February 20, 2025 • 50 mins
Have you ever wanted to create change? Or unapologetically chase your dreams? Yet for some reason you stop before you ever get started? Do you ever feel stretched in so many different directions that it feels like you’ve lost your creative spark? My guest Becca Powers wants to empower you to unleash your potential and become everything you were meant to be. In this episode we discuss her new book A Return to Radiance: The POWER Method to Ignite Your Soul and Unleash Your Potential and the creative ways she helps people to get unstuck.
Becca has been referred to as the female Tony Robbins, is a renowned keynote speaker and the visionary Founder of Powers Peak Potential, a leading keynote and training company specializing in mindset mastery for high performers. From her humble beginnings as a minimum-wage Dollar Store employee to an award-winning, 20-year career as a Fortune 500 sales executive, Becca has perfected her expertise in empowering senior leaders and high-performance teams to unlock their full potential through her proprietary methodology, The POWER Method.
In this episode Becca discusses:
- What the word radiance means to her
- Un-potential
- Her early exposure to living a radiant life
- How she lost her radiance
- The five pillars of The Power Method
- Finding ways to both survive and live your radiance
- Looking to your early life for clues
- Selfishness
- Meaning making
- How finding meaning can deepen your connections with others
- Finding your purpose
- The importance of values
- Activating your personal power
Becca’s website: https://www.beccapowers.com/
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Wendy (00:02):
This is Wendy Halley, and you're listening to Lucid Cafe.
(00:31):
Hello. Hello. Thank you forjoining me for another episode
of Lucid Cafe, a podcastexploring consciousness and
healing and the complexities ofbeing human. And oh my,
complexities abound.
We've got some clown car actiongoing on here in the U.S., which
(00:55):
is unsettling in a variety ofdisturbing ways. I mean, if
someone wrote what's unfoldingas a novel, I don't think any
publisher would publish itbecause it would be deemed too
far fetched and the characterstoo one dimensional, Unless the
author wrote it to be ironic. Soour charge is to find ways to be
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okay. So, are you doing okay?Are you taking care of yourself
in the best possible way?
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some. Just reach out so we canfind a time for you to stop in.
Alright, let's get to today'sepisode.
Have you ever wanted to createchange or unapologetically chase
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your dreams, yet for some reasonyou stop before you ever get
started? Do you ever feelstretched in so many different
directions that it feels likeyou've lost your creative spark?
My guest, Becca Powers, wants toempower you to unleash your
potential and become everythingyou were meant to be. In this
(02:27):
episode, we discuss her newbook, A Return to Radiance, The
Power Method to Ignite Your Souland Unleash Your Potential, and
the creative ways she'sdeveloped to help people get
unstuck. That's some bad grammarright there.
Oof. Becca has been referred toas the female Tony Robbins and
(02:48):
is a renowned keynote speakerand the visionary founder of
Power's Peak Potential, aleading keynote and training
company specializing in mindsetmastery for high performers.
From her humble beginnings as aminimum wage dollar store
employee to an award winningtwenty year career as a Fortune
(03:09):
five hundred sales executive,Becca has perfected her
expertise in empowering seniorleaders and high performance
teams to unlock their fullpotential through her
proprietary methodology, thePower Method. Please enjoy my
lively conversation with BeccaPowers. Becca, thank you so much
(03:31):
for joining me.
Becca (03:32):
Happy to be here, Wendy. I can't wait to dive in. I
listened to a couple episodestoo, so I'm like, this is gonna
be a good conversation.
Wendy (03:39):
Oh, great. Well, thank you for listening. Thank you so
much. So you have a new bookout. It's called A Return to
Radiance (03:46):
The Power Method to Ignite Your Soul and Unleash
Your Potential.
That's like big stuff.
Becca (03:53):
Yes. It is big stuff. Uh-huh.
Wendy (03:56):
So Becca doesn't screw around, everybody.
Becca (03:59):
Go in. Like, my my maiden name is, like, my and it's my
author name too. His last nameis Powers, so I just go straight
in.
Wendy (04:05):
Yep. Why screw around, really?
Becca (04:08):
That's right.
Wendy (04:08):
Yeah. I'd love to just start with the word radiance
because it's not a word we use alot. No. What's your definition
of radiance with respect to yourbook?
Becca (04:20):
So radiance for me is well, I'll I'll define it first
and then I'll kinda share whatreally drew me to write about it
is in my perception of radiance,I I believe it's three parts.
It's one part our humanness.It's you as Wendy. It's me as
Becca, my personality, yourpersonality. It's one part our
soul, and it's one part infiniteintelligence.
(04:43):
So when I think about it thatway, I like to say our radiance
is two thirds cosmic. Right? Andthen one third human. And so the
thing that got me to write aboutradiance is I'm a Kundalini yoga
teacher, and when we'repracticing Kundalini yoga and
especially as I went through thethe trainings and I'm a level
(05:05):
two, so I've done a lot of work,the ending expression so there's
10 bodies in Kundalini yoga, andit's similar to, like, seven to
eight chakras, right, in in thechakra system, so they have 10
bodies. The final body is theradiant body, and that would be
if you were comparing it to,like, Maslow's hierarchy of
needs, it would be selfactualization.
(05:27):
And I just always thought it wassuch a beautiful expression as,
like, our radiant self is thefinal expression that we can get
to in this human experience. Andit's just something that I
always thought was beautiful.And then when after I had gone
through my own series ofexperiences, I was like, it's a
return to radiance because weare already that final
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expression. We're born thatfinal expression. We become
disconnected, and we just needto return to it.
So that's where kinda, like, thepremise came from.
Wendy (05:57):
Okay. Yeah. Some stuff does get in the way, doesn't it?
Becca (06:00):
It does. Life lives. Yeah.
Wendy (06:03):
Yeah. And that's really what your book is about is to
try to get the shit out of theway so that your radiance can
come forward.
Becca (06:10):
Yes.
Wendy (06:10):
And express itself. Yeah. So you talk about unpotential.
Becca (06:17):
Mhmm.
Wendy (06:18):
What made you come up with that term to describe?
Becca (06:21):
Unpotential. Well well, I start the book off in our in
burnout, in our traumaresponses, and stuff like that.
And and I'm always big on tryingto give easy language to
complicated things. And eventhough words like burnout and
trauma are used all the time,when I was doing all my research
(06:45):
and, again, on on the on thefull expression side, we're
talking about your fullpotential, your true potential,
your true self, your radiance,and all this stuff. But then
when we get stuck in the, we'retalking about trauma and burnout
and all these different things.
I'm like, really, it's just ourunpotential. You have your
potential and your unpotential.So I wanted to talk about it in
(07:08):
a new way so that way, maybe itlands different or inspires
someone who might be kinda numbto some of the common words that
are just being said all thetime.
Wendy (07:19):
So do you mean it as if someone is expressing their
unpotential or it's to try
Becca (07:23):
to
Wendy (07:23):
avoid expressing their unpotential?
Becca (07:26):
Well, I think maybe a little bit of both. I think that
we are made up of ourunpotential and our potential,
but I feel like we can get stuckin our unpotential even in the
best efforts of chasing bills,responsibilities, caretaking,
whether it's children or parentsor family members. I I was
joking around earlier. I waslike, life lives, but life does
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life. And we have to respond toit, but when we don't respond to
it intentionally or with highamounts of self care, and that
means different things, we canget stuck in our own potential
most of the time on accident.
Wendy (08:03):
Well yeah. No. I don't think anybody would
intentionally
Becca (08:06):
Yeah.
Wendy (08:06):
Strive to live their unpotential. Yeah. Yeah. I'm
gonna be the opposite of what Iwould really like to be and what
my gifts are. Yeah.
Yeah. But we do it. Right? Imean, it's not a conscious
thing. It's complicated.
Becca (08:20):
It is complicated. And that's why I say accidental
because, yeah, nobody means todo it, but we are are creatures
of being hard on ourselves. Sowhen I'm having these
conversations and people arelike, oh my god. I am in my
unpotential. How could I letthis happen?
Blah blah blah. My response isyou were just human. Right?
Like, you didn't intentionallybring yourself here. Just
Wendy (08:42):
Yeah. Just human. So I'm curious if you don't mind
talking about how you came towrite this book. I suspect that
your Kundalini practicecontributed quite a bit based on
how you've written the book.
Becca (09:01):
Sure.
Wendy (09:02):
Did you have a spontaneous Kundalini opening,
or did you work towards
Becca (09:08):
All all of it. I have a mess, and then I have the the
healing and the enlightenment. Imean, you're not never in a
fully enlightened state, butwhen you're meditating when
you're doing, like,transcendental meditations for
hours, you have some prettycosmic experiences. So
definitely have some downloadsfrom from that side of things.
But what really happened is acouple different things.
(09:31):
My quick personal story is I hada really awesome and unique
childhood. When I was born, itwas the late seventies, and my
parents were musicians. They hada cover band. And I got to the
first seven, eight years oflife, I I got to grow up
watching what I'm referring toas radiance. My parents were in
their gifts, their talents, andtheir strengths.
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They embodied them. They hadgigs. They were out doing
things. They had people over whowere doing the same thing. So I
had guitars and bongos andbonfires and all this stuff.
But what I witnessed were peoplebeing their true selves. What I
witnessed was people being in anexpression of joy and glee and
witnessing their potentialunfold. Right? And as I got
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older, my parents were so alivein this that as they had to
start chasing they had me, mybrother and I, and they had to
start chasing bills,responsibilities, caretaking,
all the things.
Wendy (10:31):
Survival dance.
Becca (10:32):
Yeah. They stopped doing their gigs. They stopped playing
music, and I saw them. It wasvery painful to watch somebody
who was once so alive shrinkdown. And my parents, both my
parents passed away very early.
If I was to say it was probablydepression related. My mom
passed away at 46, the age of46, and my dad passed away at
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the age of 62. So by the time Iwas 35, I had lost both my
parents. At that same timearound my 35 year mark, I'm 45
years now, so that's this isgoing back ten years ago, I was
doing the same freaking thing. Iwas, you know, working
Wendy (11:16):
As them, you mean?
Becca (11:16):
Yeah. I was I was that pattern, that generational
pattern was replaying itself. Ihave four kids. I had four kids
around the middle school agegroup. I was a senior leader in
organization.
So I had a team. I was grievingmy dad. So I had lots of
responsibilities, lots of thingsgoing on, and my radiance was
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dimming. And I felt burnoutcoming on, and I was faced with
extreme burnout. I I'm a I'mvery resilient, and it's a
strength and a weakness of mine,but I powered through everything
until one night I hit thebathroom floor.
And I was so emotionallyexhausted that I collapsed one
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night with after I put the kidsto bed. And in that moment of
what I would people from theoutside would see me as a
powerhouse on the inside, I feltthe most powerless I ever had,
and I was laying there on thebathroom floor. I didn't have
energy to call out to my husbandfor help. I didn't have energy
to to stand up, so I juststarted crying. And in, like, my
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most broken state, I called outto, you know, god, universe.
I need help. I can't do tomorrowthe same way I'm doing today,
and I only know how to dotomorrow the same way I'm doing
today. There is just a realdesperation for for help. And I
I got what I call my instantmiracle. Something shifted on
the inside.
I felt a voice or heard a voicefrom within said, Becca, you're
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the CEO of your life. And as I'mlaying there, I'm like, if if
I'm the CEO of my life, then Ihave a lot more power in this
than I think I do. And I hadjust started I might have been a
year into my Kundalini teachertrainings, and, like, it all
started clicking together. And Irose up off the bathroom floor,
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a different woman than the onethat went down, and I vowed that
I would never hit it again. Andif I stayed true to my vow, then
I would help other people nothit the bathroom floor.
And so this is kind of where allthe inspiration was. It was a
little bit of my childhood andthen going through extreme loss.
It was watching myself gothrough this and the pain I
caused myself, the pain I causedmy family, and then the joy and
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the beauty that I saw when I didreturn to my radiance. And I was
like, wow. I think if my parentswould had a road map like this,
they might still be alive.
And so I got very dedicated tobuilding the formula and writing
the book and all of that.
Wendy (13:46):
It's a powerful story. And, I mean, you describe, like,
a shamanic death and rebirthexperience in on your bathroom
floor. I mean, it's it's,
Becca (13:56):
Yeah. I get the goosebumps as you say that. It
was very visceral. I Oh, yeah. Iremember everything.
Yeah.
Wendy (14:02):
It leaves a mark, right, on your psyche. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Because, yeah, the person youwere has to die in order to
allow your truth to comethrough. And that's a really
it's a very difficult process togo through, and it's something
that I think we all go throughdifferent versions of it or
we're invited to.
And sometimes we don't takeourselves up on it, and life
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becomes really challenging rightafter you get that call and you
don't take yourself up on it. Sogood for you for well, I mean,
it also sounds like you were insuch a desperate place that it
was, like, maybe you felt likeyou had no option.
Becca (14:38):
Yeah. I was like I was just like, okay. I have to let
go of my inner control freak. Idon't got this. I don't got it.
Wendy (14:45):
Yeah. You have your specific circumstances of your
life, but I don't think it'sthat uncommon. I mean, I imagine
the three people that listen tothe podcast that that it's it's
very relatable. It's superrelatable. For anybody who's
listening, who's feeling, like,trapped, trapped in their
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circumstances, trapped in a lifethat's not really serving them
or working for them, if whatyou're offering is a little
lifeline.
Becca (15:16):
Yes.
Wendy (15:17):
And in the book, you talk about the power method. The word
power, of course, it's your lastname,
Becca (15:23):
and Mhmm.
Wendy (15:24):
It's the method you created.
Becca (15:26):
Yeah.
Wendy (15:27):
So can you talk a little bit about the power method?
Becca (15:30):
I would love to. So I there's five pillars to it. The
first letter is the p, andthat's protect your potential.
And I wanted to really make itabout the potential, and I go
straight into it starts straightinto, like, trauma and trauma
responses and burnout and allthis stuff. We it starts in the
ick.
Right? But it should. And whatI've realized over the years as
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I've healed myself and been apart of other people finding
their path and their healing andand their growth, what I've
noticed is that we weren't we,and I'm saying that generally
speaking, we're not given thetools to be aligned to our
potential. We're just go, andthere are things you need to do
to protect your potential toreally stay in your radiance
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because if you don't, like, youyou're gonna end up on the
bathroom floor. Or I was just,sharing this story with someone
else, and she's like, I wasn'ton the bathroom floor, but I had
to pull over the side of theroad in my car.
I had a car moment. You had abathroom floor moment, but I had
a car moment. So I do thinkeverybody relates to to this
breaking down piece. And andprotect your potential in pillar
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one, I give tools to help yousustain, to help protect your
potential, and to stay off thebathroom floor. And then when we
come come out of that phase oflearning how to protect your
potential, then it's aboutowning your opportunities.
And when I say that is that'svery part two is very much or
pillar two is very much amindset section where you're
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pulling yourself out of victimto victor. You're changing what
the meaning that you've assignedto things, including yourself.
You're discovering what yourvalues are and how you can align
them to help you succeed or tolive a more aligned life to your
truth. And so once we getthrough that, then we're going
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into the w, which is awaken yourworthiness. And I left that for
the middle pillar because Ireally think that we gotta kinda
get separated from the ick toget back to, like, oh, okay.
I got a little bit of thatcleared away. I'm feeling good
again, and now I can awaken myworthiness. I and I believe that
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we're born inherently worthy ofhaving great health, having
wealth, having healthyrelationships, doing work even
if it's whether it's a career oryou're an entrepreneur. But I
believe that we were givengifts, talents, and strengths to
work, to express ourselves inthrough create whatever creative
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expression that may be and thatwe don't have to try so hard to
do things. Like, we are alreadyinherently there.
So it's about, like, tappingback into that worth. And so
that's what I focus on in thethird pillar. The fourth one is
elevate your energy To be in atyour peak potential or to be in
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the truth of who you arerequires energy. I mean, we have
to get that inner system going,and so that's the the breath
work, the meditation, themantra. It's the work.
He is the work. Elevate yourenergy. And then r is the
really, it's rock your radiance,but that is the reward. When you
are in your radiance, you areable your character is strong.
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You start making a difference bywho you are rather than what
you're doing.
Right? And you're you're makingchange because you're showing up
as a change. And so that's thebest way to explain it simply.
Wendy (19:04):
Okay. Yeah. There's a lot there. Right? There's so much
I'm guessing that it wasn't aslinear a process for you like
you did No.
Ago. I don't know if it is foranybody, but you're trying to
help give some it almost seemslike a preventative. You've
written this book so that peopledon't have to end up on the
bathroom floor.
Becca (19:25):
That would be ideal. That's where I was coming from
energetically when
Wendy (19:28):
I wrote the book. Yeah. Right. Okay. So do you think
that even people who are borninto the most dire circumstances
that even they can rise abovehorrendous circumstances in
order to become what you'redescribing?
Becca (19:47):
I do. Because I think that I I've worked with all
different types of people frompoverty up into great wealth,
and I think that there's adifferent struggle in each stage
of life. Right? Where sometimesthe the people that I might meet
more in poverty are more in tuneto happiness and joy, but
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haven't figured out how togenerate the wealth. And I've
also met extremely wealthypeople who they don't even they
can't even tap into joy.
Happy They're miserable. Yeah.Yeah. And How sad. So I feel
that all circumstances are kindaunique to each person, and
that's how I try to approach itfrom the book is like, hey.
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You're you. I'm me. You're you,and you're the only one that
actually knows what you're trulycapable of. And so I tried to
approach a return to Radiance,meeting people where they are
regardless where they are onthat spectrum.
Wendy (20:47):
Yeah. It's so tough, at least from where I sit, to my
shamanic teacher, Hank, used totalk about the difference
between doing the survival danceand the sacred dance. It's a
different of what you're talkingabout. I mean, our culture,
western culture is set up in acapitalist way. So Yeah.
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We have to figure out what oursurvival dance is. But wouldn't
it be glorious if we could findwhat our sacred dance is and
then have it blend with oursurvival dance so that you can
do both.
Becca (21:22):
That's really yes. I'm so in alignment with that. I'm
like, air five. Yes. Because Ithink it's the and.
You know, when your survival'squestioned, it's really
sometimes hard to get to thatesoteric cosmic part of
ourselves. But it is the danceof the end. We're sacred and we
have to survive. Like, that'swhy I say our radiance is three
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parts, and and we're human andwe have to honor that human
part. But it's kind of cool tothink that two thirds of us is
cosmic because there's aninfinite source or infinite
intelligence out there that iscapable of serving us in this
journey so we don't have to beso human and stuck in it.
And that's kind of my invitationis the sake I love that you said
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that it's the survival, but withthe sacred. Like, we can do
both.
Wendy (22:09):
Yeah. It's recommended. I mean, to to pursue it, but I
think we can get so stuck in thesurvival dance that we don't
Becca (22:15):
For sure.
Wendy (22:16):
Have the energy or the drive, but you give so many
great tips to help people kindof get out of that. So I I wanna
touch on some of the points as Iwas reading your book that
really stood out to me asimportant things just to chat
about. Like, what do you thinkhappens to the dreams and the
possibilities we have when we'rechildren?
Becca (22:37):
Right.
Wendy (22:38):
Because they don't stay in the foreground. Right? So
what do you think happens tothem?
Becca (22:42):
You know, I I I used to play soccer, so I always say,
like, I'm like, they went to thebench. I had, like, they didn't
even go to the bench. They wentto the locker room, and we
forgot that they're there.
Wendy (22:50):
They're sitting at the bus!
Becca (22:52):
Yeah. They're still they're still there. But it's
it's true. I think you hadbrought up a point that from a
societal standpoint, we're veryprogrammed to survive.
And not only that, but we'reprogrammed to like, that's what
happy should be. It should bethe job, the house, the car, the
this, the that.
Wendy (23:09):
Right.
Becca (23:10):
And as long as we're doing that, then we've made it,
and we should be happy. Butguess what? When our dreams and
and and goals are left in thelocker room, there's an
emptiness that we feel. And whatI've learned is just simply the
invitation of inviting them backto the game, just using the
soccer analogy, at least getthem back to the sideline. We
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start to feel more whole.
And not only that, they're animportant part of our expression
when I'm talking about radiance.And I'll just use my, like,
myself as an example. When I wasa little kid, since you talk
mentioned about the kids, I'mlike, I have a story in there
that says the Care Bear goesthere. But when I was, like,
five years old, I was setting upmy Care Bears and whatever dolls
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and stuffed animals I had. II've always been a writer,
journaler, song lyrics, poems,whatever.
And whatever I wrote, I wouldset them up and I would I would
read to them what I wrote orspeak to them about whatever I
was developing. And that was avery like, it gave me energy. It
was exciting. It was fun, and itwas like a game I played with
them. And then I got older, andI told you, like, all the things
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that happened to me in 35.
I'm like, I I don't even by thetime I was 35, I can't even tell
you the last time I I wrote.Right? And part of my healing
journey when I got off thebathroom floor was I just
started journaling like crazy.And then as I started
journaling, I started to feelmore whole again. So it's like
and again, inviting those dreamsfrom the locker room back to the
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sideline.
I was kinda, like, dabbling withthem again. And then next thing
you know, I'm writing a book.And then now I have my second
book. And it's just one of thosethings if you're listening to
this, that that silly thing thatyou did when you were five or
six might actually be the thingthat lights you up inside and
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brings you life force. And itdoesn't mean I mean, I'm very
much a go getter.
It's my personality type. I'mvery a type. So when I was
writing, I'm like, oh, let me gopublish a book. Started climbing
climbing that, but that'sbecause it's fun to me, but not
because I don't have an outcomethat I would I enjoy being a New
York Times best selling author?Of course.
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But I am not writing to becomeone, if that makes sense. I'm
writing right for the joy of it.
Wendy (25:27):
Right. So I think you're hitting on such a key point is
that there are clues in ourchildhood.
Becca (25:33):
Yeah. Oh, I get the goosebumps as you say that. Yes.
Keep going.
Wendy (25:37):
Yeah. If we can hearken back to what made us excited
when we were really little,we're probably gonna get close
to what it is, what ourradiance, how it wants to
express itself.
Becca (25:50):
Yes. And I love that's how you said it too because it
it is like a life force. Itwants to express through us.
Wendy (25:56):
Yeah. I think back to when I was really little. Yeah.
What a little hammy kid I was.Right?
And, yeah, just a smartass evenback back
Becca (26:10):
then. It's funny.
Wendy (26:11):
Yes. Can you make a living being a smartass, do you
think?
Becca (26:15):
I think comedians do.
Wendy (26:16):
Yeah. That's true. That's true. Actually, yeah, that's
true. But, yeah, if you can tapinto that, then that's a lot of
the heavy lifting.
Right? Because It is. You're soopen when you're little because
your logical mind hasn't comeonline yet, and all the abstract
thought hasn't come online yet.So you're more pure, and you're
Yes. You're more in touch withthat immortal part of yourself
(26:37):
that has all the the wisdom andthe the blueprint for your life,
the potential blueprint, Ithink.
Anyway, that's just you don'thave to buy into that idea. But
also I'm saying is that theinformation is there and just
the things that excite you.Right? The things that bring you
joy or just the thought of themgive you that little thrill
inside.
Becca (26:57):
I love that so much because I think as adults too,
and the reason I said that I'mnot writing for the result, I'm
writing because of the joy andthat I enjoy putting frameworks
together. I enjoy figuring outhow I did things and how my
clients did things and put themin an order to help, you know,
someone else in a book. But youdon't have to have an outcome
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like that. I have had, I'veworked with a woman who was a
competitive dancer as a kid andin her thirties. She had no
hobbies, no passions.
She's just work, work, work,work, work. And I had asked her,
I said, well, what did you usedto do as a kid? What did you
love? And she said, I used tocompetitive dance. I was like,
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can you do that?
Like, can you by the time wemeet again, can you just go to,
like, Fred Astaire or something?I don't know. Like, find a dance
place. And she's like, well, I'mtoo old to competitive dance.
And I'm like That's sad.
And so this is how the dreamstart dying. And I was like,
you're never too old to dance.Maybe you don't have to be an
Olympic dancer, but you canthere's little local
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competitions. You don't have tobe a star. You just need to go
do it for the joy of it.
Wendy (28:10):
Or maybe it's just dancing. Right? It's
Becca (28:13):
just It's just dancing. Competitive. Yeah. Yeah. Just
I'm like, just go do it.
And she did get into dancingand, like, local competitions
and stuff. But what reallyhappened is her health
increased. Her income increased.She brought joy back. She was
collaborating with other dancerswho were just like she's like,
oh my gosh.
(28:33):
She's like, just being in theroom and seeing everybody dance
and the music and the energy.You could see her when I was on
the video calls with her justlight up the fact that she was
dancing again. And so that's myinvitation to the listeners is
that it doesn't have to have, ashiny prize at the end of it.
The prize is your joy.
Wendy (28:53):
The experience of it.
Becca (28:55):
The experience of it. Yeah.
Wendy (28:56):
And the impact that experience has on you.
Obviously, you're saying itchanges you, and it changes how
you're presenting yourself andhow people are perceiving you.
And how is that a bad thing.Right. Unless you're a complete
asshole.
And then it yeah. That'sdifferent. Yeah. But, yeah,
we're hoping that that thatwouldn't be your truth is that
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my truth is I'm an asshole. So,therefore, I'm going to that's
my radiance.
But that's never come up in aninterview before.
Becca (29:30):
Yeah. I haven't seen that yet.
Wendy (29:31):
My radiance is asshole ish? Everyone, you can ignore
that. Okay. So
Becca (29:39):
It's funny.
Wendy (29:41):
One of the other things, the topics that you touch on I
mean, you touch on so many. Iwas, like, just trying to write
down the ones that I thoughtwould be really good fodder. So
selfishness.
Becca (29:54):
Mhmm.
Wendy (29:55):
I think selfishness gets a bad rap, and you address that
in your book. So I do. Can youspeak to that?
Becca (30:03):
I would love to because I think I think a lot of people
who have the leader, highperformer, spiritual anything,
if you're a spiritualentrepreneur or practitioner, we
there's a level of servitude towhy we're doing the things that
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we're doing. We're trying toserve other people. And in that,
when you're showing up for otherpeople, you typically tend to
give. And that givingpersonality tells you that self
first is not a good thing, andthat goes to what you're saying.
It's it's selfish to putyourself first when you know
(30:44):
that you're here for a reason.
You're here for most of thesepeople have purpose, missions.
Like, they know that they'rehere for big impact. So, again,
it's kind of like life is awhole bunch of, like, duality
and dichotomies that you haveto, like, figure out, and it's
so weird. But this is, like, oneof them where, actually, it's
(31:05):
not selfish. It's self firstwhen you are able to prioritize
yourself, and that means sayingyes to yourself and potentially
no to other people and projectsso that you can say yes to
yourself first, you get morespace you within.
You get more energy and you getmore time. And when you have
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more space and you have moreenergy and you have more time,
guess what? You show up to serveso much better. So I always say,
I'm like, it's not selfish. It'sself first, and you just gotta
be okay with it.
You know?
Wendy (31:40):
Right. Yeah. Culturally, again, this is a a common
Becca (31:46):
Yes.
Wendy (31:47):
A common issue with women.
Becca (31:49):
For sure.
Wendy (31:50):
Being the nurturers, we have to take care of everyone
else. Right? So that message isdrilled in unconsciously. I
think it's generational. And sothe idea of putting myself
first, it just it can rub us thewrong way.
And if you're gonna say thattaking care of the self is not
warranted, that I don't havepermission to do that because
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it's selfish, then you'd have tosay, well, then because to me
selfishness is there's amalicious intent. Like, you're
trying to take advantage ofsomeone else for your own
benefit. And if you can answerthat question, like, am I trying
to harm someone by taking aminute for myself or doing some
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self care stuff or pursuing mydreams? Is that really
Becca (32:39):
Hurting someone?
Wendy (32:40):
Is that hurting someone? Actually, it's probably gonna
have the opposite effect.
Becca (32:45):
That's a really good reframe, Wendy. I like that you
shared that a lot.
Wendy (32:49):
Thanks. I'm glad it's I'm glad it's Yeah.
Becca (32:51):
No. I'm like, that's that was awesome.
Wendy (32:55):
So, yeah, self first. It's okay to put yourself first.
Becca (32:58):
And for any of the listeners, especially for the
women listeners, I just wannadouble click into something that
Wendy was talking about. Thisconcept was very hard for me
too. I have to I'm a mom offour. I'm a leader of a team, so
I've got, like, I'm basicallylike a team mom. I've got six to
eight people reporting to me.
And so I was at the bottom ofthe priority list when
Wendy (33:17):
I hit the bathroom floor.
Becca (33:19):
But when I was in my most powerless moment, and I can
still tear up thinking aboutthis, as I'm thinking about I
have thoughts racing a millionmiles a minute. And I'm like,
you know what's selfish is thatI didn't put myself first
because I'm almost I almost gothospitalized. And then I ended
up I pushed myself. I was soselfless that I ended up with
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autoimmune disease, and it tookme two to three years to really
heal. There was days I couldn'tget out of bed, and all I kept
thinking about during my healingjourney was how selfish it was
of me not to prioritize myselfbecause now who's suffering?
My family. I'm having to havepeople help take care of me. I'm
having to take days off workbecause I wasn't willing to say
(34:06):
yes to myself. That's prettyselfish. You know?
So it's just a mind flip on it.
Wendy (34:12):
But Yeah. Unintentionally. Yes. Of course.
But that's a great example.
And I think it's a really commonone too. Yeah. Mhmm. I think
about the mostly women who cometo, my wellness center and the
struggles they have with theirhealth and how this is part of
it, I think. Yes.
(34:33):
For a lot of us. Yeah. I mean,sometimes there's others
factors, but but just it's likethis long standing over time
building trajectory towards poorhealth because if you think
about it, a a lack of attendingto the self. Mhmm. Not in every
instance, but it's certainlythere's a common thread there.
(34:57):
Okay. So another really powerfulconcept you talk about is
meaning making. Oh, yeah. If Ithink about it, actually, a lot
of the concepts in your book, itdoes remind me of you being a
CEO of your own life becauseit's kind of like, what is my
mission statement as a humanbeing? How many of us think
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about that?
A lot of people ask thequestion, why am I here? What's
my purpose? That does seem likea sad question that a lot of us
ask Mhmm. That we don't know,that we feel so disconnected
that we can't even answer thatquestion. But there is a
purpose.
It may not be grandiose, butthere is some reason why you're
(35:41):
here. So how do you talk aboutmeaning making with folks?
Becca (35:46):
So when I was going through my own healing and then
I did a bunch of certificationstoo in shadow I did a
certification in limitingbeliefs and shadow beliefs. It
really made me look at meaning adifferent way and made me
reflect on some of the thingsthat I had been through and some
of the mental shifts I made. ButI didn't really know what I was
(36:06):
doing, but I was like, oh,that's what I did. Is that
meaning gives an emotionalvibration. And when our meaning
has pain attached to it, to anevent or to a person, we
actually reinforce, like, a alower vibration.
And we I mean, this is kindalike law of attraction stuff,
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but p I don't know if peoplethink about it in relationship
to meaning and how that couldkeep us into, like, a lower
vibrational stance. So you couldeven be doing all the law of
attraction stuff, but still notgetting results.
Wendy (36:40):
That's a great point.
Becca (36:41):
It might be because of what's going on around how
you're associating with things.And so when I really started
thinking about that, I was like,hey. Let's change the
conversation. When I can when Iwas going through my health
issues I'll just use it as anexample because I think a story
sometimes can help conversationslike this be easier to
understand. But think aboutthat.
(37:03):
I was I had connective tissueautoimmune disease, which is now
in remission, but it meant that,like, my joints and my bones
ached from the inside. Andthere's days I couldn't get out
of bed. And I could have sat inbed and felt sorry for myself. I
really could have.
Wendy (37:22):
And It's an option.
Becca (37:23):
Yeah. It's an option, and I did do it a couple days and
maybe a couple weeks. But atsome point, I got over myself.
Right? And I'm like, listen.
Like, I'm still alive. I stillget to choose to put my feet on
the floor even if it freakinghurts. I can still and I get
emotional thinking about itbecause it's like, when I chose
to live healthy in my mind, notlike and, yes, I had to do all
(37:47):
the things. I had to starteating better and moving my body
differently and stuff. But Ichose.
I'm like, I get to do this. I'mnot dead. You know? I get to put
my feet on the floor. I get tochoose to go move my body.
I get to choose to go cut thevegetables that I don't want to
eat. But guess what? I get tochoose that. And the more that I
started feeling empowered by mychoices, my meaning around like,
(38:10):
I felt very victimized. My dadhad died.
I'd hit that bathroom floor. Iknew I was going in a different
trajectory, but I still had togo through that that middle part
of some days really sucked andsome days were great. And the
more I shifted into I and I getto do this mindset, like,
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miracles started happening.Like, the struggle stops being
so struggled. And that's reallywhat my invitation is.
Like, what meaning are youassigning things to? Like, did
did your mom yell at you whenyou were little and that made
you feel like a bad girl? And soare you still carrying bad girl
energy with you, which is verycommon for women. So that might
(38:53):
be, again, a spot, an invitationwhere you can choose like,
that's an old pattern. Thatdoesn't serve me every time.
I don't do things. I don't takerisk because I don't wanna get
in trouble. Well, does thatreally serve you at 42 years
old? I don't know. I'm justmaking up a number.
But that's what I mean by, like,I I really take meaning and I
wanna drill into it because Ithink if it's an opportunity for
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us to live a much more healthierand radiant life if we can
purposely choose to change themeaning we've assigned to
things.
Wendy (39:26):
Very powerful concept, and it makes me wonder how many
folks with depression, if that'spart of their depression, the
onset of it is a lack of meaningin life. I remember reading that
people who have a terminaldiagnosis, if they have meaning,
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if they have a goal or somethingthat they're striving for, they
live so much longer becausethey're striving for something.
They have that meaning, thatpurpose.
Becca (39:58):
Mhmm.
Wendy (39:59):
As opposed to people who just sort of surrender and give
up. I think it depends on,again, on the diagnosis and the
circumstances and everything.
Becca (40:08):
Sure.
Wendy (40:09):
And, yeah, you think about an absence of I don't have
meaning in my life, Then whywould you wanna get up in the
morning? Right. The point. Doyou think it is difficult to
find meaning? It's kind of likethe dreams we had when we were
children.
(40:29):
You can recollect them becausethere were moments of joy in
your life. But do you think thatmeaning is tucked away
somewhere?
Becca (40:37):
I I do think it's tucked in, and I think it's I think
it's in there always wanting tobe expressed. And what I mean by
that is as adult and it goesback to some of the societal
conditioning that we've beentalking about. I think that
we're taught that meaning shouldbe an outcome. Like, oh, this
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award or this certificate orthis much in my bank account.
Wendy (41:01):
That's a good point. Okay.
Becca (41:02):
It's not meaning. Like, when I
Wendy (41:05):
That's a goal.
Becca (41:06):
Yeah. Right? And so when I was sick it's not the one gift
within sickness is it shiftsyour perspective, especially
when you get healthy again. Andso what I find is that there's
so our meaning comes in ourrelationships. Once I was able
to heal myself from the insideout, I started having very deep
(41:29):
and meaningful like, not evenconversations, but connections
with my kids, my husband, andtalk about meaning.
Then I was finding meaning. I'mlike, oh my gosh. Like, I have
meaning as a wife. I havemeaning as a mom. Not only do I
have meaning, but, like, I'menjoying this depth.
I'm getting to know people. So,like, there's this level of I'm
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getting fulfilled with meaningby exploring my curiosity and
seeing where it's going andseeing what's what's possible.
There is meaning in who you are.When you get more in touch as
I've been talking about thisradiance and as Wendy's been
saying, like, going back intothe joy of even things from
childhood, as those things comeup, you start realizing that
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your character is stronger thanit is. You start realizing, holy
crap.
I overcame this, this, this, andthis. Like, I didn't realize how
powerful I was. And then all ofa sudden talk about purpose.
People try to find theirpurpose, and they think it's a
job. Your purpose is oftenexpressed through who you are
(42:37):
rather than what you do.
And what I mean by that is we'rehaving this awesome conversation
about meaning. Like, I foundmeaning in helping other people
find their potential. Right? Andso as someone might go through
some of my work and get re intouch with that, I I got a
message today as a matter offact of, like, Becca, this book
(42:58):
has already, like, changed mylife. It's so good.
I ordered a copy from for agirlfriend who's really
struggling. And I think that'smeaning. I think that's purpose.
Absolutely. And so those thingsstart happening as a reflection
of who you are rather than whatyou're doing, and life gets to
feel more satisfying.
Wendy (43:18):
Okay. Before we wrap up, I have another question I wanna
ask. Sure. Do you have anyadvice for people who are
pursuing their dreams but aren'tseeing success?
Becca (43:30):
Keep going. And and alignment. I'm gonna talk about
values
Wendy (43:35):
really fast
Becca (43:36):
because I'll make it a quick story. But oftentimes,
when people are striving forsuccess success are are their
goals, like, it's the goal thatis the objective and not the
experience. And so I often say,like, focus more on I'm I'm a
big goal setter. I love superbig dreamy goals. I talk about
them in the book, but theoutcome should be a result of
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how all that alignment ishappening within you.
It's an inside out game. And forsomeone who's striving but not
seeing results, I typically findthat it's an alignment issue
with meaning that we've alreadytalked about that, so I'm gonna
skip that. But values is anotherbig one, and I'm gonna give you
an example. My number one valuestill to this day is meaningful
work. Doctor.
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Right? The thing is most of usdon't know what our values are,
and so I invite you to do, like,a values assessment. I have one
in my book. But when I found outthat my number one value was
meaningful work, I was notsurprised that I hit the
bathroom floor because I valuedit over myself.
Wendy (44:40):
Oh, good point. Okay.
Becca (44:42):
Mhmm. And so I would have never I had financial goals. I
had other things, but I valuedmeaningful work over myself. And
so I took myself out of my owngame. So I wouldn't I wasn't
able to hit some of themilestones that I had for myself
at that point in my life becausevalues have a light side and
(45:03):
they have a shadow side.
And, unfortunately, the shadowside of my relationship to my
values was winning the game. Andso that's just might be some
food for thought for somelisteners as you like, if you're
struggling to achieve something,maybe it might be packed up in
the way that your values stackwithin.
Wendy (45:22):
Love it. That's great. I mean, there's so many more areas
I wanna go into, like power, forexample. I wanted to talk about
power, personal power. You wannatouch on that just briefly?
Becca (45:33):
Yeah. We wrap that up. Well, yes. Because in Kundalini
yoga, our personal power islocated at the base of our
spine. And that's just not inKundalini yoga, but that's where
I teach from.
So but we can activate thatevery day with our breath and
with, like, taking some a coupledeep breaths and then squeezing
up and in on everything. Butactivating your power once a day
(45:58):
is so incredible for that twothirds of ourselves that is
cosmic. It needs us to be like,yes. We are cosmic. Like, take
some deep breaths.
Your breath defines who you are.Take intentional deep breaths
every day. Your personal powerwhen you're you're talking about
depression, it can beatdepression. It can rise you out
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of the darkest places if youbelieve that it's within you.
And so sometimes we just gottastart working at activating it,
and then it will empower you.
I mean, sometimes you can't justbe like personal power, go. I
mean, it's you know? Like, thatwould be really cool. But if you
do start working with itintentionally, it eventually
(46:42):
will do that.
Wendy (46:43):
Awesome. Yeah. And you also make some correlations with
animals.
Becca (46:46):
Yes. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. The roar.
Wendy (46:49):
Very shamanic.
Becca (46:50):
Yes. Yeah. And And I'll talk about that. I have time.
Roaring is so fun, and it is youknow, I just talked about, like,
taking a big deep breath andthen squeezing up and in on,
like, your lower regions.
That is one way to do it, butroaring is so fun and very
shamanic, and we love it inKundalini yoga because it does.
(47:10):
It activates all your personalpower. And so if you are
embarrassed to roar in front ofpeople, roar in your car because
it is fun, and it does activateyour personal power.
Wendy (47:23):
You know what's fascinating too, just a really
quick little side note here, isthat over the last eight to ten
years or so of doing shamanicwork for clients, the species of
animal that's coming forward forwomen left and right is big cat
medicine.
Becca (47:38):
Really?
Wendy (47:39):
Yeah. That's, like, the main animal that comes forward
to be of service to that thatperson, that woman, to help her
reconnect with her power, tostep into it, to walk through
the world like a jaguar or alion.
Becca (47:52):
That gives me the goosebumps. So It's really cool.
I didn't mean to interrupt you.But it is just like when I was
writing, like, I mean, I wasvery connected to spirit as I
was writing this book, and Iwould meditate I really just try
to get as connected as I couldbe before I wrote. And I got
this download that was like,roar.
Like, this is really and I'mlike, really, I'm thinking I'm
(48:14):
like, do I wanna are peoplegonna laugh at this? Is this
important to write? Well, hereit goes. We're gonna roar. But I
really appreciate you sayingthat because it felt important
to write about.
Wendy (48:26):
I think you're tapping into something there.
Absolutely. That's cool. Verycool. Well, alright.
So as we wrap things up, are youdoing any kind of one on one
work with people?
Becca (48:39):
Right now, I'm mainly just doing conferences,
workshops, things like thatwhere I'm hired in to facilitate
them. So if anyone's listeningand they have interest in that,
I'm down. You can find me atbeccapowers.com, which Wendy
shared before.
Wendy (48:56):
But Yes. Absolutely. And then, of course, there's your
book. Books
Becca (48:59):
Yes. Is you have
Wendy (49:00):
more than one book that I highly encourage people to,
check out. And so, yeah, I'llput I'll put links up in the
show notes for folks. And I justwanna thank you very much for
coming on. This was really fun.
Becca (49:13):
Thank you for having me. It was an awesome conversation.
I love my smiling. You can't seeme guys, but, like, I really
enjoyed the conversation. I havevery cheeky cheeks right now.
Wendy (49:22):
That's cute. Thank you. Lots of great things to
contemplate. If you'd like tolearn more about Becca or get a
copy of her new book, pleasevisit beccapowers.com. Thank you
for listening.
I love hearing from you and soappreciate your feedback. A big
(49:42):
thank you also to Lonnie for hergenerous donation to the
podcast. I was able to upgradesome of my equipment, which
after seven years was startingto fall apart. Okay. That does
it for this episode.
Next time, an absolutelyfascinating conversation about
the impact of social media onour brains. Please don't be
(50:04):
afraid. It's good stuff. Untilnext time.
This is Wendy Halley, and you're listening to Lucid Cafe.
(00:31):
Hello. Hello. Thank you forjoining me for another episode
of Lucid Cafe, a podcastexploring consciousness and
healing and the complexities ofbeing human. And oh my,
complexities abound.
We've got some clown car actiongoing on here in the U.S., which
(00:55):
is unsettling in a variety ofdisturbing ways. I mean, if
someone wrote what's unfoldingas a novel, I don't think any
publisher would publish itbecause it would be deemed too
far fetched and the characterstoo one dimensional, Unless the
author wrote it to be ironic. Soour charge is to find ways to be
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okay. So, are you doing okay?Are you taking care of yourself
in the best possible way?
I'll just add that I can'trecommend cacao enough. If you
can get yourself some pure cacaoand have a little personal
ceremony or invite some friendsto join you, it truly is like
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drinking a cup of chocolate lovethat leaves you feeling like
everything's gonna be okay. Ihave some here at the wellness
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some. Just reach out so we canfind a time for you to stop in.
Alright, let's get to today'sepisode.
Have you ever wanted to createchange or unapologetically chase
(02:07):
your dreams, yet for some reasonyou stop before you ever get
started? Do you ever feelstretched in so many different
directions that it feels likeyou've lost your creative spark?
My guest, Becca Powers, wants toempower you to unleash your
potential and become everythingyou were meant to be. In this
(02:27):
episode, we discuss her newbook, A Return to Radiance, The
Power Method to Ignite Your Souland Unleash Your Potential, and
the creative ways she'sdeveloped to help people get
unstuck. That's some bad grammarright there.
Oof. Becca has been referred toas the female Tony Robbins and
(02:48):
is a renowned keynote speakerand the visionary founder of
Power's Peak Potential, aleading keynote and training
company specializing in mindsetmastery for high performers.
From her humble beginnings as aminimum wage dollar store
employee to an award winningtwenty year career as a Fortune
(03:09):
five hundred sales executive,Becca has perfected her
expertise in empowering seniorleaders and high performance
teams to unlock their fullpotential through her
proprietary methodology, thePower Method. Please enjoy my
lively conversation with BeccaPowers. Becca, thank you so much
(03:31):
for joining me.
Becca (03:32):
Happy to be here, Wendy. I can't wait to dive in. I
listened to a couple episodestoo, so I'm like, this is gonna
be a good conversation.
Wendy (03:39):
Oh, great. Well, thank you for listening. Thank you so
much. So you have a new bookout. It's called A Return to
Radiance (03:46):
The Power Method to Ignite Your Soul and Unleash
Your Potential.
That's like big stuff.
Becca (03:53):
Yes. It is big stuff. Uh-huh.
Wendy (03:56):
So Becca doesn't screw around, everybody.
Becca (03:59):
Go in. Like, my my maiden name is, like, my and it's my
author name too. His last nameis Powers, so I just go straight
in.
Wendy (04:05):
Yep. Why screw around, really?
Becca (04:08):
That's right.
Wendy (04:08):
Yeah. I'd love to just start with the word radiance
because it's not a word we use alot. No. What's your definition
of radiance with respect to yourbook?
Becca (04:20):
So radiance for me is well, I'll I'll define it first
and then I'll kinda share whatreally drew me to write about it
is in my perception of radiance,I I believe it's three parts.
It's one part our humanness.It's you as Wendy. It's me as
Becca, my personality, yourpersonality. It's one part our
soul, and it's one part infiniteintelligence.
(04:43):
So when I think about it thatway, I like to say our radiance
is two thirds cosmic. Right? Andthen one third human. And so the
thing that got me to write aboutradiance is I'm a Kundalini yoga
teacher, and when we'repracticing Kundalini yoga and
especially as I went through thethe trainings and I'm a level
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two, so I've done a lot of work,the ending expression so there's
10 bodies in Kundalini yoga, andit's similar to, like, seven to
eight chakras, right, in in thechakra system, so they have 10
bodies. The final body is theradiant body, and that would be
if you were comparing it to,like, Maslow's hierarchy of
needs, it would be selfactualization.
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And I just always thought it wassuch a beautiful expression as,
like, our radiant self is thefinal expression that we can get
to in this human experience. Andit's just something that I
always thought was beautiful.And then when after I had gone
through my own series ofexperiences, I was like, it's a
return to radiance because weare already that final
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expression. We're born thatfinal expression. We become
disconnected, and we just needto return to it.
So that's where kinda, like, thepremise came from.
Wendy (05:57):
Okay. Yeah. Some stuff does get in the way, doesn't it?
Becca (06:00):
It does. Life lives. Yeah.
Wendy (06:03):
Yeah. And that's really what your book is about is to
try to get the shit out of theway so that your radiance can
come forward.
Becca (06:10):
Yes.
Wendy (06:10):
And express itself. Yeah. So you talk about unpotential.
Becca (06:17):
Mhmm.
Wendy (06:18):
What made you come up with that term to describe?
Becca (06:21):
Unpotential. Well well, I start the book off in our in
burnout, in our traumaresponses, and stuff like that.
And and I'm always big on tryingto give easy language to
complicated things. And eventhough words like burnout and
trauma are used all the time,when I was doing all my research
(06:45):
and, again, on on the on thefull expression side, we're
talking about your fullpotential, your true potential,
your true self, your radiance,and all this stuff. But then
when we get stuck in the, we'retalking about trauma and burnout
and all these different things.
I'm like, really, it's just ourunpotential. You have your
potential and your unpotential.So I wanted to talk about it in
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a new way so that way, maybe itlands different or inspires
someone who might be kinda numbto some of the common words that
are just being said all thetime.
Wendy (07:19):
So do you mean it as if someone is expressing their
unpotential or it's to try
Becca (07:23):
to
Wendy (07:23):
avoid expressing their unpotential?
Becca (07:26):
Well, I think maybe a little bit of both. I think that
we are made up of ourunpotential and our potential,
but I feel like we can get stuckin our unpotential even in the
best efforts of chasing bills,responsibilities, caretaking,
whether it's children or parentsor family members. I I was
joking around earlier. I waslike, life lives, but life does
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life. And we have to respond toit, but when we don't respond to
it intentionally or with highamounts of self care, and that
means different things, we canget stuck in our own potential
most of the time on accident.
Wendy (08:03):
Well yeah. No. I don't think anybody would
intentionally
Becca (08:06):
Yeah.
Wendy (08:06):
Strive to live their unpotential. Yeah. Yeah. I'm
gonna be the opposite of what Iwould really like to be and what
my gifts are. Yeah.
Yeah. But we do it. Right? Imean, it's not a conscious
thing. It's complicated.
Becca (08:20):
It is complicated. And that's why I say accidental
because, yeah, nobody means todo it, but we are are creatures
of being hard on ourselves. Sowhen I'm having these
conversations and people arelike, oh my god. I am in my
unpotential. How could I letthis happen?
Blah blah blah. My response isyou were just human. Right?
Like, you didn't intentionallybring yourself here. Just
Wendy (08:42):
Yeah. Just human. So I'm curious if you don't mind
talking about how you came towrite this book. I suspect that
your Kundalini practicecontributed quite a bit based on
how you've written the book.
Becca (09:01):
Sure.
Wendy (09:02):
Did you have a spontaneous Kundalini opening,
or did you work towards
Becca (09:08):
All all of it. I have a mess, and then I have the the
healing and the enlightenment. Imean, you're not never in a
fully enlightened state, butwhen you're meditating when
you're doing, like,transcendental meditations for
hours, you have some prettycosmic experiences. So
definitely have some downloadsfrom from that side of things.
But what really happened is acouple different things.
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My quick personal story is I hada really awesome and unique
childhood. When I was born, itwas the late seventies, and my
parents were musicians. They hada cover band. And I got to the
first seven, eight years oflife, I I got to grow up
watching what I'm referring toas radiance. My parents were in
their gifts, their talents, andtheir strengths.
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They embodied them. They hadgigs. They were out doing
things. They had people over whowere doing the same thing. So I
had guitars and bongos andbonfires and all this stuff.
But what I witnessed were peoplebeing their true selves. What I
witnessed was people being in anexpression of joy and glee and
witnessing their potentialunfold. Right? And as I got
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older, my parents were so alivein this that as they had to
start chasing they had me, mybrother and I, and they had to
start chasing bills,responsibilities, caretaking,
all the things.
Wendy (10:31):
Survival dance.
Becca (10:32):
Yeah. They stopped doing their gigs. They stopped playing
music, and I saw them. It wasvery painful to watch somebody
who was once so alive shrinkdown. And my parents, both my
parents passed away very early.
If I was to say it was probablydepression related. My mom
passed away at 46, the age of46, and my dad passed away at
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the age of 62. So by the time Iwas 35, I had lost both my
parents. At that same timearound my 35 year mark, I'm 45
years now, so that's this isgoing back ten years ago, I was
doing the same freaking thing. Iwas, you know, working
Wendy (11:16):
As them, you mean?
Becca (11:16):
Yeah. I was I was that pattern, that generational
pattern was replaying itself. Ihave four kids. I had four kids
around the middle school agegroup. I was a senior leader in
organization.
So I had a team. I was grievingmy dad. So I had lots of
responsibilities, lots of thingsgoing on, and my radiance was
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dimming. And I felt burnoutcoming on, and I was faced with
extreme burnout. I I'm a I'mvery resilient, and it's a
strength and a weakness of mine,but I powered through everything
until one night I hit thebathroom floor.
And I was so emotionallyexhausted that I collapsed one
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night with after I put the kidsto bed. And in that moment of
what I would people from theoutside would see me as a
powerhouse on the inside, I feltthe most powerless I ever had,
and I was laying there on thebathroom floor. I didn't have
energy to call out to my husbandfor help. I didn't have energy
to to stand up, so I juststarted crying. And in, like, my
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most broken state, I called outto, you know, god, universe.
I need help. I can't do tomorrowthe same way I'm doing today,
and I only know how to dotomorrow the same way I'm doing
today. There is just a realdesperation for for help. And I
I got what I call my instantmiracle. Something shifted on
the inside.
I felt a voice or heard a voicefrom within said, Becca, you're
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the CEO of your life. And as I'mlaying there, I'm like, if if
I'm the CEO of my life, then Ihave a lot more power in this
than I think I do. And I hadjust started I might have been a
year into my Kundalini teachertrainings, and, like, it all
started clicking together. And Irose up off the bathroom floor,
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a different woman than the onethat went down, and I vowed that
I would never hit it again. Andif I stayed true to my vow, then
I would help other people nothit the bathroom floor.
And so this is kind of where allthe inspiration was. It was a
little bit of my childhood andthen going through extreme loss.
It was watching myself gothrough this and the pain I
caused myself, the pain I causedmy family, and then the joy and
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the beauty that I saw when I didreturn to my radiance. And I was
like, wow. I think if my parentswould had a road map like this,
they might still be alive.
And so I got very dedicated tobuilding the formula and writing
the book and all of that.
Wendy (13:46):
It's a powerful story. And, I mean, you describe, like,
a shamanic death and rebirthexperience in on your bathroom
floor. I mean, it's it's,
Becca (13:56):
Yeah. I get the goosebumps as you say that. It
was very visceral. I Oh, yeah. Iremember everything.
Yeah.
Wendy (14:02):
It leaves a mark, right, on your psyche. Yeah. Uh-huh.
Because, yeah, the person youwere has to die in order to
allow your truth to comethrough. And that's a really
it's a very difficult process togo through, and it's something
that I think we all go throughdifferent versions of it or
we're invited to.
And sometimes we don't takeourselves up on it, and life
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becomes really challenging rightafter you get that call and you
don't take yourself up on it. Sogood for you for well, I mean,
it also sounds like you were insuch a desperate place that it
was, like, maybe you felt likeyou had no option.
Becca (14:38):
Yeah. I was like I was just like, okay. I have to let
go of my inner control freak. Idon't got this. I don't got it.
Wendy (14:45):
Yeah. You have your specific circumstances of your
life, but I don't think it'sthat uncommon. I mean, I imagine
the three people that listen tothe podcast that that it's it's
very relatable. It's superrelatable. For anybody who's
listening, who's feeling, like,trapped, trapped in their
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circumstances, trapped in a lifethat's not really serving them
or working for them, if whatyou're offering is a little
lifeline.
Becca (15:16):
Yes.
Wendy (15:17):
And in the book, you talk about the power method. The word
power, of course, it's your lastname,
Becca (15:23):
and Mhmm.
Wendy (15:24):
It's the method you created.
Becca (15:26):
Yeah.
Wendy (15:27):
So can you talk a little bit about the power method?
Becca (15:30):
I would love to. So I there's five pillars to it. The
first letter is the p, andthat's protect your potential.
And I wanted to really make itabout the potential, and I go
straight into it starts straightinto, like, trauma and trauma
responses and burnout and allthis stuff. We it starts in the
ick.
Right? But it should. And whatI've realized over the years as
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I've healed myself and been apart of other people finding
their path and their healing andand their growth, what I've
noticed is that we weren't we,and I'm saying that generally
speaking, we're not given thetools to be aligned to our
potential. We're just go, andthere are things you need to do
to protect your potential toreally stay in your radiance
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because if you don't, like, youyou're gonna end up on the
bathroom floor. Or I was just,sharing this story with someone
else, and she's like, I wasn'ton the bathroom floor, but I had
to pull over the side of theroad in my car.
I had a car moment. You had abathroom floor moment, but I had
a car moment. So I do thinkeverybody relates to to this
breaking down piece. And andprotect your potential in pillar
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one, I give tools to help yousustain, to help protect your
potential, and to stay off thebathroom floor. And then when we
come come out of that phase oflearning how to protect your
potential, then it's aboutowning your opportunities.
And when I say that is that'svery part two is very much or
pillar two is very much amindset section where you're
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pulling yourself out of victimto victor. You're changing what
the meaning that you've assignedto things, including yourself.
You're discovering what yourvalues are and how you can align
them to help you succeed or tolive a more aligned life to your
truth. And so once we getthrough that, then we're going
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into the w, which is awaken yourworthiness. And I left that for
the middle pillar because Ireally think that we gotta kinda
get separated from the ick toget back to, like, oh, okay.
I got a little bit of thatcleared away. I'm feeling good
again, and now I can awaken myworthiness. I and I believe that
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we're born inherently worthy ofhaving great health, having
wealth, having healthyrelationships, doing work even
if it's whether it's a career oryou're an entrepreneur. But I
believe that we were givengifts, talents, and strengths to
work, to express ourselves inthrough create whatever creative
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expression that may be and thatwe don't have to try so hard to
do things. Like, we are alreadyinherently there.
So it's about, like, tappingback into that worth. And so
that's what I focus on in thethird pillar. The fourth one is
elevate your energy To be in atyour peak potential or to be in
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the truth of who you arerequires energy. I mean, we have
to get that inner system going,and so that's the the breath
work, the meditation, themantra. It's the work.
He is the work. Elevate yourenergy. And then r is the
really, it's rock your radiance,but that is the reward. When you
are in your radiance, you areable your character is strong.
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You start making a difference bywho you are rather than what
you're doing.
Right? And you're you're makingchange because you're showing up
as a change. And so that's thebest way to explain it simply.
Wendy (19:04):
Okay. Yeah. There's a lot there. Right? There's so much
I'm guessing that it wasn't aslinear a process for you like
you did No.
Ago. I don't know if it is foranybody, but you're trying to
help give some it almost seemslike a preventative. You've
written this book so that peopledon't have to end up on the
bathroom floor.
Becca (19:25):
That would be ideal. That's where I was coming from
energetically when
Wendy (19:28):
I wrote the book. Yeah. Right. Okay. So do you think
that even people who are borninto the most dire circumstances
that even they can rise abovehorrendous circumstances in
order to become what you'redescribing?
Becca (19:47):
I do. Because I think that I I've worked with all
different types of people frompoverty up into great wealth,
and I think that there's adifferent struggle in each stage
of life. Right? Where sometimesthe the people that I might meet
more in poverty are more in tuneto happiness and joy, but
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haven't figured out how togenerate the wealth. And I've
also met extremely wealthypeople who they don't even they
can't even tap into joy.
Happy They're miserable. Yeah.Yeah. And How sad. So I feel
that all circumstances are kindaunique to each person, and
that's how I try to approach itfrom the book is like, hey.
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You're you. I'm me. You're you,and you're the only one that
actually knows what you're trulycapable of. And so I tried to
approach a return to Radiance,meeting people where they are
regardless where they are onthat spectrum.
Wendy (20:47):
Yeah. It's so tough, at least from where I sit, to my
shamanic teacher, Hank, used totalk about the difference
between doing the survival danceand the sacred dance. It's a
different of what you're talkingabout. I mean, our culture,
western culture is set up in acapitalist way. So Yeah.
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We have to figure out what oursurvival dance is. But wouldn't
it be glorious if we could findwhat our sacred dance is and
then have it blend with oursurvival dance so that you can
do both.
Becca (21:22):
That's really yes. I'm so in alignment with that. I'm
like, air five. Yes. Because Ithink it's the and.
You know, when your survival'squestioned, it's really
sometimes hard to get to thatesoteric cosmic part of
ourselves. But it is the danceof the end. We're sacred and we
have to survive. Like, that'swhy I say our radiance is three
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parts, and and we're human andwe have to honor that human
part. But it's kind of cool tothink that two thirds of us is
cosmic because there's aninfinite source or infinite
intelligence out there that iscapable of serving us in this
journey so we don't have to beso human and stuck in it.
And that's kind of my invitationis the sake I love that you said
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that it's the survival, but withthe sacred. Like, we can do
both.
Wendy (22:09):
Yeah. It's recommended. I mean, to to pursue it, but I
think we can get so stuck in thesurvival dance that we don't
Becca (22:15):
For sure.
Wendy (22:16):
Have the energy or the drive, but you give so many
great tips to help people kindof get out of that. So I I wanna
touch on some of the points as Iwas reading your book that
really stood out to me asimportant things just to chat
about. Like, what do you thinkhappens to the dreams and the
possibilities we have when we'rechildren?
Becca (22:37):
Right.
Wendy (22:38):
Because they don't stay in the foreground. Right? So
what do you think happens tothem?
Becca (22:42):
You know, I I I used to play soccer, so I always say,
like, I'm like, they went to thebench. I had, like, they didn't
even go to the bench. They wentto the locker room, and we
forgot that they're there.
Wendy (22:50):
They're sitting at the bus!
Becca (22:52):
Yeah. They're still they're still there. But it's
it's true. I think you hadbrought up a point that from a
societal standpoint, we're veryprogrammed to survive.
And not only that, but we'reprogrammed to like, that's what
happy should be. It should bethe job, the house, the car, the
this, the that.
Wendy (23:09):
Right.
Becca (23:10):
And as long as we're doing that, then we've made it,
and we should be happy. Butguess what? When our dreams and
and and goals are left in thelocker room, there's an
emptiness that we feel. And whatI've learned is just simply the
invitation of inviting them backto the game, just using the
soccer analogy, at least getthem back to the sideline. We
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start to feel more whole.
And not only that, they're animportant part of our expression
when I'm talking about radiance.And I'll just use my, like,
myself as an example. When I wasa little kid, since you talk
mentioned about the kids, I'mlike, I have a story in there
that says the Care Bear goesthere. But when I was, like,
five years old, I was setting upmy Care Bears and whatever dolls
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and stuffed animals I had. II've always been a writer,
journaler, song lyrics, poems,whatever.
And whatever I wrote, I wouldset them up and I would I would
read to them what I wrote orspeak to them about whatever I
was developing. And that was avery like, it gave me energy. It
was exciting. It was fun, and itwas like a game I played with
them. And then I got older, andI told you, like, all the things
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that happened to me in 35.
I'm like, I I don't even by thetime I was 35, I can't even tell
you the last time I I wrote.Right? And part of my healing
journey when I got off thebathroom floor was I just
started journaling like crazy.And then as I started
journaling, I started to feelmore whole again. So it's like
and again, inviting those dreamsfrom the locker room back to the
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sideline.
I was kinda, like, dabbling withthem again. And then next thing
you know, I'm writing a book.And then now I have my second
book. And it's just one of thosethings if you're listening to
this, that that silly thing thatyou did when you were five or
six might actually be the thingthat lights you up inside and
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brings you life force. And itdoesn't mean I mean, I'm very
much a go getter.
It's my personality type. I'mvery a type. So when I was
writing, I'm like, oh, let me gopublish a book. Started climbing
climbing that, but that'sbecause it's fun to me, but not
because I don't have an outcomethat I would I enjoy being a New
York Times best selling author?Of course.
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But I am not writing to becomeone, if that makes sense. I'm
writing right for the joy of it.
Wendy (25:27):
Right. So I think you're hitting on such a key point is
that there are clues in ourchildhood.
Becca (25:33):
Yeah. Oh, I get the goosebumps as you say that. Yes.
Keep going.
Wendy (25:37):
Yeah. If we can hearken back to what made us excited
when we were really little,we're probably gonna get close
to what it is, what ourradiance, how it wants to
express itself.
Becca (25:50):
Yes. And I love that's how you said it too because it
it is like a life force. Itwants to express through us.
Wendy (25:56):
Yeah. I think back to when I was really little. Yeah.
What a little hammy kid I was.Right?
And, yeah, just a smartass evenback back
Becca (26:10):
then. It's funny.
Wendy (26:11):
Yes. Can you make a living being a smartass, do you
think?
Becca (26:15):
I think comedians do.
Wendy (26:16):
Yeah. That's true. That's true. Actually, yeah, that's
true. But, yeah, if you can tapinto that, then that's a lot of
the heavy lifting.
Right? Because It is. You're soopen when you're little because
your logical mind hasn't comeonline yet, and all the abstract
thought hasn't come online yet.So you're more pure, and you're
Yes. You're more in touch withthat immortal part of yourself
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that has all the the wisdom andthe the blueprint for your life,
the potential blueprint, Ithink.
Anyway, that's just you don'thave to buy into that idea. But
also I'm saying is that theinformation is there and just
the things that excite you.Right? The things that bring you
joy or just the thought of themgive you that little thrill
inside.
Becca (26:57):
I love that so much because I think as adults too,
and the reason I said that I'mnot writing for the result, I'm
writing because of the joy andthat I enjoy putting frameworks
together. I enjoy figuring outhow I did things and how my
clients did things and put themin an order to help, you know,
someone else in a book. But youdon't have to have an outcome
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like that. I have had, I'veworked with a woman who was a
competitive dancer as a kid andin her thirties. She had no
hobbies, no passions.
She's just work, work, work,work, work. And I had asked her,
I said, well, what did you usedto do as a kid? What did you
love? And she said, I used tocompetitive dance. I was like,
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can you do that?
Like, can you by the time wemeet again, can you just go to,
like, Fred Astaire or something?I don't know. Like, find a dance
place. And she's like, well, I'mtoo old to competitive dance.
And I'm like That's sad.
And so this is how the dreamstart dying. And I was like,
you're never too old to dance.Maybe you don't have to be an
Olympic dancer, but you canthere's little local
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competitions. You don't have tobe a star. You just need to go
do it for the joy of it.
Wendy (28:10):
Or maybe it's just dancing. Right? It's
Becca (28:13):
just It's just dancing. Competitive. Yeah. Yeah. Just
I'm like, just go do it.
And she did get into dancingand, like, local competitions
and stuff. But what reallyhappened is her health
increased. Her income increased.She brought joy back. She was
collaborating with other dancerswho were just like she's like,
oh my gosh.
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She's like, just being in theroom and seeing everybody dance
and the music and the energy.You could see her when I was on
the video calls with her justlight up the fact that she was
dancing again. And so that's myinvitation to the listeners is
that it doesn't have to have, ashiny prize at the end of it.
The prize is your joy.
Wendy (28:53):
The experience of it.
Becca (28:55):
The experience of it. Yeah.
Wendy (28:56):
And the impact that experience has on you.
Obviously, you're saying itchanges you, and it changes how
you're presenting yourself andhow people are perceiving you.
And how is that a bad thing.Right. Unless you're a complete
asshole.
And then it yeah. That'sdifferent. Yeah. But, yeah,
we're hoping that that thatwouldn't be your truth is that
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my truth is I'm an asshole. So,therefore, I'm going to that's
my radiance.
But that's never come up in aninterview before.
Becca (29:30):
Yeah. I haven't seen that yet.
Wendy (29:31):
My radiance is asshole ish? Everyone, you can ignore
that. Okay. So
Becca (29:39):
It's funny.
Wendy (29:41):
One of the other things, the topics that you touch on I
mean, you touch on so many. Iwas, like, just trying to write
down the ones that I thoughtwould be really good fodder. So
selfishness.
Becca (29:54):
Mhmm.
Wendy (29:55):
I think selfishness gets a bad rap, and you address that
in your book. So I do. Can youspeak to that?
Becca (30:03):
I would love to because I think I think a lot of people
who have the leader, highperformer, spiritual anything,
if you're a spiritualentrepreneur or practitioner, we
there's a level of servitude towhy we're doing the things that
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we're doing. We're trying toserve other people. And in that,
when you're showing up for otherpeople, you typically tend to
give. And that givingpersonality tells you that self
first is not a good thing, andthat goes to what you're saying.
It's it's selfish to putyourself first when you know
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that you're here for a reason.
You're here for most of thesepeople have purpose, missions.
Like, they know that they'rehere for big impact. So, again,
it's kind of like life is awhole bunch of, like, duality
and dichotomies that you haveto, like, figure out, and it's
so weird. But this is, like, oneof them where, actually, it's
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not selfish. It's self firstwhen you are able to prioritize
yourself, and that means sayingyes to yourself and potentially
no to other people and projectsso that you can say yes to
yourself first, you get morespace you within.
You get more energy and you getmore time. And when you have
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more space and you have moreenergy and you have more time,
guess what? You show up to serveso much better. So I always say,
I'm like, it's not selfish. It'sself first, and you just gotta
be okay with it.
You know?
Wendy (31:40):
Right. Yeah. Culturally, again, this is a a common
Becca (31:46):
Yes.
Wendy (31:47):
A common issue with women.
Becca (31:49):
For sure.
Wendy (31:50):
Being the nurturers, we have to take care of everyone
else. Right? So that message isdrilled in unconsciously. I
think it's generational. And sothe idea of putting myself
first, it just it can rub us thewrong way.
And if you're gonna say thattaking care of the self is not
warranted, that I don't havepermission to do that because
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it's selfish, then you'd have tosay, well, then because to me
selfishness is there's amalicious intent. Like, you're
trying to take advantage ofsomeone else for your own
benefit. And if you can answerthat question, like, am I trying
to harm someone by taking aminute for myself or doing some
(32:34):
self care stuff or pursuing mydreams? Is that really
Becca (32:39):
Hurting someone?
Wendy (32:40):
Is that hurting someone? Actually, it's probably gonna
have the opposite effect.
Becca (32:45):
That's a really good reframe, Wendy. I like that you
shared that a lot.
Wendy (32:49):
Thanks. I'm glad it's I'm glad it's Yeah.
Becca (32:51):
No. I'm like, that's that was awesome.
Wendy (32:55):
So, yeah, self first. It's okay to put yourself first.
Becca (32:58):
And for any of the listeners, especially for the
women listeners, I just wannadouble click into something that
Wendy was talking about. Thisconcept was very hard for me
too. I have to I'm a mom offour. I'm a leader of a team, so
I've got, like, I'm basicallylike a team mom. I've got six to
eight people reporting to me.
And so I was at the bottom ofthe priority list when
Wendy (33:17):
I hit the bathroom floor.
Becca (33:19):
But when I was in my most powerless moment, and I can
still tear up thinking aboutthis, as I'm thinking about I
have thoughts racing a millionmiles a minute. And I'm like,
you know what's selfish is thatI didn't put myself first
because I'm almost I almost gothospitalized. And then I ended
up I pushed myself. I was soselfless that I ended up with
(33:44):
autoimmune disease, and it tookme two to three years to really
heal. There was days I couldn'tget out of bed, and all I kept
thinking about during my healingjourney was how selfish it was
of me not to prioritize myselfbecause now who's suffering?
My family. I'm having to havepeople help take care of me. I'm
having to take days off workbecause I wasn't willing to say
(34:06):
yes to myself. That's prettyselfish. You know?
So it's just a mind flip on it.
Wendy (34:12):
But Yeah. Unintentionally. Yes. Of course.
But that's a great example.
And I think it's a really commonone too. Yeah. Mhmm. I think
about the mostly women who cometo, my wellness center and the
struggles they have with theirhealth and how this is part of
it, I think. Yes.
(34:33):
For a lot of us. Yeah. I mean,sometimes there's others
factors, but but just it's likethis long standing over time
building trajectory towards poorhealth because if you think
about it, a a lack of attendingto the self. Mhmm. Not in every
instance, but it's certainlythere's a common thread there.
(34:57):
Okay. So another really powerfulconcept you talk about is
meaning making. Oh, yeah. If Ithink about it, actually, a lot
of the concepts in your book, itdoes remind me of you being a
CEO of your own life becauseit's kind of like, what is my
mission statement as a humanbeing? How many of us think
(35:19):
about that?
A lot of people ask thequestion, why am I here? What's
my purpose? That does seem likea sad question that a lot of us
ask Mhmm. That we don't know,that we feel so disconnected
that we can't even answer thatquestion. But there is a
purpose.
It may not be grandiose, butthere is some reason why you're
(35:41):
here. So how do you talk aboutmeaning making with folks?
Becca (35:46):
So when I was going through my own healing and then
I did a bunch of certificationstoo in shadow I did a
certification in limitingbeliefs and shadow beliefs. It
really made me look at meaning adifferent way and made me
reflect on some of the thingsthat I had been through and some
of the mental shifts I made. ButI didn't really know what I was
(36:06):
doing, but I was like, oh,that's what I did. Is that
meaning gives an emotionalvibration. And when our meaning
has pain attached to it, to anevent or to a person, we
actually reinforce, like, a alower vibration.
And we I mean, this is kindalike law of attraction stuff,
(36:28):
but p I don't know if peoplethink about it in relationship
to meaning and how that couldkeep us into, like, a lower
vibrational stance. So you couldeven be doing all the law of
attraction stuff, but still notgetting results.
Wendy (36:40):
That's a great point.
Becca (36:41):
It might be because of what's going on around how
you're associating with things.And so when I really started
thinking about that, I was like,hey. Let's change the
conversation. When I can when Iwas going through my health
issues I'll just use it as anexample because I think a story
sometimes can help conversationslike this be easier to
understand. But think aboutthat.
(37:03):
I was I had connective tissueautoimmune disease, which is now
in remission, but it meant that,like, my joints and my bones
ached from the inside. Andthere's days I couldn't get out
of bed. And I could have sat inbed and felt sorry for myself. I
really could have.
Wendy (37:22):
And It's an option.
Becca (37:23):
Yeah. It's an option, and I did do it a couple days and
maybe a couple weeks. But atsome point, I got over myself.
Right? And I'm like, listen.
Like, I'm still alive. I stillget to choose to put my feet on
the floor even if it freakinghurts. I can still and I get
emotional thinking about itbecause it's like, when I chose
to live healthy in my mind, notlike and, yes, I had to do all
(37:47):
the things. I had to starteating better and moving my body
differently and stuff. But Ichose.
I'm like, I get to do this. I'mnot dead. You know? I get to put
my feet on the floor. I get tochoose to go move my body.
I get to choose to go cut thevegetables that I don't want to
eat. But guess what? I get tochoose that. And the more that I
started feeling empowered by mychoices, my meaning around like,
(38:10):
I felt very victimized. My dadhad died.
I'd hit that bathroom floor. Iknew I was going in a different
trajectory, but I still had togo through that that middle part
of some days really sucked andsome days were great. And the
more I shifted into I and I getto do this mindset, like,
(38:31):
miracles started happening.Like, the struggle stops being
so struggled. And that's reallywhat my invitation is.
Like, what meaning are youassigning things to? Like, did
did your mom yell at you whenyou were little and that made
you feel like a bad girl? And soare you still carrying bad girl
energy with you, which is verycommon for women. So that might
(38:53):
be, again, a spot, an invitationwhere you can choose like,
that's an old pattern. Thatdoesn't serve me every time.
I don't do things. I don't takerisk because I don't wanna get
in trouble. Well, does thatreally serve you at 42 years
old? I don't know. I'm justmaking up a number.
But that's what I mean by, like,I I really take meaning and I
wanna drill into it because Ithink if it's an opportunity for
(39:17):
us to live a much more healthierand radiant life if we can
purposely choose to change themeaning we've assigned to
things.
Wendy (39:26):
Very powerful concept, and it makes me wonder how many
folks with depression, if that'spart of their depression, the
onset of it is a lack of meaningin life. I remember reading that
people who have a terminaldiagnosis, if they have meaning,
(39:49):
if they have a goal or somethingthat they're striving for, they
live so much longer becausethey're striving for something.
They have that meaning, thatpurpose.
Becca (39:58):
Mhmm.
Wendy (39:59):
As opposed to people who just sort of surrender and give
up. I think it depends on,again, on the diagnosis and the
circumstances and everything.
Becca (40:08):
Sure.
Wendy (40:09):
And, yeah, you think about an absence of I don't have
meaning in my life, Then whywould you wanna get up in the
morning? Right. The point. Doyou think it is difficult to
find meaning? It's kind of likethe dreams we had when we were
children.
(40:29):
You can recollect them becausethere were moments of joy in
your life. But do you think thatmeaning is tucked away
somewhere?
Becca (40:37):
I I do think it's tucked in, and I think it's I think
it's in there always wanting tobe expressed. And what I mean by
that is as adult and it goesback to some of the societal
conditioning that we've beentalking about. I think that
we're taught that meaning shouldbe an outcome. Like, oh, this
(40:57):
award or this certificate orthis much in my bank account.
Wendy (41:01):
That's a good point. Okay.
Becca (41:02):
It's not meaning. Like, when I
Wendy (41:05):
That's a goal.
Becca (41:06):
Yeah. Right? And so when I was sick it's not the one gift
within sickness is it shiftsyour perspective, especially
when you get healthy again. Andso what I find is that there's
so our meaning comes in ourrelationships. Once I was able
to heal myself from the insideout, I started having very deep
(41:29):
and meaningful like, not evenconversations, but connections
with my kids, my husband, andtalk about meaning.
Then I was finding meaning. I'mlike, oh my gosh. Like, I have
meaning as a wife. I havemeaning as a mom. Not only do I
have meaning, but, like, I'menjoying this depth.
I'm getting to know people. So,like, there's this level of I'm
(41:51):
getting fulfilled with meaningby exploring my curiosity and
seeing where it's going andseeing what's what's possible.
There is meaning in who you are.When you get more in touch as
I've been talking about thisradiance and as Wendy's been
saying, like, going back intothe joy of even things from
childhood, as those things comeup, you start realizing that
(42:16):
your character is stronger thanit is. You start realizing, holy
crap.
I overcame this, this, this, andthis. Like, I didn't realize how
powerful I was. And then all ofa sudden talk about purpose.
People try to find theirpurpose, and they think it's a
job. Your purpose is oftenexpressed through who you are
(42:37):
rather than what you do.
And what I mean by that is we'rehaving this awesome conversation
about meaning. Like, I foundmeaning in helping other people
find their potential. Right? Andso as someone might go through
some of my work and get re intouch with that, I I got a
message today as a matter offact of, like, Becca, this book
(42:58):
has already, like, changed mylife. It's so good.
I ordered a copy from for agirlfriend who's really
struggling. And I think that'smeaning. I think that's purpose.
Absolutely. And so those thingsstart happening as a reflection
of who you are rather than whatyou're doing, and life gets to
feel more satisfying.
Wendy (43:18):
Okay. Before we wrap up, I have another question I wanna
ask. Sure. Do you have anyadvice for people who are
pursuing their dreams but aren'tseeing success?
Becca (43:30):
Keep going. And and alignment. I'm gonna talk about
values
Wendy (43:35):
really fast
Becca (43:36):
because I'll make it a quick story. But oftentimes,
when people are striving forsuccess success are are their
goals, like, it's the goal thatis the objective and not the
experience. And so I often say,like, focus more on I'm I'm a
big goal setter. I love superbig dreamy goals. I talk about
them in the book, but theoutcome should be a result of
(43:59):
how all that alignment ishappening within you.
It's an inside out game. And forsomeone who's striving but not
seeing results, I typically findthat it's an alignment issue
with meaning that we've alreadytalked about that, so I'm gonna
skip that. But values is anotherbig one, and I'm gonna give you
an example. My number one valuestill to this day is meaningful
work. Doctor.
(44:21):
Right? The thing is most of usdon't know what our values are,
and so I invite you to do, like,a values assessment. I have one
in my book. But when I found outthat my number one value was
meaningful work, I was notsurprised that I hit the
bathroom floor because I valuedit over myself.
Wendy (44:40):
Oh, good point. Okay.
Becca (44:42):
Mhmm. And so I would have never I had financial goals. I
had other things, but I valuedmeaningful work over myself. And
so I took myself out of my owngame. So I wouldn't I wasn't
able to hit some of themilestones that I had for myself
at that point in my life becausevalues have a light side and
(45:03):
they have a shadow side.
And, unfortunately, the shadowside of my relationship to my
values was winning the game. Andso that's just might be some
food for thought for somelisteners as you like, if you're
struggling to achieve something,maybe it might be packed up in
the way that your values stackwithin.
Wendy (45:22):
Love it. That's great. I mean, there's so many more areas
I wanna go into, like power, forexample. I wanted to talk about
power, personal power. You wannatouch on that just briefly?
Becca (45:33):
Yeah. We wrap that up. Well, yes. Because in Kundalini
yoga, our personal power islocated at the base of our
spine. And that's just not inKundalini yoga, but that's where
I teach from.
So but we can activate thatevery day with our breath and
with, like, taking some a coupledeep breaths and then squeezing
up and in on everything. Butactivating your power once a day
(45:58):
is so incredible for that twothirds of ourselves that is
cosmic. It needs us to be like,yes. We are cosmic. Like, take
some deep breaths.
Your breath defines who you are.Take intentional deep breaths
every day. Your personal powerwhen you're you're talking about
depression, it can beatdepression. It can rise you out
(46:21):
of the darkest places if youbelieve that it's within you.
And so sometimes we just gottastart working at activating it,
and then it will empower you.
I mean, sometimes you can't justbe like personal power, go. I
mean, it's you know? Like, thatwould be really cool. But if you
do start working with itintentionally, it eventually
(46:42):
will do that.
Wendy (46:43):
Awesome. Yeah. And you also make some correlations with
animals.
Becca (46:46):
Yes. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. The roar.
Wendy (46:49):
Very shamanic.
Becca (46:50):
Yes. Yeah. And And I'll talk about that. I have time.
Roaring is so fun, and it is youknow, I just talked about, like,
taking a big deep breath andthen squeezing up and in on,
like, your lower regions.
That is one way to do it, butroaring is so fun and very
shamanic, and we love it inKundalini yoga because it does.
(47:10):
It activates all your personalpower. And so if you are
embarrassed to roar in front ofpeople, roar in your car because
it is fun, and it does activateyour personal power.
Wendy (47:23):
You know what's fascinating too, just a really
quick little side note here, isthat over the last eight to ten
years or so of doing shamanicwork for clients, the species of
animal that's coming forward forwomen left and right is big cat
medicine.
Becca (47:38):
Really?
Wendy (47:39):
Yeah. That's, like, the main animal that comes forward
to be of service to that thatperson, that woman, to help her
reconnect with her power, tostep into it, to walk through
the world like a jaguar or alion.
Becca (47:52):
That gives me the goosebumps. So It's really cool.
I didn't mean to interrupt you.But it is just like when I was
writing, like, I mean, I wasvery connected to spirit as I
was writing this book, and Iwould meditate I really just try
to get as connected as I couldbe before I wrote. And I got
this download that was like,roar.
Like, this is really and I'mlike, really, I'm thinking I'm
(48:14):
like, do I wanna are peoplegonna laugh at this? Is this
important to write? Well, hereit goes. We're gonna roar. But I
really appreciate you sayingthat because it felt important
to write about.
Wendy (48:26):
I think you're tapping into something there.
Absolutely. That's cool. Verycool. Well, alright.
So as we wrap things up, are youdoing any kind of one on one
work with people?
Becca (48:39):
Right now, I'm mainly just doing conferences,
workshops, things like thatwhere I'm hired in to facilitate
them. So if anyone's listeningand they have interest in that,
I'm down. You can find me atbeccapowers.com, which Wendy
shared before.
Wendy (48:56):
But Yes. Absolutely. And then, of course, there's your
book. Books
Becca (48:59):
Yes. Is you have
Wendy (49:00):
more than one book that I highly encourage people to,
check out. And so, yeah, I'llput I'll put links up in the
show notes for folks. And I justwanna thank you very much for
coming on. This was really fun.
Becca (49:13):
Thank you for having me. It was an awesome conversation.
I love my smiling. You can't seeme guys, but, like, I really
enjoyed the conversation. I havevery cheeky cheeks right now.
Wendy (49:22):
That's cute. Thank you. Lots of great things to
contemplate. If you'd like tolearn more about Becca or get a
copy of her new book, pleasevisit beccapowers.com. Thank you
for listening.
I love hearing from you and soappreciate your feedback. A big
(49:42):
thank you also to Lonnie for hergenerous donation to the
podcast. I was able to upgradesome of my equipment, which
after seven years was startingto fall apart. Okay. That does
it for this episode.
Next time, an absolutelyfascinating conversation about
the impact of social media onour brains. Please don't be
(50:04):
afraid. It's good stuff. Untilnext time.
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