just like in their own country. Anna,
a female, was completely under the men's control, but she
never fired or a shot or killed or hurt anybody.
I am a US marine and these are my opinions
and beliefs. Unfortunately, even in reality, a female like Anna

(01:55:39):
female would be railroaded just like Anna is in this episode.
So I cannot say one way or another whether it
is bad writing or good writing. So I would have
to say it is neither. Anna should not have been
charged with anything at all since she did not fire
a shot or hurt or kill anyone at all. But
the question is did she fire a shot or hurt

(01:56:01):
or kill anyone at all? Yes? Now, and lastly, but
not leastly, this is from This Is Weirdly the featured review.
There's a new featured review section from Patrick Fair Phai
R from April twenty second, twenty twenty two. Four out

(01:56:22):
of ten stars, too Much Olivia Wow. Episode was Yeah.
This episode was a tough one to watch, but not
only for the subject matter, but for watching Olivia do
whatever she wanted to do exactly when she was put
in charge of all of NYPD. Just too much this time.

(01:56:42):
That's our episode for this week. Low Order SVU Season eighteen,
Episode one, Terrorized. If you agree or disagree with us,
if you think Anna did not fire a shot or
hurt or kill anyone at all, let us know you
podcast on Blue Sky and Instagram. On Instagram say hi

(01:57:05):
to Sarah Prime who is our Instagram manager. And uh
and Lee and uh you let us little know what
do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:57:14):
Guys? You can take that to the black the bank,
the blood bak s editor, thank you for doing that.
That's old. Thank loger weird or so special view in
unis Gmail dot screw, excuse me, strudle gmail dot com
and give us a written reviewer for fine.

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Podcasts are sold except for Spotify. Fuck spot Spotify. I
did learn on Spotify, which I'm still listening to you unfortunately,
that you can block artists.

Speaker 1 (01:57:39):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:40):
Yeah, you can use the drop down menu and say like,
don't play this artist anywhere. So I've blocked Pearl Jam Sorry, Sonia,
Red Hot Chili Peppers Beck for some reasons. My Spotify
thinks I really want to listen to Beck. Huh, yeah,
so I blocking some bands.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
I didn't know you had such an issue with beck.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
I don't really I think too much. I'm just like,
stop trying to give me back. I've never like once
been like you know what, I want to hear to
turntables on a microphone.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
That's good song.

Speaker 2 (01:58:11):
Yeah, fine, and tune in next week when you view,
and when we review and review and lovingly ridicule a
lot of order. SVU Season eighteen, episode episode two, entitled making.

Speaker 1 (01:58:24):
A Rapist's it like a build a bear workshop?

Speaker 2 (01:58:28):
I kind of is You're not gonna like this man?

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
You don't say I didn't like this one, so you know, no, No, are.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
There any sharps near you? No. A man convicted of
rape is exonerated and released sixteen years later. However, on
the night of his release, the daughter of the woman
he was convicted of raping is also raped and murdered,
and he is as use prime suspect. You should be
thinking to yourself, that's not that bad. Why did I

(01:59:04):
Why did I make such a big deal out of it?
Because joining us in a cameo next week is future
President of the United States Joe Biden.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
Fucking what.

Speaker 2 (01:59:24):
That's right? Current Vice President of the United States. As
of the airing of this episode, lame duck sleepy Joe
Biden makes an uncredited cameo in this episode, and like

(01:59:46):
does a scene with Olivia. You want to see a picture?

Speaker 1 (01:59:50):
No, I really freely don't. You're gonna send it to
me anyway, so you might as well just do it.
I'm gonna watch an episode of it next week. What
the fuck?

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
I can't fucking wait for that? Oh wait, yes I
really can. So.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
Yeah, as as I mentioned, hide the sharps, because that
one's gonna be that's one's gonna really fuck with me.

Speaker 1 (02:00:16):
Jesus fucking Christ. What in the fucking hell?

Speaker 2 (02:00:20):
And until then that one? Really what a.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
Way to end this episode? Sorry, I mean, I guess
I'd better rather know about it now than just have
it happen next week.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
I guess it's this is based on uh the Steven
Avery case, you remember, making a murderer that guy? So
that so we're in for a real fucking treat. Uh
until then four? What if we just die before then?

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
We can hope? Man?

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
Until then four Law and Order Special viewing Unit. I'm
a oh oh wait wait wait wait wait, I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry. Sorry. Also joining us next week, Henry Thomas,
the little boy from.

Speaker 1 (02:01:07):
ET, Joe Biden and the Little Boy from ET.

Speaker 2 (02:01:13):
This episode has everything. Yeah and until then four Lot
Order special view unit. Oh and Sarah Malone plays woman.
I'm a Vive Rubenstein and.

Speaker 1 (02:01:22):
I'm Matt Reuter. We will see you guys next week,
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