August 18, 2025 • 25 mins
Matty & Cooper on Round 25's big issues, including Roosters & Storm utilising tall wingers & Broncos' potent attack. Plus preview of massive FNF.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Brod A Kops.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're certainly at the pointy end here, just quick before
we start, well under the Tiger isn't a Benji Marshall,
because you know, there was pressure there and a lot
of people talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Have they improved have they not?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But Benji held his nerve and they've been They've been fantastic, Blake.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
They've definitely improved. Nine wins for the season, the same
as Manly. They're coming off a very low base, but
they have improved that. He got some talent into the
joint YEP with may Lewi Taruva, and he stayed strong
and stoic in his belief because he had a lot
of things coming at Himlachlan Galvin leaving all that stuff,
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but he made a really cuple of tough decisions and
he's not at the end of it, but at least
there's some positivity on the Tiger's.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Got slightly on Dewey too.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
What's really important for Adam is that he doesn't try
to be a conventional heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Now he's taken his talents to the number.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
So we spoke about Jake Avarillo come in being good
for a week or two. Well, he's done well for
three weeks now he can't over engineer it. Just keep
doing what you're.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Doing, Xavier, Coach Daniel two.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
One of the main things we should take about last
week is the interpretation now the rule you can't defense.
You can't hit the attacking player in the end in
the air. Sorry, and Xavier and Daniel two are getting
to the point they're almost undefendable.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It was so good on the weekend when the ball
goes up, the adrenaline Russian exulting. But how do you
handle Coats? There's two ways. Brion tottl went to row
ten to get the run up to try and leap
up with Xavier Coats physically utmatched here, but he tried
his absolute backside off and still half a centimeter from it.
Here Codes has got the leg up. Brian Tottal comes
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back and tries to generate speed to jump up and
that left hand of Coach just comes up and is
the difference. I'm not sure what Total does next time
the Penrith Panthers play Melbourne Storm. But he tried his
backside off and still can't. There's centimeters in that still
can't get it. On the other side, Look what Twyla
is doing. It's almost Twyler's gone to the basketball box
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out Daniel Tuba to try and keep him off his
run and still.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Got an out muscle just gone around him. Tupo looked
as though he was sort of getting.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
To the twilight of his career and you know he's mate.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
He changed midway tow as to say, I can't compete,
so now I'm just going to let him catch it,
and sits under the drop zone, thinking I'll just wait
till Tubo catches it, gets his foot down, tries to
tackle him, separate. So what you do on Coats and Tubo,
I don't have the answer. Bit. Ultimately, you need a
bigger winger to opposite him and they need to jump
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up at the same time.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
The rooster fifty to fifty last week.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
For me, there was anomally in the odds with the
comp winning the competition. Yeah dogs last week at six
to one, and you had the Roosters win the comp
at forty one dollars yep.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
When they played each other.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
If you look at the market, it was a toss
of a coin near the way. And roosters have gone
into nineteen is now. They have shortened up massively Sam
Walker's made an enormous difference.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We'll get to seem in a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Just on talking about the bombs, I want to put
focus on the history of the game. I like talking
about the history of the game and for younger viewers
to know sort of where we come from and where
things are going. And the originator, the godfather of the
bomb was fella called Johnny Peared PDY. Just terrific player,
but one of the great blokes. PDY played in those
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great eastern suburb sides and then went to Paramatta and
he was his nickname was the Bomber. He was the
guy that really brought the bomb to be to be
really a big weapon.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Now, so what's a tactic in these days? What's the
tactic here?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well? Cook, what it was?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Okay, it was a fifty to fifty contest, knock it
up traditionary. But the other thing about a coop was
back in the day. In this instance, now, let's say,
is if you caught the ball in the end goal
you're a balmain player then, and you got hit the goal.
It wasn't twenty met to restart. It wasn't a twenty
met to restart. It was a repeat set. So this
was a tactic for the repeat set, and not just
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to score a tripe, but repeat set for extra possession. Now,
what's interesting, coop. Right through the sixties through to the eighties,
this was huge tactic in the game. Let's go forward.
Let's go forward now to the nine to eighty five
Grand Final and this was Kenry Bulldogs up against Saint
George Dragon's. Now what the tactic here or this tactic
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to find the game? They just kept putting the ball
up to the fullback. Burgess, look at this bang and
just kick all game.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Just got the ball back, just keep going the ball
back and it just went this is all in the
first half. This is early in the game.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So would I be right off the back of this
Grand final? They changed the rule.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They changed the rule straight after this Grand Final. They'd
realized what had happened and that this tactic was just
defining contests.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So that's where they made the decision.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay, so there's been an evolution into how they changed
the rule. Firstly, they said, right, the first interpretation was
if you put a bomb up within the attacking twenty
five quarter and the fullback diffused it, then twenty met.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
A roostat, but if you kicked it outside the twenty.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Five, it was play on. And then eventually it started
to get complicated. They went, you know what the bottom
line is, it's the fullback cash of the ball on
the fall in the end goal twenty met a restat.
It's tilled about the Broncos and the coops, no Adam Reynolds,
no Isramn. We spoke last week how important it was
for rus Wolf's to step up. I think his best
performance in eighteen months by.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
A country mile. Whatever he did before that game, bottle
it and release it again this weekend. He was dynamic,
he was dialed in. And we always say this about
fullbacks when they have a big game, it's almost key
to what their first touch was. Yeah, Bruce Walsh didn't
finesse it here straight back in the teeth of a
couple of kick returns, and then when he decided to
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hit the scoreboard have an impact forty twenty to start
the second half went on scored four tries. But the
Broncos have found their recipe with no Ezra Man and Reynolds.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yep, open up the.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Field, get Reswalsh involved. Because there was a try just
before halftime where they's played from that wide field position.
He was one on one with Isaiah Cartower this is
it here and just used his speed, set up his
outside man and Shibasaki comes back here and Reswalsh scores.
So for your team this weekend on Sunday afternoon, Jack Cooger, Arthur,
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the halves, the Brison and Broncos game plan should be
shift from wide field positions. Get Reswalsh one on one
and he will cause.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That ax's And we said that last week the Broncos
looked their best when they open the field up. And
even in that instance, they don't open the field right up.
They actually moved just before the scrum line. But even
then it's just enough for Walsh. He creates mismatches and
he burns that third last defender.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That is the look they need every game here from
the air on out until well even when Ezra and
Adam come back. But in the meantime, get your main
man involved because he was everywhere. He was brilliant. That's
his best performance in a long time in the Broncos jersey.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You know, really impressive about the Broncos to Coops's and
again we've spoken on this is we said, the next
step for the Broncos is going to be the ability
to continue to play the style of football they should play,
which is expansive, exciting football even when the game's on
the line.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Because they looked to me that they're a team.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That when they skipped clear a fair bit against a
few sides.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
In the last month, they look great.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
They put them down, but when the game was on
the line they were tightened. In this game against against
the Dolphins, there was periods there where the game was
in the balance and they continued to play this style
of football.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Reswalsh down a short side, Res Walsh on the long side. Right.
That's ulterately where it sits like. The confidence they played
was four tries in that second half. This try here,
the Walters kick was brilliant. Yeah, whatever they did, whatever
mindset they were in, that's the rinse and repeat for
the Broncos for the remainder of the year.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Fantastic as well.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
How good was he match up with Hammer?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It was so good.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
They both had a try early and Catoni stags like,
I don't know, he's gone on.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Another level this year on the losing side.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Fantastic to see Tray Fuller back he's come back from
an acl injury, really found his feet again and some
of the things he did in the game. He can
do things in the game others can't, like if you
look at a lot of the Indigenous players, this is
up one of.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
The better individual tries of the season. My second tackle,
big game Battle of Brisbane. He takes a hit up
into the teeth of the Broncos defense. Footwork, speed and
more so that gets in through. Is the courage?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And then he gets to the backfield he sets up
respokes with the dummy and try like.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That with a lot of the Indigenous players.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And I played with a lot of boys and the
ball just bounces from there.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Do they can k to the football?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Beautiful hands and the blake I talk about all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
The most natural footballer I ever played with was Owen Craigie.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I remember a game in the late nineties and made
he he did something here.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The game is amazing. This is it? Mind you?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He's a right foot, he's corner kicks on his right,
bounce back, scores to troll pretty good from Craigi.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But I like the lead up work. I'm not whose who.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That was, but that was amazing that someone it was
a tribute.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
About Indigenous Round. And the thing I love about Indigenous
round is the indigenous players are the best players in
the field. Yeah, like Cady Walker comes back from a
London different makes a huge difference. Sets up two tries
were always spoken about. To Tony Stags, Niko Hines was brilliant,
like in the history of Indigenous Round, like if you
go through and see who's the best play of the field,
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I'm going to say a large percientage are Indigenous players.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, without a doubt and Fuller and now one Joe
Gray is that this is the two guys who are
shortened stature, that they got fast feet and they're tough.
They didn't want to take them and it just shows
you in this modern game with sixty goes and the
fatigue through the middle of the ruck and that's where
the space is, how they use that to their advantage.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
We spoke about when was it a couple of weeks ago?
So Sous played the Titans and the week before Souths
got smashed by the Brison Broncos, and we said, if
they're going to avoid the woodenspoon, it's going to be
based on effort heart and character. Gray had three back
to back players three in a row that saved a try.
It was a try saving tackle. He got up close
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to the line, saved another one. Then he chased through
on the kick and I think it was Isaiah ai
in like a couple of minutes ago. He literally won
the game with that tackle. Yeah, broke through the line,
beautiful offloat. I think it was Junior Barla and the
lead up. But if he had missed that legs tackle
by half a meter, I think I only carries him
over and wins the game. Gray was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
If everyone's available.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Let's imagine going into the semifinals next week and at
South from the finals is a joy. Gray fullback Latrell
stays in the centers.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Look, that's a different scenario that I'm in a finals,
in a big game. I think Latrell needs to be
with the one.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But I'd have Gray fowardeen.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, but right now, playing next week, Latrell's back Gray
as fullback.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Coops just back on the roosters for second.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And I want to talk about Sam Walker, and I
want to give you a wrap here because because mate,
when Sam come into grade, and may you put a
lot of information when you worked really hard with him
and put a lot of work in. Now, this is
what I see with footballers right, particularly instinctive footballers, Like
he's the sort of kid seeing that he would be.
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He'd had a football in his hands and boots on
his feet before he was out of nappies and he
was just one of the best instinctive footballers I've seen.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
But instincts in the NRAL link and you carry so far.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
You have to have a football education and when you
go into an NRL system and you've just through on
your instincts and spot and what you're seeing playing reactive football,
being taught structure feels like you've been fitted for a
straight jacket and it takes a long time to sort
of blend those together and the work that you've put
into him.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Coop. I think these.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Twelve months he'll look back at the twelve months out
of the game and say it was actually a blessing
because it's enabled him to sit away from the week
to week pressure and actually process all the information.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And what you're seeing now at the moment is in
a really sweet spot instinct meets education and since he's
returned the best he has ever played.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But look at the difference in the roosters.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I think anyone who works with Sam like now or
into the future, you're never going to touch the cool
stuff like you just don't say, oh, don't do that anymore.
It's just like keep doing that, like back yourself. But
if you can pick up these basic fundamentals, I think
it will compliment. So he's played some really good games
for the Rousters. I would argue that's one of the
best based on a couple of things. He ran the football.
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He knew that Preston was going to come after him,
so he avoided contact by stepping weaving. And he still
had the cool, sexy things that we will marvel at
and the high real stuff. But the thing that I
was impressed with he kicked the ball to Tupo. He
saw that Tula was out of position and nervous. Normally
Sam would go for another trick shot over. He scored
that set up the trot, but he kept coming back.
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That's understanding the science of the game, and when it's
a game of chess is that you found a crack,
don't go away until they fix it. And they kept
I thought they'd put Crichtono the wing, but they didn't.
Kept toila the Sam kept kicking the ball a couple
of tries. Yeah, it was a pretty good performance. And
to be fair, I thought Hugo Savalla was very good too.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Mateops coops you mate.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
He has been so impressive and it's the explosion of
Sam coming back in his form that has sort.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Of stopped Higo getting the raps. He deserves this.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You know what I love for Beck Hugo is that
and and this has to be the basis when you
come through into the grades, you have to have really
strong core fundamentals. And if you look at it, mate,
he's very good at recognizing you know, three on two
situations he's got he's got nice hands, he's got a
beautiful pass and that is that's that is the core
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when you're a playmaker. I mean, if you look at
Newcastle yesterday, Newcastle a couple of times blue simple two
on one situations and if you look at those Tiger sides, right,
Benji talks about this all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's a nice player. So he's got really nice little
straight but.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
He understands the smarts of footing like he's intelligent because
he knows he's got a five on four advantage on
that play, so he just stays square and let's Tedesco
take advantage up against kickout. He would have seen vision
all week about our kickout flies out of line and
almost annihilates halves. He realizes that kickout sometimes does it,
so steps off the right, beats him with a bit
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of footwork and now he's starting to plan at that time,
just cops a whack and let's someone else to the
thing because he gets to his target defender. So again
running the football like he had a really good game
and he matched Matt Burton in the long kicking game.
He did like that, that's hard to do.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
That is hard to just that's nice, that's a beautiful play.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
But yeah, like Benji talks about, Sheensy was the same
before and he said that Sheen's just worked two on one,
three on two hands every session skill and they were
going on this again.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But it's the core fundamentals.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Now, you can have all the great attack and sequences
you want, but if your playmakers don't have those core fundamentals,
everything collapses. When you're a playmaker, as well as making
your pass easy to catch that makes sense, you know
what I mean? Like you know when you're a playmaker,
you know you're throwing to me or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Last thing you need is a ball that's coming.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
On that all the time and you go down Hugo
and blokeswil Wade Egan. It's just it rotates beautifully out
of the hands. You could see it's an.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Easy pass to catch. DC coops. We talked about see
him and you go.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's a big talking point at this time of the
year and what they're going to do.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, first and foremost well daily players Game three point
fifty this weekend should he should be celebrated as one
of the greatest manly Seagulls players of all time. He's
going through a tough spot at the moment, but whatever
celebrations I have, he deserves everything that's coming his way.
And you and I can speak to this because he's
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thirty six years of age, may or may not be
playing on next year. We've got no idea. But there's
one thing that you need to be able to do
as a half back at the later stages is you
need to stay physical. And on the weekend, there's a
couple of moments where we're daily sort of removed from physicality.
The ball goes through here and Daily has an opportunity
to come back through here on thruver and missed him.
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That's the hips tackle legs tackle every daily week. You
and I both know as a half, once you lose
that physical nature, no shoulder contact falling over, you're missing
the contest. And I feel like when it's this is
the defensive aspect of it. On the flip side, when
you're running the football, you need to be able to
take advantage of a run this one here, that is
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a left foot run. The ball carry over Dewey's score
every day of the week. Yep, he just finessed to
the left hand side. So the advice to Daily is
if you want to play on, do whatever, but find
your physicality. Because I know the back end of my career,
I limped to the finish line like getting a whack.
Squaring up the fenders wasn't enjoyable at thirty six years
of age, but you have to do it because it
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created space for other people. Once I stepped away from it,
that would have hurt the team's performance.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, I foind, that's like I back into my curse.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Started to get a lot of hamstring and soft tissue injuries,
and it was an awful feeling because in a game,
you're looking for space.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
All of a sudden, you know, when you got younger.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Legs, midway through your career, all of a sudden, there's
a space and you go through it. That's what you're
looking for at the very back in my last year,
like I'd see a little bit of space and I'd go,
oh no.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Defensively, defensively backroll, come out, you backpedal and just try
to absorb contact. In your twenties, you hit your shoulder
and you're taking to contact. So he just needs to
find the physicality.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It was in fact, talking to Brad Parker, who had
a terrific career Brad at Manly. I was talking to
him about, you know, the decision to retire, and he said,
I just kept breaking down.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He said it got.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
To the point that the boys would laugh at training
because trying to warm up it to take me so
long to gruse the wheels. And he said he knew
it was time because in the game he took an
intercept and as soon as he took the intercept, he
went off. You know what, I mean he's going on no,
you know, and it was like he was almost like
waiting for the defenders to catch up to him because
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he felt like he was about to tear something.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Did you have a moment at the back end when
you just knew you were done?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh, definitely last year, you know it's but yeah, you
actually the longer you ago, if you're not careful, like
you know through the crier, you start to suffer some
concussions and sometimes when you get to the very end,
you get more susceptible, get to the point you get
nicked on the chin.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And it was for me if there was if I
watched the game back and for example daily there against
the Tigers, if I saw that I didn't run the
ball because I passed, that was a sign for me
I didn't want to take it. He would have seen
that left foot back inside because he's a smart footy player,
but he just want he was moving two sideways and
wanted to shove off the past. What do you reckon
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about lade Egans service from best.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
In the game, he's the whast seven firstly.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Like and with centralize your attack, no doubt, mate, and
the Tanner Boyd and Chanel looked so comfortable with him there.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
But again you talk about kauf Hun.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
This bloke's got the best pass in the game, right,
and just the way links around the rucks. To god,
he's got a lot of camera and smith in him.
But just if you just watch the pass and it
comes out and it just rotates beautifully.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, if you're a playmaker and you'll.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
See at first receiver and copy it off wage you
can almost catch the ball blindfolded.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
They're just a replica. Every pass is a replication forever time.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Do you think it should be a spiral pass or
the traditional.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Six This is interesting, Coop.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
This is because I see when they're coming through the grades,
young school boys players, they get taught six o'clock passing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now for people don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It's basically where your hands go down and you pass
like that and the ball comes out over It rotates
over and over.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Right. We spoke about this before.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I agree with that when you go to the line,
if you go to the line holding the ball to
ad pudo style, as you said before, it becomes predictable.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
They can see that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
But your hips by mechanics I'm getting rid of in
a change but your hips drops and you don't have
good as.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Running through it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
When you hold the ball down nice and low, you
are more open to a short pass and be able
to run the ball. But coops, I think what's imperative.
If the pass is going to go more than five meters,
you've got to roll the wrists over the top and
get it rotating.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I don't want to catch.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I want to cop a long ball off you that's
sort of spinning and going up the lind.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I want nice rotation on the ball. That's just predictable.
I know where it's coming from.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I agree with you, and this is some top end
train spot and stuff. Now you need to have both
in your kid bag. As a ballplayer, if you are
continually holding the ball like this, that's going to be
a spiral. As a defender, I can see the hands
position like that and the majority of your past will
be long because you're looking for the spiral. Wade Egan
has a really soft spiral buss which helps right and
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on the vice versa. If you're holding at six o'clock,
you're most likely going to pass short majority of time.
But if you decide to go long, like you said,
you either have to rip that six o'clock buss or
you have to invert your hands and get the spiral
se because as a defender you can see things unfold
with the hand position on the ball. But on the
flip side, if you're playing a game of chess, you
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can manipulate that.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He just and when the ball comes out of Wave's hands,
like he catches the ball and he just sort of
gently throws it.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But the ball rotates really fast.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And they talk about in NFL football one of the
first things they talk about when they're scouting quarterbacks is
what's the rotation like out of the hand. It's just,
you know, we talk at core fundamentals that it's core
fundamental in that game.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Let's look ahead to next Friday.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It's the biggest night of rugby league so far this year,
Canberra versus Penrith. It's in Mudgie how Glen willows, how
good is that for Maugie feeding What a game one
of the games of the season. And then got stormed
the Dogs straight after that. Give me your thoughts on basis.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I think the Raiders stuff. I think a bit like
the Broncos. They can't start not playing that confidence style
because if they are five percent of a great defensive
team like Penrith will suffocate them. So wigs Strange said Chris.
They need to be lights out from the going confident
running the football when they normally see the thing about Penrith.
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I marvel at what they've done this year defensively, really strong,
but what makes their attack rock solid. There's a play
on the weekend. It was a lead up played to
the zaa papal. Everyone needs to be on the same
page and communication is the key. They're attacking to the
right to pick Melbourne on the left. Mitch Kenny knew
it was coming. If he's standing there, it shuts down
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that play and Casey McLain goes within a centimeter the
disjointed line and look at this Mitch Kenny removing back.
That's a set play to get McClain one on one
on the outside here with Nick.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Isn't there some sort of understanding to say, right, we're
going to hit him right on the far left side,
but we're going to state we're going to start almost
on the scrum line to the right, do an inside
block and start to mass.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So I can tell you what happened. Nathan clear would
have run past the rock and say, Mitch Kenny, this
players coming back and he's thrown the ball, And how
many times do we see players come back across the
field and plays in the road running front obstruction. This
is what made this is what makes pendrith a really
good sign.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Everyone dialed in, everyone's just synchronized. And that's and at
the start of the year, ushering all those young players
in McLean blaze all that, you can understand why it
was clunky because that's a that's a that's a complex attack.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And then so Panthers Raiders six o'clock got storm versus
the Dogs afterwards.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Dogs, Dogs have got to be very careful with their style.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Talking about complex attack, it's a complex game, you know,
like short passing. They don't they don't engage the middle lot.
A lot of it is short passing and sort.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Of pushing from edge to wedge. Very very clever football.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But you know, and I know that it irks the Dogs,
but it is true in slippery, wet conditions, it's it's
it can it's a problematic style at times you've really
got to be on your game. And sometimes Coop, I'm
watching them. The Dogs have got the propensity to beat
themselves because they're just determined to.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Play that style of football. Right.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I like the Dog's attack with Crichton moving to fallback
at different stages. Line up on Xavier.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Coats, that's a big one. I don't know what it
is for Marcela Montoya.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, she'll be a change that. I don't think twil
will be on the right wing against.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, it's a it's going to be fascinating game. It's
a really big game for the Dogs. I mean dogs,
big game for both sides. Storm win, they're right up
to their eyeballs and grab another minor premiership. And I
know you know more than anyone of the Melbourne Storm
how important that is for Craig and the top two spot.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But the Dogs will be they
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Will be more desperate because they need a big scalp
Brod A Kops.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
We're certainly at the pointy end here, just quick before
we start, well under the Tiger isn't a Benji Marshall,
because you know, there was pressure there and a lot
of people talking about.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Have they improved have they not?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
But Benji held his nerve and they've been They've been fantastic, Blake.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
They've definitely improved. Nine wins for the season, the same
as Manly. They're coming off a very low base, but
they have improved that. He got some talent into the
joint YEP with may Lewi Taruva, and he stayed strong
and stoic in his belief because he had a lot
of things coming at Himlachlan Galvin leaving all that stuff,
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but he made a really cuple of tough decisions and
he's not at the end of it, but at least
there's some positivity on the Tiger's.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Got slightly on Dewey too.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
What's really important for Adam is that he doesn't try
to be a conventional heartbeat.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Now he's taken his talents to the number.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
So we spoke about Jake Avarillo come in being good
for a week or two. Well, he's done well for
three weeks now he can't over engineer it. Just keep
doing what you're.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Doing, Xavier, Coach Daniel two.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
One of the main things we should take about last
week is the interpretation now the rule you can't defense.
You can't hit the attacking player in the end in
the air. Sorry, and Xavier and Daniel two are getting
to the point they're almost undefendable.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It was so good on the weekend when the ball
goes up, the adrenaline Russian exulting. But how do you
handle Coats? There's two ways. Brion tottl went to row
ten to get the run up to try and leap
up with Xavier Coats physically utmatched here, but he tried
his absolute backside off and still half a centimeter from it.
Here Codes has got the leg up. Brian Tottal comes
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back and tries to generate speed to jump up and
that left hand of Coach just comes up and is
the difference. I'm not sure what Total does next time
the Penrith Panthers play Melbourne Storm. But he tried his
backside off and still can't. There's centimeters in that still
can't get it. On the other side, Look what Twyla
is doing. It's almost Twyler's gone to the basketball box
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out Daniel Tuba to try and keep him off his
run and still.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Got an out muscle just gone around him. Tupo looked
as though he was sort of getting.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
To the twilight of his career and you know he's mate.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
He changed midway tow as to say, I can't compete,
so now I'm just going to let him catch it,
and sits under the drop zone, thinking I'll just wait
till Tubo catches it, gets his foot down, tries to
tackle him, separate. So what you do on Coats and Tubo,
I don't have the answer. Bit. Ultimately, you need a
bigger winger to opposite him and they need to jump
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up at the same time.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
The rooster fifty to fifty last week.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
For me, there was anomally in the odds with the
comp winning the competition. Yeah dogs last week at six
to one, and you had the Roosters win the comp
at forty one dollars yep.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
When they played each other.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
If you look at the market, it was a toss
of a coin near the way. And roosters have gone
into nineteen is now. They have shortened up massively Sam
Walker's made an enormous difference.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We'll get to seem in a minute.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Just on talking about the bombs, I want to put
focus on the history of the game. I like talking
about the history of the game and for younger viewers
to know sort of where we come from and where
things are going. And the originator, the godfather of the
bomb was fella called Johnny Peared PDY. Just terrific player,
but one of the great blokes. PDY played in those
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great eastern suburb sides and then went to Paramatta and
he was his nickname was the Bomber. He was the
guy that really brought the bomb to be to be
really a big weapon.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Now, so what's a tactic in these days? What's the
tactic here?
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well? Cook, what it was?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Okay, it was a fifty to fifty contest, knock it
up traditionary. But the other thing about a coop was
back in the day. In this instance, now, let's say,
is if you caught the ball in the end goal
you're a balmain player then, and you got hit the goal.
It wasn't twenty met to restart. It wasn't a twenty
met to restart. It was a repeat set. So this
was a tactic for the repeat set, and not just
(04:08):
to score a tripe, but repeat set for extra possession. Now,
what's interesting, coop. Right through the sixties through to the eighties,
this was huge tactic in the game. Let's go forward.
Let's go forward now to the nine to eighty five
Grand Final and this was Kenry Bulldogs up against Saint
George Dragon's. Now what the tactic here or this tactic
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to find the game? They just kept putting the ball
up to the fullback. Burgess, look at this bang and
just kick all game.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Just got the ball back, just keep going the ball
back and it just went this is all in the
first half. This is early in the game.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
So would I be right off the back of this
Grand final? They changed the rule.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
They changed the rule straight after this Grand Final. They'd
realized what had happened and that this tactic was just
defining contests.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So that's where they made the decision.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay, so there's been an evolution into how they changed
the rule. Firstly, they said, right, the first interpretation was
if you put a bomb up within the attacking twenty
five quarter and the fullback diffused it, then twenty met.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
A roostat, but if you kicked it outside the twenty.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Five, it was play on. And then eventually it started
to get complicated. They went, you know what the bottom
line is, it's the fullback cash of the ball on
the fall in the end goal twenty met a restat.
It's tilled about the Broncos and the coops, no Adam Reynolds,
no Isramn. We spoke last week how important it was
for rus Wolf's to step up. I think his best
performance in eighteen months by.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
A country mile. Whatever he did before that game, bottle
it and release it again this weekend. He was dynamic,
he was dialed in. And we always say this about
fullbacks when they have a big game, it's almost key
to what their first touch was. Yeah, Bruce Walsh didn't
finesse it here straight back in the teeth of a
couple of kick returns, and then when he decided to
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hit the scoreboard have an impact forty twenty to start
the second half went on scored four tries. But the
Broncos have found their recipe with no Ezra Man and Reynolds.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yep, open up the.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Field, get Reswalsh involved. Because there was a try just
before halftime where they's played from that wide field position.
He was one on one with Isaiah Cartower this is
it here and just used his speed, set up his
outside man and Shibasaki comes back here and Reswalsh scores.
So for your team this weekend on Sunday afternoon, Jack Cooger, Arthur,
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the halves, the Brison and Broncos game plan should be
shift from wide field positions. Get Reswalsh one on one
and he will cause.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
That ax's And we said that last week the Broncos
looked their best when they open the field up. And
even in that instance, they don't open the field right up.
They actually moved just before the scrum line. But even
then it's just enough for Walsh. He creates mismatches and
he burns that third last defender.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
That is the look they need every game here from
the air on out until well even when Ezra and
Adam come back. But in the meantime, get your main
man involved because he was everywhere. He was brilliant. That's
his best performance in a long time in the Broncos jersey.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
You know, really impressive about the Broncos to Coops's and
again we've spoken on this is we said, the next
step for the Broncos is going to be the ability
to continue to play the style of football they should play,
which is expansive, exciting football even when the game's on
the line.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Because they looked to me that they're a team.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
That when they skipped clear a fair bit against a
few sides.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
In the last month, they look great.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
They put them down, but when the game was on
the line they were tightened. In this game against against
the Dolphins, there was periods there where the game was
in the balance and they continued to play this style
of football.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Reswalsh down a short side, Res Walsh on the long side. Right.
That's ulterately where it sits like. The confidence they played
was four tries in that second half. This try here,
the Walters kick was brilliant. Yeah, whatever they did, whatever
mindset they were in, that's the rinse and repeat for
the Broncos for the remainder of the year.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Fantastic as well.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
How good was he match up with Hammer?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
It was so good.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
They both had a try early and Catoni stags like,
I don't know, he's gone on.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Another level this year on the losing side.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Fantastic to see Tray Fuller back he's come back from
an acl injury, really found his feet again and some
of the things he did in the game. He can
do things in the game others can't, like if you
look at a lot of the Indigenous players, this is
up one of.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
The better individual tries of the season. My second tackle,
big game Battle of Brisbane. He takes a hit up
into the teeth of the Broncos defense. Footwork, speed and
more so that gets in through. Is the courage?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And then he gets to the backfield he sets up
respokes with the dummy and try like.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
That with a lot of the Indigenous players.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
And I played with a lot of boys and the
ball just bounces from there.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Do they can k to the football?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Beautiful hands and the blake I talk about all the time.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
The most natural footballer I ever played with was Owen Craigie.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I remember a game in the late nineties and made
he he did something here.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
The game is amazing. This is it? Mind you?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
He's a right foot, he's corner kicks on his right,
bounce back, scores to troll pretty good from Craigi.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
But I like the lead up work. I'm not whose who.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That was, but that was amazing that someone it was
a tribute.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
About Indigenous Round. And the thing I love about Indigenous
round is the indigenous players are the best players in
the field. Yeah, like Cady Walker comes back from a
London different makes a huge difference. Sets up two tries
were always spoken about. To Tony Stags, Niko Hines was brilliant,
like in the history of Indigenous Round, like if you
go through and see who's the best play of the field,
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I'm going to say a large percientage are Indigenous players.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, without a doubt and Fuller and now one Joe
Gray is that this is the two guys who are
shortened stature, that they got fast feet and they're tough.
They didn't want to take them and it just shows
you in this modern game with sixty goes and the
fatigue through the middle of the ruck and that's where
the space is, how they use that to their advantage.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
We spoke about when was it a couple of weeks ago?
So Sous played the Titans and the week before Souths
got smashed by the Brison Broncos, and we said, if
they're going to avoid the woodenspoon, it's going to be
based on effort heart and character. Gray had three back
to back players three in a row that saved a try.
It was a try saving tackle. He got up close
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to the line, saved another one. Then he chased through
on the kick and I think it was Isaiah ai
in like a couple of minutes ago. He literally won
the game with that tackle. Yeah, broke through the line,
beautiful offloat. I think it was Junior Barla and the
lead up. But if he had missed that legs tackle
by half a meter, I think I only carries him
over and wins the game. Gray was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
If everyone's available.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Let's imagine going into the semifinals next week and at
South from the finals is a joy. Gray fullback Latrell
stays in the centers.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Look, that's a different scenario that I'm in a finals,
in a big game. I think Latrell needs to be
with the one.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
But I'd have Gray fowardeen.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, but right now, playing next week, Latrell's back Gray
as fullback.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Coops just back on the roosters for second.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
And I want to talk about Sam Walker, and I
want to give you a wrap here because because mate,
when Sam come into grade, and may you put a
lot of information when you worked really hard with him
and put a lot of work in. Now, this is
what I see with footballers right, particularly instinctive footballers, Like
he's the sort of kid seeing that he would be.
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He'd had a football in his hands and boots on
his feet before he was out of nappies and he
was just one of the best instinctive footballers I've seen.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
But instincts in the NRAL link and you carry so far.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
You have to have a football education and when you
go into an NRL system and you've just through on
your instincts and spot and what you're seeing playing reactive football,
being taught structure feels like you've been fitted for a
straight jacket and it takes a long time to sort
of blend those together and the work that you've put
into him.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Coop. I think these.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Twelve months he'll look back at the twelve months out
of the game and say it was actually a blessing
because it's enabled him to sit away from the week
to week pressure and actually process all the information.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
And what you're seeing now at the moment is in
a really sweet spot instinct meets education and since he's
returned the best he has ever played.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
But look at the difference in the roosters.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I think anyone who works with Sam like now or
into the future, you're never going to touch the cool
stuff like you just don't say, oh, don't do that anymore.
It's just like keep doing that, like back yourself. But
if you can pick up these basic fundamentals, I think
it will compliment. So he's played some really good games
for the Rousters. I would argue that's one of the
best based on a couple of things. He ran the football.
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He knew that Preston was going to come after him,
so he avoided contact by stepping weaving. And he still
had the cool, sexy things that we will marvel at
and the high real stuff. But the thing that I
was impressed with he kicked the ball to Tupo. He
saw that Tula was out of position and nervous. Normally
Sam would go for another trick shot over. He scored
that set up the trot, but he kept coming back.
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That's understanding the science of the game, and when it's
a game of chess is that you found a crack,
don't go away until they fix it. And they kept
I thought they'd put Crichtono the wing, but they didn't.
Kept toila the Sam kept kicking the ball a couple
of tries. Yeah, it was a pretty good performance. And
to be fair, I thought Hugo Savalla was very good too.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Mateops coops you mate.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
He has been so impressive and it's the explosion of
Sam coming back in his form that has sort.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Of stopped Higo getting the raps. He deserves this.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
You know what I love for Beck Hugo is that
and and this has to be the basis when you
come through into the grades, you have to have really
strong core fundamentals. And if you look at it, mate,
he's very good at recognizing you know, three on two
situations he's got he's got nice hands, he's got a
beautiful pass and that is that's that is the core
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when you're a playmaker. I mean, if you look at
Newcastle yesterday, Newcastle a couple of times blue simple two
on one situations and if you look at those Tiger sides, right,
Benji talks about this all the time.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's a nice player. So he's got really nice little
straight but.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
He understands the smarts of footing like he's intelligent because
he knows he's got a five on four advantage on
that play, so he just stays square and let's Tedesco
take advantage up against kickout. He would have seen vision
all week about our kickout flies out of line and
almost annihilates halves. He realizes that kickout sometimes does it,
so steps off the right, beats him with a bit
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of footwork and now he's starting to plan at that time,
just cops a whack and let's someone else to the
thing because he gets to his target defender. So again
running the football like he had a really good game
and he matched Matt Burton in the long kicking game.
He did like that, that's hard to do.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
That is hard to just that's nice, that's a beautiful play.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
But yeah, like Benji talks about, Sheensy was the same
before and he said that Sheen's just worked two on one,
three on two hands every session skill and they were
going on this again.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
But it's the core fundamentals.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Now, you can have all the great attack and sequences
you want, but if your playmakers don't have those core fundamentals,
everything collapses. When you're a playmaker, as well as making
your pass easy to catch that makes sense, you know
what I mean? Like you know when you're a playmaker,
you know you're throwing to me or vice versa.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Last thing you need is a ball that's coming.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
On that all the time and you go down Hugo
and blokeswil Wade Egan. It's just it rotates beautifully out
of the hands. You could see it's an.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Easy pass to catch. DC coops. We talked about see
him and you go.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
It's a big talking point at this time of the
year and what they're going to do.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, first and foremost well daily players Game three point
fifty this weekend should he should be celebrated as one
of the greatest manly Seagulls players of all time. He's
going through a tough spot at the moment, but whatever
celebrations I have, he deserves everything that's coming his way.
And you and I can speak to this because he's
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thirty six years of age, may or may not be
playing on next year. We've got no idea. But there's
one thing that you need to be able to do
as a half back at the later stages is you
need to stay physical. And on the weekend, there's a
couple of moments where we're daily sort of removed from physicality.
The ball goes through here and Daily has an opportunity
to come back through here on thruver and missed him.
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That's the hips tackle legs tackle every daily week. You
and I both know as a half, once you lose
that physical nature, no shoulder contact falling over, you're missing
the contest. And I feel like when it's this is
the defensive aspect of it. On the flip side, when
you're running the football, you need to be able to
take advantage of a run this one here, that is
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a left foot run. The ball carry over Dewey's score
every day of the week. Yep, he just finessed to
the left hand side. So the advice to Daily is
if you want to play on, do whatever, but find
your physicality. Because I know the back end of my career,
I limped to the finish line like getting a whack.
Squaring up the fenders wasn't enjoyable at thirty six years
of age, but you have to do it because it
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created space for other people. Once I stepped away from it,
that would have hurt the team's performance.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, I foind, that's like I back into my curse.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Started to get a lot of hamstring and soft tissue injuries,
and it was an awful feeling because in a game,
you're looking for space.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
All of a sudden, you know, when you got younger.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Legs, midway through your career, all of a sudden, there's
a space and you go through it. That's what you're
looking for at the very back in my last year,
like I'd see a little bit of space and I'd go,
oh no.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Defensively, defensively backroll, come out, you backpedal and just try
to absorb contact. In your twenties, you hit your shoulder
and you're taking to contact. So he just needs to
find the physicality.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It was in fact, talking to Brad Parker, who had
a terrific career Brad at Manly. I was talking to
him about, you know, the decision to retire, and he said,
I just kept breaking down.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He said it got.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
To the point that the boys would laugh at training
because trying to warm up it to take me so
long to gruse the wheels. And he said he knew
it was time because in the game he took an
intercept and as soon as he took the intercept, he
went off. You know what, I mean he's going on no,
you know, and it was like he was almost like
waiting for the defenders to catch up to him because
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he felt like he was about to tear something.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Did you have a moment at the back end when
you just knew you were done?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Oh, definitely last year, you know it's but yeah, you
actually the longer you ago, if you're not careful, like
you know through the crier, you start to suffer some
concussions and sometimes when you get to the very end,
you get more susceptible, get to the point you get
nicked on the chin.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And it was for me if there was if I
watched the game back and for example daily there against
the Tigers, if I saw that I didn't run the
ball because I passed, that was a sign for me
I didn't want to take it. He would have seen
that left foot back inside because he's a smart footy player,
but he just want he was moving two sideways and
wanted to shove off the past. What do you reckon
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about lade Egans service from best.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
In the game, he's the whast seven firstly.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Like and with centralize your attack, no doubt, mate, and
the Tanner Boyd and Chanel looked so comfortable with him there.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
But again you talk about kauf Hun.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
This bloke's got the best pass in the game, right,
and just the way links around the rucks. To god,
he's got a lot of camera and smith in him.
But just if you just watch the pass and it
comes out and it just rotates beautifully.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, if you're a playmaker and you'll.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
See at first receiver and copy it off wage you
can almost catch the ball blindfolded.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
They're just a replica. Every pass is a replication forever time.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Do you think it should be a spiral pass or
the traditional.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Six This is interesting, Coop.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
This is because I see when they're coming through the grades,
young school boys players, they get taught six o'clock passing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
Now for people don't know what that is.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It's basically where your hands go down and you pass
like that and the ball comes out over It rotates
over and over.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Right. We spoke about this before.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I agree with that when you go to the line,
if you go to the line holding the ball to
ad pudo style, as you said before, it becomes predictable.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
They can see that.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
But your hips by mechanics I'm getting rid of in
a change but your hips drops and you don't have
good as.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Running through it.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
When you hold the ball down nice and low, you
are more open to a short pass and be able
to run the ball. But coops, I think what's imperative.
If the pass is going to go more than five meters,
you've got to roll the wrists over the top and
get it rotating.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I don't want to catch.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I want to cop a long ball off you that's
sort of spinning and going up the lind.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
I want nice rotation on the ball. That's just predictable.
I know where it's coming from.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I agree with you, and this is some top end
train spot and stuff. Now you need to have both
in your kid bag. As a ballplayer, if you are
continually holding the ball like this, that's going to be
a spiral. As a defender, I can see the hands
position like that and the majority of your past will
be long because you're looking for the spiral. Wade Egan
has a really soft spiral buss which helps right and
(21:31):
on the vice versa. If you're holding at six o'clock,
you're most likely going to pass short majority of time.
But if you decide to go long, like you said,
you either have to rip that six o'clock buss or
you have to invert your hands and get the spiral
se because as a defender you can see things unfold
with the hand position on the ball. But on the
flip side, if you're playing a game of chess, you
(21:52):
can manipulate that.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He just and when the ball comes out of Wave's hands,
like he catches the ball and he just sort of
gently throws it.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But the ball rotates really fast.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And they talk about in NFL football one of the
first things they talk about when they're scouting quarterbacks is
what's the rotation like out of the hand. It's just,
you know, we talk at core fundamentals that it's core
fundamental in that game.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Let's look ahead to next Friday.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
It's the biggest night of rugby league so far this year,
Canberra versus Penrith. It's in Mudgie how Glen willows, how
good is that for Maugie feeding What a game one
of the games of the season. And then got stormed
the Dogs straight after that. Give me your thoughts on basis.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I think the Raiders stuff. I think a bit like
the Broncos. They can't start not playing that confidence style
because if they are five percent of a great defensive
team like Penrith will suffocate them. So wigs Strange said Chris.
They need to be lights out from the going confident
running the football when they normally see the thing about Penrith.
(22:55):
I marvel at what they've done this year defensively, really strong,
but what makes their attack rock solid. There's a play
on the weekend. It was a lead up played to
the zaa papal. Everyone needs to be on the same
page and communication is the key. They're attacking to the
right to pick Melbourne on the left. Mitch Kenny knew
it was coming. If he's standing there, it shuts down
(23:17):
that play and Casey McLain goes within a centimeter the
disjointed line and look at this Mitch Kenny removing back.
That's a set play to get McClain one on one
on the outside here with Nick.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Isn't there some sort of understanding to say, right, we're
going to hit him right on the far left side,
but we're going to state we're going to start almost
on the scrum line to the right, do an inside
block and start to mass.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
So I can tell you what happened. Nathan clear would
have run past the rock and say, Mitch Kenny, this
players coming back and he's thrown the ball, And how
many times do we see players come back across the
field and plays in the road running front obstruction. This
is what made this is what makes pendrith a really
good sign.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Everyone dialed in, everyone's just synchronized. And that's and at
the start of the year, ushering all those young players
in McLean blaze all that, you can understand why it
was clunky because that's a that's a that's a complex attack.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
And then so Panthers Raiders six o'clock got storm versus
the Dogs afterwards.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Dogs, Dogs have got to be very careful with their style.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Talking about complex attack, it's a complex game, you know,
like short passing. They don't they don't engage the middle lot.
A lot of it is short passing and sort.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Of pushing from edge to wedge. Very very clever football.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But you know, and I know that it irks the Dogs,
but it is true in slippery, wet conditions, it's it's
it can it's a problematic style at times you've really
got to be on your game. And sometimes Coop, I'm
watching them. The Dogs have got the propensity to beat
themselves because they're just determined to.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Play that style of football. Right.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I like the Dog's attack with Crichton moving to fallback
at different stages. Line up on Xavier.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Coats, that's a big one. I don't know what it
is for Marcela Montoya.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, she'll be a change that. I don't think twil
will be on the right wing against.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah, it's a it's going to be fascinating game. It's
a really big game for the Dogs. I mean dogs,
big game for both sides. Storm win, they're right up
to their eyeballs and grab another minor premiership. And I
know you know more than anyone of the Melbourne Storm
how important that is for Craig and the top two spot.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But the Dogs will be they
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Will be more desperate because they need a big scalp
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