April 12, 2024 • 44 mins
After an accident left Brandy Gillmore gravely disabled, she went from working in network engineering and operations to becoming the #1 rapid results healing expert. In this episode Brandy shares her relentless quest to discover how to completely heal herself and how she uses what she learned to help others heal.
In this episode, Brandy discusses:
- How living with untreatable chronic pain led her to explore alternatives
- The power of our minds
- Biophotons and healing
- What she discovered on her journey to healing
- The influence of emotions and outlook
- Looking for patterns of thoughts and feelings
- What prevents someone from healing
Brandy’s website: https://brandygillmore.com/
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Wendy (00:03):
You're listening to Lucid Cafe. I'm your host, Wendy
Halley. Hello and thanks forjoining me for another episode
(00:33):
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let you know that I'm in theprocess of creating an online
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I'm taking everything I'velearned over the years as a
shamanic practitioner andworkshop facilitator, which has
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(01:16):
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into the transpersonal realms.Holy shit, such rich territory
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And you are. I mean, you can'tmerge with the essence of a tree
and be the same afterwards.
(01:36):
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can subscribe to the podcastwhere I'll also be giving
updates.
Okay. So let's get to today'sepisode. My guest, Brandy
Gilmore, went from working innetwork engineering and
operations to being disabled foryears. And then she became the
number one rapid results healingexpert. In this episode, Brandy
(02:21):
shares how she discovered how toheal herself and how she uses
what she learned to help othersheal.
In her new book, Master YourMind and Energy to Heal Your
Body, Brandi reveals the key tounlocking these results to help
you gain clarity andunderstanding of self healing in
a way that's mind expanding.Please enjoy my conversation
(02:42):
with Brandy Gilmore. Brandy,thank you so much for joining
me.
Brandy (02:51):
Wendy, thank you so much for inviting me to join you.
It's beautiful to connect withyou.
Wendy (02:57):
Well, I am eager to talk to you about your book. It's
called Master Your Mind andEnergy to Heal Your Body. You
can be your own cure is thesubtitle. I can get back in
that. Yes.
So you have quite a story. Iwould love to start probably
where everybody wants you tostart in these conversations by
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hearing a bit about whathappened to you that led you to
write this
Brandy (03:26):
book. It is literally the last thing that I ever
thought that I would be doingwas writing a book on mind body
healing, ever. Mind body energy,any of that. So I used to do
network engineering andoperations, and, basically, I
had an accident. And,technically, I had 2.
I had a car accident, and then Ihad a fall. And I fell just
wrong, just right, however youwanna say it. But, basically, I
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went from living a full life tobeing wheelchair, walker, cane.
You know, on a good day, I couldget out with my wheelchair,
walker, cane, and on a bad day,I didn't get out of bed. And I
was just on morphine and extremepain for many, many years.
And my doctor said that therewas nothing they could do to for
me to heal, and I was literallystarted trying diet and
(04:10):
supplements and everything thatI could find. And there was an
interesting turn of events.Every time I went to any type of
specialist, I would say, well, Ijust you have to have some
there's something. Like, youhave to like, I wouldn't wanna
leave the office until theycould give me some type of
referral. Because it was like Icouldn't lose hope of my future.
You know? And so the hospital,one of the top research
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hospitals that I've been goingto, got me into a study. And I
thought, oh my gosh. This isgonna be amazing. I I'm gonna
get my life back because that'swhat you hope for.
You hope somebody's gonna inventsomething new. And so they got
me into this study, and Iliterally remember counting down
the days to this study thinking,oh my gosh. Like, I felt like a
kid before Christmas. Like, I'mgonna get my life back. And long
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story short, on the day of thestudy comes, my friend wheels me
and takes me into the hospital,wheels me in my wheelchair.
They get me all prepped in thehospital for the procedure. And
the doctor, he comes in and hesays, you know, I'm sorry, but
you can't be a part of thisstudy. We we don't expect you to
get better. And I just felt likethere was this tennis ball in my
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throat. Like, I swallowed it.
Like, I just was choking backthe tears, just trying to be
okay. And the next memory Ihave, I'm laying in my same bed
at home, and I'm in all of thispain, and and I don't even wanna
live. I'm just like, what's thepoint after I left? It's just
like, I'm I'm not gonna getbetter. I can't live like this.
And then I had this voice orthought come into my mind. It
was like, well, Brandy, but whatabout the placebo? In that
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moment, I thought, you know,it's a known fact that a certain
percentage of people can getbetter. And I had already been
trying positive thinking,meditation, and theta state. All
of these things weren't working,but I it led me to really
explore why does the mind work,what is what's happening, and
how does it work, and how can Iget real results?
And it just led me on thisincredible journey that now has
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led me to write this book.
Wendy (06:05):
Okay. So it started with the rejection from the study.
Yeah. You're already kind ofgoing down that road exploring
what would help me feel better.
Brandy (06:14):
Yeah. The the rejection from the study was more so it
may be ground the information.Because before I had been doing
the meditation and visualizingand theta state, like, trying it
and it made me say, okay. And itand I was all over the place. It
wasn't like anything was linear.
I was like, I'll try this and a10 of these and 5 of these.
Whatever it was, I didn't care.
Wendy (06:35):
Yeah.
Brandy (06:36):
But what I would say that did is it made me say,
okay. Well, there's the placebo.And so what happened is then I
started saying, okay. Well, I'mgonna convince myself I'm
already healed, because Ithought that the placebo worked
based on belief. However, whenit wasn't working and wasn't
working, and I was I was reallygood at convincing myself, so
much so I had, like, multiplerealities.
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I was pushing myself, and itwasn't working. And then I
finally as I was researching,came across the awareness that
there's something called an openlabel placebo where both the
doctor and the patient both knowit's fake, and it still works.
And I was like, oh, wait asecond.
Wendy (07:12):
Does that work? Yeah.
Brandy (07:14):
Yeah. Like, if and so if they both know that it's fake,
then it's not all about belief.And that's what you know, I so
so then it led me on thisjourney where I started looking
at another thing that was justeye opening was multiple
personality disorder. Theawareness that people can have
different illnesses when they'rein different personalities. They
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could have back pain andallergies in one personality and
asthma and heart palpitations orheadaches or whatever it is in
Crazy.
Wendy (07:42):
Right? Crazy. One personality is left handed. The
other is right handed.
Brandy (07:47):
Yeah. And, different body temperature, blood
pressure, all of these things.Yeah. So and what was also
fascinating was a few things,was medically documented
illnesses were not present inany other personality. And
there's even a a woman who'sfascinating was that it was
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always in the same personality.
So meaning that if one person,she maybe called herself Jane,
but let's say she had analternate personality that
called herself Sue. Maybe Suealways has back pain, but Jane
always has headaches and adifferent personality, and it
could always have somethingelse. And it was consistent with
the same personality, and so itreally helped me to start
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looking at the awareness that itmust be in our mindset
somewhere. And, of course, atthe same time, I started
researching energy and how thatwas all connected and and
biochemistry. And so it was justthis entire dev just delving
into research saying, how doesthis work?
Wendy (08:54):
It's quite mysterious. I've always been interested to
figure out why some people healreally well and thoroughly and
other people don't. But thecommon denominator is that they
both want to heal.
Brandy (09:07):
Yeah. And, I mean, this is the thing. Obviously, like, I
researched for about 6 years. Sofor me to do that day in and day
out and research, I actuallyfound that it was, like, it was
not only like an addiction, itwas a form of survival. I found
on the days that I didn'tresearch if I didn't research
for a couple days in a row, myworld was black.
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I was not in a good state atall. I was depressed and
everything. So I was just it wasa survival. And so I wanted to
get better, obviously, theentire time, but it was still
about also understanding howdoes it work. And that's
basically one of the things thatwas key is our minds do so much
more than people realize.
Our minds direct our energy, anda lot of people think spiritual
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like, the energy is just aspiritual notion. But,
technically, on the medicalside, there was a medical
scientist who discoveredbiophotons or energy, light
energy from the body back in the19 twenties and was nom
nominated for the Nobel Prize 11times. And so it's interesting
that in our world a 100 yearslater, here we are even with a
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lot of people thinking thatenergy is just a woo woo thing
or a spiritual notion when it'sI mean, there there's even
research on light energy fromthe body that's in a database
that's like, a collaborativedatabase that's run by Harvard
and the Smithsonian. So, I mean,it's very much real, but it's
funny how many people don'trealize that it's real.
Wendy (10:37):
Let's talk about the biophoton and how that relates
to the body and healing.
Brandy (10:43):
So many ways. Okay. So if we said exactly what you just
mentioned, you said, how does itrelate to the body and healing?
So that was your specificquestion. And it's an exciting
question.
I love this question. So thereare so many ways. So a a few
things. 1st, research has shownthat different illnesses can
emit different types offrequencies. So for example,
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somebody who has type 2diabetes, they'll have higher
biophoton emissions from thenavel area, but less from the
forehead compared to somebodywho is nondiabetic.
And and kind of to go biggerpicture for a moment just to
make sure that everybody has aan idea of biophotons. An easy
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way to think about it is this,is that if you picture if you
think about a particle of light,so a light bulb emits particles
of light or the sun emitsparticles of light and they're
called photons. And now the bodyhas bio photons and basically
they're called bio photonsbecause it's from a biological
organism. Now, initially, Imentioned that they were
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discovered in the 19 twenties.So Alexander Gershwich is the
one who discovered them, and heinitially called it mitogenetic
radiation.
But then later, it was renamedto biophotons. And so,
basically, a researcher namedPopp, actually renamed them to
biophotons. But what'sfascinating about biophotons is
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is, 1, as I just mentioned,different illnesses have
different frequencies. Evencancerous cells have different
frequencies. Another thingthat's really interesting is
that research suggests that thislight energy can actually
communicate things likehomeostasis throughout the body
and information throughout thebody.
Now some people might think,how's light energy gonna
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communicate informationthroughout the body? If we look
at Wi Fi, I mean, Interneteverywhere, fiber optics. So
fiber optics is exactly that. 5is a glass tube with light
that's transmitting cable,Internet, emails, text messages
all over the world. So light isactually really good at carrying
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information.
And so and so there's there's somany ways. I mean, I I could go
into another way. AlexanderGershwich, when he first
discovered light energy, one ofthe things that he discovered
about it is it had the abilityto influence cellular
proliferation. And what cellproliferation is is, basically,
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a simple way to think about itis if you picture dish soap. If
you pour water on dish soap, itbubbles up.
And so it grows and divides,grows and divides. And,
basically, our cells, when we'reworking on wound healing, they
grow and divide, grow anddivide, grow and divide. Or
there's also abnormal cellproliferation, which is
something like tumor or canceror whatnot or even but a lot of
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illnesses are connected toabnormal proliferation such as
rheumatoid arthritis or allkinds of things. So but,
basically, in his studies, hefound that this light energy
could actually influencecellular proliferation, and that
was profound. So there's just somany different things that are
profound about it.
And further, research has shownthat our minds and our thoughts
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and our emotions can actuallyinfluence the biophoton
emissions that are coming fromour body.
Wendy (14:07):
I was wondering if in your research, if you ever came
across and I don't rememberreading this in your book. And
maybe I did and I I forgot andI'll blame it on my
postmenopausal brain. But whenyou're looking at the frequency
of sound and that our systems,when they're out of harmony,
they actually have I mean, it'slike sound related. And so,
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like, sound healing is all aboutbringing disharmony back into
harmony. Did you ever comeacross anything along those
lines?
Brandy (14:40):
A lot of the sound stuff because I I as far as music and
whatnot, one of the things thatI love about music is is, you
know, if you bring in intensepositivity with music, it can,
of course, increase dopamine andand biochemical, you know, and
emotional, reaction to it.
A strong emotional reaction toit, which is which is beautiful.
I would say that this type ofenergy, this the working with
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biophotons in this way, it is abit different in that that it
was directly linked to emotions.But I see that with a with a big
however, and this is the reasonwhy, is because research has
shown that there's a directcorrelation between a person's
thoughts and emotions and theirbiophoton emissions. And so if
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somebody is, of course,listening to music and enjoying
it, then presumably, that woulddefinitely, obviously, create a
difference in biophotonemissions.
Now there's other interestingthings such as there was a
research study where researchersasked participants to visualize
white light. And as they did,they were able to see increased
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biophoton emissions out of theright side of their heads, but
not out of the left side. And sowhat's interesting is is that it
also shows that energy andbiophoton emissions can increase
in certain parts of the body andnot others as well. And so I
would say it really depends onwhat's going on in a person's
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mind. You know, people withanger, they'll have increased
biophoton emissions.
And so sometimes you'll hearpeople say, well, just increase
your energy, increase yourenergy. Well, that's not the
case. That's that's not theanswer because cancer cells have
increased biophoton emission. Soit's not it's not just about
increasing it. It's aboutcreating that shift.
But, of course, going back toyour, your comment about music
Wendy (16:33):
Just sound in general, tones, and and that kind of
thing.
Brandy (16:37):
Yeah. I mean, if you think about it for a moment,
knowing that there's a directcorrelation, the research has
shown there's a directcorrelation between EKG and
biophoton emissions, thendefinitely, it would really
depend on how a person's feelingand taking in that music, but
absolutely.
Wendy (16:55):
It's all frequency. Whether it's light frequency or
sound frequency, it's operatingon this level that is sub
perceptual.
Brandy (17:04):
As you can probably tell from my book, I love to geek out
on the research stuff. So inother words, basically, what I
kind of did is I took all of thepieces. Like, what I try to do
is everything that I ever sayand do, I like to do research on
it and show it. So that'sactually kind of what led to the
book is basically after I healedmyself, I thought people are
gonna think I'm nuts to go downwheelchair, walker, cane. I
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mean, I was a mess.
My legs were about the same sizeas my arms. And I thought going
from network engineering andoperations to I I mean, I was
like, right now, I'm about 125.You know, I'm 5859, 125, and I
was £93. I was so I had lost,like, £30 something. I was I was
a mess, and I was weak.
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And, I mean, just, I was a mess.And so I thought people are
gonna think I'm nuts that Isomehow healed with my mind. And
and I was like, okay. Well, myinitial thought was I'm just
gonna show my doctors how I didthis. They're gonna wanna share
it with everybody.
And I was like, but I just haveto show them how it works. And
so it sent me on this journey tosay, okay. I just have to show
other people. So I would thenstart showing other people and
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then taking people and showingthem how to release pain with
their own mind. And they werelike, oh my gosh.
My pain is gone. And peoplestarted asking me to speak, and
so I started speaking on stages.Then I would take people from
the audience that who wereexperiencing pain, and I would
show them how to shift out ofpain. And then there was one
time when I was getting offstage and I thought sometime at
some point, somebody's gonnasay, that can't be real. That's
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gotta be a plant, a fake personfaking that they have neck pain
or back pain or whatever.
And, you know, that would havebeen me because I was world's
biggest skeptic.
Wendy (18:42):
Right. Right.
Brandy (18:43):
That would have been me. So so I thought, well, I have to
show this under medicalequipment so people can see it.
And then that drove me to thenshow it under thermal medical
equipment so you can actuallysee the pain where the pain is
there, and you can see it on thescan, and then it's gone just
from somebody using their mind.And so it's just been this
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unplanned this passion to thenafter I healed myself that I
just I hate seeing other peoplewho are sick and stuck and in
pain. And it's like, but I justwanna show everybody, hey.
We can do this. We're allamazing. It's not just me.
Wendy (19:16):
It doesn't have to be this way. That was the thing
that really struck me about yourbook is the first third of it
reads like a a detective novelin a way that you're we have
this bird's eye view of everystep you took in your journey to
figure out what the hell isgoing on and how do I heal
myself and trying to understandhow this all works. And then the
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rest of your book is dedicatedto sharing what you learned and
how you put it together in thesetechniques. I think it would be
cool if you wouldn't mindgiving, like, an overview of the
techniques or maybe a taste, asample, like what you would do
when you bring somebody on stageto help them, reduce their pain
or eliminate their pain? Like,what is it that you learned and
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how do you describe it to folks?
Brandy (20:05):
Alright. So I would say a a few things, and I'm just
gonna, like, pour into you for amoment. So here we go. So I
would say one thing I learnedwas this, is that different
combinations of emotions affectthe body differently, and this
was foundational. A simple wayto think about it is this, is
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that if somebody's embarrassed,their face can turn red, or if
they have a panic attack, that'sa different emotion, or sexual
thought, that can affect thebody in a completely different
way.
Now, of course, as I'm goingthrough my injury, we've all
heard of stress and emotionsbefore, and I thought I need a
lot more than emotions to helpme out of this situation. But
then I started looking at a fewthings. Number 1, that one study
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after another after anotherafter another has shown that
optimism after surgery candramatically influence healing
rates. That people have muchbetter success rates, cellular
proliferation is improved, andif they're in fear or anger or
upset, that their healing ismuch slower. They can have a lot
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higher complications,rehospitalization, all of these
things.
And I thought, well, that'safter surgery. So there's gotta
be at least something to theseemotions. And then and then, of
course, looking at it andthinking about the widowhood
effect, where a senior can losea spouse and have a much higher
rate of death. And I thought,okay. Well, I can also see that
emotions can actually impact usto the point of death, and
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there's many different waysthat's recorded.
And so was that. It was reallyunderstanding that in so many
ways, our emotions, whether youwanna look at the brain body
connection and and thehomunculus map, but
understanding the brain bodyconnection or energy or
biochemistry or whatnot, we cansee there's so many ways. And so
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then because I continue toanalyze MPD, you know, or DID,
and and what I mean by that ismultiple personality disorder or
it's also known as dissociativeidentity disorder, and the
awareness that differentpersonalities could have
different ailments, and, also,people who are happy could have
illness also. And what I startedto realize was it was a certain
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combination of emotions. And theeasiest way to think about it is
like this, is that if somebodywants to make cake and they have
flour, well, they can't makecake.
But if they mix it with eggs andbutter and other ingredients or
vegan eggs and butter and otheringredients, they can, of
course, make cake. Now, ofcourse, illness is a lot
different than cake, but mypoint is Yes. Much different.
Believe me. I have it.
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More than cake.
Wendy (22:39):
If only if only it was as easy as making a cake!
Brandy (22:45):
And so it was just it realizing that that just like
food, different ingredientscreate different things. So
somebody can have PTSD, and theymay not have a health issue, but
it depends on the combination ofemotions. So that was one thing.
So when I work with people undermedical equipment or even to get
results, that's part of theprocess is, okay, identifying
what specific emotion and whatspecific pattern and then
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transforming that. So that is akey thing.
And so even when I work withpeople in their medical
equipment, that's what I'll dois I'll identify, okay, what are
the specific ingredients? Whatdo I need to help them to then
shift? And so that was aprofound awareness. Now creating
that change was one thing.Another thing was a lot of times
people are trying to work on onespecific trauma, but we have
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patterned ways of thinking andfeeling that persist.
And so a lot of times, ifsomebody's experienced a trauma,
it's part of a bigger pattern.That's what I experienced is I
had a trauma, and it was part ofa patterned way of thinking and
feeling. So in other words, forexample, somebody may have a
pattern of feeling abandoned,and yet they can have traumatic
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abandonment, so to speak,multiple times throughout their
life and also have a pattern ofit in little ways that show up
all of the time. And so my pointis, is it to get results, it
wasn't just about solving onetrauma. It was about
understanding that there's apatterned way of thinking and
feeling and then shifting that.
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And so that was really profound.I could go on and on, but that
was a key.
Wendy (24:19):
Yeah. Well, that's a huge one. Right? I mean, I think what
you're insinuating is the powerof the unconscious mind and how
these patterns get embeddedbecause of conditioning and or
trauma and a variety of otherways that we don't even realize
how much they're influencing us.And you're suggesting that now
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correct me if I'm wrong here.
You're suggesting that thesepatterns can influence how well
you heal or don't heal.
Brandy (24:49):
Absolutely. And even if we look at the bigger picture,
there's been one research studyafter another that shows even
optimism can help protect fromdifferent types of illnesses,
and even people who areoptimistic can live about 15%
longer than others. And so wecan see that that there that our
emotions affect our body and ourlongevity and and all of that.
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Now what I started looking atwas even if we look at Freud's
work or we look at things likerepetition compulsion or
reenactments or attractiontheory or law of attraction,
whatever you wanna call it, wehave pattern ways of thinking
and feeling and we attract onthat similar note. So let's say
that somebody has a pattern ofself criticism where another
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person might have a pattern offeeling guilty or another person
may have a pattern of abuse.
And, you know, kind of a acommon example that I'll give is
is, unfortunately, we've allheard before that a woman can
have an abusive father and thenleave him and find the abusive
boyfriend, boss, spouse,etcetera, etcetera. Now she's
not trying to do that onpurpose. It's not like she
leaves her father and says, Ihope to have an abusive man or
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husband. You know? But thatcontinues.
And so our subconscious mindplays out in our life more than
we realize, and that's whatreenactments or repetition
compulsion is all about, is theawareness that our minds have a
tendency to go back to the sametrauma, the same emotional
experience over and over andover again. And so what I
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started looking at was exactlythat. I was saying, okay. Well,
there's embarrassment effects.The we know that that, somebody
their face can turn red or panicattack or sexual thought.
And I thought, well, we can seethese emotions affect the body
or somebody's nervous orsomebody can have so much fear
that they get scared their heartskips a beat. That's their
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heart. And that well, okay. Ifwe know these emotions affect
the body, well, what are theother emotions doing that we
don't know? And and if we canabout
Wendy (26:51):
You're talking about the obvious ones versus the not
obvious ones. Right?
Brandy (26:54):
Well said. Yeah. Okay. Well said. Absolutely.
And so realizing that theseemotions are running in our
subconscious mind. And so it wasit was about that. It was about
understanding, okay. Well, whatis the patterned way of thinking
and feeling? What are thespecific emotions that are
affecting me and and how do Icreate a real shift and change
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them?
Wendy (27:16):
And that's probably the most challenging aspect, right,
is how to become aware of shitthat you're not aware of.
Brandy (27:23):
How to become aware of shit you're not that's a good
way to say it. I like that. It'swell said.
Wendy (27:28):
But that's why I love the word lucid so much. Lucid is
probably my favorite word.
Brandy (27:34):
I love that.
Wendy (27:35):
Because it's about awareness, like, how to be more
aware and awake while you'reliving your life. Not just lucid
while you're dreaming, but lucidwhile you're out and about. So
yeah. How did you figure out howto become aware of shit that
you're not aware of?
Brandy (27:53):
Basically, multiple ways. I would say one is that if
we look at the analogy ofsomebody who's really, really,
really upset and they're really,really upset and you try to
reason with them, how does it gonot so well? But if they calm
down, they can see things in adifferent way. They have a
greater sense of self awareness.They can have a greater sense of
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seeing the situation.
And so I kind of took that to amuch deeper level and said,
okay. Well, the more I can calmmy mind and really calm my mind
and then also start tuning inand noticing what I'm really
feeling, the more I can becomeaware. And so there were again,
there there were multiple thingsthat I did, but that was one.
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It's it's starting to to do thatand to understand also that the
more that I could calm emotions,the more I could see with more
clarity. Now a lot of times whenpeople think about calming
emotions, they'll think aboutmeditation.
But one of the things that Iactually needed to do was I
needed to stop meditatingbecause I had been meditating so
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much, and I had trained my brainto start ignoring what was in my
subconscious mind. Yeah.
Wendy (29:08):
Okay.
Brandy (29:09):
Yeah. So where I thought I was doing it wrong. Thought
comes into your mind, you ignoreit. A thought comes into your
mind, you ignore it. And and notonly that, but I was just
training myself to just be okaywith whatever thought.
And then I started to realize,wait a second. If there's
thoughts coming into my mind,they're coming from one place.
Wendy (29:28):
So I should pay attention, and maybe they have a
story to tell me?
Brandy (29:32):
Yeah. So instead of ignoring them, I started
understanding them and thinkingin a different way.
Wendy (29:39):
That's a different kind of meditation. Right? I mean,
it's still sort of a meditation.It's an inward focus instead of
that kind of more like, oh,watching the thoughts float by
and ignoring them or whatever,however you did it. It's more
like trying to hone in on themand discover what they have to
say.
Brandy (30:00):
Yeah. Like that. And how I did that no. No. No.
It it goes back to the multiplethings. I was so out of touch
with my emotions. I think when Iworked in technology, I didn't
even know I had emotions. Ithought
Wendy (30:13):
Oh, okay. So you were starting kinda from square 1.
Brandy (30:17):
Oh, yes. Maybe even square 0. I felt like if if you
do not have any emotion in amoment, it did not exist. Okay.
Like, the idea and remember, Imean, I was injured in 03.
So I have now been healed nowfor over well over 13 years now.
So so it's 20 years ago, and Ididn't know what the
subconscious mind was. I mean, Iwas literally I was new to all
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of it. And one epiphany for mewas I thought, well, intense
emotions had to be the key. Ifit's gonna be emotions and I was
like, but I'm not feeling anyemotions.
Wendy (30:49):
Okay.
Brandy (30:50):
And then I started to realize, oh, well, subtle
emotions. If I had a subtleemotion 3 weeks ago, and then
again I noticed it 2 weeks ago,and then again couple minutes
ago, it could only mean onething. It's buried in my
subconscious mind, and it'ssomehow a programmed way of
thinking and feeling. So thatwas an epiphany. And instead of
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saying that subtle emotionsdon't matter, I began to realize
they matter more.
Wendy (31:19):
I could see how profound that must have been then if you
felt like you really didn't havea relationship with your
emotionality and then you startinvestigating your emotions,
that must have been like, holycrap, this big wealth of
information. And then it's like,oh, I can start working with
this. I can start understandingmyself in ways that I haven't
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before?
Brandy (31:42):
Yes. And, I mean, when I say that I didn't realize I had
emotions, I mean, obviously--
Wendy (31:49):
Or you didn't have a relationship with them.
Brandy (31:52):
yeah. Yeah. I I didn't I mean, I was even at the time, my
doctors had said, woah, becauseI I was depressed. But they said
something like I was depressed.I'm like, I'm not depressed.
I have a problem. Like, if Ididn't have this problem, I
wouldn't be depressed.
Wendy (32:06):
Very logical.
Brandy (32:08):
It's very logical. I'm not it's not depression. And and
at the time, you know, maybe 20years ago, there might have been
a little stigma about that. So Iwas like I was I was like, I'm
not depressed. I have a problemif the problem would go away.
So I don't have a depressionproblem. I have an injury
problem.
Wendy (32:22):
It's in response to a really shitty circumstance. So,
of course, I'm experiencingsadness or depression or
whatever.
Brandy (32:30):
And fear
Wendy (32:32):
All of it.
Brandy (32:32):
My whole world felt like it, yeah, was was crashing down.
And and, yeah.
Wendy (32:37):
Must have been horrible.
Brandy (32:38):
You know, because I've deleted all of those, I my
biggest emotion is that Iwouldn't wanna go through it
again, and I wouldn't I wouldn'ttake it back if I could because
the way it changed my life. It
Wendy (32:49):
Absolutely. Yeah.
Brandy (32:51):
My life changed so much. It's incredible. And that's why
even in the book, I call it thegift and healing because I see
people like, I've worked withpeople who have gone from even
just releasing physical pain,but even I mean, worked with
other people who were bedridden,who have had tumors, who have
had autoimmune conditions, allkinds of things. And when it's
like when you really understandwhat's going in the subconscious
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mind and you make a change, itradically changes your life. And
so it's there's a gift in it,and that's what I love.
Wendy (33:23):
I don't know if this is sort of a a lame question or
not, but Never a lame question.We'll wait to hear it. Bring it.
So so through all of yourresearch and your experience and
your successes, not just withyourself, but with others, what
would you say really gets in theway of our body's ability to
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heal itself?
Brandy (33:48):
What gets in the way? I would say multiple things. I
would say if I were gonna gothrough a a list and name them
off, I would say some people,they have wounding, and they
don't wanna let it go. They havea resentment or an anger or an
upset, misconceptions aboutemotions. I can't tell you how
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often I've seen people who havebeen on the healing journey for
20 years, 30 years, who haven'thealed themselves, and they
think they have resolved anemotion.
It's kinda like this. Like, onehugely common misconception is
this, is that somebody mighthave hurt from the past, and
then they say, well, I forgavethe person, and they expect it
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to be gone. And it's that's likelooking in your refrigerator and
seeing food from 10 years agoand saying, but I forgave it.
And that doesn't make it goaway.
Wendy (34:44):
So I I mean, I'm I'm a talk therapist, but I think talk
therapy is limited because ithelps us to understand and
develop beautiful insights asto, oh, that's why I feel the
way I feel, or that's why Ibehave or react the way I do.
But it doesn't necessarily getrid of the reason why that's
happening, right, and how it'sliving in your body and having
(35:06):
an influence. You can be awareof it and you can say, yeah.
Intellectually, I I forgive thisperson. But maybe deeper down
inside, it's not quite reachingthat true like, what does
forgiveness really, really mean?
I mean, it's a tough question, Ithink. That's just using your
example, but I think there'sprobably lots of examples like
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that.
Brandy (35:27):
I think also when you asked me, that must have been
really hard. And I said, I letall those feelings go. This is
what remains for me, is exactlythat example. Like, it's kind of
like when you just really don'thave the emotions anymore at all
and they're actually gone, it'sthat feeling. And so I would say
(35:47):
the emotion is just not there,and one key piece of that can
also be changing yourperception.
You know? I mean, no matter howhard I try, I can't really find
the feeling that Santa Claus isreal. And I can't. I it's not
there. I don't have it.
And so what I would say issometimes a radical shift in
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perception can also be. But alot of times, what can happen is
people wanna validate theiremotions. They want them to feel
understood. They want them tofeel validated.
Wendy (36:17):
Very true. Yeah.
Brandy (36:19):
I would say that blocks people. I would say another
thing that blocks people areunderlying patterns of guilt or
shame that they have that it's apattern, and it keeps them from
making a shift. I would saythat's in there's there's so
many. But, yeah, I mean, that'swhat I always tell people
because they'll see me helpsomebody shift out of pain very
quickly, and it looks likemagic. And I say, but but it
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takes real change.
So I have helped people shiftunder medical equipment where
you can see it shift out ofpain, and they release it, and
it stays. And years years yearslater, it's gone. It hasn't come
back because they embrace thatchange. But if somebody goes
back into the negative, like,right afterwards, if they say,
okay. Well, you know, let's saythey have a lot of hurt from
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their husband, and so we shiftedout of the hurt, but then they
go home and they have anargument with him, then it could
come back.
And it's something that theyreally need to make an
actionable step to integrate intheir lives. And then so it's
it's real change. You can'ttrick your mind.
Wendy (37:20):
No. You can't. You can certainly try. Uh-huh. But
there's also a phenomenon wherepeople identify with their
wounding.
Like, it becomes a part of theiridentity. And so to let go of
that is, well, who am I if I'mnot this wounded, angry, sad,
depressed person?
Brandy (37:42):
Absolutely. Yeah. And that's when I mentioned there
was multiple ingredients, andsome ingredients make cake, some
make different recipe, That'sexactly what happens is there's
a combination and part of thatcombination can be the self
image where people have startedto identify with the injury.
Wendy (38:00):
So, yeah, in a lot of cases too, you're talking about
people's relationship withpower. So when you have that
perspective, you are powerlessto your illness, to your
wounding, and it's hard to healwhen you're in a place of
powerlessness. And what you'retrying to do, it seems like, is
to remind people how powerfulthey are.
Brandy (38:21):
That's ultimately my goal is this, is that the other
day, I worked with this woman,beautiful, beautiful being, had
foot pain for many, many, manyyears and helped her and been
everywhere and done all thesethings, and it helped her just
shift out of it. And she waslike, I'm flabbergant. Like, I
don't even know what to say. I'mI'm astounded, like, that we can
actually just do this. It it itwould be like if somebody's
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walking around with anxietyattacks anxiety attacks, and
they didn't know it wasconnected to an emotion.
And they're like, I don't know.My body just keeps doing this.
And they had no idea that therewas emotional component. They're
like, I don't know. Every sooften, like, I just can't
breathe, and I don't know why.
And let's let's run some testson it. Let's figure it out.
Let's do this. Let's do that.And it's like, well, if you
resolve the emotions, you you'llstop going into those places
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where you can't.
Like so we know that there's anemotional component there. And
then so if somebody has footpain or knee pain or an illness
or a thigh or all these things,there is an emotional component
that we're not even addressing.And so the way I kinda look at
it is also people used tobelieve that it was impossible
for human beings to run a a milein under 4 minutes, and then
there's the 4 minute mile whereRoger Bannister did that. And
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then after that, people realizedthat we could do that, and more
and more people did that andbroke that record. And what I
see all the time is people startto realize, oh, we can release
pain.
We can heal our bodies. We cando this. And then I'll have
people who message in and say,oh my gosh. You know, Brandy, I
learned how to do it. Like, Ijust released my pain and my
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headache went away or this,that, the other, and, oh my
gosh.
I did it. And that, a 100%, thatto me is if everybody knows that
we can do these things, that'swhat's incredible.
Wendy (39:59):
And that's my second favorite word is possibility.
Brandy (40:03):
I love that.
Wendy (40:04):
I mean, we're limited by what we think is possible. Yeah.
So there's so many differentdirections because your book
covers so much ground. There's alot of really good, rich
material in there, includingvery explicit steps to walk
someone through the process ofeverything you've learned and
what you did to heal yourselfand how you're working with
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other people. So I encouragepeople, if they're intrigued, to
check out your book.
Are you working with people?You've referenced a couple of
times that you work with folks 1on 1.
Brandy (40:38):
So I take people on my podcast, and I'll show them how
to release their own pain orunder medical equipment. And I
just actually had some casestudies published in a medical
journal recently. And and so mydrive is to demonstrate it. And
so a lot of times, I don't workwith people 1 on 1. I work with
people in classes or they gothrough my video course because
to me, the ultimate empowermentis everybody feeling empowered
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in themselves.
And so that's ultimately whatI'd love to see. But yes, I do
work with some people sometimes,but that's mainly how I operate.
Wendy (41:10):
If people wanted to learn more, you said you have an
online course.
Brandy (41:14):
I do have an online course.
Wendy (41:15):
And a podcast.
Brandy (41:16):
And a podcast. And on the podcast, that is exactly
what I do is I just takevolunteers who are experiencing
pain and I show them how torelease it. And it's really
cool. And on my website, there'sa video of me working with
somebody under thermal medicalequipment. And so, doctor
Hillary Smith so when I do itunder medical equipment, I use
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medical thermal imaging.
And what that is is basicallyit's as the name says, thermal
imaging. And so it shows theheat from the body. And an an
easy way to think about it is ifyou've ever had an infection or,
a sprained ankle or somethinglike that, there's heat from it.
Let's say somebody has neckpain. You'll see the scan will
be all red, and then I'll showsomebody how to release their
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own pain.
And you'll literally see thescan go from red to green as
their pain goes away. And so onmy website, there's also a video
of me doing that very thing andshowing somebody under the scan
how to release their own pain.So, yeah, it's pretty incredible
what we are all capable of.
Wendy (42:17):
Yes. It is. Alright. So how do people find you?
Brandy (42:20):
My website is brandygilmore.com, and Gilmore
has 2 l's.
Wendy (42:25):
Alright. So you can check out Brandy's website then if you
wanna learn more. Is thereanything in closing that you
feel like I didn't really coverand you wanna get out there?
Brandy (42:36):
I think in closing, I would say that number 1, 2 so 2
specific things. I would say, 1,it's truly incredible what we're
capable of. And I mentionedpain, but I've seen people heal
from all kinds of things. Andit's not just about belief. It's
far beyond.
So people a lot of times think,oh, you have to believe. And
what started me even on myjourney is I've have a history
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of taking people who don't wherepeople say, oh, that's
impossible. And I say, okay.Let's go. Come on.
Wendy (43:03):
That's that's gotta be very rewarding.
Brandy (43:06):
It it is because there are told you. It's it's more so
I didn't feel like I could. It'smore so waking up the old me who
didn't feel like I could do italso. It's more so showing
people that it's not all aboutbelief, and I would say that.
And and so that's the firstthing.
And the second thing, Wendy, Ihave to say, you're just lovely.
You're lovely. You're wonderful.You're just a a pleasure to sit
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and have a conversation with.
Wendy (43:30):
How nice. I wasn't expecting that. Thank you. It's
very kind. Oh, right back atyou.
Brandy (43:37):
Thank you.
Wendy (43:38):
Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on and chatting
with me. I really appreciate it.
Brandy (43:43):
Likewise. Likewise. Thank you so much for having me.
It's been a pleasure.
Wendy (43:47):
And she totally took me by surprise at the end there. If
you'd like to learn more aboutBrandi and her rapid healing
technique, please check out herwebsite, brandigillmore.com.
Thank you very much forlistening, and a huge thank you
to Stephanie and Joanna fortheir generous donations to the
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If you'd like to donate, there'sa support this podcast link at
the end of the show notes.Alright. That's it for today's
episode. Until next time.
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Okay. So let's get to today'sepisode. My guest, Brandy
Gilmore, went from working innetwork engineering and
operations to being disabled foryears. And then she became the
number one rapid results healingexpert. In this episode, Brandy
(02:21):
shares how she discovered how toheal herself and how she uses
what she learned to help othersheal.
In her new book, Master YourMind and Energy to Heal Your
Body, Brandi reveals the key tounlocking these results to help
you gain clarity andunderstanding of self healing in
a way that's mind expanding.Please enjoy my conversation
(02:42):
with Brandy Gilmore. Brandy,thank you so much for joining
me.
Brandy (02:51):
Wendy, thank you so much for inviting me to join you.
It's beautiful to connect withyou.
Wendy (02:57):
Well, I am eager to talk to you about your book. It's
called Master Your Mind andEnergy to Heal Your Body. You
can be your own cure is thesubtitle. I can get back in
that. Yes.
So you have quite a story. Iwould love to start probably
where everybody wants you tostart in these conversations by
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hearing a bit about whathappened to you that led you to
write this
Brandy (03:26):
book. It is literally the last thing that I ever
thought that I would be doingwas writing a book on mind body
healing, ever. Mind body energy,any of that. So I used to do
network engineering andoperations, and, basically, I
had an accident. And,technically, I had 2.
I had a car accident, and then Ihad a fall. And I fell just
wrong, just right, however youwanna say it. But, basically, I
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went from living a full life tobeing wheelchair, walker, cane.
You know, on a good day, I couldget out with my wheelchair,
walker, cane, and on a bad day,I didn't get out of bed. And I
was just on morphine and extremepain for many, many years.
And my doctor said that therewas nothing they could do to for
me to heal, and I was literallystarted trying diet and
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supplements and everything thatI could find. And there was an
interesting turn of events.Every time I went to any type of
specialist, I would say, well, Ijust you have to have some
there's something. Like, youhave to like, I wouldn't wanna
leave the office until theycould give me some type of
referral. Because it was like Icouldn't lose hope of my future.
You know? And so the hospital,one of the top research
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hospitals that I've been goingto, got me into a study. And I
thought, oh my gosh. This isgonna be amazing. I I'm gonna
get my life back because that'swhat you hope for.
You hope somebody's gonna inventsomething new. And so they got
me into this study, and Iliterally remember counting down
the days to this study thinking,oh my gosh. Like, I felt like a
kid before Christmas. Like, I'mgonna get my life back. And long
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story short, on the day of thestudy comes, my friend wheels me
and takes me into the hospital,wheels me in my wheelchair.
They get me all prepped in thehospital for the procedure. And
the doctor, he comes in and hesays, you know, I'm sorry, but
you can't be a part of thisstudy. We we don't expect you to
get better. And I just felt likethere was this tennis ball in my
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throat. Like, I swallowed it.
Like, I just was choking backthe tears, just trying to be
okay. And the next memory Ihave, I'm laying in my same bed
at home, and I'm in all of thispain, and and I don't even wanna
live. I'm just like, what's thepoint after I left? It's just
like, I'm I'm not gonna getbetter. I can't live like this.
And then I had this voice orthought come into my mind. It
was like, well, Brandy, but whatabout the placebo? In that
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moment, I thought, you know,it's a known fact that a certain
percentage of people can getbetter. And I had already been
trying positive thinking,meditation, and theta state. All
of these things weren't working,but I it led me to really
explore why does the mind work,what is what's happening, and
how does it work, and how can Iget real results?
And it just led me on thisincredible journey that now has
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led me to write this book.
Wendy (06:05):
Okay. So it started with the rejection from the study.
Yeah. You're already kind ofgoing down that road exploring
what would help me feel better.
Brandy (06:14):
Yeah. The the rejection from the study was more so it
may be ground the information.Because before I had been doing
the meditation and visualizingand theta state, like, trying it
and it made me say, okay. And itand I was all over the place. It
wasn't like anything was linear.
I was like, I'll try this and a10 of these and 5 of these.
Whatever it was, I didn't care.
Wendy (06:35):
Yeah.
Brandy (06:36):
But what I would say that did is it made me say,
okay. Well, there's the placebo.And so what happened is then I
started saying, okay. Well, I'mgonna convince myself I'm
already healed, because Ithought that the placebo worked
based on belief. However, whenit wasn't working and wasn't
working, and I was I was reallygood at convincing myself, so
much so I had, like, multiplerealities.
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I was pushing myself, and itwasn't working. And then I
finally as I was researching,came across the awareness that
there's something called an openlabel placebo where both the
doctor and the patient both knowit's fake, and it still works.
And I was like, oh, wait asecond.
Wendy (07:12):
Does that work? Yeah.
Brandy (07:14):
Yeah. Like, if and so if they both know that it's fake,
then it's not all about belief.And that's what you know, I so
so then it led me on thisjourney where I started looking
at another thing that was justeye opening was multiple
personality disorder. Theawareness that people can have
different illnesses when they'rein different personalities. They
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could have back pain andallergies in one personality and
asthma and heart palpitations orheadaches or whatever it is in
Crazy.
Wendy (07:42):
Right? Crazy. One personality is left handed. The
other is right handed.
Brandy (07:47):
Yeah. And, different body temperature, blood
pressure, all of these things.Yeah. So and what was also
fascinating was a few things,was medically documented
illnesses were not present inany other personality. And
there's even a a woman who'sfascinating was that it was
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always in the same personality.
So meaning that if one person,she maybe called herself Jane,
but let's say she had analternate personality that
called herself Sue. Maybe Suealways has back pain, but Jane
always has headaches and adifferent personality, and it
could always have somethingelse. And it was consistent with
the same personality, and so itreally helped me to start
(08:35):
looking at the awareness that itmust be in our mindset
somewhere. And, of course, atthe same time, I started
researching energy and how thatwas all connected and and
biochemistry. And so it was justthis entire dev just delving
into research saying, how doesthis work?
Wendy (08:54):
It's quite mysterious. I've always been interested to
figure out why some people healreally well and thoroughly and
other people don't. But thecommon denominator is that they
both want to heal.
Brandy (09:07):
Yeah. And, I mean, this is the thing. Obviously, like, I
researched for about 6 years. Sofor me to do that day in and day
out and research, I actuallyfound that it was, like, it was
not only like an addiction, itwas a form of survival. I found
on the days that I didn'tresearch if I didn't research
for a couple days in a row, myworld was black.
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I was not in a good state atall. I was depressed and
everything. So I was just it wasa survival. And so I wanted to
get better, obviously, theentire time, but it was still
about also understanding howdoes it work. And that's
basically one of the things thatwas key is our minds do so much
more than people realize.
Our minds direct our energy, anda lot of people think spiritual
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like, the energy is just aspiritual notion. But,
technically, on the medicalside, there was a medical
scientist who discoveredbiophotons or energy, light
energy from the body back in the19 twenties and was nom
nominated for the Nobel Prize 11times. And so it's interesting
that in our world a 100 yearslater, here we are even with a
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lot of people thinking thatenergy is just a woo woo thing
or a spiritual notion when it'sI mean, there there's even
research on light energy fromthe body that's in a database
that's like, a collaborativedatabase that's run by Harvard
and the Smithsonian. So, I mean,it's very much real, but it's
funny how many people don'trealize that it's real.
Wendy (10:37):
Let's talk about the biophoton and how that relates
to the body and healing.
Brandy (10:43):
So many ways. Okay. So if we said exactly what you just
mentioned, you said, how does itrelate to the body and healing?
So that was your specificquestion. And it's an exciting
question.
I love this question. So thereare so many ways. So a a few
things. 1st, research has shownthat different illnesses can
emit different types offrequencies. So for example,
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somebody who has type 2diabetes, they'll have higher
biophoton emissions from thenavel area, but less from the
forehead compared to somebodywho is nondiabetic.
And and kind of to go biggerpicture for a moment just to
make sure that everybody has aan idea of biophotons. An easy
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way to think about it is this,is that if you picture if you
think about a particle of light,so a light bulb emits particles
of light or the sun emitsparticles of light and they're
called photons. And now the bodyhas bio photons and basically
they're called bio photonsbecause it's from a biological
organism. Now, initially, Imentioned that they were
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discovered in the 19 twenties.So Alexander Gershwich is the
one who discovered them, and heinitially called it mitogenetic
radiation.
But then later, it was renamedto biophotons. And so,
basically, a researcher namedPopp, actually renamed them to
biophotons. But what'sfascinating about biophotons is
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is, 1, as I just mentioned,different illnesses have
different frequencies. Evencancerous cells have different
frequencies. Another thingthat's really interesting is
that research suggests that thislight energy can actually
communicate things likehomeostasis throughout the body
and information throughout thebody.
Now some people might think,how's light energy gonna
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communicate informationthroughout the body? If we look
at Wi Fi, I mean, Interneteverywhere, fiber optics. So
fiber optics is exactly that. 5is a glass tube with light
that's transmitting cable,Internet, emails, text messages
all over the world. So light isactually really good at carrying
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information.
And so and so there's there's somany ways. I mean, I I could go
into another way. AlexanderGershwich, when he first
discovered light energy, one ofthe things that he discovered
about it is it had the abilityto influence cellular
proliferation. And what cellproliferation is is, basically,
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a simple way to think about itis if you picture dish soap. If
you pour water on dish soap, itbubbles up.
And so it grows and divides,grows and divides. And,
basically, our cells, when we'reworking on wound healing, they
grow and divide, grow anddivide, grow and divide. Or
there's also abnormal cellproliferation, which is
something like tumor or canceror whatnot or even but a lot of
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illnesses are connected toabnormal proliferation such as
rheumatoid arthritis or allkinds of things. So but,
basically, in his studies, hefound that this light energy
could actually influencecellular proliferation, and that
was profound. So there's just somany different things that are
profound about it.
And further, research has shownthat our minds and our thoughts
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and our emotions can actuallyinfluence the biophoton
emissions that are coming fromour body.
Wendy (14:07):
I was wondering if in your research, if you ever came
across and I don't rememberreading this in your book. And
maybe I did and I I forgot andI'll blame it on my
postmenopausal brain. But whenyou're looking at the frequency
of sound and that our systems,when they're out of harmony,
they actually have I mean, it'slike sound related. And so,
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like, sound healing is all aboutbringing disharmony back into
harmony. Did you ever comeacross anything along those
lines?
Brandy (14:40):
A lot of the sound stuff because I I as far as music and
whatnot, one of the things thatI love about music is is, you
know, if you bring in intensepositivity with music, it can,
of course, increase dopamine andand biochemical, you know, and
emotional, reaction to it.
A strong emotional reaction toit, which is which is beautiful.
I would say that this type ofenergy, this the working with
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biophotons in this way, it is abit different in that that it
was directly linked to emotions.But I see that with a with a big
however, and this is the reasonwhy, is because research has
shown that there's a directcorrelation between a person's
thoughts and emotions and theirbiophoton emissions. And so if
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somebody is, of course,listening to music and enjoying
it, then presumably, that woulddefinitely, obviously, create a
difference in biophotonemissions.
Now there's other interestingthings such as there was a
research study where researchersasked participants to visualize
white light. And as they did,they were able to see increased
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biophoton emissions out of theright side of their heads, but
not out of the left side. And sowhat's interesting is is that it
also shows that energy andbiophoton emissions can increase
in certain parts of the body andnot others as well. And so I
would say it really depends onwhat's going on in a person's
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mind. You know, people withanger, they'll have increased
biophoton emissions.
And so sometimes you'll hearpeople say, well, just increase
your energy, increase yourenergy. Well, that's not the
case. That's that's not theanswer because cancer cells have
increased biophoton emission. Soit's not it's not just about
increasing it. It's aboutcreating that shift.
But, of course, going back toyour, your comment about music
Wendy (16:33):
Just sound in general, tones, and and that kind of
thing.
Brandy (16:37):
Yeah. I mean, if you think about it for a moment,
knowing that there's a directcorrelation, the research has
shown there's a directcorrelation between EKG and
biophoton emissions, thendefinitely, it would really
depend on how a person's feelingand taking in that music, but
absolutely.
Wendy (16:55):
It's all frequency. Whether it's light frequency or
sound frequency, it's operatingon this level that is sub
perceptual.
Brandy (17:04):
As you can probably tell from my book, I love to geek out
on the research stuff. So inother words, basically, what I
kind of did is I took all of thepieces. Like, what I try to do
is everything that I ever sayand do, I like to do research on
it and show it. So that'sactually kind of what led to the
book is basically after I healedmyself, I thought people are
gonna think I'm nuts to go downwheelchair, walker, cane. I
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mean, I was a mess.
My legs were about the same sizeas my arms. And I thought going
from network engineering andoperations to I I mean, I was
like, right now, I'm about 125.You know, I'm 5859, 125, and I
was £93. I was so I had lost,like, £30 something. I was I was
a mess, and I was weak.
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And, I mean, just, I was a mess.And so I thought people are
gonna think I'm nuts that Isomehow healed with my mind. And
and I was like, okay. Well, myinitial thought was I'm just
gonna show my doctors how I didthis. They're gonna wanna share
it with everybody.
And I was like, but I just haveto show them how it works. And
so it sent me on this journey tosay, okay. I just have to show
other people. So I would thenstart showing other people and
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then taking people and showingthem how to release pain with
their own mind. And they werelike, oh my gosh.
My pain is gone. And peoplestarted asking me to speak, and
so I started speaking on stages.Then I would take people from
the audience that who wereexperiencing pain, and I would
show them how to shift out ofpain. And then there was one
time when I was getting offstage and I thought sometime at
some point, somebody's gonnasay, that can't be real. That's
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gotta be a plant, a fake personfaking that they have neck pain
or back pain or whatever.
And, you know, that would havebeen me because I was world's
biggest skeptic.
Wendy (18:42):
Right. Right.
Brandy (18:43):
That would have been me. So so I thought, well, I have to
show this under medicalequipment so people can see it.
And then that drove me to thenshow it under thermal medical
equipment so you can actuallysee the pain where the pain is
there, and you can see it on thescan, and then it's gone just
from somebody using their mind.And so it's just been this
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unplanned this passion to thenafter I healed myself that I
just I hate seeing other peoplewho are sick and stuck and in
pain. And it's like, but I justwanna show everybody, hey.
We can do this. We're allamazing. It's not just me.
Wendy (19:16):
It doesn't have to be this way. That was the thing
that really struck me about yourbook is the first third of it
reads like a a detective novelin a way that you're we have
this bird's eye view of everystep you took in your journey to
figure out what the hell isgoing on and how do I heal
myself and trying to understandhow this all works. And then the
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rest of your book is dedicatedto sharing what you learned and
how you put it together in thesetechniques. I think it would be
cool if you wouldn't mindgiving, like, an overview of the
techniques or maybe a taste, asample, like what you would do
when you bring somebody on stageto help them, reduce their pain
or eliminate their pain? Like,what is it that you learned and
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how do you describe it to folks?
Brandy (20:05):
Alright. So I would say a a few things, and I'm just
gonna, like, pour into you for amoment. So here we go. So I
would say one thing I learnedwas this, is that different
combinations of emotions affectthe body differently, and this
was foundational. A simple wayto think about it is this, is
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that if somebody's embarrassed,their face can turn red, or if
they have a panic attack, that'sa different emotion, or sexual
thought, that can affect thebody in a completely different
way.
Now, of course, as I'm goingthrough my injury, we've all
heard of stress and emotionsbefore, and I thought I need a
lot more than emotions to helpme out of this situation. But
then I started looking at a fewthings. Number 1, that one study
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after another after anotherafter another has shown that
optimism after surgery candramatically influence healing
rates. That people have muchbetter success rates, cellular
proliferation is improved, andif they're in fear or anger or
upset, that their healing ismuch slower. They can have a lot
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higher complications,rehospitalization, all of these
things.
And I thought, well, that'safter surgery. So there's gotta
be at least something to theseemotions. And then and then, of
course, looking at it andthinking about the widowhood
effect, where a senior can losea spouse and have a much higher
rate of death. And I thought,okay. Well, I can also see that
emotions can actually impact usto the point of death, and
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there's many different waysthat's recorded.
And so was that. It was reallyunderstanding that in so many
ways, our emotions, whether youwanna look at the brain body
connection and and thehomunculus map, but
understanding the brain bodyconnection or energy or
biochemistry or whatnot, we cansee there's so many ways. And so
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then because I continue toanalyze MPD, you know, or DID,
and and what I mean by that ismultiple personality disorder or
it's also known as dissociativeidentity disorder, and the
awareness that differentpersonalities could have
different ailments, and, also,people who are happy could have
illness also. And what I startedto realize was it was a certain
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combination of emotions. And theeasiest way to think about it is
like this, is that if somebodywants to make cake and they have
flour, well, they can't makecake.
But if they mix it with eggs andbutter and other ingredients or
vegan eggs and butter and otheringredients, they can, of
course, make cake. Now, ofcourse, illness is a lot
different than cake, but mypoint is Yes. Much different.
Believe me. I have it.
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More than cake.
Wendy (22:39):
If only if only it was as easy as making a cake!
Brandy (22:45):
And so it was just it realizing that that just like
food, different ingredientscreate different things. So
somebody can have PTSD, and theymay not have a health issue, but
it depends on the combination ofemotions. So that was one thing.
So when I work with people undermedical equipment or even to get
results, that's part of theprocess is, okay, identifying
what specific emotion and whatspecific pattern and then
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transforming that. So that is akey thing.
And so even when I work withpeople in their medical
equipment, that's what I'll dois I'll identify, okay, what are
the specific ingredients? Whatdo I need to help them to then
shift? And so that was aprofound awareness. Now creating
that change was one thing.Another thing was a lot of times
people are trying to work on onespecific trauma, but we have
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patterned ways of thinking andfeeling that persist.
And so a lot of times, ifsomebody's experienced a trauma,
it's part of a bigger pattern.That's what I experienced is I
had a trauma, and it was part ofa patterned way of thinking and
feeling. So in other words, forexample, somebody may have a
pattern of feeling abandoned,and yet they can have traumatic
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abandonment, so to speak,multiple times throughout their
life and also have a pattern ofit in little ways that show up
all of the time. And so my pointis, is it to get results, it
wasn't just about solving onetrauma. It was about
understanding that there's apatterned way of thinking and
feeling and then shifting that.
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And so that was really profound.I could go on and on, but that
was a key.
Wendy (24:19):
Yeah. Well, that's a huge one. Right? I mean, I think what
you're insinuating is the powerof the unconscious mind and how
these patterns get embeddedbecause of conditioning and or
trauma and a variety of otherways that we don't even realize
how much they're influencing us.And you're suggesting that now
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correct me if I'm wrong here.
You're suggesting that thesepatterns can influence how well
you heal or don't heal.
Brandy (24:49):
Absolutely. And even if we look at the bigger picture,
there's been one research studyafter another that shows even
optimism can help protect fromdifferent types of illnesses,
and even people who areoptimistic can live about 15%
longer than others. And so wecan see that that there that our
emotions affect our body and ourlongevity and and all of that.
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Now what I started looking atwas even if we look at Freud's
work or we look at things likerepetition compulsion or
reenactments or attractiontheory or law of attraction,
whatever you wanna call it, wehave pattern ways of thinking
and feeling and we attract onthat similar note. So let's say
that somebody has a pattern ofself criticism where another
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person might have a pattern offeeling guilty or another person
may have a pattern of abuse.
And, you know, kind of a acommon example that I'll give is
is, unfortunately, we've allheard before that a woman can
have an abusive father and thenleave him and find the abusive
boyfriend, boss, spouse,etcetera, etcetera. Now she's
not trying to do that onpurpose. It's not like she
leaves her father and says, Ihope to have an abusive man or
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husband. You know? But thatcontinues.
And so our subconscious mindplays out in our life more than
we realize, and that's whatreenactments or repetition
compulsion is all about, is theawareness that our minds have a
tendency to go back to the sametrauma, the same emotional
experience over and over andover again. And so what I
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started looking at was exactlythat. I was saying, okay. Well,
there's embarrassment effects.The we know that that, somebody
their face can turn red or panicattack or sexual thought.
And I thought, well, we can seethese emotions affect the body
or somebody's nervous orsomebody can have so much fear
that they get scared their heartskips a beat. That's their
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heart. And that well, okay. Ifwe know these emotions affect
the body, well, what are theother emotions doing that we
don't know? And and if we canabout
Wendy (26:51):
You're talking about the obvious ones versus the not
obvious ones. Right?
Brandy (26:54):
Well said. Yeah. Okay. Well said. Absolutely.
And so realizing that theseemotions are running in our
subconscious mind. And so it wasit was about that. It was about
understanding, okay. Well, whatis the patterned way of thinking
and feeling? What are thespecific emotions that are
affecting me and and how do Icreate a real shift and change
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them?
Wendy (27:16):
And that's probably the most challenging aspect, right,
is how to become aware of shitthat you're not aware of.
Brandy (27:23):
How to become aware of shit you're not that's a good
way to say it. I like that. It'swell said.
Wendy (27:28):
But that's why I love the word lucid so much. Lucid is
probably my favorite word.
Brandy (27:34):
I love that.
Wendy (27:35):
Because it's about awareness, like, how to be more
aware and awake while you'reliving your life. Not just lucid
while you're dreaming, but lucidwhile you're out and about. So
yeah. How did you figure out howto become aware of shit that
you're not aware of?
Brandy (27:53):
Basically, multiple ways. I would say one is that if
we look at the analogy ofsomebody who's really, really,
really upset and they're really,really upset and you try to
reason with them, how does it gonot so well? But if they calm
down, they can see things in adifferent way. They have a
greater sense of self awareness.They can have a greater sense of
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seeing the situation.
And so I kind of took that to amuch deeper level and said,
okay. Well, the more I can calmmy mind and really calm my mind
and then also start tuning inand noticing what I'm really
feeling, the more I can becomeaware. And so there were again,
there there were multiple thingsthat I did, but that was one.
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It's it's starting to to do thatand to understand also that the
more that I could calm emotions,the more I could see with more
clarity. Now a lot of times whenpeople think about calming
emotions, they'll think aboutmeditation.
But one of the things that Iactually needed to do was I
needed to stop meditatingbecause I had been meditating so
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much, and I had trained my brainto start ignoring what was in my
subconscious mind. Yeah.
Wendy (29:08):
Okay.
Brandy (29:09):
Yeah. So where I thought I was doing it wrong. Thought
comes into your mind, you ignoreit. A thought comes into your
mind, you ignore it. And and notonly that, but I was just
training myself to just be okaywith whatever thought.
And then I started to realize,wait a second. If there's
thoughts coming into my mind,they're coming from one place.
Wendy (29:28):
So I should pay attention, and maybe they have a
story to tell me?
Brandy (29:32):
Yeah. So instead of ignoring them, I started
understanding them and thinkingin a different way.
Wendy (29:39):
That's a different kind of meditation. Right? I mean,
it's still sort of a meditation.It's an inward focus instead of
that kind of more like, oh,watching the thoughts float by
and ignoring them or whatever,however you did it. It's more
like trying to hone in on themand discover what they have to
say.
Brandy (30:00):
Yeah. Like that. And how I did that no. No. No.
It it goes back to the multiplethings. I was so out of touch
with my emotions. I think when Iworked in technology, I didn't
even know I had emotions. Ithought
Wendy (30:13):
Oh, okay. So you were starting kinda from square 1.
Brandy (30:17):
Oh, yes. Maybe even square 0. I felt like if if you
do not have any emotion in amoment, it did not exist. Okay.
Like, the idea and remember, Imean, I was injured in 03.
So I have now been healed nowfor over well over 13 years now.
So so it's 20 years ago, and Ididn't know what the
subconscious mind was. I mean, Iwas literally I was new to all
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of it. And one epiphany for mewas I thought, well, intense
emotions had to be the key. Ifit's gonna be emotions and I was
like, but I'm not feeling anyemotions.
Wendy (30:49):
Okay.
Brandy (30:50):
And then I started to realize, oh, well, subtle
emotions. If I had a subtleemotion 3 weeks ago, and then
again I noticed it 2 weeks ago,and then again couple minutes
ago, it could only mean onething. It's buried in my
subconscious mind, and it'ssomehow a programmed way of
thinking and feeling. So thatwas an epiphany. And instead of
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saying that subtle emotionsdon't matter, I began to realize
they matter more.
Wendy (31:19):
I could see how profound that must have been then if you
felt like you really didn't havea relationship with your
emotionality and then you startinvestigating your emotions,
that must have been like, holycrap, this big wealth of
information. And then it's like,oh, I can start working with
this. I can start understandingmyself in ways that I haven't
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before?
Brandy (31:42):
Yes. And, I mean, when I say that I didn't realize I had
emotions, I mean, obviously--
Wendy (31:49):
Or you didn't have a relationship with them.
Brandy (31:52):
yeah. Yeah. I I didn't I mean, I was even at the time, my
doctors had said, woah, becauseI I was depressed. But they said
something like I was depressed.I'm like, I'm not depressed.
I have a problem. Like, if Ididn't have this problem, I
wouldn't be depressed.
Wendy (32:06):
Very logical.
Brandy (32:08):
It's very logical. I'm not it's not depression. And and
at the time, you know, maybe 20years ago, there might have been
a little stigma about that. So Iwas like I was I was like, I'm
not depressed. I have a problemif the problem would go away.
So I don't have a depressionproblem. I have an injury
problem.
Wendy (32:22):
It's in response to a really shitty circumstance. So,
of course, I'm experiencingsadness or depression or
whatever.
Brandy (32:30):
And fear
Wendy (32:32):
All of it.
Brandy (32:32):
My whole world felt like it, yeah, was was crashing down.
And and, yeah.
Wendy (32:37):
Must have been horrible.
Brandy (32:38):
You know, because I've deleted all of those, I my
biggest emotion is that Iwouldn't wanna go through it
again, and I wouldn't I wouldn'ttake it back if I could because
the way it changed my life. It
Wendy (32:49):
Absolutely. Yeah.
Brandy (32:51):
My life changed so much. It's incredible. And that's why
even in the book, I call it thegift and healing because I see
people like, I've worked withpeople who have gone from even
just releasing physical pain,but even I mean, worked with
other people who were bedridden,who have had tumors, who have
had autoimmune conditions, allkinds of things. And when it's
like when you really understandwhat's going in the subconscious
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mind and you make a change, itradically changes your life. And
so it's there's a gift in it,and that's what I love.
Wendy (33:23):
I don't know if this is sort of a a lame question or
not, but Never a lame question.We'll wait to hear it. Bring it.
So so through all of yourresearch and your experience and
your successes, not just withyourself, but with others, what
would you say really gets in theway of our body's ability to
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heal itself?
Brandy (33:48):
What gets in the way? I would say multiple things. I
would say if I were gonna gothrough a a list and name them
off, I would say some people,they have wounding, and they
don't wanna let it go. They havea resentment or an anger or an
upset, misconceptions aboutemotions. I can't tell you how
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often I've seen people who havebeen on the healing journey for
20 years, 30 years, who haven'thealed themselves, and they
think they have resolved anemotion.
It's kinda like this. Like, onehugely common misconception is
this, is that somebody mighthave hurt from the past, and
then they say, well, I forgavethe person, and they expect it
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to be gone. And it's that's likelooking in your refrigerator and
seeing food from 10 years agoand saying, but I forgave it.
And that doesn't make it goaway.
Wendy (34:44):
So I I mean, I'm I'm a talk therapist, but I think talk
therapy is limited because ithelps us to understand and
develop beautiful insights asto, oh, that's why I feel the
way I feel, or that's why Ibehave or react the way I do.
But it doesn't necessarily getrid of the reason why that's
happening, right, and how it'sliving in your body and having
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an influence. You can be awareof it and you can say, yeah.
Intellectually, I I forgive thisperson. But maybe deeper down
inside, it's not quite reachingthat true like, what does
forgiveness really, really mean?
I mean, it's a tough question, Ithink. That's just using your
example, but I think there'sprobably lots of examples like
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that.
Brandy (35:27):
I think also when you asked me, that must have been
really hard. And I said, I letall those feelings go. This is
what remains for me, is exactlythat example. Like, it's kind of
like when you just really don'thave the emotions anymore at all
and they're actually gone, it'sthat feeling. And so I would say
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the emotion is just not there,and one key piece of that can
also be changing yourperception.
You know? I mean, no matter howhard I try, I can't really find
the feeling that Santa Claus isreal. And I can't. I it's not
there. I don't have it.
And so what I would say issometimes a radical shift in
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perception can also be. But alot of times, what can happen is
people wanna validate theiremotions. They want them to feel
understood. They want them tofeel validated.
Wendy (36:17):
Very true. Yeah.
Brandy (36:19):
I would say that blocks people. I would say another
thing that blocks people areunderlying patterns of guilt or
shame that they have that it's apattern, and it keeps them from
making a shift. I would saythat's in there's there's so
many. But, yeah, I mean, that'swhat I always tell people
because they'll see me helpsomebody shift out of pain very
quickly, and it looks likemagic. And I say, but but it
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takes real change.
So I have helped people shiftunder medical equipment where
you can see it shift out ofpain, and they release it, and
it stays. And years years yearslater, it's gone. It hasn't come
back because they embrace thatchange. But if somebody goes
back into the negative, like,right afterwards, if they say,
okay. Well, you know, let's saythey have a lot of hurt from
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their husband, and so we shiftedout of the hurt, but then they
go home and they have anargument with him, then it could
come back.
And it's something that theyreally need to make an
actionable step to integrate intheir lives. And then so it's
it's real change. You can'ttrick your mind.
Wendy (37:20):
No. You can't. You can certainly try. Uh-huh. But
there's also a phenomenon wherepeople identify with their
wounding.
Like, it becomes a part of theiridentity. And so to let go of
that is, well, who am I if I'mnot this wounded, angry, sad,
depressed person?
Brandy (37:42):
Absolutely. Yeah. And that's when I mentioned there
was multiple ingredients, andsome ingredients make cake, some
make different recipe, That'sexactly what happens is there's
a combination and part of thatcombination can be the self
image where people have startedto identify with the injury.
Wendy (38:00):
So, yeah, in a lot of cases too, you're talking about
people's relationship withpower. So when you have that
perspective, you are powerlessto your illness, to your
wounding, and it's hard to healwhen you're in a place of
powerlessness. And what you'retrying to do, it seems like, is
to remind people how powerfulthey are.
Brandy (38:21):
That's ultimately my goal is this, is that the other
day, I worked with this woman,beautiful, beautiful being, had
foot pain for many, many, manyyears and helped her and been
everywhere and done all thesethings, and it helped her just
shift out of it. And she waslike, I'm flabbergant. Like, I
don't even know what to say. I'mI'm astounded, like, that we can
actually just do this. It it itwould be like if somebody's
(38:41):
walking around with anxietyattacks anxiety attacks, and
they didn't know it wasconnected to an emotion.
And they're like, I don't know.My body just keeps doing this.
And they had no idea that therewas emotional component. They're
like, I don't know. Every sooften, like, I just can't
breathe, and I don't know why.
And let's let's run some testson it. Let's figure it out.
Let's do this. Let's do that.And it's like, well, if you
resolve the emotions, you you'llstop going into those places
(39:04):
where you can't.
Like so we know that there's anemotional component there. And
then so if somebody has footpain or knee pain or an illness
or a thigh or all these things,there is an emotional component
that we're not even addressing.And so the way I kinda look at
it is also people used tobelieve that it was impossible
for human beings to run a a milein under 4 minutes, and then
there's the 4 minute mile whereRoger Bannister did that. And
(39:27):
then after that, people realizedthat we could do that, and more
and more people did that andbroke that record. And what I
see all the time is people startto realize, oh, we can release
pain.
We can heal our bodies. We cando this. And then I'll have
people who message in and say,oh my gosh. You know, Brandy, I
learned how to do it. Like, Ijust released my pain and my
(39:48):
headache went away or this,that, the other, and, oh my
gosh.
I did it. And that, a 100%, thatto me is if everybody knows that
we can do these things, that'swhat's incredible.
Wendy (39:59):
And that's my second favorite word is possibility.
Brandy (40:03):
I love that.
Wendy (40:04):
I mean, we're limited by what we think is possible. Yeah.
So there's so many differentdirections because your book
covers so much ground. There's alot of really good, rich
material in there, includingvery explicit steps to walk
someone through the process ofeverything you've learned and
what you did to heal yourselfand how you're working with
(40:26):
other people. So I encouragepeople, if they're intrigued, to
check out your book.
Are you working with people?You've referenced a couple of
times that you work with folks 1on 1.
Brandy (40:38):
So I take people on my podcast, and I'll show them how
to release their own pain orunder medical equipment. And I
just actually had some casestudies published in a medical
journal recently. And and so mydrive is to demonstrate it. And
so a lot of times, I don't workwith people 1 on 1. I work with
people in classes or they gothrough my video course because
to me, the ultimate empowermentis everybody feeling empowered
(41:01):
in themselves.
And so that's ultimately whatI'd love to see. But yes, I do
work with some people sometimes,but that's mainly how I operate.
Wendy (41:10):
If people wanted to learn more, you said you have an
online course.
Brandy (41:14):
I do have an online course.
Wendy (41:15):
And a podcast.
Brandy (41:16):
And a podcast. And on the podcast, that is exactly
what I do is I just takevolunteers who are experiencing
pain and I show them how torelease it. And it's really
cool. And on my website, there'sa video of me working with
somebody under thermal medicalequipment. And so, doctor
Hillary Smith so when I do itunder medical equipment, I use
(41:37):
medical thermal imaging.
And what that is is basicallyit's as the name says, thermal
imaging. And so it shows theheat from the body. And an an
easy way to think about it is ifyou've ever had an infection or,
a sprained ankle or somethinglike that, there's heat from it.
Let's say somebody has neckpain. You'll see the scan will
be all red, and then I'll showsomebody how to release their
(41:58):
own pain.
And you'll literally see thescan go from red to green as
their pain goes away. And so onmy website, there's also a video
of me doing that very thing andshowing somebody under the scan
how to release their own pain.So, yeah, it's pretty incredible
what we are all capable of.
Wendy (42:17):
Yes. It is. Alright. So how do people find you?
Brandy (42:20):
My website is brandygilmore.com, and Gilmore
has 2 l's.
Wendy (42:25):
Alright. So you can check out Brandy's website then if you
wanna learn more. Is thereanything in closing that you
feel like I didn't really coverand you wanna get out there?
Brandy (42:36):
I think in closing, I would say that number 1, 2 so 2
specific things. I would say, 1,it's truly incredible what we're
capable of. And I mentionedpain, but I've seen people heal
from all kinds of things. Andit's not just about belief. It's
far beyond.
So people a lot of times think,oh, you have to believe. And
what started me even on myjourney is I've have a history
(42:58):
of taking people who don't wherepeople say, oh, that's
impossible. And I say, okay.Let's go. Come on.
Wendy (43:03):
That's that's gotta be very rewarding.
Brandy (43:06):
It it is because there are told you. It's it's more so
I didn't feel like I could. It'smore so waking up the old me who
didn't feel like I could do italso. It's more so showing
people that it's not all aboutbelief, and I would say that.
And and so that's the firstthing.
And the second thing, Wendy, Ihave to say, you're just lovely.
You're lovely. You're wonderful.You're just a a pleasure to sit
(43:29):
and have a conversation with.
Wendy (43:30):
How nice. I wasn't expecting that. Thank you. It's
very kind. Oh, right back atyou.
Brandy (43:37):
Thank you.
Wendy (43:38):
Yeah. Well, thank you so much for coming on and chatting
with me. I really appreciate it.
Brandy (43:43):
Likewise. Likewise. Thank you so much for having me.
It's been a pleasure.
Wendy (43:47):
And she totally took me by surprise at the end there. If
you'd like to learn more aboutBrandi and her rapid healing
technique, please check out herwebsite, brandigillmore.com.
Thank you very much forlistening, and a huge thank you
to Stephanie and Joanna fortheir generous donations to the
podcast. Doing this show takes abit of time and expense, so
(44:10):
donations of any amount areincredibly helpful and very much
appreciated. Plus, they send themessage that you'd like me to
keep going.
If you'd like to donate, there'sa support this podcast link at
the end of the show notes.Alright. That's it for today's
episode. Until next time.
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