March 17, 2025 • 26 mins
Round 2: Matty is joined by Cooper Cronk for thoughts on Tigers' progress, Roosters' memorable win & Ricky Stuart's coaching master class.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I said at the starting year, I taught Adam Field
Blake will be by the season and I'll stand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
By it, but I'll tee it to Rell May. He
started the season.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
His performance yesterday and seventy three minutes and the quality
of his work.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
He's been the most dominant forward in the park for
both the Tigers performances and great yesterday. But that first
half yesterday made it was. It was uninspiring from both teams,
like it was there for the taking and all one
team had to do after about twenty minutes was complete.
The next five sets, they would have scored one or
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two tries. I thought the Tigers obviously got their game together,
defended pretty well for the majority of the game. But
the reason why they got to think it was sixteen
l at halftime is with fatigue and both teams not
playing well, anyone with footwork that had energy that went
to the contest and did.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Something fast came up with a play.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Luckie Galvin came up with one, and Durine Buller on
that kick return all of a sudden just saw tired,
lazy defenders and went for it. So there's one thing
that I thought Jerome Lee should have with appy Corus.
How was there was acres of space in the middle
third of the field in the paramount of defense if
they had have just used some of that forward momentum
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from Tyrell may quick play the ball, run scoot run
as opposed to pass past pass because there was a
couple of players. I just thought from the Tigers that
was static, it was slow. It was just this is
a training run. Will stop pass, stop pass, stop pass.
Paramatta's defense ate them up and there was an error,
but just needed to be more dynamic as opposed to
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has been.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, passes the ball become runners.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
What we're seeing, coops, with the tendencies in the game,
I'm looking where these upsets are driven by and good
performances are driven by. And it's a lot of times
the outside backs getting into the middle because with the
fast rucks, I just said, that's where the space and
making those big opposition middles miss and fatiguing them and
it all just rolls from there. Yeah, the Tigers in
the first half, coops, they lack decisiveness in that first
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thirty minutes, watching them and watching them come out of yardage,
I didn't know whether they want to go forward or
they want to push it through the hands.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
There was a little bit of this, little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Of that, and that's a consequence Jerome and Lucky Galvin
put themselves under a bit of pressure. If the Tigers,
I think he'd be far better served, no fuss coming
out of trouble. Right drive, drive, drive, drive, Get yourself
in a position maybe for an attacking kick.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Knock it down the other end. If you want to
push the ball wide and this opportunity, just get it there.
But there was just at.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Times in that first thirty minutes they were betwixt and between.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I like what Lucky Galvin brings like he's energetic, like
he just wants to be involved. He'll turn up on
the left hand short side, he'd be two passes wide
on the right. He's just wanting to be involved in
the game. He needs to hold onto that. I think
Jerome Leui doesn't need to fall into this game manager
with the seventies back where he just shovel pass, shovel pass,
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and when he steps he's stepping sideways. I think he
needs to go forward. Yeah, all his good stuff at
Penrith when he was running he had forward momentum and
then it was left foot, left foot. He just needs
to get back into being run the ball, because if
he had a round the ball yesterday, I'm pretty certain
he scores a try, sets up another and it's a
more dominant performance.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Halfway through the year.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Last year, when Origin just emerged, he found his best
football because there was more step accelerate rather than step
and step, and you know he's you can see at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There were a few things during the game.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I watched him and he was trying to corral the
players into shape and I was struggling getting there.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
There was once from a.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Scrum, a player was supposed to run a certain line.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He missed his cue. I saw Jerome get into him.
He's wrestling with a lot of that stuff at the moment.
To come from a system in Penrith where the players
are locked into position, you see blokes, two or three
blokes at a time, swinging from edge to wedge. It's
so coordinated. And to be in that machine for a
long time then suddenly go into a new team with
new combinations and trying to corral them, it's very difficult.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, there was a player in the second half earlier.
It was it was ripped. It was slow, it was bad.
It was shovel pass. Shovel pass end up being an
error on the on the on the extreme side. But
if it had just been maybe dummy half front, just
forward through us, then Jerome gets it and he might
bounce off his left and go forward and there's a
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inside pass.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know, all these things they'll be able to tinker with.
I think they'd be Tiger's fans going Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Boys. We did win, which they did, like.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know, and I thought, with how coming back dream Buller,
I had a feeling they're going to do a job
on paramatter. At the moment, paramatter in a very dark place.
But but I think there were some things in that game.
For if your Tiger supporter gives you of optimism where
their season can go.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
There's something great about our game when the Tigers are
winning and smiling. Oh yeah, they were through Ofver scored
a couple, he was pumped up, the crowd was getting involved.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
But what do you make a para matter.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Look at the moment.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
A lot of those young rookies just find themselves at
the moment out of their depths. A lot of them
have come into the side at the same time. I
don't know many teams in the modern era where all
young guys just come into his side and suddenly everything clicks.
You go through hard times. I remember that Manly Side
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and Canberra with a green Machine. Guys come through and
they sort of picked up and they were surrounded by
a lot of experience as well. So they're in a
very very difficult situation and Coops they're operating without their
steering well, which is Mitchell moses that that makes things
very very difficult. I feel for Jason Rowles's walked into
excuse the French a complete shit fight, you know, with
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Dylan Brown leaving and all these other factors.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I will say this, I picked up something interesting. Lomax
was the big off season signing. Wanted to play center,
wants to dominate the center position. He's spent three months
sort of practicing the yard of defending back in the centers.
He does get caught out against Melbourne Storm a couple
of times, but then to start the game on the weekend,
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he's defending on the wing and attacking in the centers,
which I thought was I don't know if it was
Lomax's call Jason's call, but that was a little bit
strange to see that unfolded.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I actually, if I'm Jason, I like that, Coops, because
I think Jason Rowles looks at the team and says, right,
where are my experienced guys?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Who are the guys that can win a game for me?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And there's only a couple there, and he's one of them.
And I think he looks at it rosy and says, look,
I'm just going to work out a system of play
where i can get as much as I can out
of Zach. Look, I don't think Zach has a problem
doing that. It's the guy he plays alongside, you know,
he mirrors it. He's got to do the opposite. That's
typically three young player.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And I will say this, I think Junior Barlow needs
to lead at those stages. Yesterday Did he fly out
of line and try and rattle the Tiger's defender? Did
skittle defenders carrying the ball like he just needs to lead.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
The concern Coops in Paramatta is that when the Tigers scored,
like there's a lot of areas both sides, but Penrith
dug him defensively and they repelled him a few times.
But once the Tigers got that first try, you could
see their defensive effort start to subside, and that tried
before halftime just killed them.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
On a On another note, what about your Roosters. In
my time in rugby league, I'm trying to think of
a bigger upset.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I remember the Roosters one year winning the competition and
the goal case sped him in the last game of
the round, which are about ten eleven to one. But
who thinks about odds and winning money? But that one
eleven to one to start the game. The Roosters look coops.
They scored thirty eight points. But upsets are driven by
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defense and high pressure defense. Defense within defense wins matches,
defense wins comps because defenses desire.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And you can see they'd burned their bondet after the
week before, and rightfully so. Their sword had been sharpened
by all the criticism. And let's not take anything away
from the Roosters, but they came up against a side
who all week have been told you're going to win
by fifty sixty points, eleven to one, twelve to one.
Is this the biggest despised outsiders in modern history of
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the game. And I got no doubt that bled into them.
Now what fed that was Alimity scoring that frightfully That's
where they scored and I thought to myself, wow this
is and I reckon They probably thought the same thing.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And one thing for the Roosters was Panthers probably played
an average game. They still scored thirty two points and
they went within a centimeter potentially sent it to golden points.
So the ability for Penrith, even though they're not playing
well is to still compete on every play.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
We've seen this previous seasons have we you know, they
build into their year and they have a game like
this last year they knocked over by Wigan and a
couple of years ago though they'll beat in the early rounds.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But I think one thing that the Roosters did well
is probably the first time in a while, the tall
timber of say Daniel Tupo and Dominic Young really exposed
sort of doing Edwards Bryan Tott and the smaller back
three where they were just jumping up and catching everything
or competing for things.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And I think Melbourne actually.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Did it at Penrith when they beat them basically for
the minor premiership at home last year too, So that
might be something that teams with bigger our side bags
might try and do.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
A lot of Not a lot has been made of this,
but the move from Penrith Park or Blue Belt Stadium
to Combat.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Will be it will be a factor this year.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
How big a fact of that.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
As far as minor premierships like I still see them
in the top four.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But put it this way, Coops, I reckon Penrith Park.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I reckon a lot of size that would travel out
there on a Friday or Saturday night would be beaten
before they get off the bus. It's just such a
tough place to win. And it's just that that's say
it's a furnace with all the Panthers fans. I liken
it Coop to the Broncos. In the early nineties, early
actually right through the mid nineties, they moved out of
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Lange Park while it was getting redone and they went
to a Q two stadium iet what it was called
sixty four thousand people.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It was such it was an awful place to play.
Although there were.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Sixty thousand people, it was a long way away, a
little bit like the old Stadium Australia when it was
the Olympic track on there. But the Broncos loved it
because it was such a tough place to go, and
you did. I didn't like playing there, and the parents
didn't like playing there. Their win rate was about damn
good side but coops. Then they moved back to their
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home sun Corp Stadium.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
But everyone else loved me. The other sides love playing
there as well.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I'll give you that.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I think some teams that played pen at Penweth Park
would have been half beaten before they arrived. But I
think Penrith, on the other hand, have this mindset of
they'll play anyone anywhere. I don't know if Penrith would
suffer from not playing at home because they've just got
this ability to play the core play at some court,
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play at Las Vegas still get the job done. But
I'll give you the tip that maybe other teams feel
a little bit more happier that they don't have to
go to.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
What about you, blokes, the Old Olympic Park. What a
mass of a place that was, What an awful place.
And then you move into Amy Park and like the
winning continues, but for opposing teams, such a better place
to play.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So in winter at the Old Olympic Park, Bellamy would
never let us wear a jumper. It's three degrees outside
on a Saturday night. Refuse for us to run out
and the warm up and wear a jumper. But he
always said, if the opposition's wearing a jacket, we've got
a beat before they start. And you run out for
warm up and you see maybe six of the guys
wearing their hoodie or a bit of a jackety go.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yep, we've got them tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Oh okay, another side, who the upsets? Yeah? The upset? Well,
let's it's Warriors.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I loved about the Warriors that they robbed to self
correct themselves after Vegas. I thought in Vegas they just
they pushed the ball unnecessarily to the edge all the
time trying to create. When you've got two, you got
seven and six there in Metcalf and Schnelle who knew
that are really game managers.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So you need Wade Eagan to be the.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Focal point of your attack and lead the attack. And
they enable to do that because they did less. They centralized.
They play far more north south, and with Egan running
the show in the middle, it allowed Metcalf and Chanelle
to sit back and actually play to their strengths.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Run the football.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I thought Egan was good, and I will say this
about the Warriors. A lot of people wrote them off
after their Vegas performance, and if you go back and
watch the manly game, I think Turbo scored within the
first few minutes. The Warriors actually come up with some
pretty poor play inside the first ten minutes, like some
really disconnected play, but the temperament of Egan, but Metcalf
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as well to hold their nerve and then hit the
gas and come up some pretty good football. Metcalf is
a running half back and once he loses that strength,
I think the Warriors will struggle.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So he needs to run the ball a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And I like Chanelle too. Chanelle in Vegas really only
ran the ball once. He's a beautiful, sweet left foot.
He went bang, went half through and you can see
he'd gone back. Had to look at his game and
realized he was just trying to finest the ball around
get back to his strength. About four or five times
against mainly he come off the left and went half through.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So Webster was at Penrith and sort of contribute to
the attacking system that they run out there, and he's
bought that to the Warriors and metcalf runs the cleary system.
You've got Harris Tavita on the left and you've got
Charms on the right, and the threat of running that
metcalf provides it opens up some passing lanes for everyone else.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, that's the thing like oftentimes, Coop.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
We always think traditionally if fords go forward as the
crowd space for the halves, but sometimes the halves can
take you forward as well. You know, check off a
right foot metcalf off of right foot, goes halfway through,
Wade Egan sweeps the way he goes, you know, just
building off that fast momentum.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And one of the other upsets was the Raiders the
fancied Broncos.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
That was a coaching.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Master class from Ricky, like he's been doing it a
long time. But everyone expected Brisbane to go there and
dominate like they did the Roosters. And it looks like
Ricky did the old no tarpany but did the old
like you know, how you match up the player for
player and say, hey, you need to dominate your opposition players. Tonight,
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what probably in Hawesbury did to stop pass and Carrigan tremendous.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And zach Oskin too yep, Zach was very very good.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Very good, and then Foggy outplayed Reynolds. Like it's almost
that Ricky did the old individual matchup and so you
dominate your individual player and we'll go on and win.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
And Jina Coop watching that game, it's like I've always
been a strong believer, always been a strong believer. Is
that every team must develop their own unique.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Style of playing. Right. So if you've got a unique stra.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Particularly if you're a club who's you know, toward the
bottom end around the mid table, if you want to
beat the top size, you can't play Diet Melbourne, Diet Penrith.
You have to establish your own special style of football
and then and if you can impose that style on
the contest, you can cause an upset. That's what the
Raiders have got. Raiders are playing very different to everyone.
There's such a fast moving site. Everyone's got footwork. They
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bring those young, fast guys through the middle, make the
big opposition forwards miss and they just build from there.
I just like the fact that they have got their
own style. That is crucial to their success.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Well said Chris has started really well. Timiko on the
other side very good. So they've got threat to go
apart on either side of the park, and they're forwards.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
That's their strength. That's ultimately about strange.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Just two sides who are on the end of those
upsets until wet Broncos. And second, but mainly we said
last week, manly, you've got to be careful about falling
in love with mainly.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, when they're on their on and when they're bad,
they're bad. And we said that against the Cowboys that
when they get they're attacking mindset on, they are great.
But can they defend the long periods of time? Can
they play when slow play the balls?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
All that thing comes to their style of game and
the Broncos well, I managed said after the game he
said he's found out some new things about his sight.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Didn't say what they were.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I'm guessing that Michael McGuire showed a lot of opportunities
for the Broncos to score points. This is me guessing
because he said, I've learned a lot about my team
and how to get them ready. And sometimes when you
show a lot of vision to let's say Reese Walsh
and Ben Han and all those guys, about how much
opportunity there is a score points if you get the
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roll of sleeves up and do the dirty work first.
You go straight into try assist mode. And Walsh had
some errors. But knowing Michael McGuire from his history, I
think he may have been a bit too how can
I say, fluffy in his approach maybe and too positive.
Maybe he had to dial it back and say, hey,
we're playing at Ricky Stewart here, it's going to be
a dog.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
For well, that's what Ricky would have done.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, regardless of their victory in Vegas, Ricky would have
found a way through the week be agitated about something
that puts his sides on their toes.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And that's the thing, coops. If you're you're a top
line team and.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You want to beat an underdog, you beat an underdog
by playing like an underdog.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
That's what Penrith's is such a great side.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Regardless over the last four years, who've they've come up
against is the generally exception the other night, but they
have an established style of football. They're ruthless with working
down the field, kick down the far end, pin the
opposition against their line and just beat the shit out
of them and take your game from there. A little
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bit like talking about the sports is like Jordan's Chicago
bulls would come up against sides who will be all
fired up to beat them, but Jordan riding those bulls.
The nature of Jordan and what a competitor he was. Again,
they would beat underdogs with an underdog mentality.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
What about the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Dolphins, they've been really disappointing the first week. You could
forgive it, Coops, because all.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The circumstances with the floods and keymen didn't come down.
But they'll pour against Newcastle. The concern, Coop was how
slow moving it was. I could see what they're trying
to do a little bit like we said about the
Warriors in their first round in Vegas, is that they
are trying to find creativity and points by going wide
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all the time. And if you're going to strip numbers, Coop,
as you know, is that the immediacy is that whether
it's off the seven or the nine or the six,
that first little bit that your play to the sweep
option has got to be so tight and so fast
to start that stripping process.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
They are so loose and so slow they just ended
up in the green stand.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
They look like they are working to a field position,
just slowly and one out and then they run their
main play and they go, why didn't that work. I'll
tell you why it didn't work. There's zero rock speed
ability to create a quicker play the ball, and it
just was sidewise, sideways, sideways, and Cartower set up one
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and scored one. And if you go back and look,
he actually changes speed and that's the reason why he
scores and sets one up because he goes from slow
to fast and it catches his defense out.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
So they need a little bit more athleticism play the
ball speed and just something to get the fence not
moving forward, staying back.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
It was interesting that game just was watching trends.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Newcast most and Newcastles tries come as a result of
a certain shape called split shape, which is one under
one short he can go out the back with. It's
a really good run pass option play. And both both
the Dolphins tries come of that same shape. It's good
for Katoa and it's good for players like Calum Ponga
and the Fletcher Sharp because it enables you to run
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still that pass option.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yeah, but if Carto hadn't changed speed, he doesn't go
through through that That was the thing for me, seeing
that everything else was slow, but he went fast and
that changed the play.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Got some concerns around the Cowboys season that sort.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
For the game, Toddy Peyton said, they asked what are
you looking for? He used words to the extent of
I want my side looking for collision, chase the collision,
which means he wants them to play physical, he wants
them to play tough. And I don't think they got
the mema.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
No they are.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
They are so inconsistent, Like they beat the Melbourne Storm
in the last week of the preseason and looked good
and then there are two round games this year, I
mean very poor. I will say this that defensively, that's
ultimately where it sits that they need to be way
better one physical but also decision making on their edges.
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But when you've got people like Eden and drink Water,
in my opinion, I think you need back rollers that
are arrow straight going down the field, catching the eye
of defenders. So Didon can do his show and go
and go through and drink Water can do his thing
as well. When you've got back roles that want to
be passed the ball early or want to go underneath
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all the time. It's not good for someone's dynamic like Didon.
So defensively, they need to improve one thousand percent one
of their attacking stuff. They need straight runners to help
Diden and drink water do their.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Thing to sink coops getting the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Players were wandering across the field, Players were overrunning them.
Players were running the wrong running the wrong gaps. They
are running into.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Each other at points. It was for a team.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
My knock always in the last few years on the
Cowboys is that they defend like they're just waiting to
get the ball back. Hasn't been a problem with their attack.
They love attacking. But the other night their attack was shocking.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
But that's so hard to fathom because the year was
it twenty twenty two. They were all about defense was
they were all about chasing.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
It had the balance right, yep.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And now if you put attack above defense for some
reason since nineteenla, being attack mined doesn't help your defense,
but being defense minded helps your.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Attack most definitely.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And the Warriors, the Warriors have wrestled that the last
couple of years as well. When they had that really
successful season in twenty twenty three, if you look at
the way they started the season. It was very conservative football.
It was let's conserve most of our energy by getting
into defensively, and things stemmed off that. I thought last
year they ventured away from that round one against the Raiders,
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they ventured away round two. They get back to that,
get back to that blueprint that work served them so well.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Another zero to two team, the Dragons.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Flane's comments about luck nearly is he would have liked
to take those words back.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I think it was really strange and it's hard to
comment because you're not in the sanctum.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
You don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Lachlan Newis didn't play his best game. It's round two,
young half back, new to the club, and he had
a little crack at him. Well, no, it didn't. He
actually he didn't defend him when a reporter asked, Yeah,
I find it strange. He knows Elie is better than
you and I, but he also knows what it takes
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to when a young half gets criticized, how hard that
can be to come back.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
From, particularly with Lachlan because you can see he's pretty sensitive.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Young Blake.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You just get the sense of playmakers. There's some playmakers
like a munster, like if you go with him all
you want, go on the press conference, kick him out
the ass, whatever. He'll just respond to it. But there's
other players who don't respond to that. And Lachlan's had
a very difficult last eight months at saus you know,
leaving there, he's gone through through a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And so I know that I know Flannel has rung
him and apologize. Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I don't think a private apology equates to.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
A public's interesting to see how that happens, because you know, again,
I don't know. I'm just judging from the outside looking in,
Like him and Flannagan bent Hunt had.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Their issues whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, yeah, and let's see if flaklands Maybe he just.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Doesn't like half backs Flanner, who knows he doesn't like you?
And I yeah, well after tonight, I reckon he won't. Hey,
just before we go, well under the Bulldogs they have
with a lot of expectation on their shoulders. Two tricky games.
First up, they've looked fantastic kick out Burton kick out button. Yeah, yeah,
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that's going to be a test. Interesting to see what
they'll do. If Toby Sexton then Drew Hutcheson can work together,
play together, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Might a little bit pass happy.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He might look to put a big, big, rugged, strong
body in the six jersey.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, like like from defensively, I think they still have
the mojo to work for each other and stop up opposition.
But just confidence and belief and presence that you know,
Toby Sexton or someone else looks over the other side
of the field on their left side and there's no
Burton kickout there. When they put it together, the left
side is red hot with a threat to kick out.
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A good balance of what Burt was doing before he
got in.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Cherry ye yeah, yeah, Burton, that's such such a weapon.
We talked about how Penris Breton butter is kick long
or kick high and pin.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Them on their own line.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well, that's what Burton's good at, those satanic bombs he
puts up.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Please leave me out of that
I said at the starting year, I taught Adam Field
Blake will be by the season and I'll stand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
By it, but I'll tee it to Rell May. He
started the season.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
His performance yesterday and seventy three minutes and the quality
of his work.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
He's been the most dominant forward in the park for
both the Tigers performances and great yesterday. But that first
half yesterday made it was. It was uninspiring from both teams,
like it was there for the taking and all one
team had to do after about twenty minutes was complete.
The next five sets, they would have scored one or
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two tries. I thought the Tigers obviously got their game together,
defended pretty well for the majority of the game. But
the reason why they got to think it was sixteen
l at halftime is with fatigue and both teams not
playing well, anyone with footwork that had energy that went
to the contest and did.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Something fast came up with a play.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Luckie Galvin came up with one, and Durine Buller on
that kick return all of a sudden just saw tired,
lazy defenders and went for it. So there's one thing
that I thought Jerome Lee should have with appy Corus.
How was there was acres of space in the middle
third of the field in the paramount of defense if
they had have just used some of that forward momentum
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from Tyrell may quick play the ball, run scoot run
as opposed to pass past pass because there was a
couple of players. I just thought from the Tigers that
was static, it was slow. It was just this is
a training run. Will stop pass, stop pass, stop pass.
Paramatta's defense ate them up and there was an error,
but just needed to be more dynamic as opposed to
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has been.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, passes the ball become runners.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
What we're seeing, coops, with the tendencies in the game,
I'm looking where these upsets are driven by and good
performances are driven by. And it's a lot of times
the outside backs getting into the middle because with the
fast rucks, I just said, that's where the space and
making those big opposition middles miss and fatiguing them and
it all just rolls from there. Yeah, the Tigers in
the first half, coops, they lack decisiveness in that first
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thirty minutes, watching them and watching them come out of yardage,
I didn't know whether they want to go forward or
they want to push it through the hands.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
There was a little bit of this, little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Of that, and that's a consequence Jerome and Lucky Galvin
put themselves under a bit of pressure. If the Tigers,
I think he'd be far better served, no fuss coming
out of trouble. Right drive, drive, drive, drive, Get yourself
in a position maybe for an attacking kick.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Knock it down the other end. If you want to
push the ball wide and this opportunity, just get it there.
But there was just at.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Times in that first thirty minutes they were betwixt and between.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I like what Lucky Galvin brings like he's energetic, like
he just wants to be involved. He'll turn up on
the left hand short side, he'd be two passes wide
on the right. He's just wanting to be involved in
the game. He needs to hold onto that. I think
Jerome Leui doesn't need to fall into this game manager
with the seventies back where he just shovel pass, shovel pass,
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and when he steps he's stepping sideways. I think he
needs to go forward. Yeah, all his good stuff at
Penrith when he was running he had forward momentum and
then it was left foot, left foot. He just needs
to get back into being run the ball, because if
he had a round the ball yesterday, I'm pretty certain
he scores a try, sets up another and it's a
more dominant performance.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Halfway through the year.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Last year, when Origin just emerged, he found his best
football because there was more step accelerate rather than step
and step, and you know he's you can see at
the moment.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
There were a few things during the game.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I watched him and he was trying to corral the
players into shape and I was struggling getting there.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
There was once from a.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Scrum, a player was supposed to run a certain line.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He missed his cue. I saw Jerome get into him.
He's wrestling with a lot of that stuff at the moment.
To come from a system in Penrith where the players
are locked into position, you see blokes, two or three
blokes at a time, swinging from edge to wedge. It's
so coordinated. And to be in that machine for a
long time then suddenly go into a new team with
new combinations and trying to corral them, it's very difficult.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, there was a player in the second half earlier.
It was it was ripped. It was slow, it was bad.
It was shovel pass. Shovel pass end up being an
error on the on the on the extreme side. But
if it had just been maybe dummy half front, just
forward through us, then Jerome gets it and he might
bounce off his left and go forward and there's a
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inside pass.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You know, all these things they'll be able to tinker with.
I think they'd be Tiger's fans going Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Boys. We did win, which they did, like.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know, and I thought, with how coming back dream Buller,
I had a feeling they're going to do a job
on paramatter. At the moment, paramatter in a very dark place.
But but I think there were some things in that game.
For if your Tiger supporter gives you of optimism where
their season can go.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
There's something great about our game when the Tigers are
winning and smiling. Oh yeah, they were through Ofver scored
a couple, he was pumped up, the crowd was getting involved.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
But what do you make a para matter.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Look at the moment.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
A lot of those young rookies just find themselves at
the moment out of their depths. A lot of them
have come into the side at the same time. I
don't know many teams in the modern era where all
young guys just come into his side and suddenly everything clicks.
You go through hard times. I remember that Manly Side
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and Canberra with a green Machine. Guys come through and
they sort of picked up and they were surrounded by
a lot of experience as well. So they're in a
very very difficult situation and Coops they're operating without their
steering well, which is Mitchell moses that that makes things
very very difficult. I feel for Jason Rowles's walked into
excuse the French a complete shit fight, you know, with
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Dylan Brown leaving and all these other factors.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
I will say this, I picked up something interesting. Lomax
was the big off season signing. Wanted to play center,
wants to dominate the center position. He's spent three months
sort of practicing the yard of defending back in the centers.
He does get caught out against Melbourne Storm a couple
of times, but then to start the game on the weekend,
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he's defending on the wing and attacking in the centers,
which I thought was I don't know if it was
Lomax's call Jason's call, but that was a little bit
strange to see that unfolded.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I actually, if I'm Jason, I like that, Coops, because
I think Jason Rowles looks at the team and says, right,
where are my experienced guys?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Who are the guys that can win a game for me?
Speaker 1 (06:50):
And there's only a couple there, and he's one of them.
And I think he looks at it rosy and says, look,
I'm just going to work out a system of play
where i can get as much as I can out
of Zach. Look, I don't think Zach has a problem
doing that. It's the guy he plays alongside, you know,
he mirrors it. He's got to do the opposite. That's
typically three young player.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
And I will say this, I think Junior Barlow needs
to lead at those stages. Yesterday Did he fly out
of line and try and rattle the Tiger's defender? Did
skittle defenders carrying the ball like he just needs to lead.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
The concern Coops in Paramatta is that when the Tigers scored,
like there's a lot of areas both sides, but Penrith
dug him defensively and they repelled him a few times.
But once the Tigers got that first try, you could
see their defensive effort start to subside, and that tried
before halftime just killed them.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
On a On another note, what about your Roosters. In
my time in rugby league, I'm trying to think of
a bigger upset.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
I remember the Roosters one year winning the competition and
the goal case sped him in the last game of
the round, which are about ten eleven to one. But
who thinks about odds and winning money? But that one
eleven to one to start the game. The Roosters look coops.
They scored thirty eight points. But upsets are driven by
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defense and high pressure defense. Defense within defense wins matches,
defense wins comps because defenses desire.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's what it is.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And you can see they'd burned their bondet after the
week before, and rightfully so. Their sword had been sharpened
by all the criticism. And let's not take anything away
from the Roosters, but they came up against a side
who all week have been told you're going to win
by fifty sixty points, eleven to one, twelve to one.
Is this the biggest despised outsiders in modern history of
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the game. And I got no doubt that bled into them.
Now what fed that was Alimity scoring that frightfully That's
where they scored and I thought to myself, wow this
is and I reckon They probably thought the same thing.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
And one thing for the Roosters was Panthers probably played
an average game. They still scored thirty two points and
they went within a centimeter potentially sent it to golden points.
So the ability for Penrith, even though they're not playing
well is to still compete on every play.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
We've seen this previous seasons have we you know, they
build into their year and they have a game like
this last year they knocked over by Wigan and a
couple of years ago though they'll beat in the early rounds.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
But I think one thing that the Roosters did well
is probably the first time in a while, the tall
timber of say Daniel Tupo and Dominic Young really exposed
sort of doing Edwards Bryan Tott and the smaller back
three where they were just jumping up and catching everything
or competing for things.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
And I think Melbourne actually.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Did it at Penrith when they beat them basically for
the minor premiership at home last year too, So that
might be something that teams with bigger our side bags
might try and do.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
A lot of Not a lot has been made of this,
but the move from Penrith Park or Blue Belt Stadium
to Combat.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Will be it will be a factor this year.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
How big a fact of that.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
As far as minor premierships like I still see them
in the top four.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
But put it this way, Coops, I reckon Penrith Park.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I reckon a lot of size that would travel out
there on a Friday or Saturday night would be beaten
before they get off the bus. It's just such a
tough place to win. And it's just that that's say
it's a furnace with all the Panthers fans. I liken
it Coop to the Broncos. In the early nineties, early
actually right through the mid nineties, they moved out of
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Lange Park while it was getting redone and they went
to a Q two stadium iet what it was called
sixty four thousand people.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
It was such it was an awful place to play.
Although there were.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Sixty thousand people, it was a long way away, a
little bit like the old Stadium Australia when it was
the Olympic track on there. But the Broncos loved it
because it was such a tough place to go, and
you did. I didn't like playing there, and the parents
didn't like playing there. Their win rate was about damn
good side but coops. Then they moved back to their
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home sun Corp Stadium.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
But everyone else loved me. The other sides love playing
there as well.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
I'll give you that.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I think some teams that played pen at Penweth Park
would have been half beaten before they arrived. But I
think Penrith, on the other hand, have this mindset of
they'll play anyone anywhere. I don't know if Penrith would
suffer from not playing at home because they've just got
this ability to play the core play at some court,
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play at Las Vegas still get the job done. But
I'll give you the tip that maybe other teams feel
a little bit more happier that they don't have to
go to.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
What about you, blokes, the Old Olympic Park. What a
mass of a place that was, What an awful place.
And then you move into Amy Park and like the
winning continues, but for opposing teams, such a better place
to play.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
So in winter at the Old Olympic Park, Bellamy would
never let us wear a jumper. It's three degrees outside
on a Saturday night. Refuse for us to run out
and the warm up and wear a jumper. But he
always said, if the opposition's wearing a jacket, we've got
a beat before they start. And you run out for
warm up and you see maybe six of the guys
wearing their hoodie or a bit of a jackety go.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Yep, we've got them tonight.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Oh okay, another side, who the upsets? Yeah? The upset? Well,
let's it's Warriors.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
I loved about the Warriors that they robbed to self
correct themselves after Vegas. I thought in Vegas they just
they pushed the ball unnecessarily to the edge all the
time trying to create. When you've got two, you got
seven and six there in Metcalf and Schnelle who knew
that are really game managers.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
So you need Wade Eagan to be the.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Focal point of your attack and lead the attack. And
they enable to do that because they did less. They centralized.
They play far more north south, and with Egan running
the show in the middle, it allowed Metcalf and Chanelle
to sit back and actually play to their strengths.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Run the football.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I thought Egan was good, and I will say this
about the Warriors. A lot of people wrote them off
after their Vegas performance, and if you go back and
watch the manly game, I think Turbo scored within the
first few minutes. The Warriors actually come up with some
pretty poor play inside the first ten minutes, like some
really disconnected play, but the temperament of Egan, but Metcalf
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as well to hold their nerve and then hit the
gas and come up some pretty good football. Metcalf is
a running half back and once he loses that strength,
I think the Warriors will struggle.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So he needs to run the ball a lot.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And I like Chanelle too. Chanelle in Vegas really only
ran the ball once. He's a beautiful, sweet left foot.
He went bang, went half through and you can see
he'd gone back. Had to look at his game and
realized he was just trying to finest the ball around
get back to his strength. About four or five times
against mainly he come off the left and went half through.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So Webster was at Penrith and sort of contribute to
the attacking system that they run out there, and he's
bought that to the Warriors and metcalf runs the cleary system.
You've got Harris Tavita on the left and you've got
Charms on the right, and the threat of running that
metcalf provides it opens up some passing lanes for everyone else.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Well, that's the thing like oftentimes, Coop.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
We always think traditionally if fords go forward as the
crowd space for the halves, but sometimes the halves can
take you forward as well. You know, check off a
right foot metcalf off of right foot, goes halfway through,
Wade Egan sweeps the way he goes, you know, just
building off that fast momentum.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
And one of the other upsets was the Raiders the
fancied Broncos.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
That was a coaching.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Master class from Ricky, like he's been doing it a
long time. But everyone expected Brisbane to go there and
dominate like they did the Roosters. And it looks like
Ricky did the old no tarpany but did the old
like you know, how you match up the player for
player and say, hey, you need to dominate your opposition players. Tonight,
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what probably in Hawesbury did to stop pass and Carrigan tremendous.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And zach Oskin too yep, Zach was very very good.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Very good, and then Foggy outplayed Reynolds. Like it's almost
that Ricky did the old individual matchup and so you
dominate your individual player and we'll go on and win.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
And Jina Coop watching that game, it's like I've always
been a strong believer, always been a strong believer. Is
that every team must develop their own unique.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Style of playing. Right. So if you've got a unique stra.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Particularly if you're a club who's you know, toward the
bottom end around the mid table, if you want to
beat the top size, you can't play Diet Melbourne, Diet Penrith.
You have to establish your own special style of football
and then and if you can impose that style on
the contest, you can cause an upset. That's what the
Raiders have got. Raiders are playing very different to everyone.
There's such a fast moving site. Everyone's got footwork. They
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bring those young, fast guys through the middle, make the
big opposition forwards miss and they just build from there.
I just like the fact that they have got their
own style. That is crucial to their success.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Well said Chris has started really well. Timiko on the
other side very good. So they've got threat to go
apart on either side of the park, and they're forwards.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
That's their strength. That's ultimately about strange.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Just two sides who are on the end of those
upsets until wet Broncos. And second, but mainly we said
last week, manly, you've got to be careful about falling
in love with mainly.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, when they're on their on and when they're bad,
they're bad. And we said that against the Cowboys that
when they get they're attacking mindset on, they are great.
But can they defend the long periods of time? Can
they play when slow play the balls?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
All that thing comes to their style of game and
the Broncos well, I managed said after the game he
said he's found out some new things about his sight.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Didn't say what they were.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
I'm guessing that Michael McGuire showed a lot of opportunities
for the Broncos to score points. This is me guessing
because he said, I've learned a lot about my team
and how to get them ready. And sometimes when you
show a lot of vision to let's say Reese Walsh
and Ben Han and all those guys, about how much
opportunity there is a score points if you get the
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roll of sleeves up and do the dirty work first.
You go straight into try assist mode. And Walsh had
some errors. But knowing Michael McGuire from his history, I
think he may have been a bit too how can
I say, fluffy in his approach maybe and too positive.
Maybe he had to dial it back and say, hey,
we're playing at Ricky Stewart here, it's going to be
a dog.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
For well, that's what Ricky would have done.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yeah, regardless of their victory in Vegas, Ricky would have
found a way through the week be agitated about something
that puts his sides on their toes.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
And that's the thing, coops. If you're you're a top
line team and.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You want to beat an underdog, you beat an underdog
by playing like an underdog.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
That's what Penrith's is such a great side.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Regardless over the last four years, who've they've come up
against is the generally exception the other night, but they
have an established style of football. They're ruthless with working
down the field, kick down the far end, pin the
opposition against their line and just beat the shit out
of them and take your game from there. A little
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bit like talking about the sports is like Jordan's Chicago
bulls would come up against sides who will be all
fired up to beat them, but Jordan riding those bulls.
The nature of Jordan and what a competitor he was. Again,
they would beat underdogs with an underdog mentality.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
What about the Dolphins.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Dolphins, they've been really disappointing the first week. You could
forgive it, Coops, because all.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The circumstances with the floods and keymen didn't come down.
But they'll pour against Newcastle. The concern, Coop was how
slow moving it was. I could see what they're trying
to do a little bit like we said about the
Warriors in their first round in Vegas, is that they
are trying to find creativity and points by going wide
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all the time. And if you're going to strip numbers, Coop,
as you know, is that the immediacy is that whether
it's off the seven or the nine or the six,
that first little bit that your play to the sweep
option has got to be so tight and so fast
to start that stripping process.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
They are so loose and so slow they just ended
up in the green stand.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
They look like they are working to a field position,
just slowly and one out and then they run their
main play and they go, why didn't that work. I'll
tell you why it didn't work. There's zero rock speed
ability to create a quicker play the ball, and it
just was sidewise, sideways, sideways, and Cartower set up one
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and scored one. And if you go back and look,
he actually changes speed and that's the reason why he
scores and sets one up because he goes from slow
to fast and it catches his defense out.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
So they need a little bit more athleticism play the
ball speed and just something to get the fence not
moving forward, staying back.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
It was interesting that game just was watching trends.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Newcast most and Newcastles tries come as a result of
a certain shape called split shape, which is one under
one short he can go out the back with. It's
a really good run pass option play. And both both
the Dolphins tries come of that same shape. It's good
for Katoa and it's good for players like Calum Ponga
and the Fletcher Sharp because it enables you to run
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still that pass option.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yeah, but if Carto hadn't changed speed, he doesn't go
through through that That was the thing for me, seeing
that everything else was slow, but he went fast and
that changed the play.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Got some concerns around the Cowboys season that sort.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
For the game, Toddy Peyton said, they asked what are
you looking for? He used words to the extent of
I want my side looking for collision, chase the collision,
which means he wants them to play physical, he wants
them to play tough. And I don't think they got
the mema.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
No they are.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
They are so inconsistent, Like they beat the Melbourne Storm
in the last week of the preseason and looked good
and then there are two round games this year, I
mean very poor. I will say this that defensively, that's
ultimately where it sits that they need to be way
better one physical but also decision making on their edges.
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But when you've got people like Eden and drink Water,
in my opinion, I think you need back rollers that
are arrow straight going down the field, catching the eye
of defenders. So Didon can do his show and go
and go through and drink Water can do his thing
as well. When you've got back roles that want to
be passed the ball early or want to go underneath
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all the time. It's not good for someone's dynamic like Didon.
So defensively, they need to improve one thousand percent one
of their attacking stuff. They need straight runners to help
Diden and drink water do their.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Thing to sink coops getting the ball.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Players were wandering across the field, Players were overrunning them.
Players were running the wrong running the wrong gaps. They
are running into.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Each other at points. It was for a team.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
My knock always in the last few years on the
Cowboys is that they defend like they're just waiting to
get the ball back. Hasn't been a problem with their attack.
They love attacking. But the other night their attack was shocking.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
But that's so hard to fathom because the year was
it twenty twenty two. They were all about defense was
they were all about chasing.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
It had the balance right, yep.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
And now if you put attack above defense for some
reason since nineteenla, being attack mined doesn't help your defense,
but being defense minded helps your.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Attack most definitely.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
And the Warriors, the Warriors have wrestled that the last
couple of years as well. When they had that really
successful season in twenty twenty three, if you look at
the way they started the season. It was very conservative football.
It was let's conserve most of our energy by getting
into defensively, and things stemmed off that. I thought last
year they ventured away from that round one against the Raiders,
(23:45):
they ventured away round two. They get back to that,
get back to that blueprint that work served them so well.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
Another zero to two team, the Dragons.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Flane's comments about luck nearly is he would have liked
to take those words back.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
I think it was really strange and it's hard to
comment because you're not in the sanctum.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
You don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Lachlan Newis didn't play his best game. It's round two,
young half back, new to the club, and he had
a little crack at him. Well, no, it didn't. He
actually he didn't defend him when a reporter asked, Yeah,
I find it strange. He knows Elie is better than
you and I, but he also knows what it takes
(24:30):
to when a young half gets criticized, how hard that
can be to come back.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
From, particularly with Lachlan because you can see he's pretty sensitive.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Young Blake.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
You just get the sense of playmakers. There's some playmakers
like a munster, like if you go with him all
you want, go on the press conference, kick him out
the ass, whatever. He'll just respond to it. But there's
other players who don't respond to that. And Lachlan's had
a very difficult last eight months at saus you know,
leaving there, he's gone through through a lot.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And so I know that I know Flannel has rung
him and apologize. Sometimes.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
I don't think a private apology equates to.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
A public's interesting to see how that happens, because you know, again,
I don't know. I'm just judging from the outside looking in,
Like him and Flannagan bent Hunt had.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Their issues whatever.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah, yeah, and let's see if flaklands Maybe he just.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Doesn't like half backs Flanner, who knows he doesn't like you?
And I yeah, well after tonight, I reckon he won't. Hey,
just before we go, well under the Bulldogs they have
with a lot of expectation on their shoulders. Two tricky games.
First up, they've looked fantastic kick out Burton kick out button. Yeah, yeah,
(25:43):
that's going to be a test. Interesting to see what
they'll do. If Toby Sexton then Drew Hutcheson can work together,
play together, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Might a little bit pass happy.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
He might look to put a big, big, rugged, strong
body in the six jersey.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
Yeah, like like from defensively, I think they still have
the mojo to work for each other and stop up opposition.
But just confidence and belief and presence that you know,
Toby Sexton or someone else looks over the other side
of the field on their left side and there's no
Burton kickout there. When they put it together, the left
side is red hot with a threat to kick out.
(26:20):
A good balance of what Burt was doing before he
got in.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Cherry ye yeah, yeah, Burton, that's such such a weapon.
We talked about how Penris Breton butter is kick long
or kick high and pin.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Them on their own line.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Well, that's what Burton's good at, those satanic bombs he
puts up.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
Please leave me out of that
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