Episode 542: Across the Universe

In this episode, the Mullets have their first big disagreement in some time over style versus substance, the angst of the late 1960s and the concept of jukebox musicals. They are on the same page about Bono, though.

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Episode Transcript

(00:03):
Welcome to Arcade Audio. Hello and welcome to this week's

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episode of Married With Movies. I'm one of your hosts, Samantha
Mullet. Sitting next to me on the couch
and stealing my water is the other host of my beautiful
husband, Chris Mullet. There's hardly any water in it.
Yeah, that's why I got my tea. I'm drinking.
I'm drinking tea instead. Lovely.
I'm glad it was tea because I would have just been like oh a
drink and then now I would have noticed like diluted fucking

(01:04):
medieval times Pepsi piss. What are you talking?
About I just said I have a headache, full stop.
That's going to explain the combination of that and today's
movie is going to explain everything I have to say.
And again, I'm in the middle of teaching.

(01:25):
This is rare. We're recording on Thursday,
September 4th and normally. 1995.
Normally Thursdays I'm done withclass.
I have one more day of class. Tomorrow you're still in the.
Labor Day holiday. You're in the thick of.
It all of my words have been stupid sluts lately.
I don't know what the differenceis from your normal, but that's.

(01:46):
Fine, I'm like fusing words you.Do you, babe?
Losing my spot and how I talk. You're just living your life,
man. Yeah.
I mean, if this is what you callliving life, sure, great.
Sign me up if you're new. Here.
I mean, look at you. Your hair's all over the place.

(02:07):
My hair's always all over. The place not like this.
I can't really see so. You have a your camera on your
phone. Yeah, I don't want you to yell
at me for doing something that'snot what's.
Going to stop you. You're normally playing fucking
burger time on your phone. The.
Entire you have burger time. It looks like it looks like
Candy Crush burger time. That's not a.
Game What's the name of the gameyou play all the time?

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No, I don't know. I don't play games.
You don't, you don't know and you don't play games.
Why are you trying to not talk about this movie?
This is going to be, I think, our biggest discrepancy award at
the end of the year. Well, it's the intro #1 so we're
supposed to talk about the fact.I was trying to, but you didn't
want to talk about it. You don't want to be married or

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watch movies or one of those things.
I plead the fifth on Happiness conversation, and the the half
I'm pleading is movies based on today's movie.
No, we're married. We have a lot of movies.
Those two things combine into a weekly exercise in how to keep a
marriage together. Oh boy, that's why you're here.

(03:12):
I'm basically turning this off. I'm basically taking inspiration
from RJ Hates Rappa every singleweek.
Topa used to be like RJ is a computer programmer who's
offered a blue pill and a red pill, and depending on which one
he takes, either is this in the real world or goes back to The
Matrix. That's what I'm doing with
Married to the Movies, but it's just another funny turn of a

(03:33):
phrase about how basically this point after 550 episodes, we
basically can't say anyone another besides the this
podcast. This podcast was supposed to be
the reason that, you know, we stayed together.
Well, it's it's got us this. Far children, our child.
If wait, hold on, it was, I don't remember that that's what

(03:54):
they started this. This is a way to watch all of
our movies. Yeah, yeah.
But we also did it as like a standing like weekly date kind
of thing to help our relationship back when we first
started. Our relationship or the podcast?
Both. Well, because I hate to tell you
this, but we started this podcast after we were already

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married because it's called Married with Movies.
Oh, that's right. Which means that we had been
together six years. Moving on today's movie.
We've been doing this podcast for well over half of our
relationship together. Oh, Chris.

(04:35):
Yeah, just a regular week for US.
Work, work as hard. We had a great weekend.
We had a fun filled weekend of not really doing much of
anything, which was perfect. We had a retro game night in our
loft where we introduced Jillianto the Nintendo Wii and played
Wii Sports. I bowled a 299 in Wii bowling.

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Hey, hey everyone, listen to home.
Guess when I got the 9 the 10th frame the last fall.
Fuck you, Nintendo. No, it was you.
It was an Nintendo you couldn't close.
Nope, it was a Nintendo. I did nothing different from the
previous 12 balls of all the strike in.
I'm going to fucking bowl a perfect game if it fucking kills
me, I swear to God. Oh gosh.

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What else we do? Next week I'm widowed with
movies. What else we do last weekend?
We had a Nerf gun obstacle course fight.
It was a ton of fun. We love to do that.
I'm a great shot, mullet is not,so it's always fun for me.
We also hung out together, all of us.

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Beautiful. Yeah.
I thought we did more things, but we didn't.
No, no, that, that was it really.
Yeah, we watched some. Wrestling nice and simple.
Yeah, nice and easy. We also, I don't know if it was
earlier this week or over the weekend, we watched a movie
together that we'll not be covering for the podcast because
it's streaming. We watched Chasing Chasing Amy,

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a documentary I was really interested in that is now on
Prime Video. It is a documentary of an
independent filmmaker who had a infamous not infamous, but a
notable Ted talk about their queer journey and how Chasing
Amy was very very important to that process.
Even though the Chasing Amy is ahighly controversial movie in

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the LGBTQIA community, this movie also aligns with that film
makers own journey coming out astrans.
The interview most of the peoplewithin Chasing Amy and other
experts and I enjoyed it. I thought it was a really,
really good I. Had such a cool look.
We or that we. But I watch a lot of

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entertainment documentaries, particularly ones that aren't
big budget, let's say a lot of like fan driven ones.
And this is kind of the perfect combination of both of those
concepts. And I normally have a lot of
problems with a lot of the stuffthis movie did in terms of how

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prevalent the the filmmaker themselves is in the process.
You know how low on new information or actual insight
the these podcasts are those those.
These documentaries are right, we didn't learn something new.
Really, I didn't have those complaints here, even though I
feel like the movie did a lot ofthat still, because it was

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pretty inspirational and heartfelt it was.
Very authentic. Yeah, incredibly authentic.
Yeah. And I, I would highly recommend
it. And I look forward to eventually
covering the view Askew averse on the podcast as soon as one of
those movies gets gets drawn outof the random box.
Because we've kind of separated those into their own thing

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because they're all technically kind of tied together.
So we'll get to them at some point.
But watch that. Have we talked about War of the
Worlds on the show? I don't think we talked.
I don't think we talked about War of the Worlds either.
It's already been 8 minutes, so let's not.
We should have a whole separate.Segment.

(08:22):
I mean, if we if we were, I meanpatreon.com/arcade audio is very
much still a thing for the time being.
Get a while you can. It is very much like the perfect
movie to discuss on Patreon, butwe'll save that for another time
because we have plenty to talk about with today's movie off of
our Can't pick list. This was nominated by Samantha

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at some point and I chose to notwatch it.
And sure enough, we still had towatch it.
Whose turn is it to read the box?
It's your turn to read the box, Sir.
What's the score? I know you're.
One, are you? Are you are you feeling nervous
today because of your mush mouth?
I'm of course. 20 to 24, OK. So I just can't get 5 all right

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here we. Go or you can get 5.
I won't get 5 Across the Universe.
Across the Universe sweeps you up on a wave of terrific Beatles
songs, says Peter Travers, Rolling.
Stone, can you move it maybe this way so I can see, yeah.
Within the lyrics of the world'smost famous songs lives a story
that has never been told until now.

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Across the Universe from director Julie Taymor is a
revolutionary rock musical that reimagines America in the
turbulent late 1960s, a time when battle lines were being
drawn at home and aboard Aboard abroad.
That's one. I knew it was abroad and I still
set a board. When young dockworker Jude Jim

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Sturgis leaves Liverpool to findhis estranged father in America,
he swept up by the waves of change that are reshaping the
nation. Jude falls in love with Lucy
Evan Rachel Wood, a rich but sheltered American girl who
joins the growing anti war movement in New York's Greenwich
Village. As the body count in Vietnam
rises, political tensions at home spiral out of control and

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the star crossed lovers find themselves in a psychedelic
world gone mad. With a cameo by bono.
Cross the Universe quote is the kind of movie you watch again,
like listening to your favorite album, it, says Roger Ebert, The
Chicago Sun Times. OK, so you got one.
It's fine. So 24 to 21.
Yeah. Very, very interesting.

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So you nominated this movie, which means I technically need
to not to score it first. Well, first, we've both
obviously seen this movie beforewe saw it in theaters.
We did. We saw it in theaters.
Working at the theater at the time in which it came out, I'm.
Pretty. Sure came on either O7 or O81 of
the two. Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Have we watched? I know I've seen it at least one

(10:53):
since. We've watched this I've, I've
rewatched this since Yes, I I ama big Beatles fan.
I am also a big Beatles fan which is why I think this movie
is trash. I hate these kind of movies the
first time I saw it. Well let me give my score.
I'm giving this movie A3. You're giving this movie a
three, this movie a three. You're insane.

(11:17):
I'm you're dumb. I'm not dumb.
It's called having an opinion. And I think this movie is
pretentious, nonsensical. And the best thing about it is
The Beatles music, which sounds familiar when we watch Sergeant
Pepper's Only Hearts Club Band. The difference is that that
movie had a terrific acting in. This movie at least has some

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decent performances and has. All Right.
A three is probably low. Yeah.
It is. It absolutely is.
I'm giving this movie. I have to also score this movie.
I'm going to. I'm giving this movie an 88.
OK. Yes.
OK, so let me just, let's just remember, what did we give
Sergeant Pepper? We gave it A2, both of us.
I don't, I don't know, cumulatively probably.

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It was last year. Let me see.
Yeah, I mean, I'll, I'll adjust my score at the end of it, but
my gut feeling, what I wrote down in my notes immediately
after sitting through this fucking movie, I, I.
It was a three. I think you're being too harsh
and we'll talk through it and everything, but I I don't think
that this is a three at all. So.
I I don't think this is an they both did.

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Give it a 2. So we did both give Sergeant
Peppers A2. The the difference between
Sergeant Pepper's and this to me, I mean, there's a lot you
have actual actors for the most part in this that are able to
and. Your your buddy.
Your buddy Robin Gibbs not in. This.
Don't call him my fucking buddy.The great Robin Gibb impression

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though. Good thing it's on a podcast.
I just had my mouth like weirdlyshaped and open.
Well, be able to tell us something else.
About You're fine. Oh my God, you're so funny.
I know so. Come on, you're trying to tell
us the difference between Sergeant Peppers and the Hiss.
You've said it three times, but you haven't made a point yet.

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And. That's a great summit.
That should be my review for this movie.
This movie doesn't have a fucking point.
Yes, it. Does this movie?
Absolutely. Does it's a?
It's a story about star crossed lovers.
You read the back of the box. Yeah, the movie makes it sound
like the entire movie is like they're crossed up in Vietnam
and it's just a piece of it. I think this movie has woefully

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underwritten characters. I think this movie was basically
just, hmm, how can we artsy fartsy The Beatles up?
And that's what Julie Taymor is known for.
I'm not a Julie Taymor fan. It's throwing visuals and style
over any kind of substance. The substance in this movie
comes from songs that I'll just listen to and and take away from

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it what I want to take away fromit, as opposed to pigeonholing
their songs into a story that isincredibly uninteresting.
The the story has been told a somany fucking times.
Tell me a story that hasn't though.
Sure, but the difference is in the execution, and this

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execution is not the is not the version of the story that I
like. So tell me so explain.
To me, I think I think that thismovie looks beautiful.
I'm. Not going to argue with that.
Like I know you said, oh, it's artsy fartsy, but I think the
use of color and the different stylistic choices brought to

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life a lot of the songs. It obviously has some, you know,
miscasting, which we'll get to, but I think that they used the
songs and like, I, I just think that they really leaned into it.

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I think it just, it just felt like The Beatles more than like
Sergeant Pepper's did. If we're going to go down that
comparison like this just felt morbidly, that's not really a
word, but. That should, because Jim Starr
just looks like Paul McCartney. Well.
That's literally the going firstnote was Jim Sturges got this

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role a because he can sing legitimately, which is fine, and
like he looks like a young Paul McCartney.
But why it? But why is that a negative then?
Like that's not, but that's not fair to.
Whole I wasn't saying. You know it.
Is like I was I was answering your.
Your question, it enhances the vibe and the feel and
everything. Yeah, I mean the the your buddy

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can sing. I mean the Bee Gees they have.
Robin Gibb is not my fucking. Grandfather not going to go.
Y'all going to go hang out? Y'all going to go first of all
fishing? Pretty sure Robin Gibb is dead,
so I'm not going to fucking havea graveyard picnic at Robin
Gibb's fucking tombstone. I'm not doodle the travel bud.
What food I bring. To Robin Kiss headstone

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gravestone. Probably like Marmite sandwiches
or something. No, 'cause I probably I I like
play the spaghetti because of the family eating it in Saturday
Night Live or Saturday Night Fever.
I don't know. The story is the biggest problem
for the ME this movie has largely.
Two people who fall in love and the timing isn't right, and then

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the timing is right and then it's not just because we've been
together for 550 episodes of thepodcast and married for longer.
I mean, not everybody is as lucky as we are, babe.
So I I get that, but it's largely.
Don't you feel lucky? It's largely inconsequential to

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the overall like theme and messaging to me of the movie.
You're just waiting for the nextBeatles song to start.
That's a common jukebox musical problem that I have is it's
really hard to take pre-existingsongs and put them within a
narrative that didn't exist withthe pre-existing songs.

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It's a lazy trope just like a biopic that I don't get up for
unless the execution is flawless.
This ain't it because I also don't buy into the Lucy and Jude
love story whatsoever. They have one conversation
without any chemistry early on and then all of a sudden he's

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head over heels while they're bowling with one another like it
and then everything. You didn't fall in love with me
after one conversation. How many times you're going to
give me the laugh like that on this podcast?
No. You want me to be honest?
No. We've talked about this just

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because I was hot fucking stuff.Oh yeah, yeah, you and your
goatee. Real hot stuff.
I'm not going to argue your point about how amazing this
movie looks. The lighting, the choreography,
the camera work. That is where this movie
absolutely soars. Yeah, that.
But that to me is a very very external positive.

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There's nothing internal about it beyond we have the rights of
The Beatles. Let's slap together as many
fucking characters we can that resemble people of the time and
and keep like cloying at the same fucking Vietnam anti war
stories. What other time period would you

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have it take place? It's appropriate.
Why does it have? Why is it time sensitive to
that? Why does The Beatles music have
to be included in this era of time?
This is where it came from. That's where a lot of the
inspiration came from. This is the beginning of it.
Not to say that it's the only time period it can be, but you

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know, it's, that's the origin. Like that's when they were up
and coming and that's when everything kind of came, came
out. But the problem, the problem I
have also is that so even some some, I also don't like most of
the renditions of the songs. Here again, same problem we have
with Sergeant Peppers. All just fucking listen to the

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good versions of the song. There are a couple that are
done. Differently, and even for the
ones that are done well, like I like the version of Come
Together in this movie, I think it's very, very good.
But all the theatrics and all the weirdos and everything
that's going on is just to me, hoity toity, artsy fartsy

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bullshit. Or it's exactly what you would
experience in the 60s in the middle of New York.
And it's the marriage of the fantastical and the reality,
which I feel like The Beatles represents, especially with a
lot of the music like I and The Walrus and Mr. Kai and a lot of
Sergeant Pepper stuff. Like that's what this is.

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That's what the that's like whatit comes out of.
Yes, a lot of it is real. You have the love songs and you
have a lot of that stuff. But when I think of The Beatles,
I think of like fantastical, of course.
And so and so, I think it's a good representation of.

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That and I love the, the, the juxtaposition of like that kind
of music video as kind of thing with just like the reality, like
when they are bowling and they have like all the, the number,
like everyone's dancing and jumping and prancing and
everything. I just think it's really cool
and I I think it just speaks to The Beatles.

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I I appreciate that you can pullfrom that.
I just don't the, the style doesnot match the substance for me.
And a lot of it is pacing. Like there just feels like a
need to get from song to song when you have so many freaking
characters as well. So you have obviously Jude and
Lucy as our primaries, but you also have Max, You also have

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Sadie. You also have JoJo.
You also have Prudence. You also have and the new the
new infuse people like fucking Bono and fucking Paco and
fucking dopey and grumpy and sleazy and on all of them.
So like a prime example. We'll wait until we get into

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things and it's like don't necessarily like about the
movie, which for me is going to be the main focus of of the
podcast. But for you, what are some
things that particularly you like from a scene perspective
that stand up for you, stand up to you as the the your
favorites? I really liked Where is it?

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Oh, I just had it and then I just moved my notes.
Hang on one second. I I liked to let it be seen.
So do I. That's actually.
That's actually my favorite partof the movie.
Yeah, it's one of the, it's one of my favorite renditions, one
of the most beautiful renditionsof Let It Be.

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I like that whole scene and that.
For everyone at home that isn't that isn't where Let It Be is
earlier on the movie when Lucy'sboyfriend dies in Vietnam.
And it's also kind of juxtapose against the Detroit riots.
Yep, and this and this black child passing away in the middle
of the riot. Who's the one who's the one
who's singing? That's my favorite part of the.
Movie and then and then a choir singing and that child's older

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brother is JoJo, who's an an integral part of the movie, like
a Jimi Hendrix esque figure right and then it's kind of like
his story and you know and it's one of those things where like
it kind of weaves in all of their stories together.
So I I like that I. Agree.

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I agree with you there. Beautiful and then like when
they're showing like the, the little black boy's funeral, like
you said, and Lucy's boyfriend'sfuneral because he died in the
war too. Like, just like the shots
together. Like I thought that was great.
I, I know that you already talked about the come together

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version. I liked that scene with the pimp
and everything. I like, I like the song itself,
I mean. I like.
It's fucking Joe Cocker. So am I.
Not really. Cool, I also let me see what
else I liked. There's a couple I didn't like
in between and then I I love theending.

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Just the whole rooftop. Fucking hate the ending.
Oh I love the ending. I hate the ending.
Well, OK, look, everyone's back together and they're singing on
a roof and the cops come and I'll let them go.
And then they just see each other from across the way and
that they just look at each other.
That's that's stupid. OK.
What tell me how I'm wrong? Because she couldn't, she tried

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to get in the building. They won't let her in the
building, so she went to the other building up on the roof.
So he saw her, so he knew that she heard him.
And she still loves him, too. Great.
You're a fucking prick. It's it's an incredibly

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anticlimactic ending to the movie.
Like you're not going to give usour big reunion, our big
emotional like make good. Like what the fucking point is
sitting through two hours and 13minutes of this horse shit if
we're not going to fucking bringit home?
The other song version that I like.
And again, I think there's a bias based off of my personal

(24:49):
favorite Beatles songs and preferences.
I like the with a little help from my friends earlier on.
Yeah, I like. That but again, contextually,
like contextually that's one that they make work.
Like the song allows you to get a quick back story and almost
montage of how Jude and Max become to become such good

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friends and their frivolity together.
But like the images and like what they're doing is all over
the place because you have no idea what the passage of time.
I think it's just one night, right?
Is what the tendency is supposedto be.
One night, many nights, it's like that college experience
kind of thing. That's actually the best save

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you've had this whole time. It's a little, it's a little too
cute, but it's still better thanpretty much all the rest of the
songs that I that we experienced.
What else? I got nothing else in terms of
stuff that I like. I'm ready to just vent on all
the rest of it. I mean, I like, I like a lot of
the references, like when they go to New York and like they

(25:53):
meet Sadie and she's like, oh, you guys look nice, but you
could have killed your granny with a, with a hammer, right?
Like because Max is Maxwell Silver hammer.
Like, I like a lot of that. The Easter eggs and the
references are mostly innocuous.You have the guy who says when
he he wanted to retire when he was 64.

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Of course Prudence comes in through the bathroom window.
Like it as. As somebody that has rolled his
eyes and groaned in almost everysingle intellectual property
mover the past 1520 years, having to nail those lines for
fan service, I can live with this movie doing what it does.
It's not over it. I don't think it's overly.

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Well, the overdone is the fact that there's like 30s Beatles
songs, but you know, but everything else in between, you
know, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll let it breathe, let it
breathe, let it breathe, let it breathe.
That's not how the song goes, Yeah.
So what's the next thing that we're going to talk about?

(27:01):
Stuff we didn't like. Yes, I'll let you start before I
can ISO for the next 1520 minutes.
I really didn't like more towards, like I don't know if
it's the middle or the end. I think it's like towards the
end. I did not like the Mr. Kite.

(27:23):
Oh yeah. Mr. Kite and I didn't like it
through Doctor Robert. Let's previous so Bono, the I Am
the Walrus trip. And then?
Yeah, the movie, the movie's already, like, in my opinion,
suffering because there's just way too much going on.

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And there's things that are like, I get there's going to be
some psychedelic trippy stuff. It's The Beatles.
There's a lot of bullshit. We were listening to Sergeant
Pepper earlier. We were working on puzzles and
Legos, and I was like, like this, like, they are on so much
shit. Yeah.
It was. It was the 60s.
Yeah, but that can translate to music that doesn't always

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translate to a visual storytelling medium.
The movie is fully off the railsonce Bono is Doctor Robert.
And they apparently, just on a whim, all get on a bus and
travel thousands of miles acrossthe country to meet somebody
that's not even there. But it's OK Mr. Kite's here to

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have a performance for you and show you how everything's OK.
And I get that supposed to be representating, you know, like
the effects that drugs have on you and blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah. It doesn't matter.
It's fucking worthless in the scope of the movie.
And it's just sucking up time because we got Bono for a day.
Like that's all it fucking means.

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Or probably a couple days that. That is not my least favorite
scene in the movie, but I think it probably is the worst.
Scene. That's my least favorite scene
in the. Movie it.
Is the I know, which sucks because I know Walrus is
probably like in my top three Beatles.
I love I am the walrus. And so so like that really
sucks, but. It's also.

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It's also. Bono's not I'm not a fan of
Bono. Oh, we're going to get the Bono,
possibly later. It's also because it's
sandwiched right in between, like Prudence leaving and then
they get there and then Prudenceis just there.
Prudence is just part of the whole Mr. Kite.
Experience. And then there's like that,

(29:26):
there's all that fucking psychedelic mermaid bullshit and
then boom, let's get back to thefact that there's a war going on
and and Max has to go off and fight for it.
Like, yeah, it's just, it's fucking bunk is all it fucking
is. Well, I think that that is
really because, yes, that serious shit is happening, but

(29:47):
it doesn't consume you. You know, it's like, yeah, he
the, the war is still happening,but they still are living their
lives doing drugs, taking Rd. Trips, you know, just doing the
thing I. Must say you're doing a very
good job on this podcast. You should don't.

(30:08):
Fucking condescend to me. I know it sounds condescending
but I don't know who else to sayit.
Fuck. You.
You know, cuz I don't cuz I don't believe it.
You're not changing my opinions,but somebody that is Dumber

(30:28):
might be. Here's a piece.
Of shit. Here you want some water.
No, I'm good. I have some.
I'm OK, all right. And so is there anything else?
I I figured you felt the same way about the Doctor Roberts
scene. What other ones do you have?
My teeth hurt now because I justtried to drink all that water.
Good for you. She just, she just swallowed a

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lake excuse. Me, it was distracting for me.
It's not the scene that I didn'tlike.
I really liked like the effects,like when they were showing Max
addicted to morphine, right, andthey were doing happiness as a
warm gun. Took me out of it.

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That Salma Hayek was the nurses.Took me it took me to probably
back into it. I bet it did.
That's. Salma Hayek every year for the
past 30 years to my She's also on my MVP list, by the way.
She's not going to be the MVP, but my note was.
Sue me, she adds. She adds to the lack of

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subtlety, too. Happiness of the Warren Gun is
probably one of my top three least favorite People songs
because ever. Yes, 'cause it is like it is the
least subtle of them all. It is blatantly about fucking
sex and it's just bad. OK, but I I just I like how they
handled it in this movie. I like that scene.

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I just, it took me out of it because I was like, I know that
Salma Hayek and for the most part, most of this cast, it was
more subtle. It just really her and Bono or
the 2. Yes, well, I mean Eddie Izzard,
like you knew that was Eddie Izzard when he.
Came out. I mean I would, I mean you.
Expected that to be Eddie Izzardwhen he came out, you know what

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I mean? Like that, some leniency, just
in terms of like, if you don't know, like people know who Bono
and Salma Hayek are, right? There are a larger pocket.
Of people. Who don't know who?
Eddie. That's a great point.
That's a great. Point.
That's more so why it's. That's a great point.
So he was. Covered under a bunch of stuff,
it was. A little more jarring,
especially because, like Salma Hayek, she had a nurse's outfit

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on like. What's a little jarring?
Because there's like 80 of her, right?
That's an exaggeration. But also, Bono was.
Maybe not 80. How about four?
At least Bono was kind of like in a character.
Was it in a costume? That was just an error of Bono.
He had that, his little glasses.He had a fucking hat on.
That's the hat that Bono's gonnaget fucking buried in.

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Alright, so I so I didn't hate that as much as what my actual
least favorite scene in the movie is.
I want you when he's going, whenMax is actually going through.
Like. Like because.
You didn't like that? No.
Because you have like all the trippy fucking faces and the

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Uncle Sam fucking talking to himand like the processional, like
you're not fucking Pink Floyd. Like that's all that it is, Is
it's it's it's it's taking the concept of another famous rock
album and rock artist and putting it in another artist's
music with the same visual aesthetic.

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Fuck you. Like it's just it's frustrating
because also things are moving so fucking fast.
So you're not made the feeling. I didn't feel anything when Max
was going through that process because immediately right before
that scene, Lucy's Lucy has her boring ass fucking song where
she realizes she likes Jude too.And then that song happens and

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we just keep moving. We need to go from song to song
and we have to make sure that each character gets something,
you know? To move it along, I want you to
seem so bizarre. And I thought it actually was,
you know, wild and it in that kind of was more of when it's,

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you know, more of that like psychedelic kind of vibe.
But I thought that they did thatreally well with with him going
through the army and and everything.
Else I'm not going to fight withthe choreography, I'm not going
to fight with how the the the art direction and the production
design is. I think all that stuff is

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fantastic. That's only those are the
drapings. I need to have some fucking,
some some meat on the bone in order for me to be sustained.
And this movie doesn't have any fucking meat.
Where to begin? So Mac Guffin of the movie is

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his father. So I like the whole point of him
coming to America. It just did get him to America.
And to give him somebody that that comes to to try to help him
when he's on the precipice and eventually does get deported,
like two big nothing burgers of scenes.
I don't dislike the actor who plays his dad.

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I think he did a good job of just being like a regular ho hum
everyday American guy who's like, I'm sorry, I didn't
fucking know. But like, those scenes do
absolutely nothing to the greater scheme of the.
Movie. It gives you some back story.
I don't need back story. Why could he just come to
America to like, come to America?
Because there would be no reasonfor him to do it illegally if

(35:47):
that were the case. Still don't fucking buy any of
it at all. It's.
Maybe because you're American and you've never had to go
anywhere before, ever. I literally thought you're going
to say maybe it's because you actually fucking did this with
your real boss. Maybe it's because you.
Maybe because you got sour fucking grapes, buddy.

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So that much of a bitch. No, but it would have fucking
brought the house down. There's that fucking Yanni
fucking high school teeny boppersong when she's like wounding
over the guy that from the moment you see him, you know
that that guy is going to get blown the fuck up.
Blown. Up so, which is a big old waste
of time. It's again we have like, how can

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we fit this Beatles song into it?
That's that's it's there and it fucking doesn't work.
Never mind the fact that it's also like how cringy all like
the perverted high school stuff is in this movie.
But again, it's the fucking 60s.Not that it matters.
What do you mean it's 2025? They're fucking sitting outside
talking about like, man, when they get breasts and man,
they're they're they're, you know, really developing and hey,

(36:51):
sugar tits and. No one said sugar tits.
We didn't see Mel Gibson walkingthe scene, no.
One said sugar tits. They basically said it with
their eyes. Everything Sadie and JoJo could
not give a Baker's fuck about. We get it.
We want to represent Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin.

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And I thought that they were both really great
representations of Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin.
When they're singing, sure, but when they're acting, they're
both the drizzling shits. They're the two worst actors in
my opinion in the movie, and we'll probably talk about one.
Nah, that's not true. That's not true.
One of them is worse and than the other, and we'll talk about
the other ones later on. OK, so anything Sadie.

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Same thing with Prudence. Like we have no time.
At one point there's this obnoxious ass scene when they're
in Katz's deli when Max gets like his like papers and he's
getting drafted and. Oh I hate that scene.
That scene is so I hate that scene fucking enough just.
Her in that scene. Who's 80?
No. Oh, Prudence.
Prudence. Yeah, I mean Prudence is also.

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I thought that's it. You were.
Talking she's on my LVP list. No, but it's like all of them
like coming up with ideas for like to have to get him out of
like, you know, basically draft dodging.
And then there's like a beeknik in like an Afro like black girl
there. They're never named.
They're in like 3, they're 3 or 4 scenes and it's like what?
Why, what? Why do we need two other people

(38:14):
here? Why couldn't spend any?
The people that we've already established, like why are we
sucking up room in space for this?
We have no time to care about them.
We don't have time to care aboutfucking Prudence.
We get one scene early on with Prudence that I don't like that
scene either. When she's she butchers.
I want to hold your hand. It is the energy of a of dying.

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She's coming out. She, she is, you know.
I get, I get it. I don't hate the messaging
behind it. I hate the execution behind it.
I want to be executed watching it.
Oh my God, it's so that that thethe obnoxiousness of that cat's
delicacy makes me realize like how fucking old I'm like, fuck
you, you got papers, go serve your country.

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That's somebody that's like, I'mlike like the most liberal
person in the fucking world, andI'm like, screw you people, but
like it's all very vapid to me there.
There's no, there's no like, reason why any of it's fucking
happening beyond getting us frompoint A to point B.
And each point is a different song in The Beatles discography.

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But I, I disagree with you, Chris, because that's how it was
then for the Liberals. If you grew up in the 60s and
there was a mandatory draft, youwould be in that camp.
You would be doing what Max is doing.
You would burn the draft letter if you were to get it.

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It's a completely different mentality.
It's easy for us to look back and say 50 years ago this is
what it should have been, or they did it poorly or whatever
it is, but the reality is we're lucky that there isn't a
mandatory draft now. You would have done the same as
that shit. The point I'm trying to make is
the way that these characters act and behave around and about

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it. Mostly they're mostly the
writing and mostly their performances.
Don't adhere. Don't like.
But you can't tell me that if there was a mandatory draft now,
you're not. Our friends wouldn't be sitting
around a Steak and Shake at 2:00in the morning of.
Course they would. Having a conversation similar to
that. They would we would be
entertaining and we would be saying we would be doing that in

(40:27):
an interesting way. That doesn't happen here.
They are cling and annoying and not very good at their jobs.
In that particular scene. That's what I'm focused about.
They made me feel an opposite way of how I actually feel about
what they're talking about in the scene.

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All of as soon as Paco comes into the picture.
Paco can. It also didn't help that I
didn't remember that was Logan Marshall Green, who I'm not the
biggest fan of. Paco's a Paco.
A Paco jet because like everything with the like Paco
and Jude, like every time they're in a scene together, you
know, like, like Jude comes in and sings Revolution, which I

(41:13):
feel like is like the second or third time he fucking does it.
He gets kicked out because he's singing.
Like I also hate in like these movies, like the like when the
4th wall is really, really hard to maintain because like, OK,
are we supposed to believe in this world?
This character is burst into this room and is singing in this

(41:35):
situation. It it works when it's done well
and that to me it's not done well.
He gets kicked out because he's singing and he fucking gets
punched and he deserves it. But everything is so overwrought
and like overly dramatic out of nowhere.
So like there's no escalation tolike Lucy and Jude's like

(41:56):
separation at all. It's just all of a sudden she
she's interested in the cause and Jude has a problem with it
and all of a sudden like he's all artsy fartsy smashing
fucking strawberries on a wall, which is another shitty scene.
I hate the strawberry fields forever scene because it's just
imagery and emotion and like it comes out of fucking nowhere.

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Do you like that scene? I I do, I do like the scene and
I think that it it just that's the choice that was made to
portray that and to be like the vessel for the song.
I don't think that there's anything wrong with it.
It's established really on he's an artist.
It's established that he's doing.

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It is established on these and all of a sudden he just starts
drawing and I'm like, how is this guy like sustaining himself
and making money? Like he's an illegal immigrant.
We're not going there. And like all of a sudden he's
just sitting at a table. Like it's never a conversation.
It's never like. But so you argue about, but you
argue about there being too muchexposition.

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Not with our bleed character. Give me more of that.
Give me a minute of that of him drawing and Lucy walking up and
being like, that's really, really beautiful.
Yeah, I've always drawn because like it, it took the the the
pain away of not having a dad, blah blah blah blah blah,
instead of having fucking. The reality?
Instead of like fucking, you know, fucking bootleg Ginsburg,

(43:28):
you know, saying whatever horseshit he's going to say.
Look at like, how like, what does he do?
What does he do for money? Like we we see.
He sells the art that he makes and he saved up money from the
shipyard in England and the pound was stronger than the
dollar back then. Thanks for the foreign currency

(43:51):
analysis. I also like.
You piece of. Shit I don't know what this note
means. I this movie is so bad I want to
make mine. I think there was an autocorrect
there. I don't know what it is.
It's right around the across theuniverse scene which is my
favorite Beatles song and it's the namesake of the movie.
And if if it is the title song yet, you really need to have it

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be a better a better rendition and needed to me have it mean
something more like this movie should have been named like four
other things than Across the universe, because they they to
me, the the meaning behind the the the scene itself is is kind
of worthless in in how it's portrayed.
Do you like the across the university?

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I'm indifferent to. It OK The other thing I like
this is the right before we havethose like weird girls who look
like they were all out of the ring that like fall back into
the water. You know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, they're the IT was with the Vietnamese mask or whatever
like that they had they. Were wearing a mask, they were

(45:00):
just painted all white. Well, yeah, no.
And they, some of them had maskson and they had masks in the
water. Honestly, probably just.
Started yeah, because there werelike 4 bodies and like 7 heads.
You didn't notice that? Like seven faces.
Give me a sensible story and notjust fucking images, but I'm not
a go in a fucking Art Museum. Yeah, but this is Art is a way

(45:26):
to tell a story, right? Movies are way to tell a story.
Music is a way to tell a story. This was an attempt to bring all
those things together to tell the same story.
And I think it was more successful than what you are.
You know, you're lambasting it, and I don't think it necessarily

(45:49):
deserves it. Were there poor choices on
something? Sure.
But it was a sign of the times that it takes place in.
And if could it have taken placein the 2000s?
Sure, but they chose to do it inthe 60s.
And so that's why this is all those drippings.

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I did not live through the 60s. I wish I did.
I would have loved to have livedthrough the 60s, but I didn't.
So can only assume that, you know, the way I feel and the
things I think today, I you know, I can only assume that and

(46:31):
relate to what I would have donein the 60s too.
But you know. Touché.
It's art, Like, yeah. And art is open to your
interpretation, sure. And my interpretation of this
sure is that it's no bueno. OK, you also think Mona Lisa is
ugly so. Excuse me, I've never said that

(46:53):
whatsoever. It's overrated but.
That's been all for this. Week's Well, the most sign of
the times, the most 16 things, the most 60s thing about this
movie is a very brief scene thatI liked is the when Jude goes
back to Liverpool and he's talksto his ex-girlfriend Molly, It's

(47:14):
like the most just chill, like, yeah, shit happens.
Conversation of all time. Like, there's obviously like,
you know, feelings, you know, angst within one another there.
Very angsty part of the movie aswell, because that's when Paco's
making bombs and they blow each other up and Jude thinks that
Lucy's gone and it's like, yeah,we had to go there, I guess.
Well. I mean that that's the reality.
I know, but like, it's just it'sexhausting this movie, it's.

(47:39):
Life though. But it's.
Just that's life. That's young love you don't
remember 20 years ago. Almost when we were in the
throes of young love for. Fuck's sake, what?
Am I wrong? MVP and LVP.
You did not have this much Gray in your beard 20 years ago.
You didn't even have a beard 20 years ago.
Are we are we going to go down this?

(47:59):
Are we going to go down this path?
If you want. I don't.
That's why I'm asking you to confirm if you want to continue
on this, because we can, or we can just get an MVP and LVP.
Oh, no, you're only saying that because you think you're going
to you're going to pull something out that's going to
really offend me. Go on then.
No, Yeah, you absolutely said that comment.

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So you called I. Did because you took an
unnecessary shot at me staring at my ugly big ass beard.
I never said it was ugly. I like your beard.
Thank you, it's bothering my lips.
Well, you need to trim it. Yeah.
But if I trim it then like like is it going to be long?
Enough. No, no, like don't like shave
it. No, like take some scissors and

(48:40):
like trim the beard so it's not over your lip.
Much like that's the weirder that going to take.
Trim the mustache. Yeah, Oh my God.
But I'm the problem in this episode.
Yeah, you guys wanna like this movie?
MVP or LVP? Where do you want to start?
We talked enough about the kind of the trivia and the other

(49:03):
semantics. I'm not a big Julie Taymor fan.
I know people love like the musical The Lion King.
Sure. Hey Charlie.
Hey Charlie. And I mean, a lot of people like
it. It's just not for me.
I'll just watch the fucking cartoon.
Fucking basic bitch, you're such.
A basic bitch. I was going to say, if you don't

(49:25):
fucking swing at that fucking 70mile an hour right down the
middle fastball, you better something to point out.
This movie was screened for, like, all the living Beatles and
Yoko Ono. And they all loved it, of
course, to the point where Paul McCartney was like, like, like
Julie Taymor was like nervous about his reaction.
He's like, yeah, what else is there?

(49:46):
Not the like, it's like, yeah, you fucking eat your tissue.
Just got to fucking sit there and watch somebody jerk off on
your lungs for 2 1/2 hours. Of course you're not going to
have a problem with it. I don't think that's true
because a lot of people did. I mean, didn't Queen have a
problem with with, well, that biopic?
Well, Queen had a problem when Sacha Baron Cohen wanted to tell
the real story and in the do notgive me in this movie's defense,

(50:09):
this movie makes Bohemian Rhapsody makes this movie look
like fucking Oppenheimer like. But also they're doing different
things. This is not a biopic.
This is a a jukebox dramedy. Music I know.
You guys want to point that out?MVP or LVP, where do you want to

(50:31):
start? We've kind of been flirting on
LVP already, so let's go there. So let's go there.
So I have three people on my list.
OK, but why is it Bono? Why?
He said. Why or why not?
Is it? Why is it?
I mean. LVP locked.
In as soon as so. Can't he don't even say anything
yet his face just shows up. I'm like I wrote down oh LVP.

(50:53):
Locked in, I wrote Bono parentheses immediately.
Immediately. Because locked in it.
Takes you out of the movie because.
Kind of like what Salma Hayek did for me, but Bono did it
worse. Someone hiked, didn't have to
fucking sing and then deliver lines and do this like bullshit.
Doctor Robert. Also he has like some shitty

(51:16):
fucking rhyming line in this where Bono says, and I quote
something about masturbating alligators and it's like, I
don't want to do this anymore. And I don't mean the podcast, I
mean like watch movies. It's so bad it makes me not want
to watch movies ever again. Oh.
No, the other two people I have are two people have already kind

(51:39):
of referenced Prudence. I thought she was very bad.
TV Carpaccio. TV Carpio is her name Carpaccio
and that I'm not docking points for the name, you know, like it
is what it is. But her I hope my hand is bad.
Her everything she says and all of her everything she says in
the cat's deli scene, all of herbrooding, you know, like I get

(52:00):
she's going through like an emotional journey, but like
there's a better, more nuanced way to do it than her just
seemingly wanting to fucking jump down the throat of any
single female in her path. I also really didn't like the
guy that played JoJo. I thought he I thought he looked
like a bad bootleg Jimi Hendrix impersonation.

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And tonally, all of his lines were really, really all over the
place. And I thought.
Beautiful job singing like, well, my guitar gently.
We that was that was fine. That's ultimately going to save
his ass. Like I thought Oh darling was
atrocious. Oh, darling scene where they're
kind of like arguing with one another on Sage by like singing
at one another and like riffing the guitar and.

(52:43):
Everything I think, I think it would have been better had he
sung more than just interjected.Sure, I.
Think because when they started singing it I think then the song
kind of got better. Their whole like they're the C
plot, like Jude and Lucy is the A plot, Max is the B plot, JoJo
and Sadie is the C plot, Prudence is the D plot.

(53:06):
It's a movie. We're not like a procedural
drama where we have time to advance these things.
But it's Bono. It's absolutely Bono.
Yeah. So Bono's LVP, Saving TV,
Carpio. And what's the name of the guy
who plays JoJo? It starts with Martin Luther.
I know that. No, that's his name is Martin.

(53:26):
Luther. No, but there's something else
to it. He was formerly in the Roots, I
believe. I'm trying to find it.
No, his name is just Martin Luther.
No, I'm almost positive he had another.
Name. Oh, it's Martin Luther as Martin
Luther McCoy. Yeah, Martin Luther McCoy.
But it but on IMDb it's Martin Luther.

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Yeah. What was I saying?
Yeah, so Bono's our LVPMVPI havea two real answers because I
also had Salma Hayek on my list.I I think it's Jim Sturgis, but
I think Joe Anderson. Those are the two I have.

(54:08):
On my list? Fabulous.
OK, let's talk about Evan RachelWood for a second, because she's
not the LVP. She's not.
I don't think she's bad, I just think she's pretty.
I think she's miscast. Yeah, absolutely.
I absolutely, I hated there was 1 scene that I was like oh girl
you're lucky Bono's in this movie.
It was probably that fucking song I was talking about

(54:30):
earlier. I didn't mind her, I think she
has a lovely. Voice, I think she.
Has a lovely voice. I think she, I really liked her
rendition of Blackbird. You know, I think she has a nice
voice. There was a scene where she was
talking like walking and talking, walking and talking

(54:50):
with somebody. Where, where's my note on here
fucking that scene. Oh and she's talking about how
she could never have kids and it's narcissistic.
Hated her in. That.
I thought she was terrible and it was really from the start.
And it might be the editing because that scene starts when
she was like, and I was like, ohman, that's terrible like that.

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It was just a rough start to that scene.
I don't think she did anything. I thought she was flat in a lot
of her acting, yes, but I liked her anytime she was doing the
singing. I would agree.
I would agree. I did think that.
I didn't have her on either list.
I thought that she was as middleof the road as you can to the

(55:38):
two extremes that are in the. Movie, yeah, but but so Max and
and Jude, I thought they were fabulous.
So Max is, is is who I would probably stake a a flag to the
ground for. I'm fine if we ultimately go
with Jim Sturgis because Max to me is has actual charisma and

(55:58):
energy. The other problem with, like a
lot of the other people is they feel like they're trying to
replicate somebody like for all,not just because of from a
visual perspective, Jim Sturgis is having to be Paul McCartney.
For all intents and purposes, Max is not having to be any
other Beatle. He's getting to be himself and

(56:19):
that separates him from the restof the cast.
And he actually has passion and like vigor in like his line
delivery and and that helped JimSturgis initially I thought was
like not the best, but like he wins me over throughout the
movie just because of how good he is at the songs.

(56:43):
Like all of I don't have a problem with any of his songs
really because of how he sounds and how he how he delivers them.
I may have a problem with the style of the song.
I may have a problem with the way the song is used within the
scope of the narrative. But I don't have a problem with
his delivery and performance of it.
I have more of a delivery, a delivery problem with him in
terms of his scenes with like his dad, like we said before

(57:05):
with Evan Rachel Wood, you know,I don't buy their chemistry
necessarily. I'll chalk it up more so to the
script better than anything else, but I'll let you stop
looking at that. Hey, I'm not looking at it right
now either, you fucking cheatingasshole.
Well, it's not cheating, it's just like we should be talking
about it together. So I will let you kind of decide
between the two. It's a hard choice because, you

(57:28):
know, I mean, I it is very difficult, I think.
And Jim Sturgis is like the faceof this movie, right?
And this kind of starts his his little his little career.
I mean, he had a little run. There, he did this.
He did. He did. 21 he did that Anne
Hathaway movie and I think he's still like, he still works.
It's not like he's well, I know nothing but.

(57:50):
I know he's not nothing, but he's not like he was.
I mean, at the time people were like, this is going to be like
one of the next guys. Yeah, Yeah.
And no, you know. But I mean, no, he like you
said, he's still consistently. Working.
He was a Geostorm in 2017, I mean.
He's still consistently working,so good for him.
But yeah, I think we got to go with.

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I think we got to go Max with. Joe Anderson, that's who I
prefer to go with. Joe Anderson to me is the person
that stands out every single time I've seen this movie as
like and that's that's while he's like in the midst of some
of the scenes I don't like. He is showing the the of the

(58:34):
era. He's embodying.
Yes, that's that's the era. He embodies the era in both the
positives and negatives in everysingle.
Way such a good foil to like thecalm, laid back kind of
portrayal of Jude. Yeah.
So I think, yeah, I think it's, I think it's a good choice.

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But for me, something we forgot to mention, for every Rachel
word, I want to give a shout outto this movie for having what I
call Titanic titty. Oh my gosh.
It's the PG13 movie that somehowmanages to get some titty in it.
This movie's got a lot because there's also, like, some butts.
And yeah, this movie got away with a lot.
Well because it had the nipple from far away wasn't a close up.

(59:18):
Ridiculous of the nip cares the nip.
God damn it. People don't like the nips
apparently. Hey, easy.
How you say that? That sounds bad.
Do you have a dumb question of the week?
I already asked it. What was it?
What food would you take to the gravesite?
No, no Robin Gibb of Robin Gibb.No, I, I I don't really have a a

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dumb question and. That's fair, you haven't been
very dumb on this episode. So.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you got to be engaged to
see, see what see what happens when like you actually have like
passion and conviction about something instead of being like
it was good. I'm also not that good of an
improviser for you to try to bait me, for me to come up with
a dumb question, it's not going to work.

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Oh my God, you finally realized,though, after almost 540
episodes of that you don't have to be pimped every fucking time
I do something. That's fair.
It's very, very good. I mean, this whole thing's been
around. Oh, I do have one rant.
What? Fuck off, stomp.
There's like that scene at the end, like in the end when we

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have like melodramatic Hey Jude and like there's a guy doing
like the stomp routine. Ridiculous.
Also it's the. It's the New York life.
Don't care. Also there's no butt fucking way
even from legitimate means they're going to let this guy

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back into the country after theyjust deported him for not being
for being here how long illegally?
Well, they don't know one. But still, I'm sure if you get
the port, it's not kidding like all right now you're on time
out. OK, now who?
Now who is watching a a bank robbery movie?

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I just. Said Make.
It make sense because banks thatcan differ from place to place
some places of dual. Control different places.
Some places of dual, we're not arguing about that.
Dual control everywhere. Look, no they don't.
I said they should. It was the 60s.
Immigration was a lot different.We're not going down this.

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Path, you're the one who broughtit up.
And I think there are a lot of people who work here illegally
and then got deported, then cameback in through legal means.
I don't think that's absurd at all.
Especially from England, a lot easier.
Speaking from experience, it's alot easier easy there.
You're already going to take away your citizenship speaking.

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From my family's experience because I am AUS.
Citizen Smooth. Smooth.
You know, to emigrate here was alot easier, you know, OK.
Fine. I'm just saying.
There, we'll let it. We'll allow it.
Anything else on Across the Universe?
You're a piece of shit, that's all.
Oh, extended musical performances and a deleted

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scene. Fire this back the fuck up.
The thing that bothers me so Bono is on the back of the box,
you know, he looks like he lookslike Boris the animal and men
in. Black does look like I thought
that. I thought that same thing.
He looked like Boris the animal.I thought that that was.
Like Bono the asshole. It's just Bono.

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Are you locking in your score ofan 8?
Yeah, I'm going to leave my score of an 8.
What are you raising your score to?
A. 3 1/2 I can't. Oh my God for.
No good. Oh it's too low, but I'm going
to raise it half of 1 it. Is I can't go A4, I can't
because if I look at what overall is a four for the year,
this is going to sound like the most ridiculous statement I've

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ever made in my entire life. You didn't like this more than
Charlotte's Web, because Charlotte's Web you gave a four.
No, I thought I like Charlotte'sWeb more.
Charlotte's Web at least makes sense.
And does it rest on? That's not true.
Yeah, Yes, it does. Also you.
Thought this was the same as La La Crocodile.
Same, I'd say I would watch La La Crocodile 100 times again

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before I'd watch this. Oh my God, at the very least,
every time I watch a little crocodile.
Maybe, just maybe, no. It's not going.
To change. Maybe, just maybe, constant slew
will get her back blown out by that crocodile.
You like this the same as American Hustle.
Yeah, I think that's the fairestcomparison we've made so far.
You like this less than date night?

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Yeah. You like this?
That's it, Yeah. All those things check out.
So I believe that it's going to average to be a 5.75 if I'm
doing my math directly, which isjust ludicrous.
But that's OK. That's that's that's.
Ludicrous from the perspective that it's too low.
Congratulations to this movie winning a Swaggy award.

(01:04:02):
Swaggy. We don't give those out.
Those are fucking worthless. Here's another thing about my
performance on this podcast and everything I'm feeling over the
past week. Everyone will know this.
I've done so much fucking work. Monotonous work around
Podswoggle and Merry with moviesepisodes that I'm sorry if I'm a
little my wires are crossed OK. It's gonna win a mullet award

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for sure. Thank you.
Next. Week The award is named after
you. How do you get that wrong?
Your name is Mullet. Next week we'll be talking about
Dungeons and Dragons Honor amongst thieves.
Stupid piece of. Then we have Glass Onion, Bro,
Jillian Stylist. Then we have gone baby gone.

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This is from our can't pick list.
The next time we get to our can't pick series, we will be in
October. So the October is going to work
is we are going to have a movie that I get to nominate next
week. We're going to be watching Hocus
Pocus too. And depending on what happens
with our random selection, we'regoing to have a random
selection. So we're going to do our normal
can't pick process. Whatever movie comes up is going

(01:05:10):
to be our November can't pick movie.
And the closest Halloween ish movie to the movie we select is
going to be our movie in October.
So Samantha, pull up the random number generator for me please.
And I need a number between 1 and 104.
I cleaned up the list recently. Oh wow.

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Whatever movie we select, if it is an actual Halloween movie, we
won't draw a second movie. Sounds sounds fair.
So OK ready. The number is 2920. 9 So
3330230130. 29 Wait on 3332313029 OK Oh boy, I don't

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know how we're going to fit thisin and on in November.
Oh great. 'Cause it's a series technically
now. It wasn't a series when we
started it. Oh no.
And. I don't think it's going to be a
judgement call on if this technically counts as a
Halloween movie. I would say no because it's not
horror. Doesn't have to be horror.
It's like monster adjacent. I honestly don't know if we're
going to have the time to watch it by the time we need to watch
it. So it's the modern Godzilla

(01:06:14):
franchise? Oh God.
So it's God. So the Aaron Taylor Johnson,
Bryan Cranston Godzilla movie, but there's since been multiple
Kong movies, which means we'd also have to watch the Kong
franchise. What are we sure we own them?
All. I'm pretty sure I've picked all
of them up on black. Friday, But why?

(01:06:35):
Because I've wanted to watch them.
So the the 2014 Godzilla movie has since been this is the first
in Legendary's monster verse franchise.
There have been six of these movies.
I'm sorry, five of these movies,Godzilla Kong Skull Island,
Godzilla King of the Monsters, Godzilla Versus Kong, and

(01:06:58):
Godzilla X Kong The New Empire. So we would technically have to
do all of those movies. I don't think we own them all.
I'm pretty sure we own them all.I'll check.
I'll check later. I'm checking right now we have a
list. I know we have a list, so we're
going to say that's going to be our November and beyond.
Can't pick franchise So what is the closest thing?

(01:07:19):
Godzilla Godzilla versus Kong Godzilla Times Kong the New
Empire. Godzilla King of Monsters.
What was the other one? Kong Skull Island.
Yeah, it's going to be a different section.
Yes, I know it's going to be a different section.
I know how to use the alphabet Sir.
The closest Halloween. Damn it, Chris.

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So this. Is somebody's got to stop you
from life? So the closest there's five away
is Halloween, which also be multiple movies, so the closest
single movie and the closest horror adjacent movie to
Godzilla that we will watch for October.
Keeping up the David Cronenberg theme of the past couple years,

(01:07:59):
They Live the Roddy Piper 1988 sci-fi action horror movie that
is just growing in popularity and cult status more and more
every day just because of the world that we live in.
So we'll be watching They Live in a few weeks time for

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Halloween. OK.
And also that's actually going to impact the movie that I
nominate because I was going to nominate a different David
Cronenberg movie. So I'll have to pick I'll have
to pick something else to put upagainst.
I'll have to go in upstairs and see what I'm what I'm selecting.
So They Live coming soon. 6 Godzilla in King Kong movies
coming soon Me a wild end of theyear.

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Not like we have anything going on at all.
Motherfucker. Maybe.
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Malt 38 on Instagram. Slide into my DMS, Samantha.
Jam with your Sam. You don't want people to slide
in your. DMS no you're no no.
Stay out my DMS. Slide in the Samantha's DMS VM
my DMS. That's weird.
I'm. Gonna monitor who's sliding in
your DMS? You don't need to monitor my
DMS. Who's sliding in your DMS then?
No, I send you funny videos. I send you funny, but I'm

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sliding in your DMS. Gross.
Better than siding in your BMS. That's a butt sex joke.
Are you done with the plugs? I wasn't listening for Mullet.
This is Mullet signing out for this week's episode of Married
With Movies. We'll catch you next time on our
couch slash the movies. The sheer amount of pain you had

(01:09:48):
on your face saying that. Like get me the fuck out of
here. I just don't want you to yell at
me for interrupting your plugs, which I do every week.
You've had a really, really hardweek, and this is by far
probably the best episode you'veever done on this podcast.
Oh great. It's good to know that even 11
years in you can get OK at something.

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