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September 29, 2025 66 mins

Stephanie Chung grew up on an Air Force base with a Master Sergeant father—so structure, discipline, and high standards were her foundation long before she ever stepped into a boardroom. Today, she’s a #1 international best-selling author, executive coach, and the first African American to lead a major private aviation company.

In this powerful episode, we dive into Stephanie’s remarkable career—from checking bags at an airline to completely transforming a private jet company’s brand and sales culture. Her new book, Ally: How to Lead People Who Are Not Like You, gives leaders real-world frameworks to lead with empathy, use privilege as a lever for good, and embrace curiosity over certainty.

We explore what it really means to be a transformational leader in today’s world—especially as business becomes more diverse and emotionally intelligent. Stephanie shares why business acumen is still the most underrated sales skill, how Mary Kay helped shape her as a seller, and what she learned from growing up in a military family that continues to serve her as a leader today.

The episode wraps with a heart-opening story about her work with Make-A-Wish that will stay with you long after you listen.

Are you interested in leveling up your sales skills and staying relevant in today’s AI-driven landscape? Visit www.jbarrows.com and let’s Make It Happen together!

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