Pastor Andy Greer went from fundraising for the Nebraska Cornhuskers to preaching from the pulpit at Messiah Lutheran Church. His story shines a light on one of the most controversial discussions in the Lutheran Church—Missouri Synod: the Specific Ministry Pastor (SMP) program.
In this honest and hope-filled conversation, Tim and Andy tackle the ongoing tension between residential seminary training and SMP pathways, the need for new leadership models in growing churches, and how to stay centered on Christ and His mission amid theological division.
They also touch on the recent tragedy of Charlie Kirk’s assassination, the church’s response to political violence, and the call for unity in a polarized time.
Whether you’re a pastor, lay leader, or simply care about the future of the LCMS, this conversation is a must-listen.
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