July 21, 2025 • 35 mins
Dive into the explosive truth behind the Trump-Russia collusion hoax! Uncover shocking evidence from John Brennan’s handwritten notes and Tulsi Gabbard’s revelations, exposing how Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the Deep State allegedly orchestrated a coup to frame President Trump. From the Steele dossier to the Mar-a-Lago raid, we reveal the lies, corruption, and cover-ups that threaten American democracy. Join us for a no-holds-barred breakdown of this political conspiracy and why justice may never be served—unless we demand it! Check out my show over on Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/show/nUTYcMtl4yMuoKHljZWu Become a supporting member of Liberty Lockdown here!: https://libertylockdown.locals.com/ This is where I do monthly AMA's for supporting members only Super valuable stuff! Twitter: https://twitter.com/LibertyLockPod Pickup LL shirts over at https://www.toplobsta.com/products/ll-lakers?_pos=5&_sid=e7319ba4a&_ss=r&variant=40668064186434 NEW DESIGNS JUST DROPPED All links: https://www.libertylockdownpodcast.com/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/libertylockdown As always, if you leave a five star review on Apple Podcasts with your social media handle I'll read it on next weeks show (audio version only)! Love you long time Liberty Lockdown presents a variety of opinions, sometimes opposing and controversial. They are not representative of the host of the podcast. Guests are encouraged to express their opinions in a safe and equitable environment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's no question in my mind that this intelligence community
assessment that President Obama ordered be published, which contained a
manufactured intelligence document, It's worse than even politicization of intelligence.
It was manufactured intelligence that sought to achieve President Obama
and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump's presidency
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and subverting the will of the American people. And that's
really the point here that I think is most important, Maria,
and you set it in your opening. Accountability is essential
for the future of our country, for the American people
to have any sense of trust in the integrity of
our democratic republic. Accountability, action, prosecution, indictments for those who
(00:45):
are responsible for trying to steal our democracy is essential
for us to make sure that this never happens to
our country again.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You guys buying it, Yeah, me either. It's unfortunate that
because I've been studying this stuff for years now, as
you guys do as well, since you pay attention as
much as I do, I'm sure we all know that
this is what happened. We all know that Hillary Clinton
was behind the Steele dossier. We all know that the
CIA and the FBI and the Obama administration and Hillary
(01:17):
Clinton all collaborated to frame Trump for treason, and now
there's this big expose eight plus years later, and you
have this ground swell of lock them up, Hillary Clinton, Obama,
They're all going to prison. I'm sorry, but like, if
you can't put behind bars a human trafficking operation, a
(01:41):
la Epstein, why should I have any faith at all
that you're actually gonna do this? And I think that
at the I mean, We're gonna watch the entire interview
with Tulci because I think that it's at least interesting.
It's good to know what's happening, it's good to know
what the narrative is. But I just want to kind
of cut to the chase here. Oftentimes people talk about
the uniparty or the duopoly. The more black filed folks
(02:03):
will say there is no difference between the two parties.
That may be true. I'm not saying that it's not,
but I'm just the way I view it is that
even if you assume that there are two different sides
of the aisle, I still look at it like warring
gang leaders. It's not really a fight for real, for
real in terms of like, oh, if this gang leader wins,
(02:27):
we win, or if this gang leader wins, we win. No,
that just means that that gang wins. And I think
the real way this functions is, even if these people
are actually adversarial, which I think they could be to
a large extent, a good metaphor to think of it
this way is that when it comes to cartel wars,
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oftentimes there will not be actual movement against the head,
the cartel boss. If there's beef between the cartels, there
will be you know, lower level gang men that may
be taken out in the crossfire or in the infighting
between the different gangs or the different mobs. But at
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the end of the day, they don't really want to
take out the top guy because that opens the door
for them coming for the top guy and his family
and his close associates. So I think that's kind of
how our government works. Unfortunately, that if you actually open
the door to imprisoning a former president, which is what
a lot of MAGA country is saying right now, lock
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Obama up. Look, I'm all for it, I'm all for
locking up all the politicians basically at this point, but
I just don't think that they're going to go down
that path because then it actually opens the door for
imprisoning everybody. And the way it really functions right now is,
no matter how criminal, they all kind of know that
(03:51):
you're not gonna actually go to prison. Sure you might
get fined, Sure you'll be dragged through the mud, you'll
be dragged through the tabloids, you'll be dragged through the
court system, But will you go to prison? Like for decades,
when's the last time you saw a politician do that?
You know, it's like Rod Blgoyevitch. There's a handful of
political operatives that have seen jailed time, the vast majority
(04:12):
of them. It's like they get thrown in jail. The
next guy wins the White House, he pardons all of
his associates, and the cycle begins to know, no one
ever actually goes to prison, and they never really go
to prison for the things that they ought to go
to prison for, like war crimes. They go to prison
for like tax evasion, which is just not good enough.
(04:33):
I mean, I want to be very clear, I am
not downplaying what Obama and that entire camp did to
the Trump administration. It is egregious. I think it could
be argued that it's treason espionage of sorts. I don't
even know what the actual technical laws violated are other
than they are grievous, very very severe. So what I
(04:57):
like to see justice restored? Yeah? Of course I would
love to see politicians be put behind bars for corruption
and criminality. The vast majority of them ought to be.
But will they be? Will they actually open Pandora's box?
And a lot of people thought that Pandora's box had
been open when Donald Trump was facing eight hundred years
behind bars. But was he really And I'm not sure.
(05:19):
I mean, maybe he was. I don't know. He certainly
faced a lot of trials, but it's like as soon
as he won the election, they were just kind of
gone and all of the threats against him were just
poof vanished. You're back in power, all right, Well, we
tried to keep you out. You got it. Now what
are you gonna do with it? Trump and his administration
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have an opportunity to prove you because I assume you're
as jaded as I am, They have an opportunity to
prove you and I wrong. Actually throw the book at
these criminals, do it and begging to be wrong? Please
let me be wrong. I would love to see twenty
four to seven wall to wall coverage of the Barack
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Obama trial in Southern District of New York or DC
yearor wherever it would be held. I just don't buy it.
I just don't think you're going to do it. Are
these people criminals? Yes? Should they go to prison? Yes?
Will they No? Not gonna tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
In my role as the Director of National Intelligence, I
oversee eighteen different intelligence community elements, and in the months
leading up to the November twenty sixteen election, the intelligence
community agreed that there was no intelligence that reflected that
Russia was trying to hack the election in favor of
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either candidate. Russia did not have either the intent nor
the capability to be able to impact the outcome of
the United States election. There was a shift in early December.
The first week of December, again, another document was produced
by the intelligence media President's Daily Brief that was consistent
with every other assessment that was done pre leading up
(07:00):
to the election. Russia did not this is after the
election now did not attempt to affect the outcome of
the American election. That was never published hours before would
have gone into President Obama's President's Daily Brief. It was
pulled by a senior level intelligence official saying that they
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had to pull it because they had received new guidance
the very next day. This meeting was called a National
Security Council meeting, bring all together all of the senior
leaders of President Obama's cabinet, and the topic that was
put forward was a sensitive matter. The task that came
out of that meeting was coming from President Obama directing
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the intelligence community, then Obama's OD and I Director Clapper
to produce a document to produce an intelligence assessment that
detailed not if, but how Moscow affected the outcome of
the election that had already occurred, electing Donald Trump to
the presidency. This document that they published in January of
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twenty seventeen was the foundational groundwork that they continued to
reference over and over and over again to enact this
year's long coup against President Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Let's pause it there. I mean, you've got Clapper, Brennan,
Obama basically plotting a coup. The timeline here is important
because we're talking January of seventeen, so Trump has already won,
He's about to take power. So they have set the trap.
They have a total fictitious lie that Russia had colluded
with Donald Trump to rig the election in his favor.
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They've set this trap so that then, even though it's baseless,
they can use it to undermine his presidency throughout the
remainder of his four years, and also really poisoned the
relationship between he and Vladimir Putin, who if you recall,
prior to his first presidential term, he had spoken of like,
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we don't have to be enemies with these guys, and
then suddenly, you know, because he's being accused of being
a traitor to the country and having allied with the
Russians to take the White House, he suddenly has to
be a little bit more of a hard ass with them.
Not to say that we should be, you know, best
friends with the Russia or anything like that, but it'd
be nice if, I don't know, we could have avoided
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them going to war in Ukraine and the proxy war
between US and the Russians in Ukraine and the death
of millions of people. That would be tremendous, but that
wasn't in the cards. And it makes you wonder why
did they do this. Now it could be said that
it's just laying the trap to undermine everything that he
wants to do his agenda so that there's no ability
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to get things done or abilities to stop the war machine.
That's possible, or it could just be that there's other
criminality that they're guilty of that they're trying to cover
up possible, or they genuinely thought that this plot could
get him out of p get him impeached, and get
him I don't know throne in jail or arrested or
just ousted period. I don't know exactly what the game
(10:08):
plan was, But what I think is indicative of how
sick our system is is that this baseless lie plotted
by the Obama regime, not Obama but CIA, the deep state,
so to speak. It's totally baseless, and yet there is
a four plus year I mean really longer than that,
but certainly four years of investigations and prosecutions and whistleblowers
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and this and that, and what will be the response.
I mean, just contrast these two things. Baseless accusation, an
actual conspiracy against the incoming president of the United States
gets four years of investigations and impeachment and prosecutions and
countless dollars an hour spent talking about it talking heads
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just for years talked about this as if it was
a fact. Now you know it's not. It's not a fact.
Will we have years of prosecutions and investigations and wall
to wall coverage and talking heads going no, I don't
think we will. And I think that that's a really
good example of how sick this system is. That a
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genuine hoax, Russia collusion, genuine hoax, this genuinely not a hoax,
a real deal plot to steal the presidency, and you
get nothing. I mean, that's my expectation. As I said,
I hope I'll be proven wrong. We need to be
proven wrong the rich and the powerful. As I said
(11:39):
in the past three episodes, when I'm talking about Epstein,
it's not really about Epstein, It's about can we the
American people expect the political elite, the connected to serve
hard jail time when they commit grievous actions. Well, when
it comes to kids, the answer is no. When it
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comes to them waging aggressive wars against each other, I
guess we're about to find out.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
There's no question in my mind that this intelligence community
assessment that President Obama ordered be published, which contained a
manufactured intelligence document, it's worse than even politicization of intelligence.
It was manufactured intelligence that sought to achieve President Obama
and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump's presidency
(12:28):
and subverting the will of the American people. So yes,
next week we will be releasing more detailed information about
how exactly this took place and the extent to which
this information was sought to be hidden from the American people,
hidden from officials who would be in a position to
do something about it. And that's really the point here
(12:50):
that I think is most important. Accountability is essential for
the future of our country, for the American people to
have any sense of trust in the integrity of our
democratic republic. Accountability, action, prosecution, indictments for those who are
responsible for trying to steal our democracy is essential for
(13:11):
us to make sure that this never happens to our
country again.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Preach TULSI no disagreement there, but I think there's a few,
like I don't know, check marks or dominoes lined up
that really undermine people's faith in the system. I mean,
first off, you already have a huge swath of maga
world that doesn't believe in the outcome of the twenty
twenty election. When Joe Biden won, I don't blame them.
(13:35):
He was like, essentially a cadaver. How the fuck did
that guy win? He didn't even campaign. It was crazy.
So you already have serious doubts about the legitimacy of
election outcomes. Then you have the disparate treatment that comes
from the judiciary when it comes to the j Sixers
or the Whitmer hoax. I mean they I don't even
(13:59):
want to call that entrapment because it's not really entrapment
because they didn't even get these guys to agree to
do what they were trying to get them to do,
which was kidnapp Gretchen Whitmer. They just framed them. I
mean that's really what it was. They got them into
a van and they said or a truck or whatever,
and they said, we're gonna go do this, and these
guys were like, yeah, no, we're not. And they're like, yeah,
you're in on it, going to prison forever. I mean,
(14:21):
it's just it's crazy. So anyways, point being, people already
doubt democracy, Now they doubt the judicial system. Then you
have the Epstein case, that is like another domino that
gets toppled, and there's no faith at this point, particularly
after the botched cover up job that came from the
Trump administration in my opinion, so no faith on that.
Then you have this, which is really a coup against
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the incoming president and what most people perceive to be
one of the only outsiders to get the White House
in the past my entire life. And is there any
justice for these people that are responsible for that? And
I think most people are faithless. They have no belief
that that's actually going to play out that way. I mean,
I'm sure some overly optimistic folks do, but I think
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if you've been paying attention as long as I'm sure
most of us have, why would you believe that? Why
would you think that they're actually going to serve serious
jail time or even be prosecuted. So you've got the
election system, you've got the judiciary. Those are two kind
of foundational building blocks for a functioning civilization. And then
you also have the economic paradigm where people are increasingly
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becoming socialists because they think that well, this is the
capitalist system is failing and that it's you know, basically,
it's all nepotism and if you're not connected, you have
no chance of getting ahead. So might as well just
sign up for socialism. In reality, it's really the product
of crony capitalism and the fact that, yes, it is
very hard to succeed in this system because it's not capitalism,
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it is not a free market, it's incredibly compromised. So
I think that's another kind of pillar of the foundational
build blocks of what made America good and special and functional.
Most importantly, so those are like check check check, like topple.
I mean, once you get through those dominoes, it's very
hard to stand one of them back up, much less
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all of them. And at this point you have an opportunity,
I mean a small one, but you have an opportunity
to stand one of those dominoes back up to say, yes,
the political elite can actually go to prison for the
rest of their lives. Now, I for one, think that
that would be an incredibly important signal to the people
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of this country that yeah, the system does still deliver justice.
The problem hate to be the black pill guy again,
but the problem is that half of this country who
already believes that Donald Trump represents fascism because the TV
talking head's been screaming that at them for the past
eight years or nine or ten. They will perceive him
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prosecuting and locking up Barack Obama or any of these
people as evidence that they're right, that this is fascism.
And then you have the radicalized supporters of these folks
that will almost certainly hit the streets and start writing
and burning stuff down. It's kind of a cash twenty two.
I don't know how you make this work without like,
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you have to pay a price if you're at the
highest levels of power and you commit terrible crimes. But
also you have already propagandized your supporters to believe that
if they try and do that, if they actually try
and lock you up, well then it's fascist. It's fascism
and you must rise up against it. I mean that's
the argument that they'll make. So ah, look, you got
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to give them credit. I don't like to, but like,
they have set the frame so well that if you
don't do anything well, then the system is defunct and
people will start to give up on it and start
to give up hope and revolution comes from that pathway
as well. Or you do lock up your political opponents,
and then you have the Democrat base and particularly the
more radical left version of it that rises up thinking
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that they're now facing a fascistic regime because Rachel Maddow
told them that Barack Obama's innocent is the driven snow
along with Hillary Clinton and Brennan and Clapper and everybody else.
I mean, it's genius when you actually think about how
they have manipulated people's minds to perceive things. You referring
this in a criminal matter.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
We are referring all of the documents that we have
uncovered to the Department of Justice and the FBI as
for a criminal referral.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, and do you believe that we will see prosecutions?
I mean, our audience wants to know where this story
goes from here. Will we ever see anyone held accountable
for this incredible lie on the American people.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I will do all that I can, and we have whistleblowers, actually,
Maria coming forward now after we release these documents, because
there are people who were around, who were working within
the intelligence community at this time who were so disgusted
by what happened. We're starting to see some of them
come out of the woodwork here because they too, like
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you and I and the American people, want to see
justice delivered. So we're going to provide everything that we have,
everything that we will continue to gather to the Department
of Justice for that direct intent and that direct purpose,
there must be indictments those responsible, no matter how powerful
they are and were at that time, no matter who
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was involved in creating this treasonous conspiracy against the American people,
they all must be held accountable.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So all of our hopes and dreams right on the
shoulders of the age, Miss Bindergate herself phase one that
never had a Phase two, Pam Bondy, That's that's what
we're riding on. Uh, look, I know that's how it works.
Tolcy's not lying. That's she's like, Yeah, it's a referra
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for investigations and prosecutions to the AG and and the DJ
and we'll see what happens. And you know, I I'll
take toulsi outter word that she's sincere and that she's
going to try and push that. But do you have
any faith just sincere? Like, if you think that I'm wrong,
I would love cheer me up, tell me, drop a
comment down, belope, tell me why they're actually going to
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prosecute Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, James Clapper, Brennan comy, like,
should they yes, why do you have any faith that
they will? Pembody said that she had thousands of hours
of Epstein on video doing terrible things. Now there's no
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other clients. She also said she had the client list
on her desk and she was reviewing it. Now there
is no client list. There was a phase one with
much more to come, and then there was no phase two.
But the beloved Barack Obama is going to go to
prison for decades for China or the presidency. I'm sorry,
I'm just not buying it. I wish I could. I
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wish I could. And I know there's a lot of
bag of influence influencers out there that'll get way bigger
numbers than I will, because they'll say, ah, justice is coming,
Barack Obama and Big Mike are going to prison. It's like, no,
they're not show me. Prove me wrong, Please prove me wrong.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Why didn't Durham find it? Why didn't Muller find it? Okay,
what about the Pfiser judges? Because when you look at
this seditious conspiracy aimed at overthrowing the US government and
an elected president, you have to consider also the black
robes you've got to look at the Pfiser judges, and
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how about the fact that the judge who gave a
slap on the wrist to Kevin Kleinsmith, who was the
FBI agent who lied on an official document about Carter Page,
who was spied on for a year. That judge is
Judge James Bolsberg.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
He's still at.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
His desk and he's still trying to stop Donald Trump's agenda.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I don't disagree with anything that Barbiromo is saying there,
but here's the problem. If you start to prosecute judges
for their corruption, oh man, well, the MSNBC, CNN audience
start to think that like fascism is for real here.
And I am not saying not to do it. I
want to be very clear. If you are corrupt, which
many of these judges are and almost all of the
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politicians are, and you've committed these terrible crimes or you've
participated in them, you absolutely ought to be prosecuted. I'm
not saying don't do that. I'm just saying, put yourself
in blun'non headspace and think about how they're going to
perceive that they already believe that they're fighting fascism, and
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they have no reason to believe that. There's no evidence
whatsoever to believe that. But if you start to see
judges perp walked, if you start to see the deified,
the reincarnation of Jesus Christ himself in black skin, Barack Obama,
if you see him purp walked, if you see him
sitting for trial for seditious conspiracy to overthrow the government
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of the United States of America, they will absolutely think
that they are dealing with a fascist dictator. That's what
they're going to say. So I'm not saying don't do it.
I'm just saying they're going to respond in a way
that is insane. Prepare yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
This is of such historic consequence that it cannot be
limited to one or two or three different people. You
just outlined the implications and the effects of what actually occurred,
and I think you're really putting into a clear picture
what we are referring to when we refer to the
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deep state. It is very far reaching. I don't know
what excuse there is for those who supposedly investigated this previously,
whether it was Durham or others, that they were not
able to put together the dots and and ultimately show
the truth to the American people.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Now, mind you, John Durham spent years investigating the Russia
collusion case, years, tens of millions of dollars investigating it,
and he didn't come up with this. Consider the fact that, like,
if you were listening to I don't even know if
I was. Yeah, I wasn't even doing my showback then.
So this was more Dave Smith covering this, and he
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did a great job with him, and Robbie did an
amazing job covering this. But I knew about this six
plus years ago, like anybody in my world. We knew
about this fucking forever ago. And yet you have years
of a top prosecutor like John Durham, this guy who's like,
I mean, the way they talked about this guy, like,
if there is anything fucking out of order, if there's
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any specadert, John Durham's gonna find it. He's gonna lock
everybody up. And what did he find? Nothing? Because they're
was nothing? But why was there nothing? And why was
this lie began? And you're telling me that John Durham
investigated this for all those years and he never came
to the conclusion that this was all a plot that
Hillary Clinton and Brennan and Clapper and all these people
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created whole cloth fiction. He didn't include that in his report, now,
did he. But Tulsi, all of a sudden, is a
head of d and I and she comes out with it,
and it's like, well, yeah, then there's something deeply wrong
with what Durham did too. But I mean it's worse
than that. I mean, it's not worse than that. It's
just adding to that is Bill Barr, who came out
and said, you know, within I think it was within
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a day, he was already parroting the line that Epstein
had taken himself out in lock up, and it's just
like this, it's just it's all so corrupt, it's so filthy,
corrupt at the highest levels. And if you're going to
actually purge it, if you're going to actually investigate and
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pross acute or indict and prosecute and jail the people
behind this, which is what we need, let me be
very clear, that's what needs to happen. But the reaction
will be insane, and I just don't think that the
American people have the spine for it, for the fallout
that will happen in our civilization as a consequence of this,
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but it doesn't change the fact it needs to happen.
It must happen if you're going to have a functioning
country again, where we aren't at each other's throats, where
we actually have some semblance of an understanding of like
our world views. Just think about how incredibly separated our
world views became as a consequence of the Russian collusion hoax.
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You have tens of millions of Americans, one hundred percent convinced,
most of them to this day, that Donald Trump colluded
with Vladimir Putin to steal the White House, to steal
the presidency from Hillary Rodham Clinton. That's what they believe.
And then you have everybody else who's not a lunatic
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that knew for years and years that these people were
out of their fucking minds and that that didn't happen.
But now can investigations, indictments and prosecutions and jailing of
these people actually wake up the tens of millions that
bought that lie for years and years and years. I
don't know, I hope so some. I'm sure most, I'd
(27:28):
say definitely not all, You're crazy, No, you're not bringing
the vast majority of these people back to the land
of the same, And what do you do with those people?
I don't know. I don't have an answer for that.
It's like we live amongst zombies, and the crazy thing
is they feel the same way about you and I.
They're completely convinced that we're zombies because we don't believe
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that Vladimir Putin handed the presidency to Donald Trump? Is
there any evidence to back up their claims?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Do we have evidence to back up our claims? Yeah, lots?
Does that matter? No, we're just two different paths. I
think it's Scott Adams that says the one screen, two
different movies or something like that. That's kind of what
it feels like. I'm not arguing like I think that
the reason historically we're on the same screen or on
the same movie is because we didn't have alternative media sources.
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We didn't have or the Internet for that matter. We
didn't have the ability to actually do our own research
and suss out the truth on our own, which kind
of started the dividing line between the two sides of
our culture. Those that just still watched that movie screen
that was filled with bullshit forever and ever when it
comes to propaganda for war whatever else. And then you
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have the rest of us who are just like, now,
I'm gonna go figure out what actually happened because I
don't trust the news guys anymore because I look at
their track record and they lied over and over again,
and I think that's really where we're at, just completely
bifurcated civilization. And can you bring can you congeal again?
Can you bring it back together? I don't know, but
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I will say if you have a hope of doing so,
you're going to have to do something like this, like
what Tulsi is prescribing. You're going to have to have
actual trials, preferably televised, where the evidence is presented and
it's irrefutable, text, messages, emails. It would be even better
if you had video or audio recordings. All of that
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would be helpful, if you could actually demonstrate, yes, this
was a hoax. Yes, Hillary Clinton crafted the Steele Dossa.
Barack Obama, along with the CIA and the FBI, the
spying operation, and the completely made up intelligence reports that
said that Russia was cluding with Donald Trump. That's the
only way, that's the only way we have a chance
(29:41):
at bringing our country back together, and in the process
it may all come crumbling down. And here's the really
crazy thing. You know, who was the Director of National
Intelligence under Donald Trump in his first presidential term, who
oversaw all of this Who would have had the capacity
to to get to the truth, just as Tulci Gabbett has.
(30:02):
That would be John Ratcliffe. Guess who he is, Guess
where he's stationed today, head of the CIA. And this
is what begs the question of like, what the fuck
is wrong with Donald Trump? I look, I know if
you love the guy, Sorry, I have to ask this question.
I think you ought to be asking to yourself too.
Ratcliffe was the d and I the Director of National Intelligence.
(30:23):
All of this information that Tulsi now has, he could
have gotten to Donald Trump in his first presidential term.
He didn't. Why well, because he's not on Trump's team.
So why, for God's sakes is this guy now the
head of the CIA under Donald Trump in his second
term after facing years of lies and prosecutions and impeachments
(30:44):
and everything else. Why the fuck do you fail? Upwards?
You basically oversaw an attempted coup, and then the guy
that you tried to coop, gave you a promotion. What
sense does any of this make? It makes no sense,
which is why as I flip flop constantly, because I'm like,
Donald Trump is facing eight hundred years in prison, he
(31:05):
had a bullet graze his head. Uh, he was impeached
multiple times, the FBI spied on him, They did all
of these things, the Russia collusion, the hopes, everything else,
and I'm like, he must be an outsider. And then
he goes and he fucking points Ratcliffe, the former d
and I who oversaw the attempted coup against himself and
didn't say a fucking thing about it, and he's now
(31:26):
the head of the CIA. What is happening? Why is
it happening like this? I don't know. I'm just being
honest with you, guys. I don't understand it. And then
the super Black Bill people will just swoop into my
comments going, oh, you fucking idiot, you think that they're
on different teams. This is all a show. There will
be no trials, there will be no jailing it D
da da dad, Okay, maybe maybe you're right. I don't know,
(31:48):
just saying it's all very strange. Can we at least
admit that, like they did a lot, like if this
is all just a big play and they're all in
on it. Wow, these guys are incredible actors. I don't
know if you've seen Donald Trump and Home alone two.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Excuse me down the hall and to the left, But I.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Don't think he's that good of a fucking actor honestly,
or ww we like, come on. So it's just very
hard to dissect. It's very hard to decipher and comprehend
what's actually happening. And I think, like where I normally
fall is I think that these are warring gangs more
(32:29):
or less. The real like showman aspect of it is
that they all realize that, look, we play hard and
fast and loose with the rules, and at the end
of the day, none of us go to prison. Okay,
that's like, that's the real rule. We'll frame each other
for treason and do all sorts of wild shit, but
at the end of the day, we pardon each other,
and whoever lies best gets to hold power for the
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next four years. Like, I think that's how it actually works.
Its cynical and crappy, is that it is to believe.
But I can't come up with a better answer or diagnosis.
It's so confused. So who all needs to go to prison?
You ask, Well, let's listen to mister Strock as to
who was involved at.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Every step, at every investigative decision. There are multiple layers
of people above me the assistant director, executive assistant director,
deputy director, and director of the FBI, and multiple layers
of people below me, section chiefs, supervisors, unit chiefs, case agents,
and analysts, all of whom were involved in all of
these decisions.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So if you believe, as I believe, that that's what happened,
that there was an attempted coup against the incoming president
of United States, and then an attempted coup while he
was the President of United States, including impeachment and everything else,
you have to acknowledge that this is not just Barack
Obama or Hillary Clinton. This is top brass including probably
like chain of command, FBI, CIA probably. I mean, it's
(33:53):
just so vast, but it's obviously true that's what happened.
So that is the deep state. If you want to
restore faith in this system, to restore faith in this country,
you have one pathway forward, and it is incredibly arduous task.
You have to take on the people that take you
out if you get out of line. Do you have
(34:14):
the courage to do that? Well, based off of your
handling slash cover up of the Epstein case, I would
say no, you don't prove me wrong. I would love, love,
love to actually have hope that this system is reformable
through the judiciary, through the ballot box, because over the
(34:34):
past month I've been thinking about a different type of box,
and I don't like thinking about that box. So let's
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right here. Peace,
There's no question in my mind that this intelligence community
assessment that President Obama ordered be published, which contained a
manufactured intelligence document, It's worse than even politicization of intelligence.
It was manufactured intelligence that sought to achieve President Obama
and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump's presidency
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and subverting the will of the American people. And that's
really the point here that I think is most important, Maria,
and you set it in your opening. Accountability is essential
for the future of our country, for the American people
to have any sense of trust in the integrity of
our democratic republic. Accountability, action, prosecution, indictments for those who
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are responsible for trying to steal our democracy is essential
for us to make sure that this never happens to
our country again.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You guys buying it, Yeah, me either. It's unfortunate that
because I've been studying this stuff for years now, as
you guys do as well, since you pay attention as
much as I do, I'm sure we all know that
this is what happened. We all know that Hillary Clinton
was behind the Steele dossier. We all know that the
CIA and the FBI and the Obama administration and Hillary
(01:17):
Clinton all collaborated to frame Trump for treason, and now
there's this big expose eight plus years later, and you
have this ground swell of lock them up, Hillary Clinton, Obama,
They're all going to prison. I'm sorry, but like, if
you can't put behind bars a human trafficking operation, a
(01:41):
la Epstein, why should I have any faith at all
that you're actually gonna do this? And I think that
at the I mean, We're gonna watch the entire interview
with Tulci because I think that it's at least interesting.
It's good to know what's happening, it's good to know
what the narrative is. But I just want to kind
of cut to the chase here. Oftentimes people talk about
the uniparty or the duopoly. The more black filed folks
(02:03):
will say there is no difference between the two parties.
That may be true. I'm not saying that it's not,
but I'm just the way I view it is that
even if you assume that there are two different sides
of the aisle, I still look at it like warring
gang leaders. It's not really a fight for real, for
real in terms of like, oh, if this gang leader wins,
(02:27):
we win, or if this gang leader wins, we win. No,
that just means that that gang wins. And I think
the real way this functions is, even if these people
are actually adversarial, which I think they could be to
a large extent, a good metaphor to think of it
this way is that when it comes to cartel wars,
(02:47):
oftentimes there will not be actual movement against the head,
the cartel boss. If there's beef between the cartels, there
will be you know, lower level gang men that may
be taken out in the crossfire or in the infighting
between the different gangs or the different mobs. But at
(03:07):
the end of the day, they don't really want to
take out the top guy because that opens the door
for them coming for the top guy and his family
and his close associates. So I think that's kind of
how our government works. Unfortunately, that if you actually open
the door to imprisoning a former president, which is what
a lot of MAGA country is saying right now, lock
(03:30):
Obama up. Look, I'm all for it, I'm all for
locking up all the politicians basically at this point, but
I just don't think that they're going to go down
that path because then it actually opens the door for
imprisoning everybody. And the way it really functions right now is,
no matter how criminal, they all kind of know that
(03:51):
you're not gonna actually go to prison. Sure you might
get fined, Sure you'll be dragged through the mud, you'll
be dragged through the tabloids, you'll be dragged through the
court system, But will you go to prison? Like for decades,
when's the last time you saw a politician do that?
You know, it's like Rod Blgoyevitch. There's a handful of
political operatives that have seen jailed time, the vast majority
(04:12):
of them. It's like they get thrown in jail. The
next guy wins the White House, he pardons all of
his associates, and the cycle begins to know, no one
ever actually goes to prison, and they never really go
to prison for the things that they ought to go
to prison for, like war crimes. They go to prison
for like tax evasion, which is just not good enough.
(04:33):
I mean, I want to be very clear, I am
not downplaying what Obama and that entire camp did to
the Trump administration. It is egregious. I think it could
be argued that it's treason espionage of sorts. I don't
even know what the actual technical laws violated are other
than they are grievous, very very severe. So what I
(04:57):
like to see justice restored? Yeah? Of course I would
love to see politicians be put behind bars for corruption
and criminality. The vast majority of them ought to be.
But will they be? Will they actually open Pandora's box?
And a lot of people thought that Pandora's box had
been open when Donald Trump was facing eight hundred years
behind bars. But was he really And I'm not sure.
(05:19):
I mean, maybe he was. I don't know. He certainly
faced a lot of trials, but it's like as soon
as he won the election, they were just kind of
gone and all of the threats against him were just
poof vanished. You're back in power, all right, Well, we
tried to keep you out. You got it. Now what
are you gonna do with it? Trump and his administration
(05:42):
have an opportunity to prove you because I assume you're
as jaded as I am, They have an opportunity to
prove you and I wrong. Actually throw the book at
these criminals, do it and begging to be wrong? Please
let me be wrong. I would love to see twenty
four to seven wall to wall coverage of the Barack
(06:03):
Obama trial in Southern District of New York or DC
yearor wherever it would be held. I just don't buy it.
I just don't think you're going to do it. Are
these people criminals? Yes? Should they go to prison? Yes?
Will they No? Not gonna tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
In my role as the Director of National Intelligence, I
oversee eighteen different intelligence community elements, and in the months
leading up to the November twenty sixteen election, the intelligence
community agreed that there was no intelligence that reflected that
Russia was trying to hack the election in favor of
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either candidate. Russia did not have either the intent nor
the capability to be able to impact the outcome of
the United States election. There was a shift in early December.
The first week of December, again, another document was produced
by the intelligence media President's Daily Brief that was consistent
with every other assessment that was done pre leading up
(07:00):
to the election. Russia did not this is after the
election now did not attempt to affect the outcome of
the American election. That was never published hours before would
have gone into President Obama's President's Daily Brief. It was
pulled by a senior level intelligence official saying that they
(07:23):
had to pull it because they had received new guidance
the very next day. This meeting was called a National
Security Council meeting, bring all together all of the senior
leaders of President Obama's cabinet, and the topic that was
put forward was a sensitive matter. The task that came
out of that meeting was coming from President Obama directing
(07:46):
the intelligence community, then Obama's OD and I Director Clapper
to produce a document to produce an intelligence assessment that
detailed not if, but how Moscow affected the outcome of
the election that had already occurred, electing Donald Trump to
the presidency. This document that they published in January of
(08:09):
twenty seventeen was the foundational groundwork that they continued to
reference over and over and over again to enact this
year's long coup against President Trump.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Let's pause it there. I mean, you've got Clapper, Brennan,
Obama basically plotting a coup. The timeline here is important
because we're talking January of seventeen, so Trump has already won,
He's about to take power. So they have set the trap.
They have a total fictitious lie that Russia had colluded
with Donald Trump to rig the election in his favor.
(08:43):
They've set this trap so that then, even though it's baseless,
they can use it to undermine his presidency throughout the
remainder of his four years, and also really poisoned the
relationship between he and Vladimir Putin, who if you recall,
prior to his first presidential term, he had spoken of like,
(09:03):
we don't have to be enemies with these guys, and
then suddenly, you know, because he's being accused of being
a traitor to the country and having allied with the
Russians to take the White House, he suddenly has to
be a little bit more of a hard ass with them.
Not to say that we should be, you know, best
friends with the Russia or anything like that, but it'd
be nice if, I don't know, we could have avoided
(09:24):
them going to war in Ukraine and the proxy war
between US and the Russians in Ukraine and the death
of millions of people. That would be tremendous, but that
wasn't in the cards. And it makes you wonder why
did they do this. Now it could be said that
it's just laying the trap to undermine everything that he
wants to do his agenda so that there's no ability
(09:45):
to get things done or abilities to stop the war machine.
That's possible, or it could just be that there's other
criminality that they're guilty of that they're trying to cover
up possible, or they genuinely thought that this plot could
get him out of p get him impeached, and get
him I don't know throne in jail or arrested or
just ousted period. I don't know exactly what the game
(10:08):
plan was, But what I think is indicative of how
sick our system is is that this baseless lie plotted
by the Obama regime, not Obama but CIA, the deep state,
so to speak. It's totally baseless, and yet there is
a four plus year I mean really longer than that,
but certainly four years of investigations and prosecutions and whistleblowers
(10:34):
and this and that, and what will be the response.
I mean, just contrast these two things. Baseless accusation, an
actual conspiracy against the incoming president of the United States
gets four years of investigations and impeachment and prosecutions and
countless dollars an hour spent talking about it talking heads
(10:57):
just for years talked about this as if it was
a fact. Now you know it's not. It's not a fact.
Will we have years of prosecutions and investigations and wall
to wall coverage and talking heads going no, I don't
think we will. And I think that that's a really
good example of how sick this system is. That a
(11:18):
genuine hoax, Russia collusion, genuine hoax, this genuinely not a hoax,
a real deal plot to steal the presidency, and you
get nothing. I mean, that's my expectation. As I said,
I hope I'll be proven wrong. We need to be
proven wrong the rich and the powerful. As I said
(11:39):
in the past three episodes, when I'm talking about Epstein,
it's not really about Epstein, It's about can we the
American people expect the political elite, the connected to serve
hard jail time when they commit grievous actions. Well, when
it comes to kids, the answer is no. When it
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comes to them waging aggressive wars against each other, I
guess we're about to find out.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
There's no question in my mind that this intelligence community
assessment that President Obama ordered be published, which contained a
manufactured intelligence document, it's worse than even politicization of intelligence.
It was manufactured intelligence that sought to achieve President Obama
and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump's presidency
(12:28):
and subverting the will of the American people. So yes,
next week we will be releasing more detailed information about
how exactly this took place and the extent to which
this information was sought to be hidden from the American people,
hidden from officials who would be in a position to
do something about it. And that's really the point here
(12:50):
that I think is most important. Accountability is essential for
the future of our country, for the American people to
have any sense of trust in the integrity of our
democratic republic. Accountability, action, prosecution, indictments for those who are
responsible for trying to steal our democracy is essential for
(13:11):
us to make sure that this never happens to our
country again.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
Preach TULSI no disagreement there, but I think there's a few,
like I don't know, check marks or dominoes lined up
that really undermine people's faith in the system. I mean,
first off, you already have a huge swath of maga
world that doesn't believe in the outcome of the twenty
twenty election. When Joe Biden won, I don't blame them.
(13:35):
He was like, essentially a cadaver. How the fuck did
that guy win? He didn't even campaign. It was crazy.
So you already have serious doubts about the legitimacy of
election outcomes. Then you have the disparate treatment that comes
from the judiciary when it comes to the j Sixers
or the Whitmer hoax. I mean they I don't even
(13:59):
want to call that entrapment because it's not really entrapment
because they didn't even get these guys to agree to
do what they were trying to get them to do,
which was kidnapp Gretchen Whitmer. They just framed them. I
mean that's really what it was. They got them into
a van and they said or a truck or whatever,
and they said, we're gonna go do this, and these
guys were like, yeah, no, we're not. And they're like, yeah,
you're in on it, going to prison forever. I mean,
(14:21):
it's just it's crazy. So anyways, point being, people already
doubt democracy, Now they doubt the judicial system. Then you
have the Epstein case, that is like another domino that
gets toppled, and there's no faith at this point, particularly
after the botched cover up job that came from the
Trump administration in my opinion, so no faith on that.
Then you have this, which is really a coup against
(14:44):
the incoming president and what most people perceive to be
one of the only outsiders to get the White House
in the past my entire life. And is there any
justice for these people that are responsible for that? And
I think most people are faithless. They have no belief
that that's actually going to play out that way. I mean,
I'm sure some overly optimistic folks do, but I think
(15:06):
if you've been paying attention as long as I'm sure
most of us have, why would you believe that? Why
would you think that they're actually going to serve serious
jail time or even be prosecuted. So you've got the
election system, you've got the judiciary. Those are two kind
of foundational building blocks for a functioning civilization. And then
you also have the economic paradigm where people are increasingly
(15:31):
becoming socialists because they think that well, this is the
capitalist system is failing and that it's you know, basically,
it's all nepotism and if you're not connected, you have
no chance of getting ahead. So might as well just
sign up for socialism. In reality, it's really the product
of crony capitalism and the fact that, yes, it is
very hard to succeed in this system because it's not capitalism,
(15:52):
it is not a free market, it's incredibly compromised. So
I think that's another kind of pillar of the foundational
build blocks of what made America good and special and functional.
Most importantly, so those are like check check check, like topple.
I mean, once you get through those dominoes, it's very
hard to stand one of them back up, much less
(16:15):
all of them. And at this point you have an opportunity,
I mean a small one, but you have an opportunity
to stand one of those dominoes back up to say, yes,
the political elite can actually go to prison for the
rest of their lives. Now, I for one, think that
that would be an incredibly important signal to the people
(16:35):
of this country that yeah, the system does still deliver justice.
The problem hate to be the black pill guy again,
but the problem is that half of this country who
already believes that Donald Trump represents fascism because the TV
talking head's been screaming that at them for the past
eight years or nine or ten. They will perceive him
(16:57):
prosecuting and locking up Barack Obama or any of these
people as evidence that they're right, that this is fascism.
And then you have the radicalized supporters of these folks
that will almost certainly hit the streets and start writing
and burning stuff down. It's kind of a cash twenty two.
I don't know how you make this work without like,
(17:17):
you have to pay a price if you're at the
highest levels of power and you commit terrible crimes. But
also you have already propagandized your supporters to believe that
if they try and do that, if they actually try
and lock you up, well then it's fascist. It's fascism
and you must rise up against it. I mean that's
the argument that they'll make. So ah, look, you got
(17:40):
to give them credit. I don't like to, but like,
they have set the frame so well that if you
don't do anything well, then the system is defunct and
people will start to give up on it and start
to give up hope and revolution comes from that pathway
as well. Or you do lock up your political opponents,
and then you have the Democrat base and particularly the
more radical left version of it that rises up thinking
(18:02):
that they're now facing a fascistic regime because Rachel Maddow
told them that Barack Obama's innocent is the driven snow
along with Hillary Clinton and Brennan and Clapper and everybody else.
I mean, it's genius when you actually think about how
they have manipulated people's minds to perceive things. You referring
this in a criminal matter.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
We are referring all of the documents that we have
uncovered to the Department of Justice and the FBI as
for a criminal referral.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, and do you believe that we will see prosecutions?
I mean, our audience wants to know where this story
goes from here. Will we ever see anyone held accountable
for this incredible lie on the American people.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I will do all that I can, and we have whistleblowers, actually,
Maria coming forward now after we release these documents, because
there are people who were around, who were working within
the intelligence community at this time who were so disgusted
by what happened. We're starting to see some of them
come out of the woodwork here because they too, like
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you and I and the American people, want to see
justice delivered. So we're going to provide everything that we have,
everything that we will continue to gather to the Department
of Justice for that direct intent and that direct purpose,
there must be indictments those responsible, no matter how powerful
they are and were at that time, no matter who
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was involved in creating this treasonous conspiracy against the American people,
they all must be held accountable.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So all of our hopes and dreams right on the
shoulders of the age, Miss Bindergate herself phase one that
never had a Phase two, Pam Bondy, That's that's what
we're riding on. Uh, look, I know that's how it works.
Tolcy's not lying. That's she's like, Yeah, it's a referra
(20:00):
for investigations and prosecutions to the AG and and the DJ
and we'll see what happens. And you know, I I'll
take toulsi outter word that she's sincere and that she's
going to try and push that. But do you have
any faith just sincere? Like, if you think that I'm wrong,
I would love cheer me up, tell me, drop a
comment down, belope, tell me why they're actually going to
(20:23):
prosecute Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, James Clapper, Brennan comy, like,
should they yes, why do you have any faith that
they will? Pembody said that she had thousands of hours
of Epstein on video doing terrible things. Now there's no
(20:44):
other clients. She also said she had the client list
on her desk and she was reviewing it. Now there
is no client list. There was a phase one with
much more to come, and then there was no phase two.
But the beloved Barack Obama is going to go to
prison for decades for China or the presidency. I'm sorry,
I'm just not buying it. I wish I could. I
(21:06):
wish I could. And I know there's a lot of
bag of influence influencers out there that'll get way bigger
numbers than I will, because they'll say, ah, justice is coming,
Barack Obama and Big Mike are going to prison. It's like, no,
they're not show me. Prove me wrong, Please prove me wrong.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Why didn't Durham find it? Why didn't Muller find it? Okay,
what about the Pfiser judges? Because when you look at
this seditious conspiracy aimed at overthrowing the US government and
an elected president, you have to consider also the black
robes you've got to look at the Pfiser judges, and
(21:44):
how about the fact that the judge who gave a
slap on the wrist to Kevin Kleinsmith, who was the
FBI agent who lied on an official document about Carter Page,
who was spied on for a year. That judge is
Judge James Bolsberg.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
He's still at.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
His desk and he's still trying to stop Donald Trump's agenda.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
I don't disagree with anything that Barbiromo is saying there,
but here's the problem. If you start to prosecute judges
for their corruption, oh man, well, the MSNBC, CNN audience
start to think that like fascism is for real here.
And I am not saying not to do it. I
want to be very clear. If you are corrupt, which
many of these judges are and almost all of the
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politicians are, and you've committed these terrible crimes or you've
participated in them, you absolutely ought to be prosecuted. I'm
not saying don't do that. I'm just saying, put yourself
in blun'non headspace and think about how they're going to
perceive that they already believe that they're fighting fascism, and
(22:50):
they have no reason to believe that. There's no evidence
whatsoever to believe that. But if you start to see
judges perp walked, if you start to see the deified,
the reincarnation of Jesus Christ himself in black skin, Barack Obama,
if you see him purp walked, if you see him
sitting for trial for seditious conspiracy to overthrow the government
(23:13):
of the United States of America, they will absolutely think
that they are dealing with a fascist dictator. That's what
they're going to say. So I'm not saying don't do it.
I'm just saying they're going to respond in a way
that is insane. Prepare yourself.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
This is of such historic consequence that it cannot be
limited to one or two or three different people. You
just outlined the implications and the effects of what actually occurred,
and I think you're really putting into a clear picture
what we are referring to when we refer to the
(23:51):
deep state. It is very far reaching. I don't know
what excuse there is for those who supposedly investigated this previously,
whether it was Durham or others, that they were not
able to put together the dots and and ultimately show
the truth to the American people.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Now, mind you, John Durham spent years investigating the Russia
collusion case, years, tens of millions of dollars investigating it,
and he didn't come up with this. Consider the fact that, like,
if you were listening to I don't even know if
I was. Yeah, I wasn't even doing my showback then.
So this was more Dave Smith covering this, and he
(24:29):
did a great job with him, and Robbie did an
amazing job covering this. But I knew about this six
plus years ago, like anybody in my world. We knew
about this fucking forever ago. And yet you have years
of a top prosecutor like John Durham, this guy who's like,
I mean, the way they talked about this guy, like,
if there is anything fucking out of order, if there's
(24:52):
any specadert, John Durham's gonna find it. He's gonna lock
everybody up. And what did he find? Nothing? Because they're
was nothing? But why was there nothing? And why was
this lie began? And you're telling me that John Durham
investigated this for all those years and he never came
to the conclusion that this was all a plot that
Hillary Clinton and Brennan and Clapper and all these people
(25:14):
created whole cloth fiction. He didn't include that in his report, now,
did he. But Tulsi, all of a sudden, is a
head of d and I and she comes out with it,
and it's like, well, yeah, then there's something deeply wrong
with what Durham did too. But I mean it's worse
than that. I mean, it's not worse than that. It's
just adding to that is Bill Barr, who came out
and said, you know, within I think it was within
(25:36):
a day, he was already parroting the line that Epstein
had taken himself out in lock up, and it's just
like this, it's just it's all so corrupt, it's so filthy,
corrupt at the highest levels. And if you're going to
actually purge it, if you're going to actually investigate and
(25:59):
pross acute or indict and prosecute and jail the people
behind this, which is what we need, let me be
very clear, that's what needs to happen. But the reaction
will be insane, and I just don't think that the
American people have the spine for it, for the fallout
that will happen in our civilization as a consequence of this,
(26:20):
but it doesn't change the fact it needs to happen.
It must happen if you're going to have a functioning
country again, where we aren't at each other's throats, where
we actually have some semblance of an understanding of like
our world views. Just think about how incredibly separated our
world views became as a consequence of the Russian collusion hoax.
(26:43):
You have tens of millions of Americans, one hundred percent convinced,
most of them to this day, that Donald Trump colluded
with Vladimir Putin to steal the White House, to steal
the presidency from Hillary Rodham Clinton. That's what they believe.
And then you have everybody else who's not a lunatic
(27:05):
that knew for years and years that these people were
out of their fucking minds and that that didn't happen.
But now can investigations, indictments and prosecutions and jailing of
these people actually wake up the tens of millions that
bought that lie for years and years and years. I
don't know, I hope so some. I'm sure most, I'd
(27:28):
say definitely not all, You're crazy, No, you're not bringing
the vast majority of these people back to the land
of the same, And what do you do with those people?
I don't know. I don't have an answer for that.
It's like we live amongst zombies, and the crazy thing
is they feel the same way about you and I.
They're completely convinced that we're zombies because we don't believe
(27:49):
that Vladimir Putin handed the presidency to Donald Trump? Is
there any evidence to back up their claims?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Do we have evidence to back up our claims? Yeah, lots?
Does that matter? No, we're just two different paths. I
think it's Scott Adams that says the one screen, two
different movies or something like that. That's kind of what
it feels like. I'm not arguing like I think that
the reason historically we're on the same screen or on
the same movie is because we didn't have alternative media sources.
(28:16):
We didn't have or the Internet for that matter. We
didn't have the ability to actually do our own research
and suss out the truth on our own, which kind
of started the dividing line between the two sides of
our culture. Those that just still watched that movie screen
that was filled with bullshit forever and ever when it
comes to propaganda for war whatever else. And then you
(28:37):
have the rest of us who are just like, now,
I'm gonna go figure out what actually happened because I
don't trust the news guys anymore because I look at
their track record and they lied over and over again,
and I think that's really where we're at, just completely
bifurcated civilization. And can you bring can you congeal again?
Can you bring it back together? I don't know, but
(29:00):
I will say if you have a hope of doing so,
you're going to have to do something like this, like
what Tulsi is prescribing. You're going to have to have
actual trials, preferably televised, where the evidence is presented and
it's irrefutable, text, messages, emails. It would be even better
if you had video or audio recordings. All of that
(29:20):
would be helpful, if you could actually demonstrate, yes, this
was a hoax. Yes, Hillary Clinton crafted the Steele Dossa.
Barack Obama, along with the CIA and the FBI, the
spying operation, and the completely made up intelligence reports that
said that Russia was cluding with Donald Trump. That's the
only way, that's the only way we have a chance
(29:41):
at bringing our country back together, and in the process
it may all come crumbling down. And here's the really
crazy thing. You know, who was the Director of National
Intelligence under Donald Trump in his first presidential term, who
oversaw all of this Who would have had the capacity
to to get to the truth, just as Tulci Gabbett has.
(30:02):
That would be John Ratcliffe. Guess who he is, Guess
where he's stationed today, head of the CIA. And this
is what begs the question of like, what the fuck
is wrong with Donald Trump? I look, I know if
you love the guy, Sorry, I have to ask this question.
I think you ought to be asking to yourself too.
Ratcliffe was the d and I the Director of National Intelligence.
(30:23):
All of this information that Tulsi now has, he could
have gotten to Donald Trump in his first presidential term.
He didn't. Why well, because he's not on Trump's team.
So why, for God's sakes is this guy now the
head of the CIA under Donald Trump in his second
term after facing years of lies and prosecutions and impeachments
(30:44):
and everything else. Why the fuck do you fail? Upwards?
You basically oversaw an attempted coup, and then the guy
that you tried to coop, gave you a promotion. What
sense does any of this make? It makes no sense,
which is why as I flip flop constantly, because I'm like,
Donald Trump is facing eight hundred years in prison, he
(31:05):
had a bullet graze his head. Uh, he was impeached
multiple times, the FBI spied on him, They did all
of these things, the Russia collusion, the hopes, everything else,
and I'm like, he must be an outsider. And then
he goes and he fucking points Ratcliffe, the former d
and I who oversaw the attempted coup against himself and
didn't say a fucking thing about it, and he's now
(31:26):
the head of the CIA. What is happening? Why is
it happening like this? I don't know. I'm just being
honest with you, guys. I don't understand it. And then
the super Black Bill people will just swoop into my
comments going, oh, you fucking idiot, you think that they're
on different teams. This is all a show. There will
be no trials, there will be no jailing it D
da da dad, Okay, maybe maybe you're right. I don't know,
(31:48):
just saying it's all very strange. Can we at least
admit that, like they did a lot, like if this
is all just a big play and they're all in
on it. Wow, these guys are incredible actors. I don't
know if you've seen Donald Trump and Home alone two.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Excuse me down the hall and to the left, But I.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Don't think he's that good of a fucking actor honestly,
or ww we like, come on. So it's just very
hard to dissect. It's very hard to decipher and comprehend
what's actually happening. And I think, like where I normally
fall is I think that these are warring gangs more
(32:29):
or less. The real like showman aspect of it is
that they all realize that, look, we play hard and
fast and loose with the rules, and at the end
of the day, none of us go to prison. Okay,
that's like, that's the real rule. We'll frame each other
for treason and do all sorts of wild shit, but
at the end of the day, we pardon each other,
and whoever lies best gets to hold power for the
(32:54):
next four years. Like, I think that's how it actually works.
Its cynical and crappy, is that it is to believe.
But I can't come up with a better answer or diagnosis.
It's so confused. So who all needs to go to prison?
You ask, Well, let's listen to mister Strock as to
who was involved at.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Every step, at every investigative decision. There are multiple layers
of people above me the assistant director, executive assistant director,
deputy director, and director of the FBI, and multiple layers
of people below me, section chiefs, supervisors, unit chiefs, case agents,
and analysts, all of whom were involved in all of
these decisions.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So if you believe, as I believe, that that's what happened,
that there was an attempted coup against the incoming president
of United States, and then an attempted coup while he
was the President of United States, including impeachment and everything else,
you have to acknowledge that this is not just Barack
Obama or Hillary Clinton. This is top brass including probably
like chain of command, FBI, CIA probably. I mean, it's
(33:53):
just so vast, but it's obviously true that's what happened.
So that is the deep state. If you want to
restore faith in this system, to restore faith in this country,
you have one pathway forward, and it is incredibly arduous task.
You have to take on the people that take you
out if you get out of line. Do you have
(34:14):
the courage to do that? Well, based off of your
handling slash cover up of the Epstein case, I would
say no, you don't prove me wrong. I would love, love,
love to actually have hope that this system is reformable
through the judiciary, through the ballot box, because over the
(34:34):
past month I've been thinking about a different type of box,
and I don't like thinking about that box. So let's
not think about that box, all right, You guys enjoyed
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