November 9, 2025 • 38 mins
Content creator Alicia joins the show to talk about her weight loss journey that she is actively sharing on TikTok, her life growing up in Kentucky and what it was like to come out in her mid-20s.
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
Welcome to the Lesbian Chronicles. Hello, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Did you find a new place? It looks like you're
back in the closet.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm back in the class, still not doing no, but
that is funny that now I'm recording in a closet again.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What the hell?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah? I think I've mentioned this on the other episodes,
but my new house one of the like at the
master closet, the second closet has it was set up
to be an office, so I've I've been working from here.
But yeah, like, I've got like clothes in here and.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's good make the sound better, yeah, I guess so, But.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The Wi Fi is not great? Like it it I
was trying to do therapy the other day and it
ruined the last ten minutes of my therapy session. Oh shit,
I need to get like one of those boosters or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But the suburb it's the boosters are always Whenever I
go places that are like really remote, like when I'm traveling,
I always they have the booster. So I'm like picturing you.
I mean, you're like in the suburbs, like it shouldn't
be that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But it's it's wild here, Like it's I don't know
if you realize this, but Peachtree City is very like planned. Yeah,
and they don't allow like no one wants to sell
phone tower in their backyard and there's like very few
and so self service sucks. My internet so far has
not been great. And yeah, I'm like, I feel like
(02:11):
I'm living in the dark ages here. Like I lost
my internet last night at uh three forty five in
the morning with fifteen minutes to go on my shift
and I'm like cool, like and my hotspot's barely working.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, that's the whole thing that would cost me six stress.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah. Anyway, how was your Halloween? You guys had a
block party.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We had Actually Halloween was chill, like we had friends
for dinner and just passed out candy and did the thing.
But the next day our neighborhood. We did our first annual,
Like we just threw a block party like right on
my block, and we thought, like this neighborhood, you know,
you know, it's like it's very gay, but it's also
has old people, young people, black people, white people, Spanish people,
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like it's extremely diverse. And so myself and like a
couple other people just like put flyers in mailboxes having
no idea.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
What was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We had I bet we had over one hundred people
on my right outside my house.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It looked like porch fest, dude, That's why I know.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So I thought people are like craving and it was
like fun because it would be like this seventy year
old woman and then this like tatted up like young person,
Like I don't know. It just felt so fun to
me that it was like this is the block. It
was like Sesame Street.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
It's just like so cool.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, it ended up being super fun. We had a
keg and just great conversations with all kinds of people
that you see around but you have no idea who
they are.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I mean it is kind of like Halloween is
like this time when you go out and like kind
of meet with your neighbors. We went to a neighborhood
that I used to live in, and you know, my
ex husband he knows a lot of people around this area.
I really don't know anybody, but it was fun to like,
you know, he's seeing people that he knows the whole
time and we're talking to people and like that. That
neighborhood that we go to so well set up, Like
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the houses are really close together. They're just like, kno,
going to hang it out. But what was funny is
like the difference between now, like they're eleven and thirteen
years old. Like now they're like, you know, sauntering to
each house.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
They don't really care.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Like they were all like running everywhere. Yeah, like terrified
they're gonna hit by a car. And like now it's like, dude,
can you guys like pick up the pace a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, it's like, come on, guys, come on. I know
it's kind of depressing though, right it is.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm like getting bigger thirteen. I don't know how long
she's going to allow us to like tag along with
her trick or treating.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, damn, dude, I get that. I feel that because
our youngest didn't even or treat with us at all anymore.
Like he went to friends houses and I was like, yeah,
punch to the gut.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I know, it's like being slowly broken up with.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It's being slowly broken up with. I had to eat
lunch with your child today and they I went, and
he's fourteen, and like I'm sitting there with him with
you know, We're having all this food.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm like making small talk and then he like.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Ditches me, and so I'm like sitting there by myself
looking around. I'm like, God, this is like I'm a
complete loser, Like I don't have no one's no one's.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Talking to me. I'm like I literally went up to him.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I'm like, dude, don't leave me.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Kid. Yeah, the cool kids. So anyway, I got a
little taste of middle school.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yes, I'm sur they still do that in middle school.
I don't think like Caleinn would be mortified if I
showed up to the seventh grade lunch room to eat
with her.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I know, I was kind of surprised how many parents didn't.
Like a lot of his friends were there and they're like, yeah,
my mom didn't come, and I'm like, oh god, maybe
it wasn't like I wasn't supposed to exactly, but anyway,
I was there.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I was there in full of fact.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think mine yesterday, my are Thanksgiving meal for my
son was the last one. Yeah, that you're gonna be
able to do. And he's such a sweetheart. He wants
to like still like blow me a kiss as I'm leaving.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh my god, I was like pushing me out. Oh
it's like crushed soul.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I know, I know I'm about to have my soul
crushed as well. Like by next year sixth grade, he's
gonna be like who are you?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, yeah, no, And he's like the social kid. My
other middle one who before him, wasn't. So it was
like we both clung to each other. So yeah, but anyway,
he did different.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
He doesn't need me.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But you got us a really cool guest. I've been like,
I'm not even on TikTok and I've watched a bunch
of them. So anyway, I'll let you introduce Melissa.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah. So gosh, it's probably about a month or maybe
two months ago that Alicia started popping up on my TikTok.
And I just love your positive attitude. You're you're posting
about your weight loss, journey and also like, you live
in the in the area that I used to live in,
so you're posting cities that I'm familiar with. But welcome, Alicia,
(06:57):
thank you for joining us on the show. You're You're
doing an amazing job with your tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So yeah, I should say.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I played them for my girlfriend last night. I was like,
we were just we ended up just like getting lost
in them. I'm like, oh, here's another one, here's another one.
Like You're very funny, and I got sucked in.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I have to say, oh.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Thank you so much. It's been a it's a little
wild ride.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, the past few.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Months, it's been pretty crazy. I appreciate that thing.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Did your following just grow like what, like, have you
always had this many or did it just like explode recently?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
It just exploded. So I've I've been doing social media
for some time, but those accounts have since been private
and they didn't get anywhere near to what I'm at now,
Like I maybe add one thousand followers on my private TikTok,
and then I decided to start posting about my weight loss,
and it just slowly just started to kind of swell
and then explode. What do you think that's about what
(07:52):
I think is about.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
What do Why do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Was it like one particular viral situation or was it
like people, this is fucking resonating.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It was definitely one particular one video in particular is
what I Eat in a Day video, okay, And while
I was doing the voiceover, I was like thinking, well,
I don't know if I want to say that, because
that's not palatable, and I'm like, you know, I fucking care,
I'm just gonna say it anyway. Excuse me, I.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Go for it.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I was like, I don't, I don't care. I'm gonna
say whatever I want. I'm gonna say what I'm thinking,
and I guess we'll see what happens there. And then
that TikTok just kind of blew up. I think it's
over two million views now, maybe even more. And then
that started to kind of get people to do reactions
video reactions to my videos, mostly fitness influencers and or
(08:43):
fit influencers or nutritionalness and whatnot, and then it just
kind of grew from there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Were they nice or were they being decks?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
They were nice? And that's I was terrified of that
because the first time I saw video. My heart sank.
I'm like, here we.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Here, we go, here we go.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
There's the first person to attack my my nutritional choices.
But he was great, and and everybody there after that.
Actually it was a woman. It was a one. I
can't remember her name. I follow her right now, but
it's escaped to me because I'm just everywhere. But it
was and she was super nice, and everybody has been
very nice after. If anyone's giving me a battery, I've
(09:22):
just not seen it, Like I'm I've been waiting for it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I've been there. Well, what's funny is I feel like
you've got like an army of followers who would like
immediately have your back for it.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And they do it, and we do. Yeah, I don't
even I don't even need to say anything to anybody
in the comments anymore, which I typically don't because I
just that's just too mentally taxing. But sometimes someone will
say that one thing. I'm just like, let me shuk.
This guy is real quick, but they just like go
in like gaggles. Yet not. I don't want to say
(09:57):
attack them, but they're like you in the wrong place?
Are you new here?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
New here? Well that's the.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Thing like with TikTok. I feel like, you know, like
Facebook is for the bullies, TikTok is for the positivity. Yeah,
so when someone shows up and they're in the comments
like being mean, people are like, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, this isn't where you belong, right.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, And it's not. It's not even just on TikTok.
Because that's that's why I started posting. Was first on
TikTok because is what you said, like, you generally see
the more positive comments in the positive like reinforcement from
people in the comment section on TikTok. And then I
went to Instagram and they're there also, And I've just
recently started posting to Facebook and it's just positivity there too,
(10:39):
And I don't know why. I guess I'm just hashtag blessed,
not a not a clue, but everybody's just so freaking
nice and supportive. You'll have that one dick, but they
end up deleting their comment or blocking me or the
people commenting back to them. But I've just been so
lucky to have to have the support and the rallying
(11:02):
behind the atrocious humans that just want to pick shit apart,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
When I watched a little bit, it was like you,
so you lost a bunch of weight and then gained
weight back and then lost Like tell me about like
what happens to create a situation where maybe you're you know,
back down and yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
So the the first time I lost, it was almost
one hundred pounds, and then COVID hit I was really
heavy into the gym like that was my biggest routine
and a knocked my routine with anything, it's just gonna
mess me up. And I think that did it to
a lot of people who were on their weight loss
road trips or journeys, we'll call it. So COVID knocked
me down. And then it just kind of started to
(11:43):
be out of sight, out of mind. Then I went
through another breakup and I just didn't care anymore. Stuff
just hit away in the bedroom, in the bed, yeah, snacks,
door dash, binge, watching, binge, eating, and it just slowly
started creeping up. I just kept saying, those those decades
on the scale go up, you know, did.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You do that?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Like were you someone who was like you're weighing yourself
or you're like you know, like I know, if I
have a bad week of eating, like I feel different.
So was it like you were like, ah, fuck, here
I go, like, I'm you knew it?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Oh yeah, I definitely knew it. And there were some
little spurts in there where I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna
get back on my bullshit. Yeah, I get back on
my bullshit. And then I would get back on my
bullshit for like a couple of weeks, and then something
would happen. It would piss me off or make me
sad or make me happy, and I would celebrate with
alcohol and food. So those are my celebratory things. Those
are my coping things. And it just got to be
(12:40):
like this never ending cycle of bad decisions hindering the
goal that I was trying to set for myself. And
then it just slowly bloomed up to a space where
I was just like, fucking yeah, just gonna die in
his bed and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And then what would eventually then be like Nope, this isn't.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So funny. I was traveling to Atlanta for work, okay,
and y'all's airport can suck it, dude.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I was there yesterday.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It literally I literally looked at the person with me
and I said, my parents couldn't do this. Yeah, they
are well traveled, they get around great. I'm like, this
would be too stressful, too much action. You got the
too luggage on the the luggage on the escalator.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's too fucking much.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
It's too it's too much, and especially for someone who
was at that time fucking for four hundred pounds lugging
around my luggage, trying to find my gate, going through security,
standing for so long, it was just too painful. And
then I was like, I'm gonna do something really iggy
right now. I have my phone, was pretending my phone,
and I got to my seat first and I turned
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my my my camera on and I took like a
little video of me sitting in the seat and my
belly was almost touching the seat in front of me,
and I was like, this is it? Like what the fuck?
That I would start to feel the frustration from people
sitting beside me because my fat legs were like pour
it over into their seat a little bit, like I
(14:13):
gotta be the one to sit next to the fat bitch,
you know. I could feel that I get it, right,
I get it. I don't want to be close to
other people either. But I'm like I'm by this window.
I'm huge as much as I can't. But that was it.
That was the moment where I was like, I gotta
do something.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I have to.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I can't do this anymore for that travel a lot, yeah,
for work, especially by plane, and like I can't right it?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Do people do like do you think that's really happening
or do you think that's your perception of what's happening,
Like if you, like, if I sat down next to
somebody overweight, I'm like going above and beyond to be
like super sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Do you think it's perceived or do you think it's real?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I think it's I think it's more perceived than it
is real, because I've had people like you like you
you say you try to just be overly not over yea,
I've had that, and I'm just like, thank god. But
it's if you if you ever sit next to a
fat person on an airplane, they're probably thinking this person
beside me is just hate me right now, and that's
(15:14):
that's just terrible. Yeah, it is, you know, and that's
from social media. You find tiktoks and stuff of people
bitching about fat people on planes and having to sit
next to them and stuff. You don't see that more
than anything else, but it's out there, and as soon
as you see it, they're like, okay, is this what
everybody thinks?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Now?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
So that's the fear. That's the fear of it. So
when I have someone nice that's like chatty with me,
I'm like dope. And when i have someone who's not
chatty with me, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Like, fuck, I hate me.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
This is gonna be a shitty two hour yea so much.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I had a friend who was heavy that said that
she's like, I hate ordering because I feel like people
are like judging my order. Do you ever have that
feeling of like or did you when you were overweight,
have the feeling of like they're watching the order?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
No? No, But I've also heard of people saying that
and saying that they're scared to eat in public. They're
scared of people watching the meat.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I didn't care about that. Yeah, but I have a
I have a friend. She and I used to do
this and she was not as over as overweight as
I am right now. But we actually think.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You look great right now.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Like I I literally thought that right when I got
on the zoo.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you look like an average woman to me.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Oh, thank you so much. Well, we had this hack
that if we'd go through drive through and order food,
like we'd want to order a lot of food, right,
so we would order two drinks to make it seem.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Like two people.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
That's amazing, eighteen spoons, eighteen.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You can't see them, but they're here. You're a big group.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, I gotta take out. We have a party. My
friend even told me she was like, I was on
the phone in the draft roo pretending to talk to
somebody doing my order around like, oh you bitched.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Oh my god, speaks to like the mental load that
you're carrying. All. Yeah, it's not just like they, but
like mentally you're having to work harder. Have you noticed,
like with losing some weight and everything, that that's like
lessened a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, Like now I'm not like I hate going to
Walmart anyway because it stinks in there, the music sucks,
it's always hot. But now I'm not as annoyed with
going in there because before I was also annoyed with
having to walk around, like doing little things like that
that wouldn't be a second thought to someone who wasn't
as overweight. As I am doing things like that is nice.
(17:42):
I don't dread it anymore. But there's a lot of
that mental load that's taken off with just the weight
that I've lost already, and I still have so much
more to go.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Tell us a little bit about what life was like
growing up, Like where did you grow up? And you
know what was your didn't even mention you had a
twin brother, right, So yeah, that's sounds interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yes, I grew up in a really small town called Grayson, Kentucky.
And when I'm talking to somebout I'm talking about like
four digits four digits long, like maybe three thousand people
in this town. You could count the stop lights on
your hands and feet, maybe not even your feet. But
it was a nice little country place in Kentucky. I'm
not a huge outdoorsy country person, so I found my
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little friend group of like the same legs and dislikes,
but played out. It was in the I think it
was one of the last generations where we played outside
a lot as a kid and not on her phones.
So growing up is good. I grew and lived with
my mom. She's who's a nurse, very hard working, supported
us by herself. Number one all the time. My dad
(18:52):
remarried and we got to visit him sometimes. Still had
a good relationship with him, So had a little friend group.
Grew up in the closet, but I guess very visibly
I was not hiding my gayness, so I.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Heard, I mean none of us were.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah to realize, I don't know. So yeah, grew up
in Grayson, Kentucky. I went to school at Marshall University
in Huntington, West Virginia for a couple of years from music,
music education, and I dropped out. I didn't want to
do that anymore, and I started working in sales.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I could see you being good at that.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
It's fun. A lot of money be made there.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah for sure, because not very many people are good
at it, and it's.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Not for everybody, but there's a there's definitely a lot
of a lot of money making potential there. And now
I train and I train these people. So whenever you
hear me talking about my students or a classroom, I
train for sales at the company that I work for.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Where are you now in your weight? Like, are you
where you want to be? Or you're still losing weight?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
No, I'm not where I want to be. I'm still
losing way. Yeah, I still Uh, I've got lunch and
dinner to prep after this, after after I get done
with your own because he's some friends. But yeah, I'm
nowhere near where I want to be.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You travel a lot, and I think that's like probably
one of your biggest challenges, you know, like being on
the road and finding food and being like healthy. What's
like the thing there that like the secret? I guess
like that you've kind of found the workaround right now.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well, when I travel out of town, I do it
for about two weeks at a time, So instead of
pissing my money away fast food, I just get groceries
and I get a hotel with the little kitchen with
a fridge. So it's like just like I'm at home.
Sometimes I'll take something with me. I take my scale
with me every fucking where I go. My food scale
(20:48):
goes with me. So yeah, I have to because you
think you can eyeball it, but you're wrong most of
the times. Yeah, So just making better decisions like that.
Sometimes I'll just even go on Google if I haven't
made anything, just typing lowest calorie fast food that I
(21:08):
can get really quick. That's you know the best option,
and there's some out there, but you just got a plan.
Bring some tools with you, like my little scale and
water jug and you know whatever plan accordingly in my
little kitchenette. Make some recipes. You know something that I
know that I can make in a room where I
don't have everything.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
What would be like a go to for you?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Lately it's been my yogurt bowl that I've been making
for breakfasts because I can do that with plain, non
fat greek yogurt and a couple of sugar free Joe
pudding packs or a protein powder that's for breakfast. Or
I can do a turkey sandwich with thirty five calorie
slice Keto bread, or I make my own tacos with
lean pork, and like these little cornt where tea is
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that are one hundred calories for three of them. So
really it's just about knowing food, knowing what kind of
nutrition is behind that food, Like you got Every every
time I go to the store and buy something, I
look at the like that I'm looking at the nutritional facts.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
If I don't read it, and if it doesn't have
it on there, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I do feel like there's a lot to like
educate yourself on that, Like we just don't learn growing up,
Like it was something that I didn't start paying attention
to until like my late twenties and being like wait
a second, like food is fuel, and like what I
eat eat matters and how I feel, And it's just
like I wish it was more spoken about with kids
(22:37):
to kind of learn that aspect of eating.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah, I agree to, and especially growing up in Kentucky,
my mom is a Southern cook boy, so you know,
we we ate for pleasure, not fuel, you know what
I mean. I wasn't always fat as a kid, but
I didn't just like you, and I didn't start paying
attention to nutritional facts for information or trying to learn
(23:01):
about food until I was probably in my mid twenties,
the first time that I really tried to get on
my bullshit, you know. So I think it should definitely
have a little bit more of a highlight and education
for kids growing up, because you really just don't know
what's in your food and you don't know how much
is okay, and you know, at least to have that
(23:21):
baseline knowledge of you know, potatoes aren't bad. Yeah, but
how do you make that potato is what technically if
you want to get to makes it bad if and
bad being I'm not eting fried food, so it's bad
for me. If you fried foods, it's not bad for you,
but for me it's bad. Right now?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Do you notice, like if you're aside from the airplane,
like just in public, if you're thin, or if you're bigger,
do you feel like people treat you different like or
if you're at a gay bar or if you're like,
what's the vibe either way?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Or is it just your personality.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Isn't as confident when you don't feel good, so maybe
people treat you differently.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Oh well, I had a lot of my depression and
discomfort with myself behind a smile and humor and jokes.
I think that's what attracted people to my TikTok. And
I'm very naturally funny and I really try to keep
it light for everyone because I know what it's you know,
I know what the world's like. But there were very
few times that I noticed people would treat me differently
(24:20):
because of my weight, and maybe that was just me
being willfully ignorant to it. But like I would have
people get my door for me people say hi. But
I've also lived in some pretty pretty polite in southern
places most of my life, so I've I've been very
lucky not to have that piss poor treatment because I'm fat. Now,
(24:40):
there may have been a couple of times in my
life and I probably just blocked those out or I
just maybe thought they were looking at me because I
thought I was cute or something. We framed my perspective
even though it's probably not true. Just the more I
grow up, the more I don't care what people are thinking,
so I think I just don't even see it anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, I mean, you do have like a magnetism to you.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You do, like.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
The there's just like an energy and positivity and you're
you are very funny. So thank you, thank you. I
love that. Now. Can you talk a little bit about though,
Like you said, you felt like you grew up in
the closet, Like what was it, what was like your
epiphany moment? Like what was all that like? Especially growing
up in Kentucky I'm from I grew up in Georgia
(25:26):
but didn't realize I was gay until later, So very
scared to you don't even think that way.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So yeah, it's scary, And it's not like I. I
knew that I like women and I like girls and
that I was gay. But as long as I can remember,
I don't remember ever liking a boy or coming to
my mom and thinking he's cute. You know, I just
don't ever remember doing it. But something inside of me,
whether it was from TV or the radio, told me
(25:54):
that being gay was not okay and I better not
talk about it because it's not safe to do right here,
right now. My mom and my dad never instilled that
in me. My mom was very very vocal about how
she liked and loved gay people. Her favorite band ever
is Queen, which is why that's my favorite band too.
She talked about her love of Freddie Mercury, Elton John,
(26:16):
David Bowie, and you know, just a lot of these
iconic people who were really pro gay right were just
gay themselves. So I never had a fear of that
from her. But there was something societal that made me
feel scared. But there was I was, and I was
in the closet throughout middle school, high school. I came
out probably when I was like maybe twenty four, and
(26:39):
I was just really tired of being alone, like my
friends were getting boyfriends or girlfriends, and I would go
to things and they were all coupled and I was
by myself. We'd go to the Fourth of July and
they're with their boo looking at the fireworks, and here
I am watching it the.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Way I've all been there, I know.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
So I made the decision. I was like, you know what,
I'm gonna try to start dating. I'm gonna fucking tell nobody.
So I got online. First time I ever tried online dating,
it was on a computer on the website. I can't
remember the website, but I found my first girlfriend on there,
and I remember thinking, okay, so this is going somewhere.
I had better start telling people. I had better start
(27:21):
telling people. So then I told my mom and my friends,
and I lost a couple of friends and but my
I remember telling my mom. I was like, okay, so
I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, and I want you to be mad at me.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
And she was like, well, what is it? And I
told her. I was like, I like girls, and then
I just started crying. Oh, and She's like, what are
you crying for? And I'm like, well, I just don't
want you to hate me.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, gosh, and oh so sweet and.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Fucking grips me up every time because she said you're
my baby and I'll always love you. And I was
just like, oh my fuck. It rips me apart every
time because I didn't. I mean, I knew that she
was she would love me either way.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, but doing.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It and having that validation and assurance that my mom
still loved me was just.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's like a monkey off your back. It's like a
way just just yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, man. It's it's so relatable though, Like that was
like I had prepared myself for my parents to like
disown me, and I was in my mid to late
thirties and like I didn't I didn't need my parents,
but I did need my parents, you know, like it
doesn't matter how old you are, you need them to
love you. And it's such a scary thing to face
(28:42):
and be like, damn, like just to be me, I
could lose my parents' love. So I totally relate to that.
That's that fear and that that pain, but also the relief,
Like Jesus, the relief is huge.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But I also it's so interesting to me at least
that here, I mean to see the pain. It still
brings up for you and to know though that your parent,
your mom was a sweetheart, she loved gay people, She
wasn't a homophobe. She never taught you that when you
were little, and it was still so heavy for you,
like that to me, should let everyone know. I mean,
(29:19):
how compelling is that. I mean, so many people don't
have moms like yours and it's still so heavy for you.
So it's just like, I think that's so hot.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean, it's why it's so hard.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
It's why people end up coming out in their forties,
fifties beyond, because it's too fucking scary.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Right I think that.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, It's like I can't imagine having gone to my
parents at that age at your way said that, Like,
I would have been terrified for the same exact reasons. Yeah,
so it's a tough man.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I was definitely. I'm still very, very lucky, but yeah,
because you hear if people coming out to their their
parents or their mom or their dad or their friends
and they disowned them, right, and I and at my
heart of hearts, I knew it wasn't gonna happen. And
I think sometimes I feel guilty for being a lucky
(30:12):
one that didn't get kicked out and that didn't get disowned.
Like sometimes I have guilt telling that story because it
was such a happy one and I shouldn't and I
know that they would be happy too, but I'm just like,
I wish everybody had that experience. And when I called
my dad because he was in Florida at the time,
and I called him on the phone, I told him,
so I got a girlfriend, and he goes, oh, you too, huh.
(30:33):
I'm like, you need me, you too. He was like,
your sister's gay. I'm like she is. He's like, yeah,
she's gay. I'm like, shut up, and she is like
I was the last one, ironically to find out that
she was gay. She told me. She was like if
I had known that you were, and then I would
have just like, you guys each other.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Holy shit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Well we also we grew up very, very far apart.
She was in school in Chicago and she lived in
California for some time, so we weren't as close as
me and my twin brother because my uh because we
lived together, but she lives across the country and in
other states. So he was like, yeah, you two, that's funny.
And then I had friends that I came out to
and they thought that I was asking them out and
(31:20):
hitting on them. When I told I didn't say I'd
be like, I have something to tell you, and one
friend went, don't do it. I was like, don't do what?
Like everybody knew it was just me having that denial
up here that they didn't know.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, so, well are you dating now?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I have a girlfriend and she ironically lives back in
Kentucky pretty close to where I'm from.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Okay, yeah, long distance.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Long distance.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Okay, yeah, it's horror, but you know it's he's worth it.
But uh, yeah, she lives back in Kentucky. I'm still
here in North Carolina. We met on tender like three
years ago, so that's the long distance is there. But
hopefully man, But that's.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Really just so that's awesome, like that three years in
long distance and you guys are still solid.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yeah, Yeah, we do a lot of traveling. Yeah, a
lot of traveling.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's I mean. I feel like though, like within the
lesbian queer community, it's like, you know, long distance is
one of those things. It's like sometimes that's just what
you gotta do, you know, like you found someone really
great and you're gonna make it work, so good for
you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, especially when the little small towns I grew up in,
there just won't a lot of lesbians and all were
there gay bars and stuff, so you had to get
creative and either do apps or search online or something.
So's I think it's might be pretty common for.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
This is like a totally random question.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
But I'm curious because you say people like you they
knew you were gay before you came out, and Melissa
and I talk about sometimes like when we were little,
like when we would change for gym.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Class or like we were pretty private about our bodies.
And I'm still that way now, Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Just like get naked at the gym and then put
my clothes on, Like I'm I still like cover up
with a towel, Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's weird. Like I don't know if it's my upbringing.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I'm the same way.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, you are the same way, and we kind of
thought maybe it's like a you know you're gay and
you're like in this dressing room.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I don't know. I'm curious when you were little, what
were you.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Like, Uh, well, we had gym class, where we didn't
have like we did have like gym and locker rooms
where you could change and stuff. But I just stayed
in my clothes all day. And I don't think it
was anything about being gay or.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Not wanting to be naked in front of people or
I just don't want to be naked in front of anybody.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Even now.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, no, not even now, Like I'm
I'm clothed most of the time and something. I just
like being covered up. But it's hard for me to now,
even like with my girlfriend, it's rare that she'll see
me just completely nude. I'll have either like a shirt
or my brief song, my breeches or something. Yeah, but yeah,
(34:08):
I don't think it's just ever since I was a kid,
I just kind of felt that way.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, I always, Yeah, I always felt really modest. And yeah,
I saw this like meme once that was like, if
you were one of the kids, the girls in gym
class who was changing in the bathroom stall, you're gay.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Now this is probably what started this, Melissa, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
damn that was me, and that was me.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I trained myself to not look at women like I
focus on eye contact, like.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
You don't want to look at their child. I looking
at your guys. I have an example of.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
This when we were in Seattle doing our live event.
This woman came up to us and was talking, and
I had talked to her for probably ten minutes, and
then someone came up and they were like, Oh, I
really like your dress. In the dress of like hands
like on the boot. Oh god, I haven't even noticed.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I'm not even because you wouldn't even let your eyes
drop down.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And I was like, yeah, I'm really well trained.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I'm not going to objectify her. I'm not going to
objectify her.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That's hilarious fun.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yeah, I think it's just a natural, see because I
also am very mindful about not like objectifying people. But
I think naturally I just kind of look away anyway.
Maybe it's just ingrained from childhood. But I still do
change in the stars. If I'm going to the gym, yeah, yeah,
I don't want any want to see me. I must
scarre to seeing them.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I the same way.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I there's a spa here in Atlanta that I go
to sometimes because people I'm with might want to go,
and it's you have to be completely naked and you
they have these pools and you're.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Like, literally, you don't even have a towel. You are naked,
bush out with all these women.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I've gone probably I've gone probably ten times, and it
is like I'm even I'm so self conscious for the
first like thirty minutes and then I'm like, uh, like whatever,
but I do.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I know.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
It's like weird and like your ass is like out
and yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, it's funny. Because it's funny too because I've been
to a nude beach and I wasn't as uncomfortable as
I thought I would be. I was closed, but it
was weird seeing all those bits walking around. So I
was just like I to the ocean, or I to
this guy, this guy or whatever it was. I was drinking.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Well, what's next for you, Alicia. I know that you've
started working with some other creators and stuff and like
a trainer or something.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
So mm hmm, yeah, I have my trainer still. Simon
he's uh, he's he's based out in Canada. Actually he's
gonna be coming here next next month and we're gonna
work on a couple of things together. But really I'm
just working on a weight loss, trying to find new recipes,
posting us some video and seeing where the world's gonna
(37:01):
take me next month and the month after that. But yeah,
this is gonna be it's gonna be fun adventure and
I feel like I'm just really getting started.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah, you've been a pleasure, Alicia, Thank you so much
for coming on.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I appreciate you, guys. Thank you for being so sweet,
nice and wonderful.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
When you're in Atlanta, come find us.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I was gonna say, let us know next time you're Yeah,
for sure, for sure introduce you to some people.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
So, yeah, for sure show me the gighborhood.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
We'll show you the gaborhood. We can definitely do that.
We spend a lot of time in the gighborhood.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Hi, you guys are sweet. Thank you so much. Yli,
you know when to come down.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Sounds good? All right, all right, thank my guys. I
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Welcome to the Lesbian Chronicles. Hello, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Did you find a new place? It looks like you're
back in the closet.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
I'm back in the class, still not doing no, but
that is funny that now I'm recording in a closet again.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
What the hell?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah? I think I've mentioned this on the other episodes,
but my new house one of the like at the
master closet, the second closet has it was set up
to be an office, so I've I've been working from here.
But yeah, like, I've got like clothes in here and.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
It's good make the sound better, yeah, I guess so, But.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
The Wi Fi is not great? Like it it I
was trying to do therapy the other day and it
ruined the last ten minutes of my therapy session. Oh shit,
I need to get like one of those boosters or
something like that.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
But the suburb it's the boosters are always Whenever I
go places that are like really remote, like when I'm traveling,
I always they have the booster. So I'm like picturing you.
I mean, you're like in the suburbs, like it shouldn't
be that.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But it's it's wild here, Like it's I don't know
if you realize this, but Peachtree City is very like planned. Yeah,
and they don't allow like no one wants to sell
phone tower in their backyard and there's like very few
and so self service sucks. My internet so far has
not been great. And yeah, I'm like, I feel like
(02:11):
I'm living in the dark ages here. Like I lost
my internet last night at uh three forty five in
the morning with fifteen minutes to go on my shift
and I'm like cool, like and my hotspot's barely working.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, that's the whole thing that would cost me six stress.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah. Anyway, how was your Halloween? You guys had a
block party.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
We had Actually Halloween was chill, like we had friends
for dinner and just passed out candy and did the thing.
But the next day our neighborhood. We did our first annual,
Like we just threw a block party like right on
my block, and we thought, like this neighborhood, you know,
you know, it's like it's very gay, but it's also
has old people, young people, black people, white people, Spanish people,
(02:51):
like it's extremely diverse. And so myself and like a
couple other people just like put flyers in mailboxes having
no idea.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
What was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
We had I bet we had over one hundred people
on my right outside my house.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It looked like porch fest, dude, That's why I know.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
So I thought people are like craving and it was
like fun because it would be like this seventy year
old woman and then this like tatted up like young person,
Like I don't know. It just felt so fun to
me that it was like this is the block. It
was like Sesame Street.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
It's just like so cool.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, it ended up being super fun. We had a
keg and just great conversations with all kinds of people
that you see around but you have no idea who
they are.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, I mean it is kind of like Halloween is
like this time when you go out and like kind
of meet with your neighbors. We went to a neighborhood
that I used to live in, and you know, my
ex husband he knows a lot of people around this area.
I really don't know anybody, but it was fun to like,
you know, he's seeing people that he knows the whole
time and we're talking to people and like that. That
neighborhood that we go to so well set up, Like
(03:58):
the houses are really close together. They're just like, kno,
going to hang it out. But what was funny is
like the difference between now, like they're eleven and thirteen
years old. Like now they're like, you know, sauntering to
each house.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
They don't really care.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Like they were all like running everywhere. Yeah, like terrified
they're gonna hit by a car. And like now it's like, dude,
can you guys like pick up the pace a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, it's like, come on, guys, come on. I know
it's kind of depressing though, right it is.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I'm like getting bigger thirteen. I don't know how long
she's going to allow us to like tag along with
her trick or treating.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yeah, damn, dude, I get that. I feel that because
our youngest didn't even or treat with us at all anymore.
Like he went to friends houses and I was like, yeah,
punch to the gut.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I know, it's like being slowly broken up with.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It's being slowly broken up with. I had to eat
lunch with your child today and they I went, and
he's fourteen, and like I'm sitting there with him with
you know, We're having all this food.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm like making small talk and then he like.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Ditches me, and so I'm like sitting there by myself
looking around. I'm like, God, this is like I'm a
complete loser, Like I don't have no one's no one's.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Talking to me. I'm like I literally went up to him.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I'm like, dude, don't leave me.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Kid. Yeah, the cool kids. So anyway, I got a
little taste of middle school.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Yes, I'm sur they still do that in middle school.
I don't think like Caleinn would be mortified if I
showed up to the seventh grade lunch room to eat
with her.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
I know, I was kind of surprised how many parents didn't.
Like a lot of his friends were there and they're like, yeah,
my mom didn't come, and I'm like, oh god, maybe
it wasn't like I wasn't supposed to exactly, but anyway,
I was there.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I was there in full of fact.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think mine yesterday, my are Thanksgiving meal for my
son was the last one. Yeah, that you're gonna be
able to do. And he's such a sweetheart. He wants
to like still like blow me a kiss as I'm leaving.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh my god, I was like pushing me out. Oh
it's like crushed soul.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I know, I know I'm about to have my soul
crushed as well. Like by next year sixth grade, he's
gonna be like who are you?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Yeah, yeah, no, And he's like the social kid. My
other middle one who before him, wasn't. So it was
like we both clung to each other. So yeah, but anyway,
he did different.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
He doesn't need me.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
But you got us a really cool guest. I've been like,
I'm not even on TikTok and I've watched a bunch
of them. So anyway, I'll let you introduce Melissa.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Yeah. So gosh, it's probably about a month or maybe
two months ago that Alicia started popping up on my TikTok.
And I just love your positive attitude. You're you're posting
about your weight loss, journey and also like, you live
in the in the area that I used to live in,
so you're posting cities that I'm familiar with. But welcome, Alicia,
(06:57):
thank you for joining us on the show. You're You're
doing an amazing job with your tiktoks.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
So yeah, I should say.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I played them for my girlfriend last night. I was like,
we were just we ended up just like getting lost
in them. I'm like, oh, here's another one, here's another one.
Like You're very funny, and I got sucked in.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I have to say, oh.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Thank you so much. It's been a it's a little
wild ride.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, the past few.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Months, it's been pretty crazy. I appreciate that thing.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Did your following just grow like what, like, have you
always had this many or did it just like explode recently?
Speaker 4 (07:28):
It just exploded. So I've I've been doing social media
for some time, but those accounts have since been private
and they didn't get anywhere near to what I'm at now,
Like I maybe add one thousand followers on my private TikTok,
and then I decided to start posting about my weight loss,
and it just slowly just started to kind of swell
and then explode. What do you think that's about what
(07:52):
I think is about.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
What do Why do you think?
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Was it like one particular viral situation or was it
like people, this is fucking resonating.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
It was definitely one particular one video in particular is
what I Eat in a Day video, okay, And while
I was doing the voiceover, I was like thinking, well,
I don't know if I want to say that, because
that's not palatable, and I'm like, you know, I fucking care,
I'm just gonna say it anyway. Excuse me, I.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Go for it.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
I was like, I don't, I don't care. I'm gonna
say whatever I want. I'm gonna say what I'm thinking,
and I guess we'll see what happens there. And then
that TikTok just kind of blew up. I think it's
over two million views now, maybe even more. And then
that started to kind of get people to do reactions
video reactions to my videos, mostly fitness influencers and or
(08:43):
fit influencers or nutritionalness and whatnot, and then it just
kind of grew from there.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Were they nice or were they being decks?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
They were nice? And that's I was terrified of that
because the first time I saw video. My heart sank.
I'm like, here we.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Here, we go, here we go.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
There's the first person to attack my my nutritional choices.
But he was great, and and everybody there after that.
Actually it was a woman. It was a one. I
can't remember her name. I follow her right now, but
it's escaped to me because I'm just everywhere. But it
was and she was super nice, and everybody has been
very nice after. If anyone's giving me a battery, I've
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just not seen it, Like I'm I've been waiting for it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
I've been there. Well, what's funny is I feel like
you've got like an army of followers who would like
immediately have your back for it.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And they do it, and we do. Yeah, I don't
even I don't even need to say anything to anybody
in the comments anymore, which I typically don't because I
just that's just too mentally taxing. But sometimes someone will
say that one thing. I'm just like, let me shuk.
This guy is real quick, but they just like go
in like gaggles. Yet not. I don't want to say
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attack them, but they're like you in the wrong place?
Are you new here?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:01):
New here? Well that's the.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Thing like with TikTok. I feel like, you know, like
Facebook is for the bullies, TikTok is for the positivity. Yeah,
so when someone shows up and they're in the comments
like being mean, people are like, get out of here.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, this isn't where you belong, right.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, And it's not. It's not even just on TikTok.
Because that's that's why I started posting. Was first on
TikTok because is what you said, like, you generally see
the more positive comments in the positive like reinforcement from
people in the comment section on TikTok. And then I
went to Instagram and they're there also, And I've just
recently started posting to Facebook and it's just positivity there too,
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And I don't know why. I guess I'm just hashtag blessed,
not a not a clue, but everybody's just so freaking
nice and supportive. You'll have that one dick, but they
end up deleting their comment or blocking me or the
people commenting back to them. But I've just been so
lucky to have to have the support and the rallying
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behind the atrocious humans that just want to pick shit apart,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
When I watched a little bit, it was like you,
so you lost a bunch of weight and then gained
weight back and then lost Like tell me about like
what happens to create a situation where maybe you're you know,
back down and yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
So the the first time I lost, it was almost
one hundred pounds, and then COVID hit I was really
heavy into the gym like that was my biggest routine
and a knocked my routine with anything, it's just gonna
mess me up. And I think that did it to
a lot of people who were on their weight loss
road trips or journeys, we'll call it. So COVID knocked
me down. And then it just kind of started to
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be out of sight, out of mind. Then I went
through another breakup and I just didn't care anymore. Stuff
just hit away in the bedroom, in the bed, yeah, snacks,
door dash, binge, watching, binge, eating, and it just slowly
started creeping up. I just kept saying, those those decades
on the scale go up, you know, did.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
You do that?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Like were you someone who was like you're weighing yourself
or you're like you know, like I know, if I
have a bad week of eating, like I feel different.
So was it like you were like, ah, fuck, here
I go, like, I'm you knew it?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Oh yeah, I definitely knew it. And there were some
little spurts in there where I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna
get back on my bullshit. Yeah, I get back on
my bullshit. And then I would get back on my
bullshit for like a couple of weeks, and then something
would happen. It would piss me off or make me
sad or make me happy, and I would celebrate with
alcohol and food. So those are my celebratory things. Those
are my coping things. And it just got to be
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like this never ending cycle of bad decisions hindering the
goal that I was trying to set for myself. And
then it just slowly bloomed up to a space where
I was just like, fucking yeah, just gonna die in
his bed and I don't care.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
And then what would eventually then be like Nope, this isn't.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
So funny. I was traveling to Atlanta for work, okay,
and y'all's airport can suck it, dude.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I was there yesterday.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It literally I literally looked at the person with me
and I said, my parents couldn't do this. Yeah, they
are well traveled, they get around great. I'm like, this
would be too stressful, too much action. You got the
too luggage on the the luggage on the escalator.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
It's too fucking much.
Speaker 4 (13:30):
It's too it's too much, and especially for someone who
was at that time fucking for four hundred pounds lugging
around my luggage, trying to find my gate, going through security,
standing for so long, it was just too painful. And
then I was like, I'm gonna do something really iggy
right now. I have my phone, was pretending my phone,
and I got to my seat first and I turned
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my my my camera on and I took like a
little video of me sitting in the seat and my
belly was almost touching the seat in front of me,
and I was like, this is it? Like what the fuck?
That I would start to feel the frustration from people
sitting beside me because my fat legs were like pour
it over into their seat a little bit, like I
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gotta be the one to sit next to the fat bitch,
you know. I could feel that I get it, right,
I get it. I don't want to be close to
other people either. But I'm like I'm by this window.
I'm huge as much as I can't. But that was it.
That was the moment where I was like, I gotta
do something.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
I have to.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
I can't do this anymore for that travel a lot, yeah,
for work, especially by plane, and like I can't right it?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Do people do like do you think that's really happening
or do you think that's your perception of what's happening,
Like if you, like, if I sat down next to
somebody overweight, I'm like going above and beyond to be
like super sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Do you think it's perceived or do you think it's real?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
I think it's I think it's more perceived than it
is real, because I've had people like you like you
you say you try to just be overly not over yea,
I've had that, and I'm just like, thank god. But
it's if you if you ever sit next to a
fat person on an airplane, they're probably thinking this person
beside me is just hate me right now, and that's
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that's just terrible. Yeah, it is, you know, and that's
from social media. You find tiktoks and stuff of people
bitching about fat people on planes and having to sit
next to them and stuff. You don't see that more
than anything else, but it's out there, and as soon
as you see it, they're like, okay, is this what
everybody thinks?
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Now?
Speaker 4 (15:35):
So that's the fear. That's the fear of it. So
when I have someone nice that's like chatty with me,
I'm like dope. And when i have someone who's not
chatty with me, I'm.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Like, fuck, I hate me.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
This is gonna be a shitty two hour yea so much.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
I had a friend who was heavy that said that
she's like, I hate ordering because I feel like people
are like judging my order. Do you ever have that
feeling of like or did you when you were overweight,
have the feeling of like they're watching the order?
Speaker 4 (16:02):
No? No, But I've also heard of people saying that
and saying that they're scared to eat in public. They're
scared of people watching the meat.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I didn't care about that. Yeah, but I have a
I have a friend. She and I used to do
this and she was not as over as overweight as
I am right now. But we actually think.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You look great right now.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Like I I literally thought that right when I got
on the zoo.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, you look like an average woman to me.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
Oh, thank you so much. Well, we had this hack
that if we'd go through drive through and order food,
like we'd want to order a lot of food, right,
so we would order two drinks to make it seem.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Like two people.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
That's amazing, eighteen spoons, eighteen.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
You can't see them, but they're here. You're a big group.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yeah, I gotta take out. We have a party. My
friend even told me she was like, I was on
the phone in the draft roo pretending to talk to
somebody doing my order around like, oh you bitched.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
Oh my god, speaks to like the mental load that
you're carrying. All. Yeah, it's not just like they, but
like mentally you're having to work harder. Have you noticed,
like with losing some weight and everything, that that's like
lessened a little bit.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yeah, Like now I'm not like I hate going to
Walmart anyway because it stinks in there, the music sucks,
it's always hot. But now I'm not as annoyed with
going in there because before I was also annoyed with
having to walk around, like doing little things like that
that wouldn't be a second thought to someone who wasn't
as overweight. As I am doing things like that is nice.
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I don't dread it anymore. But there's a lot of
that mental load that's taken off with just the weight
that I've lost already, and I still have so much
more to go.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Tell us a little bit about what life was like
growing up, Like where did you grow up? And you
know what was your didn't even mention you had a
twin brother, right, So yeah, that's sounds interesting.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yes, I grew up in a really small town called Grayson, Kentucky.
And when I'm talking to somebout I'm talking about like
four digits four digits long, like maybe three thousand people
in this town. You could count the stop lights on
your hands and feet, maybe not even your feet. But
it was a nice little country place in Kentucky. I'm
not a huge outdoorsy country person, so I found my
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little friend group of like the same legs and dislikes,
but played out. It was in the I think it
was one of the last generations where we played outside
a lot as a kid and not on her phones.
So growing up is good. I grew and lived with
my mom. She's who's a nurse, very hard working, supported
us by herself. Number one all the time. My dad
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remarried and we got to visit him sometimes. Still had
a good relationship with him, So had a little friend group.
Grew up in the closet, but I guess very visibly
I was not hiding my gayness, so I.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Heard, I mean none of us were.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah to realize, I don't know. So yeah, grew up
in Grayson, Kentucky. I went to school at Marshall University
in Huntington, West Virginia for a couple of years from music,
music education, and I dropped out. I didn't want to
do that anymore, and I started working in sales.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I could see you being good at that.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
It's fun. A lot of money be made there.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Yeah for sure, because not very many people are good
at it, and it's.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Not for everybody, but there's a there's definitely a lot
of a lot of money making potential there. And now
I train and I train these people. So whenever you
hear me talking about my students or a classroom, I
train for sales at the company that I work for.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Where are you now in your weight? Like, are you
where you want to be? Or you're still losing weight?
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
No, I'm not where I want to be. I'm still
losing way. Yeah, I still Uh, I've got lunch and
dinner to prep after this, after after I get done
with your own because he's some friends. But yeah, I'm
nowhere near where I want to be.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
You travel a lot, and I think that's like probably
one of your biggest challenges, you know, like being on
the road and finding food and being like healthy. What's
like the thing there that like the secret? I guess
like that you've kind of found the workaround right now.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Well, when I travel out of town, I do it
for about two weeks at a time, So instead of
pissing my money away fast food, I just get groceries
and I get a hotel with the little kitchen with
a fridge. So it's like just like I'm at home.
Sometimes I'll take something with me. I take my scale
with me every fucking where I go. My food scale
(20:48):
goes with me. So yeah, I have to because you
think you can eyeball it, but you're wrong most of
the times. Yeah, So just making better decisions like that.
Sometimes I'll just even go on Google if I haven't
made anything, just typing lowest calorie fast food that I
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can get really quick. That's you know the best option,
and there's some out there, but you just got a plan.
Bring some tools with you, like my little scale and
water jug and you know whatever plan accordingly in my
little kitchenette. Make some recipes. You know something that I
know that I can make in a room where I
don't have everything.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
What would be like a go to for you?
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Lately it's been my yogurt bowl that I've been making
for breakfasts because I can do that with plain, non
fat greek yogurt and a couple of sugar free Joe
pudding packs or a protein powder that's for breakfast. Or
I can do a turkey sandwich with thirty five calorie
slice Keto bread, or I make my own tacos with
lean pork, and like these little cornt where tea is
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that are one hundred calories for three of them. So
really it's just about knowing food, knowing what kind of
nutrition is behind that food, Like you got Every every
time I go to the store and buy something, I
look at the like that I'm looking at the nutritional facts.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
If I don't read it, and if it doesn't have
it on there, I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Yeah, I do feel like there's a lot to like
educate yourself on that, Like we just don't learn growing up,
Like it was something that I didn't start paying attention
to until like my late twenties and being like wait
a second, like food is fuel, and like what I
eat eat matters and how I feel, And it's just
like I wish it was more spoken about with kids
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to kind of learn that aspect of eating.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Yeah, I agree to, and especially growing up in Kentucky,
my mom is a Southern cook boy, so you know,
we we ate for pleasure, not fuel, you know what
I mean. I wasn't always fat as a kid, but
I didn't just like you, and I didn't start paying
attention to nutritional facts for information or trying to learn
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about food until I was probably in my mid twenties,
the first time that I really tried to get on
my bullshit, you know. So I think it should definitely
have a little bit more of a highlight and education
for kids growing up, because you really just don't know
what's in your food and you don't know how much
is okay, and you know, at least to have that
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baseline knowledge of you know, potatoes aren't bad. Yeah, but
how do you make that potato is what technically if
you want to get to makes it bad if and
bad being I'm not eting fried food, so it's bad
for me. If you fried foods, it's not bad for you,
but for me it's bad. Right now?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Do you notice, like if you're aside from the airplane,
like just in public, if you're thin, or if you're bigger,
do you feel like people treat you different like or
if you're at a gay bar or if you're like,
what's the vibe either way?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Or is it just your personality.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
Isn't as confident when you don't feel good, so maybe
people treat you differently.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Oh well, I had a lot of my depression and
discomfort with myself behind a smile and humor and jokes.
I think that's what attracted people to my TikTok. And
I'm very naturally funny and I really try to keep
it light for everyone because I know what it's you know,
I know what the world's like. But there were very
few times that I noticed people would treat me differently
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because of my weight, and maybe that was just me
being willfully ignorant to it. But like I would have
people get my door for me people say hi. But
I've also lived in some pretty pretty polite in southern
places most of my life, so I've I've been very
lucky not to have that piss poor treatment because I'm fat. Now,
(24:40):
there may have been a couple of times in my
life and I probably just blocked those out or I
just maybe thought they were looking at me because I
thought I was cute or something. We framed my perspective
even though it's probably not true. Just the more I
grow up, the more I don't care what people are thinking,
so I think I just don't even see it anymore.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Yeah, I mean, you do have like a magnetism to you.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
You do, like.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
The there's just like an energy and positivity and you're
you are very funny. So thank you, thank you. I
love that. Now. Can you talk a little bit about though,
Like you said, you felt like you grew up in
the closet, Like what was it, what was like your
epiphany moment? Like what was all that like? Especially growing
up in Kentucky I'm from I grew up in Georgia
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but didn't realize I was gay until later, So very
scared to you don't even think that way.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
So yeah, it's scary, And it's not like I. I
knew that I like women and I like girls and
that I was gay. But as long as I can remember,
I don't remember ever liking a boy or coming to
my mom and thinking he's cute. You know, I just
don't ever remember doing it. But something inside of me,
whether it was from TV or the radio, told me
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that being gay was not okay and I better not
talk about it because it's not safe to do right here,
right now. My mom and my dad never instilled that
in me. My mom was very very vocal about how
she liked and loved gay people. Her favorite band ever
is Queen, which is why that's my favorite band too.
She talked about her love of Freddie Mercury, Elton John,
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David Bowie, and you know, just a lot of these
iconic people who were really pro gay right were just
gay themselves. So I never had a fear of that
from her. But there was something societal that made me
feel scared. But there was I was, and I was
in the closet throughout middle school, high school. I came
out probably when I was like maybe twenty four, and
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I was just really tired of being alone, like my
friends were getting boyfriends or girlfriends, and I would go
to things and they were all coupled and I was
by myself. We'd go to the Fourth of July and
they're with their boo looking at the fireworks, and here
I am watching it the.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Way I've all been there, I know.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
So I made the decision. I was like, you know what,
I'm gonna try to start dating. I'm gonna fucking tell nobody.
So I got online. First time I ever tried online dating,
it was on a computer on the website. I can't
remember the website, but I found my first girlfriend on there,
and I remember thinking, okay, so this is going somewhere.
I had better start telling people. I had better start
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telling people. So then I told my mom and my friends,
and I lost a couple of friends and but my
I remember telling my mom. I was like, okay, so
I'm gonna tell you something.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Yeah, and I want you to be mad at me.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
And she was like, well, what is it? And I
told her. I was like, I like girls, and then
I just started crying. Oh, and She's like, what are
you crying for? And I'm like, well, I just don't
want you to hate me.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, gosh, and oh so sweet and.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Fucking grips me up every time because she said you're
my baby and I'll always love you. And I was
just like, oh my fuck. It rips me apart every
time because I didn't. I mean, I knew that she
was she would love me either way.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, but doing.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It and having that validation and assurance that my mom
still loved me was just.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
It's like a monkey off your back. It's like a
way just just yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, man. It's it's so relatable though, Like that was
like I had prepared myself for my parents to like
disown me, and I was in my mid to late
thirties and like I didn't I didn't need my parents,
but I did need my parents, you know, like it
doesn't matter how old you are, you need them to
love you. And it's such a scary thing to face
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and be like, damn, like just to be me, I
could lose my parents' love. So I totally relate to that.
That's that fear and that that pain, but also the relief,
Like Jesus, the relief is huge.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
But I also it's so interesting to me at least
that here, I mean to see the pain. It still
brings up for you and to know though that your parent,
your mom was a sweetheart, she loved gay people, She
wasn't a homophobe. She never taught you that when you
were little, and it was still so heavy for you,
like that to me, should let everyone know. I mean,
(29:19):
how compelling is that. I mean, so many people don't
have moms like yours and it's still so heavy for you.
So it's just like, I think that's so hot.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean, it's why it's so hard.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
It's why people end up coming out in their forties,
fifties beyond, because it's too fucking scary.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Right I think that.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, It's like I can't imagine having gone to my
parents at that age at your way said that, Like,
I would have been terrified for the same exact reasons. Yeah,
so it's a tough man.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
I was definitely. I'm still very, very lucky, but yeah,
because you hear if people coming out to their their
parents or their mom or their dad or their friends
and they disowned them, right, and I and at my
heart of hearts, I knew it wasn't gonna happen. And
I think sometimes I feel guilty for being a lucky
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one that didn't get kicked out and that didn't get disowned.
Like sometimes I have guilt telling that story because it
was such a happy one and I shouldn't and I
know that they would be happy too, but I'm just like,
I wish everybody had that experience. And when I called
my dad because he was in Florida at the time,
and I called him on the phone, I told him,
so I got a girlfriend, and he goes, oh, you too, huh.
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I'm like, you need me, you too. He was like,
your sister's gay. I'm like she is. He's like, yeah,
she's gay. I'm like, shut up, and she is like
I was the last one, ironically to find out that
she was gay. She told me. She was like if
I had known that you were, and then I would
have just like, you guys each other.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Holy shit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Well we also we grew up very, very far apart.
She was in school in Chicago and she lived in
California for some time, so we weren't as close as
me and my twin brother because my uh because we
lived together, but she lives across the country and in
other states. So he was like, yeah, you two, that's funny.
And then I had friends that I came out to
and they thought that I was asking them out and
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hitting on them. When I told I didn't say I'd
be like, I have something to tell you, and one
friend went, don't do it. I was like, don't do what?
Like everybody knew it was just me having that denial
up here that they didn't know.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, so, well are you dating now?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (31:42):
I have a girlfriend and she ironically lives back in
Kentucky pretty close to where I'm from.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Okay, yeah, long distance.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Long distance.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Okay, yeah, it's horror, but you know it's he's worth it.
But uh, yeah, she lives back in Kentucky. I'm still
here in North Carolina. We met on tender like three
years ago, so that's the long distance is there. But
hopefully man, But that's.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Really just so that's awesome, like that three years in
long distance and you guys are still solid.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Yeah, Yeah, we do a lot of traveling. Yeah, a
lot of traveling.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
That's I mean. I feel like though, like within the
lesbian queer community, it's like, you know, long distance is
one of those things. It's like sometimes that's just what
you gotta do, you know, like you found someone really
great and you're gonna make it work, so good for
you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Yeah, absolutely, I agree.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, especially when the little small towns I grew up in,
there just won't a lot of lesbians and all were
there gay bars and stuff, so you had to get
creative and either do apps or search online or something.
So's I think it's might be pretty common for.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
This is like a totally random question.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
But I'm curious because you say people like you they
knew you were gay before you came out, and Melissa
and I talk about sometimes like when we were little,
like when we would change for gym.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Class or like we were pretty private about our bodies.
And I'm still that way now, Like I don't.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Just like get naked at the gym and then put
my clothes on, Like I'm I still like cover up
with a towel, Like I don't.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
It's weird. Like I don't know if it's my upbringing.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
I'm the same way.
Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yeah, you are the same way, and we kind of
thought maybe it's like a you know you're gay and
you're like in this dressing room.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I don't know. I'm curious when you were little, what
were you.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Like, Uh, well, we had gym class, where we didn't
have like we did have like gym and locker rooms
where you could change and stuff. But I just stayed
in my clothes all day. And I don't think it
was anything about being gay or.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Not wanting to be naked in front of people or
I just don't want to be naked in front of anybody.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Even now.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Yeah oh yeah, yeah, no, not even now, Like I'm
I'm clothed most of the time and something. I just
like being covered up. But it's hard for me to now,
even like with my girlfriend, it's rare that she'll see
me just completely nude. I'll have either like a shirt
or my brief song, my breeches or something. Yeah, but yeah,
(34:08):
I don't think it's just ever since I was a kid,
I just kind of felt that way.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Yeah, I always, Yeah, I always felt really modest. And yeah,
I saw this like meme once that was like, if
you were one of the kids, the girls in gym
class who was changing in the bathroom stall, you're gay.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Now this is probably what started this, Melissa, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
damn that was me, and that was me.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I trained myself to not look at women like I
focus on eye contact, like.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
You don't want to look at their child. I looking
at your guys. I have an example of.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
This when we were in Seattle doing our live event.
This woman came up to us and was talking, and
I had talked to her for probably ten minutes, and
then someone came up and they were like, Oh, I
really like your dress. In the dress of like hands
like on the boot. Oh god, I haven't even noticed.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I'm not even because you wouldn't even let your eyes
drop down.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
And I was like, yeah, I'm really well trained.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
I'm not going to objectify her. I'm not going to
objectify her.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That's hilarious fun.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yeah, I think it's just a natural, see because I
also am very mindful about not like objectifying people. But
I think naturally I just kind of look away anyway.
Maybe it's just ingrained from childhood. But I still do
change in the stars. If I'm going to the gym, yeah, yeah,
I don't want any want to see me. I must
scarre to seeing them.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I the same way.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
I there's a spa here in Atlanta that I go
to sometimes because people I'm with might want to go,
and it's you have to be completely naked and you
they have these pools and you're.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Like, literally, you don't even have a towel. You are naked,
bush out with all these women.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
I've gone probably I've gone probably ten times, and it
is like I'm even I'm so self conscious for the
first like thirty minutes and then I'm like, uh, like whatever,
but I do.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I know.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
It's like weird and like your ass is like out
and yeah.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Yeah, it's funny. Because it's funny too because I've been
to a nude beach and I wasn't as uncomfortable as
I thought I would be. I was closed, but it
was weird seeing all those bits walking around. So I
was just like I to the ocean, or I to
this guy, this guy or whatever it was. I was drinking.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Well, what's next for you, Alicia. I know that you've
started working with some other creators and stuff and like
a trainer or something.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
So mm hmm, yeah, I have my trainer still. Simon
he's uh, he's he's based out in Canada. Actually he's
gonna be coming here next next month and we're gonna
work on a couple of things together. But really I'm
just working on a weight loss, trying to find new recipes,
posting us some video and seeing where the world's gonna
(37:01):
take me next month and the month after that. But yeah,
this is gonna be it's gonna be fun adventure and
I feel like I'm just really getting started.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
I love it.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah, you've been a pleasure, Alicia, Thank you so much
for coming on.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
I appreciate you, guys. Thank you for being so sweet,
nice and wonderful.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
When you're in Atlanta, come find us.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I was gonna say, let us know next time you're Yeah,
for sure, for sure introduce you to some people.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
So, yeah, for sure show me the gighborhood.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
We'll show you the gaborhood. We can definitely do that.
We spend a lot of time in the gighborhood.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Hi, you guys are sweet. Thank you so much. Yli,
you know when to come down.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Sounds good? All right, all right, thank my guys. I
want to support The Lesbian Chronicles podcast.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Rate us and write a review on Apple podcast or Spotify.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
We love listener feedback.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
If you'd like to share your story, email us at
Melissa and Ali at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
That's Melissa M. E. L I s A and Ali A. L.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
L I at gmail dot com. Or follow us on
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