March 24, 2025 • 26 mins
Round 3: Matty & Cooper with their takeaways from Round 3, including evolving Tigers attack, improving Eels & best forward combinations.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Some sides of the moment I think are benefiting greatly
from doing less.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I don't know if doing less is the right term,
but put it this way, less long winded, structured said pieces.
Less sideways like.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What's required at the moment, as opposed to just playing
this elaborate player.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
As opposed to go and let's take three to the
far post.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Four, it's more like go forward, go forward, and then
reacting off that.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Tiger is the best example, and we spoke about them
last week.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
They started the game coops that every time they got
a little bit of momentum.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
They just go sideways.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
They pushed the ball at the edge, they get excited
and try to create through width. As the game started
to go on there you can see them now starting
to actually find their style more doing.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Less, keeping the ball through the middle.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
When toroll May goes forward and creates a momentum, hey
take another one.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's going to make us more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Let's have a look at some of this what I'm
talking about here on the game of the weekend, and
you see Leui just keeping the ball double drop under,
keep things nice and tight in the middle.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
His may, he's just been enormous. He goes forward.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Let's not go sideways yet, yeah, bird, he goes forward,
and then the silver scoop goes over and scores and
you look very very basically.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Basic, but it works for him.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's scored points afterwards, just in a simple form like
there's two ways you either make meters and score points.
One you ford momentum to shift, or you shift to
create space, and then the forward momentum. But at some
stage you have to take advantage of what you've created with.
It's a fast ruck, and you know, to the Tiger's
point that is it's basically three hit ups for a
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crash over from whalf That's what it looks like. But
it's death by a thousand cuts. Ford momentum, quicker play
the ball, forward momentum. Quicker play the ball, and then
all of a sudden, the silver first person to make
a decision, realizes that he's got the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And I think the sides, and I think that what
it feeds into there is that the sides who are
doing less keeping the ball more through the center field,
because let's face it, with the fast rucks in twenty
twenty five, the defensive vulnerability is in around that middle.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And you can do a decoy play like not that
close to the line, but say that's in around midfield,
three runs targeting a big, slow middle forward and then
have your footwork come back through the middle. For example,
Lewis could turn a pass back inside for during buller.
You take advantage of guys have made three tackles in
a row twenty minutes at the end of their stint.
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So there's another way where you sort of target someone
look like you're going away, but you can come back
through that middle.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There's some really crucial combinations starting to form with the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
The one two dummy half.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Punch of Da Silver and Appy Corus, how.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Has been enormous.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Da Silver has been fantastic, But the other one, the
really big one.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Leui and Galvin.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
On the weekend they took another step towards I think
you're starting to really find their football together and it
was a try.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
If you have a look at.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Operating in tandem and the fact that Galvin takes them
on here right and you watch the numbers that gathers,
this is how seven and six should play. Lewis recognizes where.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The ball needs to go.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
The line has been shortened right up I know where
it's got.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
To get to, and that's seven and six.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Wilson operating as a combination in the same play, still
operating as a combination.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The unspoken part about that, Yes, Galvin running and getting
the ball to the threat in the vulnerable area, but
the combination of Happy Chorus and Leui, that ability to
move the other side of the ruck but then still
pass back is not easy to do. That is because
they spent time penrith That is repetition at training, and
that is the reason why that happened. The ability for
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Leui to recognize their short on the one side, but
then to be on the same page. How many times
do we see that and a ball hits a deck
or a dummy half turns around and just ends up
running the ball because he can't get the pass to
his half back. So, yes, good play, but I reckon
the understand of Corus how they're tremendous.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You didn't talk about sharks in a second before we do.
Dolphins gone through a difficult period. But Isaiah katoa beautiful
little sequence on the weekend. If we just have a
look at this, coops and starts with the inside ball
like these are like a mirror play because he goes
inside on that little strain ball that's yu Blake's used
to call it. So he creates the dent, mate Marshall.
Marshall key picks up, makes twenty meters. Now watch this
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because first he's on that inside strain ball again, look
a tiny little glance book out for the tunnel ball.
Just that little deception he just set, tiny little look in.
They just squeezed in the dolphins and made him vulnerable top.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
End half back player. That's got rep play written all
over it. That is not something you just think of.
That's something that you react to and practice over and over.
And the pass to throw the long ball the farm worth, yeah,
that is very difficult to do. Like the inside look
you know, condensed defenders and then throw a rocket pill
through the full back hit the.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Center like Isaiah is he twenty one?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, early twenties, mate, And like that team is struggling
at the moment, but that kid has a big future.
Like he just glimpses of what his half back player
has been over his start to his career. Like you
could cut it up and say like that is that's
a kid older than what.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He's been doing age, Yeah, he's producing pretty good players.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Queensland I think, yeah, yeah, the half back play great
way from cart but the Sharks, Maddie I thought. Craig
Fitzgibbon summed up what Trindle and Hines are after the
game tremendously well. There is a lot of noise around
Nico rightly wrongly. I don't particularly care. But if you've
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got halves that have a team first mentality, a selfless
approach to the game, I'd take that halves pairing over
someone that wants to be dominant main man, wants to
win a deli and all those things. Because we've spoken
about this a thousand times when you and your brother
were playing, when I was playing with some different halves,
when one half is on the other one sits back
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and says, you know what you go And then when
he's a little bit off and out one other one,
the other half steps up and takes control of the play.
What Trindle and Heines are doing right now that they
sit probably below the Peneriths Melbourne and Brisbane in terms
of recognition, but they're humming along beautifully underneath. And if
that halve's pairing can continue to do that, like Trindle
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kicks two forty twenties. Nico Heines goes, all right, I'm
going to step back a bit here, let Trindle go.
But then when the game's there, hind season opportunity goes, no,
give me the ball. I'm on, and then Trindle steps back.
That is a good operation because I remember when I
got to the Roosters. We struggled in twenty eighteen, and
I spent majority of my career sort of attacking a
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three ind defender with the Bakraa and Billy Slater around.
Tried to get that same look at the Roosters, but
realized Kiri Tedesco they run east west quicker than most
players we had in the competition. I had to change.
I had to become a sort of a condensing of
the few middle defenders to create space for these guys
to play it off way more laterally, so my attacking
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didn't actually end up on the edges. It became more
in the middle of the rock, creating space vi Kiri
and Tedesco to do it. So I really liked that
mindset what Trindle and Heindes are doing, right.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I really like about the Sharks, and it took me
back to the really early days of the Melbourne Storm
eight ninety nine was at times it was almost like
a five man kick return, like with the Melbourne Storm
and those like ninety nine. You knocked the ball down
field and the centers would turn and their centers would
turn an end just sprint back and join a five
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better return. I remember saying to Robbie Ross one two
was a fullback in the side, like, how do they
do that? And he goes, you know, like as far
as fitness and keep it up, he goes, yeah, they've
just got him at he that's what.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He tells him to do.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And I thought the way they combined there was they
really worked well as a combination on kick returns. Some
of the beauties like Row and Maltalo did a couple
of crackers on kick returns.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
To explain why teams are getting plays back behind the
ball and kick chase is if the opposition kicks a
ball down and puts eleven players in the defensive line,
the poor old fullback is just running back against eleven players.
So the more you can get behind the footy, I
the wingers in the centers to put sort of doubt
in that defensive mind. And they did a number of times.
The Sharks of the weekend, their ability to sort of
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isolate one on one users spoon acceleration. Yeah, very good,
very good.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
The only thing about the Sharks I've got coops is
I still want to see more killer about them. Like
on the weekend there was an opportunity for them to
really drive it home and the second half like that.
You can't boat the top teams. You can't win a
competition playing forty minute football. Hassen Carrigan Broncos. I haven't
seen a better yardish combination. Has is just he is
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having a phenomenal start of the season. In some ways,
it's save as shadow the fact that I think Pat
Carry is playing the best football of his career.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But that you know, if you talk it like it's funny.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I was watching Has and what's become a trend in
the game, becurse of the speed and the rucks through
the middle is the small thirteen. Yeah, who's built like
a brick Shitthouse, low center of gravity, got good foot
spured and good footwork. In a lot of ways, pain
Has is that player, Like he has all those attributes.
He's got a big center of balance, he's fast, he's
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got good footwork. The only difference he is his one
hundred and twenty kilos. He is just devastating at the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, Like the Broncos have the perfect ingredients like powerful
forward pack, smart halves, athletic outside backs and when Paynehass
and Carrigan put it together. I'd love to be Onnam
Reynolds of Benhart because you're going to create momentum. And
we just spoke about with the Tigers. You could shift
to the to the outside, or you could play straight
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back through the middle with Reese Walsh.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Like you can actually you can sit there.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They are a guarantee, right, guarantee go forward, so you
could sit there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You know we're working with the combination.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You say, listen, coops, after this play, we're going to
put this on because you know you're going to have momentum.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, free Like Adam Reynolds could get really tricky with it,
like he could say Rono Carrigan and has just drive
two tackles around. I'd put re Swash out on the
far left hand side and as pain House starts carrying
the football, send Resquash all the way out the outside
back to my inside and look like you're going to
throw the ball out of the centers and just step
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back in straight through the the middle. Forwards that have
to have back to back tackles on one Carrigan then
painhasse and then if you throw a dummy like you
go into the outside, they're going to clip. You go
to sleep for half a second through that middle. I'm
straight back through.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Let's have some of the great artish combinations over the years,
personally contemporary one Brian Totter and Dylan Edwards. Yeah hard
when they go on one and two, and then at
the back end of those sets you've got Fisher, Harris
and Liota over the last four or five years. Go
back in time, a great one two punch used to
be Bradley Clyde Glenn Lazarus. Clyde would actually get back
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behind the ball and take play twos and then you'd
have Laso later on in the set. Sarah and Blocker
were great, like Siro was just you know, this huge
man at the time, biggest guy in the league at
the time. He'd take the yards, play quick and then
Blocker would get on the right and Blocker had beautiful
soft hands and skill awareness.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
A lot of Benny lies off the back of that too, right.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, the two you know you speak to people almost
of the half, the playmakers, the half and five a
for Balmain in those days was Blocker and Benny and
then mate, you've got and you look at it down
back in the day when you know, to see how
Sydney boys were flying, they win competitions. If you got
the three Burgess boys, you got George, Tom and Sam.
Like you have a look at that Grand Final, Sam
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and George working this combination. I usually thought George should
have got the Clyde Churchill medal, but that's for another day.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
The only other sort of team that could match what
Edwards and Fisher Harrison Liota in time would be the
Broncos Lottie Takiri, Wendel sailor and put on the top
of that web ce Simla Seba. Yes, but that is
pure domination through the yardage game. Most games you play
and you talk about, you know, the Broncos set it up.
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One of the tactics I found very interesting from the Cowboys,
and part of the reason why they're three losses in
the row is their detail and ability to want to
defend and their fifth played defense, particularly Drinkwater on Adam
Reynolds and Ben Hunt. There was vision there. Ben Hunt
gets this kick right, It should have been perfect in
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a triscoring situation, Drinkwater is out of position when you're
going into a game doing movements like this, sees bodies turned.
This is play three off a set tap. Adam Reynolds
has coordinated this to know that drink Water is not
paying attention. And if Ben Hunt gets this kick right,
it's try time. Drinkwater turned back. Eight is a space
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and he goes for the kick. Here drink Water is
clocking off when he has to work, and it's hurting
the Cowboys at the moment. And there was another time
a little bit later with Adam Reynolds just straight through
drink Water here today. If there's one thing that Adam
Reynolds gets right when the fullbacks in the line is
the early kick. Drink Water missed that kick by a meter.
It's because he didn't work early enough and fast enough
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early on. So I think there's a couple of things
going wrong with the Cowboys at the moment. But if
you're going to play against Adam Reynolds, one thing you
must do as a fullback is you've got to be
on in fifth player. He picked him apart.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
On the weekend, he's kicking as beautiful on the weekend.
He's one of those players. Dally chi Evens is another one.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
He did it again against the Raiders weeks well.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He gets like those two blokes.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I see them sometimes wander the line, particularly Daly, and
he goes it almost puts them. They put himself sometimes
in a culder sack, but they still find the right kick.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
It's ruthless, it's relentless. But with your kicking game as
a halfback, if the open position have a chink in
the armor and they show you a queue to it
early on, you just keep going back to it daily.
Jerry Evans did it against the Raiders. Big kick, last play,
footsteps down, drop ball, except big kick, footsteps that. It
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just kept coming. It's very effective. And when you come
up against a smart halfback and you spill the ball
or you're out of position, you better fix it quickly
otherwise are going to keep coming.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Cowboys were a lot better, a lot better. But yes,
oh and three yeah manly before we talked about the
dogs and par and a straight talk made manly.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It was very a very manly performance. Again, back home
put Raiders to the sword.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yep. So for twenty the first twenty minutes they had
an ample amount of possession and struggle to score points.
Then the sinbin happened and they just turn it on.
When Manly get hot. They are white hot compared to
some teams. Terry Evans outstanding, Ola Clartu intimidatingly scary. But
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again I think the Perseca injury is a big thing
for me only Yeah, I did too, Like they have
the best attack in the comp when they put it together.
But if they want to beat Brisbane, they're going to
need a big forward pack to stop carrygan at Haas
they want to beat Melbourne, they're going to need someone
to stop Nelson and utah Wa Kamano and losing Prosecca
is going to go a long way to hurting that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Just from that you just said about Nelson dispartment memory
and then I too.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Really impressed me the other night was Jack Cole.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, what really impressed me.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
About him was how he was able to on the
run almost correct his game when Nathan went off the field.
You could see he was trying to play the Nathan role.
Some of the sequences while he was getting a cross
field dum mean and yeah, those players that those little
shows that Nathan do that look very simple and basically
you see when Jack did it, he just wasn't comfortable
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and wasn't threatening. And then you know, about ten to fifteen,
it's in. You can see him just go no, no, no,
I'm going to go back.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And play the way that I play. And when you.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Consider coops, you know it's fourteen nil. When Nathan leaves
the field, he has to take control.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Of the of the team.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
He and Isaiah, Oh, Isaiahah was enormous again, but also
Blaze come on, Blaze to Langy. It come on at six.
So it's not like he had a six alongside him
who could help with the organization. You know, he was
him and Isaiah that they were having to control all things.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Isaiah was the coming six, if you want to put
it that way. Like his touches went through the roof
his organization, just through when he decided to pass, run
and play out the back. But I really like what
Cole did, Like this was probably an opportunity where he
could have got stage fright and gone, oh my Maine
man's out, but he simplified it he ran the football,
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he got involved and he actually showed some signs that
you know what, actually this kid might have something at
the back end.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Jenkins full back.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah yeah, And you know this is what we spoke
about this last week. This young you know, the young
Penrith side went to Manly against a strong Manly side
in the trials, had four points park and put him
to the sword.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's the strength of the system.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And it's also like to win a competition, you need
to have a good club, not just good players in
your seventeen a good club club. I've done it four
years and it doesn't look like it's going to stop
any time. Man, they like with Nathan going off and
everything that happening, like Melbourne were looking good, like they
could have easily ran away with that. But somehow, whether
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it was Melbourne taking a foot off or actually Penis
wrestling a little bit back, you can't do anything but
tip your cap to what Penith?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
What did the other MEAs how filthy Bellyac would have
been afterwards, because for him it would have been an
opportunity to strike a psychological blow. But now it's actually
I think probably the other way, I'd say Ivan would
have went away and go, Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
This is this sort of competition between these two this right, Valry,
it's going to be around for a bit and particularly
this year they're going to play again and again again.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Talking about Rovalry beauty from the eighties and mate, I
love this game yesterday, Dogs versus Power.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I just I really enjoyable better Power were better. Power
were better, a lot better.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Zachlomax, what thirty two carries in football? Still a few
defensive things is renowned for me.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And thirty carries in the season, that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Brief yourself. But I thought that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
They got the momentum they got in that second half,
they could smell that they could get a win. But
like a lot of people have gone with the Bulldogs
gone oh, it was pretty good informced by Bulldogs. I
think totally the opposite. You go into games sometimes coops,
and you have to win ugly or you have to
you've got to find a way to win when the
opposition is dictate, dictating the terms of the contest.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And we've all been.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
In those games where you're going to halftime, you're feeling
quite comfortable. For whatever reason, you come out in the
second half the energy goes out of football and vice versa.
The opposition climb and start going through the roof. And
particularly yesterday, Paramount sense they could pull off an upset.
And you know, when you've been around the game for
a while, you get a gut fill. And I'm watching
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the game yesterday going Paramo going to piece this for
all their effort, but the dogs won. The dogs hanging there,
they defended their asses off and they got the win.
That's the difference between the top four years and missing out.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And I think Sireldo would have liked the way that
his team put the overalls on and one ugly to
put it simple, what do you make of Brown?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'm going through a mind gown at the moment, A
lot's been set about Dylan.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
A lot has been set.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
We talk about it is because of that contract. Right,
if this contract's not around, he probably doesn't get the airtime.
But it's relevant, Coops.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
There is no doubt people predicted when he's sign the contract.
It comes with a degree of pressure, and we are
seeing that outside expectation is one of the most difficult
things to deal with. And I'm looking at Dylan at
the moment. My advice to Dylan would be this is
that Just just play, Just play Dylan Brown football, get
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back to Berne. Just be a run of the football.
Don't actually start to think, you know, or start to
try to play the football that you think Newcastle need
from you twelve months down the track. You know, don't
worry about trying to finesse, don't worry about trying to
push the side around the park. You just go out
and play to your strengths. You know, at the end
of the day, I can see that's just weighing on him.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Coops.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
How would you unlock that?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, Coops, how I would unlock it?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You can't do that at the moment because of the
fact there's no Mitchell Moses and you can't. It's very
hard to move a Dylan Brown out of the halves
because they're short on halves.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Even though I thought Dean Hawkins was good on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Is that if I'm Jason Rowles, I'm thinking about moving
moving him into thirteen just to then neck tie him
to how he should play, you know, because I just
think at the moment, I think at the moment, with
all the expectation and the pressure, I don't think I
think playing in the halves is weighing.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Heavily on him.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I think going back to playing eight, Dylan, you're playing thirteen.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Just get it there, run the football mate, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And at the end of the day, Dylan's got to
consider this is that the Knights signed Dylan Brown, Right,
you just play Dylan Brown football. If later next year,
whatever happens, whatever they need from you next year, or
whatever they want to work you into, that's up to
the nights. But at this point, just going back to
play Dylan Brown football.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, I think that's an out for Roles to move
him to thirteen and say, simplify the way around the
outside noise. He needs his best players playing their best football.
There's a team that's under immense pressure and he can
put it together. Go watch some highlights of when you're great, like,
get some mojo back in your play. The interesting part
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for me is what does Roles and the Eels do
if they're two and six, are thre eight weeks or worse,
no wins? Do they think about next year? Dylan Brown's
not in there next year, how.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Do you do that?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's interesting. I thought about that when he signed. I thought,
if this season goes continues to get bad for Paramount
and you get two thirds of the way through the season, you.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Say, well, it's what do they do? Do? They decide
to experiment?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
This is Mitch's team. Bring Mitch comes back hopefully sometime soon,
and you start working with those combinations are going to
help you be a better team in twenty twenty six.
Yeah you like doing hooks, Yeah, like you just work around.
There's certain things that some halfbacks have to do, right,
but one of the main things that you need to do,
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whether you're bought there to set up try and score them,
is have a good kicking game and make your tackles.
Like it's so simple. Just because you're half back doesn't
mean you don't have to push away the other parts
of the game. And he's got a decent kicking game,
he's a bigger body, but make sure you do that
first and then start creating space. Like obviously it's difficult
because Dylan Brown's there as well, but you know it's
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a bit about the same thing, like, just do the fundamentals. Well,
but the question is that is that going to win
you the game on the weekend? Maybe not, might win
you the game in a couple weeks if you get
better at it. But yeah, they've got interesting little period
coming up to the eels.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And keep you want to do a bit of a
dally M thing?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
What do you got thing for three rounds? Give me
your top three? Who do you think come Dallym Night
is going to be?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well? Okay?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Three so far this season? My three best players in
the first three rounds. Paine Hass it's a no brainer. Second,
miss player, I've got two or may. I think he's
been a revelation for the Tigers. He's proven to be
some sort of signing. And number three. There's a number
of players like Munster and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I've gone Kaylen Ponger.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Wasn't it his best on the weekend, but he's first
to his first two rounds performers were pretty special.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I got I got a four. Is going to win
the de.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, I think I think at the end of the
my initial pick was Fanilla Blake my reason. Yeah, yeah, man,
he just keeps getting better, Yeah, doesn't he?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You know how old would Isaiah be now.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
He's got three in front of him.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Three? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Because the thing about it is, I'm trying to get
the right term here. You don't get more stupid. Is
that the right way to say That's a stupid way
to say it. You know, maybe it's perfect, but you
don't you don't lose your intelligence as you get older
in football, the thing that disappears is your athleticism, you know,
and that's and for Isaiah, he's watching the way he plays.
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He's getting smarter and smarter the way he uses his
players as far as direction is concerned, and crucially, he
hasn't a lot lost, hasn't lost a first step speed
oring like that.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
When you look at who's going to win the Deli
and we think a team are going to win a
lot more than they lose, and those Harry Grant's crucial.
I think there's an opportunity for Harry Grant to really
dominate because most people talk about Jerome Hues and Monster
and now that Nelson and Stefano were there a good
little one two punch for Rock Chaos, Parry Grant might
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be very influential this year. And Isaiah just touches the
ball more than any other thirteen in the game. And
Nathan's health is question at different stages, but he is
rock solid and I think pei win a lot of games.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
This year, Coops, just I should have said you don't
lose your intelligence rather than you don't come more stupid,
stupid thing to say.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's a stupid thing to say from mischief.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
We'll just cut it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I'll tell Scott you just cut that out and replace it.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Just keep it in there.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We'll do. This is the magic you television. Just cut it,
just go. I'll tell you what, Coops, Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
One thing, as you get older, you don't lose your intelligence.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Can you say most stupid? Mm hmmmmmm
Some sides of the moment I think are benefiting greatly
from doing less.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I don't know if doing less is the right term,
but put it this way, less long winded, structured said pieces.
Less sideways like.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
What's required at the moment, as opposed to just playing
this elaborate player.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
As opposed to go and let's take three to the
far post.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Four, it's more like go forward, go forward, and then
reacting off that.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Tiger is the best example, and we spoke about them
last week.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
They started the game coops that every time they got
a little bit of momentum.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
They just go sideways.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
They pushed the ball at the edge, they get excited
and try to create through width. As the game started
to go on there you can see them now starting
to actually find their style more doing.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Less, keeping the ball through the middle.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
When toroll May goes forward and creates a momentum, hey
take another one.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
It's going to make us more dangerous.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Let's have a look at some of this what I'm
talking about here on the game of the weekend, and
you see Leui just keeping the ball double drop under,
keep things nice and tight in the middle.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
His may, he's just been enormous. He goes forward.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Let's not go sideways yet, yeah, bird, he goes forward,
and then the silver scoop goes over and scores and
you look very very basically.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Basic, but it works for him.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
It's scored points afterwards, just in a simple form like
there's two ways you either make meters and score points.
One you ford momentum to shift, or you shift to
create space, and then the forward momentum. But at some
stage you have to take advantage of what you've created with.
It's a fast ruck, and you know, to the Tiger's
point that is it's basically three hit ups for a
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crash over from whalf That's what it looks like. But
it's death by a thousand cuts. Ford momentum, quicker play
the ball, forward momentum. Quicker play the ball, and then
all of a sudden, the silver first person to make
a decision, realizes that he's got the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
And I think the sides, and I think that what
it feeds into there is that the sides who are
doing less keeping the ball more through the center field,
because let's face it, with the fast rucks in twenty
twenty five, the defensive vulnerability is in around that middle.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And you can do a decoy play like not that
close to the line, but say that's in around midfield,
three runs targeting a big, slow middle forward and then
have your footwork come back through the middle. For example,
Lewis could turn a pass back inside for during buller.
You take advantage of guys have made three tackles in
a row twenty minutes at the end of their stint.
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So there's another way where you sort of target someone
look like you're going away, but you can come back
through that middle.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
There's some really crucial combinations starting to form with the Tigers.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
The one two dummy half.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Punch of Da Silver and Appy Corus, how.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Has been enormous.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Da Silver has been fantastic, But the other one, the
really big one.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Leui and Galvin.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
On the weekend they took another step towards I think
you're starting to really find their football together and it
was a try.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
If you have a look at.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Operating in tandem and the fact that Galvin takes them
on here right and you watch the numbers that gathers,
this is how seven and six should play. Lewis recognizes where.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
The ball needs to go.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
The line has been shortened right up I know where
it's got.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
To get to, and that's seven and six.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Wilson operating as a combination in the same play, still
operating as a combination.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
The unspoken part about that, Yes, Galvin running and getting
the ball to the threat in the vulnerable area, but
the combination of Happy Chorus and Leui, that ability to
move the other side of the ruck but then still
pass back is not easy to do. That is because
they spent time penrith That is repetition at training, and
that is the reason why that happened. The ability for
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Leui to recognize their short on the one side, but
then to be on the same page. How many times
do we see that and a ball hits a deck
or a dummy half turns around and just ends up
running the ball because he can't get the pass to
his half back. So, yes, good play, but I reckon
the understand of Corus how they're tremendous.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You didn't talk about sharks in a second before we do.
Dolphins gone through a difficult period. But Isaiah katoa beautiful
little sequence on the weekend. If we just have a
look at this, coops and starts with the inside ball
like these are like a mirror play because he goes
inside on that little strain ball that's yu Blake's used
to call it. So he creates the dent, mate Marshall.
Marshall key picks up, makes twenty meters. Now watch this
(04:19):
because first he's on that inside strain ball again, look
a tiny little glance book out for the tunnel ball.
Just that little deception he just set, tiny little look in.
They just squeezed in the dolphins and made him vulnerable top.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
End half back player. That's got rep play written all
over it. That is not something you just think of.
That's something that you react to and practice over and over.
And the pass to throw the long ball the farm worth, yeah,
that is very difficult to do. Like the inside look
you know, condensed defenders and then throw a rocket pill
through the full back hit the.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Center like Isaiah is he twenty one?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, early twenties, mate, And like that team is struggling
at the moment, but that kid has a big future.
Like he just glimpses of what his half back player
has been over his start to his career. Like you
could cut it up and say like that is that's
a kid older than what.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
He's been doing age, Yeah, he's producing pretty good players.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Queensland I think, yeah, yeah, the half back play great
way from cart but the Sharks, Maddie I thought. Craig
Fitzgibbon summed up what Trindle and Hines are after the
game tremendously well. There is a lot of noise around
Nico rightly wrongly. I don't particularly care. But if you've
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got halves that have a team first mentality, a selfless
approach to the game, I'd take that halves pairing over
someone that wants to be dominant main man, wants to
win a deli and all those things. Because we've spoken
about this a thousand times when you and your brother
were playing, when I was playing with some different halves,
when one half is on the other one sits back
(06:04):
and says, you know what you go And then when
he's a little bit off and out one other one,
the other half steps up and takes control of the play.
What Trindle and Heines are doing right now that they
sit probably below the Peneriths Melbourne and Brisbane in terms
of recognition, but they're humming along beautifully underneath. And if
that halve's pairing can continue to do that, like Trindle
(06:26):
kicks two forty twenties. Nico Heines goes, all right, I'm
going to step back a bit here, let Trindle go.
But then when the game's there, hind season opportunity goes, no,
give me the ball. I'm on, and then Trindle steps back.
That is a good operation because I remember when I
got to the Roosters. We struggled in twenty eighteen, and
I spent majority of my career sort of attacking a
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three ind defender with the Bakraa and Billy Slater around.
Tried to get that same look at the Roosters, but
realized Kiri Tedesco they run east west quicker than most
players we had in the competition. I had to change.
I had to become a sort of a condensing of
the few middle defenders to create space for these guys
to play it off way more laterally, so my attacking
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didn't actually end up on the edges. It became more
in the middle of the rock, creating space vi Kiri
and Tedesco to do it. So I really liked that
mindset what Trindle and Heindes are doing, right.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
I really like about the Sharks, and it took me
back to the really early days of the Melbourne Storm
eight ninety nine was at times it was almost like
a five man kick return, like with the Melbourne Storm
and those like ninety nine. You knocked the ball down
field and the centers would turn and their centers would
turn an end just sprint back and join a five
(07:40):
better return. I remember saying to Robbie Ross one two
was a fullback in the side, like, how do they
do that? And he goes, you know, like as far
as fitness and keep it up, he goes, yeah, they've
just got him at he that's what.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
He tells him to do.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And I thought the way they combined there was they
really worked well as a combination on kick returns. Some
of the beauties like Row and Maltalo did a couple
of crackers on kick returns.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
To explain why teams are getting plays back behind the
ball and kick chase is if the opposition kicks a
ball down and puts eleven players in the defensive line,
the poor old fullback is just running back against eleven players.
So the more you can get behind the footy, I
the wingers in the centers to put sort of doubt
in that defensive mind. And they did a number of times.
The Sharks of the weekend, their ability to sort of
(08:25):
isolate one on one users spoon acceleration. Yeah, very good,
very good.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
The only thing about the Sharks I've got coops is
I still want to see more killer about them. Like
on the weekend there was an opportunity for them to
really drive it home and the second half like that.
You can't boat the top teams. You can't win a
competition playing forty minute football. Hassen Carrigan Broncos. I haven't
seen a better yardish combination. Has is just he is
(08:54):
having a phenomenal start of the season. In some ways,
it's save as shadow the fact that I think Pat
Carry is playing the best football of his career.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
But that you know, if you talk it like it's funny.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I was watching Has and what's become a trend in
the game, becurse of the speed and the rucks through
the middle is the small thirteen. Yeah, who's built like
a brick Shitthouse, low center of gravity, got good foot
spured and good footwork. In a lot of ways, pain
Has is that player, Like he has all those attributes.
He's got a big center of balance, he's fast, he's
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got good footwork. The only difference he is his one
hundred and twenty kilos. He is just devastating at the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Yeah, Like the Broncos have the perfect ingredients like powerful
forward pack, smart halves, athletic outside backs and when Paynehass
and Carrigan put it together. I'd love to be Onnam
Reynolds of Benhart because you're going to create momentum. And
we just spoke about with the Tigers. You could shift
to the to the outside, or you could play straight
(09:57):
back through the middle with Reese Walsh.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Like you can actually you can sit there.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
They are a guarantee, right, guarantee go forward, so you
could sit there.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
You know we're working with the combination.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
You say, listen, coops, after this play, we're going to
put this on because you know you're going to have momentum.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, free Like Adam Reynolds could get really tricky with it,
like he could say Rono Carrigan and has just drive
two tackles around. I'd put re Swash out on the
far left hand side and as pain House starts carrying
the football, send Resquash all the way out the outside
back to my inside and look like you're going to
throw the ball out of the centers and just step
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back in straight through the the middle. Forwards that have
to have back to back tackles on one Carrigan then
painhasse and then if you throw a dummy like you
go into the outside, they're going to clip. You go
to sleep for half a second through that middle. I'm
straight back through.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Let's have some of the great artish combinations over the years,
personally contemporary one Brian Totter and Dylan Edwards. Yeah hard
when they go on one and two, and then at
the back end of those sets you've got Fisher, Harris
and Liota over the last four or five years. Go
back in time, a great one two punch used to
be Bradley Clyde Glenn Lazarus. Clyde would actually get back
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behind the ball and take play twos and then you'd
have Laso later on in the set. Sarah and Blocker
were great, like Siro was just you know, this huge
man at the time, biggest guy in the league at
the time. He'd take the yards, play quick and then
Blocker would get on the right and Blocker had beautiful
soft hands and skill awareness.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
A lot of Benny lies off the back of that too, right.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, the two you know you speak to people almost
of the half, the playmakers, the half and five a
for Balmain in those days was Blocker and Benny and
then mate, you've got and you look at it down
back in the day when you know, to see how
Sydney boys were flying, they win competitions. If you got
the three Burgess boys, you got George, Tom and Sam.
Like you have a look at that Grand Final, Sam
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and George working this combination. I usually thought George should
have got the Clyde Churchill medal, but that's for another day.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
The only other sort of team that could match what
Edwards and Fisher Harrison Liota in time would be the
Broncos Lottie Takiri, Wendel sailor and put on the top
of that web ce Simla Seba. Yes, but that is
pure domination through the yardage game. Most games you play
and you talk about, you know, the Broncos set it up.
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One of the tactics I found very interesting from the Cowboys,
and part of the reason why they're three losses in
the row is their detail and ability to want to
defend and their fifth played defense, particularly Drinkwater on Adam
Reynolds and Ben Hunt. There was vision there. Ben Hunt
gets this kick right, It should have been perfect in
(12:40):
a triscoring situation, Drinkwater is out of position when you're
going into a game doing movements like this, sees bodies turned.
This is play three off a set tap. Adam Reynolds
has coordinated this to know that drink Water is not
paying attention. And if Ben Hunt gets this kick right,
it's try time. Drinkwater turned back. Eight is a space
(13:02):
and he goes for the kick. Here drink Water is
clocking off when he has to work, and it's hurting
the Cowboys at the moment. And there was another time
a little bit later with Adam Reynolds just straight through
drink Water here today. If there's one thing that Adam
Reynolds gets right when the fullbacks in the line is
the early kick. Drink Water missed that kick by a meter.
It's because he didn't work early enough and fast enough
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early on. So I think there's a couple of things
going wrong with the Cowboys at the moment. But if
you're going to play against Adam Reynolds, one thing you
must do as a fullback is you've got to be
on in fifth player. He picked him apart.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
On the weekend, he's kicking as beautiful on the weekend.
He's one of those players. Dally chi Evens is another one.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
He did it again against the Raiders weeks well.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
He gets like those two blokes.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
I see them sometimes wander the line, particularly Daly, and
he goes it almost puts them. They put himself sometimes
in a culder sack, but they still find the right kick.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
It's ruthless, it's relentless. But with your kicking game as
a halfback, if the open position have a chink in
the armor and they show you a queue to it
early on, you just keep going back to it daily.
Jerry Evans did it against the Raiders. Big kick, last play,
footsteps down, drop ball, except big kick, footsteps that. It
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just kept coming. It's very effective. And when you come
up against a smart halfback and you spill the ball
or you're out of position, you better fix it quickly
otherwise are going to keep coming.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Cowboys were a lot better, a lot better. But yes,
oh and three yeah manly before we talked about the
dogs and par and a straight talk made manly.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
It was very a very manly performance. Again, back home
put Raiders to the sword.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Yep. So for twenty the first twenty minutes they had
an ample amount of possession and struggle to score points.
Then the sinbin happened and they just turn it on.
When Manly get hot. They are white hot compared to
some teams. Terry Evans outstanding, Ola Clartu intimidatingly scary. But
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again I think the Perseca injury is a big thing
for me only Yeah, I did too, Like they have
the best attack in the comp when they put it together.
But if they want to beat Brisbane, they're going to
need a big forward pack to stop carrygan at Haas
they want to beat Melbourne, they're going to need someone
to stop Nelson and utah Wa Kamano and losing Prosecca
is going to go a long way to hurting that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Just from that you just said about Nelson dispartment memory
and then I too.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Really impressed me the other night was Jack Cole.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, what really impressed me.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
About him was how he was able to on the
run almost correct his game when Nathan went off the field.
You could see he was trying to play the Nathan role.
Some of the sequences while he was getting a cross
field dum mean and yeah, those players that those little
shows that Nathan do that look very simple and basically
you see when Jack did it, he just wasn't comfortable
(15:57):
and wasn't threatening. And then you know, about ten to fifteen,
it's in. You can see him just go no, no, no,
I'm going to go back.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And play the way that I play. And when you.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Consider coops, you know it's fourteen nil. When Nathan leaves
the field, he has to take control.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Of the of the team.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
He and Isaiah, Oh, Isaiahah was enormous again, but also
Blaze come on, Blaze to Langy. It come on at six.
So it's not like he had a six alongside him
who could help with the organization. You know, he was
him and Isaiah that they were having to control all things.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Isaiah was the coming six, if you want to put
it that way. Like his touches went through the roof
his organization, just through when he decided to pass, run
and play out the back. But I really like what
Cole did, Like this was probably an opportunity where he
could have got stage fright and gone, oh my Maine
man's out, but he simplified it he ran the football,
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he got involved and he actually showed some signs that
you know what, actually this kid might have something at
the back end.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Jenkins full back.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Yeah yeah, And you know this is what we spoke
about this last week. This young you know, the young
Penrith side went to Manly against a strong Manly side
in the trials, had four points park and put him
to the sword.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
It's the strength of the system.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
And it's also like to win a competition, you need
to have a good club, not just good players in
your seventeen a good club club. I've done it four
years and it doesn't look like it's going to stop
any time. Man, they like with Nathan going off and
everything that happening, like Melbourne were looking good, like they
could have easily ran away with that. But somehow, whether
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it was Melbourne taking a foot off or actually Penis
wrestling a little bit back, you can't do anything but
tip your cap to what Penith?
Speaker 1 (17:40):
What did the other MEAs how filthy Bellyac would have
been afterwards, because for him it would have been an
opportunity to strike a psychological blow. But now it's actually
I think probably the other way, I'd say Ivan would
have went away and go, Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
This is this sort of competition between these two this right, Valry,
it's going to be around for a bit and particularly
this year they're going to play again and again again.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Talking about Rovalry beauty from the eighties and mate, I
love this game yesterday, Dogs versus Power.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
I just I really enjoyable better Power were better. Power
were better, a lot better.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Zachlomax, what thirty two carries in football? Still a few
defensive things is renowned for me.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
And thirty carries in the season, that's pretty impressive.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Brief yourself. But I thought that.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
They got the momentum they got in that second half,
they could smell that they could get a win. But
like a lot of people have gone with the Bulldogs
gone oh, it was pretty good informced by Bulldogs. I
think totally the opposite. You go into games sometimes coops,
and you have to win ugly or you have to
you've got to find a way to win when the
opposition is dictate, dictating the terms of the contest.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And we've all been.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
In those games where you're going to halftime, you're feeling
quite comfortable. For whatever reason, you come out in the
second half the energy goes out of football and vice versa.
The opposition climb and start going through the roof. And
particularly yesterday, Paramount sense they could pull off an upset.
And you know, when you've been around the game for
a while, you get a gut fill. And I'm watching
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the game yesterday going Paramo going to piece this for
all their effort, but the dogs won. The dogs hanging there,
they defended their asses off and they got the win.
That's the difference between the top four years and missing out.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And I think Sireldo would have liked the way that
his team put the overalls on and one ugly to
put it simple, what do you make of Brown?
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I'm going through a mind gown at the moment, A
lot's been set about Dylan.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
A lot has been set.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
We talk about it is because of that contract. Right,
if this contract's not around, he probably doesn't get the airtime.
But it's relevant, Coops.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
There is no doubt people predicted when he's sign the contract.
It comes with a degree of pressure, and we are
seeing that outside expectation is one of the most difficult
things to deal with. And I'm looking at Dylan at
the moment. My advice to Dylan would be this is
that Just just play, Just play Dylan Brown football, get
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back to Berne. Just be a run of the football.
Don't actually start to think, you know, or start to
try to play the football that you think Newcastle need
from you twelve months down the track. You know, don't
worry about trying to finesse, don't worry about trying to
push the side around the park. You just go out
and play to your strengths. You know, at the end
of the day, I can see that's just weighing on him.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Coops.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
How would you unlock that?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Well, Coops, how I would unlock it?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
You can't do that at the moment because of the
fact there's no Mitchell Moses and you can't. It's very
hard to move a Dylan Brown out of the halves
because they're short on halves.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Even though I thought Dean Hawkins was good on the weekend.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Is that if I'm Jason Rowles, I'm thinking about moving
moving him into thirteen just to then neck tie him
to how he should play, you know, because I just
think at the moment, I think at the moment, with
all the expectation and the pressure, I don't think I
think playing in the halves is weighing.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Heavily on him.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
I think going back to playing eight, Dylan, you're playing thirteen.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Just get it there, run the football mate, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
And at the end of the day, Dylan's got to
consider this is that the Knights signed Dylan Brown, Right,
you just play Dylan Brown football. If later next year,
whatever happens, whatever they need from you next year, or
whatever they want to work you into, that's up to
the nights. But at this point, just going back to
play Dylan Brown football.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Yeah, I think that's an out for Roles to move
him to thirteen and say, simplify the way around the
outside noise. He needs his best players playing their best football.
There's a team that's under immense pressure and he can
put it together. Go watch some highlights of when you're great, like,
get some mojo back in your play. The interesting part
(22:02):
for me is what does Roles and the Eels do
if they're two and six, are thre eight weeks or worse,
no wins? Do they think about next year? Dylan Brown's
not in there next year, how.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Do you do that?
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's interesting. I thought about that when he signed. I thought,
if this season goes continues to get bad for Paramount
and you get two thirds of the way through the season, you.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Say, well, it's what do they do? Do? They decide
to experiment?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
This is Mitch's team. Bring Mitch comes back hopefully sometime soon,
and you start working with those combinations are going to
help you be a better team in twenty twenty six.
Yeah you like doing hooks, Yeah, like you just work around.
There's certain things that some halfbacks have to do, right,
but one of the main things that you need to do,
(22:53):
whether you're bought there to set up try and score them,
is have a good kicking game and make your tackles.
Like it's so simple. Just because you're half back doesn't
mean you don't have to push away the other parts
of the game. And he's got a decent kicking game,
he's a bigger body, but make sure you do that
first and then start creating space. Like obviously it's difficult
because Dylan Brown's there as well, but you know it's
(23:16):
a bit about the same thing, like, just do the fundamentals. Well,
but the question is that is that going to win
you the game on the weekend? Maybe not, might win
you the game in a couple weeks if you get
better at it. But yeah, they've got interesting little period
coming up to the eels.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
And keep you want to do a bit of a
dally M thing?
Speaker 3 (23:31):
What do you got thing for three rounds? Give me
your top three? Who do you think come Dallym Night
is going to be?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Well? Okay?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Three so far this season? My three best players in
the first three rounds. Paine Hass it's a no brainer. Second,
miss player, I've got two or may. I think he's
been a revelation for the Tigers. He's proven to be
some sort of signing. And number three. There's a number
of players like Munster and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I've gone Kaylen Ponger.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Wasn't it his best on the weekend, but he's first
to his first two rounds performers were pretty special.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
I got I got a four. Is going to win
the de.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, I think I think at the end of the
my initial pick was Fanilla Blake my reason. Yeah, yeah, man,
he just keeps getting better, Yeah, doesn't he?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
You know how old would Isaiah be now.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
He's got three in front of him.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Three? Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Because the thing about it is, I'm trying to get
the right term here. You don't get more stupid. Is
that the right way to say That's a stupid way
to say it. You know, maybe it's perfect, but you
don't you don't lose your intelligence as you get older
in football, the thing that disappears is your athleticism, you know,
and that's and for Isaiah, he's watching the way he plays.
(24:51):
He's getting smarter and smarter the way he uses his
players as far as direction is concerned, and crucially, he
hasn't a lot lost, hasn't lost a first step speed
oring like that.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
When you look at who's going to win the Deli
and we think a team are going to win a
lot more than they lose, and those Harry Grant's crucial.
I think there's an opportunity for Harry Grant to really
dominate because most people talk about Jerome Hues and Monster
and now that Nelson and Stefano were there a good
little one two punch for Rock Chaos, Parry Grant might
(25:22):
be very influential this year. And Isaiah just touches the
ball more than any other thirteen in the game. And
Nathan's health is question at different stages, but he is
rock solid and I think pei win a lot of games.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
This year, Coops, just I should have said you don't
lose your intelligence rather than you don't come more stupid,
stupid thing to say.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's a stupid thing to say from mischief.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
We'll just cut it.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
I'll tell Scott you just cut that out and replace it.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Just keep it in there.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
We'll do. This is the magic you television. Just cut it,
just go. I'll tell you what, Coops, Isaiah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
One thing, as you get older, you don't lose your intelligence.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Can you say most stupid? Mm hmmmmmm
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