June 30, 2025 • 37 mins
EXPOSED: Is Palantir the most dangerous corporation in the world? Uncover the chilling truth about Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, and their AI surveillance empire tied to the CIA, Gaza, Ukraine, and your privacy. From the digital kill chain to government spying, this is the libertarian wake-up call you NEED to hear! #Palantir #AI #privacy https://www.mypillow.com/lockdown GET YOU SOME COZY Check out my show over on Fountain: https://www.fountain.fm/show/nUTYcMtl4yMuoKHljZWu Become a supporting member of Liberty Lockdown here!: https://libertylockdown.locals.com/ This is where I do monthly AMA's for supporting members only Super valuable stuff! Twitter: https://twitter.com/LibertyLockPod All links: https://www.libertylockdownpodcast.com/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/libertylockdown As always, if you leave a five star review on Apple Podcasts with your social media handle I'll read it on next weeks show (audio version only)! Love you long time Liberty Lockdown presents a variety of opinions, sometimes opposing and controversial. They are not representative of the host of the podcast. Guests are encouraged to express their opinions in a safe and equitable environment.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
I got a lot to tell you about. It won't
take a lot of time, and trust me, it is
worth your time. Today we're talking about the most dangerous
corporation in the world, Palenteer.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I feel like that Antichrist would maybe be using the
tools that you were building, right, Like, wouldn't the Antichrist
be like, great, you know, we're not going to have
any more technological progress.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
But I really like what.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Palenteer has done so far, Right, isn't that a concern?
Wouldn't that be the you know, the irony of history
would be that the man publicly worrying about the Antichrist
accidentally hastens his or her arrival.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
They are all these different scenario. I obviously don't think
that that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
We live in our peaceful environments, and they need to
wake up scared and go to bed scared. They want
to know they're safe, and safe means that the other
person is scared.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They want to know they're safe, and the only way
to be safe is for the other person to be scared.
Said every psychopathic, war mongering, neo con techno fascist that's
ever walked the earth. Are you all concerned that you
might be giving rise to the Antichrist, or at least
handing the tools over to the Antichrist, or perhaps creating
the tools that the Antichrist would want to utilize, and
therefore maybe you are in fact him. I don't think
(01:11):
I'm doing that. Full cards on the table. I went
into this not really sure how I felt about Palanteer,
as you guys know, well maybe you don't know. For
those that are new here, I'm a libertarian. My starting
point is always I don't trust the government. Therefore corporations
kind of take a back seat to that. That's not
to say that I will defend every corporation on Earth,
(01:34):
just that they're not usually on my radar. What put
Palenteer on my radar is its incestuous relationship with the government.
In the aftermath of nine to eleven, there was a
tremendous amount of concern about security, needless to say, and
the War on Terror was raging on, and the Patriot
Act was being drafted and passed, and there was a
consensus that attack may have been able to be stopped
(01:57):
if only there had been better communication between I mean,
the intel agencies. Incomes Palenteer. In nineteen ninety eight, Peter Teal,
along with Elon Musk and others, founded PayPal by two
thousand and three. Peter Thiel was a very wealthy man.
I believe he had walked away with somewhere in the
neighborhood of fifty to one hundred million dollars in his
cash out at that time. So by two thousand and
(02:17):
three he's got this idea. The government is terribly inefficient,
as evidenced by their failures that led to the attacks
of nine to eleven. How about a private corporation fills
that gap and fill that gap they did. In two
thousand and three. Pallenteer was founded with approximately thirty million
dollars of Peter Teal's own money. But there was another
(02:38):
minority stake that most people overlooked but actually means everything.
It was two million dollars from.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Q The origin of inq Tel, the CIA's investment division,
traces back to former agency director George Tennant. The goal
investing technologies that will serve US national security interests in
three man categories, software, infrastructure, and material sciences. So how
much cash's inqutel investing? Well, the firm has at least
one hundred and twenty million in government dollars to deploy
(03:04):
every year. Some of its notable investments include Google, which
it since divested from, Pollunteer, which was founded by Peter Teel,
in Data Bricks, which is one of the most valuable
private tech companies. As of twenty sixteen, the company had
three hundred and twenty five investments and kept one hundred
of them secret. According to The Washington Post, any US
entrepreneur working on ways to analyze data better has probably
(03:25):
gotten a phone call from Kutel.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So you probably saying to yourself, But Clint Teal put
in thirty million, mqtel put in two million. Is that
really that big of a deal? Turns out, yeah, it
actually kind of is. As a consequence of them funding
about seven percent of the startup capital, q tel also
created the contact list four Teal and Palenteer that enabled
(03:47):
them to basically get started. Without their relationship to the government,
they would have floundered and flopped. In fact, for the
first decade of their existence, almost all of their contracts
came from the federal government. Now full cards on the table,
I want to root for Peter Teel. He is a
(04:08):
self avowed libertarian who talked about sea steading and bitcoin
and all sorts of things that I like a lot.
So I just want you to be aware of my bias.
I approach this topic wanting to find nothing. I wanted
to come away going well, yeah, I mean, the technology
kind of concerns me, but at least there's a libertarian
that's running it, so I guess I can sleep easy
(04:29):
at night. Tragically, that's not what I found. My only
duty is to the truth and to human liberty. Palenteer, unfortunately,
is a major threat to both. Incomes.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Alex Karp, we partner with the very best in the world,
and when it's necessary to scare enemies and on occasion
kill them. I don't think in win Leeves. I think
in domination. This is a company built for bad times.
Bad times means strong finances. Internally, bad times are very
good for Palentier because we built products that are robust,
that are built for danger.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Pallunteer is built for bad times, and he ain't lying.
If you look at their stock price, he's definitely not lying.
They are crushing I guess that's the advantage of us
being on the cusp of World War three, with the
proxy war in Ukraine and the war in Gaza and
countless other wars, the bombing campaign against Iran, and goodness gracious,
So how did my sweet, sweet libertarian Peter Teel end
(05:25):
up in such a predicament? Well, unfortunately his roommate at
Stanford Law was Alex carb. Now let me be clear,
I am not removing culpability from deal who. After deep
diving this topic for the past thirty days, I've come
to the conclusion that can't really trust him either. However,
there is something particularly jarring about mister Carp.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Americans are the most loving, god fearing, fair, least discriminatory
people on the planet, and they want to know that
if you're waking up and thinking about harming American citizens,
or if American citizens are taken hostage and kept in dungeons,
or if you're a foreign power sending fetanyhl to poison
our people, something really bad is going to happen to
(06:07):
you and your friends and your cousins and your bank
account and your mistress and whoever was involved. We need
to stand up and those people need to be scared.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Those people need to be scared. It's just that simple.
But you'll notice a slip there. He said that they
would go after your friends. So people that commit these
terrible acts, they'll go after your friends and your mistress.
Now I don't know about you, but that's pretty disturbing
to me, and particularly given that he's talking about the
war in Gaza, I think it's very indicative of where
(06:36):
his loyalties lie. And I'll let you decide for yourself
where that may be. Alex does these incredible flowery diatribes
about the West and defending the West, because.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
The most important thing, in my view that can happen
for the preservation of the West and its values is
for the US military to be by far the best.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
In the world. And as a member of the West
and someone who does think that the West is superior
in terms of culture and governance and the people I
love the West, I would like to maintain it. That
does not mean that I am willing to become the
monsters he seeks to slay. And the defense he gives
is so similar to the defense that I see Dave
(07:16):
Smith contending with constantly that it's a moral equivalency. It
is a moral equivalency to even compare the pain and
suffering of the Palestinians and contrasts that with the Israelis
because well, their culture is not as good. That essentially
there is no limit to the death and destruction that
(07:39):
can be brought to bear against people that are not
as good as us, which is eerily reminiscent of George W. Bush.
You're either with us or you're with the terrorists.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor
or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States
is a hostile regime. There's no negotiations, there's no calendar.
We'll act on our time.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
After watching hours of Alex Karp interviews, I have come
to the conclusion that this man is deeply paranoid. It's
almost as if his worldview is trapped within two thousand
and three, the founding of pallenteer as if we just
got hit with the largest terrorist attack ever in our history,
and he hasn't evolved at all, despite the fact that
(08:29):
on the homeland we haven't had an attack in over
twenty years, at least not to that scale.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Oh, time I've bin laden.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You know. I'll tell you the closest thing to an
answer is when you open the paper and look in
the news about these kind of things. There's a two
thirds chance, depending on the country involved, that somehow my
company was involved.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, really think about what he just said there.
Any time you open a newspaper, two thirds of all
of the stories that you read abroad probably had something
to do with Palatier. Now, maybe that's marketing spend, and
maybe it's not. Maybe that's actually how invasive this company
has become and how deeply embedded in the military industrial
(09:11):
complex they now are.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
If you do not feel comfortable supporting the legitimate efforts
of America and its allies in the context of war,
don't join palenteerf created the system which you call kill
chain privately. Publicly, the lawyers have some innocuous sound like
check for the Amelioration of unwanted blah blah blah, some
(09:37):
term we're supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, let's for me, it's the kill chain. Kill chain
sounds good. The other conclusion you come to about mister
Karp after studying him for a while is that he's
not just comfortable with violence. He seems to enjoy it,
to revel in it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Quicker and better and safer and more violent disruption at
the end of the day exposes things that aren't working.
There'll be ups and downs, there's a revolution, some people
get their heads cut off, Like you know, it's like
we're expecting to see really unexpected things and to win.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So if you're not comfortable supporting both America and our
allies when it comes to war specifically, you should not
join Palenteer, which ought to draw you to the conclusion
that in fact this is not just a standard run
of the mill Fortune one hundred corporation, but in fact,
this corporation is dedicated to war fighting. Now, perhaps that
(10:26):
wouldn't be so concerning if it was only used abroad,
despite the fact that it would still concern me. But
for most Americans, it's out of sight, out of mind.
But the unfortunate reality is that in fact, Pallenteer and
its technology is being used domestically and increasingly so. Now,
before I get into that, let's talk a little bit
about the technology that they have. As he described the
(10:48):
kill chain.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Can you imagine if chat GPT decided whether or not
you lived or died. It's terrifying to consider. Unfortunately, it's
more than just a hypothetical question, it's a reality. Nine
to seven to two magazine discovered that this AI program
isn't just a theoretical concept, it actually exists. It's called
(11:09):
Lavender in the Israelis are using it right now in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So how does Lavender work. Well, it's a machine learning
algorithm which essentially takes in a bunch of battlefield data
as well as surveillance data. It combines the two and
then it pushes it through an artificial intelligence analyst to
replace the human analysts that would have done that historically,
and then it just does it in real time to
(11:34):
give them targets in real time on the battlefield, all
predicated off of artificial intelligence. Here's the really scary thing
about it. According to nine seven to two magazine who
did this study, they have a ten percent mis rate,
as in, like, we got it wrong, oops, innocent guy
and his entire family. Because the way these bombing runs
(11:56):
happen is that they actually target the father the suspected terrorist,
until he goes home, so he is there at home
with his family, his kids, whatever, whatever, and in the
middle of the night they drop the bomb.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Lavender is used in conjunction with another program known as
the Gospel. Lavender identifies and targets people it believes to
be suspected militants. The Gospel identifies and targets buildings it
believes to be used by suspected militants.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Now, depending on which resource you trust, there's a very
wide range of estimates as to the deaths of innocence
that have happened in Gaza since the war began twenty
months ago. Some people say it's thirty thousand, Some people
say it's forty or fifty or even sixty thousand. Some
people say it's higher. Obviously, the idea of says it's lower,
but they don't give you a real number, so who knows. Regardless,
(12:46):
the answer is a lot more than zero, like a
lot more than zero. In fact, in twenty fifteen, Vollunteer
opened up an office space in Tel Aviv, so they
actually have operations that run out of Israel. In Ukraine,
the collaboration between Palenteer and Starlink starkly illustrates the profound
impact of integrated technology on warfare. Pallenteer's AI models provide
(13:10):
the Ukrainian military with essential data analytics, transforming raw images
from drone satellites and ground reports into real time actionable intelligence.
This process, which Pallunteer's CEO Karp chillingly refers to as
a quote digital kill chain end quote has become central
to Ukraine's defense strategy, enabling precise targeting and battlefield assessments simultaneously.
(13:30):
Elon musk Starlink ensures uninterrupted communication for Ukrainian forces, maintaining
a continuous flow of critical information vital for modern warfare. Now,
with all that being said, there has been massive casualties
in Ukraine on both sides of that war. There have
been massive casualties in Gaza. Once again, on both sides
of that war. However, much more on one side. It
(13:52):
just so happens that the side that's being devastated right
now seems to be at the mercy of Palenteer's technology.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
We built PG which single handedly stopped the rise of
the far right in Europe. We built Foundry, which is
used to distribute the COVID vaccine and saved millions of
lives globally. We built what we call multi constellation and
what's often called the digital kill chain and their category
defining products.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
So when you deliver these products in the.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Market, honestly, people say this isn't going to exist. This
isn't valuable, but then it changes the market, and then
the market is the Palantier market. Now that doesn't mean
everyone in the world's going to buy our product, but
it means most of the sensible people in the world
are going to buy from the category we defined.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So he's saying it openly. They use that technology to
suppress the scare quotes far right in Europe, which far
right in Europe is basically maga, It's like not far
right at all. Then he also brags about Foundry, which
was used to track the COVID rollout, the v rollout,
(14:57):
and last but not least, the digital kill chain. So
their entire lineup is just a litany of products I
don't have any interest in.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
Palenteer is working with the IAEA and is supplying their
software for use in the IAEA's Mosaic program, and I
did find this from Bloomberg from twenty eighteen. Peter Teel
and Palenteer are at the heart of the Iran nuclear
deal and they talk about the relationship between Palenteer and
(15:27):
the IAEA and how they are providing their AI whatever
algorithmic big data analysis software for the IAEA to come
up with its assessments.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The question is why.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
Now, well, obviously Israel would take any excuse that they
can get. But the explicit excuse that appeared on the
table was this ia EA updated assessment which led to
the IAEA actually censuring I ran over non cooperation or
whatever phrase they used. And where did this report come from?
While it seems, at at least to some extent it
(16:01):
has been informed by Palenteer data. So yes, there is
an answer which should be very concerning to all of
us who are concerned, as you say, at least about
the specter of Whopper and the war games of the
future and the ability of some AI enabled assessment to
send the world plunging into World War three.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
But also so, just as Alex carp bragged about earlier
about two thirds of every news story you read when
it comes to international relations, it looks like Palenteer actually
does have that level of impact. Now, if that's the
only impact they had, still I think most Americans probably
wouldn't care. Okay, so a bunch of innocent people are
getting poo pooed like, well, you know what's new, But
(16:45):
unfortunately it doesn't stop there. In fact, Peter Teel and
his fortune partially because of Palenteer is responsible not just
for monstrous campaign contributions to Donald Trump helped him get
into the White House and sixteen, but also his hand
picked guy is Jade Vance, who he cut a check
(17:06):
of five million dollars for his Senate race. He also
backed him for the VP slot under Trump this last
go around. So to say that they have influence is
to put it mildly. And seeing as I've now noticed
the connection between Pallenteer and some of these atrocities, I'm
not the only one that has noticed this. In fact,
(17:26):
mister carp and mister Teel are being called out for
their participation in it, and they are not handling this
line of questioning very well.
Speaker 10 (17:33):
So what do you think about the use of artificial
intelligence or lavender by the IDF in identifying hamas targets?
Speaker 11 (17:43):
Look, I'm not I'm not, you know, I you know,
with without without going into all the you know, I'm
not on top of all the details of us going
on in Israel because my my bias is to defer
to Israel.
Speaker 12 (17:58):
It's not for us to second guess every everything. And uh,
I believe that broadly the IDEF gets to decide what
it wants to do, and that they're broadly in the right.
And that's that's sort of the perspective I come back to.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
A few people get wealthy.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Oh yeah, and you know, well, if you so, the
primary source of death in Palestine is the fact that
Hamas has realized that there are millions and millions of
useful idiots that will can we get security up there?
(18:51):
But one of the okay, one of the most okay,
mostly type Harris, that's true. Okay, if your argument was
so strong, wouldn't you let me talk? It's so strong,
(19:12):
it's so strong, it's so strong your argument is that's
thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Fortuning for the record, I'm not connecting dots that don't exist.
Here's a post from Pallenteer just a couple of years ago,
from at Pallunteer Tech on x on October eleventh of
twenty twenty three. So, so, just a few days after
the attacks of October seventh, you have them saying certain
kinds of evil can only be fought with force. Palunteer
(19:39):
stands with Israel, so it's not exactly a mystery as
to which side they stand with, in which side they
are helping and destroying Now, normally I wouldn't be freaking
out about all this, but it happens to be that
the President of the United States and JD. Vance and
Elon Musk and Speaker Mike Johnson were all at the
I think it was the super now it was the
(20:01):
Army Navy game, and on the JumboTron flashed an image
of these four gentlemen along with the logo of Palanteer.
Given their connections, that became a quickly iconic photograph. And
as I keep saying, this is not just a technology
being used abroad, it is also being used domestically. As
Elon Musk famously came in to the White House or
(20:25):
the Administration for a few months and Doge, the Department
of Governmental Efficiency, was responsible for connecting a lot of
these dots when it comes to differences between the Treasury, Department,
the Irs, all of the three letter agencies. Essentially, he
comes in and he says, we're going to make this
more efficient. As good as that sounds to me, because
(20:46):
I am a libertarian and I like small government. I
like efficient government. If there's a government at all, I'd
like it to be that small that it doesn't even
really matter if it's efficient. But if it's going to
be as large as this thing is and they're going
to tax me as much as they do, I would
like them to do a better job. But now that
I understand exactly what Palanteer does, the fact that that
is the software that they provide, that they take in
(21:06):
all of this data, all of our data, and then
they cross reference it and they make the data usable
to these three letter agencies which are ultimately in a
position of power, some of which are in a position
of power to imprison me, like the irs. And now
I'm starting to better understand the concerns of the Whitney
Webs of the world, who has famously been talking about
(21:28):
this for a very long time. Yeah.
Speaker 13 (21:30):
So Total Information Awareness was defunded by Congress not long
after it was launched because every mainstream media outlet, the
ACLU and organizations like it across the board said this
will end privacy for American It was going to basically
spy on all Americans Total Information Awareness right and decide
(21:50):
who was going to commit a crime before it happened. Yes,
terror attacks before it happened, bioterror, even pandemics before they happen,
Which is why a lot of the policies originally Total
Information Awareness proposed, came back during the Trump administration during COVID,
and Pallenteer was the contractor for all of those What
do you know, They're.
Speaker 14 (22:10):
Going to use every telephone call you ever make, every
text you every make, every Google search, every website you
ever go to. They have a way of collecting all
of that data and they put it into a database
on you, and they have this kind of capability. And
so immediately after this was invented, You're right, all these
(22:31):
organizations pushed back against it. So the government said, Okay,
we're not going to do it anymore. But then Paluneer
was like, well we'll do it. And let me just
start by saying, Whitney, I'm sorry, I beg your pardon.
Yes I did vote for Donald Trump, and yes I
was aware of Palenteer, but no, I did not buy
(22:51):
or believe your hypothesis that they would in fact have
so much access to this White House. I mean, giving
a can campaign contribution is one thing. Having this level
of control and implementation into the government is another. So
in other words, yes, I was nervous. However, I was
(23:12):
also cautiously optimistic. But once you understand exactly how palanteer works,
and then you realize that, oh, CIA is using this,
the FBI is using this, the IRS is using this,
the Treasury Department's using this, Social Security is using this,
INS is using this.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
It's like, oh my goodness, what have we done?
Speaker 12 (23:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
There are some aspects of this technology that people on
the right are going to like, For instance, palnteer is
being used to help round up and deport illegal immigrants.
So you're not going to get any protests from the
right wingers when it comes to that use of this technology.
I think the only way that you're going to convince
them that this is actually a cause that they ought
(23:51):
to be concerned about is to connect the dots that. Sure,
right now, it's being used against Palestinians, which many of
you don't care about, it's using against immigrants many of
you don't care about. What about when it gets used
against you, like when you're dodging your taxes, and suddenly
palenteer is using the connections between the Treasury Department and
Social Security and other entities, and they're ultimately able to
(24:13):
connect these dots and now you maybe going to jail.
Even better than that, let's hypothesize about, say a couple
of years from now there's a president Alexandria Cassio Cortez.
How would you feel about it then? Because I know
you guys trust Trump, but what about if it was
Joe Biden or AOC or who knows Bernie Sanders. You're
(24:35):
gonna feel good then that Palenteer has all of your
information and they're connecting all of these dots and ultimately
feeding it to all of these agencies that have the
ability to throw you in jail. I think the obvious
answer is no, you shouldn't feel good about that, and
an ought to concern the hell out of you, because
it concerns the hell out of me. This issue is
getting so big that even a stand up comic like
(24:57):
Theo Vaughn who's interviewing jd Vance, the Vice President of
the United States, is asking him direct questions about thel
Palenteer and his connections to them.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
This is the Palenteer company where they're going to build
security databases that have all of our information in right,
that's what you're saying, Yeah, and it's going to have
like everything. It'll like look at you and know like
if you're good at tennis or if you have sixty
dollars in your pocket.
Speaker 10 (25:20):
I hear that story, and my reaction is the same,
which is, oh, I don't like the government having my information.
The reality is the government already has my information, and
more importantly, some of these private technology companies have way
more information on me than the government does.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Now it's obvious we are rapidly sliding into oblivion. That
you're getting harder hitting questions from a stand up comic
like THEO Vaughn than you would get from Rachel Maddow
or any other Fox News host for that matter. But
shout out to THEO Vaughn asking a real question and
putting jd Vance under the gun, because the truth is
that Jade Vance's relationship to Peter Tiel is profoundly deep.
(25:57):
And I'll let you guys decide if it's profoundly concerned.
It is profoundly concerning for me now that I understand
what Palnteer does and how it does it, but for
you maybe not so much. It's not as if there
aren't hundreds or thousands of corporations that have influence over politicians.
I would just advise you to contrast the Palentteer donations
(26:20):
through teal to Trump and Dvance, and contrast that to
other corporations and how much they give to politicians, and
then contrast that with the government contracts that pallunteer receives,
which is still the lion's share of their revenue. And
then contrast that with the increasing amount of responsibility and
data access and surveillance technology that they have. And then
(26:43):
you might come to the same conclusion that I have
that this is fucking crazy. And if I still haven't
convinced you, let's listen to my buddy Ian Carroll as
he explains it.
Speaker 15 (26:51):
This won't just get used on critics of the Trump administration.
This will get used on critics of every future American
government until the end of a America, because that's how
government works. Once you give them a power, they never
give it back. And we are entering into territory from
which there is no return. And inflaming leftist talking points
are both unnecessary and not the move. This is not
(27:14):
a part of an issue. In fact, this is a
deeply anti American issue. And I'm sure I don't need
to explain to a conservative why having AI watching you
at all times and doling out social credit scores is
a bad thing.
Speaker 12 (27:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Obviously I've gone extra hard on mister Carp, but I
gotta say, after watching hours of Peter Thiel interviews as
I prepared to do this episode for you guys, I
came to the conclusion that he is also extraordinarily strange.
In fact, in this interview just earlier this week, he's
asked specifically if he wants human beings to continue to
(27:49):
exist after AI takes over, and he pauses for a
long time, as if this is something he's really not
sure about, to which I say, what the dude, what
are you doing? You would prefer the human race to endure? Right?
Speaker 15 (28:05):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Well, yes, I don't know.
Speaker 13 (28:09):
I I would.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I would so long hesitation, there's so many questions in playes,
shouldn't the human race survive? U?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, okay, but but uh I I also would like
us to radically solve these problems.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And uh and so you know, it's always I don't know,
you know, yeah, transhumanism is this, you know, the ideal
was this radical transformation where your human natural body gets
transformed into an immortal body.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So it's obvious to me that mister Teal is a transhumanist,
that he believes that we have to lower government regulations
so that we can create these innovations that allow for
life extension, et cetera, et cetera. Which I'm okay with
life extension. I would like to live longer. Who wouldn't, right,
But he takes it to a level that is deeply concerning,
(29:03):
where you get to the point where you're so convinced
that the advancement of technology and innovation is paramount to
all else that if it means that we have to
no longer exist, well, then it sounds like you're okay
with it. So while mister KRP is much more overt
in his disdain for anyone who's not him, mister Teal
(29:26):
is a little bit more secret about it, but it
does seem that he also has kind of a break
a billion eggs to make an omelet type of mentality.
Oh and also, Pete, anytime someone asks you if you
want humanity to survive, the answer is fucking yes. Do
I need to be your PR coach? What the fuck
(29:47):
are you thinking? So to recap, we've got Peter Teal,
who is a transhumanist who also isn't sure if humanity
needs to survive because it might impede in technological progress,
as if technological progress is more important than him us humanity.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
What the all?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Right? Anyways, I gotta get past that one. And then
you've got Alex Karp, who is, in my opinion, my
very humble opinion, after dozens of hours of watching this
guy and reading about him, is a psychopath. Sorry, I'm
not going to mince my words. I think he's a psychopath.
I'm not a doctor. I can't diagnose it. I'm just
telling you he strikes me as a very dangerous human being.
(30:31):
He has all of the hallmarks of a neo conservative
and a sociopath, if not a psychopath, dangerous, dangerous guy. Now,
for those that aren't aware, Peter Thiel he is the
funding and one of the founders and also obviously a
big shareholder still of Palanteer. He is not the day
to day guy. Karp is the day to day guy,
(30:52):
and I am very concerned about mister Karp.
Speaker 16 (30:55):
It's the most effective way for social changes. Humiliate your
enemy and make them poorer, and that's how social change
actually happens.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Setting aside the weirdness with deal, which is also worth noting,
so the two primary players inside of Palenteer are very
strange and very dangerous people in my opinion. But even
if they weren't, this is still a technology that's extraordinarily dangerous.
Oh and might I add that it is almost certainly
(31:28):
a CIA front. And I think the biggest thing to
take away from all of this is that if you
guys remember the censorship regime that happened under the Biden
administration when it came to Facebook and Instagram and Twitter.
It was Twitter at the time other social media platforms too, YouTube,
where there was back channeling from the Biden administration telling
(31:50):
them what to censor. And the reason they did it
that way is because it's against the constitution if the
government censors you. However, if they can circumvent that and
make it so that they're just applying pressure, this coercive
pressure to private institutions, they can do things that the
government can't. And I think that's exactly why in q
(32:11):
Tel exists, is that they fund businesses to do deeds
that they can't do, at least not legally. Now, there
has been Supreme Court precedent in the past it says
even if they do this, that's still unconstitutional because they're
trying to circumvent our rights. But that doesn't mean that
the Supreme Court will stand up or that it'll even
(32:31):
ever be seen or heard in front of the Supreme Court.
So I think at this point that's kind of how
I perceive Paalentteer. It is a mechanism to circumvent the
Bill of Rights, our privacy rights, our speech rights, et cetera.
And I think the overarching point is that even if
this wasn't Palenteer, even if Alex carp wasn't the guy
(32:54):
or deal, that's not really the key point here. The
key point is those who would give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin one of our founding fathers, and now my
(33:14):
normal audience is very libertarian, and I would guess, given
the nature of this topic, I will have a lot
of non libertarians that watch this episode. But I would
still apply that same message to you. Even if you
want the government to be used against your enemies, it
will be used against you, be it the Trump administration
versus the left or the AOC administration versus the right.
(33:38):
This should not be partisan. If you care about your freedoms,
your free speech, your due process, your privacy rights. Everybody
should be on the same page here, and every time
you hear about the Trump administration or any future administration
granting more funding to an institution like Palaeer, it doesn't
(34:01):
even have to be Palenteer. It could be some new
inq Tel funded spinoff. Your immediate instinct ought to be
on guard, and your call to action is to oppose it,
to be loud about it, and to let your elected
officials know that if they vote for this stuff, they
go bye by via the voting box. Obviously, Palenteer to
(34:22):
me is essentially the AI version, the modern version of Blackwater, Halliburton, Boeing,
Northrop Grumman, all of the military industrial complex corporations which
made a fortune off of the War on Terror. And
as the war drums beat louder, as we inch ever
closer to the potential for a world war, you ought
(34:45):
to expect that companies like Palenteer are going to get
more and more funding and more and more power, and
they're going to do it in more and more nefarious
and secretive ways, and it's going to be hard to track,
just as Blackwater once changed its name, for instance, this
is a problem that is not going away. In fact,
AI is a problem all on its own, which I
(35:06):
may do an episode in the future about. If you'd
like me to do that, drop a comment down below.
But even setting aside the inherent dangers that can come
along with the advent and the improvement of artificial intelligence,
Palenteer is doing things that are by their very nature
a danger to you and I. For those that are
new here, I just set up this studio after moving
(35:30):
a couple months ago, six weeks ago, and dumped a
ton of money into it. Obviously, this has been a
labor of love for me, a passion project. I poured
my soul into this one. So all I ask of
you is two things. One, pick up your phone right
now and subscribe to Liberty Lockdown. In fact, better than that,
pick up everybody you knows phone and so subscribe to
(35:50):
Liberty Lockdown on whatever platform you're watching or listening to.
Obviously it's on Apple, Podcasts, Spotify, all over the place.
And Two, if you found any aspect of this interesting,
which you probably did, because if you didn't, then I
really did a bad job. But I didn't. I crushed it.
Let's be honest. If you can take clips, share, them
on your own social media, or just send the link
(36:11):
out to your friends and family and just force them
to watch it, as you've now recognized the same existential
threat that Palanteer represents that I recognize a few weeks ago.
And last but not least as always, click that like button, subscribe,
leave a comment down below, and hug and kiss your mother,
your grandma, your father, your children, whoever, your girlfriend, your wife,
(36:35):
your husband. I'm being very inclusive today. Thank you guys
so much for tuning in. My name is Clint Russell.
If you like to support my work, there's links in
the description down below you can subscribe and uh yeah,
we're out of here. Pease. We have a lot of
individual investors on the line.
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Is there anything you'd like to say before we in
the call?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
We're doing it. We're doing it, and I'm sure you're
enjoying this as much as I am.
I got a lot to tell you about. It won't
take a lot of time, and trust me, it is
worth your time. Today we're talking about the most dangerous
corporation in the world, Palenteer.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I feel like that Antichrist would maybe be using the
tools that you were building, right, Like, wouldn't the Antichrist
be like, great, you know, we're not going to have
any more technological progress.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
But I really like what.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Palenteer has done so far, Right, isn't that a concern?
Wouldn't that be the you know, the irony of history
would be that the man publicly worrying about the Antichrist
accidentally hastens his or her arrival.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
They are all these different scenario. I obviously don't think
that that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
We live in our peaceful environments, and they need to
wake up scared and go to bed scared. They want
to know they're safe, and safe means that the other
person is scared.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
They want to know they're safe, and the only way
to be safe is for the other person to be scared.
Said every psychopathic, war mongering, neo con techno fascist that's
ever walked the earth. Are you all concerned that you
might be giving rise to the Antichrist, or at least
handing the tools over to the Antichrist, or perhaps creating
the tools that the Antichrist would want to utilize, and
therefore maybe you are in fact him. I don't think
(01:11):
I'm doing that. Full cards on the table. I went
into this not really sure how I felt about Palanteer,
as you guys know, well maybe you don't know. For
those that are new here, I'm a libertarian. My starting
point is always I don't trust the government. Therefore corporations
kind of take a back seat to that. That's not
to say that I will defend every corporation on Earth,
(01:34):
just that they're not usually on my radar. What put
Palenteer on my radar is its incestuous relationship with the government.
In the aftermath of nine to eleven, there was a
tremendous amount of concern about security, needless to say, and
the War on Terror was raging on, and the Patriot
Act was being drafted and passed, and there was a
consensus that attack may have been able to be stopped
(01:57):
if only there had been better communication between I mean,
the intel agencies. Incomes Palenteer. In nineteen ninety eight, Peter Teal,
along with Elon Musk and others, founded PayPal by two
thousand and three. Peter Thiel was a very wealthy man.
I believe he had walked away with somewhere in the
neighborhood of fifty to one hundred million dollars in his
cash out at that time. So by two thousand and
(02:17):
three he's got this idea. The government is terribly inefficient,
as evidenced by their failures that led to the attacks
of nine to eleven. How about a private corporation fills
that gap and fill that gap they did. In two
thousand and three. Pallenteer was founded with approximately thirty million
dollars of Peter Teal's own money. But there was another
(02:38):
minority stake that most people overlooked but actually means everything.
It was two million dollars from.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Q The origin of inq Tel, the CIA's investment division,
traces back to former agency director George Tennant. The goal
investing technologies that will serve US national security interests in
three man categories, software, infrastructure, and material sciences. So how
much cash's inqutel investing? Well, the firm has at least
one hundred and twenty million in government dollars to deploy
(03:04):
every year. Some of its notable investments include Google, which
it since divested from, Pollunteer, which was founded by Peter Teel,
in Data Bricks, which is one of the most valuable
private tech companies. As of twenty sixteen, the company had
three hundred and twenty five investments and kept one hundred
of them secret. According to The Washington Post, any US
entrepreneur working on ways to analyze data better has probably
(03:25):
gotten a phone call from Kutel.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
So you probably saying to yourself, But Clint Teal put
in thirty million, mqtel put in two million. Is that
really that big of a deal? Turns out, yeah, it
actually kind of is. As a consequence of them funding
about seven percent of the startup capital, q tel also
created the contact list four Teal and Palenteer that enabled
(03:47):
them to basically get started. Without their relationship to the government,
they would have floundered and flopped. In fact, for the
first decade of their existence, almost all of their contracts
came from the federal government. Now full cards on the table,
I want to root for Peter Teel. He is a
(04:08):
self avowed libertarian who talked about sea steading and bitcoin
and all sorts of things that I like a lot.
So I just want you to be aware of my bias.
I approach this topic wanting to find nothing. I wanted
to come away going well, yeah, I mean, the technology
kind of concerns me, but at least there's a libertarian
that's running it, so I guess I can sleep easy
(04:29):
at night. Tragically, that's not what I found. My only
duty is to the truth and to human liberty. Palenteer, unfortunately,
is a major threat to both. Incomes.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Alex Karp, we partner with the very best in the world,
and when it's necessary to scare enemies and on occasion
kill them. I don't think in win Leeves. I think
in domination. This is a company built for bad times.
Bad times means strong finances. Internally, bad times are very
good for Palentier because we built products that are robust,
that are built for danger.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Pallunteer is built for bad times, and he ain't lying.
If you look at their stock price, he's definitely not lying.
They are crushing I guess that's the advantage of us
being on the cusp of World War three, with the
proxy war in Ukraine and the war in Gaza and
countless other wars, the bombing campaign against Iran, and goodness gracious,
So how did my sweet, sweet libertarian Peter Teel end
(05:25):
up in such a predicament? Well, unfortunately his roommate at
Stanford Law was Alex carb. Now let me be clear,
I am not removing culpability from deal who. After deep
diving this topic for the past thirty days, I've come
to the conclusion that can't really trust him either. However,
there is something particularly jarring about mister Carp.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Americans are the most loving, god fearing, fair, least discriminatory
people on the planet, and they want to know that
if you're waking up and thinking about harming American citizens,
or if American citizens are taken hostage and kept in dungeons,
or if you're a foreign power sending fetanyhl to poison
our people, something really bad is going to happen to
(06:07):
you and your friends and your cousins and your bank
account and your mistress and whoever was involved. We need
to stand up and those people need to be scared.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Those people need to be scared. It's just that simple.
But you'll notice a slip there. He said that they
would go after your friends. So people that commit these
terrible acts, they'll go after your friends and your mistress.
Now I don't know about you, but that's pretty disturbing
to me, and particularly given that he's talking about the
war in Gaza, I think it's very indicative of where
(06:36):
his loyalties lie. And I'll let you decide for yourself
where that may be. Alex does these incredible flowery diatribes
about the West and defending the West, because.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
The most important thing, in my view that can happen
for the preservation of the West and its values is
for the US military to be by far the best.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
In the world. And as a member of the West
and someone who does think that the West is superior
in terms of culture and governance and the people I
love the West, I would like to maintain it. That
does not mean that I am willing to become the
monsters he seeks to slay. And the defense he gives
is so similar to the defense that I see Dave
(07:16):
Smith contending with constantly that it's a moral equivalency. It
is a moral equivalency to even compare the pain and
suffering of the Palestinians and contrasts that with the Israelis
because well, their culture is not as good. That essentially
there is no limit to the death and destruction that
(07:39):
can be brought to bear against people that are not
as good as us, which is eerily reminiscent of George W. Bush.
You're either with us or you're with the terrorists.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
Either you are with us or you are with the terrorists.
From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor
or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States
is a hostile regime. There's no negotiations, there's no calendar.
We'll act on our time.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
After watching hours of Alex Karp interviews, I have come
to the conclusion that this man is deeply paranoid. It's
almost as if his worldview is trapped within two thousand
and three, the founding of pallenteer as if we just
got hit with the largest terrorist attack ever in our history,
and he hasn't evolved at all, despite the fact that
(08:29):
on the homeland we haven't had an attack in over
twenty years, at least not to that scale.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Oh, time I've bin laden.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
You know. I'll tell you the closest thing to an
answer is when you open the paper and look in
the news about these kind of things. There's a two
thirds chance, depending on the country involved, that somehow my
company was involved.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I mean, really think about what he just said there.
Any time you open a newspaper, two thirds of all
of the stories that you read abroad probably had something
to do with Palatier. Now, maybe that's marketing spend, and
maybe it's not. Maybe that's actually how invasive this company
has become and how deeply embedded in the military industrial
(09:11):
complex they now are.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
If you do not feel comfortable supporting the legitimate efforts
of America and its allies in the context of war,
don't join palenteerf created the system which you call kill
chain privately. Publicly, the lawyers have some innocuous sound like
check for the Amelioration of unwanted blah blah blah, some
(09:37):
term we're supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Okay, let's for me, it's the kill chain. Kill chain
sounds good. The other conclusion you come to about mister
Karp after studying him for a while is that he's
not just comfortable with violence. He seems to enjoy it,
to revel in it.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Quicker and better and safer and more violent disruption at
the end of the day exposes things that aren't working.
There'll be ups and downs, there's a revolution, some people
get their heads cut off, Like you know, it's like
we're expecting to see really unexpected things and to win.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
So if you're not comfortable supporting both America and our
allies when it comes to war specifically, you should not
join Palenteer, which ought to draw you to the conclusion
that in fact this is not just a standard run
of the mill Fortune one hundred corporation, but in fact,
this corporation is dedicated to war fighting. Now, perhaps that
(10:26):
wouldn't be so concerning if it was only used abroad,
despite the fact that it would still concern me. But
for most Americans, it's out of sight, out of mind.
But the unfortunate reality is that in fact, Pallenteer and
its technology is being used domestically and increasingly so. Now,
before I get into that, let's talk a little bit
about the technology that they have. As he described the
(10:48):
kill chain.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Can you imagine if chat GPT decided whether or not
you lived or died. It's terrifying to consider. Unfortunately, it's
more than just a hypothetical question, it's a reality. Nine
to seven to two magazine discovered that this AI program
isn't just a theoretical concept, it actually exists. It's called
(11:09):
Lavender in the Israelis are using it right now in Gaza.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
So how does Lavender work. Well, it's a machine learning
algorithm which essentially takes in a bunch of battlefield data
as well as surveillance data. It combines the two and
then it pushes it through an artificial intelligence analyst to
replace the human analysts that would have done that historically,
and then it just does it in real time to
(11:34):
give them targets in real time on the battlefield, all
predicated off of artificial intelligence. Here's the really scary thing
about it. According to nine seven to two magazine who
did this study, they have a ten percent mis rate,
as in, like, we got it wrong, oops, innocent guy
and his entire family. Because the way these bombing runs
(11:56):
happen is that they actually target the father the suspected terrorist,
until he goes home, so he is there at home
with his family, his kids, whatever, whatever, and in the
middle of the night they drop the bomb.
Speaker 8 (12:11):
Lavender is used in conjunction with another program known as
the Gospel. Lavender identifies and targets people it believes to
be suspected militants. The Gospel identifies and targets buildings it
believes to be used by suspected militants.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Now, depending on which resource you trust, there's a very
wide range of estimates as to the deaths of innocence
that have happened in Gaza since the war began twenty
months ago. Some people say it's thirty thousand, Some people
say it's forty or fifty or even sixty thousand. Some
people say it's higher. Obviously, the idea of says it's lower,
but they don't give you a real number, so who knows. Regardless,
(12:46):
the answer is a lot more than zero, like a
lot more than zero. In fact, in twenty fifteen, Vollunteer
opened up an office space in Tel Aviv, so they
actually have operations that run out of Israel. In Ukraine,
the collaboration between Palenteer and Starlink starkly illustrates the profound
impact of integrated technology on warfare. Pallenteer's AI models provide
(13:10):
the Ukrainian military with essential data analytics, transforming raw images
from drone satellites and ground reports into real time actionable intelligence.
This process, which Pallunteer's CEO Karp chillingly refers to as
a quote digital kill chain end quote has become central
to Ukraine's defense strategy, enabling precise targeting and battlefield assessments simultaneously.
(13:30):
Elon musk Starlink ensures uninterrupted communication for Ukrainian forces, maintaining
a continuous flow of critical information vital for modern warfare. Now,
with all that being said, there has been massive casualties
in Ukraine on both sides of that war. There have
been massive casualties in Gaza. Once again, on both sides
of that war. However, much more on one side. It
(13:52):
just so happens that the side that's being devastated right
now seems to be at the mercy of Palenteer's technology.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
We built PG which single handedly stopped the rise of
the far right in Europe. We built Foundry, which is
used to distribute the COVID vaccine and saved millions of
lives globally. We built what we call multi constellation and
what's often called the digital kill chain and their category
defining products.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
So when you deliver these products in the.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Market, honestly, people say this isn't going to exist. This
isn't valuable, but then it changes the market, and then
the market is the Palantier market. Now that doesn't mean
everyone in the world's going to buy our product, but
it means most of the sensible people in the world
are going to buy from the category we defined.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So he's saying it openly. They use that technology to
suppress the scare quotes far right in Europe, which far
right in Europe is basically maga, It's like not far
right at all. Then he also brags about Foundry, which
was used to track the COVID rollout, the v rollout,
(14:57):
and last but not least, the digital kill chain. So
their entire lineup is just a litany of products I
don't have any interest in.
Speaker 9 (15:06):
Palenteer is working with the IAEA and is supplying their
software for use in the IAEA's Mosaic program, and I
did find this from Bloomberg from twenty eighteen. Peter Teel
and Palenteer are at the heart of the Iran nuclear
deal and they talk about the relationship between Palenteer and
(15:27):
the IAEA and how they are providing their AI whatever
algorithmic big data analysis software for the IAEA to come
up with its assessments.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The question is why.
Speaker 9 (15:40):
Now, well, obviously Israel would take any excuse that they
can get. But the explicit excuse that appeared on the
table was this ia EA updated assessment which led to
the IAEA actually censuring I ran over non cooperation or
whatever phrase they used. And where did this report come from?
While it seems, at at least to some extent it
(16:01):
has been informed by Palenteer data. So yes, there is
an answer which should be very concerning to all of
us who are concerned, as you say, at least about
the specter of Whopper and the war games of the
future and the ability of some AI enabled assessment to
send the world plunging into World War three.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
But also so, just as Alex carp bragged about earlier
about two thirds of every news story you read when
it comes to international relations, it looks like Palenteer actually
does have that level of impact. Now, if that's the
only impact they had, still I think most Americans probably
wouldn't care. Okay, so a bunch of innocent people are
getting poo pooed like, well, you know what's new, But
(16:45):
unfortunately it doesn't stop there. In fact, Peter Teel and
his fortune partially because of Palenteer is responsible not just
for monstrous campaign contributions to Donald Trump helped him get
into the White House and sixteen, but also his hand
picked guy is Jade Vance, who he cut a check
(17:06):
of five million dollars for his Senate race. He also
backed him for the VP slot under Trump this last
go around. So to say that they have influence is
to put it mildly. And seeing as I've now noticed
the connection between Pallenteer and some of these atrocities, I'm
not the only one that has noticed this. In fact,
(17:26):
mister carp and mister Teel are being called out for
their participation in it, and they are not handling this
line of questioning very well.
Speaker 10 (17:33):
So what do you think about the use of artificial
intelligence or lavender by the IDF in identifying hamas targets?
Speaker 11 (17:43):
Look, I'm not I'm not, you know, I you know,
with without without going into all the you know, I'm
not on top of all the details of us going
on in Israel because my my bias is to defer
to Israel.
Speaker 12 (17:58):
It's not for us to second guess every everything. And uh,
I believe that broadly the IDEF gets to decide what
it wants to do, and that they're broadly in the right.
And that's that's sort of the perspective I come back to.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
A few people get wealthy.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Oh yeah, and you know, well, if you so, the
primary source of death in Palestine is the fact that
Hamas has realized that there are millions and millions of
useful idiots that will can we get security up there?
(18:51):
But one of the okay, one of the most okay,
mostly type Harris, that's true. Okay, if your argument was
so strong, wouldn't you let me talk? It's so strong,
(19:12):
it's so strong, it's so strong your argument is that's
thank you.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Fortuning for the record, I'm not connecting dots that don't exist.
Here's a post from Pallenteer just a couple of years ago,
from at Pallunteer Tech on x on October eleventh of
twenty twenty three. So, so, just a few days after
the attacks of October seventh, you have them saying certain
kinds of evil can only be fought with force. Palunteer
(19:39):
stands with Israel, so it's not exactly a mystery as
to which side they stand with, in which side they
are helping and destroying Now, normally I wouldn't be freaking
out about all this, but it happens to be that
the President of the United States and JD. Vance and
Elon Musk and Speaker Mike Johnson were all at the
I think it was the super now it was the
(20:01):
Army Navy game, and on the JumboTron flashed an image
of these four gentlemen along with the logo of Palanteer.
Given their connections, that became a quickly iconic photograph. And
as I keep saying, this is not just a technology
being used abroad, it is also being used domestically. As
Elon Musk famously came in to the White House or
(20:25):
the Administration for a few months and Doge, the Department
of Governmental Efficiency, was responsible for connecting a lot of
these dots when it comes to differences between the Treasury, Department,
the Irs, all of the three letter agencies. Essentially, he
comes in and he says, we're going to make this
more efficient. As good as that sounds to me, because
(20:46):
I am a libertarian and I like small government. I
like efficient government. If there's a government at all, I'd
like it to be that small that it doesn't even
really matter if it's efficient. But if it's going to
be as large as this thing is and they're going
to tax me as much as they do, I would
like them to do a better job. But now that
I understand exactly what Palanteer does, the fact that that
is the software that they provide, that they take in
(21:06):
all of this data, all of our data, and then
they cross reference it and they make the data usable
to these three letter agencies which are ultimately in a
position of power, some of which are in a position
of power to imprison me, like the irs. And now
I'm starting to better understand the concerns of the Whitney
Webs of the world, who has famously been talking about
(21:28):
this for a very long time. Yeah.
Speaker 13 (21:30):
So Total Information Awareness was defunded by Congress not long
after it was launched because every mainstream media outlet, the
ACLU and organizations like it across the board said this
will end privacy for American It was going to basically
spy on all Americans Total Information Awareness right and decide
(21:50):
who was going to commit a crime before it happened. Yes,
terror attacks before it happened, bioterror, even pandemics before they happen,
Which is why a lot of the policies originally Total
Information Awareness proposed, came back during the Trump administration during COVID,
and Pallenteer was the contractor for all of those What
do you know, They're.
Speaker 14 (22:10):
Going to use every telephone call you ever make, every
text you every make, every Google search, every website you
ever go to. They have a way of collecting all
of that data and they put it into a database
on you, and they have this kind of capability. And
so immediately after this was invented, You're right, all these
(22:31):
organizations pushed back against it. So the government said, Okay,
we're not going to do it anymore. But then Paluneer
was like, well we'll do it. And let me just
start by saying, Whitney, I'm sorry, I beg your pardon.
Yes I did vote for Donald Trump, and yes I
was aware of Palenteer, but no, I did not buy
(22:51):
or believe your hypothesis that they would in fact have
so much access to this White House. I mean, giving
a can campaign contribution is one thing. Having this level
of control and implementation into the government is another. So
in other words, yes, I was nervous. However, I was
(23:12):
also cautiously optimistic. But once you understand exactly how palanteer works,
and then you realize that, oh, CIA is using this,
the FBI is using this, the IRS is using this,
the Treasury Department's using this, Social Security is using this,
INS is using this.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
It's like, oh my goodness, what have we done?
Speaker 12 (23:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
There are some aspects of this technology that people on
the right are going to like, For instance, palnteer is
being used to help round up and deport illegal immigrants.
So you're not going to get any protests from the
right wingers when it comes to that use of this technology.
I think the only way that you're going to convince
them that this is actually a cause that they ought
(23:51):
to be concerned about is to connect the dots that. Sure,
right now, it's being used against Palestinians, which many of
you don't care about, it's using against immigrants many of
you don't care about. What about when it gets used
against you, like when you're dodging your taxes, and suddenly
palenteer is using the connections between the Treasury Department and
Social Security and other entities, and they're ultimately able to
(24:13):
connect these dots and now you maybe going to jail.
Even better than that, let's hypothesize about, say a couple
of years from now there's a president Alexandria Cassio Cortez.
How would you feel about it then? Because I know
you guys trust Trump, but what about if it was
Joe Biden or AOC or who knows Bernie Sanders. You're
(24:35):
gonna feel good then that Palenteer has all of your
information and they're connecting all of these dots and ultimately
feeding it to all of these agencies that have the
ability to throw you in jail. I think the obvious
answer is no, you shouldn't feel good about that, and
an ought to concern the hell out of you, because
it concerns the hell out of me. This issue is
getting so big that even a stand up comic like
(24:57):
Theo Vaughn who's interviewing jd Vance, the Vice President of
the United States, is asking him direct questions about thel
Palenteer and his connections to them.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
This is the Palenteer company where they're going to build
security databases that have all of our information in right,
that's what you're saying, Yeah, and it's going to have
like everything. It'll like look at you and know like
if you're good at tennis or if you have sixty
dollars in your pocket.
Speaker 10 (25:20):
I hear that story, and my reaction is the same,
which is, oh, I don't like the government having my information.
The reality is the government already has my information, and
more importantly, some of these private technology companies have way
more information on me than the government does.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Now it's obvious we are rapidly sliding into oblivion. That
you're getting harder hitting questions from a stand up comic
like THEO Vaughn than you would get from Rachel Maddow
or any other Fox News host for that matter. But
shout out to THEO Vaughn asking a real question and
putting jd Vance under the gun, because the truth is
that Jade Vance's relationship to Peter Tiel is profoundly deep.
(25:57):
And I'll let you guys decide if it's profoundly concerned.
It is profoundly concerning for me now that I understand
what Palnteer does and how it does it, but for
you maybe not so much. It's not as if there
aren't hundreds or thousands of corporations that have influence over politicians.
I would just advise you to contrast the Palentteer donations
(26:20):
through teal to Trump and Dvance, and contrast that to
other corporations and how much they give to politicians, and
then contrast that with the government contracts that pallunteer receives,
which is still the lion's share of their revenue. And
then contrast that with the increasing amount of responsibility and
data access and surveillance technology that they have. And then
(26:43):
you might come to the same conclusion that I have
that this is fucking crazy. And if I still haven't
convinced you, let's listen to my buddy Ian Carroll as
he explains it.
Speaker 15 (26:51):
This won't just get used on critics of the Trump administration.
This will get used on critics of every future American
government until the end of a America, because that's how
government works. Once you give them a power, they never
give it back. And we are entering into territory from
which there is no return. And inflaming leftist talking points
are both unnecessary and not the move. This is not
(27:14):
a part of an issue. In fact, this is a
deeply anti American issue. And I'm sure I don't need
to explain to a conservative why having AI watching you
at all times and doling out social credit scores is
a bad thing.
Speaker 12 (27:27):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Obviously I've gone extra hard on mister Carp, but I
gotta say, after watching hours of Peter Thiel interviews as
I prepared to do this episode for you guys, I
came to the conclusion that he is also extraordinarily strange.
In fact, in this interview just earlier this week, he's
asked specifically if he wants human beings to continue to
(27:49):
exist after AI takes over, and he pauses for a
long time, as if this is something he's really not
sure about, to which I say, what the dude, what
are you doing? You would prefer the human race to endure? Right?
Speaker 15 (28:05):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Well, yes, I don't know.
Speaker 13 (28:09):
I I would.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
I would so long hesitation, there's so many questions in playes,
shouldn't the human race survive? U?
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, okay, but but uh I I also would like
us to radically solve these problems.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
And uh and so you know, it's always I don't know,
you know, yeah, transhumanism is this, you know, the ideal
was this radical transformation where your human natural body gets
transformed into an immortal body.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
So it's obvious to me that mister Teal is a transhumanist,
that he believes that we have to lower government regulations
so that we can create these innovations that allow for
life extension, et cetera, et cetera. Which I'm okay with
life extension. I would like to live longer. Who wouldn't, right,
But he takes it to a level that is deeply concerning,
(29:03):
where you get to the point where you're so convinced
that the advancement of technology and innovation is paramount to
all else that if it means that we have to
no longer exist, well, then it sounds like you're okay
with it. So while mister KRP is much more overt
in his disdain for anyone who's not him, mister Teal
(29:26):
is a little bit more secret about it, but it
does seem that he also has kind of a break
a billion eggs to make an omelet type of mentality.
Oh and also, Pete, anytime someone asks you if you
want humanity to survive, the answer is fucking yes. Do
I need to be your PR coach? What the fuck
(29:47):
are you thinking? So to recap, we've got Peter Teal,
who is a transhumanist who also isn't sure if humanity
needs to survive because it might impede in technological progress,
as if technological progress is more important than him us humanity.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
What the all?
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Right? Anyways, I gotta get past that one. And then
you've got Alex Karp, who is, in my opinion, my
very humble opinion, after dozens of hours of watching this
guy and reading about him, is a psychopath. Sorry, I'm
not going to mince my words. I think he's a psychopath.
I'm not a doctor. I can't diagnose it. I'm just
telling you he strikes me as a very dangerous human being.
(30:31):
He has all of the hallmarks of a neo conservative
and a sociopath, if not a psychopath, dangerous, dangerous guy. Now,
for those that aren't aware, Peter Thiel he is the
funding and one of the founders and also obviously a
big shareholder still of Palanteer. He is not the day
to day guy. Karp is the day to day guy,
(30:52):
and I am very concerned about mister Karp.
Speaker 16 (30:55):
It's the most effective way for social changes. Humiliate your
enemy and make them poorer, and that's how social change
actually happens.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Setting aside the weirdness with deal, which is also worth noting,
so the two primary players inside of Palenteer are very
strange and very dangerous people in my opinion. But even
if they weren't, this is still a technology that's extraordinarily dangerous.
Oh and might I add that it is almost certainly
(31:28):
a CIA front. And I think the biggest thing to
take away from all of this is that if you
guys remember the censorship regime that happened under the Biden
administration when it came to Facebook and Instagram and Twitter.
It was Twitter at the time other social media platforms too, YouTube,
where there was back channeling from the Biden administration telling
(31:50):
them what to censor. And the reason they did it
that way is because it's against the constitution if the
government censors you. However, if they can circumvent that and
make it so that they're just applying pressure, this coercive
pressure to private institutions, they can do things that the
government can't. And I think that's exactly why in q
(32:11):
Tel exists, is that they fund businesses to do deeds
that they can't do, at least not legally. Now, there
has been Supreme Court precedent in the past it says
even if they do this, that's still unconstitutional because they're
trying to circumvent our rights. But that doesn't mean that
the Supreme Court will stand up or that it'll even
(32:31):
ever be seen or heard in front of the Supreme Court.
So I think at this point that's kind of how
I perceive Paalentteer. It is a mechanism to circumvent the
Bill of Rights, our privacy rights, our speech rights, et cetera.
And I think the overarching point is that even if
this wasn't Palenteer, even if Alex carp wasn't the guy
(32:54):
or deal, that's not really the key point here. The
key point is those who would give up essential liberty
to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin one of our founding fathers, and now my
(33:14):
normal audience is very libertarian, and I would guess, given
the nature of this topic, I will have a lot
of non libertarians that watch this episode. But I would
still apply that same message to you. Even if you
want the government to be used against your enemies, it
will be used against you, be it the Trump administration
versus the left or the AOC administration versus the right.
(33:38):
This should not be partisan. If you care about your freedoms,
your free speech, your due process, your privacy rights. Everybody
should be on the same page here, and every time
you hear about the Trump administration or any future administration
granting more funding to an institution like Palaeer, it doesn't
(34:01):
even have to be Palenteer. It could be some new
inq Tel funded spinoff. Your immediate instinct ought to be
on guard, and your call to action is to oppose it,
to be loud about it, and to let your elected
officials know that if they vote for this stuff, they
go bye by via the voting box. Obviously, Palenteer to
(34:22):
me is essentially the AI version, the modern version of Blackwater, Halliburton, Boeing,
Northrop Grumman, all of the military industrial complex corporations which
made a fortune off of the War on Terror. And
as the war drums beat louder, as we inch ever
closer to the potential for a world war, you ought
(34:45):
to expect that companies like Palenteer are going to get
more and more funding and more and more power, and
they're going to do it in more and more nefarious
and secretive ways, and it's going to be hard to track,
just as Blackwater once changed its name, for instance, this
is a problem that is not going away. In fact,
AI is a problem all on its own, which I
(35:06):
may do an episode in the future about. If you'd
like me to do that, drop a comment down below.
But even setting aside the inherent dangers that can come
along with the advent and the improvement of artificial intelligence,
Palenteer is doing things that are by their very nature
a danger to you and I. For those that are
new here, I just set up this studio after moving
(35:30):
a couple months ago, six weeks ago, and dumped a
ton of money into it. Obviously, this has been a
labor of love for me, a passion project. I poured
my soul into this one. So all I ask of
you is two things. One, pick up your phone right
now and subscribe to Liberty Lockdown. In fact, better than that,
pick up everybody you knows phone and so subscribe to
(35:50):
Liberty Lockdown on whatever platform you're watching or listening to.
Obviously it's on Apple, Podcasts, Spotify, all over the place.
And Two, if you found any aspect of this interesting,
which you probably did, because if you didn't, then I
really did a bad job. But I didn't. I crushed it.
Let's be honest. If you can take clips, share, them
on your own social media, or just send the link
(36:11):
out to your friends and family and just force them
to watch it, as you've now recognized the same existential
threat that Palanteer represents that I recognize a few weeks ago.
And last but not least as always, click that like button, subscribe,
leave a comment down below, and hug and kiss your mother,
your grandma, your father, your children, whoever, your girlfriend, your wife,
(36:35):
your husband. I'm being very inclusive today. Thank you guys
so much for tuning in. My name is Clint Russell.
If you like to support my work, there's links in
the description down below you can subscribe and uh yeah,
we're out of here. Pease. We have a lot of
individual investors on the line.
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Is there anything you'd like to say before we in
the call?
Speaker 4 (36:52):
We're doing it. We're doing it, and I'm sure you're
enjoying this as much as I am.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.