July 7, 2025 • 26 mins
The guys preview Origin III, chat about Dogs Dilemmas, Raiders On A Roll & Elite Emerging Talent.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
A lot to get through today we're going to talk.
I mean, I want to talk about the Tigers and
the faint New Brothers and how good they were, and
I want to talk about the Bulldogs. But we've got
a lot to get through. We'll start with Origin. But
before we start, want to send out deepest condolences once
akin to the Monster family. The passing of Cameron's dad,
Steven Thoughts. Some prayers with the family. Awful time.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, it is, and you know, condolences to the family
and it just puts into perspective. I know we carry
on about rugby league, but moments like this it just
puts it. You know, the family and all those things
are way more important. So your best wishes to the
Monster family. But in terms of that game, Maddie, like
Origin decider New South Wales home ground. Three things that
(00:48):
New South Wales must do, I'll do three things Queensland
to do. Right, So if Queensland are to win, I
think they must do one. They can't let Latrell Mitchell
and Stephen Cricht get early effect ball. I just in
the game two when they'll come in every time they
touch the ball, it looked like something was happening so
I think for Queensland to win this they need to defend.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Their life depends on it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
But those two centers cannot get early effective ball. Second thing,
I think queens they need to get to the front.
I think if this school board ticks over and they're behind,
I'm worried they're not going to be able to chase
down the points.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Because alternally, you know, you know yourself when you go
into a game as a red hot favorite, something you're
finding yourself behind.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
School board pressure comes in to play.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It does, and the attack of New South Wales looks
like you can chase down points. So I think queens
they need to get at the front. And the other
thing too is the talking point out of game two
was Monthster in his leadership. I think Queensland need another
all star player. All eyes are going to be on Cameron.
New South Wales defensively will stop him from running the football.
(01:53):
I think Harry Grant needs to be the main man.
Someone else needs to win the game for Queensland and Monster.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yep, okay, well then we're coops.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We're very very similar here because my number one thing,
get clear an early ball to Latrell and Crichton, right,
because they're up against Shibasaki and Toyer, who look and
they're having It's a great story both of them, and
they're players on the up. Subersarkis would have been here, there,
and everywhere, but he's finding himself now. It's a great field,
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good story selection, but it's a big risk from Billy
and because super Psarch and Toyer aren't in the same
postcode with Trell and Crichton when it comes to dueling
with high pressure football and if they can get If
I'm Nathan, I want to get the ball to them
early so they can, you know, so against Altoya or Subosarki,
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they can sort of shove them off, you know, like
put a dent in them early and affect their confidence.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Their first tackle on their centers need to be the
best tackle ever. If Latrell or Stephen fend off their
opposite center is going to give them a lot of confidence.
It's going to give Nathan and Jero more reason to
go there. So they need to stop them from where
it go.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The second one is not so much tactical.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's that we have to have Nathan Cleary close enough
to one hundred percent that he can do all aspects
of our kicking. Now, I don't even care Coop if
he's if I'm Laurie, I'll be half tempted to say, listen,
let's not worry about your goalkicking, right, Let's leave that
to either Zach or Stephen Crichton.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I just need you to control every bit.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, Yard is kicking, mate, everything from fifty out mate,
those dead ball bombs, everything I think is just crucially important.
And the other one kicks as well.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The yardage game is so good. He needs to put
that ten out of ten yardage game and make it
a ten out of ten kick. You can't miss the
back end of that advantage.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
That's it attacking attacking kicks. I mean, you're controlling the contest.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And the last one we said about Monster and Coops.
You know Monster bed the ninety nine point nine to
nine percent of the people right, And as I said before,
it is not to bring something you know with you
know what he's going through at the moment, back to
a petty game of football, but you just know inside
of him, I just know he's going to bring something special.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And so for Munster, well, New South.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Wales have to discourage Cameron from wanting to run the football.
Now that's very, very hard to do. But the first
thing you must do is not present visual opportunity. If
there's a player in the line that a little bit fatigue,
if the spacing is not right, any of those cues,
he's just going to go.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I say this with respect with what Cameron's going through
at the moment, like football is not that important.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But he's one of the few people that can actually
deal with it.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, yes, you you just know those three things
hapen for New South Wales, three things I said for Queensland.
What's your headline when we Thursday morning we're speaking about it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
What do you think is a thing? I'll say this.
I think Queensland winning a gold in Golden.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Point Valentine Holmes kicks it. Now, we've only had two
other Golden points one in New South Well. I was
one of Queensland four five. I think this will be
the third and I think Vale Holmes is the guy
that can kick it from anywhere.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I think the two best players on the field would
be Nathan Cleary and Isaiah So the headline to still
line from Rocky it's going to be Yo, Nathan.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You're hands Do you think Nathan dominates this.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, I think, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I think it's I think if he's close enough to
one hundred percent, Coop, I think it's it's his time yep.
And he's back at he's playing at the ground where
he's had he has won so many big games, so
many big mem and you know, it's like when you
get out there and you won your favorite grounds, it
just feels different.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
So in terms of the score and everything, you've got
Nathan man of mates.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You have ye what are they.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Twenty eight eight and I've got paying Asses, Wally Lewis medal.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's that's hard to go past. Brilliant.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm going to go Queensland obviously. Seven twenty six I
got Harry Grant Man of the match yep.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But Months will take the medal.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That'll be his fourteenth thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah four.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He had him in your top ten Origin players by.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And still do Coop.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I maintain that, uh, Coyo weeks Man well well last
year Zach Lomax was the most improved player on the competition,
but Coyo by far this year.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But if they gave out those league ratings again, that's
a ten out of ten sure is like and that
was the point of difference.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
The fire power that those energy outside backs had.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
For Camerak Weeks like one.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Run, I think he had like eight or nine tackle
bus just the physicality just bump, hit, bounce. I think
it was Daman Cook to try to hit him, and
just the ability to.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Bait break tackles and the leg speed too, like he was.
He was phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Actually look at it here.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, it was like beat one two, boot three, Hang on,
look at this four.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah that's the one in the second half.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, that's a mighty effort.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And when you've got like the conductor and Jamal Fogey
who's good game manager, experienced head, but not a game
breaker himself. The fact that you've got Ethan's strange on
one side, then you've got Ko Weeks now doing what
they're doing. That's why they're an attacking machine, because they've
got some smarts, but then just some young enthusiasm that
just takes on the game.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That'so interesting coups when you're spilled out like that, Because
let's go back and have a think about your twenty
seventeen in Grand Final winning site. So you're playing the
FOGGETI role, you're controlling the whole field, and he got
Slater and he got Monster. A lot of similarities, similar
to Broncos with Adam Reynolds and they've got Rees Walsh
and Azra Ma.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'm doing a thing like you.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Defense are so good these days you need something to
break him over and as a half you struggle to
create the extra number. Now in attack it's almost like
you create one on ones. We're talking about Queensland, right
Like if New South Wales get one on one ball
for their centers, that's that's that's an advantage of itself.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Just we're on kaya.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
The general belief has been in there is not enough
depth in the competition for expansion.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'll contest that. I think if we haven't got enough,
I think the next couple of years we're going to
have a mile of it. I just want to run
you through it. I'm just thinking about Kyo and some
of the young players in the game.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I've done a list year.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I just kept writing and this is only about really
half of the young guys that exist in the game.
And I've written here Stephen Crichton as well, Steve Kroutch.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
He's twenty four and Reece.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Walsh and those guys they're probably you don't class and
his young players. But Bay Haywood during Buller, the Fine
New Brothers, good were they young, seam Healley coming through
the Warriors, Max Plaith, King, Tanya Halasuma, Vaymonga, Mate, Mate Nicholson,
Ethan Strange, Galvin Da Silva. Then you go, mate, know
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all the ones Owen Patty, Mariatta, Fletcher Sharp, Young, Thomas Casey, McClain,
Blaze and Jason Purdue, Zavie Willison, made Lehi Hopawadi.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
It just goes, I've never.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Anyone else, anyone else.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I was just I was in a frenzy then, but
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
There. I can't remember a time in my watching the game.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
There has been so many outstanding youngsters just under sitting
under twenty three years of age.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And give the young kids a rap, there's no doubt.
But I think the other part their coaches need a
big rap too, because good coaches make average players good YEP,
good players great and great elite. Right, So the question
is around expansion.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I believe you.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I think there is enough talent, but they need to
get the right coaches of the right positions, because then
you will get an influx of improvement of those players.
All of a sudden, someone that came to a club
not even on the radar starts playing football, starts playing
consistent football. Then we're going, you know what, this guy
can play origin And that's the difference between it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
If we got enough great coaches and enough great playmakers,
we've got enough play You got.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Enough agree with what I agree with?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Just having to.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Look around here, because let's get onto train spotting for
a second.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You got something for him?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, So it's talking about k weeks and the camera side, right.
It was twenty eight twenty four with two and a
half minutes to go, and this is the evolution that
Camber and some young spine need to get to. If
they're going to win a camp, they need to understand
the context of the game. So two and a half minutes
to go, up by four, Ethan Strange gets more. On
fifth play, he runs the ball. Now, every queue said
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for him to run, yep, but he's throwing the ball
out the back here and Jamal Foger gets it. Turnover. Yeah,
go chat now, if he didn't run it or stepped
off his left and then kicked in the corner. That's
twenty meters closer away from the trail line. This is
the fifth play game on the line, and the Dragons
get an attacking kick. Now, the run was actually the
right call, right. I get why he saw it because
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he saw space and everything, but at some stage you
had to stop and kick it in the back corner
because that twenty meter difference with two and a half
to go in a tight game is everything you need
to either win or lose. Now that kick ends up
being thirty five meters out. All they've actually they probably
don't even put him to take and kick in. They
shift the ball around and then you shut it down.
But the fact that they got to that field position
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should never have happened.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Isn't like just go the simple option that the way
he come off the left, it's brilliant and it's exciting, but.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
He's got the mindset of the first ten minutes. He
was close to the ruck, saw that the pressure was coming,
so stepped off. What he needs to do take a
deep step, know that the kick is number one, number
two and number three option with his time on the clock.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I've done on the kicking situation. It's not really a
trainsport of stuff. But mate Jamal Foggley put a tall
peeo bomber the other night. It's one of.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
The very best off seeing.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, I agree with you it was.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It was a hum dinger.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Here it is and just to see why it does,
rips off the burt and you go, it's this one
sweet and so yeah, we're talking about how it turns
over and that's when you know, mate Gatho was in
all sorts.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So to give people a bit of an insight, if
a torpedo turns on top of the ball, if for
some reason spins away and it gets violent on the
way down, if it doesn't turn over the top one
of his access it's actually reasonably okay to catch. But
those players that you know in my day English could
do it. Lucky you could do it. Matt Burton can
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do it when you kick a torpedo. But that is
easily in the top bracket of torpedo bombs i've seen.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Let's talk about three of the as young people say,
the ogs of the torpedo bomb. Firstly and will work
like there was Joey of course, and Joey got the idea.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
There was a guy who used to be paid by.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Ada Das and his name was what was it It
was Dave Aldret and he used to do Johnny Wilkinson
and made as you played for the Minnesota and he said,
there is a there is a scientific equation for torpedo bomb.
He said, pitcher a clock in front of you, You
point the point of the ball at eleven o'clock and
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your body at one, and it will talk.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
And Joey always.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Took it wraps off the side of your boot basically,
so the ball will spin off its access yep, on
the side of the boot.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That that game there was interesting put Joey mate. He
just he tortured Clinton Chakowski in that game. And it
wasn't Clinton's fault in the fact that we just saw
with Gutho if if.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
A kick and nails a trpe doo bomb, sometimes it's
just uncatchable. You can't get them.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But we when we went across at Newcastle used to
have to go across the main road to a park
and warm up, so Brian Smith used to light the
mind games. So we've gone across the warm up and
he's already taken our walnut spot and it was only
him and Clinton and Brian Smith himself is putting these.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Lolli bombs up.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Anyway, Clinton kept dropping it, and Joey's watching right and
he's watching.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I'm going, oh no, this is going to be back,
and Joey goes all day said stay good mine. Ricky Stewart.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Ricky Stewart one of the originals, and mate, if we
go back. It was the nineteen ninety Major semi final
and it's Canbra at the City Football Stadium and they're
playing the Broncos Coops, and I went, what's the warm up?
You know, watching that great Green machine, watching mal and.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You know, Gary Belcher, Steve Waller is just lazo, all
of them was.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And Ricky is warming up and he's hitting these torpedoes. Honestly,
it was like they were getting spat out of a machine.
They were just perfect. They were beautiful to look at.
And yeah, when some of those big games when he
just cracked them down in Canberra that or something. But
the one that really comes to mind, I reckon the
best of the lot was Andrew Walker.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Andrew Walker is the best.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
When he is the best at these torpee bombs made.
He used to hit them sometimes and I remember Rabs
one night he's playing first.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It just it completely went out of shot. He could
hit him more, He could have hit him so sweet
and better than anyone I can.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I can remember this.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Angle here for people to just see how the balls
on the angle and s wrapping around the outside of
the foot. The other thing too about the torpedo bombs
is I never could get it to turn over, so
I had to find another way. That's why the float
to bomb came into play. Nathan Cleary does it too.
Reynolds is probably more of a floatter bomb too, So
if you can't get that over, the best one is
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to do.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
The flator bomb even more does yeah, if.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You get it right. But there's a lot of risk
in that.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
One full park four point is parked.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yesterday there was a Volvo promotion. Honestly, you are ruthless.
You have fingers under me and pies and now it
was ten grand for anyone.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
You can kick it and put it through the sun
roof strake.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Look at that.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
The only time you've been cheated proofar Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I actually had booze before it did this, and then
there was some.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Cheers up, so you were drinking. It was in booze and.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I got the ten grand cash too.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
By the way, look at that Volvo Mossman. Ah, you're
the best there. He is the great beaver.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Now, Coops, we want to do, I want to get
I'll get some great vision for you now in focus tonight.
Last night on the show we had one of my heroes,
the great Englishman Gary Scofield Scowey.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
If you look at some of his highlights, they were insane.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He was nicknamed the poacher. I've rarely seen a tri
scorer like it, just amazing. He had short stints in Australia.
Played for bal Main forty seven games, played nine games
for the West Hull. He played one hundred and twenty
two games, one hundred and seven tries played for Ludes,
two hundred and fifty games if five hundred and two
club games five and two club games yep. Five hundred
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and fifty one if you include tests, most cap Great
Britain player and youngest. He debuted for Great Britain at seventeen,
toured Australia at eighting amazing.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
But he left his best, Coops, he left his best.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
When he played the Kangaroos. He was, in my opinion,
he fired English rugbya league in the fact that they'd
always he was Australia and ELLERI Henley were Australia's worst
nightmares because they didn't play like Australians. They played in
English style. You know, Scoey would chip over the top
of early tackles.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Genius.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
The way he ball played was unorthodox and so different,
and yeah, he was amazing numerous amount of the matches
against Australia, won a Golden Boot one year.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So in terms of Schofilm, is he the best to
ever done it?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Coops, I think looks.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I would put him as one of the greatest English players.
As far as the impact in Australia, he had a
huge impact. But if I go through, if we go
through our top five, he doesn't sit there because these
other guys had a longest stay and one competition. So
if I go through my top five Englishman as far
as impact, my number one is Ellery Hanley. Not a
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long stay with the Tigers, but I can't remember a
player who had an impact like Hanley. Amazing Number two
mile old coach Malcolm. Really, I've got some visionary to
come back to Malcolm, which you're you quite enjoy or
maybe you want Sam Burgess number three says like the
Sam's down at number three given what he achieved at
number four. Of going Adrian Morley, I thought Moz was
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amazing and for five and got three. The tide have
gone to James Graham, the great, Johnny Gray and Tommy
Bishop what he did at Cranulla. But if we go
back to Malcolm really, like Malcolm was our coach at
Newcastle and me and Scowey were talking about him last night.
Malcolm coach Gary at Test level and also at Leeds
and he was just saying, mate, we're talking about what
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a competitor he was. But Malcolm was the guy he
never talked tough like you know, he was an amazingly
tough player. And it's funny yesterday was South against Manly
fifty three years almost to the day, was they say
the most brutal fight that ever ever took place on
a rugby league field. It was Malcolm against George Piggins
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where they basically got at redfernaval and head butter at
each other for two minutes.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Like it was heramdous. Two of the toughest guys that
have raced the pitch.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
But Malcolm one of the things he used to do
when we'd have a few beers, he'd sometimes pull someone
and say, come on, cook, let's have an arm wrestle.
And he was famous for it and no one's ever
beaten him. Right, So we're playing guys who want to
here and let's get fantastic. I just want to dance, guys, anyway,
I've got firing. I want to dance.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
So we play. We play a game.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So at the end of the normal round, we play
Adelaide Rams and then we all.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Go for a few beers.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The next week, we're at the semi finals and he
pulls over Steve crowe He says, come on, Crowy, let's go.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Let's have an arm wrestle.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
But Malcolm McCoo beats him, and Crowey says, I tell it,
old man, I'd love to get I'd get you in
the ring one day and it'll be a lot different. Well,
Malcolm's eyes lit up and he reading the strength of addition,
and he said, listen the field session, cancel that we're
going to give the boxing ring. Right, So this is finals,
This is this is the week leading into the finals. Now,
if you talk about player welfare right and how your
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coaches have to be careful around their players. It was
captured when we turned up there. The NBN news crew
were there. Let's have a little look at what happened.
So this is the coach, the coach and he and
one of his forwards. There's Chief trying to break him up.
And yeah, that's what Benji and Dewey and it just
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went on and on and on, and I remember one
I think Malcolm asked the news crew can you just
remove that last bit because Malcolm, whatever it takes. And
Crowe said when he got into the fight, he said,
I realized that to stop this bloke.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I'm going to need a gun.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So Malcolm had him in the corner towards the end
there and he's literally going bang bang and hit him
with elbows.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Now that is leading to a semi final game.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
That's good vision.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
They wouldn't needed a gun because I think what they
were doing is just getting warmed up.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
For the blake that was throwing some other punches. This
guy that look at that. They were just warming up.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Just just quickly learn less. Make Tigers.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Brothers yesterday were fantastic, mate. You know, Latu was brilliant
with his ballplane. I love some of the stuff he did.
The young hooker right of course, happy injured or h
I a sorry he missed a week. Tell him silver
has left the club of Tristan Hope. I'll tell you
what yesterday he made.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
He was terrific. There's a lot of Mitch Kenny around
around try.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Right, yeah, yeah, I will say this Benji Marshall, and
they are playing for Benji said after the game, He's
put a lot of faith.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
In some guys that need to deliver.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Because Latou Fainty the week before against Manly struggled for points,
struggled kicking game. What drome Leui for to be half back?
So Benji Marshall is under bit of pressure. That's a
good win. But these guys need to stand up for
their coach otherwise he's going to be under more pressure.
But Feinu brothers great story, but they need to get consistency,
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particularly Lart win his ball playing because the week before
against Manly ineffective. Against the Rooster's running the ball, strong body,
strong carry. That's his blueprint and it's just going to
be interesting to see how him and Lui play because
it looks as though Benji is moving lew Eye at
number six, so he doesn't lose his creativity.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, he struggled with that balance. Yeah, yes, it'll be
interesting to see what he does once Origin's over.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, young Tristan, I said, terrific young player. Scotty just
in here said he's actually twenty eight anyway, mate.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Scotty is young in spirit. That's the most important thing.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
A lot of research.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, killing now made the Dogs. Yeah, the puzzle coop.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It's still because of the fact that Crichton was an
origin Burton to left Santa, which means.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But there is no argument here, right you agree?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, no doubt. Okay, who's seven? Then?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Who's seven for the rest of this season? Is it
Galvin or is it Sexton? I think it's Sexton. I
think Galvin is a fourteen for the rest.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Of this season.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, I can't argue with that.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Picking it apart, the Dogs are in a good spot,
the best defensive team we have in the competition, and
the threats of Crichton kick our. Jacob Preston's a threat, Cherry.
You know Burton, you don't need a truly dominant threat
with a number seven. You've got enough points in and
around them. Right, Galvin will be a very very good player.
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He will. He will be a rock solid play for
our competition. But there's just moments in hes ball playing
that he doesn't understand the context of game.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
So when he's chasing points, he's.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Actually way more effective because he moves around freely. But
then sometimes he chooses to run the ball on last
player supposed to kicking. And there's only ways you can
learn that. He's what two years into his career. You
only learn that through experience, time and repetition. Now, if
they get to a prelim final and it comes down
to controling a game, Matt Burn's going to have to
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do a lot of the heavy lifting.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You use it something in commentary. I forget the words
it was. He was just pushing the for he used
to a better term, And I think a little bit
that's almost internal or personal pressure he's putting himself. You
see that with ballplayers when they have these certain expectations
of pressure on themselves, they're always trying to throw that
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absolute big pass.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Now, you don't want to take that out of Galvan. Right,
there's natural ball playing which is going to help him
in five years time, So you don't want to cut
that off. What you want to do is just expose
him to other areas of experience like Ethan Strange did.
That is exactly what I'm talking about. If he just
takes three steps back and kicks the ball in that corner,
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they're not on the threat in their last play and
Galvin's got a little bit of that learning to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
The Bulldogs might play the Raiders in a big game.
You're gonna have Jamal Foger who will take over that
kicking decision making at the back end of the game. Now,
Ken Loachlan Galvin do. I'm not saying Tobe Sex and Ken,
but what I'm saying is a lot will have to
be put on Burton, yes, but Galvin will.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Be a good playoff.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Does play fourteen. That's his role for the rest of
this season.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
But then you've got Bailey, Hayward and Reid Maney there.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
That's right, because then you've got if you put Galvin
and Bailey on the bench, you're gonna have Kurt Man,
you might have Josh Karen on the bench, and all
of a sudden you come up against Penrith Broncos storm
with big packs. They're centralizing their attack, going to chew
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up that smaller man in the middle. So it'll be
interesting to see.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Why they do that.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
There's so many ball handlers.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
And smaller bodies now you watch the way they play.
Their line speed is the best thing, and it's because
they're small bodies that have leg speed, right. But if
they get quick rock speed against them, their big bodies
won't be able to stop paying us.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh they're smaller bodies, so they won't be able to
stop paying us.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But instting dilemma, they're going to need more than one
ball on the field for all that there.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, I think Sexton gets it.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I just don't know whether you know you can fit
Reed Marney, Bailey, Hayward, Kurtman, and Galban altogether
A lot to get through today we're going to talk.
I mean, I want to talk about the Tigers and
the faint New Brothers and how good they were, and
I want to talk about the Bulldogs. But we've got
a lot to get through. We'll start with Origin. But
before we start, want to send out deepest condolences once
akin to the Monster family. The passing of Cameron's dad,
Steven Thoughts. Some prayers with the family. Awful time.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, it is, and you know, condolences to the family
and it just puts into perspective. I know we carry
on about rugby league, but moments like this it just
puts it. You know, the family and all those things
are way more important. So your best wishes to the
Monster family. But in terms of that game, Maddie, like
Origin decider New South Wales home ground. Three things that
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New South Wales must do, I'll do three things Queensland
to do. Right, So if Queensland are to win, I
think they must do one. They can't let Latrell Mitchell
and Stephen Cricht get early effect ball. I just in
the game two when they'll come in every time they
touch the ball, it looked like something was happening so
I think for Queensland to win this they need to defend.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Their life depends on it.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
But those two centers cannot get early effective ball. Second thing,
I think queens they need to get to the front.
I think if this school board ticks over and they're behind,
I'm worried they're not going to be able to chase
down the points.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Because alternally, you know, you know yourself when you go
into a game as a red hot favorite, something you're
finding yourself behind.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
School board pressure comes in to play.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
It does, and the attack of New South Wales looks
like you can chase down points. So I think queens
they need to get at the front. And the other
thing too is the talking point out of game two
was Monthster in his leadership. I think Queensland need another
all star player. All eyes are going to be on Cameron.
New South Wales defensively will stop him from running the football.
(01:53):
I think Harry Grant needs to be the main man.
Someone else needs to win the game for Queensland and Monster.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yep, okay, well then we're coops.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
We're very very similar here because my number one thing,
get clear an early ball to Latrell and Crichton, right,
because they're up against Shibasaki and Toyer, who look and
they're having It's a great story both of them, and
they're players on the up. Subersarkis would have been here, there,
and everywhere, but he's finding himself now. It's a great field,
(02:24):
good story selection, but it's a big risk from Billy
and because super Psarch and Toyer aren't in the same
postcode with Trell and Crichton when it comes to dueling
with high pressure football and if they can get If
I'm Nathan, I want to get the ball to them
early so they can, you know, so against Altoya or Subosarki,
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they can sort of shove them off, you know, like
put a dent in them early and affect their confidence.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Their first tackle on their centers need to be the
best tackle ever. If Latrell or Stephen fend off their
opposite center is going to give them a lot of confidence.
It's going to give Nathan and Jero more reason to
go there. So they need to stop them from where
it go.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
The second one is not so much tactical.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's that we have to have Nathan Cleary close enough
to one hundred percent that he can do all aspects
of our kicking. Now, I don't even care Coop if
he's if I'm Laurie, I'll be half tempted to say, listen,
let's not worry about your goalkicking, right, Let's leave that
to either Zach or Stephen Crichton.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I just need you to control every bit.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, Yard is kicking, mate, everything from fifty out mate,
those dead ball bombs, everything I think is just crucially important.
And the other one kicks as well.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The yardage game is so good. He needs to put
that ten out of ten yardage game and make it
a ten out of ten kick. You can't miss the
back end of that advantage.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
That's it attacking attacking kicks. I mean, you're controlling the contest.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
And the last one we said about Monster and Coops.
You know Monster bed the ninety nine point nine to
nine percent of the people right, And as I said before,
it is not to bring something you know with you
know what he's going through at the moment, back to
a petty game of football, but you just know inside
of him, I just know he's going to bring something special.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
And so for Munster, well, New South.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Wales have to discourage Cameron from wanting to run the football.
Now that's very, very hard to do. But the first
thing you must do is not present visual opportunity. If
there's a player in the line that a little bit fatigue,
if the spacing is not right, any of those cues,
he's just going to go.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I say this with respect with what Cameron's going through
at the moment, like football is not that important.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
But he's one of the few people that can actually
deal with it.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I mean, yes, you you just know those three things
hapen for New South Wales, three things I said for Queensland.
What's your headline when we Thursday morning we're speaking about it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
What do you think is a thing? I'll say this.
I think Queensland winning a gold in Golden.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Point Valentine Holmes kicks it. Now, we've only had two
other Golden points one in New South Well. I was
one of Queensland four five. I think this will be
the third and I think Vale Holmes is the guy
that can kick it from anywhere.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I think the two best players on the field would
be Nathan Cleary and Isaiah So the headline to still
line from Rocky it's going to be Yo, Nathan.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
You're hands Do you think Nathan dominates this.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah, I think, yeah, I do.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I think it's I think if he's close enough to
one hundred percent, Coop, I think it's it's his time yep.
And he's back at he's playing at the ground where
he's had he has won so many big games, so
many big mem and you know, it's like when you
get out there and you won your favorite grounds, it
just feels different.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
So in terms of the score and everything, you've got
Nathan man of mates.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You have ye what are they.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Twenty eight eight and I've got paying Asses, Wally Lewis medal.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's that's hard to go past. Brilliant.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
I'm going to go Queensland obviously. Seven twenty six I
got Harry Grant Man of the match yep.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But Months will take the medal.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That'll be his fourteenth thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah four.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
He had him in your top ten Origin players by.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And still do Coop.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I maintain that, uh, Coyo weeks Man well well last
year Zach Lomax was the most improved player on the competition,
but Coyo by far this year.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But if they gave out those league ratings again, that's
a ten out of ten sure is like and that
was the point of difference.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
The fire power that those energy outside backs had.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
For Camerak Weeks like one.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Run, I think he had like eight or nine tackle
bus just the physicality just bump, hit, bounce. I think
it was Daman Cook to try to hit him, and
just the ability to.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Bait break tackles and the leg speed too, like he was.
He was phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Actually look at it here.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, it was like beat one two, boot three, Hang on,
look at this four.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Yeah that's the one in the second half.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, that's a mighty effort.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And when you've got like the conductor and Jamal Fogey
who's good game manager, experienced head, but not a game
breaker himself. The fact that you've got Ethan's strange on
one side, then you've got Ko Weeks now doing what
they're doing. That's why they're an attacking machine, because they've
got some smarts, but then just some young enthusiasm that
just takes on the game.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That'so interesting coups when you're spilled out like that, Because
let's go back and have a think about your twenty
seventeen in Grand Final winning site. So you're playing the
FOGGETI role, you're controlling the whole field, and he got
Slater and he got Monster. A lot of similarities, similar
to Broncos with Adam Reynolds and they've got Rees Walsh
and Azra Ma.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I'm doing a thing like you.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Defense are so good these days you need something to
break him over and as a half you struggle to
create the extra number. Now in attack it's almost like
you create one on ones. We're talking about Queensland, right
Like if New South Wales get one on one ball
for their centers, that's that's that's an advantage of itself.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Just we're on kaya.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
The general belief has been in there is not enough
depth in the competition for expansion.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'll contest that. I think if we haven't got enough,
I think the next couple of years we're going to
have a mile of it. I just want to run
you through it. I'm just thinking about Kyo and some
of the young players in the game.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I've done a list year.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
I just kept writing and this is only about really
half of the young guys that exist in the game.
And I've written here Stephen Crichton as well, Steve Kroutch.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
He's twenty four and Reece.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Walsh and those guys they're probably you don't class and
his young players. But Bay Haywood during Buller, the Fine
New Brothers, good were they young, seam Healley coming through
the Warriors, Max Plaith, King, Tanya Halasuma, Vaymonga, Mate, Mate Nicholson,
Ethan Strange, Galvin Da Silva. Then you go, mate, know
(08:58):
all the ones Owen Patty, Mariatta, Fletcher Sharp, Young, Thomas Casey, McClain,
Blaze and Jason Purdue, Zavie Willison, made Lehi Hopawadi.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
It just goes, I've never.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Anyone else, anyone else.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I was just I was in a frenzy then, but
I can't remember.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
There. I can't remember a time in my watching the game.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
There has been so many outstanding youngsters just under sitting
under twenty three years of age.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
And give the young kids a rap, there's no doubt.
But I think the other part their coaches need a
big rap too, because good coaches make average players good YEP,
good players great and great elite. Right, So the question
is around expansion.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I believe you.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I think there is enough talent, but they need to
get the right coaches of the right positions, because then
you will get an influx of improvement of those players.
All of a sudden, someone that came to a club
not even on the radar starts playing football, starts playing
consistent football. Then we're going, you know what, this guy
can play origin And that's the difference between it.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
If we got enough great coaches and enough great playmakers,
we've got enough play You got.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Enough agree with what I agree with?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Just having to.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Look around here, because let's get onto train spotting for
a second.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
You got something for him?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, So it's talking about k weeks and the camera side, right.
It was twenty eight twenty four with two and a
half minutes to go, and this is the evolution that
Camber and some young spine need to get to. If
they're going to win a camp, they need to understand
the context of the game. So two and a half minutes
to go, up by four, Ethan Strange gets more. On
fifth play, he runs the ball. Now, every queue said
(10:42):
for him to run, yep, but he's throwing the ball
out the back here and Jamal Foger gets it. Turnover. Yeah,
go chat now, if he didn't run it or stepped
off his left and then kicked in the corner. That's
twenty meters closer away from the trail line. This is
the fifth play game on the line, and the Dragons
get an attacking kick. Now, the run was actually the
right call, right. I get why he saw it because
(11:04):
he saw space and everything, but at some stage you
had to stop and kick it in the back corner
because that twenty meter difference with two and a half
to go in a tight game is everything you need
to either win or lose. Now that kick ends up
being thirty five meters out. All they've actually they probably
don't even put him to take and kick in. They
shift the ball around and then you shut it down.
But the fact that they got to that field position
(11:25):
should never have happened.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Isn't like just go the simple option that the way
he come off the left, it's brilliant and it's exciting, but.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
He's got the mindset of the first ten minutes. He
was close to the ruck, saw that the pressure was coming,
so stepped off. What he needs to do take a
deep step, know that the kick is number one, number
two and number three option with his time on the clock.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
I've done on the kicking situation. It's not really a
trainsport of stuff. But mate Jamal Foggley put a tall
peeo bomber the other night. It's one of.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
The very best off seeing.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Yeah, I agree with you it was.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It was a hum dinger.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Here it is and just to see why it does,
rips off the burt and you go, it's this one
sweet and so yeah, we're talking about how it turns
over and that's when you know, mate Gatho was in
all sorts.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So to give people a bit of an insight, if
a torpedo turns on top of the ball, if for
some reason spins away and it gets violent on the
way down, if it doesn't turn over the top one
of his access it's actually reasonably okay to catch. But
those players that you know in my day English could
do it. Lucky you could do it. Matt Burton can
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do it when you kick a torpedo. But that is
easily in the top bracket of torpedo bombs i've seen.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Let's talk about three of the as young people say,
the ogs of the torpedo bomb. Firstly and will work
like there was Joey of course, and Joey got the idea.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
There was a guy who used to be paid by.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Ada Das and his name was what was it It
was Dave Aldret and he used to do Johnny Wilkinson
and made as you played for the Minnesota and he said,
there is a there is a scientific equation for torpedo bomb.
He said, pitcher a clock in front of you, You
point the point of the ball at eleven o'clock and
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your body at one, and it will talk.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
And Joey always.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Took it wraps off the side of your boot basically,
so the ball will spin off its access yep, on
the side of the boot.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That that game there was interesting put Joey mate. He
just he tortured Clinton Chakowski in that game. And it
wasn't Clinton's fault in the fact that we just saw
with Gutho if if.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
A kick and nails a trpe doo bomb, sometimes it's
just uncatchable. You can't get them.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
But we when we went across at Newcastle used to
have to go across the main road to a park
and warm up, so Brian Smith used to light the
mind games. So we've gone across the warm up and
he's already taken our walnut spot and it was only
him and Clinton and Brian Smith himself is putting these.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Lolli bombs up.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Anyway, Clinton kept dropping it, and Joey's watching right and
he's watching.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I'm going, oh no, this is going to be back,
and Joey goes all day said stay good mine. Ricky Stewart.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Ricky Stewart one of the originals, and mate, if we
go back. It was the nineteen ninety Major semi final
and it's Canbra at the City Football Stadium and they're
playing the Broncos Coops, and I went, what's the warm up?
You know, watching that great Green machine, watching mal and.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You know, Gary Belcher, Steve Waller is just lazo, all
of them was.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
And Ricky is warming up and he's hitting these torpedoes. Honestly,
it was like they were getting spat out of a machine.
They were just perfect. They were beautiful to look at.
And yeah, when some of those big games when he
just cracked them down in Canberra that or something. But
the one that really comes to mind, I reckon the
best of the lot was Andrew Walker.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Andrew Walker is the best.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
When he is the best at these torpee bombs made.
He used to hit them sometimes and I remember Rabs
one night he's playing first.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
And nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
It just it completely went out of shot. He could
hit him more, He could have hit him so sweet
and better than anyone I can.
Speaker 4 (15:07):
I can remember this.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Angle here for people to just see how the balls
on the angle and s wrapping around the outside of
the foot. The other thing too about the torpedo bombs
is I never could get it to turn over, so
I had to find another way. That's why the float
to bomb came into play. Nathan Cleary does it too.
Reynolds is probably more of a floatter bomb too, So
if you can't get that over, the best one is
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to do.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
The flator bomb even more does yeah, if.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You get it right. But there's a lot of risk
in that.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
One full park four point is parked.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yesterday there was a Volvo promotion. Honestly, you are ruthless.
You have fingers under me and pies and now it
was ten grand for anyone.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
You can kick it and put it through the sun
roof strake.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Look at that.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
The only time you've been cheated proofar Yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I actually had booze before it did this, and then
there was some.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Cheers up, so you were drinking. It was in booze and.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I got the ten grand cash too.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
By the way, look at that Volvo Mossman. Ah, you're
the best there. He is the great beaver.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Now, Coops, we want to do, I want to get
I'll get some great vision for you now in focus tonight.
Last night on the show we had one of my heroes,
the great Englishman Gary Scofield Scowey.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
If you look at some of his highlights, they were insane.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
He was nicknamed the poacher. I've rarely seen a tri
scorer like it, just amazing. He had short stints in Australia.
Played for bal Main forty seven games, played nine games
for the West Hull. He played one hundred and twenty
two games, one hundred and seven tries played for Ludes,
two hundred and fifty games if five hundred and two
club games five and two club games yep. Five hundred
(16:41):
and fifty one if you include tests, most cap Great
Britain player and youngest. He debuted for Great Britain at seventeen,
toured Australia at eighting amazing.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
But he left his best, Coops, he left his best.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
When he played the Kangaroos. He was, in my opinion,
he fired English rugbya league in the fact that they'd
always he was Australia and ELLERI Henley were Australia's worst
nightmares because they didn't play like Australians. They played in
English style. You know, Scoey would chip over the top
of early tackles.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Genius.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
The way he ball played was unorthodox and so different,
and yeah, he was amazing numerous amount of the matches
against Australia, won a Golden Boot one year.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
So in terms of Schofilm, is he the best to
ever done it?
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Coops, I think looks.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
I would put him as one of the greatest English players.
As far as the impact in Australia, he had a
huge impact. But if I go through, if we go
through our top five, he doesn't sit there because these
other guys had a longest stay and one competition. So
if I go through my top five Englishman as far
as impact, my number one is Ellery Hanley. Not a
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long stay with the Tigers, but I can't remember a
player who had an impact like Hanley. Amazing Number two
mile old coach Malcolm. Really, I've got some visionary to
come back to Malcolm, which you're you quite enjoy or
maybe you want Sam Burgess number three says like the
Sam's down at number three given what he achieved at
number four. Of going Adrian Morley, I thought Moz was
(18:09):
amazing and for five and got three. The tide have
gone to James Graham, the great, Johnny Gray and Tommy
Bishop what he did at Cranulla. But if we go
back to Malcolm really, like Malcolm was our coach at
Newcastle and me and Scowey were talking about him last night.
Malcolm coach Gary at Test level and also at Leeds
and he was just saying, mate, we're talking about what
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a competitor he was. But Malcolm was the guy he
never talked tough like you know, he was an amazingly
tough player. And it's funny yesterday was South against Manly
fifty three years almost to the day, was they say
the most brutal fight that ever ever took place on
a rugby league field. It was Malcolm against George Piggins
(18:54):
where they basically got at redfernaval and head butter at
each other for two minutes.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Like it was heramdous. Two of the toughest guys that
have raced the pitch.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
But Malcolm one of the things he used to do
when we'd have a few beers, he'd sometimes pull someone
and say, come on, cook, let's have an arm wrestle.
And he was famous for it and no one's ever
beaten him. Right, So we're playing guys who want to
here and let's get fantastic. I just want to dance, guys, anyway,
I've got firing. I want to dance.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
So we play. We play a game.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
So at the end of the normal round, we play
Adelaide Rams and then we all.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Go for a few beers.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
The next week, we're at the semi finals and he
pulls over Steve crowe He says, come on, Crowy, let's go.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Let's have an arm wrestle.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
But Malcolm McCoo beats him, and Crowey says, I tell it,
old man, I'd love to get I'd get you in
the ring one day and it'll be a lot different. Well,
Malcolm's eyes lit up and he reading the strength of addition,
and he said, listen the field session, cancel that we're
going to give the boxing ring. Right, So this is finals,
This is this is the week leading into the finals. Now,
if you talk about player welfare right and how your
(20:02):
coaches have to be careful around their players. It was
captured when we turned up there. The NBN news crew
were there. Let's have a little look at what happened.
So this is the coach, the coach and he and
one of his forwards. There's Chief trying to break him up.
And yeah, that's what Benji and Dewey and it just
(20:31):
went on and on and on, and I remember one
I think Malcolm asked the news crew can you just
remove that last bit because Malcolm, whatever it takes. And
Crowe said when he got into the fight, he said,
I realized that to stop this bloke.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I'm going to need a gun.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
So Malcolm had him in the corner towards the end
there and he's literally going bang bang and hit him
with elbows.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Now that is leading to a semi final game.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
That's good vision.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
They wouldn't needed a gun because I think what they
were doing is just getting warmed up.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
For the blake that was throwing some other punches. This
guy that look at that. They were just warming up.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Just just quickly learn less. Make Tigers.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Brothers yesterday were fantastic, mate. You know, Latu was brilliant
with his ballplane. I love some of the stuff he did.
The young hooker right of course, happy injured or h
I a sorry he missed a week. Tell him silver
has left the club of Tristan Hope. I'll tell you
what yesterday he made.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
He was terrific. There's a lot of Mitch Kenny around
around try.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Right, yeah, yeah, I will say this Benji Marshall, and
they are playing for Benji said after the game, He's
put a lot of faith.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
In some guys that need to deliver.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Because Latou Fainty the week before against Manly struggled for points,
struggled kicking game. What drome Leui for to be half back?
So Benji Marshall is under bit of pressure. That's a
good win. But these guys need to stand up for
their coach otherwise he's going to be under more pressure.
But Feinu brothers great story, but they need to get consistency,
(22:13):
particularly Lart win his ball playing because the week before
against Manly ineffective. Against the Rooster's running the ball, strong body,
strong carry. That's his blueprint and it's just going to
be interesting to see how him and Lui play because
it looks as though Benji is moving lew Eye at
number six, so he doesn't lose his creativity.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, he struggled with that balance. Yeah, yes, it'll be
interesting to see what he does once Origin's over.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, young Tristan, I said, terrific young player. Scotty just
in here said he's actually twenty eight anyway, mate.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Scotty is young in spirit. That's the most important thing.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
A lot of research.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, yeah, killing now made the Dogs. Yeah, the puzzle coop.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It's still because of the fact that Crichton was an
origin Burton to left Santa, which means.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
But there is no argument here, right you agree?
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, no doubt. Okay, who's seven? Then?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Who's seven for the rest of this season? Is it
Galvin or is it Sexton? I think it's Sexton. I
think Galvin is a fourteen for the rest.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Of this season.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, I can't argue with that.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Picking it apart, the Dogs are in a good spot,
the best defensive team we have in the competition, and
the threats of Crichton kick our. Jacob Preston's a threat, Cherry.
You know Burton, you don't need a truly dominant threat
with a number seven. You've got enough points in and
around them. Right, Galvin will be a very very good player.
(23:48):
He will. He will be a rock solid play for
our competition. But there's just moments in hes ball playing
that he doesn't understand the context of game.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
So when he's chasing points, he's.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Actually way more effective because he moves around freely. But
then sometimes he chooses to run the ball on last
player supposed to kicking. And there's only ways you can
learn that. He's what two years into his career. You
only learn that through experience, time and repetition. Now, if
they get to a prelim final and it comes down
to controling a game, Matt Burn's going to have to
(24:23):
do a lot of the heavy lifting.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You use it something in commentary. I forget the words
it was. He was just pushing the for he used
to a better term, And I think a little bit
that's almost internal or personal pressure he's putting himself. You
see that with ballplayers when they have these certain expectations
of pressure on themselves, they're always trying to throw that
(24:46):
absolute big pass.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Now, you don't want to take that out of Galvan. Right,
there's natural ball playing which is going to help him
in five years time, So you don't want to cut
that off. What you want to do is just expose
him to other areas of experience like Ethan Strange did.
That is exactly what I'm talking about. If he just
takes three steps back and kicks the ball in that corner,
(25:08):
they're not on the threat in their last play and
Galvin's got a little bit of that learning to do it.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
The Bulldogs might play the Raiders in a big game.
You're gonna have Jamal Foger who will take over that
kicking decision making at the back end of the game. Now,
Ken Loachlan Galvin do. I'm not saying Tobe Sex and Ken,
but what I'm saying is a lot will have to
be put on Burton, yes, but Galvin will.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Be a good playoff.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Does play fourteen. That's his role for the rest of
this season.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
But then you've got Bailey, Hayward and Reid Maney there.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
That's right, because then you've got if you put Galvin
and Bailey on the bench, you're gonna have Kurt Man,
you might have Josh Karen on the bench, and all
of a sudden you come up against Penrith Broncos storm
with big packs. They're centralizing their attack, going to chew
(26:00):
up that smaller man in the middle. So it'll be
interesting to see.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Why they do that.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
There's so many ball handlers.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
And smaller bodies now you watch the way they play.
Their line speed is the best thing, and it's because
they're small bodies that have leg speed, right. But if
they get quick rock speed against them, their big bodies
won't be able to stop paying us.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Oh they're smaller bodies, so they won't be able to
stop paying us.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
But instting dilemma, they're going to need more than one
ball on the field for all that there.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Yeah, I think Sexton gets it.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
I just don't know whether you know you can fit
Reed Marney, Bailey, Hayward, Kurtman, and Galban altogether
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