July 8, 2025 • 25 mins
SHOCKING Trump-Epstein Revelations! Uncover the damning clip exposing Trump’s ties to Jeffrey Epstein, the missing jailhouse tape minute, and Pam Bondi’s stunning response. Is this the end of MAGA? Dive into the scandal rocking the nation! get cozy: https://www.mypillow.com/ promo code lockdown Check out my show over on Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/show/nUTYcMtl4yMuoKHljZWu Become a supporting member of Liberty Lockdown here!: https://libertylockdown.locals.com/ This is where I do monthly AMA's for supporting members only Super valuable stuff! Twitter: https://twitter.com/LibertyLockPod Pickup LL shirts over at https://www.toplobsta.com/products/ll-lakers?_pos=5&_sid=e7319ba4a&_ss=r&variant=40668064186434 NEW DESIGNS JUST DROPPED All links: https://www.libertylockdownpodcast.com/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/libertylockdown As always, if you leave a five star review on Apple Podcasts with your social media handle I'll read it on next weeks show (audio version only)! Love you long time Liberty Lockdown presents a variety of opinions, sometimes opposing and controversial. They are not representative of the host of the podcast. Guests are encouraged to express their opinions in a safe and equitable environment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That he did work for intelligence agency, So could you
resolve whether or not you did, and also can you
see why there was a minute missing from the jail
house team on the n side.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, sure, I'm just interested. Are you still talking about
Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You're asking we have Texas, we have this, we have
all of the things, and are people still talking about
this guy? This creep that is unbelievable. Do you want
to waste the time?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And do you feel like answering?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having
some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what
happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration. But
you go ahead.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Oh my god, Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Well, yes, actually,
mister President, we are still talking about Jeffrey Epstein. As
you guys know, I never do back to back days
with the same topic two episodes. This is unheard of.
But this is so important. And just so you know,
(01:10):
that segment I opened with is actually a shorter portion.
Pambani then gives a even crazier response. So we're gonna
break down the whole thing. I honestly believe that this
two and a half minute or so clip is the
end of Donald Trump's presidency, his legacy, MAGA, the whole thing.
It's that big. And I try not to be hyperbolic,
(01:32):
and I certainly try not to bury things before they're gone,
but this is so damning. I do not know how
you recover from it. It's so obvious to me that,
given the nature of this entire investigation, all of the
drop balls. As I said, you can check out the
episode I did half an hour on this just last
night that really goes into detail as to my conclusions
(01:54):
as and to why I got there. So now I'm
gonna do more of a macro analysis as to what
this all means. Means. Obviously, the entire country, or at
least magaworld and the libertarian world, was in uproar over
the fact that they closed the case and they said
there's no further prosecutions, no further investigations, it's over. After
(02:14):
that leaked memo was sent over to Act. This is
the first time Trump has addressed it, and he addressed
it in about as foolhardy a way as I could
possibly imagine. You're already dealing with, you know, a dissident
voter bloc who does not respect or trust the powers
that be, and he clearly has no respect for them,
or you, or me or us. And I'm just astonished.
(02:38):
I mean, it's such a slap in the face of
his supporters. I can't believe that this is the angle
that they're going with, that we're still talking about this.
You literally just released this memo yesterday saying that the
case was closed. You think that, oh, the case is closed. Now,
We're like, no one's going to talk about it anymore.
We just all have to stuff our heads in the
(03:00):
ground and pretend as if this is justice. This is
an answer. You have hundreds, if not thousands of victims,
none of which have really gotten justice when it comes
to the perpetrators. Other than I've seen in Maxwell, you
have all of the co conspirators and perpetrators that are
not getting any justice. They're not being prosecuted, apparently they're
(03:20):
not even being investigated, and you expect us to just
move along. Nothing to see here, It's not going to happen.
This is as big an ask as kind of like
the lockdown, operation warp speed trust the science, like it's insulting,
it's insulting to our intelligence. And I just don't think
that this movement, this hodge Podge coalition of Maha Maga libertarians,
(03:46):
is going to permit this. I do not see how
you recover from this. And I'm telling you the responses
I'm seeing already from die hard three time Trump voters
is fury. Do not blame them. I'm only a one
time Trump voter, and I am equally furious. I can't
believe this is happening. So let's go through the full
(04:07):
long version interview that just happened a few hours ago,
and it is terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Let's some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is
whether he ever worked for American or foreign intelligence agency.
Alex Costa, he allegedly said that he did work for
intelligence agency, So can you resolve whether or not keep did?
And also can you sing why there was a minute
missing from the jail house tea? So yeah, sure, So.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
The audio from the journalist is a little bit low,
So I just want to make sure you guys heard this.
He's asking if Epstein was connected to intelligence and why
there was a minute missing from the jailhouse hallway surveillance
footage that was released late yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas, we
have this, we have all of the things that and
are people still talking about this guy? This creep that
is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I just want to pause it. Marco Rubio sitting in
the middle, there is like, oh, there's no smiling, there's
no nodding, there's no laughing. Pambondi is at least trying
to play along. She smiles. When the President interjects and says,
I can I say something real quick? She's like, sure,
mister President, please bail me the fuck out. Marco Rubio's like,
(05:25):
we're toast. There is no way the public is going
to buy this.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Do you want to waste the time and it? Do
you feel like answer?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question at
Epstein at a time like this where we're having some
of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened
in Texas.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
It just seems just consider the audacity of this position,
this framing that he's taking at a time like this,
there is there a time when it is permitted for
us to say, hey, there was a trafficking ring of
kids to the rich and powerful in politics and the
royal family and corporate America and the technocrats all across
(06:08):
the board. And basically, you guys came out just yesterday,
literally just yesterday, and you said, there's no one else
to prosecute. Case closed. When should we ask these questions? Oh, well,
we got flooding in Texas, so we can't ask it. Okay,
Well that's tragic. Still not the point. When are we
supposed to ask? Is there ever a news cycle in
(06:29):
which we could actually ask these extraordinarily important questions? And
by the way, the nature of our inquisition is, hey,
we think, because there's lots of evidence to say that
this is what happened, that Epstein was running a massive
blackmail operation to build sexual compromis on politicians, which, by
the way, you had a relationship with him for years,
(06:52):
all through the nineties into the two thousands. You think
that it's fair that we go, hey, who did he
traffic to and why have none of them gone to prison? Forever.
You can't ask that.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Question like in desecration, but you go ahead, sure, sure,
First to back up on that in February, I just.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Another quick pause. No, mister President, us asking these questions
is not a desecration. You ignoring our questions is the
desecration of the victims.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Interview on Fox and it's been getting a lot of
attention because I said, I.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, that interview on Fox has been getting a lot
of attention. That's literally all you've done, Pam. That's all
you've done for five months straight, now six months straight.
That's what your job is. You go on Fox News
and you lie to us. So, yeah, the interview on Fox, Yes,
it's getting a lot of attention. That's all you've done.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
To ask a question about the client list, and my
response was it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed,
meaning the file along with VJFK MLK files as well.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's what I meant by that.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Also, you gotta be kidding me. She has asked explicitly
do you have the Epstein list, and she says, yes,
it's sitting on my desk for review. So she's now
reframing this saying I wasn't talking about the list. I
was saying the file along with the RFK files and
the JFK file. The files were on my desk. I
(08:23):
was reviewing those. I didn't have the Epstein list because
the Epstein list doesn't exist. What a remarkable reframe of
this obvious.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Lie to the tens of thousands of video They turned
out to be choldforn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein
chop pose it.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Okay, so you're now totally reformulating this because what we've
heard forever is that Epstein was recording himself and obviously
his co conspirators, the other John's, that he was blackmailing.
So you're now saying, no, no, no, that's not what happened.
In fact, he was just down child, that's what you're
going with. So he's not even were there any victims?
(09:05):
Are we pretending that he did not actually do this
at all? He's just a creep that downloaded stuff on
the internet. Really, I mean, am I hearing her wrong?
That's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
A porn is what they were never going to be released,
never going to see the lighted day.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
We're not asking for them to be released Nobody wants
to watch that. That's not the ask. It's like you're
straw manning the questions. Why. Well, the obvious answer is
because you're lying. No one wants to see the footage
of Bill Gates or Bill Clinton, or Trump or anybody
else doing anything with a minor. That's not what we're asking.
(09:47):
What we're asking for is fucking prosecutions.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
To him being an agent. I have no knowledge about that.
We can get back to you on that.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Oh, you have no knowledge on that. It's been six
years since he perished in his jail. Cell I'll just
leave it at that because we don't know what happened
to him, right, and you don't have an answer, you'll
get back to us on it when well, the answer
is obvious to anyone with a pulse and a brain.
He was attached to intelligence. That's the whole reason that
(10:18):
the journalists asked the questions, because alex Acosta said as much, and.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
The minute missing from the video. We released the video
showing definitively the video was not conclusive, but the evidence
prior to it was showing he committed suicide.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And wait what the video it showed definitively, but it
was not conclusive, but it did show that he committed.
Come on, what are you even trying to say? And
you won't even believe her excuse for why there's a
minute missing from the video.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
What we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year,
every night they redo that video as old from like
night ninety nine, So every night the video is reset
and every night should have the same minute missing. So
we're looking for that video to release that as well,
showing that a minute is missing.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Every I look, you can't do this. No one's going
to accept this. No one, even cat Turn has to
be going, dude, I can't fucking I can't cover for this.
What am I going to How am I possibly going
to cover for this? Marco Rubio is just like I
thought I was going to be the president in twenty
eight It's over. It's fucking over. This dumb bimbo is
(11:34):
lying so blatantly and aggressively. No one's ever going to
trust us again. And he's right, no one will or
should trust you ever again. Her argument is that they
have a you know, it's a nineteen ninety nine I
guess VHS that's just being cycled daily and there's a
missing minute every day in a top like top security,
(11:58):
top clearance prison. That's that's that's what our tax money
goes to, is so that you guys could have a
missing minute every fucking day. Oh and by the way,
you also told us for six years that there was
no footage none, and then suddenly it appears and there's
a missing minute. And oh, might I add the footage
(12:20):
doesn't even show Epstein's cell. It shows like the very
edge of the hallway of the door that he may
have been in. We don't know anything. We don't even
know if this footage is real. And even with this
footage that I don't trust the veracity of, you still
have a missing minute. But it's conclusive, right, Pam, Open
and shut Kate. This is insane. So now the five
(12:42):
dcope that I'm seeing is that they're saying, well, you know,
Trump's not basically, they're shut in the case. But the
reason that they're doing that is so that they can
use this evidence to go after the traffickers, because now
they've got the compromut files on all of the you know,
famous people that were involved, but they also have the
information on the traffickers. And isn't it more important than
(13:04):
getting justice for the former victims to prevent future victim
This is no bullshit the five D chess answer that
people are giving that that's what they're doing. Is there
any evidence for that? Zero. The other angle that I've
seen PbD and others float is that Judge Joe Brown
on Alex Jones yesterday, they're saying, well, now Donald Trump
(13:26):
is using this blackmail to help usher in the America
First MAGA agenda. What evidence is there that he's doing that. Well,
let's see, he's given additional aid to Israel. He just
announced that they will be sending more aid and more
munitions to Ukraine in a proxy war against the largest
(13:47):
nuclear power on Earth, Russia. Cool. He's floated the idea
of amnesty. Even though he walked back earlier. Today, they're
still talking about basically keeping anybody who's working the fields
or working in hotels and that industry, they're all allowed
to stay. So he's doing that. We've also increased the
debt ceiling by five trillion dollars, you've increased spending by
(14:08):
three plus trillion dollars. What is he using this leverage for?
Show me evidence? That is the swamp bowing to Donald Trump.
Are they all doing his bidding? Have we ended the wars?
Have we brought the troops home? Is there mass deportations
happening that I'm missing?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
What is it? So?
Speaker 5 (14:25):
The five D chess argument is that he is not
going to prosecute a bunch of child abusers so that
we can give more money to Ukraine and Israel. That's
the argument, A bad deal. I'm out. We're on shark tanks.
I'd be like mister Waterfo would be like, honestly, I'm
insulted by your proposal. You need to get the fuck
(14:47):
out of my face, get out of the studio. Actually,
we're done. That's how I feel. I'm out. I'm out. Okay.
I think there's got to be anybody who's paying attention.
There's got to be millions of people in this country
who are watching this cli and just saying I'm done.
I am done. I'm out. I'm embarrassed that I ever
even thought you guys might deliver. I mean, I didn't
(15:09):
think it was likely, but I thought like there was
a chance. Boy was I wrong? Boy? Was I wrong?
There is no evidence that you're using this for good either,
zero what it looks like. And I think anybody who's
thinking about this rationally or honestly, what it looks like
is that y'all are blackmailed. That's what it looks like.
(15:32):
You remember when just a week or so ago and
Donald Trump screamed at a reporter saying, they don't know
what the fuck they're doing, when he was talking about
Iran and Israel, how they've been fighting forever. They don't
know what they're doing. And he was furious with Israel,
furious with Nannyahoo because he called them when there was
supposed to be a ceasefire and he said, turn your
fucking planes around, there's a ceasefire. And then Yahoo told Trump,
(15:56):
the president of the United States allegedly can't do it,
and they went and they bombed anyways. And then Trump
sees that journalist and he's asked about it, and he goes,
they don't know what the fucking He is pissed. He's pissed.
Less than twenty four hours later, he's posted on true
social going, drop the charges against this great hero bb
(16:16):
net and Yahoo, who is ultimately, you know, waging these
wars of freedom and liberation for the West, and blah
blah blah blah blah and then if you think, oh
well that's just a one off, he did it the
next day too. He is at the mercy of Netan Yahoo.
In my opinion, that's what it looks like. Sorry, you
go down the evidence of Kershner, you know, his his
(16:38):
son in law, his relationship with thet Yaho, the fact
that he would come and he would sleep in his bed,
he's his godfather, and all this crazy connections. You can
go down to all the evidence, but just just look
at the actions. None of this makes sense. What they're
doing to Gaza is atrocious. What they're doing with the
Epstein list is atrocious. What is the tie that binds Israel? Ah?
(17:00):
I'm just calling it like I see it. Okay, that's
what I see happening. Does it make me happy?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Does it mean that I hate a collective identity group? Also? No,
not even slightly. I'm just saying, that's what this looks like.
Give me a better rational explanation to the abuse that
we're receiving, because I can't come up with one, and
I'm being one hundred percent honest, I wish I could
come up with a better alternative thesis or hypothesis here,
(17:29):
I cannot, and I would be lying to you if
I said that I could, so I won't lie. That's
what it looks like, looks like Donald Trump and this administration.
And I include in that Cash Betel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi,
a whole bunch of others. Rubio for sure are compromised.
They're compromised, and they're compromised not by our intelligence agencies,
(17:53):
though they probably are that too, but they are all
clearly kneeling for a country that is not our on
If that doesn't bother you, why why doesn't it bother you?
Can you not see what I see? A sincere question. Look,
I don't want to be accused of the things that
come with saying what I'm saying right now. It doesn't
(18:14):
feel good. I don't feel good saying it, but I
have to be honest. I have to tell the truth,
and that's all I'm doing. What else is the answer?
I don't have one. So that's the answer. I will
reevaluate if the information changes, But as of now, I'm out,
and I think that a lot of people are going
(18:35):
to feel the same way, and I don't blame them. Look,
I don't know what the answer is going to be.
Moving forward. I don't know if the Libertarian Party will
get their shit together. They don't seem to have any
interest in appealing to people who are concerned about the
border issue. They're still flipping out about ice, and they
want to have fucking as many illegals coming as humanly possible,
so they're probably a dead end. The America Party is
(18:56):
more about h one B's than it is about actually
restoring American values either, so probably not gonna happen there, which,
by the way, Elon replied to me this morning with this,
and uh, I don't I don't know. I don't know
what the path way forward is. Like I'll just be honest, Like,
what I would like to see is a America First Party.
(19:16):
I would like to see a party that actually represents America,
Americans and our interests, non interventionists, anti war, pro freedom,
pro gun rights, pro borders party. Like, That's that's what
I'm into at this point. That's what I'm looking for,
I should say. And it doesn't seem like there's a
real option for it. And honestly, even if there was,
(19:40):
is it gonna be viable? Probably not. And even if
it was viable, can you actually change this behemoth because
like I met a lot of these people, met Kennedy,
I opened for Donald Trump a year ago, debated for Bake.
I shared the stage with Cash Betel, the head of
(20:01):
the FBI. I've talked to him at length. I thought
that these people were at least somewhat honest or at
least somewhat for real. They're not. And I don't know
that anybody can withstand the pressure that comes with whatever
threats come when you try and do the right thing.
And I think that's what we're looking at. So as
angry as I am, I still have some sympathy. I'm
(20:23):
still like, I just can't imagine the pressure that they're
dealing with and the threats, Like I have to believe
that there's threats not just against them, because I think,
you know, maybe I'm totally wrong, but I think that
a guy like Dan Bongino, if the threats were just
against him, he probably says fuck you and he just
forges ahead. I could be wrong, but maybe I'm projecting
(20:45):
my own character onto him. But if they said to me, Clint, look,
I know you want to do the right thing, not
going to have your wife, your kids, your mother, your father,
your grandfather, your cousins, your nieces, your nephews. No, they
don't exist if you proceed down this path. And I
think you're gonna need someone who just says I'm gonna
(21:06):
call your bluff and forge ahead anyways, because I think
that the existence of this system is such an existential
threat to all of those people that you just threatened
explicitly that I'm gonna forge ahead. I'm gonna do the
right thing. I'm gonna stand up regardless. Dan Bongino and
Cash Betel aren't those guys. Donald Trump is not that guy.
That's just the truth. Hate to break it to you.
I hate to have come to this conclusion myself. That's
(21:28):
where we're at. So drop a comment down below, hate
the like button, subscribe, share this around, Tell me why
I'm wrong, tell me why I'm a panickin, Tell me
why I'm I should give them more time. I'll trust
the plan. Justice is coming? Right? How many times must
I hear that justice isn't coming? Justice is not coming?
(21:51):
So we need a plan B. We've got to go
back to the drawing board, think this through again, and
hopefully not get fooled in the future. However, we pull
that off, I'm not really certain at this point, but
Jesus H Holy Hell, I am so disappointed, and perhaps
(22:13):
that's on me. I had some hope. It's crazy that
like that's looked down on by people, like you thought
that something good might happen. Yeah, I thought something good
might happen. I was wrong. We bombed Iran. There's still
unbelievable devastation happening in Israel. We're now giving more munitions
to continue this fight in Ukraine against Russia. And uh,
(22:38):
we're getting no COVID justice. We're getting no fauci investigations
or prosecutions. We're getting no vast deportations and none of it.
Like I'm struggling. Like they stripped out very minor reforms
to gun control laws out of the big beautiful bill too,
Like the gun community is also out. So I think
you got the two way community out. I think you
(22:59):
had a lot of hope with RFK Junior being the
head of HHS and his primary focus in the first
couple of months was like we got a you know,
the biggest public health crisis. Obviously, after we had lockdowns
and mandates of poison, They're like, no, the biggest threat
according to Kennedy, but he got to get at the
Semitism offl College camp is like, dude, really, so MAHA's
(23:23):
gotta be pissed for sure. They still haven't even pulled
the mandates as far as I know, or not the mandates,
but having it on the schedule for kids. The BAK
bailed after the December H one B debacle. Elon's not
now out. BBB doesn't do the Doge cuts, Israel war,
Ukraine war continues, no mass deportations, five trillion, so like
(23:45):
the fiscal conservatives are furious, five trillion raise of the
debt ceiling, three jillion additional spending. Uh So, I look,
we got Russ all bricked out. That's it. I'm Matt
Ross and he's a very nice guy and I love
his money. So look, I'm not saying there was no good.
That was great, but lord lord, that's it. That's for
(24:07):
real it man, all right, I'm gonna shut up now.
Oh I hope to have better news anyways, real quick,
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But as you guys know, after the I gave a
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the explanation. Everything fell apart with the old crew, and
(24:30):
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a comment. Bye,
That he did work for intelligence agency, So could you
resolve whether or not you did, and also can you
see why there was a minute missing from the jail
house team on the n side.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, sure, I'm just interested. Are you still talking about
Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
You're asking we have Texas, we have this, we have
all of the things, and are people still talking about
this guy? This creep that is unbelievable. Do you want
to waste the time?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
And do you feel like answering?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question on
at Epstein at a time like this where we're having
some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what
happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration. But
you go ahead.
Speaker 5 (00:48):
Oh my god, Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Well, yes, actually,
mister President, we are still talking about Jeffrey Epstein. As
you guys know, I never do back to back days
with the same topic two episodes. This is unheard of.
But this is so important. And just so you know,
(01:10):
that segment I opened with is actually a shorter portion.
Pambani then gives a even crazier response. So we're gonna
break down the whole thing. I honestly believe that this
two and a half minute or so clip is the
end of Donald Trump's presidency, his legacy, MAGA, the whole thing.
It's that big. And I try not to be hyperbolic,
(01:32):
and I certainly try not to bury things before they're gone,
but this is so damning. I do not know how
you recover from it. It's so obvious to me that,
given the nature of this entire investigation, all of the
drop balls. As I said, you can check out the
episode I did half an hour on this just last
night that really goes into detail as to my conclusions
(01:54):
as and to why I got there. So now I'm
gonna do more of a macro analysis as to what
this all means. Means. Obviously, the entire country, or at
least magaworld and the libertarian world, was in uproar over
the fact that they closed the case and they said
there's no further prosecutions, no further investigations, it's over. After
(02:14):
that leaked memo was sent over to Act. This is
the first time Trump has addressed it, and he addressed
it in about as foolhardy a way as I could
possibly imagine. You're already dealing with, you know, a dissident
voter bloc who does not respect or trust the powers
that be, and he clearly has no respect for them,
or you, or me or us. And I'm just astonished.
(02:38):
I mean, it's such a slap in the face of
his supporters. I can't believe that this is the angle
that they're going with, that we're still talking about this.
You literally just released this memo yesterday saying that the
case was closed. You think that, oh, the case is closed. Now,
We're like, no one's going to talk about it anymore.
We just all have to stuff our heads in the
(03:00):
ground and pretend as if this is justice. This is
an answer. You have hundreds, if not thousands of victims,
none of which have really gotten justice when it comes
to the perpetrators. Other than I've seen in Maxwell, you
have all of the co conspirators and perpetrators that are
not getting any justice. They're not being prosecuted, apparently they're
(03:20):
not even being investigated, and you expect us to just
move along. Nothing to see here, It's not going to happen.
This is as big an ask as kind of like
the lockdown, operation warp speed trust the science, like it's insulting,
it's insulting to our intelligence. And I just don't think
that this movement, this hodge Podge coalition of Maha Maga libertarians,
(03:46):
is going to permit this. I do not see how
you recover from this. And I'm telling you the responses
I'm seeing already from die hard three time Trump voters
is fury. Do not blame them. I'm only a one
time Trump voter, and I am equally furious. I can't
believe this is happening. So let's go through the full
(04:07):
long version interview that just happened a few hours ago,
and it is terrible.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Let's some lingering mysteries. One of the biggest ones is
whether he ever worked for American or foreign intelligence agency.
Alex Costa, he allegedly said that he did work for
intelligence agency, So can you resolve whether or not keep did?
And also can you sing why there was a minute
missing from the jail house tea? So yeah, sure, So.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
The audio from the journalist is a little bit low,
So I just want to make sure you guys heard this.
He's asking if Epstein was connected to intelligence and why
there was a minute missing from the jailhouse hallway surveillance
footage that was released late yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been
talked about for years. You're asking we have Texas, we
have this, we have all of the things that and
are people still talking about this guy? This creep that
is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I just want to pause it. Marco Rubio sitting in
the middle, there is like, oh, there's no smiling, there's
no nodding, there's no laughing. Pambondi is at least trying
to play along. She smiles. When the President interjects and says,
I can I say something real quick? She's like, sure,
mister President, please bail me the fuck out. Marco Rubio's like,
(05:25):
we're toast. There is no way the public is going
to buy this.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Do you want to waste the time and it? Do
you feel like answer?
Speaker 4 (05:33):
I don't mind answering.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question at
Epstein at a time like this where we're having some
of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened
in Texas.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
It just seems just consider the audacity of this position,
this framing that he's taking at a time like this,
there is there a time when it is permitted for
us to say, hey, there was a trafficking ring of
kids to the rich and powerful in politics and the
royal family and corporate America and the technocrats all across
(06:08):
the board. And basically, you guys came out just yesterday,
literally just yesterday, and you said, there's no one else
to prosecute. Case closed. When should we ask these questions? Oh, well,
we got flooding in Texas, so we can't ask it. Okay,
Well that's tragic. Still not the point. When are we
supposed to ask? Is there ever a news cycle in
(06:29):
which we could actually ask these extraordinarily important questions? And
by the way, the nature of our inquisition is, hey,
we think, because there's lots of evidence to say that
this is what happened, that Epstein was running a massive
blackmail operation to build sexual compromis on politicians, which, by
the way, you had a relationship with him for years,
(06:52):
all through the nineties into the two thousands. You think
that it's fair that we go, hey, who did he
traffic to and why have none of them gone to prison? Forever.
You can't ask that.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Question like in desecration, but you go ahead, sure, sure,
First to back up on that in February, I just.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Another quick pause. No, mister President, us asking these questions
is not a desecration. You ignoring our questions is the
desecration of the victims.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Interview on Fox and it's been getting a lot of
attention because I said, I.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, that interview on Fox has been getting a lot
of attention. That's literally all you've done, Pam. That's all
you've done for five months straight, now six months straight.
That's what your job is. You go on Fox News
and you lie to us. So, yeah, the interview on Fox, Yes,
it's getting a lot of attention. That's all you've done.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
To ask a question about the client list, and my
response was it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed,
meaning the file along with VJFK MLK files as well.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
That's what I meant by that.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Also, you gotta be kidding me. She has asked explicitly
do you have the Epstein list, and she says, yes,
it's sitting on my desk for review. So she's now
reframing this saying I wasn't talking about the list. I
was saying the file along with the RFK files and
the JFK file. The files were on my desk. I
(08:23):
was reviewing those. I didn't have the Epstein list because
the Epstein list doesn't exist. What a remarkable reframe of
this obvious.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Lie to the tens of thousands of video They turned
out to be choldforn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein
chop pose it.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Okay, so you're now totally reformulating this because what we've
heard forever is that Epstein was recording himself and obviously
his co conspirators, the other John's, that he was blackmailing.
So you're now saying, no, no, no, that's not what happened.
In fact, he was just down child, that's what you're
going with. So he's not even were there any victims?
(09:05):
Are we pretending that he did not actually do this
at all? He's just a creep that downloaded stuff on
the internet. Really, I mean, am I hearing her wrong?
That's what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
A porn is what they were never going to be released,
never going to see the lighted day.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
We're not asking for them to be released Nobody wants
to watch that. That's not the ask. It's like you're
straw manning the questions. Why. Well, the obvious answer is
because you're lying. No one wants to see the footage
of Bill Gates or Bill Clinton, or Trump or anybody
else doing anything with a minor. That's not what we're asking.
(09:47):
What we're asking for is fucking prosecutions.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
To him being an agent. I have no knowledge about that.
We can get back to you on that.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Oh, you have no knowledge on that. It's been six
years since he perished in his jail. Cell I'll just
leave it at that because we don't know what happened
to him, right, and you don't have an answer, you'll
get back to us on it when well, the answer
is obvious to anyone with a pulse and a brain.
He was attached to intelligence. That's the whole reason that
(10:18):
the journalists asked the questions, because alex Acosta said as much, and.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
The minute missing from the video. We released the video
showing definitively the video was not conclusive, but the evidence
prior to it was showing he committed suicide.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
And wait what the video it showed definitively, but it
was not conclusive, but it did show that he committed.
Come on, what are you even trying to say? And
you won't even believe her excuse for why there's a
minute missing from the video.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
What we learned from Bureau of Prisons was every year,
every night they redo that video as old from like
night ninety nine, So every night the video is reset
and every night should have the same minute missing. So
we're looking for that video to release that as well,
showing that a minute is missing.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Every I look, you can't do this. No one's going
to accept this. No one, even cat Turn has to
be going, dude, I can't fucking I can't cover for this.
What am I going to How am I possibly going
to cover for this? Marco Rubio is just like I
thought I was going to be the president in twenty
eight It's over. It's fucking over. This dumb bimbo is
(11:34):
lying so blatantly and aggressively. No one's ever going to
trust us again. And he's right, no one will or
should trust you ever again. Her argument is that they
have a you know, it's a nineteen ninety nine I
guess VHS that's just being cycled daily and there's a
missing minute every day in a top like top security,
(11:58):
top clearance prison. That's that's that's what our tax money
goes to, is so that you guys could have a
missing minute every fucking day. Oh and by the way,
you also told us for six years that there was
no footage none, and then suddenly it appears and there's
a missing minute. And oh, might I add the footage
(12:20):
doesn't even show Epstein's cell. It shows like the very
edge of the hallway of the door that he may
have been in. We don't know anything. We don't even
know if this footage is real. And even with this
footage that I don't trust the veracity of, you still
have a missing minute. But it's conclusive, right, Pam, Open
and shut Kate. This is insane. So now the five
(12:42):
dcope that I'm seeing is that they're saying, well, you know,
Trump's not basically, they're shut in the case. But the
reason that they're doing that is so that they can
use this evidence to go after the traffickers, because now
they've got the compromut files on all of the you know,
famous people that were involved, but they also have the
information on the traffickers. And isn't it more important than
(13:04):
getting justice for the former victims to prevent future victim
This is no bullshit the five D chess answer that
people are giving that that's what they're doing. Is there
any evidence for that? Zero. The other angle that I've
seen PbD and others float is that Judge Joe Brown
on Alex Jones yesterday, they're saying, well, now Donald Trump
(13:26):
is using this blackmail to help usher in the America
First MAGA agenda. What evidence is there that he's doing that. Well,
let's see, he's given additional aid to Israel. He just
announced that they will be sending more aid and more
munitions to Ukraine in a proxy war against the largest
(13:47):
nuclear power on Earth, Russia. Cool. He's floated the idea
of amnesty. Even though he walked back earlier. Today, they're
still talking about basically keeping anybody who's working the fields
or working in hotels and that industry, they're all allowed
to stay. So he's doing that. We've also increased the
debt ceiling by five trillion dollars, you've increased spending by
(14:08):
three plus trillion dollars. What is he using this leverage for?
Show me evidence? That is the swamp bowing to Donald Trump.
Are they all doing his bidding? Have we ended the wars?
Have we brought the troops home? Is there mass deportations
happening that I'm missing?
Speaker 4 (14:23):
What is it? So?
Speaker 5 (14:25):
The five D chess argument is that he is not
going to prosecute a bunch of child abusers so that
we can give more money to Ukraine and Israel. That's
the argument, A bad deal. I'm out. We're on shark tanks.
I'd be like mister Waterfo would be like, honestly, I'm
insulted by your proposal. You need to get the fuck
(14:47):
out of my face, get out of the studio. Actually,
we're done. That's how I feel. I'm out. I'm out. Okay.
I think there's got to be anybody who's paying attention.
There's got to be millions of people in this country
who are watching this cli and just saying I'm done.
I am done. I'm out. I'm embarrassed that I ever
even thought you guys might deliver. I mean, I didn't
(15:09):
think it was likely, but I thought like there was
a chance. Boy was I wrong? Boy? Was I wrong?
There is no evidence that you're using this for good either,
zero what it looks like. And I think anybody who's
thinking about this rationally or honestly, what it looks like
is that y'all are blackmailed. That's what it looks like.
(15:32):
You remember when just a week or so ago and
Donald Trump screamed at a reporter saying, they don't know
what the fuck they're doing, when he was talking about
Iran and Israel, how they've been fighting forever. They don't
know what they're doing. And he was furious with Israel,
furious with Nannyahoo because he called them when there was
supposed to be a ceasefire and he said, turn your
fucking planes around, there's a ceasefire. And then Yahoo told Trump,
(15:56):
the president of the United States allegedly can't do it,
and they went and they bombed anyways. And then Trump
sees that journalist and he's asked about it, and he goes,
they don't know what the fucking He is pissed. He's pissed.
Less than twenty four hours later, he's posted on true
social going, drop the charges against this great hero bb
(16:16):
net and Yahoo, who is ultimately, you know, waging these
wars of freedom and liberation for the West, and blah
blah blah blah blah and then if you think, oh
well that's just a one off, he did it the
next day too. He is at the mercy of Netan Yahoo.
In my opinion, that's what it looks like. Sorry, you
go down the evidence of Kershner, you know, his his
(16:38):
son in law, his relationship with thet Yaho, the fact
that he would come and he would sleep in his bed,
he's his godfather, and all this crazy connections. You can
go down to all the evidence, but just just look
at the actions. None of this makes sense. What they're
doing to Gaza is atrocious. What they're doing with the
Epstein list is atrocious. What is the tie that binds Israel? Ah?
(17:00):
I'm just calling it like I see it. Okay, that's
what I see happening. Does it make me happy?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Does it mean that I hate a collective identity group? Also? No,
not even slightly. I'm just saying, that's what this looks like.
Give me a better rational explanation to the abuse that
we're receiving, because I can't come up with one, and
I'm being one hundred percent honest, I wish I could
come up with a better alternative thesis or hypothesis here,
(17:29):
I cannot, and I would be lying to you if
I said that I could, so I won't lie. That's
what it looks like, looks like Donald Trump and this administration.
And I include in that Cash Betel, Dan Bongino, Pam Bondi,
a whole bunch of others. Rubio for sure are compromised.
They're compromised, and they're compromised not by our intelligence agencies,
(17:53):
though they probably are that too, but they are all
clearly kneeling for a country that is not our on
If that doesn't bother you, why why doesn't it bother you?
Can you not see what I see? A sincere question. Look,
I don't want to be accused of the things that
come with saying what I'm saying right now. It doesn't
(18:14):
feel good. I don't feel good saying it, but I
have to be honest. I have to tell the truth,
and that's all I'm doing. What else is the answer?
I don't have one. So that's the answer. I will
reevaluate if the information changes, But as of now, I'm out,
and I think that a lot of people are going
(18:35):
to feel the same way, and I don't blame them. Look,
I don't know what the answer is going to be.
Moving forward. I don't know if the Libertarian Party will
get their shit together. They don't seem to have any
interest in appealing to people who are concerned about the
border issue. They're still flipping out about ice, and they
want to have fucking as many illegals coming as humanly possible,
so they're probably a dead end. The America Party is
(18:56):
more about h one B's than it is about actually
restoring American values either, so probably not gonna happen there, which,
by the way, Elon replied to me this morning with this,
and uh, I don't I don't know. I don't know
what the path way forward is. Like I'll just be honest, Like,
what I would like to see is a America First Party.
(19:16):
I would like to see a party that actually represents America,
Americans and our interests, non interventionists, anti war, pro freedom,
pro gun rights, pro borders party. Like, That's that's what
I'm into at this point. That's what I'm looking for,
I should say. And it doesn't seem like there's a
real option for it. And honestly, even if there was,
(19:40):
is it gonna be viable? Probably not. And even if
it was viable, can you actually change this behemoth because
like I met a lot of these people, met Kennedy,
I opened for Donald Trump a year ago, debated for Bake.
I shared the stage with Cash Betel, the head of
(20:01):
the FBI. I've talked to him at length. I thought
that these people were at least somewhat honest or at
least somewhat for real. They're not. And I don't know
that anybody can withstand the pressure that comes with whatever
threats come when you try and do the right thing.
And I think that's what we're looking at. So as
angry as I am, I still have some sympathy. I'm
(20:23):
still like, I just can't imagine the pressure that they're
dealing with and the threats, Like I have to believe
that there's threats not just against them, because I think,
you know, maybe I'm totally wrong, but I think that
a guy like Dan Bongino, if the threats were just
against him, he probably says fuck you and he just
forges ahead. I could be wrong, but maybe I'm projecting
(20:45):
my own character onto him. But if they said to me, Clint, look,
I know you want to do the right thing, not
going to have your wife, your kids, your mother, your father,
your grandfather, your cousins, your nieces, your nephews. No, they
don't exist if you proceed down this path. And I
think you're gonna need someone who just says I'm gonna
(21:06):
call your bluff and forge ahead anyways, because I think
that the existence of this system is such an existential
threat to all of those people that you just threatened
explicitly that I'm gonna forge ahead. I'm gonna do the
right thing. I'm gonna stand up regardless. Dan Bongino and
Cash Betel aren't those guys. Donald Trump is not that guy.
That's just the truth. Hate to break it to you.
I hate to have come to this conclusion myself. That's
(21:28):
where we're at. So drop a comment down below, hate
the like button, subscribe, share this around, Tell me why
I'm wrong, tell me why I'm a panickin, Tell me
why I'm I should give them more time. I'll trust
the plan. Justice is coming? Right? How many times must
I hear that justice isn't coming? Justice is not coming?
(21:51):
So we need a plan B. We've got to go
back to the drawing board, think this through again, and
hopefully not get fooled in the future. However, we pull
that off, I'm not really certain at this point, but
Jesus H Holy Hell, I am so disappointed, and perhaps
(22:13):
that's on me. I had some hope. It's crazy that
like that's looked down on by people, like you thought
that something good might happen. Yeah, I thought something good
might happen. I was wrong. We bombed Iran. There's still
unbelievable devastation happening in Israel. We're now giving more munitions
to continue this fight in Ukraine against Russia. And uh,
(22:38):
we're getting no COVID justice. We're getting no fauci investigations
or prosecutions. We're getting no vast deportations and none of it.
Like I'm struggling. Like they stripped out very minor reforms
to gun control laws out of the big beautiful bill too,
Like the gun community is also out. So I think
you got the two way community out. I think you
(22:59):
had a lot of hope with RFK Junior being the
head of HHS and his primary focus in the first
couple of months was like we got a you know,
the biggest public health crisis. Obviously, after we had lockdowns
and mandates of poison, They're like, no, the biggest threat
according to Kennedy, but he got to get at the
Semitism offl College camp is like, dude, really, so MAHA's
(23:23):
gotta be pissed for sure. They still haven't even pulled
the mandates as far as I know, or not the mandates,
but having it on the schedule for kids. The BAK
bailed after the December H one B debacle. Elon's not
now out. BBB doesn't do the Doge cuts, Israel war,
Ukraine war continues, no mass deportations, five trillion, so like
(23:45):
the fiscal conservatives are furious, five trillion raise of the
debt ceiling, three jillion additional spending. Uh So, I look,
we got Russ all bricked out. That's it. I'm Matt
Ross and he's a very nice guy and I love
his money. So look, I'm not saying there was no good.
That was great, but lord lord, that's it. That's for
(24:07):
real it man, all right, I'm gonna shut up now.
Oh I hope to have better news anyways, real quick,
before I get out of here, I gotta let you
guys know I actually decided to move again. I know,
and then crazy. I was just here for two months.
But as you guys know, after the I gave a
little appendix to the episode when I had Sam Chipley
in studio. If you want to go back and watch
the explanation. Everything fell apart with the old crew, and
(24:30):
I just have no reason to be here. I'm living
in the boonies of central Florida and no reason. So
I'm moving and I will be off for a couple
of days, which is the other reason I did back
to back episodes. But I will be back at you
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