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April 11, 2025 50 mins

Kamran Abbasi interviews Professor Ashish Jha, Dean of Public Health at Brown University and former COVID-19 pandemic advisor to President Biden.

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Trump’s second term has touched everything in the US political sphere - and health is no exception. With research funding for medicine and science weathering under Trump’s storm of cuts, how can Americans who care about public health and data navigate a course through the swells?

Professor Jha discusses how to resist an anti-vaccine resurgence, and comments on revisionist narratives that drive ill-conceived public health policies.

 

  • 02:20 The MAHA movement and RFK Jnr.
  • 07:40 Does evidence still matter?
  • 13:35 Trump administration is helping China
  • 15:10 Policymaking in Trump’s shadow
  • 23:35 Where do universities go from here?
  • 28:48 Censorship, research funding and academic freedom
  • 33:35 Health inequalities within America
  • 36:20 A resurgent anti-vax message
  • 41:24 What Ashish’s got wrong about the pandemic response
  • 45:31 When is enough for research data?
  • 47:14 Future hope and how to pushback in smart ways

 

Reading list:

Professor Jha’s December 2024 editorial on the Trump admin’s plans for American healthcare coverage 

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