September 10, 2025 • 52 mins
On August 22nd, a horrific crime unfolded on a Charlotte, NC train, where a young Ukrainian refugee was brutally murdered in a seemingly racially motivated attack, sparking outrage and debate. This gripping episode of Liberty Lockdown dives into the tragedy, exposing failures in the justice system, the bystander effect, and media suppression that kept this story hidden for weeks. Join Clint Russell as he unpacks the raw truth behind urban violence, societal division, and the urgent need for change—don’t miss this powerful call to confront uncomfortable realities. Share, like, and subscribe to fuel the conversation on justice and humanity! SPONSOR LINK: Go to https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/ and use promo code lockdown to exit the miserable health insurance system. Check out my show over on Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/show/nUTYcMtl4yMuoKHljZWu Become a supporting member of Liberty Lockdown here!: https://libertylockdown.locals.com/ This is where I do monthly AMA's for supporting members only Super valuable stuff! Twitter: https://twitter.com/LibertyLockPod Pickup LL shirts over at https://www.toplobsta.com/products/ll-lakers?_pos=5&_sid=e7319ba4a&_ss=r&variant=40668064186434 NEW DESIGNS JUST DROPPED All links: https://www.libertylockdownpodcast.com/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/libertylockdown As always, if you leave a five star review on Apple Podcasts with your social media handle I'll read it on next weeks show (audio version only)! Love you long time Liberty Lockdown presents a variety of opinions, sometimes opposing and controversial. They are not representative of the host of the podcast. Guests are encouraged to express their opinions in a safe and equitable environment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For far too long, Americans have been forced to put
up with Democrat run cities and set loose, savage, bloodthirsty
criminals to prey on innocent people, really very very innocent people.
In every place, they control radical left judges, politicians, and activists,
and they've adopted a policy of catch and release for
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thugs and killers. In Charlotte, North Carolina, we saw the
results of these policies when a twenty three year old
woman who came here from Ukraine met her bloody end
on a public train. And here's a picture of it.
This is the picture of it. And this is a
picture of the woman, a beautiful young girl that never
(00:43):
had problems in life, with a magnificent future in this country,
and now she's dead.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
On August twenty second, Zarubska's life was taken, and it
was done in the most graphic, on video fashion you
could possibly imagine. I'm not going to show you the video.
You can find it on x if you're interested in
seeing the full thing. First off, I don't think I
could show it to you. I think this video would
be taken down. And secondarily, I'm gonna describe it in
a way that hopefully you don't have to watch it
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because I think it's important that you understand what happened.
You can take my word for it, or you can
watch it for yourself, if you have a steel will
and iron stomach and are emotionally sound, that you can
handle watching something like that. I wish that I hadn't,
but in order to speak about it intelligently, I felt
like it was necessary, so I did. Anyways. Rina Zusko
(01:29):
was a twenty three year old Ukrainian refugee. She had
arrived in twenty twenty two, right at the outset of
the war. I believe she truly fled Ukraine as a
consequence of the war between Russia and Ukraine. And she
arrived here and she lived in North Carolina, and she
worked at a pizza parlor and she got off her
shift and she got on a train to I assume
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head home, and unfortunately she never made it. So what
transpires is so that you don't have to watch it.
I'm gonna describe it as best I can. She sits
down on the train, She's still wearing her pizza parlor attire.
She's got the branding pizza parlor hat and shirt, and
she just gets on the train sits down and she's
there for a few minutes. Her assailant, a black monster,
(02:13):
is sitting right behind her. He doesn't talk to her,
she doesn't talk to him. There's no eye contact, there's
no escalation, there's no fight, there's no conversation, there's no warning,
there's no nothing. She is just sitting there on her phone.
Couldn't weigh more than a hundred pounds, little tiny thing
and harmless, utterly harmless. Out of the blue, this guy
takes out from his pocket. He's got this red hoodie on.
(02:36):
I don't know if it was in the hoodie or
in his pants, but takes out what looks like a
fold out knife and within less than two seconds, I
mean literally like blink of the eye type of attack.
There's three motions. It looks as if, honestly, it looks
more like slashing than stabbing. If you've seen the photo
and not the video, and I encourage you to just
see the photo and not the video. There's this freeze
(02:58):
frame photo that's gone very viral where she's looking up
at him and she's like like that. What you realize
if you watch the entire video, that is after the attack,
she has already been mortally wounded at least once, if
not all three of the stablished. I don't know how
bad all of them were. But she is panicked, she's horrified.
(03:19):
She is looking around to see what happened, because obviously
she was totally caught off guard, and she sees her attacker,
and that's the last face she will ever see, this
monstrosity that attacked her for apps of fucking lutely no
reason whatsoever. It's horrific. So what happens. She grabs her neck,
(03:42):
and honestly, if you just see the five to ten
second video, it looks as if you know it, maybe
it's not so bad. Within about twenty seconds, though she
has already collapsed to the ground. Within about thirty to
forty five seconds, you can already see the blood pool
that is starting to spread, and it is a fatal wound.
(04:02):
And I will say, well, I don't think that even
if you had a world class surgeon on hand, or
an EMT or a paramedic right there at the very
first attack, I don't think that her life could have
been saved. I mean, I could be wrong. That's not
my forte or my expertise. Spiny Sturge the imagination, but
the amount of blood that pours out within the first
(04:22):
ninety seconds, it does not look as if it was survivable.
It looks as if he got the carotid artery to
me as a layman, and it's just unbelievable, I mean
unbelievably tragic. I'll get into more of the you know,
callous political analysis in a second, but I just want
to say, you know, my heart goes out to her
family in Ukraine. I assume most of them still live there.
(04:45):
I don't know for sure, maybe they moved out here
with her. Regardless, unbelievable tragedy. And while President Trump said
that you know, she had never had anything wrong in life.
You know, a war refugee that gets to America and
then has this appen, and it's tragic beyondwards, especially such
a young person. I really don't have words for it.
(05:06):
It's just the loss is absolutely brutal. But I do
have words for these people. I have words for the
people on the train itself. So because it's a twenty
minute video, you get to see the full aftermath, and
what you realize is that as there's probably eight people
in this train car. It's hard to say because it's
facing from the front towards the back and or like
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kind of angled a little bit, And you can't really
tell how many people are sitting up in the front
of the train, but I think I identified approximately eight
different people aside from Arena in the footage. So first off,
what you recognize is that no one does anything for
I mean for the first literally for the first ninety seconds,
even though she is on the floor and in dire condition,
(05:50):
in need of immediate assistance. Thirty seconds in, everybody has
to be aware of that she's collapsed, So at minimum,
by forty five seconds, you have to see all of
the blood everywhere, so you know she needs immediate assistance.
I don't see anybody on their phone. I don't see
anybody calling now on one. I don't see anyone providing aid.
I don't see anyone reaching out to her trying to
(06:11):
see if she needs aid, asking her questions. Nothing. Now, granted,
she had just been attacked. This guy is obviously unhinged
and very dangerous, so I'm not expecting within the first
forty five seconds for people to be to know exactly
what happened, because it was very fast, and if you
weren't actually watching it, you probably wouldn't have known what transpired,
so I want to give some grace. However, after you
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see that there's a tremendous amount of blood. Also, the
assailant has already walked away. He's already gone to the
front of the car. I don't know if he exited,
because I only have the footage facing the rear of
the car. I don't know if he actually exited, or
if he went to another train car further up front
of the train. I'm not sure. Regardless, he's not there
and they are not assisting her. By about ninety seconds,
(06:55):
one man, God bless him, does approach her and starts to,
you know, identify the issue, and starts to try and
help her. So I want to be very clear, all
of my anger is not directed at him. He did
what he could. He actually takes off his shirt, he
tries to stop the bleeding. He is a hero, and
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he deserves whatever public applause you can give him. Honestly,
everybody else, though, for the first four minutes, does fuck all.
They do nothing. Most of them pretend as if it's
like nothing's even happened. It's truly jaw dropping to witness
and there's actually one, this black dude. He looks like
he's videoing it, and he's videoing as this other man
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is trying to save her life, and he like, it
looks as if he's videoing. I can't say definitively, but
it looks as if he's videoing her as she dies.
And then he steps over the guy who's helping her.
He kind of like, I don't know if he leaps,
but he walks over him and he leaves, and I
just I can't. I can't put myself in that mentality.
(08:04):
I can't. I don't know how you could be so callous.
I don't know how you could have so little value
for life. It's it's it's I mean, it's just unspeakably evil.
I don't. I don't know how else to describe it.
It's really mind blowing that there's such little respect for
life in that community that you would have seven other
people give or take that don't give a fuck that
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this lady is dying and they don't try and help
her at all, and it doesn't even look like they're
calling the cops. It's just it's fucking it's infuriating. There's
something about the nature of big cities that really dehumanizes people.
It makes them callous and detaches them from their fellow men,
which is ironic because you would think that if living
in the country, you would not be around so many people,
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and therefore you would be more detached from humanity. It's
actually the inverse, where the less people you have around you,
the more you care about those people, and the more
people you have around you, the less you care about them.
As if we have a threshold or a ceiling on
how much empathy we're able to offer our fellow man,
and if you have too many people around you, your
(09:09):
ceiling is already met justin saying, you know, thank you,
or opening a door for somebody, which is probably in
New York that doesn't happen very often either, I would imagine,
And I think this is where you get the entire
stereotype of the rude New Yorker. Is that just so
competitive and people are so detached from one another that
they end up being assholes. And I guess that's how
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you have to beat to survive in the big city.
At least that's the argument that they make to justify
that behavior. Regardless, it's a problem. It's a real problem. Now,
a lot of people are making this connection, and I
think their right to do so to Daniel Penny. That
Daniel Penny tried to restrain yet another black guy who
was out of his mind and arguably very dangerous. It's
(09:54):
hard to say for sure whether or not he would
have done anything. No one will ever know, but he
had to attacked people pass he did have charges, so
he had the capacity for sure. Anyways, Daniel Penny was
arrested and he was facing the rest of his life
in jail. So if you're a bystander on a train
and you see a violent action or someone who looks
to be violent, you're not going to intervene. So I
(10:15):
can understand that rationale. I could understand if you see
someone who's dangerous, who hasn't actually attacked anybody, not doing anything.
What I can't understand is when the assailant is gone,
that you still demonstrate zero concern for your fellow man,
Like what has happened to you? What has happened to
your soul? What has happened to your humanity? That you
(10:38):
could allow for this little, tiny, twenty three year old
girl to expire in front of your eyes and you
do nothing I mean, as I said, I don't think
that her life was salvageable. Tragically, I don't think that
you could have had you given the best aid in
the first forty five seconds, I don't think that you
could have saved her regardless, just the humanity to try,
(11:01):
or the humanity to comfort her, to be the last
she saw aside from her murderer, to show kindness and
love in those final moments. I just think that's the
least that could have been asked of you, And especially
given that the guy was gone at that point, even
if she's already you know, fainted and she's unconscious, you
could at least be there for her or try, And
(11:22):
no one did other than that one man, And it's just,
oh god. Now, this is a well known phenomenon. It's
called the bystander effect or diffusion of responsibility. So this
is a well known thing that sociologists have studied, and
this is what happens. There's always this assumption that someone
else will do something. So if there's all these other
people around, someone's going to assist her. So the fact
(11:44):
that that one guy did ninety seconds after she's already
on the ground, I guess I don't have to do anything. Well,
that's kind of a scientific explanation for why people behave
the way they do, but it's still not a moral justification.
It's not a moral action to see your fellow man
in need, in such grave need, and to do nothing,
to step over the guy that's actually assisting her, to
(12:06):
go do whatever you're going to do next. And I
think you know, on a macro level, what we're seeing
is this is byproduct of a civilization that no longer
cares for one another because we don't see ourselves as
a people, We don't have the roots that bind us
together in a way that makes us care for our
fellow men. And it's not as if you can't care
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for all people regardless of some sort of national pride.
But the way human beings function, broadly speaking, is that
if there's too many people around, you just don't have.
As I said earlier, there's kind of a ceiling on
how much empathy you can have for people, So therefore
you become very callous. So what breaks through that callousness, Well,
in my opinion, it's oftentimes seeing each other as kin,
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you know, kinfolk that oftentimes comes along with national pride
regardless of skin color. That's what made America very unique
is that we could still see our fellow men in
America as an American, regardless of skin, or religion or
any of that. As a consequence of the critical theory
deluge over the past two decades that happened through academia
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and then trickled into the media space and then to
Hollywood and basically became all encompassing. What I think happened
is that more and more we were divided on race,
on skin color, and all of this was done under
the pretext or the guise of trying to address racial injustice.
But what they really did is they gave everyone racial
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consciousness again. Because only speaking for myself and most of
the white people that I knew, racial consciousness had essentially
been obliterated. There was no concern of what someone looked like.
If you saw someone that was obviously mortally wounded, you
would go to their aid. If you see a car crash,
you would stop and try and help, Like this is
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just naturally what you would do. I mean not everybody,
but a lot of people would because you viewed them
as your fellow countrymen, your fellow you know, your fellow man,
and that has been lost. And look, no one's going
to want to make this point, but you have to
make it. Almost everybody on that train, aside from her,
was black. Almost everybody on that train had zero concern
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for her well being whatsoever. Now, I am not going
to cast dispersions against the entire black world. That's ridiculous.
And obviously, actually the man that assists her was I
don't know if he was Latino, hispanic, or light skinned
black guy, but he tried to help her and he
was not white. So I'm not making a blanket statement here. However,
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I will say the fact that there's six or seven
other black people in that car that didn't give a
fuck about what just happened, I personally boiled down to
not so much necessarily diffusion of responsibility or the bystander effect,
but rather complete lack of concern because she was white. Now,
I've never been black, I've never lived the black experience,
and I don't know what it's like. And I don't
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know if the same thing it had happen and it
was a tiny black girl who had been attacked, that
they would have behaved any differently. Perhaps there's a level
of violence in that community. That just makes it so
that these people did not react because they just see
violence all the time and therefore they didn't see that's
just what they would normally do. I find that hard
to believe, though, I really do. I find it very
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hard to believe that they would have reacted the same
way if it was viewed as someone that they considered
their brother or sister. And unfortunately for Arena, they didn't
view her that way. They viewed her as the other.
And now, as much you know, shame and anger and
guilt that I could apply to them, really what I
want to, you know, kind of again extrapolate this out
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to a more macro analysis. I really want to apply
the shame to the people that push this critical theory
nonsense on us for the past two decades. It was
longer than that, but it really took hold over the
past twenty years. The media apparatriics that did it, the
college professors that did it in Ivy League all the
way down, and ultimately the politics that pushed it to
and then Hollywood that propagandized us with it, the ones
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that constantly harped on, you know, the BLM movement and
all this that the white people were the oppressor, and
therefore you know they were they could never be a victim.
And regardless of you know whether or not that this
applies to every single person on that train car, I
have no doubt that it had an impact to perceive
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white people broadly as your oppressor and you as a
victim of their oppression. Well, when you see one of
them victimized, what is your natural response going to be, Well,
it's going to be what you just saw, which is nothing.
You're not going to lift a finger to help, And
that's what happened. Now there's going to be a lot
of political commentators that try and turn this into fodder
for white nationalism. I am not one of those people,
(16:47):
despite my shaved head and the fact that I look
like Edward Norton. That is not the direction that I'm
trying to take this country or trying to take the show.
And I still think that that's a dead end and
ultimately counterproductive to peace and prosperity and humans. So that
is not where I'm headed with this. But you have
to be honest also about the reason people behave the
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way they do today, and I think that it is
very hard to argue that what I'm saying, isn't true
that the indoctrination, the woke mindset, the critical theory, if
you want to be more studious about the analysis, broke
people's brains. It made it so that they dehumanized white people,
and therefore they became unhuman. They became callous, they became
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disinterested in being a loving, kind, normal person to your
fellow men. Some of this can just be boiled down
to cowardice. Obviously, you're always going to have people that
see someone who's been mortally wounded and they're just going
to run because they don't want to be next. I
get that. I don't respect it, but I understand it,
and that's understandable. However, some of these people were not
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running for their lives. They were just sitting there casual
as can be, as if nothing had happened. And those
are the people that I really think demonstrate a real
just loss of humanity, that they do not care about
their fellowmen any longer. And perhaps I'm being over analytical.
Perhaps it's you know, they didn't understand what had happened,
But I'm just telling you, based off of the footage
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I saw, there's no way you didn't know what happened.
It is evident, to put it mildly, you don't even
have to really be looking to know that there is
someone on the floor, and there is a pool that
lets you know exactly how serious the situation is. And
if you're not doing everything in your power as a bystander,
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regardless of how many people there are there, how many
people you think are gonna help, the fact that you're
not at least on your phone, even if you have
no capacity to assist, you have no first aid knowledge, nothing,
the fact that you're not on your phone or getting
off the train immediately to go grab a cop something,
go grab a paramedic something. Nothing. The vast majority did nothing.
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All right, I've been very critical of the media, academ
everything else. Not done yet, though, we have to talk
about the judges. The judges and the politicians that got
us here. Now they are kind of downstream of this
sick critical theory ideology. So again that's like, whenever anything's downstream,
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I put the majority. If not, you know, the totality
of the blame up top, and then the blame trickles
down along with the stream. Right. Still, the judges that
went along with this woke worldview that essentially they became
convinced that if you were a criminal, it's because you
were a victim. Every single criminal they had a backstory,
and we needed to have restorative justice. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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you know, no one could ever just be bad, no
one could ever just commit evil. Now, I think there
was fair arguments to be had that, yes, hurt people,
hurt people, that if you had a terrible childhood and
you were surrounded by crime, and you were a victim
of crime and you had been assaulted or blested or whatever,
that yes, you're probably going to be a really fucked
up adult and you're gonna do really fucked up things too.
(20:02):
But guess what, it doesn't remove culpability. It's still your responsibility.
All of us have had something traumatic happen to us
in our lives, and if you haven't, God bless, I
don't know anybody that hasn't. It doesn't give you carte blanche.
It doesn't enable you to do whatever you want and
victimize your fillow men because oh woe is me. When
I was seven my dad slapped me or whatever, it's
(20:23):
fucking ridiculous. Oh my dad was in prison because the
War on drugs, and look, yeah, you have my sympathies.
My sympathy for you ends the minute you assault somebody,
the minute you actually take a life. Zero empathy. I
don't give a fuck what happened to you as a kid,
and I don't give a fuck about your mental health either.
And there's this tendency to try and ride off or
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justify the behavior of people as if you know, sometimes
people don't just do evil shit. Well, he did evil,
real evil, and he had been arrested over a dozen times,
and he was on the streets. He had been arrested
just earlier this year. He was released, and had he
not been, she would still be alive. That's a fact.
Now Trump and company are going to immediately use this
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as fodder to try and justify their utilization of the
National Guard to move into these cities that have become
lawless hell holes. I can't blame them. I would do
the same thing if I was a politician. This is
red meat for exactly what he wants to do now.
I am very concerned about using federal national police essentially
to move into local jurisdictions. I think it's a violation
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of the Tenth Amendment. I think it's very dangerous. However,
it's happening now, especially after this story. I just don't
see how you stop it. I think that they're going
to proceed with it, and God help us if they
have bad intentions, because.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Today I would like to address the tragedy that has
not received nearly enough media attention, the brutal murder of
Arena Zaruska. Here are the facts that many outlets have
shamefully and intentionally failed to report until President Trump drew
attention to it. On August twenty six, Arena Zarutzka was
stabbed to death on the rail system in Charlotte, North Carolina,
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by a savage career criminal. This is a public transportation
system that many in the area use every single day
to go to school and work. Arena was on the
train that night, traveling home from her job at a pizzeria,
still in uniform from her shift. This beautiful, innocent, twenty
three year old young woman was a Ukrainian refugee who
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had recently fled her country for a chance at a
safer life and a promising new beginning here in the
United States of America. But tragically, a public transportation system
in a major American city was more dangerous than the
active war zone that she left to Carlos. Brown has
been charged with crimes no fewer than fourteen times dating
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back to twenty and eleven, including for armed robbery, felony, larceny,
breaking and entering in shoplifting. Brown had previously served five
years in prison for a robbery with a deadly wetaon
in charge, and he had also forfeited bonds three different times,
twice in twenty fourteen and once in twenty twenty three.
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Despite all of this past documented criminal history, when Brown
was arrested yet again in January of this past year,
a Democrat judge, who will I will add was a supporter,
a strong supporter of former Vice President Kamala Harris, released
this insane criminal once again without requiring him to pay
any bail. He simply had to sign a written promise
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to return for his court hearing. Think about how crazy
it is to ask a career criminal, someone who by
definition repeatedly breaks the law, to just sign a written
promise and come back again another day. This is madness.
This monster should have been locked up and Arena should
still be alive. But Democrat politicians, liberal judges and weak
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prosecutors would rather virtue signal than lock up criminals and
protect their communities.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I just I think that the public is going to
accept it, if not love it, they're going to want
it because these cities have become so so dangerous that
many people are just like I don't care about principles.
I don't care about the tenth Amendment. I don't care
about any of that. Client I want to be able
to walk down the street and not worry about some
dude in a red hoodie coming up and taking my life.
I get it. It's totally human nature. You want safety.
(24:20):
I just want to remind you, if you want safety
so bad that you're willing to give up all liberty
you will have neither. You will be endangered on both sides.
So just remember that it is true that these judges
and these prosecutors absolutely created this crisis. And you have
to add that most of these das that got in
to push these extraordinarily soft on crime or sort of
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justice woke judicial processes were backed by Sorows and company.
That's the truth. And this is the inevitable conclusion of
those policies that if you don't honor property rights, if
you don't lock up violent criminals. I want to be
very you know, Charlie Kirk was saying, we don't have
an overincarceination problem, we have an underin incarceration problem. Ben
(25:06):
Shapiro is saying the same thing. We need more people
in prison. I just want to remind you, guys, nearly
one percent of adults in America. Obviously it's higher for men,
because men are the predominantly those that are in prison
and also predominantly the ones that commit crimes and violent crimes.
Nearly one percent of the adult population in America is
in prison right now. That is it's zero point eight
(25:29):
seven or something like that. Regardless, it's the highest. It's
the highest in the Western world by a lot. It's
ten x what like most of Europe is. So this
argument that we need more people behind bars, I think
is faulty, to put it mildly, and I think it's
backed by the prison industrial complex. So I want to
be very cautious about anybody getting on the bandwagon with that. However,
(25:51):
it is obviously true that we need a lot more
violent people in prison, and what I would like to
see is a swapout. This is all so inevitable consequence
of putting so many nonviolent people in prison, and also
many of the non violent people that got put in
prison get radicalized and turned into violent criminals as a
consequence of being in prison. If you go in there
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for you know, drug possession, and then you come out
four or five years later or ten years later, depending
on how severe the charges were, you could come out
and be a hardened criminal. This is you could talk
to any cops about this. They all know it to
be true. Again, that doesn't justify their behavior. It doesn't
make it because they shouldn't have gone to prison because
they were a non violent drug offender that now they
(26:33):
come out and they commit a violent act. That doesn't
give I don't have any sympathy for them. Fuck them.
They should go to prison forever. But I'm just saying,
if you want to stop this cycle, if you want
to stop creating violent cycle paths, you might want to
start there. So let's not encourage us to have We
already have the most people in prison of any country
in the Western world by a lot. So when Charlie
(26:56):
Kirk and Ben Shapiro start telling you we need to
have way more people in prison, think twice about it. Please,
I encourage, I implore you to think very deeply before
you get on board with more people being put in prison.
We need different people in prison. Let's be very clear.
These das and these prosecutors, they stopped putting violent criminals
(27:21):
and people who were committing property crimes in prison, or
at least they gave them extraordinarily lenient sentences that allowed
them to walk free way sooner than they ever should have.
I am not that guy. There's some libertarians that are
just very much opposed to the public prisonism because it's
publicly funded. And look, I get all the arguments. Regardless,
(27:42):
you cannot have violent people walking around free, Okay, especially
if they're known to have been by it. I don't
have any sympathy for that. You've got to go to
way forever. Now. There's extraordinary circumstances, you know, manslaughter, accidental killings. Sure,
I understand that if you take a life with malice,
I just think you're too dangerous to be in civilization anymore.
And you got to go away at least a couple decades.
(28:04):
And if the judicial system was ran in a way
that's actually productive, maybe there's a chance that you could
actually reform these people and make it so that they
are safe to come out and to live a normal life,
and God bless those that are capable of it. But
I think at some point, I'm just telling you how
the public's going to react. The public is going to say,
I don't care. I don't care that eight out of
ten guys that get out of prison that committed a
(28:26):
violent act will never commit another violent act, even though
I think the recidivism rate is much higher than that.
But it just hypothetically eight out of ten Wouldno, They're
still going to say, don't care. All ten of you
got to stay in. I'm not risking it because of
those twenty percent, they're going to come out and take
somebody's life. I can't blame them. And this is going
to be the real movement coming up. I can tell
it already. This is the whole tough on crime, three
(28:49):
strikes in, You're out mentality. This is I've lived it.
Most of you are probably too young to remember, but
this happened big time in the late eighties and the nineties.
I was a kid, but I still remember, you know, vaguely,
what trans and what happened was they made it so
that if you were a three time felon, you went
away for life twenty five to life, and there was
three strikes in, You're out. That's what they called it,
and I think that's coming back in a big way.
(29:11):
The problem is it's not a reaction to what's actually happened.
The three strikes in your Out program wouldn't have been
such a bad idea if it was violent felons, but
it wasn't. Oftentimes it was not violent felons, and it
was not three violent felonies. It was just three felonies.
The problem is that our felony laws are so broad
that you could have someone who commits three felonies that
(29:31):
is not violent. Now a lot of them are, of course,
most of them are. But I'm not interested in seeing
nonviolent people put in the cage for the rest of
their life. But I am very much interested in someone
who commits three violent assaults or murders going away forever. Yes,
I am.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
So.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Can we find a reasonable, common sense middle ground that
doesn't say we need to have two to three percent
of the American population behind bars, that doesn't say we
need to have drug users be in prison for twenty
to thirty years. Can we can we find the middle
ground that's reasonable. Ever, it feels like every time I
(30:09):
talk about anything that it's like there's a real obvious
reasonable middle ground here, and I feel like it's gonna
be laughed off. I'm gonna you're soft on crime. Other people,
you're too hard on crime. If this is just common sense,
if you're a violent, dangerous person, you don't ever get
to come out, And if you're not, you shouldn't be
there in the first place. Hey, this is not obviously
(30:32):
and like logically rational. I don't know. Let me know
what you think down below. Leave a comment, tell me
if I'm crazy. But I think that's the obvious answer.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
A white Ukrainian refugee was murdered just because she was white.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Everybody knows that. Obviously.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
If a random white person simply walked up to and
stabbed a nice, law abiding black person for no reason,
it would be an apocalyptically huge national story used to
impose national, sweeping political changes on the whole country. Instead,
Megan Basham, no one seems to care when a white
woman gets stabbed to the death.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Wow, he said white a lot. Well, we aren't talking
about it here. I gotta posit there because there's two
really obvious points that need to be made. First off,
he said white a lot. That's what the lady on
the panel says about Charlie Kirk. Guess who also said
white a lot. Her attacker, the guy who took her life, said,
(31:25):
got that white girl, got that white girl. He said
that twice. Now you can argue he's a crazy person
and he's a lunatic, whatever, whatever, whatever, Regardless, his motivation
was evident. He said, got that white girl, a total stranger,
someone he had never interacted with before. This was within
thirty seconds of the attack. He says, got that white
(31:46):
girl like he was proud. He was proud of what
he had just done, and he knew that he had
committed a heinous act that was likely to take her
life because she had already collapsed the ground. So, look,
you want to put it on Charlie Kirk or any
common that make this racial, but you should start there.
You should start with the fact that the guy, the
black dude who took the white girl's life said, got
(32:08):
that white girl. That's what he said, Not me, not
Charlie Kirk or Shapiro or anybody else. He did. I guess.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
I mean, I don't think that's fair look being in
the system because I have represented people who are mentally ill.
And here's the balance. The balance is taking away people's
free versus evaluating their mental illness. In New York City,
there are a lot of programs for people who are
mentally ill, but they have to want to be.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
There, and.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
To be there when you are mentally ill, you have
a hard time knowing that you are mentally ill.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Secondarily, this talk about how there's a lot of there's
lots of options for mental health, but you have to
want to be there. This is what they're saying on CNN, right,
this is the problem if you are and I say
this is someone who's had mental health issues in his family.
If you have someone who is really in need of
hospitalization that is superman ill and a danger to themselves
(33:01):
or others, Yes, it is very challenging to get them
the help that they need. And most states, especially Democrat
rand states, you have no capacity to get them the
help that they need. That doesn't change the fact that
they need help. And this is the whole reason that
there was a sane asylums back before Ronald Reagan. It's
increasingly hard to argue that we don't need forced care
(33:24):
for those that aren't severely mentally ill or severely drug addicted.
There's a tremendous overlap in that vent diagram, where usually
it's both they're mentally ill and they're drug addicted because
they're self medicating because they don't know how to deal
with their enter demons. Now, in most Democrat states, you
can't do anything about that. And that's the reason that
(33:44):
we have such an epidemic of homelessness and drug addiction.
And that's also the reason that we have an epidemic
of violent crime in these cities, is because you are
letting unhinged, drug addled people rome free. And many of
these people have loved ones that care about them, that
have tried, probably multiple times to get them the help
that they need. But as you said, they have to
(34:07):
go voluntarily. Well, if you're crazy enough, and even if
you're not, if you're just stubborn enough, you're not going
to accept that care. Are we going to continue to
live in a civilization where we just let crazy people
and drug addled people roam the streets and commit violent
acts and do nothing about it until they commit those
violent acts, I guess so.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
But also, I mean, people like Charlie Kirk fan they've
been looking for opportunities to make this some sort of
like reciprocal George Floyd situation. And that's the part that
I think he's almost giving away the game, and it's
sad to see a lot of people going along with it.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
What happened to that young woman was horrible, and it's
everybody's nightmare if you're in any public space, a subway, whatever,
that something bad is going to happen to you or
somebody you care about. So it does strike a chord.
We don't know why that man did what he did,
and for Charlie Kirk to say we know he did
it because she's white, when there's no evidence of that
is just pure race mongering, hate mongering.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's wrong. Pause it, Hey, Van Jones. If the perpetrator,
if the assailant says got that white girl, what do
you think his motivation was? Did she make his pizza wrong?
Did she deliver the pizza cold? I mean, what are
we talking about. They had no interaction prior there's video.
Do your fucking job. If you're gonna get on air
and comment on this, as I did. I watched it,
(35:27):
So how are you gonna get on there and say
we don't know. So Charlie Kirk is just race baiting.
He's just trying to, you know, start a race war
some bullshit. No, this guy said that, so at least
be honest about it. Good God.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
Then he says that if something like that had happened
the other way, there'd be sweeping changes and polls on society.
Where is the George Floyd Policing Act. It didn't pass.
Even when you had a white police officer murder a
black man on live television, the whole world saw. There
were no sleeping changes. In fact, not one law was
passed at the federal level. Well, that's I think that's
(36:01):
an important thing to point out.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Pause it. We had congressional photo ops where they're like
wearing shadikis and shit or whatever how you pronounce it.
I don't know how you pronounced it. Anyways, you get
the point. You know, African like traditional African garb, and
they're like taking a knee. You had cops all across
the country taking the knee with Black Lives Matter protesters.
You had white people are like fucking kissing their boots
and stuff. It's insane. So you think any of that's
(36:24):
gonna happen for Arena, any of it? The answer is no,
none of it. Nothing's going to happen. In fact, I
mean sure, I think that the guy will be prosecuted,
and God willing, he will be. But if you think
that there's if there are any new sweeping laws, it's
probably going to be under you know, hate crime pretext.
And I don't want to go down this hate crime
path anyways. This tit for tat escalation of you know,
(36:46):
protected classes is not where we need to go. We
need to be treated equally under the law. I don't
know why this is such a profound or unusual statement
to make. We don't need special laws. If you take
a life that's hate, I don't need a hate crime law.
You're still going to go away forever. Why do we
even need to have that type of stuff. It's ridiculous.
(37:06):
When did that happen? I was twenty twenty man who
was the president? Joe Biden? What happened? Bud? So for
the record, I don't think that there should have been
any federal laws that were passed as a consequence of
George Floyd. I think he died of a federal overdose. Now,
you could argue whether or not the cops should have
been on his neck for eight nine minutes. I don't
think they should have. However, if you actually watch the footage,
this is a much more complicated and nuanced story than
(37:30):
you have been told. And I'm sure most of you
already aware because you watch stuff like this, so you're
undoubtedly aware of the footage that demonstrated that he was
put in the back of the police card, that he
asked to be taken out of, the card that he
asked to lay on the ground. So yeah, he definitely
did not cooperate with the police. That still doesn't mean,
in my opinion, that they were justified and kneeling on
his back the way they did as long as they did. Now,
(37:52):
did that contribute to his death? I'm not sure. Would
he have died regardless, I think so probably, But can
I say definitively no, I can't. But it doesn't change
the fact that he did take a lethal amount of
drugs and probably would have died regardless. Yeah, someone did
mention Race, and it wasn't Charlie Kirk. The first person
I mentioned Race was the murderer. So let's be very
(38:13):
clear about that. This is not just some random white
on black crime that people are assuming was race based.
His first sentence, his first two sentences after was got
that white girl. So it's a fair assumption to make
that this was racially motivated, especially given that there was
no impetus for this behavior whatsoever outside of his own words,
(38:35):
which was that. So yeah, I think it's fair to
assume that it was racially motivated. Now does that mean
that I want hate crime laws to try and get
her justice. No, because there are laws on the books
that can get her justice, which is him in prison
forever and if he's reincarnated, put him in prison again forever.
(38:57):
Just monstrous behavior. So, if you've hung on long, we're
going to get to the cancelor part of the show.
These are the statistics that you're not supposed to discuss,
and if you do discuss them, you're immediately accused of
being right beg it and blah blah blah blah blah.
But it doesn't matter because, as you know, I always
just seek out the truth wherever it may lead and
let the chips fall where they may. So here's some
(39:18):
statistics that are extraordinarily disturbing, and it was hard for
me to even believe, but they are true. First off, obviously,
the majority of murders are committed by men. Men are
usually more violent than women on the whole, so that's
not exactly surprising. What is surprising is that Black men,
who are approximately six point five percent of the population,
are responsible for more than half of the murders in America. Now,
(39:41):
you can argue there's disproportional prosecutions and blah blah blah, regardless,
that is a way disproportionate murder rate amongst black men. Now,
let's be very clear. Ninety plus percent, probably ninety nine
percent of Black men in America are not violent. It's
not what I'm trying to say. What I saying is
that most people are not violent. But the majority of
(40:06):
murderers are black men and they are only six point
five percent of the population. That's a conversation that has
to happen, regardless of how it makes you feel or
labels to get placed on you. And let me add,
if you are concerned about black men's well being, you
ought to be concerned about these statistics too. You know why,
because one in twenty one black men will be murdered.
(40:30):
It's four percent or so of Black men will be
murdered in their lifetime. Who will they be murdered by?
Not white men, not Asian men, black men. So before
you hear these statistics and start flipping out and calling
me racist, you might want to ask yourself, is it
racist to deny these statistics given that the victims of
these murders will also be Black men. H Food for thought. Additionally,
(40:52):
I couldn't even believe this, but it is essentially comparable
these numbers because, as I said earlier, men commit the
majority of murders because we are more violent. Sorry it's
a testosterone or whatever the justification is for why more violent.
It's just true. Historically it's always been this way. Well,
here's the statistic that's truly jaw dropping. Black women have
(41:14):
murder rates comparable to white men. So there is a
disproportionate violence problem in the black community versus the overall population.
That's just true. Again, not saying that all black people
are a problem. I'm just saying we have to be
honest about the fact that there is a serious problem,
(41:35):
and there is a ton of black people that would
like for us all of us to start telling the
truth about it, because it is not helping their community
to say, oh, there's nothing, there's no reason for any
of this. There's no similarities between these cases that could
actually explain why some of this is transpiring. Go to
Chicago and talk to some of the ultermen there. If
(41:55):
they won't tell you the truth, I'd be shocked. Well,
the aldermen in Chicago are politicians, I think, so maybe
they wouldn't be honest, But talk to a pastor, maybe
they'd be honest about it. It's a real fucking problem,
and I think that it's time that people just tell
the truth about it. And it doesn't mean that you
have to advocate for you know, Jim Crow and slavery
and deportations or repatriots or whatever you want to call it.
(42:16):
You don't have to advocate for any of that. You
just have to be honest. You just have to tell
the truth. The truth is there's a real problem there,
and if I was a black man in America, I'd
want to fucking tell the truth about it because if
I recognize that there was a four plus percent chance
that I would be murdered by someone who looks like me,
in my lifetime. That's a serious problem. I mean, think
(42:36):
about how high that is. I still can't even believe
it's true. Four out of one hundred black men will
be killed by their fellow African American in their lifetimes.
That's astonishing. Now, I'm sure it's localized and that it's
much higher in like a place like Chicago, it's probably
fifteen to twenty percent, and if it's in rural places,
(42:57):
it's probably back down in normal levels one percent or less.
But my god, four plus percent of black men will
be murdered in their lifetimes. When I read that, it
was just so jaw dropping, so profound, so shocking that
I had to tell you guys about it, regardless of
you know, the fact that I'll be labeled and maybe
even censored for saying it. But that's crazy. That's crazy high.
(43:20):
And just to give you ironclad comparisons so you understand
how crazy high that is, the percentage for white men
zero point eight percent. Now that that's too high. I'm
shocked that it's almost one percent of white men will
be murdered in their lifetimes. That's crazy high too, But
it's still under one percent versus over four percent. I mean,
was that five to six x. That's unbelievable. And we've
(43:43):
been so broudbeaten and so you know, aggressively labeled as
racist for having these conversations that no one wants to
talk about it. No one wants to just tell the truth.
I mean, it's obviously a serious problem. And if you
want to boil it all down to you know, poverty
and racism and trench you know, whatever legacy if parents
got put away for war, andre look, okay, whatever, whatever,
(44:05):
whatever the backdrop is, whatever excuse or explanation you want
to give it, it doesn't change the fact that once
you commit, once you take someone's life, there is no sympathy.
Speaker 8 (44:15):
What we gotta do, if we really want to see
homicides go down, is keep bad guys with guns in jail,
because when they in jail, they can't be in community
shooting people. So when people talk about what we're gonna
do different, or what we should do different, what we
need to do different, that's the thing that we need
to do different. We need to keep violent people in jail.
Right now, the average homicide suspect, the average homicide suspect
(44:37):
has been arrested eleven times prior to them committing a homicide.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
That is a problem. That is a problem. There is
no backstory that I'm really interested in hearing. There's nine.
You are a violent, dangerous person and you have to
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look like. I don't give a fuck what God you
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There are a few other vital points that need to
be made that I haven't seen anyone else make, so
I'm going to do it. First off, this attack, this
murder happened on August twenty second. It is September ninth today,
and this story did not see the light of day
until about four days ago, and that was only on
social media, and it was brought to the President's attention
(46:29):
because it went so viral on social media that then
forced the media to cover it. Point being August twenty second,
was nearly three weeks ago. So it's my opinion based
off of how obviously evil and crazy this story is.
This video was suppressed, that this story was not supposed
to get out, and I'll tell you what I think.
(46:49):
I don't know for sure, but it sure looks like
it is that because it was so egregious and because
of what he says in the aftermath got that white girl,
they tried to suppress this story. They tried to not
cover it. Sure they would have prosecuted him, and I'm
sure he would have gone away for decades, but regardless,
they did not want the public to know about this story.
(47:11):
I don't see any other explanation for how this video
gets suppressed for over three weeks or nearly three weeks. Also,
no media coverage. Also, the local politicians were talking about
how they didn't want this to be covered. They didn't
want people to be talking about it because they knew
that it would inflame racial tensions. Was their justification. As
if the George Floyd video wasn't shown on a fucking
(47:35):
loop for months in the summer of twenty twenty, As
if our cities didn't burn down as a consequence of
that video being put on loop for fucking months. But
you can't show this one though? Why double standard?
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Much?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah? Really disturbing, really infuriating. Second, people continue to refer
to this now as basically any news coverage that's coming
from the liberal rags New York Times. They're they're framing
it as this is creating a you know, an outcry
amongst the right. Why is this partisan? Was she some
(48:10):
hardcore Trump supporter?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Actually, Arena had a poster that said Black Lives Matter
on her bedroom door that was hung up. I sincerely
doubt she was a Trump supporter or maga or right
wing at all. Maybe she should have been, she was not.
So why is this partisan? Because she's just white? That's it.
(48:32):
That makes her the other in their in their worldview.
How crazy is that? How absolutely sick is that a
girl who probably would have voted for them just despises
her so much because of her skin that she has
to be a Trump supporter because she's white, or this
story only matters to people on the right because she's white.
(48:52):
It's absurd, it's obscene. Also, they're trying to frame this
as this is uh, you know, Matt is George Floyd moment,
that this is that we're gonna turn this into some
sort of George Floyd thinking, No, no, no, excuse me. First off,
not comparable, okay, not comparable. This is a cold blooded
(49:12):
murder of a total stranger against a total stranger. This
is not a cop that was dealing with a guy
who passed off counterfeit bills, had a lethal dose of
fennel in his system, kneel on his back. Maybe he
contributed to his death. I don't know. It's none of that.
There is no conflating fact variables or confusion here. This
is not a police brutality debate or use of violence
(49:35):
or useful force debate. This is a straight up, no
excuses murder of a white girl. Also, none of the
cops involved in the George Floyd killing were like, got
that black boy. They weren't talking about his race at all.
There's no evidence. If there was any evidence, trust me,
you would have heard about it back then. Never happened,
(49:58):
because I don't think they were racially motivated at all. Actually,
whereas this is so, if you're gonna say that this
is the right wings George Floyd moment, well, actually this
is a real moment because it actually was racially motivated,
whereas yours wasn't. And there is no confusion as to
(50:18):
whether or not this was a murder. I hope, I
hope we can agree on that. I just wanted to
get that off my chest because to describe this as
partisan is sick beyond words. Also, you guys are the
party that argues in favor of you know, women's rights. Right,
you don't want to be in a handsmade tale and
all this bullshit you guys say constantly, Okay, well what
about her right to live? Why am I upset? And
(50:42):
you're not? Have you asked yourself that? Have you thought
about it at all? Are you? Are you questioning your
humanity because you should be. If the first thing you
see when you see a black guy brutally murder a tiny,
little innocent white girl is oh my god, this is
really gonna help Trump. You're fucking nuts, man, You're out.
(51:05):
You've totally totally lost your mind. You have gotten so
deep in the partisan kool aid, you've lost your humanity.
You need to check yourself into a facility. Honestly, like
there's something deeply fucked up. That's all I got to say.
That's it. That's it. That's my venting. Oh man, this
is weird, weird times we're living in. We're surrounded by
(51:29):
homemost crazy people and Democrat crazy people, and some right
wing crazy people and just a whole lot of crazy people.
And we don't have asylums strap in. Oh man, all right,
I didn't expect this one to go so long, So
I'm gonna cut here and do another episode on these
other topics, these you know, potpourri of topics that I
wanted to get into.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
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For far too long, Americans have been forced to put
up with Democrat run cities and set loose, savage, bloodthirsty
criminals to prey on innocent people, really very very innocent people.
In every place, they control radical left judges, politicians, and activists,
and they've adopted a policy of catch and release for
(00:21):
thugs and killers. In Charlotte, North Carolina, we saw the
results of these policies when a twenty three year old
woman who came here from Ukraine met her bloody end
on a public train. And here's a picture of it.
This is the picture of it. And this is a
picture of the woman, a beautiful young girl that never
(00:43):
had problems in life, with a magnificent future in this country,
and now she's dead.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
On August twenty second, Zarubska's life was taken, and it
was done in the most graphic, on video fashion you
could possibly imagine. I'm not going to show you the video.
You can find it on x if you're interested in
seeing the full thing. First off, I don't think I
could show it to you. I think this video would
be taken down. And secondarily, I'm gonna describe it in
a way that hopefully you don't have to watch it
(01:08):
because I think it's important that you understand what happened.
You can take my word for it, or you can
watch it for yourself, if you have a steel will
and iron stomach and are emotionally sound, that you can
handle watching something like that. I wish that I hadn't,
but in order to speak about it intelligently, I felt
like it was necessary, so I did. Anyways. Rina Zusko
(01:29):
was a twenty three year old Ukrainian refugee. She had
arrived in twenty twenty two, right at the outset of
the war. I believe she truly fled Ukraine as a
consequence of the war between Russia and Ukraine. And she
arrived here and she lived in North Carolina, and she
worked at a pizza parlor and she got off her
shift and she got on a train to I assume
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head home, and unfortunately she never made it. So what
transpires is so that you don't have to watch it.
I'm gonna describe it as best I can. She sits
down on the train, She's still wearing her pizza parlor attire.
She's got the branding pizza parlor hat and shirt, and
she just gets on the train sits down and she's
there for a few minutes. Her assailant, a black monster,
(02:13):
is sitting right behind her. He doesn't talk to her,
she doesn't talk to him. There's no eye contact, there's
no escalation, there's no fight, there's no conversation, there's no warning,
there's no nothing. She is just sitting there on her phone.
Couldn't weigh more than a hundred pounds, little tiny thing
and harmless, utterly harmless. Out of the blue, this guy
takes out from his pocket. He's got this red hoodie on.
(02:36):
I don't know if it was in the hoodie or
in his pants, but takes out what looks like a
fold out knife and within less than two seconds, I
mean literally like blink of the eye type of attack.
There's three motions. It looks as if, honestly, it looks
more like slashing than stabbing. If you've seen the photo
and not the video, and I encourage you to just
see the photo and not the video. There's this freeze
(02:58):
frame photo that's gone very viral where she's looking up
at him and she's like like that. What you realize
if you watch the entire video, that is after the attack,
she has already been mortally wounded at least once, if
not all three of the stablished. I don't know how
bad all of them were. But she is panicked, she's horrified.
(03:19):
She is looking around to see what happened, because obviously
she was totally caught off guard, and she sees her attacker,
and that's the last face she will ever see, this
monstrosity that attacked her for apps of fucking lutely no
reason whatsoever. It's horrific. So what happens. She grabs her neck,
(03:42):
and honestly, if you just see the five to ten
second video, it looks as if you know it, maybe
it's not so bad. Within about twenty seconds, though she
has already collapsed to the ground. Within about thirty to
forty five seconds, you can already see the blood pool
that is starting to spread, and it is a fatal wound.
(04:02):
And I will say, well, I don't think that even
if you had a world class surgeon on hand, or
an EMT or a paramedic right there at the very
first attack, I don't think that her life could have
been saved. I mean, I could be wrong. That's not
my forte or my expertise. Spiny Sturge the imagination, but
the amount of blood that pours out within the first
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ninety seconds, it does not look as if it was survivable.
It looks as if he got the carotid artery to
me as a layman, and it's just unbelievable, I mean
unbelievably tragic. I'll get into more of the you know,
callous political analysis in a second, but I just want
to say, you know, my heart goes out to her
family in Ukraine. I assume most of them still live there.
(04:45):
I don't know for sure, maybe they moved out here
with her. Regardless, unbelievable tragedy. And while President Trump said
that you know, she had never had anything wrong in life.
You know, a war refugee that gets to America and
then has this appen, and it's tragic beyondwards, especially such
a young person. I really don't have words for it.
(05:06):
It's just the loss is absolutely brutal. But I do
have words for these people. I have words for the
people on the train itself. So because it's a twenty
minute video, you get to see the full aftermath, and
what you realize is that as there's probably eight people
in this train car. It's hard to say because it's
facing from the front towards the back and or like
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kind of angled a little bit, And you can't really
tell how many people are sitting up in the front
of the train, but I think I identified approximately eight
different people aside from Arena in the footage. So first off,
what you recognize is that no one does anything for
I mean for the first literally for the first ninety seconds,
even though she is on the floor and in dire condition,
(05:50):
in need of immediate assistance. Thirty seconds in, everybody has
to be aware of that she's collapsed, So at minimum,
by forty five seconds, you have to see all of
the blood everywhere, so you know she needs immediate assistance.
I don't see anybody on their phone. I don't see
anybody calling now on one. I don't see anyone providing aid.
I don't see anyone reaching out to her trying to
(06:11):
see if she needs aid, asking her questions. Nothing. Now, granted,
she had just been attacked. This guy is obviously unhinged
and very dangerous, so I'm not expecting within the first
forty five seconds for people to be to know exactly
what happened, because it was very fast, and if you
weren't actually watching it, you probably wouldn't have known what transpired,
so I want to give some grace. However, after you
(06:33):
see that there's a tremendous amount of blood. Also, the
assailant has already walked away. He's already gone to the
front of the car. I don't know if he exited,
because I only have the footage facing the rear of
the car. I don't know if he actually exited, or
if he went to another train car further up front
of the train. I'm not sure. Regardless, he's not there
and they are not assisting her. By about ninety seconds,
(06:55):
one man, God bless him, does approach her and starts to,
you know, identify the issue, and starts to try and
help her. So I want to be very clear, all
of my anger is not directed at him. He did
what he could. He actually takes off his shirt, he
tries to stop the bleeding. He is a hero, and
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he deserves whatever public applause you can give him. Honestly,
everybody else, though, for the first four minutes, does fuck all.
They do nothing. Most of them pretend as if it's
like nothing's even happened. It's truly jaw dropping to witness
and there's actually one, this black dude. He looks like
he's videoing it, and he's videoing as this other man
(07:39):
is trying to save her life, and he like, it
looks as if he's videoing. I can't say definitively, but
it looks as if he's videoing her as she dies.
And then he steps over the guy who's helping her.
He kind of like, I don't know if he leaps,
but he walks over him and he leaves, and I
just I can't. I can't put myself in that mentality.
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I can't. I don't know how you could be so callous.
I don't know how you could have so little value
for life. It's it's it's I mean, it's just unspeakably evil.
I don't. I don't know how else to describe it.
It's really mind blowing that there's such little respect for
life in that community that you would have seven other
people give or take that don't give a fuck that
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this lady is dying and they don't try and help
her at all, and it doesn't even look like they're
calling the cops. It's just it's fucking it's infuriating. There's
something about the nature of big cities that really dehumanizes people.
It makes them callous and detaches them from their fellow men,
which is ironic because you would think that if living
in the country, you would not be around so many people,
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and therefore you would be more detached from humanity. It's
actually the inverse, where the less people you have around you,
the more you care about those people, and the more
people you have around you, the less you care about them.
As if we have a threshold or a ceiling on
how much empathy we're able to offer our fellow man,
and if you have too many people around you, your
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ceiling is already met justin saying, you know, thank you,
or opening a door for somebody, which is probably in
New York that doesn't happen very often either, I would imagine,
And I think this is where you get the entire
stereotype of the rude New Yorker. Is that just so
competitive and people are so detached from one another that
they end up being assholes. And I guess that's how
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you have to beat to survive in the big city.
At least that's the argument that they make to justify
that behavior. Regardless, it's a problem. It's a real problem. Now,
a lot of people are making this connection, and I
think their right to do so to Daniel Penny. That
Daniel Penny tried to restrain yet another black guy who
was out of his mind and arguably very dangerous. It's
(09:54):
hard to say for sure whether or not he would
have done anything. No one will ever know, but he
had to attacked people pass he did have charges, so
he had the capacity for sure. Anyways, Daniel Penny was
arrested and he was facing the rest of his life
in jail. So if you're a bystander on a train
and you see a violent action or someone who looks
to be violent, you're not going to intervene. So I
(10:15):
can understand that rationale. I could understand if you see
someone who's dangerous, who hasn't actually attacked anybody, not doing anything.
What I can't understand is when the assailant is gone,
that you still demonstrate zero concern for your fellow man,
Like what has happened to you? What has happened to
your soul? What has happened to your humanity? That you
(10:38):
could allow for this little, tiny, twenty three year old
girl to expire in front of your eyes and you
do nothing I mean, as I said, I don't think
that her life was salvageable. Tragically, I don't think that
you could have had you given the best aid in
the first forty five seconds, I don't think that you
could have saved her regardless, just the humanity to try,
(11:01):
or the humanity to comfort her, to be the last
she saw aside from her murderer, to show kindness and
love in those final moments. I just think that's the
least that could have been asked of you, And especially
given that the guy was gone at that point, even
if she's already you know, fainted and she's unconscious, you
could at least be there for her or try, And
(11:22):
no one did other than that one man, And it's just,
oh god. Now, this is a well known phenomenon. It's
called the bystander effect or diffusion of responsibility. So this
is a well known thing that sociologists have studied, and
this is what happens. There's always this assumption that someone
else will do something. So if there's all these other
people around, someone's going to assist her. So the fact
(11:44):
that that one guy did ninety seconds after she's already
on the ground, I guess I don't have to do anything. Well,
that's kind of a scientific explanation for why people behave
the way they do, but it's still not a moral justification.
It's not a moral action to see your fellow man
in need, in such grave need, and to do nothing,
to step over the guy that's actually assisting her, to
(12:06):
go do whatever you're going to do next. And I
think you know, on a macro level, what we're seeing
is this is byproduct of a civilization that no longer
cares for one another because we don't see ourselves as
a people, We don't have the roots that bind us
together in a way that makes us care for our
fellow men. And it's not as if you can't care
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for all people regardless of some sort of national pride.
But the way human beings function, broadly speaking, is that
if there's too many people around, you just don't have.
As I said earlier, there's kind of a ceiling on
how much empathy you can have for people, So therefore
you become very callous. So what breaks through that callousness, Well,
in my opinion, it's oftentimes seeing each other as kin,
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you know, kinfolk that oftentimes comes along with national pride
regardless of skin color. That's what made America very unique
is that we could still see our fellow men in
America as an American, regardless of skin, or religion or
any of that. As a consequence of the critical theory
deluge over the past two decades that happened through academia
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and then trickled into the media space and then to
Hollywood and basically became all encompassing. What I think happened
is that more and more we were divided on race,
on skin color, and all of this was done under
the pretext or the guise of trying to address racial injustice.
But what they really did is they gave everyone racial
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consciousness again. Because only speaking for myself and most of
the white people that I knew, racial consciousness had essentially
been obliterated. There was no concern of what someone looked like.
If you saw someone that was obviously mortally wounded, you
would go to their aid. If you see a car crash,
you would stop and try and help, Like this is
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just naturally what you would do. I mean not everybody,
but a lot of people would because you viewed them
as your fellow countrymen, your fellow you know, your fellow man,
and that has been lost. And look, no one's going
to want to make this point, but you have to
make it. Almost everybody on that train, aside from her,
was black. Almost everybody on that train had zero concern
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for her well being whatsoever. Now, I am not going
to cast dispersions against the entire black world. That's ridiculous.
And obviously, actually the man that assists her was I
don't know if he was Latino, hispanic, or light skinned
black guy, but he tried to help her and he
was not white. So I'm not making a blanket statement here. However,
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I will say the fact that there's six or seven
other black people in that car that didn't give a
fuck about what just happened, I personally boiled down to
not so much necessarily diffusion of responsibility or the bystander effect,
but rather complete lack of concern because she was white. Now,
I've never been black, I've never lived the black experience,
and I don't know what it's like. And I don't
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know if the same thing it had happen and it
was a tiny black girl who had been attacked, that
they would have behaved any differently. Perhaps there's a level
of violence in that community. That just makes it so
that these people did not react because they just see
violence all the time and therefore they didn't see that's
just what they would normally do. I find that hard
to believe, though, I really do. I find it very
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hard to believe that they would have reacted the same
way if it was viewed as someone that they considered
their brother or sister. And unfortunately for Arena, they didn't
view her that way. They viewed her as the other.
And now, as much you know, shame and anger and
guilt that I could apply to them, really what I
want to, you know, kind of again extrapolate this out
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to a more macro analysis. I really want to apply
the shame to the people that push this critical theory
nonsense on us for the past two decades. It was
longer than that, but it really took hold over the
past twenty years. The media apparatriics that did it, the
college professors that did it in Ivy League all the
way down, and ultimately the politics that pushed it to
and then Hollywood that propagandized us with it, the ones
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that constantly harped on, you know, the BLM movement and
all this that the white people were the oppressor, and
therefore you know they were they could never be a victim.
And regardless of you know whether or not that this
applies to every single person on that train car, I
have no doubt that it had an impact to perceive
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white people broadly as your oppressor and you as a
victim of their oppression. Well, when you see one of
them victimized, what is your natural response going to be, Well,
it's going to be what you just saw, which is nothing.
You're not going to lift a finger to help, And
that's what happened. Now there's going to be a lot
of political commentators that try and turn this into fodder
for white nationalism. I am not one of those people,
(16:47):
despite my shaved head and the fact that I look
like Edward Norton. That is not the direction that I'm
trying to take this country or trying to take the show.
And I still think that that's a dead end and
ultimately counterproductive to peace and prosperity and humans. So that
is not where I'm headed with this. But you have
to be honest also about the reason people behave the
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way they do today, and I think that it is
very hard to argue that what I'm saying, isn't true
that the indoctrination, the woke mindset, the critical theory, if
you want to be more studious about the analysis, broke
people's brains. It made it so that they dehumanized white people,
and therefore they became unhuman. They became callous, they became
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disinterested in being a loving, kind, normal person to your
fellow men. Some of this can just be boiled down
to cowardice. Obviously, you're always going to have people that
see someone who's been mortally wounded and they're just going
to run because they don't want to be next. I
get that. I don't respect it, but I understand it,
and that's understandable. However, some of these people were not
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running for their lives. They were just sitting there casual
as can be, as if nothing had happened. And those
are the people that I really think demonstrate a real
just loss of humanity, that they do not care about
their fellowmen any longer. And perhaps I'm being over analytical.
Perhaps it's you know, they didn't understand what had happened,
But I'm just telling you, based off of the footage
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I saw, there's no way you didn't know what happened.
It is evident, to put it mildly, you don't even
have to really be looking to know that there is
someone on the floor, and there is a pool that
lets you know exactly how serious the situation is. And
if you're not doing everything in your power as a bystander,
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regardless of how many people there are there, how many
people you think are gonna help, the fact that you're
not at least on your phone, even if you have
no capacity to assist, you have no first aid knowledge, nothing,
the fact that you're not on your phone or getting
off the train immediately to go grab a cop something,
go grab a paramedic something. Nothing. The vast majority did nothing.
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All right, I've been very critical of the media, academ
everything else. Not done yet, though, we have to talk
about the judges. The judges and the politicians that got
us here. Now they are kind of downstream of this
sick critical theory ideology. So again that's like, whenever anything's downstream,
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I put the majority. If not, you know, the totality
of the blame up top, and then the blame trickles
down along with the stream. Right. Still, the judges that
went along with this woke worldview that essentially they became
convinced that if you were a criminal, it's because you
were a victim. Every single criminal they had a backstory,
and we needed to have restorative justice. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
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you know, no one could ever just be bad, no
one could ever just commit evil. Now, I think there
was fair arguments to be had that, yes, hurt people,
hurt people, that if you had a terrible childhood and
you were surrounded by crime, and you were a victim
of crime and you had been assaulted or blested or whatever,
that yes, you're probably going to be a really fucked
up adult and you're gonna do really fucked up things too.
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But guess what, it doesn't remove culpability. It's still your responsibility.
All of us have had something traumatic happen to us
in our lives, and if you haven't, God bless, I
don't know anybody that hasn't. It doesn't give you carte blanche.
It doesn't enable you to do whatever you want and
victimize your fillow men because oh woe is me. When
I was seven my dad slapped me or whatever, it's
(20:23):
fucking ridiculous. Oh my dad was in prison because the
War on drugs, and look, yeah, you have my sympathies.
My sympathy for you ends the minute you assault somebody,
the minute you actually take a life. Zero empathy. I
don't give a fuck what happened to you as a kid,
and I don't give a fuck about your mental health either.
And there's this tendency to try and ride off or
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justify the behavior of people as if you know, sometimes
people don't just do evil shit. Well, he did evil,
real evil, and he had been arrested over a dozen times,
and he was on the streets. He had been arrested
just earlier this year. He was released, and had he
not been, she would still be alive. That's a fact.
Now Trump and company are going to immediately use this
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as fodder to try and justify their utilization of the
National Guard to move into these cities that have become
lawless hell holes. I can't blame them. I would do
the same thing if I was a politician. This is
red meat for exactly what he wants to do now.
I am very concerned about using federal national police essentially
to move into local jurisdictions. I think it's a violation
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of the Tenth Amendment. I think it's very dangerous. However,
it's happening now, especially after this story. I just don't
see how you stop it. I think that they're going
to proceed with it, and God help us if they
have bad intentions, because.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Today I would like to address the tragedy that has
not received nearly enough media attention, the brutal murder of
Arena Zaruska. Here are the facts that many outlets have
shamefully and intentionally failed to report until President Trump drew
attention to it. On August twenty six, Arena Zarutzka was
stabbed to death on the rail system in Charlotte, North Carolina,
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by a savage career criminal. This is a public transportation
system that many in the area use every single day
to go to school and work. Arena was on the
train that night, traveling home from her job at a pizzeria,
still in uniform from her shift. This beautiful, innocent, twenty
three year old young woman was a Ukrainian refugee who
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had recently fled her country for a chance at a
safer life and a promising new beginning here in the
United States of America. But tragically, a public transportation system
in a major American city was more dangerous than the
active war zone that she left to Carlos. Brown has
been charged with crimes no fewer than fourteen times dating
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back to twenty and eleven, including for armed robbery, felony, larceny,
breaking and entering in shoplifting. Brown had previously served five
years in prison for a robbery with a deadly wetaon
in charge, and he had also forfeited bonds three different times,
twice in twenty fourteen and once in twenty twenty three.
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Despite all of this past documented criminal history, when Brown
was arrested yet again in January of this past year,
a Democrat judge, who will I will add was a supporter,
a strong supporter of former Vice President Kamala Harris, released
this insane criminal once again without requiring him to pay
any bail. He simply had to sign a written promise
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to return for his court hearing. Think about how crazy
it is to ask a career criminal, someone who by
definition repeatedly breaks the law, to just sign a written
promise and come back again another day. This is madness.
This monster should have been locked up and Arena should
still be alive. But Democrat politicians, liberal judges and weak
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prosecutors would rather virtue signal than lock up criminals and
protect their communities.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I just I think that the public is going to
accept it, if not love it, they're going to want
it because these cities have become so so dangerous that
many people are just like I don't care about principles.
I don't care about the tenth Amendment. I don't care
about any of that. Client I want to be able
to walk down the street and not worry about some
dude in a red hoodie coming up and taking my life.
I get it. It's totally human nature. You want safety.
(24:20):
I just want to remind you, if you want safety
so bad that you're willing to give up all liberty
you will have neither. You will be endangered on both sides.
So just remember that it is true that these judges
and these prosecutors absolutely created this crisis. And you have
to add that most of these das that got in
to push these extraordinarily soft on crime or sort of
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justice woke judicial processes were backed by Sorows and company.
That's the truth. And this is the inevitable conclusion of
those policies that if you don't honor property rights, if
you don't lock up violent criminals. I want to be
very you know, Charlie Kirk was saying, we don't have
an overincarceination problem, we have an underin incarceration problem. Ben
(25:06):
Shapiro is saying the same thing. We need more people
in prison. I just want to remind you, guys, nearly
one percent of adults in America. Obviously it's higher for men,
because men are the predominantly those that are in prison
and also predominantly the ones that commit crimes and violent crimes.
Nearly one percent of the adult population in America is
in prison right now. That is it's zero point eight
(25:29):
seven or something like that. Regardless, it's the highest. It's
the highest in the Western world by a lot. It's
ten x what like most of Europe is. So this
argument that we need more people behind bars, I think
is faulty, to put it mildly, and I think it's
backed by the prison industrial complex. So I want to
be very cautious about anybody getting on the bandwagon with that. However,
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it is obviously true that we need a lot more
violent people in prison, and what I would like to
see is a swapout. This is all so inevitable consequence
of putting so many nonviolent people in prison, and also
many of the non violent people that got put in
prison get radicalized and turned into violent criminals as a
consequence of being in prison. If you go in there
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for you know, drug possession, and then you come out
four or five years later or ten years later, depending
on how severe the charges were, you could come out
and be a hardened criminal. This is you could talk
to any cops about this. They all know it to
be true. Again, that doesn't justify their behavior. It doesn't
make it because they shouldn't have gone to prison because
they were a non violent drug offender that now they
(26:33):
come out and they commit a violent act. That doesn't
give I don't have any sympathy for them. Fuck them.
They should go to prison forever. But I'm just saying,
if you want to stop this cycle, if you want
to stop creating violent cycle paths, you might want to
start there. So let's not encourage us to have We
already have the most people in prison of any country
in the Western world by a lot. So when Charlie
(26:56):
Kirk and Ben Shapiro start telling you we need to
have way more people in prison, think twice about it. Please,
I encourage, I implore you to think very deeply before
you get on board with more people being put in prison.
We need different people in prison. Let's be very clear.
These das and these prosecutors, they stopped putting violent criminals
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and people who were committing property crimes in prison, or
at least they gave them extraordinarily lenient sentences that allowed
them to walk free way sooner than they ever should have.
I am not that guy. There's some libertarians that are
just very much opposed to the public prisonism because it's
publicly funded. And look, I get all the arguments. Regardless,
(27:42):
you cannot have violent people walking around free, Okay, especially
if they're known to have been by it. I don't
have any sympathy for that. You've got to go to
way forever. Now. There's extraordinary circumstances, you know, manslaughter, accidental killings. Sure,
I understand that if you take a life with malice,
I just think you're too dangerous to be in civilization anymore.
And you got to go away at least a couple decades.
(28:04):
And if the judicial system was ran in a way
that's actually productive, maybe there's a chance that you could
actually reform these people and make it so that they
are safe to come out and to live a normal life,
and God bless those that are capable of it. But
I think at some point, I'm just telling you how
the public's going to react. The public is going to say,
I don't care. I don't care that eight out of
ten guys that get out of prison that committed a
(28:26):
violent act will never commit another violent act, even though
I think the recidivism rate is much higher than that.
But it just hypothetically eight out of ten Wouldno, They're
still going to say, don't care. All ten of you
got to stay in. I'm not risking it because of
those twenty percent, they're going to come out and take
somebody's life. I can't blame them. And this is going
to be the real movement coming up. I can tell
it already. This is the whole tough on crime, three
(28:49):
strikes in, You're out mentality. This is I've lived it.
Most of you are probably too young to remember, but
this happened big time in the late eighties and the nineties.
I was a kid, but I still remember, you know, vaguely,
what trans and what happened was they made it so
that if you were a three time felon, you went
away for life twenty five to life, and there was
three strikes in, You're out. That's what they called it,
and I think that's coming back in a big way.
(29:11):
The problem is it's not a reaction to what's actually happened.
The three strikes in your Out program wouldn't have been
such a bad idea if it was violent felons, but
it wasn't. Oftentimes it was not violent felons, and it
was not three violent felonies. It was just three felonies.
The problem is that our felony laws are so broad
that you could have someone who commits three felonies that
(29:31):
is not violent. Now a lot of them are, of course,
most of them are. But I'm not interested in seeing
nonviolent people put in the cage for the rest of
their life. But I am very much interested in someone
who commits three violent assaults or murders going away forever. Yes,
I am.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
So.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Can we find a reasonable, common sense middle ground that
doesn't say we need to have two to three percent
of the American population behind bars, that doesn't say we
need to have drug users be in prison for twenty
to thirty years. Can we can we find the middle
ground that's reasonable. Ever, it feels like every time I
(30:09):
talk about anything that it's like there's a real obvious
reasonable middle ground here, and I feel like it's gonna
be laughed off. I'm gonna you're soft on crime. Other people,
you're too hard on crime. If this is just common sense,
if you're a violent, dangerous person, you don't ever get
to come out, And if you're not, you shouldn't be
there in the first place. Hey, this is not obviously
(30:32):
and like logically rational. I don't know. Let me know
what you think down below. Leave a comment, tell me
if I'm crazy. But I think that's the obvious answer.
Speaker 4 (30:39):
A white Ukrainian refugee was murdered just because she was white.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Everybody knows that. Obviously.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
If a random white person simply walked up to and
stabbed a nice, law abiding black person for no reason,
it would be an apocalyptically huge national story used to
impose national, sweeping political changes on the whole country. Instead,
Megan Basham, no one seems to care when a white
woman gets stabbed to the death.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Wow, he said white a lot. Well, we aren't talking
about it here. I gotta posit there because there's two
really obvious points that need to be made. First off,
he said white a lot. That's what the lady on
the panel says about Charlie Kirk. Guess who also said
white a lot. Her attacker, the guy who took her life, said,
(31:25):
got that white girl, got that white girl. He said
that twice. Now you can argue he's a crazy person
and he's a lunatic, whatever, whatever, whatever, Regardless, his motivation
was evident. He said, got that white girl, a total stranger,
someone he had never interacted with before. This was within
thirty seconds of the attack. He says, got that white
(31:46):
girl like he was proud. He was proud of what
he had just done, and he knew that he had
committed a heinous act that was likely to take her
life because she had already collapsed the ground. So, look,
you want to put it on Charlie Kirk or any
common that make this racial, but you should start there.
You should start with the fact that the guy, the
black dude who took the white girl's life said, got
(32:08):
that white girl. That's what he said, Not me, not
Charlie Kirk or Shapiro or anybody else. He did. I guess.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
I mean, I don't think that's fair look being in
the system because I have represented people who are mentally ill.
And here's the balance. The balance is taking away people's
free versus evaluating their mental illness. In New York City,
there are a lot of programs for people who are
mentally ill, but they have to want to be.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
There, and.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
To be there when you are mentally ill, you have
a hard time knowing that you are mentally ill.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Secondarily, this talk about how there's a lot of there's
lots of options for mental health, but you have to
want to be there. This is what they're saying on CNN, right,
this is the problem if you are and I say
this is someone who's had mental health issues in his family.
If you have someone who is really in need of
hospitalization that is superman ill and a danger to themselves
(33:01):
or others, Yes, it is very challenging to get them
the help that they need. And most states, especially Democrat
rand states, you have no capacity to get them the
help that they need. That doesn't change the fact that
they need help. And this is the whole reason that
there was a sane asylums back before Ronald Reagan. It's
increasingly hard to argue that we don't need forced care
(33:24):
for those that aren't severely mentally ill or severely drug addicted.
There's a tremendous overlap in that vent diagram, where usually
it's both they're mentally ill and they're drug addicted because
they're self medicating because they don't know how to deal
with their enter demons. Now, in most Democrat states, you
can't do anything about that. And that's the reason that
(33:44):
we have such an epidemic of homelessness and drug addiction.
And that's also the reason that we have an epidemic
of violent crime in these cities, is because you are
letting unhinged, drug addled people rome free. And many of
these people have loved ones that care about them, that
have tried, probably multiple times to get them the help
that they need. But as you said, they have to
(34:07):
go voluntarily. Well, if you're crazy enough, and even if
you're not, if you're just stubborn enough, you're not going
to accept that care. Are we going to continue to
live in a civilization where we just let crazy people
and drug addled people roam the streets and commit violent
acts and do nothing about it until they commit those
violent acts, I guess so.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
But also, I mean, people like Charlie Kirk fan they've
been looking for opportunities to make this some sort of
like reciprocal George Floyd situation. And that's the part that
I think he's almost giving away the game, and it's
sad to see a lot of people going along with it.
Speaker 7 (34:41):
What happened to that young woman was horrible, and it's
everybody's nightmare if you're in any public space, a subway, whatever,
that something bad is going to happen to you or
somebody you care about. So it does strike a chord.
We don't know why that man did what he did,
and for Charlie Kirk to say we know he did
it because she's white, when there's no evidence of that
is just pure race mongering, hate mongering.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It's wrong. Pause it, Hey, Van Jones. If the perpetrator,
if the assailant says got that white girl, what do
you think his motivation was? Did she make his pizza wrong?
Did she deliver the pizza cold? I mean, what are
we talking about. They had no interaction prior there's video.
Do your fucking job. If you're gonna get on air
and comment on this, as I did. I watched it,
(35:27):
So how are you gonna get on there and say
we don't know. So Charlie Kirk is just race baiting.
He's just trying to, you know, start a race war
some bullshit. No, this guy said that, so at least
be honest about it. Good God.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
Then he says that if something like that had happened
the other way, there'd be sweeping changes and polls on society.
Where is the George Floyd Policing Act. It didn't pass.
Even when you had a white police officer murder a
black man on live television, the whole world saw. There
were no sleeping changes. In fact, not one law was
passed at the federal level. Well, that's I think that's
(36:01):
an important thing to point out.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Pause it. We had congressional photo ops where they're like
wearing shadikis and shit or whatever how you pronounce it.
I don't know how you pronounced it. Anyways, you get
the point. You know, African like traditional African garb, and
they're like taking a knee. You had cops all across
the country taking the knee with Black Lives Matter protesters.
You had white people are like fucking kissing their boots
and stuff. It's insane. So you think any of that's
(36:24):
gonna happen for Arena, any of it? The answer is no,
none of it. Nothing's going to happen. In fact, I
mean sure, I think that the guy will be prosecuted,
and God willing, he will be. But if you think
that there's if there are any new sweeping laws, it's
probably going to be under you know, hate crime pretext.
And I don't want to go down this hate crime
path anyways. This tit for tat escalation of you know,
(36:46):
protected classes is not where we need to go. We
need to be treated equally under the law. I don't
know why this is such a profound or unusual statement
to make. We don't need special laws. If you take
a life that's hate, I don't need a hate crime law.
You're still going to go away forever. Why do we
even need to have that type of stuff. It's ridiculous.
(37:06):
When did that happen? I was twenty twenty man who
was the president? Joe Biden? What happened? Bud? So for
the record, I don't think that there should have been
any federal laws that were passed as a consequence of
George Floyd. I think he died of a federal overdose. Now,
you could argue whether or not the cops should have
been on his neck for eight nine minutes. I don't
think they should have. However, if you actually watch the footage,
this is a much more complicated and nuanced story than
(37:30):
you have been told. And I'm sure most of you
already aware because you watch stuff like this, so you're
undoubtedly aware of the footage that demonstrated that he was
put in the back of the police card, that he
asked to be taken out of, the card that he
asked to lay on the ground. So yeah, he definitely
did not cooperate with the police. That still doesn't mean,
in my opinion, that they were justified and kneeling on
his back the way they did as long as they did. Now,
(37:52):
did that contribute to his death? I'm not sure. Would
he have died regardless, I think so probably, But can
I say definitively no, I can't. But it doesn't change
the fact that he did take a lethal amount of
drugs and probably would have died regardless. Yeah, someone did
mention Race, and it wasn't Charlie Kirk. The first person
I mentioned Race was the murderer. So let's be very
(38:13):
clear about that. This is not just some random white
on black crime that people are assuming was race based.
His first sentence, his first two sentences after was got
that white girl. So it's a fair assumption to make
that this was racially motivated, especially given that there was
no impetus for this behavior whatsoever outside of his own words,
(38:35):
which was that. So yeah, I think it's fair to
assume that it was racially motivated. Now does that mean
that I want hate crime laws to try and get
her justice. No, because there are laws on the books
that can get her justice, which is him in prison
forever and if he's reincarnated, put him in prison again forever.
(38:57):
Just monstrous behavior. So, if you've hung on long, we're
going to get to the cancelor part of the show.
These are the statistics that you're not supposed to discuss,
and if you do discuss them, you're immediately accused of
being right beg it and blah blah blah blah blah.
But it doesn't matter because, as you know, I always
just seek out the truth wherever it may lead and
let the chips fall where they may. So here's some
(39:18):
statistics that are extraordinarily disturbing, and it was hard for
me to even believe, but they are true. First off, obviously,
the majority of murders are committed by men. Men are
usually more violent than women on the whole, so that's
not exactly surprising. What is surprising is that Black men,
who are approximately six point five percent of the population,
are responsible for more than half of the murders in America. Now,
(39:41):
you can argue there's disproportional prosecutions and blah blah blah, regardless,
that is a way disproportionate murder rate amongst black men. Now,
let's be very clear. Ninety plus percent, probably ninety nine
percent of Black men in America are not violent. It's
not what I'm trying to say. What I saying is
that most people are not violent. But the majority of
(40:06):
murderers are black men and they are only six point
five percent of the population. That's a conversation that has
to happen, regardless of how it makes you feel or
labels to get placed on you. And let me add,
if you are concerned about black men's well being, you
ought to be concerned about these statistics too. You know why,
because one in twenty one black men will be murdered.
(40:30):
It's four percent or so of Black men will be
murdered in their lifetime. Who will they be murdered by?
Not white men, not Asian men, black men. So before
you hear these statistics and start flipping out and calling
me racist, you might want to ask yourself, is it
racist to deny these statistics given that the victims of
these murders will also be Black men. H Food for thought. Additionally,
(40:52):
I couldn't even believe this, but it is essentially comparable
these numbers because, as I said earlier, men commit the
majority of murders because we are more violent. Sorry it's
a testosterone or whatever the justification is for why more violent.
It's just true. Historically it's always been this way. Well,
here's the statistic that's truly jaw dropping. Black women have
(41:14):
murder rates comparable to white men. So there is a
disproportionate violence problem in the black community versus the overall population.
That's just true. Again, not saying that all black people
are a problem. I'm just saying we have to be
honest about the fact that there is a serious problem,
(41:35):
and there is a ton of black people that would
like for us all of us to start telling the
truth about it, because it is not helping their community
to say, oh, there's nothing, there's no reason for any
of this. There's no similarities between these cases that could
actually explain why some of this is transpiring. Go to
Chicago and talk to some of the ultermen there. If
(41:55):
they won't tell you the truth, I'd be shocked. Well,
the aldermen in Chicago are politicians, I think, so maybe
they wouldn't be honest, But talk to a pastor, maybe
they'd be honest about it. It's a real fucking problem,
and I think that it's time that people just tell
the truth about it. And it doesn't mean that you
have to advocate for you know, Jim Crow and slavery
and deportations or repatriots or whatever you want to call it.
(42:16):
You don't have to advocate for any of that. You
just have to be honest. You just have to tell
the truth. The truth is there's a real problem there,
and if I was a black man in America, I'd
want to fucking tell the truth about it because if
I recognize that there was a four plus percent chance
that I would be murdered by someone who looks like me,
in my lifetime. That's a serious problem. I mean, think
(42:36):
about how high that is. I still can't even believe
it's true. Four out of one hundred black men will
be killed by their fellow African American in their lifetimes.
That's astonishing. Now, I'm sure it's localized and that it's
much higher in like a place like Chicago, it's probably
fifteen to twenty percent, and if it's in rural places,
(42:57):
it's probably back down in normal levels one percent or less.
But my god, four plus percent of black men will
be murdered in their lifetimes. When I read that, it
was just so jaw dropping, so profound, so shocking that
I had to tell you guys about it, regardless of
you know, the fact that I'll be labeled and maybe
even censored for saying it. But that's crazy. That's crazy high.
(43:20):
And just to give you ironclad comparisons so you understand
how crazy high that is, the percentage for white men
zero point eight percent. Now that that's too high. I'm
shocked that it's almost one percent of white men will
be murdered in their lifetimes. That's crazy high too, But
it's still under one percent versus over four percent. I mean,
was that five to six x. That's unbelievable. And we've
(43:43):
been so broudbeaten and so you know, aggressively labeled as
racist for having these conversations that no one wants to
talk about it. No one wants to just tell the truth.
I mean, it's obviously a serious problem. And if you
want to boil it all down to you know, poverty
and racism and trench you know, whatever legacy if parents
got put away for war, andre look, okay, whatever, whatever,
(44:05):
whatever the backdrop is, whatever excuse or explanation you want
to give it, it doesn't change the fact that once
you commit, once you take someone's life, there is no sympathy.
Speaker 8 (44:15):
What we gotta do, if we really want to see
homicides go down, is keep bad guys with guns in jail,
because when they in jail, they can't be in community
shooting people. So when people talk about what we're gonna
do different, or what we should do different, what we
need to do different, that's the thing that we need
to do different. We need to keep violent people in jail.
Right now, the average homicide suspect, the average homicide suspect
(44:37):
has been arrested eleven times prior to them committing a homicide.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
That is a problem. That is a problem. There is
no backstory that I'm really interested in hearing. There's nine.
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look like. I don't give a fuck what God you
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There are a few other vital points that need to
be made that I haven't seen anyone else make, so
I'm going to do it. First off, this attack, this
murder happened on August twenty second. It is September ninth today,
and this story did not see the light of day
until about four days ago, and that was only on
social media, and it was brought to the President's attention
(46:29):
because it went so viral on social media that then
forced the media to cover it. Point being August twenty second,
was nearly three weeks ago. So it's my opinion based
off of how obviously evil and crazy this story is.
This video was suppressed, that this story was not supposed
to get out, and I'll tell you what I think.
(46:49):
I don't know for sure, but it sure looks like
it is that because it was so egregious and because
of what he says in the aftermath got that white girl,
they tried to suppress this story. They tried to not
cover it. Sure they would have prosecuted him, and I'm
sure he would have gone away for decades, but regardless,
they did not want the public to know about this story.
(47:11):
I don't see any other explanation for how this video
gets suppressed for over three weeks or nearly three weeks. Also,
no media coverage. Also, the local politicians were talking about
how they didn't want this to be covered. They didn't
want people to be talking about it because they knew
that it would inflame racial tensions. Was their justification. As
if the George Floyd video wasn't shown on a fucking
(47:35):
loop for months in the summer of twenty twenty, As
if our cities didn't burn down as a consequence of
that video being put on loop for fucking months. But
you can't show this one though? Why double standard?
Speaker 4 (47:49):
Much?
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah? Really disturbing, really infuriating. Second, people continue to refer
to this now as basically any news coverage that's coming
from the liberal rags New York Times. They're they're framing
it as this is creating a you know, an outcry
amongst the right. Why is this partisan? Was she some
(48:10):
hardcore Trump supporter?
Speaker 4 (48:12):
No?
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Actually, Arena had a poster that said Black Lives Matter
on her bedroom door that was hung up. I sincerely
doubt she was a Trump supporter or maga or right
wing at all. Maybe she should have been, she was not.
So why is this partisan? Because she's just white? That's it.
(48:32):
That makes her the other in their in their worldview.
How crazy is that? How absolutely sick is that a
girl who probably would have voted for them just despises
her so much because of her skin that she has
to be a Trump supporter because she's white, or this
story only matters to people on the right because she's white.
(48:52):
It's absurd, it's obscene. Also, they're trying to frame this
as this is uh, you know, Matt is George Floyd moment,
that this is that we're gonna turn this into some
sort of George Floyd thinking, No, no, no, excuse me. First off,
not comparable, okay, not comparable. This is a cold blooded
(49:12):
murder of a total stranger against a total stranger. This
is not a cop that was dealing with a guy
who passed off counterfeit bills, had a lethal dose of
fennel in his system, kneel on his back. Maybe he
contributed to his death. I don't know. It's none of that.
There is no conflating fact variables or confusion here. This
is not a police brutality debate or use of violence
(49:35):
or useful force debate. This is a straight up, no
excuses murder of a white girl. Also, none of the
cops involved in the George Floyd killing were like, got
that black boy. They weren't talking about his race at all.
There's no evidence. If there was any evidence, trust me,
you would have heard about it back then. Never happened,
(49:58):
because I don't think they were racially motivated at all. Actually,
whereas this is so, if you're gonna say that this
is the right wings George Floyd moment, well, actually this
is a real moment because it actually was racially motivated,
whereas yours wasn't. And there is no confusion as to
(50:18):
whether or not this was a murder. I hope, I
hope we can agree on that. I just wanted to
get that off my chest because to describe this as
partisan is sick beyond words. Also, you guys are the
party that argues in favor of you know, women's rights. Right,
you don't want to be in a handsmade tale and
all this bullshit you guys say constantly, Okay, well what
about her right to live? Why am I upset? And
(50:42):
you're not? Have you asked yourself that? Have you thought
about it at all? Are you? Are you questioning your
humanity because you should be. If the first thing you
see when you see a black guy brutally murder a tiny,
little innocent white girl is oh my god, this is
really gonna help Trump. You're fucking nuts, man, You're out.
(51:05):
You've totally totally lost your mind. You have gotten so
deep in the partisan kool aid, you've lost your humanity.
You need to check yourself into a facility. Honestly, like
there's something deeply fucked up. That's all I got to say.
That's it. That's it. That's my venting. Oh man, this
is weird, weird times we're living in. We're surrounded by
(51:29):
homemost crazy people and Democrat crazy people, and some right
wing crazy people and just a whole lot of crazy people.
And we don't have asylums strap in. Oh man, all right,
I didn't expect this one to go so long, So
I'm gonna cut here and do another episode on these
other topics, these you know, potpourri of topics that I
wanted to get into.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:48):
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I managed to make it informative and not just pure
rage baiting, because there's a lot of that going around.
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