Less Insurance Dependence Podcast

In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, Gary Takacs sits down with Josh Gosnell, co-founder of Adit, to explore how technology and data integration are transforming dental practice management. From VOIP phone systems and real-time online scheduling to CareCredit integration and actionable analytics, Josh explains how Adit empowers dental teams to enhance patient communication, improv...

In this powerful episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Robert Kerstein, a global pioneer in digital occlusion and Disclusion Time Reduction (DTR) therapy. He explains how TS Scan technology is revolutionizing diagnostics, improving patient outcomes, and eliminating the guesswork of traditional occlusal methods. Dr. Kerstein explains how DTR therapy not onl...

In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, host Lester De Alvis is joined by Margaret McGuckin, co-founder of i3 Ignite, for a deep dive into why reducing reliance on dental insurance is more important than ever. Margaret shares powerful insights from her experience helping large and small practices transition away from PPO plans without sacrificing patient retention or pro...

Can dropping PPO plans transform your dental practice into a more profitable, patient-focused business? In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence podcast, host Lester De Alwis and guest Art Wiederman, CPA, a leading dental practice management consultant, explore the financial and practical realities of going out of network. They dive into real client experie...

Are PPO plans on their way out or will they still dominate the dental insurance landscape a decade from now? In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, Naren Arulrajah and Gary Takacs take a deep dive into the history of dental insurance, why benefits have stagnated despite rising costs, and how patient awareness is accelerating change. They explore real-world examples of d...

In this episode, Gary and Naren share a simple but powerful 7-step new patient experience that turns first-time visits into lifelong patient relationships. This proven process helps practices break free from the insurance trap and build real connections that lead to better case acceptance, more referrals, and steady growth.

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Nearly half of Americans avoid going to the dentist, either due to fear or lack of a regular provider. In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, Gary Takacs and Naren Arulrajah take a deep dive into how dental practices can effectively reach and convert this underserved audience. Discover the psychology behind why patients avoid dental care, how to market strategically usi...

Tired of getting the runaround from dental insurance companies?In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, Gary Takacs and Naren Arulrajah dive into one of the most empowering (and often misunderstood) topics in dentistry: how to stand up to insurance companies using the power of your state’s Insurance Commission. You’ll learn how to respond when you're told “we never receiv...

Are PPOs quietly undermining your dental practice’s long-term value? In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, host Michael Walker speaks with Brian Colao, Director of the Dykema DSO Industry Group and a leading expert in dental law and transition strategy. Brian explains how rising operational costs, combined with stagnant insurance reimbursements, can gradually erode you...

In this episode, Michelle Delling from Rectangle Health shares simple ways to help dental practices get paid faster and easier. She talks with host Michael Walker about how to fix payment problems, use automation, and stop wasting time on paperwork. If you're trying to get away from insurance and want better cash flow, this one's for you!

In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, co-host Michael Walker welcomes Dr. Brad Hughes, a dentist and purpose-driven entrepreneur, for an insightful conversation on building practices that thrive without relying on PPOs. Dr. Hughes opens up about the mindset shifts that helped him move from burnout to fulfillment. He highlights the importance of building a brand rooted ...

In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, Gary Takacs and Naren Arulrajah unravel one of the most frustrating and often hidden realities of PPO resignation: umbrella plans. Many dentists think they’ve successfully resigned from a few insurance plans, only to find themselves unknowingly locked into a much larger web of networks. Gary and Naren explain what umbrella plans ar...

Dr. Brett Kessler: From Recovery to a Thriving, Insurance-Free Practice

American Dental Association (ADA) President Dr. Brett Kessler shares how personal transformation led him to build a fee-for-service practice grounded in purpose, vision, and patient trust.

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Have you ever wondered how the insurance plans you accept today could make or break the sale of your dental practice someday? In this powerful episode, Michael Walker sits down with Kim McCleskey and Kyle Francis from Professional Transition Strategies to uncover how your current insurance participation, especially with PPO plans, can dramatically affect the value and marketability of you...

Thinking about going out of network? In this episode, Gary and Naren break down five real reasons why some dentists should wait. Learn how to tell if your practice is ready—or if you need more time, training, and trust-building first. A must-listen before you make the leap.

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In this episode, Gary and Naren discuss a powerful but often overlooked concept: discretionary spending and how your dental practice can benefit from it. Americans spend over $6 trillion every year on things they want, not just things they need. That includes healthcare decisions, like cosmetic dentistry, implants, and other elective treatments. Gary breaks down how understanding this min...

Have you ever wondered how many people actually take full advantage of their dental insurance? You might be surprised! In this episode, Gary and Naren dive into a shocking stat: only 2.8% of patients use their full yearly dental benefits. That means nearly everyone else is missing out on the coverage they’ve paid for. So why does this happen? Is it because people forget, or is dental insu...

Ready to market smarter in 2025? In this episode of the Less Insurance Dependence Podcast, Gary Takacs and Naren Arulrajah reveal the four essential marketing pillars your practice needs to grow without relying on PPO plans. Learn how to master organic SEO, build trust through Google reviews, improve call conversions, and optimize landing pages while attracting the right patients and boos...

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