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Mark Smith (00:06):
Welcome to the MVP
show.
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guests and are inspired tobecome an MVP and bring value to
the world through your skills.
If you have not checked it outalready, I do a YouTube series
called how to Become an MVP.
The link is in the show notes.
With that, let's get on withthe show.
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Today's guest is all the wayfrom India.
He works at EY as a technicallead.
He was first awarded as MVP in2024.
His expertise spans Power Apps,power Automate and Dataverse,
leveraging Azure services todeliver holistic solutions to
his customers.
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You can find links to his bioand social media in the show
notes for this episode.
Welcome to the show, prashant.
Prashant Chaudhary (00:57):
Thanks for
that good introduction to Mark
Smith for me, like even Ihaven't prepared that much a
long discussion about myself, sothanks for that.
Mark Smith (01:09):
So hey, everyone
awesome, tell me, tell me
Prashant food, family and fun.
What do they mean to you?
Prashant Chaudhary (01:16):
okay.
So whenever we talk about thisfood, family and fun, I would
say when we are not doing anywork, so what we can do at that
time, so obviously I'll go forthe fun.
Like what I generally do islike I like this web series,
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like that we that is availableon the netflix and all, and I
personally like crime andthrillers because, yeah, because
I belongs to the backbenchersfamily of from the school.
Okay, so that's how I invest orI waste my time.
Food, yeah, food is like ifsomeone has prepared something
for good for me, I can take iteasily, but it's not like I want
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to prepare this for myself yeah, but do you have a favorite?
Mark Smith (02:03):
what's?
What's your favorite dish?
Prashant Chaudhary (02:05):
my favorite
dish is a milk cake.
Uh, it's a sweet.
That is available in india andit's not that costly, but yes,
little bit nice.
Mark Smith (02:15):
So if I came and
visited you would be going and
having milk cake.
Sure, nice sounds good, soundsgood, maybe this year, maybe
this year.
Prashant Chaudhary (02:26):
Um, tell me
about your family okay, so, uh,
I currently live with my family.
My family has a people thatbelongs to multiple professions.
Okay, like my father is agraphic designer, my mom is a
housewife, who take care of thehome.
Obviously my mom, my sister is,belongs to the medical, like
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she's a government nurse, mybrother is a planner and I
belongs to this it industry.
So it's like everyone belongsto different, different domain
and then when, whenever theyjust sit together, it's like
it's hard to just talk on asingle topic.
Yeah, I bet that's excitingbecause everyone has a different
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, different interest anddifferent, different areas to
work and different type ofknowledge that they are having.
So, yeah, I like it.
Mark Smith (03:16):
That's the
background tell me, tell me
about, uh.
Why did you know, with such adiverse choice of careers that
was happening in your family andyour father being a graphic
designer, what made you decidethat, uh, it was going to be
where you built your career?
Prashant Chaudhary (03:36):
okay, see,
uh, when I was in my 12th,
standards okay.
So I used to do the programmingin in the computer language.
Okay.
Later, uh, since my unclebelongs to the automation
industry like automation peoplewho are doing the programming
for the microcontrollers okay,so they wanted me to go to the
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automation industry.
So I did my uh graduation fromthat domain automation.
When I was working in thatautomation, one of the manager
noticed me and he said you likeprogramming?
I said yes.
He said okay, you are notinterested in in assembling of
it.
I said it's not like that.
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But yes, if you ask me, likewhat is my priority or what is
my top preference, then I wouldbe doing the programming.
Then he said prashant, thenyour career would be like, if
you go to the it, there you willfind your type of people.
And also, like in my 12, like Iused to deliver lectures to my
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tuition peoples, like I wasliving some tuitions for some,
some kids, so I used to trainthem in programming at that time
.
So that's how I decided okay,let's try to give interview to
some IT industry and see if Iwould be selected or not.
If I would be selected, then Iwould go for the IT industry,
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otherwise I will continue myautomation.
When I went, when I go to thisit industry for my interview out
of around 22 people were thereand the person who was taking
that interview he just gave mesome sort of a logic that needs
to be implemented, okay, and heasked me okay, prashant, that
you don't belongs to the it,that you haven't done your
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graduation from any programminglanguage, but if you tell me the
logic how you can build thattype of a system, I will hire
you.
That's how he just took myinterview.
So I said, okay, but I knowthat programming.
So I wrote a program and itworked accidentally and, yes, I
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was selected out of 22candidates.
So then I just decided, okay,now I might play a better role
in IT as compared to automation.
So, yeah, that's how I movedinto this industry.
Mark Smith (05:58):
How many years have
you been now working with the
Power Platform?
Prashant Chaudhar (06:06):
no-transcript
.
I was enrolled as a Dynamicspeople.
Okay, and if you remember thisPower Platform, like, I
categorize this Power Platformas a child of Dynamics CRM okay,
because many concepts, whateveryou are utilizing in Power
Platform maximum, are comingfrom the Dynamics itself.
Okay, although Dynamics is avast field to explore if you
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have time or if I have time.
So, like, I started withdynamics and at the time, like
PowerApp was just growing, likeit was in the starting of 2019,
like PowerApp coming to themarket in 2016.
So it took three years to justsettle.
And in 2019, we were havingsome demand.
Okay, so that's how I startedin 2019.
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Were having some demand?
Okay, so that's how I start in2019.
And then, yes, it's around 2025.
So you can assume five to sixyears that I've invested here
that's cool.
Mark Smith (07:01):
That's cool out of
all the tools in the power
platform uh, which is yourfavorite, as in power apps,
automate pages, power effects,dataverse, uh co-pilot studio,
my preference.
Prashant Chaudhary (07:19):
Like then I
would say power automate would
be my, my top choice.
Because the thing is like, if Iuh, it's not just like
delivering something, it's, it'sabout what value it is giving
to the customers.
Okay, I'm not saying like thesomething, it's about what value
it is giving to the customers.
Okay, I'm not saying like theother components are delivering
less values, it's not like that.
The thing is like, whenever weare talking about the automation
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since I was coming from theautomation, so I might be a
little inclined towards theautomation, okay.
So when I found, okay, likemany days, we are doing some
repetitions of work, okay, so,okay, like mind is we are doing
some repetitions of work, okay,so why can't we just deliver an
automation that can do that work, although, like the power app,
a low code platform throughwhich you can deliver some sort
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of a user interface for yourclient, that is also a important
pillar of this power platform.
But personally, I feel powerautomate is my choice
interesting.
Mark Smith (08:14):
That's cool.
I mean, everyone has the onethat they excel in right and
power automate is is one ofthose rock solid tools out there
.
Are you doing any roboticprocess automation rpa?
Are you using uh, powerautomate rpa?
Have you done anything with thedesktop flows?
Prashant Chaudhary (08:30):
Yeah, like
we were asked to do some sort of
a desktop automation.
So, yes, we delivered a projectin that area.
So desktop automation is likewhere you would need a machine
where things would work andcloud is something that it would
run on the cloud side, right?
So if you are asking anyexample, then if I give you the
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interesting example that I didfor the desktop automation.
It's like a company isuploading their data on the
Dynamics AX.
Before this financial operation,people used to use this
Dynamics AX to upload theirfinance data, to upload their
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finance data.
So we were fetching that dataand they have given us some sort
of a template, some sort ofexcel template that is a compact
form of their finance.
Okay, so we were downloadingsome reports from the ax,
pasting it to the excel and thenpreparing a single, single line
of a summary from it.
Okay, so there we have usedthis desktop automation.
It's like downloading, pastingsome excel, running some,
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running some, some some sort ofmacros on the excel so that it
would it would prepare a singleline of a summary of whole, of
whole financial data.
Okay, and then sending emailsto the owners of the
stakeholders.
So that's sort of a thing thatwe did who's had the biggest
influence on your career?
influence.
Okay, I would say the person towho has interviewed me into the
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it industry ah.
Mark Smith (10:06):
So do you still work
with them?
Are they still a friend, or dothey guide you, do they mentor
you?
Prashant Chaudhary (10:11):
okay, the
thing is like he was the owner
of our organization.
Okay, and since thatorganization was a startup, so
you can understand that in everystartup, you always have the
budget issues.
Okay, yes, so I used to.
I used to go with him for everysort of action that, whatever
is going on in any organization,whether that belongs to
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delivery, whether that belongsto operations, whether that
belongs to marketing sales, atevery other place I was, I was
with him.
So he used to train me likeit's not, like there's a two
type of fishes one fish thatlive in a small pond and the
fish is big, and another one islike a big ocean, but this fish
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is small.
So how you want your career tobe, whether you want a face in a
small sea or you want a bigfish in a small pond.
So that's how, like he said, wedon't get every time all the
resources or all the things thatwe need, but it's on us how we
are going to manipulate ourthings in order to achieve what
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we actually need.
Like he too was a good softwareor developer, but within two or
three years, he decided to starthis own business in that area
and later he just shifted hisbusiness.
Okay, like, after some years hehe got bored from this IT
industry so he decided to movehis business into the food
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industry and later he moved tothe real estate.
So that's how I was like aperson should not be limited to
one area.
Okay, he should be coveringthings from multiple places.
Okay, what other people aredoing?
How they are doing what we cando in order to contribute in
that in their domains?
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Okay, so, yeah, I liked hismindset and that's how I started
my journey, like, okay, Ishould not be just doing the
office work, I should be doingsomething for the communities.
Okay, yeah, so that's how, like, he just impressed me and he
just gave me that mindset to gowith this path.
Mark Smith (12:20):
So how did you end
up at ey?
Prashant Chaudhary (12:23):
okay, see,
um, when I was in that startup,
um, I served to so many mncslike, like, okay, like some
Infosys, pwc and many others,okay, and some small corporates
too.
Later I found like I should nowlike I invested there around
three and three, three plusthree plus years there, only
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Okay.
Later I decided, okay, I knowhow this startup actually works.
But that would not besufficient.
I should know how the bigcorporates work.
So I decided, okay, now let'stry my career in some other MNC.
So I thought, okay, I can justtry in Essentia, I can try in
TCS, many more.
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So I decided, okay, let's tryto take a jump.
That would be good.
So I decided, okay, let's moveto the big four.
Like you know, like this EYbelongs to big four Of the world
, right?
So that's how I I even I I waswhen I was delivering some work
into the communities I got aperson like I can't just tell
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the name of that person here.
Like, I helped her.
Like I used to help peoplewhenever they just struck into
the implementation of PowerPlatform.
I was open for everyone throughmy social medias, like, if you
get struck, you can just ping me.
If I get some time I willdefinitely help you out.
So I helped a person through myLinkedIn and she asked me
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Prashant, if you want to exploreyour career in EY, please let
me know.
I said, okay, let's try then.
So that's how I come to this EY.
Mark Smith (14:02):
Okay, so without
saying her name, what was the
question that she had?
Prashant Chaudhary (14:06):
that you
solved okay, uh, if I remember
like it was in the 2022somewhere around april.
Okay, uh, she needed to buildsome sort of a filtration
process in the, in a grid thatwe can add inside our power app,
and some sort of automationthat she wanted to implement for
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her client, and she wasconfused whether that
implementation would be reliableor not.
So I said, okay, I provided hertwo different types of
approaches to implement hisscenario and both were reliable.
So I gave her the chance okay,you can just proceed with any
one of them and it would be good.
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So that's how I started.
She was my friend and then weused to talk and I used to solve
her queries not on a regularbasis, but, yeah, like once a
month or maybe twice a month andthen, after some months, I
moved to EY.
She belongs to EY already.
Mark Smith (15:11):
Now, when you look
at 2025, what's your big goals
for this year?
Prashant Chaudhary (15:18):
Okay, nice
question, if I understand this
last year when I was awarded forthis mvp.
Okay, so I got to know thatthis mvp is not just a reward
that you got.
It's about more type of aresponsibility that you will get
and people would expect youthat you would continue your,
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your, your delivery in additionto the community helps.
Okay.
So I decided, okay, I will bestart doing some sort of uh,
communities entertainments, notjust entertainment, like right
now I just provide supportthrough some online medium, but
people just ask me like, whycan't you just come to some
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events and deliver some lecturesor deliver some trainings?
I do that trainings, but in inmy internal e-y.
Okay, so, yeah, that's my goalfor 2025, that I should start
focusing to go to events as aspeaker.
Like, yeah, so that's my goal?
Mark Smith (16:23):
are you speaking
engagements?
Are you just just restrictingyour focus on India, or are you
going to go abroad?
Prashant Chaudhary (16:30):
Based on the
chance that I got, I'll look
into that.
Obviously, if you get a chanceto just talk globally or just to
move out of EY and then deliverthat lecture, that would be
also good because that's how youwould increase your network and
network has a different, a keyfor your career.
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I would say, like network is akey in your career.
Mark Smith (16:55):
Prashant, I've
really enjoyed having a chat
with you today.
Thank you for coming on theshow.
Prashant Chaudhary (16:59):
Thanks same
to you, mark.
I really, really wanted to justtalk to you because I used to
listen to your podcast.
Some years back, like in 2021or 22.
I I heard your, your feedbackbecause, like in 2019 and not 19
2020 I I was in a in a in apodcast where I was doing some
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comparison between the modelingand the canvas.
Okay, because that time we werehaving so much difference
between these two apps.
Okay, so the person thatbelongs to some other country
were there in the podcast and wewere doing that, and after that
, like around three or fouryears later, I'm coming back to
another podcast now.
Mark Smith (17:51):
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