July 14, 2025 • 26 mins
Matty & Cooper recap Origin III, including Billy's bold calls & Cleary not to blame. Plus positive signs for Hynes & more from Round 19.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
The Mariners. You for Finhamsteck what happened?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh you're right, I don't let us move on a
Munster Unstead. You're a You're a mate of his, he's
an old teammate of yours.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You must be proud of him.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, it's usually proud. I think I think he played
the perfect game for his role. Like there was a
lot of pressure on Cameron one off field and what happened,
but to everyone was saying that he was the key, right,
but he just did everything he needed to do great
leadership and allowed other people to be the star. Again.
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He just keeps elevating himself in the Origin landscape. And
I think the thing that came out of me for
that whole series is Billy Slater has done a lot
of great things in the Queensland Jersey, but that is
arguably his finest moment. He made two bold calls after
lou in Game one, and those two calls delivered him
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the series. He made Karen Monster the captain game two months,
agoes out and plays a game of his life and
wins the wins the game. He dropped Jerry Evans and
made Tom did in the halfback and in Game three,
Tom didn't play the game of his life. So a
lot of credit goes to those players. But Billy Slater,
under pressure at different stages, trusted his gut instinct and
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he delivered as a coach, and those players responded to him.
I thought it was a coaching masterclass on and off
the field from Billy, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
As far as as one of the greatest coaching performances.
As far as serious concern I think History of Origin
Fatty's ninety five was incredible. As far as upsets concerned,
that's a bigger upset.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But even Fattyill to your he had no choice.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
He had to pick those players now that was there
was just no depth, and what he did with that
with that group was remarkable. Billy was in a tricky situation.
Although he had more talent, lot of ways like he
had some he had some big decisions to make as
far a selection Hammer Walsh sonent DC, he did, and
as you said.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And rightly so, there's a lot of attention and noise
around Origin, and the biggest accolade I can give Billy
is he sieved through that noise and made bold, gut
instinct calls and they ultimately paid the right price, Like
if he was listening to other people or listening to
some feedback or what he should have shouldn't have done,
he probably would have got one or two wrong. But
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he sat there in amongst his own feelings and bounced
ideas off, and he was so decisive, so confident. He's delivered.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think in himself he learned a bit from the
last series. Notoriously, when we spoke about this last year.
For whatever reason, Origin coaches when they get to that
third campaign, it's like the pressure just starts to build
and compounds, and you see that they become they look
like that they're wearing.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
They're wearing that the pressure.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And I thought last year I thought Billy really struggled
with that. There was a glasshouses thing. But when he
appeared on three sixty, you know, he was aggravated. You know,
he bit at things quite a bit. There were some
certain things in this series, but I think overall, how
he handled himself in the media when appearing on camera,
I thought he was very very good.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, and he also had the challenge of what happened
before Game two with the Mayon Woods and a few
other things, so he didn't have it all his own way.
And he was so good like he is delivered for
the state. He is a legend of State of Oreland
football as a player, and he just elevated himself to
a legend coach because that was a hell of a
coaching performance.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And let's talk about two players during the series. He
took huge risks on Robert Toyer and Gemman. Shibasaki probably
would just say as far as the center's center combination,
we're just say origin history, probably as appairing the most
inexperienced slection risks, and they just defended so well. He
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got him out there. They defended aggressively, They defended smart.
But Billy no doubt to have twit did in game
two and both of them doing in Game three. They
just shut down our space. They didn't let our outside
blokes breathe.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And I think the way that they moved everything sort
of was aggressive, more forward than back, but they still
had the footy IQ to stay back. Valentine Holmes then
not get engaged with Lituell Mitchell's smart decision. They come
out here and shut down, make the contact. Shibasaki very
good there. So yeah, it was a good defensive performance
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hammer that position. That is a try every day of
the week except for the hammer was there. He had
a couple of moments the hammer that not too many
players in our game can deliver. So I thought what
Billy did in terms of the defensive sort of game
plan was more outside in than stepping back yep. And
it forced Nathan into a different look. And I thought
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at some stage Nathan was going to kick the ball
or come up with a different option to get on
the outside. But that's where the hammer was in. There
was option B. C and D had planned for it,
and I executed it perfectly.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And Tom didn't did it again during the COVID years,
but he knocked on his door in that first series
and said, mate, I'm going to need you from the
six didn't broke down crying and said won't let you down,
and he picked him in this series.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Took a big risk in Billies. In terms of Billies legacy.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Is an origin cag drop in DC and my god,
you know and did when you picked in, you know
what you're going to get. You're going to get perseverance,
You're going to get hot. But in this game, he
showed a lot more than that of somebody's touches. Some
of his kicks some just some of the subtle things
I haven't seen it from Tom before.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I agree with that it's a lesson for any young
player that when you get to that level, you should
double down on what you're good at. Don't try and
be someone you're not, don't try and be someone that
was the predecessor or what you think someone's telling you
to do. Tom Didon is a competitor, and he is
arrow straight where he runs a football. Ultimately, he can
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Peter On every play that got him a try, that
saved a couple of tries, and that arrow straight was
the thing that got him the victory in the performance.
But to your point, he did the things he's good at,
but then he also did things that I didn't think
he had in his kit bag, Like his long kicking
game is not elite when it comes to half back.
Go watch his long king game. Like he was rifling
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the ball fifty five meters on the fly and making
Dylan Edward run backwards to catch it. He was just
doing things that I haven't seen him do consistently before.
And that comes down to billion still in that confidence
because he that's a ten out of ten performance and
not too many people do that on their origin arena coops.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You said last week we're talking about, yeah, what Queensland
had to do, and you said get off to a
good start.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You said that was vital, and we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
When you're the red hot favorites and you're playing at home,
when the opposition gets off to a fast start, the
pressure just had a little bit of pressure starts to
be applied.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And I just want to show.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
A little bit here about I reckon how quickly we
lost our composure.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And if you look at the start of the game.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Now, we spoke last week about the importance of getting
early ball to our centers and you see it simple
and bang take it, and that's on offer taking easy mots.
In this instance, it was the first couple of sets
we did this. In this one, Nathan gets caught with
the ball and you see Jerome. I reckon one of
the things there with Jerome, he almost had too much time.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
He tried to place the ball rather than kick it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And as we've seen in big games, those seven tackle
sets completely turn a contest.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's an excuse too much time to think about that.
He needed to put that on the spot and be
the right kick because seeing that game live, when Stephen
Crichton got the ball and beat Shibasaki, I went, oh,
he's gaining confidence. Nathan Cleary's going to keep going to
Stephen Crichton and then he just let the pressure off
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with that kick. Jerome Lui the other one too, as
I thought they lent left a lot ye. Nathan and
Jerome lent left and Stephen Crichton scored one try had
that missed there on shuber Ssarchi. When it wasn't working left,
I thought there was an opportunity to go back to right.
But there was a couple of moments that showed New
South Wales we're just off the pace, and that was
one of them, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Because when it was like Neil Aul early in the game,
I thought our tack looked really good.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We're pushing the ba. We looked really relaxed. I thought, okay,
this is good. We're nice and Lucy goosey, we're getting
the ball to outside man.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But when they march down field take the conversion, it's
only two nil. But if you just see we just
tightened a little bit and just lost our a little
bit of composure.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I thought they did in first try. Yeah, was one
of those things that it was game on and the
treill Mitchell was going to throw Rob Toyer over the
sideline and it was going to be a dominant play
here for New South Wales. There is only a few
people in our game that can do this and unfortunately
for New South Wales it was having they got the ball.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And you know, Coop that's talking about things that bollock
in this game, that was one of them. In the
fact that we presumed that he was going over the
side line, we just thought, okay, and a lot of
our blokes on the inside just take a rest and
just rely just.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
A little bit yep.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
But in his defense, Crime got hands to him and
there is twenty six players on the field and there's
only one person that could have done that. Yeah, And
it was a guy that had the footage, the speed
and acceleration off the start from Hammer there. Like I thought,
it was going to be a big player for New
South Wales and Anger's Crime wasn't that far out of position,
but it just happened to be that that was the one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well the other one is as we approach half time,
it's funny when you look at the completions. The Marines
had more ball, but it really surprised me how quickly
there the Blues forwards petrol tanks emptied this last one
before halftime.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
There's a repeat set.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
We dropped the ball out and I'm watching here going, man,
if this was a boxing match, were getting the standing
eight camp. We're look at us on the inside, we
are completely ragged.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
It felt like Harry Grant was going to do something.
That's what that set felt like. It was too easy
Ford momentum, quick play the balls and when you're seeing
scattered defense around the ruck. Harry Grant is one of
the best architects. I've taken advantage of that. So there
were the signs and that first half that said New
South Wales were off the pace, and I totally agree
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with you. THEO were the three. But from a New
south Wales point of view, Cleary.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yes, what do you take It's interesting what what we're
hearing a lot in New South Wales. There's a certain
amount of criticism going to Nathan saying, oh, you know,
he hasn't conquers stated origin football. It's the last frontier
I reckon that's a simplistic way of looking at it.
As you know, coops, when you are you are at
the mercy coop of your own forwards winning that yardage battle. Okay,
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it's sort of bit like moti racing. I'm not in
the motor racing, but Oscar Piastrick, would you blame him
for losing if the clutch is not working all, the.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Engine is not working.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Probably It's a little bit the same with Nathan. If
your forwards are getting a number done on them and
they're clearly losing the yardage battle, there ain't a lot
you can do. I think the last frontier we move
ourselves a little bit from state of origin. Ever, for
one second, the last frontier for Nathan is being able
to dominate and detect the terms of a contest even
when your forwards are losing the yartish battle. And I
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think coops, that is the last frontier for every playmaker,
because it's the hardest thing to do.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I will say this, I think the criticism of Nathan
Cleary is rubbish. Like he is a genuine star and
if Australian team was picked tomorrow, he is my halfback,
like he's a gun. His time will come and he
will sharpe the haters at some stage. The only critique
I can have of New South Wales and Nathan is
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he got comfortable and just lent to his left hand
side where Lui was and getting the ball to Latrell.
And to be fair, it looked like there was something there,
but I think he could have aimed right and gone
to Martin Edwards and Stephen Crichton a little bit more,
particularly when that game was on the balance. We saw
the first touch from Crichon where you got rid of Shibasaki,
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Crycht scores that try to start of second half as
a halfback. I was thinking, okay, he's going to start
going right here he kept going left. But that's the
only thing. He doesn't deserve any criticism as far as
I'm concerned.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, there's been very very few playmakers in the history
of the game that can still be the man and
dictate the terms when they're forward's being beat.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, it's a hard skill to do. But instead of
trying to do it off one play, what you try
and do is you've got to kick the ball early,
like You've got to try and find other ways to
get your team on the front foot. If your Ford
Pack are not winning that battle and that collision. You're
got to find another way to get forward momentum, and
the best way is an early kick, tackle three, force
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it down, make a really tough defensive set. Then all
of a sudden you feel BUSI change it slightly and
you might get a little bit of momentum going your way.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Let's move away from State of Oregon.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
What happened again?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh yeah, what's your train spotting for this week?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
For me? We was talking about Isaiah cart on the
show a lot, but I think we've just found his
new ballplane number thirteen in Kurt Donahue some of his touches. Now,
he's a half coming through. Watch this subtle ballplane stop starting,
no look past gets it to Kartel. He's a half
coming through, but he's tough and tenacious. Watch this stutter
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step pass. I think he could be developing into a
good playing middle thirteen. And he didn't only do it
in that game. I think he's done at different stages.
He's got halves awareness a bit like Isaiaho. He's not
as big as body as Isaiahoh, but here diving into
line creates and collapse of sharks defense, and he knew
exactly what he's doing. Here, Whi's this straight late ballplaying
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Isaiah Cartel with space. That's all a ball playing thirteen needs. Here,
Isaiah Cartell scores a try, he's pointing, he's communicating, he
knows exactly what he's doing. Plays nice and straight space
created Cartel goes through. So I think the Dolphins have
found their ballplayer number thirty eight. And if they stay together,
just keep an eye out on Kurt Donniaue and he's development.
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I think he might turn into a very good player
for the number thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
A nice one coops and particularly these days, if player
if Harves want to sit back and allow that thirteen
to be a primary ball player like Nathan does, he's
got to be good. He's got like Isaiah, or he's
going to keep sending you down colder sacks.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yep, or the look at the Penrith model, like if
you've got Nathan Cleary with Dylan Edwards and like they're
doing this year and blaze to LUNGI you can get
an athletic sort of full back hish person to play
five eight outside you could. So, yeah, keep an eye
on that. What do you go for me?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, I got I want to talk about disrupting a
defense line coups and you know, oftentimes here I talk
about that shot shop mentality. But you know, when you
start in the middle of the field and you advance
the ball towards an edge and you penetrate, that's when
I say, straight away you want to go to the
other side of the field. The problem with a lot
of size is when they want to go from one
side of the field to the other, they try to
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do it with shaped formation. Oftentimes you get half back
to hooker he does, or one under one sho or one.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Out of the back.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Forwards in the middle.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I hate that style of football in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
When you didn't an edge and push them back, but
when you did an edge, you've started disrupting the defense
line straight away. And from there absolutely do not reset
the middle or you're going to just reset the defense,
but just let the ball go bang bang, get it
the other side, and honestly it will.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
It sends defenders into a panic.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
They stop defending as a collective and start looking at
like basically each man from yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
This coup.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
This is an example where the Cowboys get this Tommy
didd and the first one sort of coming from past
the far posts.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's a shape.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But if you pause there, and when I say disrupting
the defense line, this is what I'm talking about. Where
they take the ball and they're put pit a dent.
Now you see like everyone is in a different place there.
You know, there's there's guys who are going to get
back to early. There's guys going to get back late.
There's some guys that are walking under the post. If
you watch, if we go forward now at MAXI King,
look how exhausted he looks.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Look how late some of.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Them are getting back into the defense line and pause here.
So what you don't want to do there, if you
reset back into the middle of the post, is letting
them off the hook is just going to reset. If
you go to pass to a certain shape, you are
giving the outside men an opportunity to snuff it outside.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
In because they will recognize the shape. Don't stuff around,
just let it go.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And let's watch this and you'll see they're all kick
our struggling and he chases too hard here and.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Just footwork opens it up.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That footwork coming back on the inside, he scores as
a result of the defense line being disrupted.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I agree. I think if you re engineer it defensive principles.
Its basic form is squareness, and then when someone makes
a decision, you mirror that decision. Right, So every team
wants to get a straight line and when one person moves,
the other one will follow through. And when you get
that disruption, what happens is jagged line, not square, and
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people out of sequence making decisions. The one thing I
love about that attack is that it was Purdue and
did an all running straight first and that got people involved,
and it was past past space as opposed to as
you said, long pass, long pass and it's time and
allowing the defense to reset.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
New South Wales did when Crichton scored.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And so the first half the second half look at.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
A second but what you see here is the same.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
They get the ball, they move it to an edge
and in a lot of ways, when you go with
a shot shot mentality, you can use the opposition's defensive
enthusiasm against him. And what you're going to see here
is Queensland. We're defending with such energy and verve that
when they put the dent in it, Mate, you were
how many players around the ball?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
He will watch it here? This is like you know
the shot shot philosophy. Again, they go with the shape,
not just some They get the ball towards the end.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Now you have a look at how many like they're
just all around the ball and the ball just had
to get to the other side as quick as possible.
They nearly blew it, but they get it there and
there's just he goes and scores untouched. New South Wales
had to do more of that on the night.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, I thought the pass here from Lui is highly skilled.
He doesn't do that that doesn't collapse, aligne clear. His
first movement forward not sideways, that brings monster in and
then the pass outside of that to Christ was pretty special.
So I like the idea of it, but it takes
skill and execution to be able to get the ball
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from where it was to the biggest threat, which is
normally the furthest point away from it because everyone will
close in but instead of going straight, they're the only
time you really go straight there is off a line break,
got no one there and all you need to do
is pass it out the wing. But when they've got
a set line, I think you personally first move needs
to be forwards, bring those people in. Then skill and execution.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's funny when Ricky played those Raiders sides, they played
with incredible width, and although you'd be in the line
and Ricky put the ball out of the top, all
of a sudden that everyone's rushing towards the football and
then what that student's put the big blokes on the
inside understrain. And then you know, oftentimes one of the
guys that go off the Green machine off laid out
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the back and they guess you start wandering back through
the middle of the ruck. It's because they've disrupted the
defense line.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And you've got also Rina Kamer in that Bulldog's game
against the Cowboys, when you've got that defense moving across,
Tom Diden comes flying up and one the recognitions you
need to do is as an attacker, need to understand
when a defensive team has rushed in. You need to
get into your gears, slow down, and get that pass
on the outside.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I want to talk about that for a second, Coops,
before we're going to talk about Nico Hines in a second.
But I just want to talk about sides how they
defend these days, and I think as far as the
outside men, there's too many hard and fast rules that
they follow to the nth degree. I think when you've
got when you've got definitive explain that hard and fast
rule is okay, Coops, So you're your third men off
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the edge on the center, I've got my winger there.
If something happens, Coops, I'm always taught. I react off, Cooper,
I follow in. If you go in, I follow If
you are I'll pushed out that. However, Coops, if I
look across and you've made a bad defensive decision and
I pick up on that, I shouldn't have. I shouldn't
follow you into the fire. You know, I k neither
should display here. I should have you know, the the
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smart to direct, to sit and solve the problem.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Even if it's three on two on our side.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You'll see it here with the young cowboy side. And
you know, granted there the young blokes in the center's wing.
But that's an example in the fact that Tommy makes
a poor defensive read and they just following.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
They just follow me.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Nonetheless, So what you're saying is in rule number one,
if you're coming outside in, you've got to stop the football.
So tom did a first error. He must if he's
going to do that, he needs to stop the footing.
But then what you're saying is Purdue and Derby there
need to have the awareness and I only learn through
experience and say, oh, that's a bad decision from Tom.
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I'm not going in on kickout. I'm actually going to
sit back and see if i can solve this myself
as opposed to just doing what the coach says in mirror.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
That's right. Well, and you want to talk one like
you spotted one in State of.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Origin, So Xavier coach the other night in Origin, it's
very similar. Watch this books right, feels like he's going
to come in and just does like a balk and
forces still the Edwards thrill, the pressure and then layers off,
gives Shibasaki time to get across and doesn't get committed,
doesn't have the space. But in saying that I'm going
to defend the Cowboys edges here, that's Xavier Cokes.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yes, that is an.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Experienced player that's seen that four million times and understands
that I could play a game of chess here and
those Cowboys players are just doing the principal thing and
the right thing.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think the worst thing you can really do as
a defender, and the same thing with attack is basically
become predictable, and you become predictable by following the hard
and fast thru all every time is you know, like,
I'll give you an example, right Ryan Girdler when he defended,
it was a nightmare to go to his side because
he was so unpredictable and he picked off so many innercepts.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's spooky.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You go up there and he present like his slide
and he cut back in. Those guys are so hard to.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Play because he was always knowing that the ball is
the most important thing, not the player, because if the
ball is at a different trajectory to the body means
that that person's not going to get it. So you
don't have to go into that person. It's following the
ball and that's where it's like a head on a swing,
having the ability to see everything when it unfolds. So yeah,
I thought, mate. One of the other things too, that
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deserves a bit of highlight from us is the performance
of Nico Heines.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Terrific, mate.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
He was brilliant. Whatever he had before the game in
terms of his drink and gatorade and things like that.
He needs to do it again because from word go
he was aggressive, arrow, straight, and he's found the blueprint
for the rest of the year. There was a line
break in the first half. William Kennedy comes trying to
kick return and Nico Hines would not have done this
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a couple of weeks ago. He comes out of nowhere,
accelerates on the footy. Yes he passes it, but his
first movement is straight, and I love what he does next.
I know he drops a ball here, but watch this,
pushes straight, not trying to finesse the ball, try to
take them on. That passage of play told me that
he's in for a big night. And then this part,
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this is the set after Jeremy Marshall King no try.
He's touched the ball multiple times the games in the balance.
At fourteen twelve, kick gets the ball back here and
previously Nico Hines probably sits back and that's the game
get away from him. He has multiple touches. He is
in total control of the Shark's team. Here I said,
up by two in a tight game, he does this,
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gets a ball here, shovels it off and because he's
got this running, direct, aggressive mindset, he goes over here
for the match winner. So kudos to Nico, heines, whatever
you did before the game, do it again. That's a brilliant.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Performance, isn't it Funny like he'd been playing apprehensive a
little bit. You know that criticism we spoke about how
he drifts sideways searching for something.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
There was zero searching in that particularly the William Kennedy break.
I know he drifted a crossfield late, but he went
arrow straight, give me the ball, didn't wait for someone
else to pass.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It right, it was here.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
He went in And I think one thing that eliminates
nerves and apprehension is aggression, and he just played with
that aggressive mindset, just on on the dogs, and we
touched a little bit on for twelve eight. They got
the win, playing really tough nil mil in the second half,
which is unusual because it was a really entertaining second
half of football.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Twin the two sides, what.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Is a more accurate comment, Cameronce Roalde should be concerned
of lack of points in particular the second half, or
Camerace Roalde should be chuffed heading into the finals winning
on a great defensive effort.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Absolutely chuffed by the defensive effort. Right, that's been their DNA,
it will be their DNA. If they want to win
the premiership, they will win it off the back of
defense twelve eight. And the thing about Galvin or whatever,
he will pick his best seventeen. You should Cameron Serreli
should pick his best defensive seventeen. That's what their success
this year has been built on. And worry about the
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points later stopped the opposition from scoring points and back
kick out Burton Crichton to score the points.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Coops, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I just got through notification through State of ores in
twenty twenty six New South Wales of favor its classed unbootable.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
But unfortunately already a flu has gone through the Rons camp.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Good Bye, good luck, Goodwin.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Mm hmmmmmmmmm
The Mariners. You for Finhamsteck what happened?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh you're right, I don't let us move on a
Munster Unstead. You're a You're a mate of his, he's
an old teammate of yours.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You must be proud of him.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, it's usually proud. I think I think he played
the perfect game for his role. Like there was a
lot of pressure on Cameron one off field and what happened,
but to everyone was saying that he was the key, right,
but he just did everything he needed to do great
leadership and allowed other people to be the star. Again.
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He just keeps elevating himself in the Origin landscape. And
I think the thing that came out of me for
that whole series is Billy Slater has done a lot
of great things in the Queensland Jersey, but that is
arguably his finest moment. He made two bold calls after
lou in Game one, and those two calls delivered him
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the series. He made Karen Monster the captain game two months,
agoes out and plays a game of his life and
wins the wins the game. He dropped Jerry Evans and
made Tom did in the halfback and in Game three,
Tom didn't play the game of his life. So a
lot of credit goes to those players. But Billy Slater,
under pressure at different stages, trusted his gut instinct and
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he delivered as a coach, and those players responded to him.
I thought it was a coaching masterclass on and off
the field from Billy, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
As far as as one of the greatest coaching performances.
As far as serious concern I think History of Origin
Fatty's ninety five was incredible. As far as upsets concerned,
that's a bigger upset.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
But even Fattyill to your he had no choice.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
He had to pick those players now that was there
was just no depth, and what he did with that
with that group was remarkable. Billy was in a tricky situation.
Although he had more talent, lot of ways like he
had some he had some big decisions to make as
far a selection Hammer Walsh sonent DC, he did, and
as you said.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
And rightly so, there's a lot of attention and noise
around Origin, and the biggest accolade I can give Billy
is he sieved through that noise and made bold, gut
instinct calls and they ultimately paid the right price, Like
if he was listening to other people or listening to
some feedback or what he should have shouldn't have done,
he probably would have got one or two wrong. But
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he sat there in amongst his own feelings and bounced
ideas off, and he was so decisive, so confident. He's delivered.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I think in himself he learned a bit from the
last series. Notoriously, when we spoke about this last year.
For whatever reason, Origin coaches when they get to that
third campaign, it's like the pressure just starts to build
and compounds, and you see that they become they look
like that they're wearing.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
They're wearing that the pressure.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
And I thought last year I thought Billy really struggled
with that. There was a glasshouses thing. But when he
appeared on three sixty, you know, he was aggravated. You know,
he bit at things quite a bit. There were some
certain things in this series, but I think overall, how
he handled himself in the media when appearing on camera,
I thought he was very very good.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, and he also had the challenge of what happened
before Game two with the Mayon Woods and a few
other things, so he didn't have it all his own way.
And he was so good like he is delivered for
the state. He is a legend of State of Oreland
football as a player, and he just elevated himself to
a legend coach because that was a hell of a
coaching performance.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And let's talk about two players during the series. He
took huge risks on Robert Toyer and Gemman. Shibasaki probably
would just say as far as the center's center combination,
we're just say origin history, probably as appairing the most
inexperienced slection risks, and they just defended so well. He
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got him out there. They defended aggressively, They defended smart.
But Billy no doubt to have twit did in game
two and both of them doing in Game three. They
just shut down our space. They didn't let our outside
blokes breathe.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And I think the way that they moved everything sort
of was aggressive, more forward than back, but they still
had the footy IQ to stay back. Valentine Holmes then
not get engaged with Lituell Mitchell's smart decision. They come
out here and shut down, make the contact. Shibasaki very
good there. So yeah, it was a good defensive performance
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hammer that position. That is a try every day of
the week except for the hammer was there. He had
a couple of moments the hammer that not too many
players in our game can deliver. So I thought what
Billy did in terms of the defensive sort of game
plan was more outside in than stepping back yep. And
it forced Nathan into a different look. And I thought
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at some stage Nathan was going to kick the ball
or come up with a different option to get on
the outside. But that's where the hammer was in. There
was option B. C and D had planned for it,
and I executed it perfectly.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And Tom didn't did it again during the COVID years,
but he knocked on his door in that first series
and said, mate, I'm going to need you from the
six didn't broke down crying and said won't let you down,
and he picked him in this series.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Took a big risk in Billies. In terms of Billies legacy.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Is an origin cag drop in DC and my god,
you know and did when you picked in, you know
what you're going to get. You're going to get perseverance,
You're going to get hot. But in this game, he
showed a lot more than that of somebody's touches. Some
of his kicks some just some of the subtle things
I haven't seen it from Tom before.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
I agree with that it's a lesson for any young
player that when you get to that level, you should
double down on what you're good at. Don't try and
be someone you're not, don't try and be someone that
was the predecessor or what you think someone's telling you
to do. Tom Didon is a competitor, and he is
arrow straight where he runs a football. Ultimately, he can
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Peter On every play that got him a try, that
saved a couple of tries, and that arrow straight was
the thing that got him the victory in the performance.
But to your point, he did the things he's good at,
but then he also did things that I didn't think
he had in his kit bag, Like his long kicking
game is not elite when it comes to half back.
Go watch his long king game. Like he was rifling
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the ball fifty five meters on the fly and making
Dylan Edward run backwards to catch it. He was just
doing things that I haven't seen him do consistently before.
And that comes down to billion still in that confidence
because he that's a ten out of ten performance and
not too many people do that on their origin arena coops.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
You said last week we're talking about, yeah, what Queensland
had to do, and you said get off to a
good start.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You said that was vital, and we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
When you're the red hot favorites and you're playing at home,
when the opposition gets off to a fast start, the
pressure just had a little bit of pressure starts to
be applied.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
And I just want to show.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
A little bit here about I reckon how quickly we
lost our composure.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
And if you look at the start of the game.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Now, we spoke last week about the importance of getting
early ball to our centers and you see it simple
and bang take it, and that's on offer taking easy mots.
In this instance, it was the first couple of sets
we did this. In this one, Nathan gets caught with
the ball and you see Jerome. I reckon one of
the things there with Jerome, he almost had too much time.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
He tried to place the ball rather than kick it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
And as we've seen in big games, those seven tackle
sets completely turn a contest.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That's an excuse too much time to think about that.
He needed to put that on the spot and be
the right kick because seeing that game live, when Stephen
Crichton got the ball and beat Shibasaki, I went, oh,
he's gaining confidence. Nathan Cleary's going to keep going to
Stephen Crichton and then he just let the pressure off
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with that kick. Jerome Lui the other one too, as
I thought they lent left a lot ye. Nathan and
Jerome lent left and Stephen Crichton scored one try had
that missed there on shuber Ssarchi. When it wasn't working left,
I thought there was an opportunity to go back to right.
But there was a couple of moments that showed New
South Wales we're just off the pace, and that was
one of them, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Because when it was like Neil Aul early in the game,
I thought our tack looked really good.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
We're pushing the ba. We looked really relaxed. I thought, okay,
this is good. We're nice and Lucy goosey, we're getting
the ball to outside man.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
But when they march down field take the conversion, it's
only two nil. But if you just see we just
tightened a little bit and just lost our a little
bit of composure.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I thought they did in first try. Yeah, was one
of those things that it was game on and the
treill Mitchell was going to throw Rob Toyer over the
sideline and it was going to be a dominant play
here for New South Wales. There is only a few
people in our game that can do this and unfortunately
for New South Wales it was having they got the ball.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And you know, Coop that's talking about things that bollock
in this game, that was one of them. In the
fact that we presumed that he was going over the
side line, we just thought, okay, and a lot of
our blokes on the inside just take a rest and
just rely just.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
A little bit yep.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
But in his defense, Crime got hands to him and
there is twenty six players on the field and there's
only one person that could have done that. Yeah, And
it was a guy that had the footage, the speed
and acceleration off the start from Hammer there. Like I thought,
it was going to be a big player for New
South Wales and Anger's Crime wasn't that far out of position,
but it just happened to be that that was the one. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well the other one is as we approach half time,
it's funny when you look at the completions. The Marines
had more ball, but it really surprised me how quickly
there the Blues forwards petrol tanks emptied this last one
before halftime.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
There's a repeat set.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
We dropped the ball out and I'm watching here going, man,
if this was a boxing match, were getting the standing
eight camp. We're look at us on the inside, we
are completely ragged.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
It felt like Harry Grant was going to do something.
That's what that set felt like. It was too easy
Ford momentum, quick play the balls and when you're seeing
scattered defense around the ruck. Harry Grant is one of
the best architects. I've taken advantage of that. So there
were the signs and that first half that said New
South Wales were off the pace, and I totally agree
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with you. THEO were the three. But from a New
south Wales point of view, Cleary.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Yes, what do you take It's interesting what what we're
hearing a lot in New South Wales. There's a certain
amount of criticism going to Nathan saying, oh, you know,
he hasn't conquers stated origin football. It's the last frontier
I reckon that's a simplistic way of looking at it.
As you know, coops, when you are you are at
the mercy coop of your own forwards winning that yardage battle. Okay,
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it's sort of bit like moti racing. I'm not in
the motor racing, but Oscar Piastrick, would you blame him
for losing if the clutch is not working all, the.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Engine is not working.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Probably It's a little bit the same with Nathan. If
your forwards are getting a number done on them and
they're clearly losing the yardage battle, there ain't a lot
you can do. I think the last frontier we move
ourselves a little bit from state of origin. Ever, for
one second, the last frontier for Nathan is being able
to dominate and detect the terms of a contest even
when your forwards are losing the yartish battle. And I
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think coops, that is the last frontier for every playmaker,
because it's the hardest thing to do.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
I will say this, I think the criticism of Nathan
Cleary is rubbish. Like he is a genuine star and
if Australian team was picked tomorrow, he is my halfback,
like he's a gun. His time will come and he
will sharpe the haters at some stage. The only critique
I can have of New South Wales and Nathan is
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he got comfortable and just lent to his left hand
side where Lui was and getting the ball to Latrell.
And to be fair, it looked like there was something there,
but I think he could have aimed right and gone
to Martin Edwards and Stephen Crichton a little bit more,
particularly when that game was on the balance. We saw
the first touch from Crichon where you got rid of Shibasaki,
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Crycht scores that try to start of second half as
a halfback. I was thinking, okay, he's going to start
going right here he kept going left. But that's the
only thing. He doesn't deserve any criticism as far as
I'm concerned.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, there's been very very few playmakers in the history
of the game that can still be the man and
dictate the terms when they're forward's being beat.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah, it's a hard skill to do. But instead of
trying to do it off one play, what you try
and do is you've got to kick the ball early,
like You've got to try and find other ways to
get your team on the front foot. If your Ford
Pack are not winning that battle and that collision. You're
got to find another way to get forward momentum, and
the best way is an early kick, tackle three, force
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it down, make a really tough defensive set. Then all
of a sudden you feel BUSI change it slightly and
you might get a little bit of momentum going your way.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Let's move away from State of Oregon.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
What happened again?
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh yeah, what's your train spotting for this week?
Speaker 3 (13:20):
For me? We was talking about Isaiah cart on the
show a lot, but I think we've just found his
new ballplane number thirteen in Kurt Donahue some of his touches. Now,
he's a half coming through. Watch this subtle ballplane stop starting,
no look past gets it to Kartel. He's a half
coming through, but he's tough and tenacious. Watch this stutter
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step pass. I think he could be developing into a
good playing middle thirteen. And he didn't only do it
in that game. I think he's done at different stages.
He's got halves awareness a bit like Isaiaho. He's not
as big as body as Isaiahoh, but here diving into
line creates and collapse of sharks defense, and he knew
exactly what he's doing. Here, Whi's this straight late ballplaying
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Isaiah Cartel with space. That's all a ball playing thirteen needs. Here,
Isaiah Cartell scores a try, he's pointing, he's communicating, he
knows exactly what he's doing. Plays nice and straight space
created Cartel goes through. So I think the Dolphins have
found their ballplayer number thirty eight. And if they stay together,
just keep an eye out on Kurt Donniaue and he's development.
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I think he might turn into a very good player
for the number thirty eight.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
A nice one coops and particularly these days, if player
if Harves want to sit back and allow that thirteen
to be a primary ball player like Nathan does, he's
got to be good. He's got like Isaiah, or he's
going to keep sending you down colder sacks.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yep, or the look at the Penrith model, like if
you've got Nathan Cleary with Dylan Edwards and like they're
doing this year and blaze to LUNGI you can get
an athletic sort of full back hish person to play
five eight outside you could. So, yeah, keep an eye
on that. What do you go for me?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, I got I want to talk about disrupting a
defense line coups and you know, oftentimes here I talk
about that shot shop mentality. But you know, when you
start in the middle of the field and you advance
the ball towards an edge and you penetrate, that's when
I say, straight away you want to go to the
other side of the field. The problem with a lot
of size is when they want to go from one
side of the field to the other, they try to
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do it with shaped formation. Oftentimes you get half back
to hooker he does, or one under one sho or one.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Out of the back.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Forwards in the middle.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I hate that style of football in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
When you didn't an edge and push them back, but
when you did an edge, you've started disrupting the defense
line straight away. And from there absolutely do not reset
the middle or you're going to just reset the defense,
but just let the ball go bang bang, get it
the other side, and honestly it will.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
It sends defenders into a panic.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
They stop defending as a collective and start looking at
like basically each man from yourself.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
This coup.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
This is an example where the Cowboys get this Tommy
didd and the first one sort of coming from past
the far posts.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
It's a shape.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But if you pause there, and when I say disrupting
the defense line, this is what I'm talking about. Where
they take the ball and they're put pit a dent.
Now you see like everyone is in a different place there.
You know, there's there's guys who are going to get
back to early. There's guys going to get back late.
There's some guys that are walking under the post. If
you watch, if we go forward now at MAXI King,
look how exhausted he looks.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Look how late some of.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Them are getting back into the defense line and pause here.
So what you don't want to do there, if you
reset back into the middle of the post, is letting
them off the hook is just going to reset. If
you go to pass to a certain shape, you are
giving the outside men an opportunity to snuff it outside.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
In because they will recognize the shape. Don't stuff around,
just let it go.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And let's watch this and you'll see they're all kick
our struggling and he chases too hard here and.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Just footwork opens it up.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That footwork coming back on the inside, he scores as
a result of the defense line being disrupted.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
I agree. I think if you re engineer it defensive principles.
Its basic form is squareness, and then when someone makes
a decision, you mirror that decision. Right, So every team
wants to get a straight line and when one person moves,
the other one will follow through. And when you get
that disruption, what happens is jagged line, not square, and
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people out of sequence making decisions. The one thing I
love about that attack is that it was Purdue and
did an all running straight first and that got people involved,
and it was past past space as opposed to as
you said, long pass, long pass and it's time and
allowing the defense to reset.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
New South Wales did when Crichton scored.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
And so the first half the second half look at.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
A second but what you see here is the same.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
They get the ball, they move it to an edge
and in a lot of ways, when you go with
a shot shot mentality, you can use the opposition's defensive
enthusiasm against him. And what you're going to see here
is Queensland. We're defending with such energy and verve that
when they put the dent in it, Mate, you were
how many players around the ball?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
He will watch it here? This is like you know
the shot shot philosophy. Again, they go with the shape,
not just some They get the ball towards the end.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Now you have a look at how many like they're
just all around the ball and the ball just had
to get to the other side as quick as possible.
They nearly blew it, but they get it there and
there's just he goes and scores untouched. New South Wales
had to do more of that on the night.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Yeah, I thought the pass here from Lui is highly skilled.
He doesn't do that that doesn't collapse, aligne clear. His
first movement forward not sideways, that brings monster in and
then the pass outside of that to Christ was pretty special.
So I like the idea of it, but it takes
skill and execution to be able to get the ball
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from where it was to the biggest threat, which is
normally the furthest point away from it because everyone will
close in but instead of going straight, they're the only
time you really go straight there is off a line break,
got no one there and all you need to do
is pass it out the wing. But when they've got
a set line, I think you personally first move needs
to be forwards, bring those people in. Then skill and execution.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's funny when Ricky played those Raiders sides, they played
with incredible width, and although you'd be in the line
and Ricky put the ball out of the top, all
of a sudden that everyone's rushing towards the football and
then what that student's put the big blokes on the
inside understrain. And then you know, oftentimes one of the
guys that go off the Green machine off laid out
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the back and they guess you start wandering back through
the middle of the ruck. It's because they've disrupted the
defense line.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
And you've got also Rina Kamer in that Bulldog's game
against the Cowboys, when you've got that defense moving across,
Tom Diden comes flying up and one the recognitions you
need to do is as an attacker, need to understand
when a defensive team has rushed in. You need to
get into your gears, slow down, and get that pass
on the outside.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I want to talk about that for a second, Coops,
before we're going to talk about Nico Hines in a second.
But I just want to talk about sides how they
defend these days, and I think as far as the
outside men, there's too many hard and fast rules that
they follow to the nth degree. I think when you've
got when you've got definitive explain that hard and fast
rule is okay, Coops, So you're your third men off
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the edge on the center, I've got my winger there.
If something happens, Coops, I'm always taught. I react off, Cooper,
I follow in. If you go in, I follow If
you are I'll pushed out that. However, Coops, if I
look across and you've made a bad defensive decision and
I pick up on that, I shouldn't have. I shouldn't
follow you into the fire. You know, I k neither
should display here. I should have you know, the the
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smart to direct, to sit and solve the problem.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Even if it's three on two on our side.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
You'll see it here with the young cowboy side. And
you know, granted there the young blokes in the center's wing.
But that's an example in the fact that Tommy makes
a poor defensive read and they just following.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
They just follow me.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Nonetheless, So what you're saying is in rule number one,
if you're coming outside in, you've got to stop the football.
So tom did a first error. He must if he's
going to do that, he needs to stop the footing.
But then what you're saying is Purdue and Derby there
need to have the awareness and I only learn through
experience and say, oh, that's a bad decision from Tom.
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I'm not going in on kickout. I'm actually going to
sit back and see if i can solve this myself
as opposed to just doing what the coach says in mirror.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
That's right. Well, and you want to talk one like
you spotted one in State of.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Origin, So Xavier coach the other night in Origin, it's
very similar. Watch this books right, feels like he's going
to come in and just does like a balk and
forces still the Edwards thrill, the pressure and then layers off,
gives Shibasaki time to get across and doesn't get committed,
doesn't have the space. But in saying that I'm going
to defend the Cowboys edges here, that's Xavier Cokes.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Yes, that is an.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Experienced player that's seen that four million times and understands
that I could play a game of chess here and
those Cowboys players are just doing the principal thing and
the right thing.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think the worst thing you can really do as
a defender, and the same thing with attack is basically
become predictable, and you become predictable by following the hard
and fast thru all every time is you know, like,
I'll give you an example, right Ryan Girdler when he defended,
it was a nightmare to go to his side because
he was so unpredictable and he picked off so many innercepts.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's spooky.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You go up there and he present like his slide
and he cut back in. Those guys are so hard to.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Play because he was always knowing that the ball is
the most important thing, not the player, because if the
ball is at a different trajectory to the body means
that that person's not going to get it. So you
don't have to go into that person. It's following the
ball and that's where it's like a head on a swing,
having the ability to see everything when it unfolds. So yeah,
I thought, mate. One of the other things too, that
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deserves a bit of highlight from us is the performance
of Nico Heines.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Terrific, mate.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
He was brilliant. Whatever he had before the game in
terms of his drink and gatorade and things like that.
He needs to do it again because from word go
he was aggressive, arrow, straight, and he's found the blueprint
for the rest of the year. There was a line
break in the first half. William Kennedy comes trying to
kick return and Nico Hines would not have done this
(23:33):
a couple of weeks ago. He comes out of nowhere,
accelerates on the footy. Yes he passes it, but his
first movement is straight, and I love what he does next.
I know he drops a ball here, but watch this,
pushes straight, not trying to finesse the ball, try to
take them on. That passage of play told me that
he's in for a big night. And then this part,
(23:54):
this is the set after Jeremy Marshall King no try.
He's touched the ball multiple times the games in the balance.
At fourteen twelve, kick gets the ball back here and
previously Nico Hines probably sits back and that's the game
get away from him. He has multiple touches. He is
in total control of the Shark's team. Here I said,
up by two in a tight game, he does this,
(24:17):
gets a ball here, shovels it off and because he's
got this running, direct, aggressive mindset, he goes over here
for the match winner. So kudos to Nico, heines, whatever
you did before the game, do it again. That's a brilliant.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Performance, isn't it Funny like he'd been playing apprehensive a
little bit. You know that criticism we spoke about how
he drifts sideways searching for something.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
There was zero searching in that particularly the William Kennedy break.
I know he drifted a crossfield late, but he went
arrow straight, give me the ball, didn't wait for someone
else to pass.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It right, it was here.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
He went in And I think one thing that eliminates
nerves and apprehension is aggression, and he just played with
that aggressive mindset, just on on the dogs, and we
touched a little bit on for twelve eight. They got
the win, playing really tough nil mil in the second half,
which is unusual because it was a really entertaining second
half of football.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Twin the two sides, what.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Is a more accurate comment, Cameronce Roalde should be concerned
of lack of points in particular the second half, or
Camerace Roalde should be chuffed heading into the finals winning
on a great defensive effort.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Absolutely chuffed by the defensive effort. Right, that's been their DNA,
it will be their DNA. If they want to win
the premiership, they will win it off the back of
defense twelve eight. And the thing about Galvin or whatever,
he will pick his best seventeen. You should Cameron Serreli
should pick his best defensive seventeen. That's what their success
this year has been built on. And worry about the
(25:44):
points later stopped the opposition from scoring points and back
kick out Burton Crichton to score the points.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Coops, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I just got through notification through State of ores in
twenty twenty six New South Wales of favor its classed unbootable.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
But unfortunately already a flu has gone through the Rons camp.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Good Bye, good luck, Goodwin.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Mm hmmmmmmmmm
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