September 1, 2025 • 26 mins
Matty & Cooper on Raiders' Minor Premiership, Bulldogs' Status, Savala Comparison & Good Reece/Bad Reece.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Well doneer Canberra. They've got the mine of title and
incredible achievement. The other reason Cooper it's incredible achievement is
the fact the nature of the way they've played open,
free flowing and it's very hard to find consistency playing
that way, but they've done.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It and leaders are like I think the way that
they carry themselves from round one in Vegas when they
beat the Warriors, they were powerful, they were fast. All
the way through to the weekend they were powerful, they
were fast. They've improved defensively out of sight. But that combination,
like we've spoken about about Tarpaney, Hawsbrough, Papoli mixed with
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Strange Weeks, said Chris Timicle. There's a real good balance
there and there's some guys that have played finals. There's
some guys that haven't played finals. But I think the
key is Jamal Fogi and the key to that is
Ricky Stewart's mental ship through finals and if he can
have Jamal Humming at a really high level, I think
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they've got the good balance to do it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Haven't They handled Jamal Foggarty leave it. The whole contract thing.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Very very good ones because other halfbacks have left other
clubs that haven't handled it, and Ricky stew has done
a really good job with that and they deserve the
position they're in. The one thing they need to do
I think is they can't miss week one of the finals.
They might rest a couple of as in play badly.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, you got.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I think they need to win week one. They can't
go the long way here. They need to have the
momentum whatever Ricky does restling players. This weekend is by
the bye, but week one at home against Team four,
they need to win it. They can't go the long way.
I think if they get the balloon popped early, they'll struggle.
But they definitely need to capitalize on minor Premiership.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'll tell you you know, I spoke last night about
how good Horse Bru and Zach Hoskin were, you know,
just those blokes with Ben. That was a very very
tricky game against the Tigers because they're locked into a position.
He had all the crowd, they're ready to celebrate the
minor title. You know, Tiger's playing great football that when
it came I reckon. The bloke who was monumental in
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getting the win was Josh Papale, his second stint was
really really special and you know it's just he's impact.
I think they got him home at a crucial time.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, and I think he will in terms of his
leadership and experience through the finals. He's the one guy
that's done at all. Really. So if there's a conversation
that we had with Ethan Strange, go have a conversation
with Papoli. If there's something for the outside backs to go, say, hey,
what's finals footy? Like, what do we need to get
ready for? Go speak to that man. He knows and
he did it for Queensland. Only a couple of months ago.
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He came back and did it again, so he's a
big part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Tell me about Ethan Strange.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I really like what Ethan's Strange has done. Right. He
can run, he can do all these great things. Good defender.
But there was one moment when Skelton hit him on
the weekend with everything absolutely wiped him out. Bang. Most
halfbacks get up, roll around, stay on the ground, look
for you know, the trainer to come and get He
got up and smiled.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I would sign that kid for a long contract off
the back of that. That characters halves, it can handle physicality,
can go into the line and create space, will be
a threat to run most times. And he got up
and thought he was a chance of score on a try.
That moment then just showed me that this kid's got
it in spades.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's a core r to be able to cop a
lick like that.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You shovel the ball sideways and step away from contact,
you're not going to be effective at your role. But
he loves it that. That moment of him getting up
tells me that he's not afraid to make a tackle.
He's not afraid to run to get hit. And if
that's your mindset with the half, you can create a
lot of stuff off the back of that.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That was the old school creator since the game was played,
is you get to your feet, do not show the
opponent you're injured, Get up and show some character. He
did it there this sort Jad and Campbell get that
little nudge might have cost the Titans a game, but
it's that personal prime.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And like Skelton hit him with everything like absolutely wild.
But that in that moment, I said, like, sign this
kid up for as long as you want.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, Melbourne and the Roosters firstly on Melbourne conceeed forty
points in the second half, the worst.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Most and all the time second half points, all the.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Time coops it it was Craig six hundred like milestone game,
six hundredth game, and I just wh where did that
come from? Actually a question before we go. It was
a really busy week for belly Ache, like he had
numerous things. Had they had the big night with people
coming from you know, all over Australia, celebrated, but apparently
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had a couple of other functions as well. Dragon belly
Ache would look back and go, okay, where there's something
in my preparation, Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
There would be. He won't ever do that again. This
might be really strange, but forty points of the second
half is alarming. But I'm going to say this, I'm
not too worried. If I'm a Melbourne Storm fan, I
wouldn't be too worried. Yes, there's moments of defense and
poor decisions and lacking of effort and things like that,
but go look at their first forty minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, it was brilliant.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Go look at the players he rested. So it was
quite selfless of Craig Bellamy to rest those players in
game six hundred. Ye, he's got a plan. He knows
that he sticks to the plan. They're aiming for the
Grand Final, and I dare say this week and against
the Broncos, they will play their best football. I just
feel like Craig Bellamy took a hit for their team
to set up what they wanted out of September.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I'm not worried as long as Jerome Hughes is coming back.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Jerome Hughes won't come back for the season. No, I
think they'll put him on ice until a previal.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know that. No, I don't know, but I'm talking
about in this competition as far as winning it. If
you tell me Jerome is not coming back, then after
the other night, understand all those things, but I go
Melbourne can't win.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Are you rushing him back this week?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Oh no, no, no, no, I don't. There's a little
bit of talk that Craig will bring him back to
getting a bit of football. I wouldn't even risk him.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think he is on ice until prelim final. They
can get to a prelim final without Jerome Hughes. But
I think their game against Broncos is going to set
up September. If they win and play well, it's everything
that they want. If they lose the Broncos, then I'm alarmed.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Coops in the back half of this season. The bloke
we've spoken about so much as Hugo Sabaha, and I
like talking about him because you can just see he's
an example of a player who has got great core
fundamentals and that's allowed him to improve. The other night
to look at some of his stuff. But no, Sam Walker,
there's a big question. Can he run the show? He
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did it. He was fantastic. Again.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I think he's a smart kid and you tell him
one thing and he fixes it straight away. Look at
dropping back out of play because he knows that Angus
Krichton is probably going to come back through. He's setting
for the next one and kiding game.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's to the right spot.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He doesn't look to get too cute and sexy with
his kicks. His rock solid. He's got a big boot.
And here is a type of halfback that can execute
a game plan even in this early stages. You know
this sort of ballplane here like just leans in a
little bit, creates a space for Teddy to do his thing.
And this is the best one. Just this target defender
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leans in Bradley inside Munster and that's the meter that
to us they.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Needs that you know, you've got You've got to understand.
You know, it can be he can be over the
fast side of the field, but you don't score in
the opposite corner unless that playmaker starts a stripping process.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You could play from sideline to sideline unless the two
or three ballplayers in that chain of passes squares up
and condenses some type of defense. The half meta you
get here is a half met you get there is
a half meter that no longer there. To us, they
needs to put the ball down in the corner and
no Sam Walker and here Savala in a big game
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down was it ten mil at half time? Whatever? It
was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
We spoke numerous times and we talk about the fundamentals
of game, and people we go, mate, so boring talking
about it again. But I want to give you a
quote from one of the greatest sportsmen who's ever lived,
Michael Jordan, and he spoke about fundamentals, the importance of
fundamentals and his game. His quote, his quote was the
importance of mastering basics like footwork, border handling and shooting.
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Form is the foundation of improvement and excellence. He said,
you can you can practice shooting eight hours a day,
but if your technique is wrong, then all you become
is very very good at shooting the wrong way. He said,
why fundament This is why fundamentals matter, he g gives
you a foundation for excellence. It allows you to continuously
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improve the work ethic. He said. It breeds consistency and discipline,
and it breeds mental toughness. Always think, do the basics better?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So let me get this right. You compare hear us Violet.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Have you ever seen slam dunk?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I totally agree with the fundamental beats. Look, if you
talk about trying to build a career that's ten years
plus in basketball or rugby league, you've got to do
the basics and improve on those things. And every time
you play the game, you've got to deliver the basics.
You just don't skip over them. So what's the basics
in rugby league? Like good technique to tackle if you're half,
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it's good kicking technique. And understand the nuance of ballplay,
Like I'll give you a wrap here without you sort
of mentoring me earlier, I probably didn't understand the nuances
of ballplayer. There we go. Yeah, I mean so that
basic fundamentals are the key to delivering.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I remember being a young player at the Newcastle Knights
and standing there watching and we were playing under twenty
one against the first grade side, and old Alan Bell
said to me, I want you to watch Mick Hagen.
It's Michael Hagen has so much time when he ballplays,
and he said, you watch how early he catches for football.
Of course, Mick had really beautiful hands. He could reach
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and he catch the ball nice and early. The quick
the earlier the ball hits your hands, the more time
for vision and to playmake simple.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, I totally agree. And I think if you're going
to come as a half back in this competition and
go straight to throwing the ball over the top, you're
going to miss a lot of cues that start in
and around the ruck. And they're the basic fundamental.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Talking a base requirement for fullbacks to these days, you know,
with speed and skill and all the rest of it,
but also work ethic and toughness, smarts young at paramatter, mate,
he's just he's an emerging superstar. It's obvious.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
He's got footwork, he's tough and some of the moments
to follow through and pick up the offloads at different stages.
Very good. But you talk about the Eels and Io.
The Eels have the Knights this week. Yep, Matthew, what's
going on with the Knights?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Well, it's look, I'm going to stay there the Obviously
everyone knows this. It's a huge job, and it's a
huge job from the bottom up and a lot of
times and our real coaches, head coaches go as far
as pathways and juniors, that's my job, just not this one.
This needs a lot of work. In my opinion, a
head coach, head an, our real coach has to have
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their fingers on the pathways because they've got to have presents,
and they've got to be able to educate the players,
be the main man who you're brought in to be
the smartest bloke in that club, educate the players, and
to be able to attract players. Like if you want
to sign a young player, a kid who's just out
of out of school and you're trying to convince him,
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if you really want to get him to come to
your club, then you send the head coach, you send
him along. There's a couple of things coops here, when
they're going to try to pick the right man. Is
you've got to ask the right questions. Too often I
think they go in and they sit there the selection
board now and they'll just look at a resume and go, wow,
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his assistant to this guy and he did that and
they won the comp that year. No, No, it's different
your head coach. The questions you have to ask are
applicable to the problems that are going to rise the
next year. So for Newcastle, the obvious one is right,
we'll Fletcher Sharp, Klen Ponger and Dylan Brown. How we're
going to solve that puzzle. Secondly, we're really short of
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middle forwards, right, we're skinny there. What style of football
are we're going to play to allow us to get
away with that? Asking the right questions allows you to
find the right blow.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Is that why Michael Eagan has been brought in?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, Michael Haigs, he has, without a doubt through those
questions to identify the really big issues. I'll give you,
I'll give you an idea and cops when the Nights
first coming too, the comp eighty seven going into eighty eight.
They coming in eighty eight, but had a lot of
work to do. They had to recruit young players and
they had to find the right coach. It came down
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to two men. Number of people applied. A guy who
was a great coach, Ron Willy, who was an older coach,
had a lot of success in a lot of places,
very much a discipline aarian, but he looked like the
ideal blade to bring in, and they brought in. They
were looking to bring in the late Aliment Mahart, who
was an emerging coach and coach lower grades a little bit,
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was well regarded, particularly by the Canberra blokes, and so
it was between those two. Now the selection committee there
was a couple of guys on there who really knew
their football. So they put a scenario to both men
and it was okay, tomorrow we're playing the most brutal
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team and forward pack in the competition, the Kenery Bulldogs.
We've got a very young side. How do we beat them?
And Ron Willy played with him did a really funny
throwaway line. He said, I get up that I get
up on that Sunday morning, I go to church and
I pray. Aliment Martin's response was, well, we don't try
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to beat them with forward power. What we do is
we bring our outside backs in the smaller blokes, quick
blokes and just make a miss and we just wear
them down and we complete we whole possession. We don't
make mistakes, we kick into the far corner, we chase,
we make them fight for every meter and we might
not beat them, but we're going to take them all
the way. And they went, that's our man.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Good answer.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So who is who is a candidates? Mate? Who do
you think would be the Newcastle Knights best option?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I don't know. I've got a lot to go through.
Apparently Willie Peters's have ain't been ringing hot mate. I
can't believe how many friends I had I never realized
soon as the coach cajun job I made. I've been
inundated with calls and people saying, man, we haven't spoken
for years.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You didn't return Michael of my interest.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
No, no, you're not the right man for the job.
But I'll tell you there's lots of different ways looking.
And I've said this and people will go, these two
guys might not be the right guy for the Knights,
but you bring him in and you're in a view
him at least and one is I say, Michael Checker,
I've said before. Another one is John Strange. People go
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John Strange. He coaches the Rooster's own wyl w I
watched the way they play and made it. They're highly skilled.
I love the way they attack. I've heard him talk.
John Strange. You can see he's a brilliant coach. He's
very good man manager and you know what, he's worth
a chat.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I think, from my opinion, you'd have to do some
very good research from very good d d on the
Newcastle Knights, because there's some gaps in their program from
the top all the way through list playing ability, and
you'd have to be supremely confident that you can turn
that around because I think there's a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
To do, a lot of work to do, so it's
a it's a big job. What do you think about
the Broncos to the point, Ruth Walsh.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I'll tell you what. Like when Adam Reynolds went down
with Ezra Man a few weeks ago, everyone thought, oh
this is the kids are the Broncos and they've played
some teams or whatever. I get that, but I'll tell
you what Reese Walsh has stood up and the big
thing about is you know, how do you coach Reeswalsh?
Right on the weekend, he threw a pass before halftime
that's set up a try. This one here that is
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absolutely mind blowing. How he's got that skill to do
that on the stroke of halftime, no look, pressure coming.
He throws the ball over the top and then scores
a try on the corner. But then two minutes later,
in the first couple of moments in the first half,
that's a brilliant pass. But then in the second half
he comes out and does this, goes straight in line
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in a scept So how would you coach Rees Walsh? Well,
I don't think you have to coach him to that point,
because ten minutes later he goes and realize he can
coach himself. Here's the same play, goes the same position,
throws a dummy, brings valomet up and the off layer right.
So I'm not going to go to Reswulsh and say, mate,
don't throw that again, because he's already educated himself.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Take you take the good with the bad, the.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Good with the bad. But he telled that play there,
tells me he's a super smart kid, so I wouldn't
be coaching the errors or anything, because what he's doing
at the Broncos is very good at the moment. If
there's one thing I would coach him on is i'd
shown the effort plays because if he's got a mindset
that every moment counts, like Tedesco or Papenhausen, I think
he can deliver for the Broncos. Tedesco here multiple opportunities
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to give up, he never gives up, moves from the inside,
goes to the outside, makes a tackle. He's trying to
win every moment here. Papenhausen at the back trailing through,
gets to Kara. Karaz is probably going to score here,
but he doesn't. Papenhausen and Tedesco just got this mindset
that doesn't matter what happens, every moment counts. And if
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Rees Walsh has that mindset, I think he can set
up for the Brison Broncos. Here is against the Cowboys.
Watch him out the back, just gets caught napping, trying
to choose his time when to be involved, and look
what happens kick through Nana. He is out of position.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So you want him to have the same enthusiastics, enthusiasm
saving tries to scoring them.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
If he's got a mindset that every moment counts, he
will understand when to throw a pass and when not to.
Don't coach him and say mate, don't throw that pass
and put the gun in the whole Stu. I want
him to back himself because I know Ezra Man and Reynolds.
He needs to be the main man and he's been
absolutely brilliant for him. But I would coach the mindset
and I think he will get there.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It's funny, very very talented young players who have particularly
ones that are very good instinctive players. I think sometimes
they give him too much information early. I think blokeslo
like Bruce, you almost drip food information and they work
out himself. The Dogs, they got a lot of criticism
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the other night coming out put himself, but I'll be
feared of the Dogs and dogs up against Penrith and
that was it's a game that the Dogs plays completely honest.
Would have been very hard to get excited about. You
know that there was oh you win by forty, of
course you won by forty. You're playing all these young guys,
you know, and it's funny, you know when you play
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side Like the other night, I think most cases coops,
when you go into games, the people say it's a
fatal complete, you're going to win. You just gonna roll
over those guys. It's funny you almost try to always
try to beat them with your attack. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
There's a subconscious thought in players that just five percent off.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Well, it's there. But I will say this about the
Dogs the other night, that they played like they were
just playing another jersey. They were playing like what's our style,
And they actually did all the fundamentals really well in
the first half. High completion rate, early kicking, did all
those things as if it were September, and started scoring
points at different stages. So, look, they're not playing to
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the level they were at the start of the year,
but I thought they were okay against.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Be One thing I did like is see I mean
Lachland Galvin's been searching for combinations. I think he's found
his man without Jacob Press that that has really formed work.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
There's better back rolls like kickout or elik angers crime
guys with more skill and physicality. But as a half,
I just want a back roll who's reliable, tell him
to be in the right spot at the right time.
I can pick apart my passing game off the back
of that. And there was combination against Penrith that they
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smashed that hole all night and Preston just keep turn
kept turning up for him. And they've developed in a
good combo on that right side. Because there is that
left side Burton kickout, they need something else on the
right and they're starting to get it done with these two.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Is good an old team out of yours, entrepreneur.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He is the only I'll say this respect but he's
the player of the Bulldogs in the forward pack that's
got leg speed, power and the oppositosition would be wary
of every time he touches the football. The combination of
him and current man on the weekend was a point
of difference, Like I really liked that combination after twenty
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to thirty minutes. This one here like that.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
As a ballplayer, you just give it to him every
time he is shot out of a cannon there. So
I think he would. He is a big part of
what the Bulldogs want to do because they do lack
a bit of power and physicality. He's the man.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Look at that, Jesus mate. He takes them stopping. He
doesn't know when he's tackled. Raiders can rest players. Storm
were gown. He rest all of them, but it's going
to rest from the majority to else the other side. Raiders,
We've said about a few clubs, Penris, they got a
lot of criticism. I'll be honest, Ivan, I rest the
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same players again.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Do it again.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I do it again.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'll tell you why they should do it again is
they're trying to do something that no one else has
even truck got closer to doing for a long time.
Their players are cooked. What I would do if I
was Ivan clearing, is they play on Saturday afternoon, Broncos
play Thursday night, Warriors and Roosters play Friday night. They're
basically going to know what their scenario is by the
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time they play on Saturday. If it is they, I'd
rather play the Sharks or the Warriors, then I'd play
the Broncos. If I'm I'm Penrith, So what I would do,
I just wait see what the how the table forms
out before I play. And if I'm going to rest
Moses Leota, Nathan Cleary, Isaiah Dylan Edwards and Martin everyone
else play, go out there and get you your rust. Out,
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But these five guys, you are the Ferrari and the Garage.
I'm resting you up. Okay, And if he gets to
another Grand Final, Ivan Cleary, you and I had taken
a bottle of wine over to his house. That's tremendous.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Nice peanut, take three coops. Okay, resting players this one.
The dogs. Dogs are still really trying to find that
new style with the new order of the new structure
of the spine. Can do you think, Camcerella, can you
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afford to give them a rest again this week? Because
they are locked in the third?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Are locked in? No?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, okay, Okay, Well they've got the Sharks. Give me
your thoughts on the Sharks a disappointing yes. Can I
show your set and you commentated on this and I
heard you say it as this set was. This is
about fifteen minutes into the game. My problem with the
SHARKI sometimes with the attack is they're constantly playing half
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field football and they're oftentimes they're just resettings. Now, half
half field football is very very good for the setup. Okay,
setting things up. They open they field up a bit here,
but it's again a little bit two sideways from here.
They just start resetting the mill, coming back in the middle,
coming back of that, and.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Coming off the buy. It's a good time of year
for a Finals team to have the buy. I thought,
in good conditions are at Shark Park, they were going
to come out of the blocks and really dominate. But
they were a bit two sideways for me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah. The best set or the best moment of play
for the Sharks was when Brayley ran that forced Niko
Heines to run, which forced Trindle to run. And there
was two sets within that game that that was the case,
and it was their best part. You know this part
here Brayley gets out Ye, forces Nico Heines become a
ball runner, forces Trindle to push through the hole, and
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look how much better that foot.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Is cook and Curdy isn't.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah yeah, actually, and this one here Brayley gets out,
Nico runs into ball runner mode, quick play the ball
and what happens shift the ball out to the left hand,
Zie try score and coops.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
The thinking about it is one thing I really love
about Sharks players. The wrench back row was they hit
a hole so beautifully.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Miss Nikkeer.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Tig Wilton is very game. He'll hit the line. So
for that reason to understand. When you're playing half field football,
it's natural the holes are holes are more narrow when
you can if you can play a half field and
hit them on one side, like we talk all the time,
shot shot. It's also when you're playing for alongside the
holes another half meter wider which suits the ability to
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play through. Just find them. I mean, it's going to
be an amazing final round the way things have fallen
into place. A lot of other shows are going to
cover off what they are and what it means. But
Chi's Friday night. Roosters in South massive roosters playing great football.
Souths are preparing an ambush. Well is it an ambush?
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If you know what's coming that.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Could be that would be an absolute crack up.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
If Souths managed to beat the Roosters. At the moment,
there's points differential. Roosters have got fifteen points on the Dolphins.
Dolphins play the Raiders on Sunday. Who will rest play?
And you think if southsplat the Roosters, that's just kind
of providing enough motivation Dolphins to get it done.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And you saw yesterday what is aka tower tray full
and Nicoreema could do in a split moment, so the
fact that the old enemy rusters verse sous on a
Friday night, it still has an impact. The last round
of the season is so good.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I'm going to go, I'm going to go to the game.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You're going to go, You're going to get out of
my ivory tower, and you want to work on the
panel on Friday night.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Free tickets, Free tickets,
Well doneer Canberra. They've got the mine of title and
incredible achievement. The other reason Cooper it's incredible achievement is
the fact the nature of the way they've played open,
free flowing and it's very hard to find consistency playing
that way, but they've done.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It and leaders are like I think the way that
they carry themselves from round one in Vegas when they
beat the Warriors, they were powerful, they were fast. All
the way through to the weekend they were powerful, they
were fast. They've improved defensively out of sight. But that combination,
like we've spoken about about Tarpaney, Hawsbrough, Papoli mixed with
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Strange Weeks, said Chris Timicle. There's a real good balance
there and there's some guys that have played finals. There's
some guys that haven't played finals. But I think the
key is Jamal Fogi and the key to that is
Ricky Stewart's mental ship through finals and if he can
have Jamal Humming at a really high level, I think
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they've got the good balance to do it.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Haven't They handled Jamal Foggarty leave it. The whole contract thing.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Very very good ones because other halfbacks have left other
clubs that haven't handled it, and Ricky stew has done
a really good job with that and they deserve the
position they're in. The one thing they need to do
I think is they can't miss week one of the finals.
They might rest a couple of as in play badly.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, you got.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I think they need to win week one. They can't
go the long way here. They need to have the
momentum whatever Ricky does restling players. This weekend is by
the bye, but week one at home against Team four,
they need to win it. They can't go the long way.
I think if they get the balloon popped early, they'll struggle.
But they definitely need to capitalize on minor Premiership.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I'll tell you you know, I spoke last night about
how good Horse Bru and Zach Hoskin were, you know,
just those blokes with Ben. That was a very very
tricky game against the Tigers because they're locked into a position.
He had all the crowd, they're ready to celebrate the
minor title. You know, Tiger's playing great football that when
it came I reckon. The bloke who was monumental in
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getting the win was Josh Papale, his second stint was
really really special and you know it's just he's impact.
I think they got him home at a crucial time.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, and I think he will in terms of his
leadership and experience through the finals. He's the one guy
that's done at all. Really. So if there's a conversation
that we had with Ethan Strange, go have a conversation
with Papoli. If there's something for the outside backs to go, say, hey,
what's finals footy? Like, what do we need to get
ready for? Go speak to that man. He knows and
he did it for Queensland. Only a couple of months ago.
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He came back and did it again, so he's a
big part of it.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Tell me about Ethan Strange.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I really like what Ethan's Strange has done. Right. He
can run, he can do all these great things. Good defender.
But there was one moment when Skelton hit him on
the weekend with everything absolutely wiped him out. Bang. Most
halfbacks get up, roll around, stay on the ground, look
for you know, the trainer to come and get He
got up and smiled.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
I would sign that kid for a long contract off
the back of that. That characters halves, it can handle physicality,
can go into the line and create space, will be
a threat to run most times. And he got up
and thought he was a chance of score on a try.
That moment then just showed me that this kid's got
it in spades.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's a core r to be able to cop a
lick like that.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You shovel the ball sideways and step away from contact,
you're not going to be effective at your role. But
he loves it that. That moment of him getting up
tells me that he's not afraid to make a tackle.
He's not afraid to run to get hit. And if
that's your mindset with the half, you can create a
lot of stuff off the back of that.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
That was the old school creator since the game was played,
is you get to your feet, do not show the
opponent you're injured, Get up and show some character. He
did it there this sort Jad and Campbell get that
little nudge might have cost the Titans a game, but
it's that personal prime.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
And like Skelton hit him with everything like absolutely wild.
But that in that moment, I said, like, sign this
kid up for as long as you want.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah, Melbourne and the Roosters firstly on Melbourne conceeed forty
points in the second half, the worst.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Most and all the time second half points, all the.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Time coops it it was Craig six hundred like milestone game,
six hundredth game, and I just wh where did that
come from? Actually a question before we go. It was
a really busy week for belly Ache, like he had
numerous things. Had they had the big night with people
coming from you know, all over Australia, celebrated, but apparently
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had a couple of other functions as well. Dragon belly
Ache would look back and go, okay, where there's something
in my preparation, Yes.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
There would be. He won't ever do that again. This
might be really strange, but forty points of the second
half is alarming. But I'm going to say this, I'm
not too worried. If I'm a Melbourne Storm fan, I
wouldn't be too worried. Yes, there's moments of defense and
poor decisions and lacking of effort and things like that,
but go look at their first forty minutes.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, it was brilliant.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Go look at the players he rested. So it was
quite selfless of Craig Bellamy to rest those players in
game six hundred. Ye, he's got a plan. He knows
that he sticks to the plan. They're aiming for the
Grand Final, and I dare say this week and against
the Broncos, they will play their best football. I just
feel like Craig Bellamy took a hit for their team
to set up what they wanted out of September.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I'm not worried as long as Jerome Hughes is coming back.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Jerome Hughes won't come back for the season. No, I
think they'll put him on ice until a previal.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know that. No, I don't know, but I'm talking
about in this competition as far as winning it. If
you tell me Jerome is not coming back, then after
the other night, understand all those things, but I go
Melbourne can't win.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Are you rushing him back this week?
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Oh no, no, no, no, I don't. There's a little
bit of talk that Craig will bring him back to
getting a bit of football. I wouldn't even risk him.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I think he is on ice until prelim final. They
can get to a prelim final without Jerome Hughes. But
I think their game against Broncos is going to set
up September. If they win and play well, it's everything
that they want. If they lose the Broncos, then I'm alarmed.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Coops in the back half of this season. The bloke
we've spoken about so much as Hugo Sabaha, and I
like talking about him because you can just see he's
an example of a player who has got great core
fundamentals and that's allowed him to improve. The other night
to look at some of his stuff. But no, Sam Walker,
there's a big question. Can he run the show? He
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did it. He was fantastic. Again.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I think he's a smart kid and you tell him
one thing and he fixes it straight away. Look at
dropping back out of play because he knows that Angus
Krichton is probably going to come back through. He's setting
for the next one and kiding game.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
It's to the right spot.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
He doesn't look to get too cute and sexy with
his kicks. His rock solid. He's got a big boot.
And here is a type of halfback that can execute
a game plan even in this early stages. You know
this sort of ballplane here like just leans in a
little bit, creates a space for Teddy to do his thing.
And this is the best one. Just this target defender
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leans in Bradley inside Munster and that's the meter that
to us they.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Needs that you know, you've got You've got to understand.
You know, it can be he can be over the
fast side of the field, but you don't score in
the opposite corner unless that playmaker starts a stripping process.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
You could play from sideline to sideline unless the two
or three ballplayers in that chain of passes squares up
and condenses some type of defense. The half meta you
get here is a half met you get there is
a half meter that no longer there. To us, they
needs to put the ball down in the corner and
no Sam Walker and here Savala in a big game
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down was it ten mil at half time? Whatever? It
was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
We spoke numerous times and we talk about the fundamentals
of game, and people we go, mate, so boring talking
about it again. But I want to give you a
quote from one of the greatest sportsmen who's ever lived,
Michael Jordan, and he spoke about fundamentals, the importance of
fundamentals and his game. His quote, his quote was the
importance of mastering basics like footwork, border handling and shooting.
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Form is the foundation of improvement and excellence. He said,
you can you can practice shooting eight hours a day,
but if your technique is wrong, then all you become
is very very good at shooting the wrong way. He said,
why fundament This is why fundamentals matter, he g gives
you a foundation for excellence. It allows you to continuously
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improve the work ethic. He said. It breeds consistency and discipline,
and it breeds mental toughness. Always think, do the basics better?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
So let me get this right. You compare hear us Violet.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Have you ever seen slam dunk?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I totally agree with the fundamental beats. Look, if you
talk about trying to build a career that's ten years
plus in basketball or rugby league, you've got to do
the basics and improve on those things. And every time
you play the game, you've got to deliver the basics.
You just don't skip over them. So what's the basics
in rugby league? Like good technique to tackle if you're half,
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it's good kicking technique. And understand the nuance of ballplay,
Like I'll give you a wrap here without you sort
of mentoring me earlier, I probably didn't understand the nuances
of ballplayer. There we go. Yeah, I mean so that
basic fundamentals are the key to delivering.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
I remember being a young player at the Newcastle Knights
and standing there watching and we were playing under twenty
one against the first grade side, and old Alan Bell
said to me, I want you to watch Mick Hagen.
It's Michael Hagen has so much time when he ballplays,
and he said, you watch how early he catches for football.
Of course, Mick had really beautiful hands. He could reach
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and he catch the ball nice and early. The quick
the earlier the ball hits your hands, the more time
for vision and to playmake simple.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, I totally agree. And I think if you're going
to come as a half back in this competition and
go straight to throwing the ball over the top, you're
going to miss a lot of cues that start in
and around the ruck. And they're the basic fundamental.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Talking a base requirement for fullbacks to these days, you know,
with speed and skill and all the rest of it,
but also work ethic and toughness, smarts young at paramatter, mate,
he's just he's an emerging superstar. It's obvious.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
He's got footwork, he's tough and some of the moments
to follow through and pick up the offloads at different stages.
Very good. But you talk about the Eels and Io.
The Eels have the Knights this week. Yep, Matthew, what's
going on with the Knights?
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Well, it's look, I'm going to stay there the Obviously
everyone knows this. It's a huge job, and it's a
huge job from the bottom up and a lot of
times and our real coaches, head coaches go as far
as pathways and juniors, that's my job, just not this one.
This needs a lot of work. In my opinion, a
head coach, head an, our real coach has to have
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their fingers on the pathways because they've got to have presents,
and they've got to be able to educate the players,
be the main man who you're brought in to be
the smartest bloke in that club, educate the players, and
to be able to attract players. Like if you want
to sign a young player, a kid who's just out
of out of school and you're trying to convince him,
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if you really want to get him to come to
your club, then you send the head coach, you send
him along. There's a couple of things coops here, when
they're going to try to pick the right man. Is
you've got to ask the right questions. Too often I
think they go in and they sit there the selection
board now and they'll just look at a resume and go, wow,
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his assistant to this guy and he did that and
they won the comp that year. No, No, it's different
your head coach. The questions you have to ask are
applicable to the problems that are going to rise the
next year. So for Newcastle, the obvious one is right,
we'll Fletcher Sharp, Klen Ponger and Dylan Brown. How we're
going to solve that puzzle. Secondly, we're really short of
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middle forwards, right, we're skinny there. What style of football
are we're going to play to allow us to get
away with that? Asking the right questions allows you to
find the right blow.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Is that why Michael Eagan has been brought in?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, Michael Haigs, he has, without a doubt through those
questions to identify the really big issues. I'll give you,
I'll give you an idea and cops when the Nights
first coming too, the comp eighty seven going into eighty eight.
They coming in eighty eight, but had a lot of
work to do. They had to recruit young players and
they had to find the right coach. It came down
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to two men. Number of people applied. A guy who
was a great coach, Ron Willy, who was an older coach,
had a lot of success in a lot of places,
very much a discipline aarian, but he looked like the
ideal blade to bring in, and they brought in. They
were looking to bring in the late Aliment Mahart, who
was an emerging coach and coach lower grades a little bit,
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was well regarded, particularly by the Canberra blokes, and so
it was between those two. Now the selection committee there
was a couple of guys on there who really knew
their football. So they put a scenario to both men
and it was okay, tomorrow we're playing the most brutal
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team and forward pack in the competition, the Kenery Bulldogs.
We've got a very young side. How do we beat them?
And Ron Willy played with him did a really funny
throwaway line. He said, I get up that I get
up on that Sunday morning, I go to church and
I pray. Aliment Martin's response was, well, we don't try
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to beat them with forward power. What we do is
we bring our outside backs in the smaller blokes, quick
blokes and just make a miss and we just wear
them down and we complete we whole possession. We don't
make mistakes, we kick into the far corner, we chase,
we make them fight for every meter and we might
not beat them, but we're going to take them all
the way. And they went, that's our man.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Good answer.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's a good answer.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So who is who is a candidates? Mate? Who do
you think would be the Newcastle Knights best option?
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I don't know. I've got a lot to go through.
Apparently Willie Peters's have ain't been ringing hot mate. I
can't believe how many friends I had I never realized
soon as the coach cajun job I made. I've been
inundated with calls and people saying, man, we haven't spoken
for years.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
You didn't return Michael of my interest.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
No, no, you're not the right man for the job.
But I'll tell you there's lots of different ways looking.
And I've said this and people will go, these two
guys might not be the right guy for the Knights,
but you bring him in and you're in a view
him at least and one is I say, Michael Checker,
I've said before. Another one is John Strange. People go
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John Strange. He coaches the Rooster's own wyl w I
watched the way they play and made it. They're highly skilled.
I love the way they attack. I've heard him talk.
John Strange. You can see he's a brilliant coach. He's
very good man manager and you know what, he's worth
a chat.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I think, from my opinion, you'd have to do some
very good research from very good d d on the
Newcastle Knights, because there's some gaps in their program from
the top all the way through list playing ability, and
you'd have to be supremely confident that you can turn
that around because I think there's a lot of work.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
To do, a lot of work to do, so it's
a it's a big job. What do you think about
the Broncos to the point, Ruth Walsh.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I'll tell you what. Like when Adam Reynolds went down
with Ezra Man a few weeks ago, everyone thought, oh
this is the kids are the Broncos and they've played
some teams or whatever. I get that, but I'll tell
you what Reese Walsh has stood up and the big
thing about is you know, how do you coach Reeswalsh?
Right on the weekend, he threw a pass before halftime
that's set up a try. This one here that is
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absolutely mind blowing. How he's got that skill to do
that on the stroke of halftime, no look, pressure coming.
He throws the ball over the top and then scores
a try on the corner. But then two minutes later,
in the first couple of moments in the first half,
that's a brilliant pass. But then in the second half
he comes out and does this, goes straight in line
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in a scept So how would you coach Rees Walsh? Well,
I don't think you have to coach him to that point,
because ten minutes later he goes and realize he can
coach himself. Here's the same play, goes the same position,
throws a dummy, brings valomet up and the off layer right.
So I'm not going to go to Reswulsh and say, mate,
don't throw that again, because he's already educated himself.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Take you take the good with the bad, the.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Good with the bad. But he telled that play there,
tells me he's a super smart kid, so I wouldn't
be coaching the errors or anything, because what he's doing
at the Broncos is very good at the moment. If
there's one thing I would coach him on is i'd
shown the effort plays because if he's got a mindset
that every moment counts, like Tedesco or Papenhausen, I think
he can deliver for the Broncos. Tedesco here multiple opportunities
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to give up, he never gives up, moves from the inside,
goes to the outside, makes a tackle. He's trying to
win every moment here. Papenhausen at the back trailing through,
gets to Kara. Karaz is probably going to score here,
but he doesn't. Papenhausen and Tedesco just got this mindset
that doesn't matter what happens, every moment counts. And if
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Rees Walsh has that mindset, I think he can set
up for the Brison Broncos. Here is against the Cowboys.
Watch him out the back, just gets caught napping, trying
to choose his time when to be involved, and look
what happens kick through Nana. He is out of position.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
So you want him to have the same enthusiastics, enthusiasm
saving tries to scoring them.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
If he's got a mindset that every moment counts, he
will understand when to throw a pass and when not to.
Don't coach him and say mate, don't throw that pass
and put the gun in the whole Stu. I want
him to back himself because I know Ezra Man and Reynolds.
He needs to be the main man and he's been
absolutely brilliant for him. But I would coach the mindset
and I think he will get there.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
It's funny, very very talented young players who have particularly
ones that are very good instinctive players. I think sometimes
they give him too much information early. I think blokeslo
like Bruce, you almost drip food information and they work
out himself. The Dogs, they got a lot of criticism
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the other night coming out put himself, but I'll be
feared of the Dogs and dogs up against Penrith and
that was it's a game that the Dogs plays completely honest.
Would have been very hard to get excited about. You
know that there was oh you win by forty, of
course you won by forty. You're playing all these young guys,
you know, and it's funny, you know when you play
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side Like the other night, I think most cases coops,
when you go into games, the people say it's a
fatal complete, you're going to win. You just gonna roll
over those guys. It's funny you almost try to always
try to beat them with your attack. That makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
There's a subconscious thought in players that just five percent off.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Well, it's there. But I will say this about the
Dogs the other night, that they played like they were
just playing another jersey. They were playing like what's our style,
And they actually did all the fundamentals really well in
the first half. High completion rate, early kicking, did all
those things as if it were September, and started scoring
points at different stages. So, look, they're not playing to
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the level they were at the start of the year,
but I thought they were okay against.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Be One thing I did like is see I mean
Lachland Galvin's been searching for combinations. I think he's found
his man without Jacob Press that that has really formed work.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
There's better back rolls like kickout or elik angers crime
guys with more skill and physicality. But as a half,
I just want a back roll who's reliable, tell him
to be in the right spot at the right time.
I can pick apart my passing game off the back
of that. And there was combination against Penrith that they
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smashed that hole all night and Preston just keep turn
kept turning up for him. And they've developed in a
good combo on that right side. Because there is that
left side Burton kickout, they need something else on the
right and they're starting to get it done with these two.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Is good an old team out of yours, entrepreneur.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
He is the only I'll say this respect but he's
the player of the Bulldogs in the forward pack that's
got leg speed, power and the oppositosition would be wary
of every time he touches the football. The combination of
him and current man on the weekend was a point
of difference, Like I really liked that combination after twenty
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to thirty minutes. This one here like that.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
As a ballplayer, you just give it to him every
time he is shot out of a cannon there. So
I think he would. He is a big part of
what the Bulldogs want to do because they do lack
a bit of power and physicality. He's the man.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Look at that, Jesus mate. He takes them stopping. He
doesn't know when he's tackled. Raiders can rest players. Storm
were gown. He rest all of them, but it's going
to rest from the majority to else the other side. Raiders,
We've said about a few clubs, Penris, they got a
lot of criticism. I'll be honest, Ivan, I rest the
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same players again.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Do it again.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I do it again.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I'll tell you why they should do it again is
they're trying to do something that no one else has
even truck got closer to doing for a long time.
Their players are cooked. What I would do if I
was Ivan clearing, is they play on Saturday afternoon, Broncos
play Thursday night, Warriors and Roosters play Friday night. They're
basically going to know what their scenario is by the
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time they play on Saturday. If it is they, I'd
rather play the Sharks or the Warriors, then I'd play
the Broncos. If I'm I'm Penrith, So what I would do,
I just wait see what the how the table forms
out before I play. And if I'm going to rest
Moses Leota, Nathan Cleary, Isaiah Dylan Edwards and Martin everyone
else play, go out there and get you your rust. Out,
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But these five guys, you are the Ferrari and the Garage.
I'm resting you up. Okay, And if he gets to
another Grand Final, Ivan Cleary, you and I had taken
a bottle of wine over to his house. That's tremendous.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Nice peanut, take three coops. Okay, resting players this one.
The dogs. Dogs are still really trying to find that
new style with the new order of the new structure
of the spine. Can do you think, Camcerella, can you
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afford to give them a rest again this week? Because
they are locked in the third?
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Are locked in? No?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, okay, Okay, Well they've got the Sharks. Give me
your thoughts on the Sharks a disappointing yes. Can I
show your set and you commentated on this and I
heard you say it as this set was. This is
about fifteen minutes into the game. My problem with the
SHARKI sometimes with the attack is they're constantly playing half
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field football and they're oftentimes they're just resettings. Now, half
half field football is very very good for the setup. Okay,
setting things up. They open they field up a bit here,
but it's again a little bit two sideways from here.
They just start resetting the mill, coming back in the middle,
coming back of that, and.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Coming off the buy. It's a good time of year
for a Finals team to have the buy. I thought,
in good conditions are at Shark Park, they were going
to come out of the blocks and really dominate. But
they were a bit two sideways for me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah. The best set or the best moment of play
for the Sharks was when Brayley ran that forced Niko
Heines to run, which forced Trindle to run. And there
was two sets within that game that that was the case,
and it was their best part. You know this part
here Brayley gets out Ye, forces Nico Heines become a
ball runner, forces Trindle to push through the hole, and
(24:39):
look how much better that foot.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Is cook and Curdy isn't.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah yeah, actually, and this one here Brayley gets out,
Nico runs into ball runner mode, quick play the ball
and what happens shift the ball out to the left hand,
Zie try score and coops.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
The thinking about it is one thing I really love
about Sharks players. The wrench back row was they hit
a hole so beautifully.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Miss Nikkeer.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Tig Wilton is very game. He'll hit the line. So
for that reason to understand. When you're playing half field football,
it's natural the holes are holes are more narrow when
you can if you can play a half field and
hit them on one side, like we talk all the time,
shot shot. It's also when you're playing for alongside the
holes another half meter wider which suits the ability to
(25:23):
play through. Just find them. I mean, it's going to
be an amazing final round the way things have fallen
into place. A lot of other shows are going to
cover off what they are and what it means. But
Chi's Friday night. Roosters in South massive roosters playing great football.
Souths are preparing an ambush. Well is it an ambush?
(25:43):
If you know what's coming that.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Could be that would be an absolute crack up.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
If Souths managed to beat the Roosters. At the moment,
there's points differential. Roosters have got fifteen points on the Dolphins.
Dolphins play the Raiders on Sunday. Who will rest play?
And you think if southsplat the Roosters, that's just kind
of providing enough motivation Dolphins to get it done.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And you saw yesterday what is aka tower tray full
and Nicoreema could do in a split moment, so the
fact that the old enemy rusters verse sous on a
Friday night, it still has an impact. The last round
of the season is so good.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
I'm going to go, I'm going to go to the game.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You're going to go, You're going to get out of
my ivory tower, and you want to work on the
panel on Friday night.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Free tickets, Free tickets,
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