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September 22, 2025 26 mins

Matty is joined by Cooper Cronk to discuss Panthers machine & review Bulldogs' season. Plus they preview Walsh v Cleary Prelim Final showdown.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coops Penrith, mate, did you get back?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Did you get on them back in the door?

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I didn't, I was about to say, because I remember,
uh we here thirty one dollars. I remember one person
to make. There'll be there'll be a point in the
season where I should have backed him and I should
have walked out of here and backed him.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
But yeah, anyway, they are warm into this back end
of the season. They're doing all the right things. And
you think about the way they've won four comps in
a row. Is they've done it over their defense, good
completion rate and Nathan Cleary's king game and management. Right,
what did they do yesterday defensively so strong, really suffocated

(00:41):
the Dog's attack. Their first era came in like the
sixtieth minute or something, and Nathan Cleary dominated the game
again like they're just doing the fundamentals better than anyone
else at the right tom of the year, and the
Dogs were beaten up.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
They they didn't have their.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Best players there, but the coaching mass, the class and
the execution of the attack. I don't think I've seen
too many impressive performances this year.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Nathan and Ivan have done it again.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
The precision you said Cooper. Their attack was amazing and
you had to watch him, you know that, Just the
science they played with, it's so beautiful to watch. And
at the moment in a game which has become obsessed
with sequences and formations and shapes, nothing beats like a
clever drawing passport movement. And see yesterday, even if they
had a little sweep option rather than gave for the

(01:31):
cutout ball, it's ding ding ding ding ding through the hands. Great,
great to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
You and I are Rugby League nerds.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
And there's a couple of moments, Jesus, a couple of
moments from Nathan Cleary that you just have to marvel
at the forty twenty in the second half, he's on
the wrong side for a right foot, he shapes the
visics going to his left. That sends kind of Tracy
and Paul Rina Karma just didn't have any eyes for
Nathan just came back across and kicked the forty twenty.

(01:57):
The pastor tongue or the the slick rocketball that he
threw like that is yeah, that is just sending me
to perfect for the past ticket on the outside and
then the squareness for the top. I just loved that
eating over Play's hand when arrow straight created space to
lunge to do his thing. So there's a couple of
little moments not to me that people would pick up.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
That was part of the big storyline. It was Nathan's
performance that kick.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
We had Isaiah Katara on the show last night and
that's the what you just said there. He said like
a Heindy went just kicked it, and Isaiah Cantao goes, no, no, no,
You've got no idea how hard that was from that side.
And you watch it Coop just and we again use
the word science, but it wasn't. It was such a

(02:44):
slight banana, you know what I mean. He hit it
just just enough.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
It's all got to do with the hips.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
So he's facing in a direction with his hips that
says to kind of Tracy, I'm going to kick to
my left, and as the past comes kind of Tracy moves,
he actually just twists his hips back the other way
and kicks it straight and kind of trace. He couldn't
see it because he was on his bike.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Gun.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Now, Yeah, a couple of fellows. Yes, I give a
mention to Paul al Moti. Isn't he a big game player?
And you know, when Thomas Jenkins got dropped, I thought, boy,
that's a tough call. He's been so good and it
is a tough call. But Ala Moti man.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
So the recruitment of let's say, Ala Motty, Papoli and
Blaze Talmi have really added a point of difference to
what Peter have already done over the course of the last
four or five years. Ala Motty, he had a day out,
three tries ran for that's the point, right, So there's
just this inspiration for him to come out and say,

(03:39):
you know what, you probably should have backed me in
because I'm doing these type of things. And it was
a bit controversial when Jenkins was pretty good, like he
was playing Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I think you're there the player of the Brian.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Had a bit of an injury and got rested, and
Alamotti has just slipped in and got it done. But
there's one thing I wouldn't mind having to look at
is just we spoke about the attacking as the class
of Penrith using their big men on the edges. Now
going into the game, there's no Crichton. So what they
did they've made Galvin and sex And vulnerable because Jerry
and Burnon were either side. They put big men around

(04:13):
the halves and all of a sudden, the whole line holds. Look,
there's Isaiah Ball playing two passes wide. Sexton gets caught
in and they get the skill on the other side.
The way that they just change slightly their attack Nathan
Cleary to Isaoh and then a big man just they're
holding up kickout, just create space. And they did it
to the other side as well. Just the ability for

(04:36):
Nathan to know what plays he's got going straight, getting
the guys like Liam, Henry, Isaiao, Lindsay Smith, Papali just
on the edges around Galvin gets indecision and allows it
to unfold.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
The other one dog, Blaze Telangy. If we switched to
defense now, every time we've watched Blaze play through the
you start to see his progression. He's getting more comfortable
with the football, He's understanding his role, he understands how
to compliment Nathan. What really impressed me yesterday was his defense,
his decision making defense. Penrith really compressed their line, you know,

(05:11):
and they were inviting the dogs how to use the football,
and as you know, Coop, if you if you're going
to defend that tight. It does make you vulnerable and
you're relying sometimes on someone in the defense line to
make the right decision. Snuff it outside in. He did
it a couple of times yesterday a couple.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Of times, but then on the flip side press and
found him out a couple of times to him and
Casey McClain. Which we'll look into that preview with the
Panthers for the Broncos a little bit. But I think
the halves defense up against Rees s Walsh is going
to be crucial. There's an argument we're diving a bit later.
They should not let the ball get the Reswalsh outside
in defense often so rest doesn't get the ball.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, gotcha. Some of the performers Brian yesterday and
Yadie Jumbloo Moses Boy, he was fantastic. Dogs.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
What are you reading about the Dogs?

Speaker 3 (06:02):
The first halfway through the year climb a couple of
changes and it's.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Not all on the changes, but it had a lot
to do.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
It disrupted them. I mean they went for a tactical move,
they went to sort of mix things up. Look, they
thought they could have improve the side and improve the
attack more to the point, it just happened too quick.
In my opinion, they tried. They just tried to fast
track it too much.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I think if your DNA is defense and that's what
you're going to win your comp on, and you try
and improve the attack, don't lose your defensive mindset.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I think they.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I think they did by getting Galvin and moving them
around smaller guys. They lent more to finessing the play
looking for points as opposed to doubling down on their defense.
But in terms of the dogs they got next year
they win the comp is Galvin and burn your arms?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Or are you doing that?

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I I think one day Galvin could be seven, but
I don't think it's I still don't think it's in
the next year or two. I think it's going to
take more time cups. So you think he plays six,
I think he plays six.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
And then Burton where senters, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
What they do there. If I'll just talk like singularly
about Galvin, I think he's six.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I'm going to give Galvin a wrap for Yes. Today
he came up with some good players and attacking players.
We've seen that he isolated De Langeyan MacLean Preston got
through a couple of times. The first try that he
scored is beautiful ball playing down the shore.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's a very nice and nice little diversion.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
But I think he needs to improve in some of
the fundamentals as a half back. I think he can
play seven. I think if the Dogs are winning a competition,
I think Burton is their six. He's starting to flourish
into a big time player, and I think he needs
to be involved more than just getting the ball to
him and number thirteen could be it. But I think
Galvin can do it. He's just going to need a

(07:56):
lot of coaching, one around some of his kicks, decision,
but also defensively he cannot be highlighted. I think they
attacked him yesterday and they attacked sext and so he
needs to improve in that area. But I think Galvin
will eventually be a good seven in his competition.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
What do you think of the Suasan coips and just
quickly on that, isn't it funny? We just like a
season is so much about timing it as much as
you know. And all of a sudden he got Penrith
who were back at full strength and they're powering and
we saw a couple of sides in the Dogs and
we'll get to the Raiders a little bit later. But
the Raiders suddenly hit the wall, and that's what it happened.

(08:34):
Sometimes doesn't in it for whatever reason, just for two
gets into your bones.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, halfway through the year they made those changes and
defensively they started going south as a post to north.
I thought, as sue as Crichton was injured, they were
a long shot of stopping Pederith. If if the Dogs
would have beat Penrith, you need to look around the
change room and go, oh, there's Steven Crichton. He actually
knows what's about to happen. And I saw pregame he
was out there with the edge defense. He had the

(09:01):
headset on trying to coach the team through. So I
think if he plays, there are a much better chance
of shutting down Nathan and the attack because he is
the best center in the game, and he's got the
footy IQ to know when to rush outside in back
off a little bit. He would have helped Galvin a
hell of a lot yesterday. But in terms of season, look,

(09:21):
they've done a tremendous job the Dogs to go from
the bottom ladder to where they are they're a top
four team. They will be a top four team next year.
Tinker with their attack a little bit because they need
to be a more threat against those better defensive teams.
But just don't lose you to defensive DNA.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I totally agree Coop and Thompson coming helps.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Because some of those bigger teams feel they can go
through the dogs.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, you know you're talking. We're talking before about everything
being mixed up and there was such a focus on attack.
You've forgotten that first half of the season. The defense
was terrific yeap, but they made so fe a few errors,
you know, and to win on the weekend against Penrith,
it wasn't so much about reducing errors, it was about

(10:08):
eliminating But you know, at the start of the year, Coops,
when we reflect on their year, I remember, I'm not saying, Okay,
they're going to be they're going to be a top
four side. I think. I remember thinking to myself. Someone
asked me how they think they're going to go and
I said, if they can repeat what they did last
year get to the same place, I said, that's a
very good season. It's a very good suasan you know,
the competition it's just it gets more and more difficult

(10:29):
every year and it's hard to maintain.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
I say they're a top four team next year.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Defensively that they're pretty good and that's where they need
to get back to.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Eight out of ten agree with this best player Jacob Preston.
I thought he was good in Caras had the hell
of the year.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
I think you had to give kick out and Crichton
for moments. Yeah, like they they're going to do something
next year. Those two are their moment players.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Cranulla. They have reinvented themselves because we're talking about, like
I said on the show last night, every side you
have a like almost an identity, like if I or
something that sums them up. Look at Penrith, I say
in a precision Melbourne discipline when I always look at
the sharks within that comes to minds the nice guys

(11:17):
for the last two weeks, they're up the Andy, there's
talking tough and they're backing it up.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
They like it. Fitzgibben Heinz for Nola Blake. They're all
talking like there's this siege mentality. Caronla Versa the world
and sometimes that can be quite a good thing to
focus in on and get nasty and get tough and uncompromising.
I really liked what the Sharks did. I thought they
won the game with their goal on defense. The Raiders

(11:45):
had a lot of possession, dominated the good ball early on,
and yes krey Hawes was scored one try, but the
Sharks goal on defense was rock solid and in big games.
I'm not sure what the stats are, but when you
defend your goal line for a fair chunk in the
first twenty minutes and you don't let the opposition score
many points, you almost force the opposition into options three,

(12:08):
four and five, but they didn't plan to do and
it builds confidence because then you get down the other
end and they did it again two tries in five
minutes going to halftime like it was a very rock
solid performance. And to go to the Raiders and get
the job done, that's a dialed in performance, like.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
The late season surge from the Sharks. So there's a
couple of things here that powerful yardage combination Ronaldo and
Aden fanil Blake. Ronaldo gets the sets going, vanil Blake
finishes them off very very good yardish, mate key creative players.
Finally forming combination Nico and Trendle, but also Blake Brailey

(12:48):
and the other one is just great back rowers. They
have great back rowers, and I don't know any other
side in the competition that rely on their back rowers
more because if you watch them play, coops have a
tendency to drift sideways, but the back rowers they just
correct it.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Billy Burns is playing really well. He's keeping Nicker out
on the bench. Once you've got that back three front
rowers doing the damage. When Trindle and Niko Heines put
it together, that was They've played good games before, but
that was as a pairing.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
That was one of their best coops. And that's it.
Like they have do you know, Like I was talking
to Crazy Fits Given at the start of the year,
we're having a yarn about you know, Nico and Trendall
and the age i'd argument, which is who's running the show,
who's seven, who's six, and all that sort of stuff.
And Fitz he made a good point, he said, you know,
they've been together now a couple of seasons, but they
actually haven't played a lot of football together. You know,

(13:41):
there's been Trendle's there's been suspensions, there's been injuries, but
you can see them. Like I thought that the second
try they scored was the perfect example of how they've
formed combinations and they've identified each other's strengths and how
to compliment it and they you know, it was the
two pass was a two sequence play. They went down

(14:02):
down the left, Tremble told a little lie out the
back to Nico who sat and just put put him
I think it was Kiro down that left hand side.
And then the following play and that set up, Trindle
just took the ball, wandered across, trust himself inside ball,
you know, and heinz react and run.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
When you make a line break near the goal ande
the normal mindset of a half is pass past, get
to the extremities. But Trindle just went into run mode
and that forced Niko hein stopped thinking about passing the
ball to support player.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
And I liked that they. I like the Trindle controlled
the game like his kid. Game was good.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
But then Nico took his time and hit the scoreboard
when he needed to. And the one thing about Niko
is I'm going to give him a rap here, is
that he's a nice guy. He's a tremendous guy, right,
and he does a lot of work in the community
and things like that.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
But the fact that he's got this little bit of
arrogance telling everyone that.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Non shit in his river, that's good.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
He actually looks like he's playing an aggressive mindset and
it's actually making him run the ball direct north south
as opposed to east. Were So Nico keep doing it.
Big game for him against Melbourne Storm.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Blake Brayley, Jesus his elevation, not just his football, his leadership.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
I love through the week Coop. They asked him about Cronulla.
You know they're out there and you're proven the critics
wrong in the media. Well, if you're relying on media
for motivation, it's pretty empty motivation. I love. He said.
The other day he was talking about it and he said,
you know there's a bar over there that we all
sit together on mad Monday and have a beer and

(15:41):
reflect on the season. And he said, I said to
the players, no more of that. We don't want to
be there again. We want to be there on the
last day he's playing that.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
Well, I don't think he might be going on Kangaroo tour.
Harry Green is the number one, there's no doubt about that.
But there's a fair chance to get his passport already.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Raiders hoops. It was the big talking point going and
everyone was reflected and how much was that you that
previous game the Sunday before, how much was going to
weigh on them? And look, there was no doubt losing
Ethan Strange was a huge loss leading into the game
because he brings the energy and every time Kronulla had

(16:17):
sustained possession, you just saw him getting closer to hit
the wall. And I think that I think the point
where they really where you go, oh, they're gone. The
Billy Burns try where Billy just wandered across and it
was just it was the defense line that was just
on the ropes and at that point, Billy scores in
eighteen twelve. But you're watching the game and you got
they've got nothing left in the tank.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
They came out with a really good mindset camera they
were aggressive, They dominated the first period of time, and
they got some penalties and actually had the confidence to
go and score the try. So it showed that they
were going after the contest. But you're gonna have a
look at some vision about their goal line attack early
on and with no Ethan strange. I think they just

(16:59):
played two many short passes. One thing they'd look in
hindsight is they needed Kyo Weeks to move around the
field more so short passes starling here, just peppering there
for Young. I think you know, Jamal Foe, you played
a lot of short passes and it just played into.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
The hands here.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
They just keep layering off here and shutting down. Now
at this stage, the Sharks are getting confidence like it
doesn't matter what you throw at us, we are continue
to go along. Here. They scored a try through Corey Hawes,
but they just needed Jamel Fogey to combine with Hudson
Young and Kyle Weeks a little bit more than just
doing the short passes in and around the ruck, because
ultimately they didn't throw enough at the Sharks to make

(17:39):
them feel not comfortable.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
What do you think, susan eight and a half headed?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I'm giving them a nine and a half. They were good.
They were great. Actually they were more than good. They
were great. And if you give them the regular season
you are pushing ten because I don't think two people
saw them get the minor premiership. But they had to
win for week one. They have a shot at this title,
and they just didn't manage to check over at.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Last forteen minutes of regular time to to have that
time again because through it threw so much out, you know,
like Ricky quite rightfully so said, hang on a minute,
whether minor Premier is will to play on the Sunday
and to lose that game in a quick turnaround.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
I've been in their shoes and looking back on a
game that you probably should have won, you spend the
next three months analyze it in your own head. They
need to work out what happened in the final series
to make sure it doesn't happen again. And I think
Ricky Stewart will be looking at that deep.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
It interesting Storm versus Sharks. They's talk about the two
finals games and here we go and this gets spoken
about a lot the week off against the side that
is surging with momentum, and this is what we got
right here at the moment. Sharks are going to go
down there. They're super confident, they believe they can beat
the Melbourne Storm. First he does Jerome play Jerome Hughes. See,

(19:05):
it's not like a strain when you break, when you
break a wrist or when you break a bar. It's
either right or it's not.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I think like it's hard for us to comment without
knowing what's going on.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I think the only way.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Craig Belly works out if Jerome Hughes can play is
he has a heart to heart to his half back
and says can you play. If he looks him in
the eye and says I can do it, I'd pick him.
But there's moments in that Brisbane game where he came
back from the left shoulder. So he's got a left
shoulder injury. Now he's got a left wrist injury. The
way that he was protecting that shoulder, his technique changed

(19:40):
defensively and it led to him breaking his wrist. So
he needs to be able to handle himself defensively because
they know that he's got that injury on the left
hand side.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
So I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
The back rolls of the Sharks are going straight at
him and he needs to be able to defend.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
If he can do that, I pick him.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
What would you do? That's just what you said there,
you know, like the end of the day. Yeah, the
old thing. Look, I'm the doctor, thanks Scoot, But yeah
you're sitting have you yard him? It's you just you.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
I will say this in the Grand Fire, I played
with an injury. If everyone knew that I'd have broken scapula,
I don't think we win because they would have known
how about the injuries, and it would have just been
red flag to a bull.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Whereas soft whereas I think they know. Jerome Hughes got
a broken and a dodger left shoulder.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
So he's going to be targeted the balls in and
he needs.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
To be able to tackle Nelson training to be able
to handle what the sharks are coming in. Because if
I'm Craig fitz Gibbon, guess what I'm going to design
a play with Adam fanil Blake is running straight at
Jerome Hugh's.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Closer to Xavier Coats against the only Yeah, I think this.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Is something that the Melbourne Storre must do. Cameron Munster,
whenever you're on the fifth tackle, put the ball up
with Coats oppor chunity. Because Cartella got away with against
the Roosters. He had Daniel Tupa on him that week
and a couple of kicks just didn't find the spot.
So the tip to camera Monster is on the last play,
put the ball in the endle don't put it five

(21:05):
meters short, put it on the try line where the
cartel must jump. Because if it's a contest between those two,
I'm backing Coats every.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Day of the week.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Who wins.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I think the Storm at home. I think the Sharks
should be confident. I've got the.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Sharks going down there and making a huge game of it,
playing really well, good balance on their side. But I
think if the Storm can defend well, force the Sharks
halves into a bit of frustration.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
I think Monster and Hues are the key. I think
they can win the game. Come on, a couple of players.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Sunday at sun Corps Stadium could be one of the
great finals games. We've had some, We've had some beauty.
It's been a great final series so far. This one
is this could be, This could be something.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
If these two teams turn it on, which I expect
they do, the NL should seriously consider more Sunday afternoon
finals football Loveday. But what we have seen already this
final series versus the Broncos, Penrith versus the Dogs, if
Penrith versus the Brisom Broncos, and I'm just going to
break it down as Cleary versus Reese Walsh two of

(22:09):
the more influential players in our competition. If they can
turn on an absolute clinic for both of their teams,
we're going to be loving what happens on Sunday afternoon.
And I think, yeah, there's a lot of other players
that come into this, but I think the matchup between
those two is pretty key. Reese Walsh can be found
out on the last play. He can be found out

(22:30):
of position with kicks or running the ball, and I
know that Nathan will be doing his homework and it
will come up with a player to find Res Welsh out.
On the flip side, if you go back to the
twenty three Grand Final, there's one guy that's calls Nathan heartache. Defensively,
it's speed footwork of someone like Ree Walsh. So if
he gets the ball a couple of passes wide like
he's been doing, I think Rees Walsh could carve up

(22:52):
the Penrith Panthers. So on the flip side, I think
it's a game of chess. Reese needs to be in
every position on the fifth play, and if I'm Ivan
and Nathan, I'm going to try and wedge outside in
and do not let the ball get to Reese Walsh.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
They played a magic ground. Penrith won comfortably and in
that game, Nathan played gun barrel straight and they attacked
the right hand defense of the Broncos and they just
kept peeling them short all the time. That's where they'll
go again.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
And on the flip side, we saw what Preston did yesterday.
Adam Reynolds will be back in that right side of Reynolds.
Jordan Ricky Catoni stags with the threat of Ree Swalsh
out the back. If Casey McLean was worried about Connor Tracy,
I'll tell you what, he's going to be super worried
about Rees Walch. So I think if the Broncos win

(23:42):
this game, they're going to be targeting the left edge
of Penrith and Adam Reynolds needs to get Reese Walsh
the ball in the best possible position because you don't
get too many chances against Penrith. They're a great defensive team.
But if there is an error, if there is a penalty,
if there is a repeat set, Adam Reynolds needs to
strike and Res Welsh needs a big guy that delivers

(24:03):
it too.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Madge deserves a lot of a lot of credit I
can see just the way he's adjusted some of his
coaching philosophies in the way they attack. Like I always
say to people, there is a difference between Queensland football
and the way we play down here. There's just a
few different things. And I think the DNA of the
Broncos is like it's attacking, fulfilled ball movement, and Madge,

(24:28):
like historically he has always been a coach, is very
much about exits and those But I can see in
the back half of this year he's just relaxed the attack.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
Adam Reynolds comes straight back in for you. Yeah, Azra man,
what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Fourteen? Yeah? I play. I played fourteen because I think
the combination of Ezra and Rhys Walsh is it could
be dynamite. He could win this game. Just keep Ezra
out of the early exchanges.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
One percent. I agree Ben Hunt starts at six. Corey
Paks will probably start at nine. When he gets tied
after maybe thirty minutes, even if it's fifty five minutes,
Hunt into dummy half, bring Ezra on and run the ball.
Don't even look to pass the ball, run the ball.
I think if he starts at five, I saw what
he did that ten minute period in the Grand Final.

(25:15):
I think he needs to be fresh. And if there's
one thing that worries penis defensive line, it's speed, footwork
and athleticism. Reese Walsh is going to be targeted. And
if it comes down to a sunny afternoon at sun
Court and Reese Walsh is being covered, bring Ezra Meymon
and say run.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
The ball out of the who wins Coops? I'm going
Penrith from the moment they established themselves in the eight
this is the team.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
So I could mount a case for both teams here,
I really could. I like seeing great teams become greater,
so I really want to see Penrith go on and
I would love that right. But there is something that
tells me Brisbane get this done.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Maybe Brisbane just have Penrith have a flat spot when
they just didn't want it. I think Sunday afternoon. This
could be anything. It might be longer than eighty minutes.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Prisoner went by Ceps
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