Checking in w/ Danielle & Cassie from National Park After Dark

On April 23rd, 2025, we hosted a nearly five-hour livestream to celebrate our current studio, which we'll be leaving later this spring due to upcoming building renovations. During the event, we interviewed Danielle and Cassie from National Park After Dark. Our conversation covered their recent adventure in Antarctica, their new show Watch Her Cook, some of their most chilling hiking experiences, and a few memorable, funny moments. We hope you enjoy the interview!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:12):
What's up, everybody. Mike is fixing a TV right now.
This is the problem with live streaming. You figure it out.
We're watching the stream on another TV to make sure
it works. And he hit the volume all the way
up so we would just repeat in the background. Christina
says she called it and sent a text here and there.
But we're here. Oh, I gotta turn your mic on.
There we go, we're here. Andy's not cominguntil later. I'm

(00:36):
gonna actually remove that video, maybe hide it off in
the corner until he comes. There we go, all right,
it's weird. This is weird.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Starting at seven, the hosts of the National Park after
Dark will be joining us, and then from eight to eight.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Thirty, we've got the host some Crime off the Grid.
So they were.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Two law enforcement park rangers for thirty years in the
National Park system, so I'm really excited to talk to
them about their stories.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
If you put nice comments up, I'm just gonna throw
them up on the book. So if you want to
be seen, just say really cool, nice things and I'll
throw it up there.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
And then from eight thirty to nine, we've got our
members only call that everyone can watch, and you could
still sign up for Patreon in the next hour and
join that call if you'd like.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh, so this isn't like a marathon call in now, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Oh, we do have a number that people can call in.
We'll have to figure out on the fly how to
get that to work. And then from nine to ten.
Andy should hopefully be here by then, and we're going
to go through a bunch of voicemails we have and
just react to some comments and just.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
Andy just that they had a new baby. Yeah, so
he's on daddy duty. He had to come a little
bit later. Yeah, and our pizza is.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Going to get delivered, like, yeah, we have food coming.
It's gonna be a long night. And then we've got
Evan to wrap it up. And he could talk for
five hours probably yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
We yeah, we'll talk for the five hours. So yeah, awesome,
Here we go, Here we go. Add to stream. Hey Danielle,
what's up.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
It's good to see you guys.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Good to see you too. How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Crazy busy? Cassie said, she's backstage. Oh you can see
all of us, so she's here.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Okay, how you doing? Welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
I was like blurred out in the back and then
could see you guys, and it's like I feel like
I'm eavesdropping on a conversation.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
That is awesome, though, no worries.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
We we've been the first half hour we were just
getting our sea legs with the stream.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, we're still figuring it out, but it's all right.
That's how we do things here. Just not coordinated at all.
All right, I think we're there. Mike, you're just really dark.
I know, I don't know what's going on. That's that's right.

Speaker 6 (02:50):
You like it's just your shadow with your back.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, smoking man from like one of those documentaries where
I don't my face scene and I just talk.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
So it looks like that. You just need one of
those voiceovers where your voice is no. Yeah, absolutely, it
would be perfect.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
No, it's this time of day. We never record this early.
It's always dark. As it gets darker, I'll up here.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
All right. There's people who like your show more the
says I love NP eight. That's good. I was encourage it.
So hey, thanks for doing this. This is awesome. You
guys have been killing it recently. You got a new
show coming out. You want to just give us all
an update of what you've been up to and about
your new show.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Yeah, well since the last time we talked, because we
talked last summer, right, yes, yeah, yeah, so a lot
has happened.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
We've been all over the place. I moved again, which
is nothing new.

Speaker 4 (03:46):
But yeah, we started a new show because we felt like, hey,
we're busy six out of seven days a week, we
should bump that up.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Right now we have a free day.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
So yeah, Cassie was really the driving force behind our
sister podcast.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
It's called Watch Her Cook.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
And for the last few years, we've just been finding
these stories of incredible women in our research for National
Park After Dark that maybe didn't fit the exact like
parameters of the existing show, but we kept coming across
them and putting them on the you know, on the
back burner, saying we'll come back to you, and that's

(04:27):
why we began Watch Her Cook.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
No, that's fantastic. So how's the show going? I mean,
you've just was it? Did you start a couple of
weeks ago? You were launched it? How many episodes do
you have now?

Speaker 6 (04:37):
We just really start fourth episode today. Yeah, we've been
I guess technically this is our third week.

Speaker 5 (04:44):
We launched on April ninth, I believe but we launched
two episodes on the first day and then we had
two more come out since and we come out every Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Well, and yeah, it helps that you guys have the
really successful National p After Dark to kind of give
it that initial boost, because I remember when we started
out and we would have months where we'd get fifty downloads,
like ten of them are.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Me Yeah just a loop?

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Yeah, yes, well that's exciting.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
How does the preparation because I go through this with
our show, But how is it different doing a show
on disappearances versus your new show?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
I will say that this one, it's so different because
and I kind of felt like we had to start
a new podcast because none of these stories fit the
narrative of National Parks. But they were all very warranted
of store of telling the stories themselves, but very different
because they're not all outdoor based. Yeah, and it's all

(05:50):
surrounding women, which obviously National Park after Dark is not.
We tell stories of everything and anything that is outdoor related.
And also, I will say in National Park after Dark,
we really lean into the darker things, and with Watch
Her Cook, we do lean into the darker things, and
that's definitely going to be more apparent as episodes come out,

(06:11):
but we're also leaning into more of the more of
the inspiring stories and the people who kind of beat
the odds and maybe not so much devastating like disaster stories,
where there's actually some good outcomes that happen in Watch
Her Cook, which isn't as popular of a theme in
National Park after Dark.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
I'm sure good for your mental health though, So it's
just not always doom and gloom all the time.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah, it's very characteristic of like, it's very telling of
our personalities too. I'm the black Cat to Cassie's Golden Retrievers,
So Watch Your Cook is very Cassie coded with like,
look at all this amazing stuff, and I'm like, yeah,
but death, no one died.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Nice.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
It's nice to have that balance because it, you know,
it does as you very well know, these stories are
heavy that you're researching and just like dedicating weeks of
your life to researching and when it's doom and gloom
a lot, it takes an actual toll on your life and.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Your mental health.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
So this is a nice additive to lighten the load
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, it's fantastic. We have a front of ours that
worked on crime Junkies, and she said it literally is
like a mental health issue when you're looking at crime
scene photos all the time and you have like these
workers who are researching, they would take like mental health
breaks because you're just looking at death and crime scenes constantly,
and like that's not good for people to see all

(07:42):
the time.

Speaker 5 (07:44):
That is part of like when we went into Watch
Her Cook, too, I think a big part of it
is just as women, when you're looking at all these
true crime stories, unfortunately a majority of them are involving
women who are victims. And with Watch Her Cook, it
was this moment where were we like true crime just
like the rest of us, we all consume it because

(08:05):
there is an interest there, but at the same time,
we were kind of tired of this narrative that women
are victims, and we wanted to change that narrative and
be like, wait a minute, there are all of these
stories of women that are in such a different role
that are powerful. Maybe they're not the victims at all,
maybe they're the perpetrators.

Speaker 6 (08:21):
You know, Like it's just.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
We wanted to paint women in their full like multifaceted
selves versus just these victim narratives. That are often portrayed
and even in our own show. So we found Watch
Her Cook as a way to really bring these stories forward.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
It's fantastic. That's awesome. So I'm glad you got it.
Go on. I'm glad we can direct everyone who doesn't
already know, which I'm sure they do. But if you don't,
go subscribe to Watch Your Cook right now.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I've actually had a few comments on various episodes of
people after our last talk last summer where they actually
discover your show for the first time from us, which
I was kind of shocked.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
So you got like three or four people.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
You're welcome, so thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
So before our call, I was kind of looking through
your instagram, your show's instagram, just to see what you
were up to, and I was scrolling down and I
saw a picture of you guys in Antarctica, So yeah,
could I could you fill us in on what you
were doing down there, like how that came about and
what your experience was like, because I would love to

(09:34):
go there at some point, but it's seems like a
tough place to get to.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Well, we can, I can take I'll take the topic
of how it came about and speak to the experience
part because GEUS like Antarctica's number one fan. As far
as how it came about, I think we talked a
little bit the last time about our group trips that
we do with National Park After Dark listeners, and that

(09:58):
was one of them. So we took a group of
fourteen listeners down to the bottom of the world through
our group trip. We launched it two years ago, so
it went on sale two years ago and finally came
to fruition. Obviously, it was a really involved and big trip,
not just because it's Antarctica, but just logistically getting there

(10:21):
and organizing it and all of that. But yeah, so
we flew we all flew down to Ushuaia, which is
the southernmost point of South America, and then we took
a ship from across Drake's Passage to the Antarctic Peninsula,
where we spent most of our time while we were
down there, and then came off.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
So did it take two years to fill the trip?

Speaker 3 (10:44):
No, it took one minute.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Oh really, that's awesome. That was all just logistics and planning.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah, and just giving time for people to prep and
of course it's a huge trip, not just like taking
the time off and upping, but also like it's a
big monetary expense like for everybody involved, So just giving
people time to make payments and do that.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
We would never just be like, Okay, well you need
to pay us.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Right now or you can't come take some time, like
we all need time to figure this out.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
So yeah, that's why there was such a big lead time.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
So did you see that? Did you see the ice
walls that? Because you know it's flat earth and did
you Guys?

Speaker 4 (11:28):
A few people said that to me when I came
back and like, I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
You've never heard of this. It's apparently Inca was just
a big ice wall keeping everything from falling off into
space or whatever.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Now I know, yeah, beforehand.

Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yeah, and there's there's allegedly like an alien.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Yeah, you guys could have done a whole episode on
that and got a whole new genre of listener, the conspiracy. Yes,
So what was Each of you can answer this? What
was your favorite thing about Antarctica?

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Go for it, Cassie me Y, Yeah, or do I
start everything about it?

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I think that one of my favorite parts about Antarctica
was I knew when we booked the trip that when
I got there that it was going to be breathtaking
and it was going to be beautiful, and it was
going to be like it was going to be unlike
anywhere else that I had ever been. But I didn't
really realize the magnitude of that until I was looking
at it. And it is a trip that I will

(12:38):
always It's the best place I've ever been in my life.
But I think one of the things that makes it
so special is that it's truly untouched, minus a couple
like science stations that are around. It's truly untouched, and
you are immersed in the wildlife that's there. You know,
we were Danielle and I did part of the trip.

(12:59):
We went paddle boarding, and I was paddle boarding.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
And well, we were all were We were.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
In a group and there were just penguins just swimming
around us. And then at another point there's a furst
seal that's just spinning and having a nice time swimming
alongside us, and then you just look and there's just there's.

Speaker 6 (13:19):
A whale over in the other corner.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
It's just it was so beautiful and it was really quiet,
but there was nothing, There were no big structures, there
was no just it wasn't spoiled by people.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, you could be mindful for once. Yeah, that's fantastic.
That sounds amazing. You sold me. I want to go
paddle boarding in Antarctica. You should, Danielle. Danielle was your favorite?

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Oh god, I have a I definitely have a couple
favorite moments, but overall, I think my favorite part of
the entire trip, aside from what Cassie is being somewhere
and traveling somewhere where we were.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
So how do I say this?

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Everything about that trip was how we need to be
good stewards of this area and this landscape or you're
not going.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's like there is no this is a suggestion.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Like hey, you should probably pick up your trash, and
you know, don't approach a wildlife but like people still do,
Like they are so dead serious about that stuff, and
it is so refreshing to see. And there are so
many laws and regulations and parameters put in place for
visitors down there that are just so nice to see

(14:43):
taken so seriously by everybody, visitors and expedition leaders and everybody.
Everything from going through biosecurity, like anything in your outer
layer from your hats, your scarves, your gloves to everything
you're wearing needs to be vacuumed, depart for any lint
or anything that could blow off and potentially impact the environment.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Like before you step off the shift the ship, you
need to do that.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
You need to sanitize your feet before you leave and
when you come back, like it is just so it's
just so thorough and on our way down they took
a lot of time because it took two and a
half days to get down there by boat.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
They took that opportunity.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
To really educate the entire ship about the importance of
that stuff and why that those parameters are put in place,
And it was just really nice because you don't see
that anywhere else. It's always about people's experience and there
it's like we are privileged to be there and we

(15:45):
are just visitors and we need to be super respectful
of such a fragile ecosystem.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh yeah, that was really cool to see place that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
And that just means when you get there, how you
describe your experience untouched. That's time they maintain that don't
show up and there's just like a TwixT wrapper just
floating around in the middle of Antarctica.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
And it's a really unique place to go because there's
really not anywhere else I can think of that you
can really claim is still pristine and untouched anymore, which
is sad to say. Even Joe and I talked about
this all the time. How mad I get when I'm
I've been out hiking and I see garbage, yes, in
the parks, and like I'll pick it up and throw
it at my bag.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yeah, we always come back with more stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah, I always come back with more garbage than I
even brought with. And yeah, it's just that kind of
takes away some of the being out there is you
see in all this garbage everywhere, and so that's got
to be really amazing to be somewhere where it literally
is pristine and clean and people actually are trying to
protect it.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
So that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
Yeah, And we when we went down like at the
in Ushweia, obviously it's a big port town, Like there's
a bunch there's a bunch of ships that were all
gearing up to head down there at some point. But
after we left that harbor, we didn't see anybody else.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
I we never saw anybody else.

Speaker 4 (17:05):
So the people that were on the ship there was
what one hundred and ninety nine passengers aside from them,
not another human, not another ship, a boat building.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
That had people in it. Like, there's a.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
Couple of stations that we saw that were literally overtaken
by penguins, like a million of penguins.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
Yeah, that's awesome, crushing it was so cool.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
How big are the penguins? Were they like Emperor penguins,
the ones to get like four feet tall.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Sometimes we didn't see those.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
We saw like Gentoo's and Adeli's Like, I don't know,
I like this big.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
That's still cool like that those are pretty that's pretty
big now, bigger than ones I see at the zoo,
that's for sure. Yeah. Yeah, How was the weather while
you were there? Was it cold? Yeah, well, obviously cold,
but there's degrees of cold.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
To be honest, it wasn't that bad. There were days.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
I think one of the days were there was like
thirty four degrees, so it really it was it's definitely
winter weather down there, but it really wasn't like we
wore jackets and sometimes we had something over our mouth
or something, but for the most part, I think it
was between like fifteen and.

Speaker 6 (18:13):
Thirty four degrees. The whole time we were there.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
It was like winter weather for us, but it was
their summer.

Speaker 5 (18:18):
Okay, Yeah, it was warmer in Antarctica than it was
in Vermont.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
That's that's actually really funny.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yeah, it happens here too, where it'll be warmer in Anchorage, Alaska.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Did you guys have a trip coming up in the
beginning of May. We do, Yeah, you have. One of
your fans says, we'll see on May third.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
So actually, well Friday going a little early, but we're
going to Joshua Tree and we're doing an event there
with some listeners.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Oh that's awesome. That's cool. So what's that event about.

Speaker 6 (18:48):
We're doing a live show and so we're going to
Excellent Podcast and.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Then we're doing a camp weekend that has a believe
of sixty or sixty six people. We're all going to
camp for the weekend and we have hikes and some
little fun things to do, some campfire stuff for the
weekend in Joshua Tree.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
That's really awesome. That's so cool. So you guys are
just doing this full time now, right. I think when
we first started talking you were kind of in between,
but you're just all in now on this and it's
going real Well, yeah, that's fantastic.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
We don't have time for, not enough hours in the day.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Do you still love it for sure? Then there you go.
That's all that matters, that's what you need to do.
That's awesome. You do have a question from a fan
from Holly Eckland. I'm new to hiking getting my feet wet?
Which was each of your scariest hiking experiences? And you've
encountered animals, elements, et cetera. So Daniel, you.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
Do you want to know our scariest moments.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Our scariest moments hiking.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, or experiences, whether it's encountered animals, yeah, anything outdoor?
What was your scariest experiences?

Speaker 4 (19:57):
The one that comes to mind right off the bat.
It wasn't exactly like I wasn't scared to death, but
it definitely shook me up a little bit. I was
living in Washington State at the time with my partner Ian,
and we there's a hike out there that everybody in
Washington is very familiar with.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
It's called Mailbox Peak.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
And it's brutal and you usually have to get up
pretty early to get going on it. And because we
lived about three hours away, we decided to drive to
the around the trailhead and camp the night before so
we could get up before sunrise and hit it, and
so we had to have a little pole behind camper.
It's like a little off road camper and it's about

(20:37):
the size of a queen size bed. You can lay
down in it and that's about it. So it's pretty tiny,
but it's pretty rugged and solid. And we were in
the back of it with my two dogs sleep and
all of a sudden, I like, I'm a pretty light sleeper,
and all of a sudden, I was like I went
like that and I woke up and I was like,

(20:58):
what the heck was that?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
But the dogs weren't reacting. Ian was asleep, so I
didn't really think anything of it. And then all of a.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
Sudden, it was like I was like, okay, this hole shaking.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
So I woke Ian up.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
I'm pretty sure there's a bear. There's a bear trying
to get because there the back has a little galley
area where you know, for storage and stuff, and I
was like, where did you put the trash because we
had cooked and he was like he just looked at
me in silence. I'm like, oh shit, So yeah, the

(21:33):
shaking continued, and this is a three thousand pound camper.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
So something if something's moving and it's either a vehicle
or something big.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Right, and we're in the middle of the one, I'm like,
you know, like off a logging road.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
So I'm like, okay, I know what this is.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
So I just banged on the side of the door
and said the classic hey bear, you know whatever.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
And then I was like, all.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
Right, get out there and go check it. So yeah,
we both go outside and and with my headlamp, I
could see there was very clear claw marks and bear
prints on the back of the camper, and so yeah,
it wasn't like super scary, but it was definitely startling
and definitely woke us up a little bit as too,

(22:16):
Like he's like, well, there's no trash cans around here.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I'm like, I have a bear, Like I have like
a bear.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
You know, sealed.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
But anyway, whatever that.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Was, that that would terrify me.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
It was a black bear because of where we were,
so that really eased my anxiety. If we were in
Montana or Idaho or why, like, I would have been
a little bit more right.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, black bears are like scared little dogs. If you have.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
It's still not fun to be woken up in the
middle of the night one trying to like claw through
your camper though, Yeah, awesome, all right, Cassie.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
What's your extreme scary experience?

Speaker 6 (22:54):
Extreme scary? This one?

Speaker 5 (22:56):
Also, I wouldn't call it extreme scary, but I do
think if you get into the outdoors like pretty, if
you're pretty new, this is I guess a good one
to not do what I did. So this was years
ago now, but I was in the White Mountains and
my partner and I we decided that we were going
to go hiking, and we were going to go to

(23:18):
what's called the Bond Cliffs, and it's a really long hike.

Speaker 6 (23:22):
It's like twenty one miles if you do it in
one day.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
And we decided that we were going to hike out
and camp overnight, and then we were going to do
the hike partially, camp overnight, and then hike back the
next day, so just to split it up a little bit.
But we knew there was some dicey weather that was
coming in. So we get out there and we start

(23:46):
hiking and the first I want to say, the first
three miles of this trail is flat. It's actually comical
because it leads to these natural waterfalls. So when you're
hiking back, there's a bunch of people in flip carrying
like beer cans to go swimming.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
And we've been hiking a mile, but on the.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Way out there, we hardly get in and it starts
pouring on us, and it's the wind comes.

Speaker 6 (24:11):
In as howling. There's actually a.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Tropical storm that we knew was coming in. And we
went out anyway, and we got a mile and a
half in and we said we should take shelter, and
so we set up a tent underneath like there was
a tree that was kind of falling onto another tree,

(24:34):
so we were underneath and we set up camp and
we slept that night, and I was awake all night
because this storm was so bad. There were like sixty
mile per hour winds. There were trees falling down all
around us. It's pouring rain. We don't have a waterproof
tent really, so it's also getting wet inside.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
And I'm just sitting there. He's fast asleep over there, laying.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
There listening to all of these trees just falling.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Down around us, and I'm like, I'm going to die.
I'm gonna die.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
Tonight, like I'm going to get crushed by a tree.
There's no why are we out here. We're a mile
and a half.

Speaker 6 (25:14):
Into the woods. We could have stayed in a hotel.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
But we survived and the next morning my shoes were wet,
but we hiked out. Oh, like we did the whole hike.
It was really far. But as we were walking along
the trail, we saw all of the trees that were
down and there were just branches like littering the whole trail.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
There's full trees down, and I was just like we
were so close.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Even around where our tent was, there were trees down
that were like pretty close to us. But we had
a covered spot because we were under the tree a
little bit.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
But don't recommend camping in a tropical storm. If you can,
if you can't it.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, that is why that's actually one of my most
terrifying things to think of out as a tree falling
on you. They call him wittle makers, because yeah, that's
just what a terrible way to go.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I always look whenever I'm backcountry hiking and camping. The
first thing I do but like to find a campsite
is I look up to make sure there's no tree
branches over me.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
So yeah, we're like a kind of dead tree over you.
It's like here, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
You guys are incredibly This.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
Isn't my story, but I remember when I was working
in outdoor education. There was a guy that I worked with,
and he was with a group of kids because we
worked with twelve year olds, and it was a little
windy that day, nothing big, but he had stopped to
talk about I don't know, it was like some type
of plant life he had stopped to talk about.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
And while he was talking to the.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Group, right behind him, a huge tree fell and hit
the ground like a foot away from him.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
Imagine if.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
He had stepped a foot forward, he would have been
crushed in the middle of his present sit.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
In front of kids. Yeah, like generations of trauma and damage,
just like I went on a hike once and the
guy got crushed by a tree in front of me.
I went on a.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
School trip and it was supposed to be great, and
now I'm in there.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, I think I would be in therapy as an adult.
I would never go out in the woods. If you
just saw a tree randomly fall and crush somebody, I
would be terrified to go outside. That's wild. So you
do the trail That actually is a good segue because
you do the trail tales where it's your use of
the listeners submit stories. What's your favorite trail tales that

(27:34):
have been told from people? And I also wanted to ask,
do you how do you verify that they're true? We don't.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Okay, you just trust you think it's interesting and I'll
show up on the show.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
We were laughing because I think we have the same answer.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, the same answer.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
So we get so many good stories, whether they're true
or not, we're going to say they're true from everything.
But started off pretty like solidly outdoor National Park based
and then now obviously it's evolved, but there's one story.
It's got to be what two years ago now two
three years ago. It was an early on story and

(28:15):
the way it was written was so immediately comedically, perfectly timed,
and just like it read so well, because sometimes the
meat of the story is great, but sometimes like the
wording around it, it's like you have to dig to
get there. But this was just like Chef's Kiss, so good.
But essentially this woman was kind of newish to hiking.

(28:38):
But essentially she went out with you know, all the
great all this great gear and whatever, and it started
to drizzle and rain, and she looks down and like
her crotch was foaming, and she's like, what the.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
Hell, hold on, what did you just say?

Speaker 3 (28:55):
Her crotch was foaming.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Her crotch was like foam? Was it? Angry?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
So now she was like.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
Going through all the stages of grief, like what it's
going on down here?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Like confusion, disappointment, like anger.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
You're like denial, you know, just bargaining with it.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
What's happening.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
And she's going through all these things, and she's like
wiping it away, trying it because she's clearly like embarrassed,
and so she's trying to wipe it away, but it
keeps getting it keeps coming back, and it starts writing harder,
so it gets worse and worse.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
She's like, it's like a washing machine. Now.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
It was so funny, but anyways, long story short, it
was like the detergent that she had used in her
pants and the friction of like that one.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Spot which she what was it called the foaming pants
or something.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
She's hard to do.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Oh my god, it's so good.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
The best part about that.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
The best part about that story too, is that she
came in and part of her story she was like,
can someone else tell me?

Speaker 6 (30:12):
Has this happened to you?

Speaker 5 (30:14):
And we got a flot of messages of other women
with foaming pants?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Is this like a thing?

Speaker 6 (30:21):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (30:22):
Yeah, I've never heard that, Like fabric will hold the
like detergent, or if you haven't washed them yet and
then they get wet and they haven't cleaned some of
the fibers or something out of it, like when the.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Friction causes like a weird We don't.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Know the exact science behind it, but we do know
it's a common So I come.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
From the world of pharmaceutical clinical trials. I feel like
you have enough data sets where you could figure out
if it's a specific type of washing machine, specific type
of fabric, or specific type of detergent. It could be a.

Speaker 6 (30:56):
Very interesting study.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
What hiking pants women should not wear in the rain?
And why?

Speaker 3 (31:04):
What reading? I think it's my eyes, my monitors kind
of far.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
From me, But I think Gabrielle said she hadn't washed
her pants before washing them, it was because of that.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
I think that's what it was.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
Yeah, material that I don't know whatever, it was so funny.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, so that was a that was the most memorable
one for sure.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
That's amazing. I've never heard of that.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
I'm assuming that's never happened in any of your hiking
trips with your listeners, so.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
Not that we've noticed.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Yeah, Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I've never seen that before.
That's hilarious. Crotch foaming yep. I've never had that issue
on a hiking trail, have you.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
No, I would freak out that. I mean, that's not
something you expect to happen.

Speaker 6 (31:57):
So having a medical emergence.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Yeah, or seriously, one of my buddies playing a prank
on me?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Did they put something in my I should do I
should do that to you. Actually, that's crazy. Get some
dawn Dish soap on there be while you're not paying attention,
so for a yeah. Yeah. So with all of the
new success and continued growth, what's the biggest thing you
guys are looking forward to this year and going forward

(32:26):
with your show, your new show, your live shows, anything
you can reveal that's coming up.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
I was I'm like, I don't think we can say.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
You can't say that, all right? Is there any type
of teaser, like when people should be paying attention and waiting.

Speaker 6 (32:47):
No, it's very early stages.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Sorry.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
So I guess in terms of things that we can.

Speaker 6 (32:57):
Speak about that we are excited for.

Speaker 5 (33:00):
Is we have a few trips coming up.

Speaker 6 (33:02):
This year which are exciting. We're doing a Colorado trip.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
And we're doing like Alma, We're not hitting Mesa Verde,
but we're doing pretty much every other national park, which
is really exciting. And then we're also doing a Hawaii's
Volcanoes National Park trip with listeners as well, which is
really something that we're looking forward to.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
That's fantastic. Besides, so in the States, what's your favorite
national park that you've been to or like the most
excited trip you're looking forward to.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Oh my god, Cassie, Oh yeah god.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
Okay, so this isn't a this isn't a National park
after dark trip.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
It's a personal trip.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
So we Cassie, especially like whenever everybody asked us our
favorite parks, we have our standard answers, but Cassie always
has a disclaimer of like for now, because I'm pretty
sure my favorite park that I will eventually go to
will be Glacier and this summer, we have the opportunity
to go to the Granite Park Chalat and stay for

(34:02):
a couple of nights. So we're going to be doing
that this summer and that's something that we're both stoked for.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
You haven't either of you have not been to Glacier yet. No. Oh,
that is my favorite park of all the national parts,
and the Chalet. The Chalet is beautiful. Hiking to the
Chalet is amazing. Just even driving along, going into the
sun Road is absolutely beautiful. If you do have the time.
They do the tours, like the open ended buses you
can go through there and they talk about the history

(34:32):
of the park. That's amazing. We did. That was the
one story that me and Mike had. Those probably the
scariest hike we were on. Yeah, we did a backcountry
for three or four days something like that. Yeah, we
hiked in the fifty Mountain campsite where you normally have
to go hiking into Canada then back out of Canada
just to get to this campground that's really far back

(34:53):
in the middle of nowhere. We forgot our passport. We
forgot our passport, so we had to take the long
way going up the wrong way. Essentially to get there,
and we ended up camping and nobody was there, which
is uncommon because all of the permits get taken up
all the time, Like we applied for the permits a
year and a half in advance, and nobody was there.
And then two rangers show up on horseback and like,

(35:15):
what the hell are you boys doing here? Twelve gage shotguns? Yeah,
they had guns, and they came to like we're like,
here's our permits, Like we're not We're supposed to be here.
And they had shut down every campsite in the five
mile radius because there was a grizzly attacking people and
they were there to put it down. So they had
us camp together with them overnight because it was too
late for us to hike out. And the one guy,

(35:36):
one of our hiking mates, like we had bear spray.
I usually in grizzly country, I keep a firearm as
like the absolute last resort. And one of our guys hikings,
was complaining about that we had a gun. For some reason.
I was like, I'm not gonna be shooting anything. It's
like if I'm being attacked and gonna die, like I'm
gonna do it. That's what the bear spray's for. But
then the ranger literally goes to us. He goes, do

(35:58):
any of you boys have a gun on you? I'm like,
I do, like you might need it. I have a
good night. Yeah, I was like, oh man, So I
didn't sleep a wink that night. He kept making fun
of our buddy who was in a hammock. He kept
calling him a bear burrito. So yeah, oh wow. Glacier.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Yeah, you're gonna love Glacier on one of my favorite
parts too.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I think we've done it twice. Yeah, we've done twice,
so backcountry is the best one, and then just even
out on the other trip. Yeah, even the day hikes
are just great. It's beautiful, the glacial lakes. You can
just see lots of waterfalls going down to him and
just everything looks very pristine. So yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, it's really cool because like we've always wanted to
go and stuff. But I was talking to someone who
is from there and he was like, oh, yeah, when
are you going, And I told him it's during the
summer months. He's like, oh, yeah, that's not gonna help
your case of wanting to move there, because I like,

(36:59):
I was like, my next move is probably gonna be
to Montana, and he's like, yeah, for sure, you're definitely
gonna Like after that visit, you ago you're moving there.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Well, Bozeman's such a cool town to hang out, and
then you're like, write access to it. There's a couple
other cities that are great there. And I went there
with my family and we hit a cow. You gotta
be careful when you're driving. We totalled our car in
the middle of the night and ended up staying overnight
in like a fire station, and it was a whole thing.
We were going up to vamp and just completely total

(37:28):
their car in the way up there. But it's so
common people die all the time hitting cows in the road.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Well that's good to know.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Yeah, they're like pitch black so at night, Oh yeah,
you just see it until you're ten feet away from it.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
The only reason we didn't have major injuries is because
the speed limits like a hundred out there. I was
still only doing about forty miles an hour. Because every
time I drove out there with Mike there's just deer
and there's animals everywhere. You just can't you have to
assume you're gonna hit an animal when you're driving out there.
It's that bad. Yeah, but it's cool.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
If I had to pick western state to live in,
Montana is on the short list.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
Okay, yeah, So you're going to be moving again soon.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
I don't know. We'll see. I mean Colorado, I've been.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
I've lived in Colorado two separate times, for several years each.
I lived in Washington State. I'm from New Hampshire. I
live in Maine right now, and I think that Montana.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
Is the natural next step. But we'll see naturally. Yeah,
but then we also have it's going to be a
shorter trip.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
But based on actually a connection we made with somebody
that we interviewed for National Park after Dark about a
year ago. Her name's Mave and she works with the
Wolf project up in Voyagers and she invited us up
for a weekend where a project that she's doing with
the Wolf program. So we are excited to be able
to do that this year as well.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
That's going to be So what was the.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Wolf program introducing them back into the area or how
does that work?

Speaker 4 (39:03):
No, it's just she was at the time that we
talked to her, she worked as I'm pretty sure she
was just a technician and like wolf depredation specialist and
went around the park and did a lot of studies
on the wolf dends and different farming operations around the
perimeter of the park and talk to them about non

(39:24):
lethal coexistence measures and things like that. And she's been
promoted to a different position where she gets to develop
some sorts of programming to help support the program as
a whole. And they're starting to talk about doing some
weekends where they invite guests and a lot of them
are supporters of the program, like contributors already, to get

(39:47):
a hands on look into what they do and what
the work is and just get an inside look, boots
on the ground type of look into their operations and
the studies they conduct on the populations there that are
already existing there.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
And yeah, it'll be really cool.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
That's awesome, that's really cool. So you guys have just
been getting really neat opportunities outside of the podcast just
as a result of success. What's been your favorite thing
that you didn't expect that the podcast kind of laid
in your lap or brought to you from your work there.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
I think that.

Speaker 5 (40:22):
My favorite part, and it might sound a little cheesy,
but I think my favorite part is actually when we
are able to do these trips and we're able to
bring a lot of like minded people together. When we
get on these trips, we watch these friendships unfold. That
has nothing to do with that, like we facilitated the trip,

(40:43):
but the friendships that are being made are just because
there's people from different sides of the country that are
meeting in these one spots and it turns out that
they all have.

Speaker 6 (40:51):
Something in common.

Speaker 5 (40:53):
And watching these friendships form and then watching them take it.
I mean, there have been so many peopeople from our
trips that have become friends on our trips, and then
we see them on social media hanging out like in
another part of the world, in another part of the country, whatever,
just going out on their own and they've become such
good friends. And I think that my favorite part about

(41:16):
National Park after Dark is the community that has come
from it and we have. I think one of the
things about podcasting is like when you go into it,
and you guys know too, is it can be nerve wracking.
You're putting yourself out there, you're putting your voice out there,
you're putting your face out there, and the internet can
be scary it can be scary and it can be
means sometimes, but with our community, everyone has been so

(41:40):
kind and everyone's been so lovely and overwhelmingly, of course
there's a couple outliers.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
And that we have no idea what you're talking about.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
Yeah, but overwhelmingly, I think that my favorite part has
been the community that's been brought together because of National
Park after dark.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
That's cool. You're like inadvertently doing matchmaking for friends, and
that's yeah, that's really cool because if they become lifelong friends,
like you're the impetus for that, that's actually really beautiful.
That's not cheesy at all. I love that, Danielle. What's
your favorite besides like the morbid death things you get
to hear about that just feed your dark soul?

Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, truly, I think that.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
I have an answer that's like also kind of cheesy,
But my follow up answer.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Is we get to learn about so.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Many amazing things, and we're just continuously evolving and growing
our minds and getting glimpses into different cultures and people
and places and things that we would have never come
across otherwise. You know, like you have your education in

(42:49):
your early years, and for most people that's it like,
that's where that ends. And we have this amazing opportunity
to make a livelihood stuff of our true interests and
things that we want to expand our perspectives on and
learn about.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
And some of it's fun.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
I want to learn about the cryptid that lives in
the swamps of North Carolina whatever, and that's like fun,
But by and large, it's like, what can we learn
about this historic event and what can we take from
that and how can we integrate it into our lives
and move forward with that? Like it's things like that

(43:29):
that are just week after week. Is not lost on
us that we get to just immerse ourselves and then
share it, share that love and passion with other people
who may have never may never have come across their desk.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
So that's just.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
Something that we're really happy to be able to do
and we're very fortunate that we get to choose, like
we're the captains of our own ship.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
And how many people can say that.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
That's really fantastic like that? And then we just had
Tara from Crime Off the Grid. She wanted to say
before you guys leave that she was the ranger that
was responsible for losing Jade the dog in Yellowstone, So
you did a story about that, and she felt so
bad after that happened.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
So now Jade, so, yes, that's okay.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
I also feel like that was an impossible situation.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Jay.

Speaker 5 (44:21):
Are you guys familiar with Jade's story?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
No, I've never heard. No, you should tell us because
Tara's coming on next in a little bit and then
I'll hear her side of the story too.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (44:33):
So I did this story like a couple of years ago,
so the details might be a little fuzzy, but essentially,
there was a couple who were newly dating, like they
were pretty early on, and they had a couple of
dogs with them in crates and they were in the
back of their car in Yellowstone. They were driving around
and they got into an accident and because of that accident,

(44:56):
one of the dogs, Jade, got loose and was terrified
and ran off into Yellowstone and the owner, the woman
was like clearly in like shamble. She was so upset.
Her boyfriend at the time, like was injured. There was
a lot of other things going on. It was a
pretty bad accident, and yeah, Jade got lost for a

(45:19):
few months in Yellowstone and they had to There was
like ex sightings about from people here and there about
maybe I think she was a Australian shepherd or a border.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
I thought she was a collie and she's like a collie.
I remember she was black and white and she had
like long hair.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
But anyway, so yeah, there was this whole saga about
finding her, and they did and she survived, This dog
from Denver survived in Yellowstone for like against the odds.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
And it was a very sweet, heartwarming story.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Although it was very stressful to read because I read
the book Finding Jade. Yeah, and as somebody who lives
for her dogs, like the emotional strife of that and
knowing everything that could go wrong for that animal there
what it.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Faced out that. Yeah, Yeah, now I might be dating myself.
Do you guys, Are you guys aware of the movie
Homeward Bound?

Speaker 3 (46:21):
Oh my god, Yeah, I love that movie.

Speaker 5 (46:24):
My first trauma when I was little.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
I think that's the first movie I cried about when
I was a kid. I haven't seen that. That's all
I think about is Homeward Bound. Whenever it's like an
animal loss trying to find its way home, and it's
just so sad. You just imagine it has a voice.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
It's just's voice too.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
That's like, you know, oh my god, a chance. It's
just like the comedic relief and Sassy is like me.
But anyway, Yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
I'm gonna have to watch that one, though, I still
need to watch The Guy who Went to the Bus
in Alaska.

Speaker 1 (46:59):
The Wild.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
That is our most requested episode, I would say, and
we keep ignoring it.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah, we finally, Yeah, we caved and did it.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, we finally covered it a few months ago. And
I just because a lot of people, Yeah, a lot
of people want to know about it, like they've written books,
there's movies. It's just like, I think people just like
the story.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Story, like it's a very yeah, gripping story for sure.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
You have people before.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
That's my wife and my son they're delivering right back.
That's my Cassie. Yeah, that's you know why there's two
camps on that story. There's the mean people who make
fun of him, like, oh, he was wilfully unprepared, and
then there's the people like I prefer myself. It's like

(47:49):
very poetic the way he lived his life. Obviously, it's
tragic and there's a lot of mistakes made, but he
just went for it, and I really admire I admire
people who do hard things because they're like soul led
them that way, And that's why I've always loved the story.
It's like, yeah, he made a bunch of mistakes. We
all make mistakes all the time. That's how we learn.

(48:09):
Unfortunately he made a really big one, but.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
That everyone learned about exactly.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
Everyone learns about your mistakes right there on this global
scale and stage.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Like his was.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, it was. I always loved that story. It's really touching.
I like, I like the way they played the movie
and played the whole thing out. I haven't read the book.
Have you read the book at all? Into the World?
Yeah no, no, so I've only seen the movie.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
I didn't read the book, So I feel like I
know the case now after doing the research on it.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yes, yeah, so probably don't need to read the book.

Speaker 6 (48:41):
But yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Well, in closing, anything else you guys want to say
about your show, anything coming up that you can talk
about direct all the listeners in a direction of your show,
your new show. We'll post links to it. Yeah, we'll post.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
When we have coming I don't even know we have
our live show that's coming up.

Speaker 5 (49:02):
Next week, which it seems like there's a few people
who are here that will be comings who are excited
to see you there. And then I guess we just
have all of the other troops.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
So many things people say like I can't tell you,
but it's happening, So I hate to be that person,
but we like legitimately can't.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
All right, let us know when we can't say it
will help promote whatever it is, not that you need it.
We'll send our five people that we sent to your
show to learn about that. And the last, the last
official question from John Woods. Do you guys play Dungeons
and Dragons or similar t t r p s's Secretly,
what are t t r p s? I have no clue.
Oh t t t r p G, which doesn't clarify

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it for me. The answer for me is no, yeah, no, I.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Okay, I know what the answer is.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
No for me, I don't Dungeons and Dragons. I do
play I have we have this game at home where
we play, like the old Mario game with like Mario
and Luigi and Yoshi, like the old one from the
nineties they played.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
On Super Nintendo. Yeah, like Mario Party. No before that,
before Mario Party.

Speaker 6 (50:23):
Like the original the og Mario where you're like.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
Where you're hitting the little question mark boxes and you
get a mushroom or the oh.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
Like regular Nintendo Original Mario. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, that's
not like Dungeons and Dragons.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, you're going in a completely different direction.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
I thought you were gonna say, I don't play Dungeons
and Dragons, but I read about dragons.

Speaker 5 (50:48):
I do read about dragons sometimes, and I don't think
this is Dungeon and Dragons either.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
But I have been LARPing.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
You you've been LARPing. I think you're very close to
Dungeons and Dragons. Then, yeah, like that's like the LARPI
and fill me in on what that.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
Means again, No, I know what it means. And we're
having a moment. What do you talk about?

Speaker 4 (51:08):
Would you like to come when you say you have been,
like you've been one time in the past, or you
are actively going.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
My brother goes LARPing and he invites me sometimes, which
I will say though, I thought it was like my
brother invited me and I was so excited.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
I was like a time to bond and it's gonna
be great.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
And it's live role playing for whoa, okay, yeah, it's
have you ever seen what's the movie with?

Speaker 1 (51:34):
And I can't even think of it. They get court
ordered to like watch kids and they have to go,
oh yeah, yep, I forget that model Yeah, role models.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Yes, okay, sorry.

Speaker 6 (51:44):
Similar to that, very similar to that.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
All right, I'm glad I could help you, guys reveal
something new about your friendship that you didn't know previously.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
I really didn't know. Yeah, it was experience.

Speaker 6 (51:58):
It's experience.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
And so I went to my I went and hung
out with my brother and his friends who they have.
They've made weapons and there are serious weapons, like there
are metal poles and stuff. They cover them in foam
so they don't hurt you, but they're serious weapons. And
I went there thinking I was going to be like
this bonding moment with my brother. And I even brought
one of my really close friends that I went to

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school with, and I was like, Okay, at least she'll
be on my side.

Speaker 6 (52:25):
We were the only girls.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
Everyone ganged up on me and chased me and did
me with swords.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
And it was the easy target.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
Apparently I looked like an easy target. But yeah, it
was ten.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Times recommend awesome I'm glad we could have had this
major reveal on the way out. So you guys are
gonna have to go talk about this now because Danielle,
you seemed very upset that you didn't know this ahead
of time.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
Yeah, like or someone.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
I talked to Cassie more than I talked to him
anybody on this planet, and that somehow slipped.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Through the cracks.

Speaker 8 (53:00):
So awesome, she's a secret keeper. I have a question
for you guys before we go. We have sure less,
So what's the farewell thing about? What are you guys
doing so this.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Studio, unfortunately, because it's awesome because we're in the city,
they're renovating this whole building, so we're moving somewhere else
and we don't even know where.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
We don't have a new studio yet, so it's kind
of yeah, we it's going to figure it out. We've
had such a great time, and it's really the people
outside of the window. Especially in the summer. We have
a big music festival downtown in June and July called Summerfest,
and people just get really drunk and wider around the
city and people are so funny.

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Oh, we get twerkers. People come and twerk in the
middle so you can watch them like the old and
we have a camera that will switch on that just
shows the windows when people are doing ridiculous stuff, but
things they say and the stuff they do in the
windows is just absolutely gold. It's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
So, yeah, we're not the show's not ending, but our
location we're in right now is going away, and we
at the moment don't know where we're going.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, so location is.

Speaker 9 (53:58):
Yeah, yeah, early our locations and so yeah, so we
want to brand and we've talked about doing a big
live stream like this one is probably gonna go to
midnight our time, and we've talked about it for two
or three years and we've never done it because it
is a kind of paying the ass to sit and
talk for six hours.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
But we're doing it now because our studio is going away,
so for the temporary hopefully.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Okay, Well that's on your next step wherever it is,
and it'll nice place. It'll be meant for you whenever
it comes.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Well, yeah, you guys have fun on your trips. Thanks
for making the time and joining and yeah, good luck
on your live show at Joshua Tree. That sounds great.
Thank you. Some day we'll have to. We'll have to
go to one of.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Those yes, where we can connect in another way. Just
let us know are up to and absolutely.

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Yes. All right, well you guys.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Later joining all right, see you guys.

Speaker 6 (54:56):
Thanks us.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Oh well, I think we're going to close it out.
We've done four and a half hours. I'm exhausted, no,
but thank you all for hanging in here with us
through thick and thin. Yeah, and well, I.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Think what we're gonna do is edit this down and
release like I'm not going to release on four and
a half hours onto the podcast like audio. Yeah, I
might break it down to a couple episodes, like the
National Park interview.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Oh that's a good idea, I have an interview. Yeah, yeah,
I like that.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
That's a good idea.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
There's a lot of filler stuff.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
There's a lot of filler, but.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
No, some of you who hung on through to the end,
thank you very much. This is a lot of fun.
I actually enjoyed it. But I am exhausted. Me too.
We've been dying for four and a half hours. But anyway,
thank you all for tuning into our show and listening
to locations unknown. Please tell your friends and family they're
not all four and a half hours long, but just
remember when taking a walk in the woods, always remember

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to leave no trace. Thanks and we will see you
all next time.