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(00:03):
Hi, I'm Bran and I love Lifetimemovies.
Hi, I'm Patrick Serrano and I ama Lifetime movie expert.
I'm Dan and I despise a Lifetimemovies and this is the dead.
The heart of the heart. We hope you like this Dolly

(00:29):
Part. What's up?
All your party animals. Party animals.
Last month we had Mommy meanest.That's right.
This month we have Daddy's deadly secrets.
Daddy Daddy daycare with daddy'sdeadly.
Secrets, another title that I forgot.

(00:53):
My daddy's deadly secret. That I forgot until until it
happens in the movie and I was like, Oh yeah, that's.
Daddy's deadly secret. That's what I remember.
Yeah, this isn't. This movie is not called Missing
Girls Time. It's not more.
There's more to. It that's later in the month we

(01:14):
have the missing girls, but we gotta do a daddy for Father's
Day of. Course.
Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Happy early Father's Day and allthe Papas out there.
That's right. My dad.
Your dad. To us as well.
To us as well. Yes, of course.
Yeah. Yeah.
You wanna say you wanna say anything to any dads in your
life, Patrick? No, I don't have a sugar daddy,

(01:34):
so I'd like one, you know? Before.
So that's all right. That is a message you would like
one. Listen.
Yeah, yeah, you are. Are are you accepting
applications? How does that?
Work. You're accepting you?
Are you filling out applications?
I don't know how that works either.
According according to Lifetime,I need to be in a bar and I'll

(01:57):
I'll be sipping my martini and then a a sugar daddy will offer
to buy my drink and then buy me everything I ever wanted.
Well, for a price. Shouldn't there be a dating app
for? That there has to be, right?
At this point, right? There, there must be, I mean.
I know from yo gavel gavel that there was seeking arrangements
or something which was for sugardaddies.

(02:21):
But that was like more of an escort service, yeah.
But right. Yeah, this is like an actual
like compatibility thing for someone who wants like for those
two people. Yeah, I've I've upped my range
on my dating profile You. Know what?
Does up up to range mean? What does that mean?
Age. I, I realized that my, my peak

(02:44):
top age was 40, right? But but I'm 40.
So I was like, Oh my God, I'm missing out on all these
opportunities of these older, more successful gentlemen.
So you need. To tell me that you basically,
until the last week or so when you upped your range, you were
like, I'm only dating dudes younger than.
Me. I well, I didn't realize my

(03:05):
settings were set to. 40. Don't.
What'd you take it up to? 4550?
What'd you take it up to? Oh, I went to 80.
You didn't go to 80. I went however high it goes.
I mean I think it goes to like 99 the age.
Does not exist. You went from only younger,

(03:25):
younger people than me to yeah, not 90, whatever.
Yep to only to bottom. 30, yeah.What'd you say?
Bottom is 30 and then up to 100 or 99 plus. 30 to 99 plus.
So if if you get to be 100 on Bumble or whatever it is you,

(03:47):
you then can just be like I'm 99plus you can.
Get I don't yeah, I'm 104. I love that.
But I don't have to reveal that I love how in their wildest
dreams they're like no one's no one in triple Diggy's is gonna
you never now we'll we'll cap itat 9:00 to 9:00 plus and
that'll. Yeah, I'll take care of it.

(04:09):
Yeah, that'll take care of it. 30 to.
Nine has. Has moving back to the small
town has that. The dating apps.
Changed. Has it affected it in any way?
Oh yeah, the, you know, going from Chicago to where I am now,
it's the, the pool is much smaller.
So really looking for the I've been speed dating.
Speed dating is what I've been doing in DC.

(04:31):
So do you got? What do you mean you go?
Up to actual like an actual likewe've seen in the movie speed
dates. Not with the name tags and
stuff, but yeah, basically you meet at like a coffee shop and
there's like a little app and ittells you like, OK, you're gonna
meet this person wearing this outfit and you sit for like 7
minutes. It's like, OK, go talk to
another person now. Oh.

(04:52):
That's fun, does it? So it's all all all through
apps. Now that makes sense.
Why? So how many do you?
How many? How many dudes do you do you
meet doing this in an evening? Well, I went to Queer Knight and
that is all inclusive. So I met a lot of lesbians, a
lot of lesbians. So I got to read the five print.
I got to read the. 5 prints, so you got set up with a lot of

(05:13):
lesbians. It it was great.
I met at. Under 40.
Yoke instructor. They were in the age range.
Yeah, they. But no, no matches, no matches.
So we'll keep trying. It's alright.
We'll keep us posted on this podcast.
I think we should do that every week.
For the for the folks at home that might not know about sure

(05:38):
your foot. Do you want to talk about?
That do you want to talk about it?
Sure, let's just do all the lifeupdates.
I I I injured my he's. Speed dating.
He's up to 99 plus he moved to asmall town and he injured his
foot. Go ahead.
Injured it it it's my calf. I did a jumping Jack.
They were squats, they were squat jumping jacks.

(05:59):
So you're in a squat position and you have to open your arms
like, like you're saying like Boo, you know, So at the same
time. And so I was doing this really
dumb move in 5:30 AM workout class that I didn't want to do.
And I was like, I felt a cramp and then it turned into a, a
calf tear. I have a calf tear.

(06:21):
Now when you injured yourself doing a ghost jumping Jack, is
that when you realize? What Jumping Jack is sounds like
it is not. But is that when you realize
that your dating profile was toolow, you need to go up to the 99
plus? Yeah, that was the moment, you
know, I was lying there with my foot up.
I'm like, I think I need to racemy I'm feeling my age.

(06:41):
I'm gonna ask the question everyone older than us is
thinking. Did you stretch first?
There, there is a little stretchin this class that's built in to
the workout and then they did like a A2 minute jumping
session, which they don't usually do.
This first time they did it since I was there and I was
like, I don't jump, but I did jump 'cause I felt peer

(07:04):
pressured. It's it's it's tail, it's all,
it's time. So you are not a jumper, but you
decided to jump because everyoneelse was jumping?
Yep. And and the coach was like, come
on, what? What are you going to not jump?
And I was like, oh, I hate this guy, but he bullies.
Me, I just I, just I, I know we've got, we're up.

(07:25):
Here, we're up against it. You you go to a 530 AM workout
class, there's a 2 minute stretch time and then it
straight into squatted jumping jacks.
Are they trying to murder you? Well, it's Mark Wahlberg's
workout School of workouts, so. Wahlberg's school of workouts.

(07:48):
I'm not, I'm not gonna say the name 'cause they're not, they're
not sponsoring us, but. That's right.
That's right. Hey, that's.
Right Mark Wahlberg's School of Workouts tool on our watch.
Chaos. Maybe we'll mention you.
We did a lot of the work. People could figure it out if
they really wanted to, but pay us the guy the.
Guy from the happened school of workouts.
That's right. Go ahead.
So yeah, it's his school of workouts.

(08:10):
I'm just saying if you see Mark Wahlberg with the shirt off, the
results, the workouts show the results.
OK, so you're saying that the two minutes of stretching
straight into squat jacks is? Is above board.
That's what Mark Wahlberg does. I feel like squat jacks is
subject that you'd have to really build.
I wouldn't want to go. With that, I, I there's nothing
about looking at Mark Wahlberg that makes me go.

(08:30):
I could do what he does. You know, it's yeah, I mean
there, there there's a lot of stuff that I thought I would
never do and I was doing it for like 3 months.
Did you feel? Better.
Did you look better? Did you feel better?
I mean, I always think I look the same no matter how much I
work out or a diet, you know, I'm a, I'm a Dorito.

(08:52):
I'm shaped like a Dorito. That's just how it's going to be
a. Dorito.
I got big broad shoulders and a little waist and like no legs or
booty. Nothing.
It's a Dorito A. Dorito that's actually that's
his dating profile bio I'm a. Dorito Panda said He was an
upside down top, and we had to correct him that he was a right
side up top. Yeah, that's right.

(09:13):
I look like an upside down top. And I was like, no, that's what,
a a top? A top, Yeah.
The bigger, bigger sides up top here, yeah.
Yeah, there you. Go Dorito, Dorito.
All right, Dorito, Let's talk daddies.
Deadly secret. I'll give you my daddy's deadly
secret. And I I just wanna I just wanna
let you know, Patrick, this movie is very fresh, very fresh

(09:35):
for me. And what I typically do while
watching these is I'll watch them and then I will read along
at lifetime uncorked and just kind of see are we are we seeing
the same thing? And so if if it seems like I'm,

(09:56):
I have a different, different take on this movie or a
different way of explaining it, just know that, you know, we
watch this separately and maybe saw saw things happen
differently with different characters.
And I'm just saying, if I correct Patrick right, Patrick

(10:18):
could definitely be right, you know?
It's not a correction, it's an observation.
It's an observation. You know, it's just your point
of view that that's fair. And I also want to say, Patrick,
that obviously Dan hasn't seen this movie.
And I told Dan before you came on here, Dan, you really need to
pay attention this week and you always pay attention.
He said it like I don't normallypay attention.

(10:39):
I just think that it with this movie in particular, there's a
lot of moving parts. It would be helpful if we had a
diagram of sorts to follow alongstill in.
Lifetime, right? We're still in lifetime, but
there's a, there's a, there's a few different storylines
happening that do all end up coming together, but there's

(11:01):
also name changes. And I it just would have been
helpful to have some sort of of of diagram, but nevertheless
just really, really pay attention this week, folks.
Just really pay attention. Good to know.
Patrick, take it away. This happens in Lifetime movies
sometimes, especially when you have parents who are divorced.
OK, So we're dealing with a separation situation right from

(11:24):
the get go. So the movie stars Steve
Breyers, who is a Mark, Mark Paul Gossler, not really kind of
like knock off. Yeah, you know, 100% he's the
guy I saw the video of. Oh yeah, yeah, I can see that

(11:44):
for sure. He does some interesting things
with his face in this movie. Well, we'll, we'll get to the
face and he's done. He's done a lot of movies.
He's done a lot of TV movies. He's a a regular and Sarah
Allen, who is like a your typical, like lifetime brunette,
very run-of-the-mill. And I've never seen her before.

(12:05):
So we start off, we have, OK, wehave a stepmother and her
daughter, OK, The stepmother they're, they're like not doing
your typical gender things. They're doing baseball or what's
it called catch in the backyard.They're.
Doing baseball in the backyard? Yes.
What I love about this catch game is that it takes place.

(12:29):
They are right next to the swimming pool and there's a
whole grassy area behind them that they could be playing
catching and they choose not to and they don't throw the ball
doesn't end up in the water, butit could have.
And that's why I always say justtake the proper precautions up
front, Dan, and move to the backto the to the lawn, because then

(12:51):
you don't have to worry about fetching the ball out of the
pool. That's just that's
straightforward. That would be my that'd be like
us doing catch with right next to your pool when we could just
go outside the gates. Yeah.
And just do it, do it in the, inthe in the old lawn there.
But that's just me. Does a baseball sink in the
pool? Would it sink or would it float?
Yeah, it's got to. Sink.

(13:11):
It's got to a football floats. Well, maybe a bad moment.
Maybe a bad moment. You know, I've never I I'm very
familiar with the pool part, butnot like the sports by the pool.
I don't I don't know how that works.
I think a let's see. I think a baseball would sink a
golf ball sinks, a baseball would sink a basketball and
football float. I will say I did, I did this

(13:33):
movie coming out strong with stepmom and daughter playing
catch. That was nice.
This was nice. And I'm like, where's where's
Dad? Dad's deadly secret?
Cause so far we're just out there having a good time.
Yes. And it does establish some like,
you know, they're not like, you know, they're not your typical
like mother daughter. Like this stepmother is really

(13:56):
going above and beyond. And her name is Caroline.
She's a little blonde lady. She is coming in.
She's coming in, coming in, you know, as a stepmom.
She doesn't want to be the evil stepmom.
So she's really trying. And Richard is the husband.
That's our our Mark Paul wannabe.

(14:16):
He calls her daddy's second wifewith his daughter.
That's how they refer to her as like a loving term.
And the daughter's name is Abigail.
And she's like a treasure. Everyone loves Abigail.
Her teachers like all her, you know, classmates.
But Abigail is taking a turn. You know Abigail is hanging out

(14:41):
with a a new crowd, so to say. Yeah, she is.
They're they're older. Oh boy.
They're older kids. Oh boy.
They're older kids and they takethe public, they take the public
transportation, the bus, they take the bus.
They take the bus So sweet. Which is.
Sweet little Abigail is out there hanging out with older

(15:04):
kids taking the bus. Yes, and the the older kids.
Hold on. I wrote down their names
somewhere. Oh, they call themselves.
We learn this later, but while we're talking about it, they
call themselves the Runaway Girls.
The Runaway Girls. And I'm sure it's like nothing.
I am sure that any group of girls that call themselves the

(15:25):
Runaway Girls will stay put. Probably will stay put.
Nothing. Nothing's gonna they they would
never. The name means nothing.
Yeah, no, like if you really notimportant, it's not important.
It's just a funny like. You know, like baseball in the
backyard. That's not gonna come back.
That's not right. That's not gonna come back,

(15:45):
Yeah. It definitely won't.
It definitely won't. So Richard has a sister.
Yes. The sister is a drug addict,
deadbeat, kind of like estrangedfrom the family.
They set this up at the top. We don't know her name, but we
learned later her name is Darla.She's been, like, missing.

(16:09):
They have a restraining order against her.
She's a bad person. OK.
Just keep that in your back. He's a bad person.
That's right. Got it.
And like Rich, I I like so Abigail, no, Caroline,
Caroline's a psychologist and solike, you know, she's always
trying to help people and whatnot.
So she is like encouraging Richard, like, hey, maybe it's

(16:30):
time for you and Darla to reconnect.
And he's like no way know how she's the worst.
Yes. OK, now Caroline is sitting down
to watch her favorite, like, 2020 murder show.
And they're talking about this guy who, like, killed his
girlfriend. And, you know, it's very like

(16:50):
those like, Friday evening shows.
Like what? What happened?
What did you find? When, when when that guy killed
his person and then never. No one saw him again.
Yeah. It's like one of those numbers
got him. Yep, and she gets a call from a
client, like one of her clients is having an emergency and

(17:12):
Richard's like don't answer the phone.
They need to learn boundaries. They're they call you too much.
And that client's name is Beth. And we all know about Beth,
right? Beth has no no boundaries, no
boundaries. She is like calling because
she's like grieving a friendshipor something.
And she this doesn't come back, but there's a full cabinet of

(17:34):
stuffed animals. For some reason it does.
It does come back. It does come back.
There's a. There's a split second
explainer. Patrick I might have, I might
have missed it, but I was like, what are these stuffed animals
at this Beth's house? But also while she's, did you
notice this Patrick, while she'son the phone or she just gets

(17:54):
done with the call? Like she's in her office, It's
night time in her office. She has like these amazing big
old windows outside and there's a flash, a light flash.
Did you see this Patrick? It's pretty quick.
There's there's a flash of lightoutside and she goes and she
peeks her head outside and she doesn't see anything.
But that also will kind of come back.

(18:17):
OK, OK, great. I I'm excited.
Runaway girls Beth Abigail's terrible There's it's like I I'm
already I'm already confused so.And I if you well, get ready
because we have a whole another batch of characters to introduce
because we're we're still we're only on the the night, the night
of the baseball throwing. Caroline Richard Abigail's.

(18:39):
Richard's daughter. Got it.
Caroline's stepmom. Caroline's client, Beth who?
Are the runaway girls? The runaway girls are Abigail's
friends from school that are theolder, older girls.
I'm Ellie. I'm Ellie.
All right, go ahead. OK, now Richard drops off his
daughter because she the at the at the mom's house, the the

(19:00):
birth mother's house. It's her day to take the kid or
whatever. He talks outside with the
husband, The husband slash step dad.
His name's Doug. He there's like no ill will.
They seem to be like pretty likeBroy.
They're like, hey, let's do thisbusiness deal together, bro.
Yeah, bro, that sounds great. I love business and I was

(19:25):
surprised that they were gettingalong.
There was no tension. There was no like, I hate you,
right? But we do see.
That's dog and not dog. That's Dog and Ellie.
I do want Patrick's bro character to make it to a movie.
Somewhere. Oh yeah, yeah, he's great.
He's. Great, I showed someone, I
showed someone my real and they're like so you you've got

(19:45):
gay characters down. It's like, yeah, yeah.
No, I want you to play just a straight bro in a movie.
That'd be hysterical. I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna. Do it could be straight.
Can you imagine if there's no nomore?
Questions, characters. No more questions.
No more questions bro. You know, it would have been a

(20:05):
choice. It would have been a.
Choice. Yeah, choice.
I think the director was said, can we do another take?
Can we do another take? We do one more.
Time, right? Richard does bring Abigail
inside, trying to find where Ellie is.
Ellie's in the bathroom. Ellie's seems a bit frazzled
she's taking. Pills.

(20:26):
Oh no. And Richard's like, like, and
she's crying. You can see that she's been
crying. And Richard's like, you good
bro, And Ellie's like, yeah, I'mall good everything.
'S so excited, I'm so scared. Yeah, I'm so excited.
I'm just scared. And so, so, yeah, he's like, all
right, peace out. He goes to get in the car and

(20:47):
Caroline's like, how's Ellie seem?
And he's like, he's, I mean, she's OK, I guess.
And she's like, is she still taking her medicine?
And he's like, yeah, still taking her medicine because he
sees the medicine behind her andshe, like, tries to cover it up.
Like she's ashamed of it. I don't really know what the
deal is there, but it's clear that Richard and Caroline are

(21:07):
like concerned about Ellie and her health and like what her
what her deal is. But, you know, what can you do?
What can you do? Yeah.
And. One one thing about Ellie is
that she wears oversized clothesthe whole movie.
Like like very covered up. OK, that.

(21:28):
I didn't notice the oversized clothes.
I didn't you're. Kidding me?
I no, I'm not kidding you. I will say I noticed that she
dug scarves like I like noticed that she was a scarf fan but I
didn't. Literally was wearing like a a a
long sleeve dress with like a full like coat like long like it

(21:50):
was Gray. It was excessive.
I thought you would. It's fine.
It's just it, it is a, it is a warning sign of, of trauma when
you're covering your body like that, yes.
I, I haven't, I haven't watched enough Lifetime movies to to I
don't really focus on the clothes as much aside from
Caroline's shoes forcing those movies.

(22:10):
Those white shoes that she's rocking were dope, but I didn't
notice the oversized the oversized clothes.
That's the mandated reporter in me.
I've done a lot. Of you did a great job, you did
a great job on that. It's a good job.
Speaking of good jobs, let's do a good job and head to a break.
How about that? Yeah, already.
Yeah, we're 22 minutes in, baby.You're like the whole 199 plus.

(22:31):
That's what's that? What's up, everybody?
We're back. We're talking about daddy's
deadly secrets. We got two daddies in this
movie. We got two daddies in this
movie. So it could be either daddy.

(22:52):
Birth. Daddy's name is Richard.
Step dad's name is Dougie. Doug.
Doug is married to Caroline. No.
Brian Ellie. Ellie.
Richard's married to Caroline, Yes.
And the daughter's name is great.
We're up to crushing it. You're crushing it.
I only sent four. You're doing that first segment.
Amazing, amazing. All right, so after school,

(23:16):
Abigail does not come home from swim practice and we we see
Caroline is like freaking out. They are all the couples all
come together. They like, we're going to call
the police. And that's when we learn about
the runaway girls and how they go to they go to this the a

(23:36):
place called the fairgrounds. I was like, what are the
fairgrounds? They're not where a fair takes.
Place so Doug comes in this is such a great conversation.
Doug comes in and she's like, wasn't at the fairgrounds and
Richard's like, why would she beat the fairgrounds?
And Doug's like, all right, I guess now's the time to tell

(23:58):
you. She's been hanging out with all
the girls and they go and they hanging out the abandoned
fairgrounds. OK, Sorry we didn't tell you.
Didn't want to worry you. Like is it?
Is it Canadian for playground We.
No, I grew up in a town like I grew up in Columbia, SC with
shout out, shout out with the South Carolina State Fair and

(24:19):
they have the fairgrounds. And when it is not the week of
the fair, it's just a wide open lot.
Like it's just. Oh.
It's runaway girls gotta hang out and.
Occasionally they'll do other things there, but typically,
like on a regular, like where there's a football game,
everybody tailgates at the fairgrounds.
I, I guess I'm really Southern. I, I don't know, like that's,
that's what it is, yeah. So a few things obviously come

(24:41):
out in this moment, which Richard's shocked by, obviously
the fairgrounds being one of them.
Also apparently there is a, a, ascratch like a cut like right
here on Elle Ellie's arm. And they're like, what's going
on there? And she's like, well, so here's
the thing. Abigail attacked me.

(25:02):
And they're like, what do you mean, Abigail?
What do you mean Abigail attacked you?
When were you gonna tell us? She's like, I'm telling you now.
And apparently she just got really like, they were talking
to her. Hey, maybe don't hang out with
the runaway girls. And one, I do think at this time
they didn't know that they were called the runaway girls that
which might be, they're not likebeing like, I can't believe she

(25:25):
ran away. Well, the runaway girls at the
time, they didn't know it. They were just the older girls.
And so they're like, we would talk to her and she got mad and
she she grabbed my grabbed my arm and they're like, that's
super weird that she would do that.
And they're like, yeah, it was crazy.
Yes, the SO they kind of like established, like, you know,
she's for sure missing. They split up like the moms go

(25:48):
talk to the police. We meet the police detective,
who I don't have a name for, butthey love carrying a coffee mug.
They love having a coffee mug. Parker Parker is the best
character in this movie. What?
Parker, if you listen to this, Parker's freaking hilarious.

(26:11):
Parker's a riot. Parker's nuts.
You never know what Parker's gonna say.
You never know how Parker's gonna say it.
I wish I brought a clip of Parker cause Parker's nuts in
this movie. Parker is not afraid to scream
at the parents and tell them that they are wrong.
Yes, Parker is not afraid to askfor a a refill of coffee and

(26:32):
Parker. Parker's also one of the one of
the worst cops I've ever seen, one of the worst cops I've ever
seen on screen at doing cop stuff.
That's we've seen a lot of bad ones.
Right, like a miner's missing, they'll turn up.
They'll turn up. Oh, oh, like, just like, just.
Been over 48 hours, they're dead.

(26:53):
I'd I'd love to have like a Parker sin chart where we just
count the sins of this cop 'cause they're numerous.
They're numerous and plenty. Right the.
Teacher. The.
The school teacher is a little bit more helpful.
She pulls out a bunch of drawings that Abigail has done.

(27:18):
Abigail is an artiste if you will.
And we see a a picture of an oldconvent that the runaway girls
hang out at. So the the parents all go to
this old convent that's abandoned.
An abandoned fairgrounds and an abandoned convent in the same
town. Yeah, yeah.
What? A town.
Look at. This picture they think she for.

(27:39):
Putting anything not look look. At this look at this girl's
drawing of this, of this drawing.
It's a great drawing, yeah. It is clear.
It is clear, clear as crystal. They run, they run up to the
convent. They see a a girl with a
backpack that's similar to Abigail.
They're like Abigail, but it's not it's the runaway girls.
And all the runaway girls are like, we don't know what
happened to Abigail. She didn't run away with us, but

(28:02):
they they interview the detective interviews all the
girls and the detective also interviews a woman named
Marianne, who is the crossing guard at the school.
And Marianne? Can I just really quickly?
Marianne is a crossing guard andAbigail first meets Marianne

(28:23):
after one of her sessions at Beth's house.
So she goes to Beth's house for sessions instead of because Beth
is afraid to leave her house apparently.
So she goes to Beth's house, sheleaves and Beth's house I guess
is close enough to the school because the crossing guard,
Marianne is there. And Marianne's like, hey, wanted

(28:43):
to introduce myself and Marianneon the crossing guard.
You've got one amazing daughter,all all this good stuff.
I know we how far into this movie are we?
Because I feel like I've been introduced to a lot of people.
Could be 20, could be 40, but I've yeah.
I know two things. Haven't heard yet.
One, I don't feel like we've hada murder or or of any or any

(29:04):
sort of big thing aside from Abigail's missing.
And then second of all, we've definitely not had a daddy's
deadly secrets. Have we not?
Oh, right, no Daddy's deadly secret.
I mean it, it's coming. It's.
Coming. OK.
All right. Sorry, go ahead.
So anyway, yes, there there's there's Marianne, who is now

(29:24):
obviously aware that Abigail's missing and she tells Caroline,
I actually know what you're going through.
My daughter went missing one time too.
Cool. Yeah, like, so she's like, I
really get it. Like people say they get it, but
I actually get it. No, I get it.

(29:45):
I get it. I get it.
Like I I lost a daughter 10 years ago, so I understand a
little too much. A little too much.
Beth surprisingly leaves the house.
That's right. Surprisingly leaves the house.
We are. She's chasing Caroline around
the police station. So just really quickly, just to

(30:06):
give a little bit of more, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
So, so Caroline's at the police station talking to Parker about
who freaking knows what Parker'sasking dumb questions.
And at the police station, the, the CCTV footage is just
plastered anywhere. Anybody who wants to look at

(30:27):
what's going around the police station, you can look at it.
And so Caroline's looking and she sees on one of the cameras,
she sees Beth and she sees that Beth is arguing with somebody.
And so she goes to find Beth. And it's like, Oh my gosh, Beth,
that's you at this point. Richard, Doug and Ellie are also

(30:52):
there. And yeah.
And so they she's like, Beth, what are you doing here?
And Beth is like, I know who youare.
Points in the direction. To Richard.
Points in the direction of Richard says I know who you are.
And she has like this like envelope in her hand.
And then they like they and Richard is like Darla.

(31:16):
And as at this point that we realized that Beth is Richard's
estranged sister, Darla. And she says and she says I know
who you really are, her brother,her brother.
But like, what does she mean by that?
Oh my gosh. All right.

(31:37):
And she has a box cutter. So, so she's being threatening
and, you know, she gets basically dragged away by the
police, I believe. And they're like, Oh my gosh, we
can't believe Darla was has found us and lied to you and all
this stuff. She's crazy.
So so they're like, whatever. But I guess Caroline takes the

(32:01):
envelope. Is that right?
No. OK, OK, great.
The envelope. So.
All right, so the envelope. She does not get arrested at
this point in time. They do let her go and but they
do end up finding her dead in her house.
She's dead. Darla dies.

(32:22):
Darla's dead. Darla's dead.
Beth Darla. Beth Darla dies.
Beth Darla dead. Got it.
Did you miss that Beth Darla died?
I totally missed. It OK, so Beth Darla, Beth Darla
dies you like. The pulp is it Paul?
Who's the cop? Parker, we'll get, we'll get
back to the envelope in a littlebit.

(32:43):
But she does take the she takes the envelope with her, and she
is too much. Movie for 83 minutes.
Yeah, man. Yeah, I I've been missing people
dying in movies lately because they just kind of like, die
like. Can I tell you why you missed
it? It it's because they announced
that she's dead immediately after commercial break.
They come back from commercial break and if you skipped the 1st

(33:07):
5 seconds of this commercial break, which I did and had to go
back because I was like, wait, who freaking died?
Then then good luck, you missed it.
So they come back and they're outside Darla's house and
Darla's dead. And if for some reason you may
be fast forwarded a little too far, you missed it.
Darla's dead. So I think that's what.

(33:28):
Happened. Happened.
Yeah. So Caroline and Richard are also
trying to have a baby of their own.
They get a call. For you, they can't.
They can't have kids that are. Trying to figure out why from
the fertility Dr. The doctor is like, OK, I got all the tests
back and I have some news for you.

(33:49):
You're fine. It's your husband who is unable
to have kids because of his history of opioid abuse and he
was in rehab for like drug addiction and all this stuff.
He just starts going. He gives her.
So much information which like Iknow that Caroline is Richard's

(34:10):
wife, but like man like you can't tell the her all of this
information right? Like he could be like.
Can't do that unless you give him.
Permission. Yeah.
And she's like, Richard's not here right now, but like, you
can tell me. And he's like, well, you are the
wife, so here comes everything. Here comes everything.
Here we go. 11. Your husband is the reason why
you can't have kids. And she's like, what are you

(34:31):
talking about? He has a kid.
Richard has a kid. And he's like, I, I don't know
to tell you miracles so since. That kid, he's been on opioids
since. Then that, well, no, because.
Prior. Prior, prior because he says I
actually have in the folder for reasons I don't know how he has
his data, but he spent time in the early 2000s at a rehab

(34:53):
facility of for for opioid abuse.
But he could have a kid afterwards.
He'd he'd, so why can't? He have a kid now.
His, his, his, his juice is loose.
You don't have enough. You don't have enough.
Like his count's too low, count's low, count's low.
The question now obviously is well then how does he have a
kid? How does he have a kid?

(35:15):
That's the question exactly and and Caroline talks to Richard.
He's like the early 2000s were atime like, sorry, I didn't tell
you about that telling me. You know, boy band emo and but
that's also when he's like, like, I got the help that I
needed. My sister didn't get the help

(35:37):
and like she she like I and I couldn't help her anymore.
And that's ultimately why I had to cut her off.
But like, I'm not one. I'm not that person anymore.
But then Parker comes in and goes freaking nuts on these two
and it's like. How did you explain this?
And whips the computer. Around and goes Abigail doesn't

(35:59):
exist. There's no Social Security
number for Abigail. She's not a real person.
They've seen Abigail though. We have 100% seen Abigail.
But when she's trying to put in the missing, like I guess now's
the time I'm trying to like put in the missing person.
I'm putting in the missing person info and like, she's not

(36:20):
a real person. So I can't like somebody's
lying. And Richard is like, I don't
know what you're talking about. She is my daughter.
And so this is another fantasticParker moment because Caroline's
like Parker, can you give us a moment?
And Parker leaves the room, which is just great.
And she's like, OK, explain whathappened.

(36:41):
She that's when she he explains I, I'm not that person anymore.
Like I'm on the up and up. And also Abigail 100% is my
daughter and Caroline believes her husband and helps helps him
flee the flee. Like they just need to rest.
I don't like she's like basically tells him to hang
tight and they do not hang tightAnd Parker comes out and he's

(37:03):
like so gone. Parker's so mad, like can't
believe that they would leave. It's it's great.
It's a great moment. And obviously they have like,
where would you go first when you find out that the daughter
that you have apparently isn't areal person?
Right, CVS. Interesting.
Yes. Or you go to the mom's house,

(37:25):
you go, hey, let's go talk to Ellie Duck.
Which is what what they do. Yes they do and Ellie just
literally runs away. She just runs through the yard.
She's like trying to climb over the gate.
Yes, she tried to climb the gate.
What they see her anyone and. Richard show up and her response
is to run. They go, hey, we gotta talk

(37:46):
about Abigail because apparentlyshe doesn't exist.
And she runs away and she just kind of runs into a gate and
she's like, yeah. How have they gotten this far
along in Abigail's life without her having a Social Security
number? It's really.
Kind of like hard to say. Good, cool.
I mean that I think like you need that.

(38:06):
So so you don't need that when you're a kid to enroll.
In at school, yes you do. Do they look it up?
Probably. Not do they look it.
Up. She's somebody made-up one,
she's got one on record somewhere.
This girl is a definitely real. She's a real person, yeah.
Alright. Sorry, keep going.
So. This is when we get the

(38:27):
explanation. Go ahead.
Yeah, yeah, Ellie admits that her life spun out of control, as
many people did in the early 2000s.
It was a tough. Crazy time, crazy Y2K.
Fergie Fergie was doing a solo music.
Yeah, I mean, what was being? Nobody needs that, Fergie.
Terrible, terrible. No, we didn't ask for that.
So hey. Mama.

(38:51):
Yes, yes, she'd. Be up in the gym working on her
fitness. She's not doing any squat jacks
after 2 minutes of stretching though, I can tell you that.
Right. Definitely not.
So Ellie is lied about being pregnant to to stop the divorce
from happening. So Richard was going to leave
Ellie, OK? And so she says I'm pregnant,

(39:15):
hoping that he would stay. He did not stay.
He did, ultimately, he did not stay.
So we're still getting it. They will.
He's like well, Co parent and it'll be great and whatever.
So she's like, well shoot, I'm not pregnant, what am I going to
do? Well, he's a neighbor.
Right now I'm lying. I'm sorry I tried to get you to
stay on lying. Nope, she's full on double S

(39:37):
down. She double S down.
Her neighbor is a single dad whoturns out to be Doug.
The child is Doug's. He he had a little baby.
That's right, Doug. Doug had a baby that he was
parenting on his own. So they decide he's like, OK,
great, we can say that this babyis your baby, and then we can
make him pay child support so wecan get some.

(39:59):
That daddy's deadly secrets. That's one of them.
We think it OK. We think it right.
Yep. So she puts a pillow in her
belly and walks around and, you know, does the whole thing.
No one knew. No one knew, she goes.
On full taking lives bit is whatshe does.
Yeah, we don't unfortunately geta montage.

(40:20):
I would love that. I I like the one thing like that
I would have liked some sort of explanation for is like Richard
never tried to like see his babyin the hospital.
Like how did they how'd the birth part of this go?
Like was she like, I'm so mad atyou?
Like you're not allowed in the hospital for birth, but then

(40:40):
like we can Co parent like that's totally cool.
That part is foggy. But obviously they convinced
Richard that this is their baby and literally just for child
support, buddy. Right.
Don't ask too many questions. It was like maybe they had it in
a taxi, like we don't know. So Caroline is is starting to

(41:02):
like, OK, things are really going down.
She's she's like start looking around things and she finds some
paperwork. I don't know now that now that I
know that Darla's dead. Was this at Darla's house where
she finds all this paperwork? Yes, all right, great.
OK, so I thought it was Abigail.I thought it was Abigail, but
why does this child have all this?
No. File.

(41:23):
So Caroline obviously wants to find out what's really going on.
Why was Beth, who's actually Darla, clearly she knew that I
was the wife to Richard. Like what?
Why was she doing all this? So she breaks into a a active
crime scene and begins to she goes straight to the cabinets

(41:48):
that she saw all of those stuffed animals in.
Are you following? You got it.
And somehow that leads her to knowing exactly where to find
this folder, which is you kind of knock twice and the thing
falls down and then there's a clap.
Three times it's a crystal. It's a crystal dance and it's a
folder and inside of this folderis a ton of information,

(42:09):
including the picture of her at night time through the window.
Remember the flash of light? So I guess that was her.
But also just a bunch of information, like it says like
she's with a happy family now and all of this stuff that's it
seems like she was putting together some sort of case about

(42:30):
Abigail and and maybe she wantedto get to know Abigail, which is
why she had it. Like there's lots of like loose
ends here, but it's clear she was building some sort of case,
OK, to show that Abigail was with a loving family.
Got it. Yes, she might.
Be home. Well, well, wait for it,

(42:51):
because. Daddy's deadly.
Son finds a address or some. For some reason she goes to.
I think, I think the on the outside, she was gonna mail the
envelope, I believe. I believe it had the address on
it or there was an address in it.
Where that address leave. Let's find out after this break
here on deck, the homework. See what I did, see what I did?
It's a tease. Impressive.

(43:13):
It's a teaser. Welcome back.
Welcome back. OK, thank you.
We are back. So Caroline goes to this house.
The house is like, you know, obviously no one's there.
She's like hello, hello. And she hears some like banging

(43:33):
and oh, actually, sorry. No, somebody is there.
She. Knocks on the door and who?
Knocks the door. It's somebody that we know.
It's one of the the the they have a job.
No, it's not Parker. Another girl.
No, it's not the runaway girls. One more try, Richard.
No, it's Marianne, the crossing guard.

(43:55):
The crossing guard. Yeah, of course.
And so Marianne's like, what areyou doing here?
And she's like, I just want. I don't come out here often.
I would. It's not a good excuse.
No, she doesn't really have it. And then there's a, a, a
knocking sound or some type of sound, and Marianne's like, it's
the pipes, it's the pipes, don'tworry.

(44:16):
And Caroline's like, I'm just gonna go check.
I'm just gonna go check, push this past her, goes to check,
opens the door and busts in the room.
And Abigail is like lying on a little bed, like a little Angel.
Just like chilling. It doesn't explain why the pipes
were making sounds, but we never.
But Abigail is alive. She's well.
Was she not banging around? She was not banging on the

(44:37):
pipes. She, she what, super chill.
So I think she's asleep. And it's at this point that
Caroline begins to stumble around, and it's clear that
she's been drugged. Caroline's been.
Drugged. Caroline's been drugged by
Marianne. By Marianne with what?
They had they had tea. Tea or something.
Yeah. So then I guess there's a part

(45:02):
where where Marianne literally like punches Caroline in the
face, which doesn't really happen in a lot of Lifetime
movies. So.
So she's trying to escape, right?
So she wakes up and she's in this chair and she starts like
she's in a room and she's banging on the door.
And Abigail comes to the door and it's like, who is it?

(45:24):
And it's like, it's me. It's it's, it's Caroline.
She's like son of a gun. That's crazy.
And oh, gosh, man, I meant to pull this audio 'cause it's
hilarious. But Abigail, I'm sorry.
Caroline. Yeah.
Caroline and Abigail are talkingthrough the door and she can't
figure out how to open the door,OK?
She's like, it's locked. I don't know what to do.

(45:44):
And Caroline's like, oh, shucks.And Abigail's like, I got an
idea. What if you pull while I push?
And then the door will open and Caroline goes, Abigail, how'd
you get so smart? What?
And then they do that, except I think the reverse of it.
She, Caroline pushes while Abigail pulls.

(46:05):
Whatever they say, it doesn't. It's not what ends up happening.
But the door does open. But unfortunately, Marion's
there again. And that's when they get in a
little bit of the fight situation.
Oh, that's when the the punch happens.
And then Caroline wakes up in a chair again, but this time she's
duct taped to the chair and she ain't going.

(46:26):
She ain't going anywhere. She ain't going anywhere.
You might be wondering how's shegoing to how's she going to get
saved? How, how is it going to happen?
What are we going to do? So at this point in time,
Richard, Doug, Elle and Parker are all together and, and Parker

(46:51):
puts a thumb drive and a computer and she's gonna pull
all of like Caroline's data or something, I don't know.
But the thumb drive's connected to her keys.
More on that in a second. And Abigail gets out of the
house and runs to a horse area A.

(47:13):
Horse. Area.
In front of the stables. The stables.
And I don't know, like there's awoman at Mr. Is not there.
No, Mr. is not there. There is a woman there.
That is not there. We don't get any explanation who
this woman is, but there is, luckily for her, a phone.
And so she calls Richard and it's a cell phone, Parker says.

(47:35):
Great. We can trace it.
We'll just keep them on the line.
Yeah. And so she's talking.
They find out where they is. That they are.
They find out where they is. And Parkers.
Like. It's a horse area.
Parkers like great. I know exactly where they are.
Here's the address. I'm gonna say that loud.
And Richard's like, great, I'm going to go with you.

(47:55):
Parker's like, absolutely not. And So what Richard does here is
so great. Richard grabs Parker's keys
because they're connected to thethumb drive and runs off and
gets in the car and drives off the police car.
So no, his car, but he has her keys.
So Parker, the police officer doesn't have keys, which is
hilarious. And she's like dad gumming.

(48:17):
So they arrive obviously at the place, they see Marianne, they
see Caroline, and they're able they they they they get them
good, they get them good. They got OK, Yeah.
But before, before they bust in,Caroline kind of explains, I'm

(48:39):
sorry. Marianne explains that she is
Abigail's mom, real mom, and that when after she had Abigail,
Doug, who was abusive, who abused me, took the baby and I
didn't know. I didn't know who I didn't know
where where they were. And I had given up hope.

(49:01):
But then I was contacted by, by by by Darla, by Darla, because
Darla had wanted to get in contact with Richard, wasn't
able to, and somehow found out that there was the how did they
find out the how did she track down Marianne?

(49:24):
Do you remember? Nope.
OK, no clue. So like she tracked down
Marianne and was basically like,hey, we should get the baby, get
the try to get you back in contact with your daughter.
And that's why she was doing allthat reconnaissance.

(49:44):
And then she realized. It doesn't really matter.
That part doesn't really matter.Right.
It does. It doesn't really matter aside
from the fact that inside of thefolder was the news story of the
of the murder from the beginning.
If you remember the murder show that she was watching the
testimony and she said she said that that Darla had figured out

(50:12):
a way for all of us to be involved in the life of the
baby, that we didn't need to kidnap Abigail.
But I didn't have time for that.And so Darla had figured
something out, but Marian didn'twant to hear it.
OK. OK.
All right. I guess so that so the the crew
runs in and and they Marianne gets arrested and everybody goes

(50:36):
back to normal. No.
Go ahead. What is happening?
They're they're so right. OK, Basically what was happening
was Marianne and Caroline are having a conversation.
The other people are outside. They're like, we found Abigail.
Hooray. But then they're like, where's
Caroline? They all go inside.

(50:57):
Caroline and Marianne are are fighting it out and Doug gets
like like a knife from Mary Ann.She has like a kitchen knife of
course, and he starts going crazy.
No, no. You're mixing up two different
scenes, Patrick. So Mary.
Mary watched this movie. Yes.

(51:17):
Mary. Mary Ann gets arrested.
OK, They all go back. Yes, they all go back to
Richard's house. It's Richard.
It's Richard. It's Caroline, it's Ellie, and
it's Duck, OK? And it's at this point that
Caroline goes up to Abigail's room and it's like, I'm so happy
you're home and, and is giving her a hug.

(51:38):
And Abigail is like, I feel I felt really bad.
And she basically explains that she went to Marianne willingly
because she felt so bad. Like Marianne was really nice to
her. She felt really bad about
lashing out at Ellie. And she explains that Doug, Doug
reminded me that just because hehits mommy doesn't make it OK

(51:59):
for me to hit mommy and like allthis stuff.
And I said this point that Caroline is like, oh, my gosh,
Marianne maybe wasn't insane. And so she pulls Ellie into the
bathroom. And it's like, hey, I need you
to explain to me is, are you being abused?
And she begins to SOB. And she is like, OK, I think I

(52:22):
have figured this whole thing out.
I think what Darla was trying totell us in this thing is that
the killer is Doug, that Doug killed his at his, the woman
before you found you and now is being abusive again.
So they go out to confront him and and they see Richard is on

(52:44):
the ground and Doug, I guess, figured out when she called
Ellie into the bathroom. OK, they're in cahoots.
They're going to try to get me. That's when he grabs a knife and
it said there's an amazing moment where Caroline tells
Ellie to run, and Ellie, insteadof running any other direction,
runs straight to Doug. Doug throws her on the ground

(53:06):
and Caroline begins to be like, I know what happened, you killed
somebody. And he basically admits to
everything. He's like, yeah, I killed her,
but it wasn't my fault. Like, she pushed me and I
accidentally pushed her and thenshe died.
And anytime I abuse a woman, it's it's not my fault.
I'm not a murderer. I'm not an abuser.
I just have a temper problem, blah, blah, blah.
And he grabs her. Richard finally comes to and

(53:30):
tries to get him and he puts theknife to Richard head, is about
to stab him when Caroline smashes a vase over Doug's head,
sending him to the ground and heends up getting arrested by
Parker. Yes.
Daddy's deadly secret? Yes.
Wow. Does that all sound right?

(53:51):
There we go. We got there.
I mean, there, there was many false endings to this movie
where I was like, OK, we're donewith the movie and.
Then that's Daddy's. That's technically Daddy's
deadly secret. Daddy's deadly secret is that he
actually did kill somebody. He did he.
He did. He did.
So the title was correct. So that is pretty much the movie

(54:12):
they like. People go to jail.
Ellie gets community service. Like, you know, we're all good.
We're all good, yeah. Ellie gets community service for
the like, lying, like the fact that she lied about having a
daughter kidding, like all that stuff.
Mary Mary Ann is like still in jail and I'm like for freaking

(54:35):
what? Like she took her daughter back.
Big whoop. Like she shouldn't be in jail
but whatever. But they I from best best I can
figure, Abigail is now living with Richard and Caroline full
time, and Richard and Caroline also adopt A new daughter as
well since Richard can't have kids because of opioids.
Right, that whole thing. If you remember.

(54:56):
Yeah, 'cause it's not juice. Juice is loose.
Yes. How could I forget?
Okay, that's the movie. Now it's time for pour it up or
put a cork in it. We'll start with Dan.
I have an idea of where you're going, but tell me what you
think. Put a cork in it.
I I I get that a lot happened and for that reason it is
probably better than your average lifetime.

(55:18):
Fair, but with plot holes this big I just can't possibly Like
last week's was just last time we did this was just very
exciting. Like I was actually first time I
went to watch one of these in a while.
This is not that. This is not mommy meanest.
I am fine having heard the two of you together try to explain
this and still feel as though I'm a little wonky on the

(55:41):
details. I'm out.
Hard out for me. No thanks.
Put a cork in it. OK, Bran, what do you think?
I appreciate what they're tryingto do here.
I appreciate that everything that they introduced mattered.
They just introduced so much andyou really, you really had to,

(56:08):
to really pay attention to all the moving parts.
And I think it was just one too many things, like there's just
one too many things. I think you could have done this
a little bit simpler. It said it was based on a true
story. I tried to find out what that
true story was. I couldn't.
I couldn't find it but. Oh gosh, yeah.

(56:28):
Yeah, and I, I think I'm gonna put a cork in it, even though I,
I, I do appreciate it. OK, very, very.
Yeah. I agree that it was like many
too many. We love A twist, but this was
like twist, twist, twist, twist.Too many twists.
If the if the first twist is coming in like the first like 30
minutes, we're like, Oh yeah, wait, what?

(56:50):
This isn't supposed to come tilllater.
It's a real Argyle. Situation.
Yes, and then, you know, we needto talk about about the, the,
the Steve Buyer's face of it all, his face 'cause it's this
is only fair. This is only fair.
I do this to I talked about LisaBrana's fish lips last time and

(57:13):
and this man also has some, someplastic surgery going on to keep
his face looking fresh. And it, it's looking, it's
looking scary. It's looking it doesn't it, it's
not looking like a human face atthis point, you know.
So for those reasons, I got to put a cork in it more for the,

(57:34):
the face than anything. We're on, we're on Lifetime.
We have, we have hot people only.
That's why I was in a Lifetime movie.
That's right, of course. So you know, when our hot stars
are getting to the age of not playing the hot stars, they have
to move up to like grandpa in a Christmas movie or something.
We got to, we got to move on. You know what?

(57:57):
It's a triple cork. It's a triple cork.
Patrick, thank you so much. Lifetime on cork.com to read all
of Patrick's reviews, not just on the movies that we talk about
here, but on all of them. There's all the Lifetime movies
over on Lifetime on cork.com. And of course, you could have
watched this movie and watched us on file or file DTH the best
place to watch Lifetime. Hallmark all those channels,

(58:19):
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